Thank you. I have a 2032R. Love it. Very nimble, powerful. Well engineered. Meets all my needs. Need a ballast on the rear for heavy front end loader. Perfect Tractor for me.
Glad you responded TTWT. Great content. I’m torn between a 1025r or 2 series. I’m going to be cutting and moving lots of down trees 🌲 on our Colorado property. Any suggestions? Thanks
@@lovinlivinrvin7261 Hello! Did you get your tractor yet? Since no one responded to you, I would pick the 1025R for tight spaces and the 2032R for more power and wide open spaces.
@@lovinlivinrvin7261 , Another YT channel considers the 2025 a "series 1.5" The real 2 series begins with the larger 2032 and up. My advice "Get the smallest tractor that can handle your largest chore. Then it also handle your smallest chore. --- If you get a tractor large enough to easily handle your largest chore, it may be too large to handle your smallest chore." Stay Safe.
I believe the only restriction orifice in the loader circuit is to reduce the flow when the loader is lowering. I'm with you, I don't think a small increase in pressure will do much harm. I may even get around to checking and adjusting mine. The curl function having greater force is a function of the geometry of the cylinder to pivot point ratio.
Great video...I really enjoy the "Outlaw" perspective. When I was a diesel mechanic in Viet Nam rebuilding injectors and pumps, GI's wanted to roll the black smoke on those convoys, the black smoke is just wasted fuel, but I would turn the fuel up and re-seal it for them...most of the time, those transportation companies had access to some really good steaks! Keep the videos coming and dive into some more "Outlaw Stuff!"
Great video. One small thing. Could you redo the video. This time show the max it can lift before the pressure change, and after. I think that would be great. I know a ton of people would love to see it.
Those cheap pumps are not designed to run that kind of pressure, not only that you will overload the components. I have a great deal of experience with hydraulic systems
Orfices restrict flow, will not change pressure at all, that is to slowly metter the oil when you lower your boom, with out it the boom will drop super quick and put the supply oil coming in on the other-side of the cylinder under a vacum causing air bubbles aka cavitation
I enjoyed your video and love the name of your channel as I'm from the North and a Yankee! A concern you didn't address is the possibility to overload your front axle with the greater lift capacity. There is probably a 10%-15% safety margin built into the design which you may have used up. Stay safe!
Did you see any noticeable improvements by increasing the pressure? Would it only increase loader lift capabilities or what other benefits would there be, like max speed?
Buy a bigger backhoe with a bigger flow rate hyd. pump. Most backhoe speed depends on how much flow and pressure the pump puts out. A lost of the small tractors with backhoes on them do not put out enough flow and pressure to do a good job. Kubota know that very well, and is known for bigger hyd. pump output to help with this. Also warn seals inside the hyd. cylinders will let pressure bypass within the cylinder without showing a external oil leak.
To answer the question of bucket curl strength being tied to the “spacer” on the coupler. Lift/curl strength is a two part process. 1. Pressure, higher is going to yield more capacity at a cost to equipment strain and wear. 2. Leverage, the geometry of the loader curl vs the lift frame will give more available “torque” to make each function lift more. The curl function is strongest about mid articulation, losing power in either up or down swing, and lift is strongest at the lowest point of travel degrading in the up swing (curl strength also degrades the farther away from pivot point faster than lift). Regarding having a smaller orifice being a possible reason for more pressure in the curl. I’ve never seen the inside of that spacer coupler, and I’d like to see it to confirm, but If it were in fact a smaller orifice, I believe It would have a greater affect on flow than it would on pressure. It could affect pressure if the entire run past the orifice was necked the same size, but after the orifice you lose any pressure you gained at the orifice. Pressure maximum is relative to the relief valve you adjusted. With respect to the surface area on the back of the cylinder face, and diameter of the tube. To have an orifice in the middle of the system would have minimal effect to pressure at the cylinder. Huge impact on flow. Possibly controlling dump speed at rated capacity for safety? (Piston Elevators use this same principle as a safety for decent if hydraulics fail with a full carriage at a high floor) I’m not a number cruncher or physicist. Mearly the son of a John Deere construction equipment mechanic who’s also an electrician, and an equipment operator for the U.S. Army. Hydraulics and electrical circuits act similar and hence why I took work as an electrician in the civilian sector lol. Not saying your wrong not having torn into my own 1025r to see what’s in that spacer... but just from a design standpoint there’s a lot more physical evidence in design. ...I seriously hope I didn’t lose anyone there lol. My intent was not to detract from your awesome video. Well done.
@@dzlkawboy33 I've got a b2650 cab tractor. I have to say, it's set pretty well from the factory. I can pick up enough to pick the rear end off the ground. Now that I have a counter weight, I'd just like a little more umph.
