If you like the look of this route, it is now available on EPIC GPS Adventures (.com) a not-for-profit society that started in 2023 to share a PILE of multi-day Canadian Dualsport Routes. This original route was gifted to us by Roger so it can be carried forward to future generations.
I went from Gran Forks to Revelstoke on one day and hit that bridge at 6:55. From Grand forks to Edgewood I saw dozens of riders, but from Edgewood past whatshan to shelter bay I I didn't see anyone at all and I had been on the road for hours at that point, making camp opposite of nakusp on the top of a mountain. Anyway I just wanted to say that bridge at 6:55 was my favourite part of the trip and I stopped there awhile. Good memories.
Great series of videos Scott! Some of the roads/bridges/rivers/scenery were familiar! I went to the Wandr Rally in Canal Flats a couple weeks ago (after watching your video from last year) and we covered a lot of the same area. Glad to hear you're still loving the GS!
Man! So glad things worked out with the bag/key! So nice to see things work out with generous strangers. I am unfortunately taking it easy this weekend. Got a significant cut on my wrist at work thursday, 9 hours at the ER and 5 stitches later. Just trying to give it a chance to heal up.
every time came to Vernon for the gathering, i took the road off Shelter bay north through the logging area that takes you a few kms west of Needles. parts of the route you show on this amazing video I do not have a GPS path i used a map and a compass and I got lost a few times on the first go though :) all part of the adventure.
Well done, sir! Great video. I did this route solo early July this year on my DesertX, starting in Radium after riding from AB. Bought the same package from Roger a couple years back. Gorgeous views and an epic ride no doubt. The endless camping options are the icing on the cake. I'll be back again next summer to do it all over again!
Good to see you again Scotty! For some reason the Chimps weren’t in my feed for a while, and I missed your voice. Good to see you back, and on a solo run. What fun I’ve had watching, lots of laughs. You are a brave soul! And it just ended! What a wonderful ride along! Thanks so much.
I ran the kbdr solo last fall. I found the crux on my loaded T7 was tricky. Line choice a must as skidding the rear was almost impossible, and a heavy front brake with no abs was a certain drop. Great job on that GS.
I just completed the Crux on my 1090 R. I totally agree with difficulty 4 down. Near the bottom, I completely lost my rear brake from overheating. Not for the faint of heart on a fully loaded Adventure Bike. Thanks for all your videos, see you guys at the Adventure Bike Gathering!
The road chicken commentary!! Lol 😂 “we gotta runner” … super glad the bag and key situation worked out. I’m gonna have to run this route in it’s entirety someday. I’ve done sections of it.
Nicely filmed, narrated and edited.. Thank you. From Tasmania, Australia.. Where the scenery and tracks are just like your trip. I agree, that's s big bike to do those steep descents on.. I have the same bike.
Nice! I appreciate the comment. I have riding in your zone on my bucket list. We plan to use TMA to help us find people to ride with is really cool places. :P
Another great video and learning some good camping tips👍. Appears you have been exposed to at least one of the foibles of keyless ignition😬. And finally, well done on the Crux!
We took the big bikes down the Creston/Boundary trail last week too. Definitely a little spicy on them. The road from the bottom of the decent to Bounday Lake was perfect fun factor. Firm sand, no rocks, good sight lines = fun pace!
Yeah dudes! Gotta meet up with you guys sometime. Engineers are a bit smart for my liking but I'll give you a pass. :P (I am not sure what that means but it feels funny!)
I love that area, I 've chased around in my truck for fishing up there. I just found your channel, great stuff from BC (I'm in the Fraser Valley)....I just picked up a KLR this year to get back offroad...great video...thank you
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If one uses a GoPro when riding, you can tell how crazy steep and loose that section was. Nice going. Edit: That steep section is one of the reasons slow sleep skills and control precision is so important and worth practicing.
That was a great looking CBDR, I had no clue that it existed Kudos to you for riding it solo, I wouldn’t do it alone on my 1250 because I know somewhere I’d drop it and I definitely need help picking it back up.
Excellent video, sir. I thoroughly enjoyed that and I’m going to do this someday. I rode my 1250 GS on the Utah BDR and great Continental divide route from Wyoming to Eureka, Montana, and then rode the Alcan home to Anchorage. I have a KTM 890 adventure now and I’m going to park it down there at my buddies house and use for a dedicated BDR/TAT bike For a few years. See you on the trails!