LMAO! Love it! Honestly, I think the limits of little John is going to be the hydraulic pistons! Pretty sure something will bend before you would break the pump. Think I'll pass on this tweak. ;)
on a 2 inch cylinder at 2300 lbs of psi you had about 7225 lbs of push on each cylinder. at 2500 psi you are at about 7854 lbs of push on each cylinder.
It would depend on how the hydrostat is plumbed but I really would believe it is your imagination. Since the relief valve you adjusted it is on the control block for the loader. I would like to believe the hydro Stat system is a one-piece unit where the pump and the motor are right together and you have a forward and reverse relief all inside the transmission housing? On the older John Deere equipment you could go look in the parts book and find where your relief valves are. But I would almost bet that's a relief valves for that High stats system would be a non serviceable item?
I have a 1025R and I put a WoodMaxx chipper on last fall. It's done a lot of work in a short time and never complained. Yes Tim should get one just for the fun of it. Plus he would not need to burn so much.
A liquid filled gauge is not always inherently more accurate than a standard gauge. The liquid is usually meant to dampen vibrations through the gauge mechanism to help stabilize the needle for more accurate readings of the gauge face and help the gauge survive the vibrations. It can also help reduce moisture corrosion inside as well. Just a little info for all.
your tilt actually has a bigger rod in the cylinder than than the lift cylinder, I'm getting ready to increase the size of both cylinder bores by 1/2" (not the cylinder size) for lift and curl strength. in other words. increasing the cylinder size won't help, increase only the rod size
Just curious at to how that is possible. The hydraulic pump for the loader and scv is located on the back of the transmission by the rock shaft and right above the PTO.... far away from the engine!
How's she goion'? Just found your channel and watched you put Jonathan in beast mode!!! Pretty cool. I have some red in the shed, a Massey Ferguson GC2300. I have several videos about the mods and attachment I have done to it. I subbed your channel and am looking forward to watching some more of your videos!!! Take 'er easy!!!
@@bws7212 6120 John Deere bitch and I can keep going but I don't let everybody know my business Punk that's probably what you got Cub Cadet you sound like a lawnmower guy TED Talks someone else Punk
Really enjoyed watching! Thanks for the shout-out and kind words!
Tim he is correct you are indeed a Saint.
Thank you. I have a 2032R. Love it. Very nimble, powerful. Well engineered. Meets all my needs. Need a ballast on the rear for heavy front end loader. Perfect Tractor for me.
Glad you responded TTWT. Great content. I’m torn between a 1025r or 2 series. I’m going to be cutting and moving lots of down trees 🌲 on our Colorado property. Any suggestions? Thanks
@@lovinlivinrvin7261 Hello! Did you get your tractor yet? Since no one responded to you, I would pick the 1025R for tight spaces and the 2032R for more power and wide open spaces.
@@lovinlivinrvin7261 , Another YT channel considers the 2025 a "series 1.5" The real 2 series begins with the larger 2032 and up. My advice "Get the smallest tractor that can handle your largest chore. Then it also handle your smallest chore. --- If you get a tractor large enough to easily handle your largest chore, it may be too large to handle your smallest chore." Stay Safe.
Would love to seen ya run the front loader & bucket & do some strength tests after your made adjustments
I believe the only restriction orifice in the loader circuit is to reduce the flow when the loader is lowering.
I'm with you, I don't think a small increase in pressure will do much harm. I may even get around to checking and adjusting mine.
The curl function having greater force is a function of the geometry of the cylinder to pivot point ratio.
I will say this, you are very smart when it comes to the mechanics of how all this works. Very impressed Bubba! Mark.
Thank you!!
Great video...I really enjoy the "Outlaw" perspective. When I was a diesel mechanic in Viet Nam rebuilding injectors and pumps, GI's wanted to roll the black smoke on those convoys, the black smoke is just wasted fuel, but I would turn the fuel up and re-seal it for them...most of the time, those transportation companies had access to some really good steaks! Keep the videos coming and dive into some more "Outlaw Stuff!"
😂😂Will do! Thanks for watching
The front bucket curls harder because of leverage not the Hydraulic lines
Great video. One small thing. Could you redo the video. This time show the max it can lift before the pressure change, and after. I think that would be great. I know a ton of people would love to see it.
Those cheap pumps are not designed to run that kind of pressure, not only that you will overload the components. I have a great deal of experience with hydraulic systems
This guy is awesome! I have no idea how I just stumbled across this but this is a great tractor video.