@@DirtChimps I just got the 890, I rode it home last week but was sketch as still winter here. But it feels like it’ll be perfect. Yup the GS was too big for the UT BDR haha but was still super fun and I didn’t regret it, not even once. The Kokopelli was the most challenging part with all the boulders on the steep downhill but the deep talcum powder sandy bits in sections 1,2&3 were sinister. It’s just too heavy on the front wheel to ride that much consecutive sand. We ran through a snowstorm and some deep muddy ruts on Soldier’s Summit and coming down, it started to dry and had to stop to clean the mud out of the fender a couple times because it hung onto the tire like concrete. Last spring I traded it for a ‘23 1290 Super Adventure R and put a high fender kit on it. I rode that to Dawson City over Top of the World Highway and then up the Dempster to Tuktoyaktuk NWT and then down the Klondike Highway through Whitehorse onto Skagway and back. Along the way played around on some sideroads, two track and four wheeler trails. Wasn’t the full on Utah experience but gave me a chance to tell that the KTM was far superior than the GS due to it just feels like a dirt oriented bike even though it does very well on the highway, the GS wins the pavement slightly though. I had a ‘19 KTM SA S (old chassis) and the GS was equally far superior to that one. These bikes just get better and better! Was originally going to ship the 1290 to Seattle this fall and ride home again but decided I’d better park a bike at my buddies house in Pueblo. I’m really looking forward to this 890 because it’s a new category for me but seems to be a no-brainer for a BDR bike. Sorry for the book! I am going to watch more of your content to put on our list. 😎🤘🏼
Nice Video. You commented that the GSA was the "best bike" for gravel and riding around that area. I recently posted a comment that the GSA is the "best bike" for riding the roads up the Dempster to Tuktoyaktuk. Did that in July and the bike did not disappoint in any way (I have a '22 Factory Lowered GSA). Oooooo, that Sandy section did NOT look like fun! Picking up the big girl, especially loaded, is a massive challenge.
Awe man, I attempted that route ( to Fernie) this summer too (2023), and got turned around by fire crews about 2/3rds down. I had just enough fuel to make it back, to take the hwy:( I must have been a few days ahead of you. Beautiful drive.
Cool man! Yeah, those fires were a drag. Back at it this year with a new and improved route. See EPICGPSAdventure.com. We have been gited the routes, and about 20 of us have collected to create a not-for-profit around them!
Thanks! Pretty different than our massive struggle and watch me nearly hurt myself stuff. Some people will like, some will say we are getting soft. I agree with the later. A little self preservation kicked in at 52 years old.
I saw a vid by one of those channels that is supposed to teach you how to ride adv bikes offroad and the instructor is riding a similar bike to yours. He suggested on big downhills to turn off then engine, put it in first and with the engine off it brakes more than with the engine on...so apparently more controllable. If I find the link again I will post it here.
Interesting🤔… I took an off road course with a guy that was sponsored and did a few Dakars … he never mentioned turning off the engine. It would be helpful to see the video you mentioned. Always looking for good input.
Ah yes the lesson for keyless riders. If your bike tells you that your key is out of range stop immediately and find your key. Maybe it's just a battery or interference issue but if it's not you want to stop before you drive away and no longer have any idea where you might have dropped it. Happy you got lucky and got it back. I've felt that gut punch when you're on a long trip and you stop to discover you've lost your key. Sucks.
Hi Ryan! In this video you are seeing an Enduristan Tornado 2 Large. We like them a lot. Wide and low. Better for when you need to get your bum WAY back.
It really was nice. Have you done the Okanagan route? Roger tells me that it is more challenging. I look forward to scheduling it in this year if possible.
@@DirtChimps Not done any Canada BDRs but they sure do look attractive compared with getting to the South end of ORBDR I'm riding to from Calgary next week, definitely going to try one next year even if I'm solo like you
Ahem, it was an 1190 Adventure R. Also, that hot sauce is amazing! I just polished off a bottle of it tonight and have two more in the pantry ready to go. Mix it with some Chick Fil A sauce for some amazing stuff.
Great Video Thanks for that. I purchased both CanadaBDR routes earlier this year but haven’t been out yet. Hoping to do Okanagan route late Sept. Which GPS are you using? I have the NAV 6 on my GS but can’t say I’m all that thrilled with it for offroad.
I am using my phone and Sidecar by TMA for navigation. Works great. We hope to do the Okanagan BDR either Sept 1 to 3 or the weekend after The Adventure Bike Gathering here in Vernon.
Great question. They (Loop) do not protrude enough to be an issue, but I know what you speak of from others ear plugs, and from trying to wear ear buds so I can have music.
Fech fech is an arabic word for very fine powder clay. The word got well known with the Paris Dakar race where riders really learn how miserable they can get riding in fech fech for hundreds of km.
@@dirttv It's easier than that. Join TMA. Click subscribe in Kootenay CDR, route appear in your TMA Mobile App (iOS or Android). See TMA emails and/or social media for our early help documentation. We are working hard on making it all great, and intuitive. A big job for certain!
Thanks! The tracks are from CanadaBDR.com. I use Sidecar to follow tracks. I used to use Gaia but Sidecar is better for showing and hiding tracks, and I like the easy zoom buttons. Oh, and we made Sidecar so I am super biased, but there is a reason that we made it! :)
If you like the look of this route, it is now available on EPIC GPS Adventures (.com) a not-for-profit society that started in 2023 to share a PILE of multi-day Canadian Dualsport Routes. This original route was gifted to us by Roger so it can be carried forward to future generations.
I went from Gran Forks to Revelstoke on one day and hit that bridge at 6:55. From Grand forks to Edgewood I saw dozens of riders, but from Edgewood past whatshan to shelter bay I I didn't see anyone at all and I had been on the road for hours at that point, making camp opposite of nakusp on the top of a mountain. Anyway I just wanted to say that bridge at 6:55 was my favourite part of the trip and I stopped there awhile. Good memories.
Great series of videos Scott! Some of the roads/bridges/rivers/scenery were familiar! I went to the Wandr Rally in Canal Flats a couple weeks ago (after watching your video from last year) and we covered a lot of the same area. Glad to hear you're still loving the GS!
Man! So glad things worked out with the bag/key! So nice to see things work out with generous strangers.
I am unfortunately taking it easy this weekend. Got a significant cut on my wrist at work thursday, 9 hours at the ER and 5 stitches later. Just trying to give it a chance to heal up.
Yikes! Hey, we ride when we can, we work or learn when we can't. It works for us!
First time viewer, now subscribed… I really like the scoring system idea.
Sweet. Thanks! Here is a link to the rating system (well, on the right hand side of this page). www.theadventurebikegathering.com/routes-2/
every time came to Vernon for the gathering, i took the road off Shelter bay north through the logging area that takes you a few kms west of Needles. parts of the route you show on this amazing video
I do not have a GPS path i used a map and a compass and I got lost a few times on the first go though :) all part of the adventure.
Well done, sir! Great video. I did this route solo early July this year on my DesertX, starting in Radium after riding from AB. Bought the same package from Roger a couple years back. Gorgeous views and an epic ride no doubt. The endless camping options are the icing on the cake. I'll be back again next summer to do it all over again!
Good to see you again Scotty! For some reason the Chimps weren’t in my feed for a while, and I missed your voice. Good to see you back, and on a solo run. What fun I’ve had watching, lots of laughs. You are a brave soul!
And it just ended! What a wonderful ride along! Thanks so much.
Thanks Peter for going out of your way to make such a nice comment!
I ran the kbdr solo last fall. I found the crux on my loaded T7 was tricky. Line choice a must as skidding the rear was almost impossible, and a heavy front brake with no abs was a certain drop. Great job on that GS.
SOLID! Cheers.
I just completed the Crux on my 1090 R. I totally agree with difficulty 4 down. Near the bottom, I completely lost my rear brake from overheating. Not for the faint of heart on a fully loaded Adventure Bike. Thanks for all your videos, see you guys at the Adventure Bike Gathering!
Well done! Hey, when you see us at the Gathering, remind us (well me, Scott) that you are the 1090 cooked brake guy!
The road chicken commentary!! Lol 😂 “we gotta runner” … super glad the bag and key situation worked out. I’m gonna have to run this route in it’s entirety someday. I’ve done sections of it.
My favorite new channel! Great work and awesome footage of your trails.
We are excited to have you join us!
Awesome vid Scott. 👍👍This is some of the best out there. More please.
Wow, thanks! Andrew and I leave Friday on a slightly different type of adventure, but still on big bikes. I'm excited!