Orfices restrict flow, will not change pressure at all, that is to slowly metter the oil when you lower your boom, with out it the boom will drop super quick and put the supply oil coming in on the other-side of the cylinder under a vacum causing air bubbles aka cavitation
Dude, you are a funny man/outlaw. Loving your disclaimer buddy............
Thank you!
I enjoyed your video and love the name of your channel as I'm from the North and a Yankee! A concern you didn't address is the possibility to overload your front axle with the greater lift capacity. There is probably a 10%-15% safety margin built into the design which you may have used up. Stay safe!
The factory hydraulics are rated to 3000 psi.
Great fun video!
The fitting with the restricted orifice is to limit the speed of the drop rate of the loader arms.
Ok thanks for the info, and thanks for watching!
Tim does this too. He just won't make a video about it.
Did you see any noticeable improvements by increasing the pressure? Would it only increase loader lift capabilities or what other benefits would there be, like max speed?
This guy has to be an SMA subscriber....
Lol! SEND IT! 🤣. Cheers from the Bulldog 🍻
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the laugh, when I clicked on the title I was wondering how anybody could possibly say something negative about Tim. LOL
He’s a square
He’s a square
He’s a square
Tractor time with Tim is an idiot
This reminds me of Tool Time with Tim Allen ..Always trying to make things more powerful but sometimes destroying things...lol
I’d like to know how to speed up my backhoe on my 1025r! Great video tho!
If your still looking , you can get a HydroPlus kit now. His website is up and running. Increases flow to the implements.
Buy a bigger backhoe with a bigger flow rate hyd. pump. Most backhoe speed depends on how much flow and pressure the pump puts out. A lost of the small tractors with backhoes on them do not put out enough flow and pressure to do a good job. Kubota know that very well, and is known for bigger hyd. pump output to help with this. Also warn seals inside the hyd. cylinders will let pressure bypass within the cylinder without showing a external oil leak.
Still same slow cycles times thou, mine as well bump the rpm up too while your at it
Outlaw my arse!! Guy has a wedding Ring!! That's a WHoopedLaw!!
TTWT is adding a turbo to his Johnny, now that might actually explode
Yeah that's going to be interesting.
To answer the question of bucket curl strength being tied to the “spacer” on the coupler. Lift/curl strength is a two part process. 1. Pressure, higher is going to yield more capacity at a cost to equipment strain and wear. 2. Leverage, the geometry of the loader curl vs the lift frame will give more available “torque” to make each function lift more. The curl function is strongest about mid articulation, losing power in either up or down swing, and lift is strongest at the lowest point of travel degrading in the up swing (curl strength also degrades the farther away from pivot point faster than lift).
Regarding having a smaller orifice being a possible reason for more pressure in the curl. I’ve never seen the inside of that spacer coupler, and I’d like to see it to confirm, but If it were in fact a smaller orifice, I believe It would have a greater affect on flow than it would on pressure. It could affect pressure if the entire run past the orifice was necked the same size, but after the orifice you lose any pressure you gained at the orifice. Pressure maximum is relative to the relief valve you adjusted. With respect to the surface area on the back of the cylinder face, and diameter of the tube. To have an orifice in the middle of the system would have minimal effect to pressure at the cylinder. Huge impact on flow. Possibly controlling dump speed at rated capacity for safety? (Piston Elevators use this same principle as a safety for decent if hydraulics fail with a full carriage at a high floor) I’m not a number cruncher or physicist. Mearly the son of a John Deere construction equipment mechanic who’s also an electrician, and an equipment operator for the U.S. Army. Hydraulics and electrical circuits act similar and hence why I took work as an electrician in the civilian sector lol. Not saying your wrong not having torn into my own 1025r to see what’s in that spacer... but just from a design standpoint there’s a lot more physical evidence in design.
...I seriously hope I didn’t lose anyone there lol. My intent was not to detract from your awesome video. Well done.
Kentucky Yankee I think so. It makes the most sense.
Would have been cool to see a lift test. Before and after.
I've been thinking about turning up the line pressure on my Kubota.
Subbed.
I cranked up the psi on my bx2680 and it changed the whole tractor's usage! Do it!
@@dzlkawboy33
I've got a b2650 cab tractor. I have to say, it's set pretty well from the factory. I can pick up enough to pick the rear end off the ground.
Now that I have a counter weight, I'd just like a little more umph.
Does that increase the backhoe pressure too or is there another adjustment for that?
Yes increases the pressure on the whole system
LMAO! Love it! Honestly, I think the limits of little John is going to be the hydraulic pistons! Pretty sure something will bend before you would break the pump. Think I'll pass on this tweak. ;)
on a 2 inch cylinder at 2300 lbs of psi you had about 7225 lbs of push on each cylinder. at 2500 psi you are at about 7854 lbs of push on each cylinder.
It would depend on how the hydrostat is plumbed but I really would believe it is your imagination. Since the relief valve you adjusted it is on the control block for the loader.
I would like to believe the hydro Stat system is a one-piece unit where the pump and the motor are right together and you have a forward and reverse relief all inside the transmission housing?
On the older John Deere equipment you could go look in the parts book and find where your relief valves are. But I would almost bet that's a relief valves for that High stats system would be a non serviceable item?
You know there is way more to the netherlands than Amsterdam?
I have a 1025R and I put a WoodMaxx chipper on last fall. It's done a lot of work in a short time and never complained. Yes Tim should get one just for the fun of it. Plus he would not need to burn so much.
I have a woodmax also. I think the woodlands mills is the way to go.
You need a liquid filled gauge for more accuracy!
A liquid filled gauge is not always inherently more accurate than a standard gauge. The liquid is usually meant to dampen vibrations through the gauge mechanism to help stabilize the needle for more accurate readings of the gauge face and help the gauge survive the vibrations. It can also help reduce moisture corrosion inside as well. Just a little info for all.
Great Vid! Subscribed!
Thank you!
You sound pretty interesting. I think I'll give you a try. Tractor Time with Tim is Awesome!
BTW...I'm a big fan of TTWT too!
He's got a great channel
Is there a wood chipper video?
Yes sir! th-cam.com/video/-dFdYPPOJBY/w-d-xo.html
Best tractor you have is the one at the end. Nothing better than an old IH
@@kentuckyyankee sure ya can I have a 3720 jd but I also have an ih sticker on the back window of the cab. So I can give the JD a little more class.
I’m a 100% tractor time with Tim fan
Thanks Peanut!
No silly! Don’t cam it, turbo it, or injector swap it! Ls swap the world!
No rops what a rebel.
😂😂
Great video, I’m sure Tim got a kick out of it.
Keep on tractoring
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Awesome
Video, can you down video of turning the fuel up for More hp
The reason that curl has more force is mechanics the curl function is shorter distance than lift, thus more available power to use.
First time seeing your channel. Love to see more on that IN 484. I'm a red fan.
I love the 484, there are several videos in my playlist on that tractor, check em out and let me know what you think.
This is the playlist th-cam.com/play/PL9qe0chdOgTu6YhRZZ1-YK5lloOpemOQ6.html
your tilt actually has a bigger rod in the cylinder than than the lift cylinder, I'm getting ready to increase the size of both cylinder bores by 1/2" (not the cylinder size) for lift and curl strength. in other words. increasing the cylinder size won't help, increase only the rod size
be careful turning up the hyd pressure I know some one that did and blew the hyd pump seal and filled the engine full of hyd oil not good
thanks for the reply
Just curious at to how that is possible. The hydraulic pump for the loader and scv is located on the back of the transmission by the rock shaft and right above the PTO.... far away from the engine!
@@wraith3951 it was on a Kubota B7100 4x4
If it aint green leave it in the shed I'm guilty of having a red one too
Love that old I.H.
I got a international 574 with a loader on
@@noahhelmuth6497 Those are great tractors
I definitely can't complain about my tractor it does more than I ask from it I put grapples on my bucket which it has forks on it
Excellent video man! Enjoined it.
@@kentuckyyankee I'm doing this to my B26 shhhh lol
How's she goion'? Just found your channel and watched you put Jonathan in beast mode!!! Pretty cool. I have some red in the shed, a Massey Ferguson GC2300. I have several videos about the mods and attachment I have done to it. I subbed your channel and am looking forward to watching some more of your videos!!! Take 'er easy!!!
Well, now Tim is way past you with Johnny X. Just saying.
fuel increased,
video please
IS THAT THE REAL OLD JOHNNY
If Tim disappears, they may need to go look in the mulch pile..........
Great video
Your tractor was a 1023,ttwt has a 1025
No, actually you’re incorrect. The 1023 and the x750 share the same engine. The 1025 is different. 1.1L vs.9L
Lol!! Great vid man
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Hahaha YANKEES 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Nice lawnmower but far from tractor. Tractor time with Tim he also has a lawn mower hahaha
GreenBoy at GA Farms what you got a cub cadet? JOKING 😂
@@bws7212 6120 John Deere bitch and I can keep going but I don't let everybody know my business Punk that's probably what you got Cub Cadet you sound like a lawnmower guy TED Talks someone else Punk
@@greenboyatgafarms2250 hmm, someone doesn't understand sarcasm
Hmmm someone??? Hmmmm
@@greenboyatgafarms2250 where are your tractor vids I couldn't find them?