@@VernonSnowMX Oops! I was in Vernon Snow MX mode! LOL
Nicely filmed, narrated and edited.. Thank you. From Tasmania, Australia.. Where the scenery and tracks are just like your trip. I agree, that's s big bike to do those steep descents on.. I have the same bike.
Nice! I appreciate the comment. I have riding in your zone on my bucket list. We plan to use TMA to help us find people to ride with is really cool places. :P
Just did the section from Fernie area to Yahk a couple weekends ago. The fechfech, or moon dust, or flour sand - that caught a couple of us off guard!
I bet. It's like "Hello, time to mess you up!"
Great video!!! So happy you are filling your bucket❤❤❤
Good video and commentary! You are a brave man to do this alone on a big bike! It is no fun picking them up! Will look up the BDR up there!
Another great video and learning some good camping tips👍. Appears you have been exposed to at least one of the foibles of keyless ignition😬. And finally, well done on the Crux!
We took the big bikes down the Creston/Boundary trail last week too. Definitely a little spicy on them. The road from the bottom of the decent to Bounday Lake was perfect fun factor. Firm sand, no rocks, good sight lines = fun pace!
Yeah dudes! Gotta meet up with you guys sometime. Engineers are a bit smart for my liking but I'll give you a pass. :P (I am not sure what that means but it feels funny!)
I love that area, I 've chased around in my truck for fishing up there. I just found your channel, great stuff from BC (I'm in the Fraser Valley)....I just picked up a KLR this year to get back offroad...great video...thank you
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If one uses a GoPro when riding, you can tell how crazy steep and loose that section was. Nice going.
Edit: That steep section is one of the reasons slow sleep skills and control precision is so important and worth practicing.
Yeah!!!
Great video and thank you for the epic adventures link! Looks like a fantastic organization
Great work again Scott. Love your job!
Best Job Ever! Oh, and we are hiring! We just hired a Team Mechanic and Fleet Manager. More great jobs coming up!
Cant wait to do this loop this summer on the Kove 450 Rally!! Thanks for the video.
Wow, what a great video and route. I need to find that route gpx file and put that on my list before I get too old to ride BDRs. Thanks for sharing
Awesome route! I didn't even know CBDR was a thing.
As for me, I'm more concerned about bears than steep climbs :)
I hve worked around bears for many years. lack bears though. Not really all that scary. They don't stop me.
That was very enjoyable scott .Thanks
Glad you are liking it Ian.
Great video man! Tks for sharing. I'll definitely look into it, since I moved recently to this area
Great zone. Okanagan is stellar as well. Enjoy!
great ride...thanks for sharing
Thank you for this vid. I have been wanting to run this loop with my 1200GS. This vid was really helpful.
It certainly is an option!
That was a great looking CBDR, I had no clue that it existed Kudos to you for riding it solo, I wouldn’t do it alone on my 1250 because I know somewhere I’d drop it and I definitely need help picking it back up.
That’s a very very nice BDR. Jealous. I’m in Tennessee, and we have a lot of beautiful spaces, but this is another level.
Nice work. Definitely makes me want to try this route. 😊
Excellent video, sir. I thoroughly enjoyed that and I’m going to do this someday. I rode my 1250 GS on the Utah BDR and great Continental divide route from Wyoming to Eureka, Montana, and then rode the Alcan home to Anchorage. I have a KTM 890 adventure now and I’m going to park it down there at my buddies house and use for a dedicated BDR/TAT bike For a few years. See you on the trails!
Thanks for the note! How was the GS on the UT BDR? Too much bike? Glad to be on the smaller and more "off-roady" 890 now?
@@DirtChimps I just got the 890, I rode it home last week but was sketch as still winter here. But it feels like it’ll be perfect. Yup the GS was too big for the UT BDR haha but was still super fun and I didn’t regret it, not even once. The Kokopelli was the most challenging part with all the boulders on the steep downhill but the deep talcum powder sandy bits in sections 1,2&3 were sinister. It’s just too heavy on the front wheel to ride that much consecutive sand. We ran through a snowstorm and some deep muddy ruts on Soldier’s Summit and coming down, it started to dry and had to stop to clean the mud out of the fender a couple times because it hung onto the tire like concrete. Last spring I traded it for a ‘23 1290 Super Adventure R and put a high fender kit on it. I rode that to Dawson City over Top of the World Highway and then up the Dempster to Tuktoyaktuk NWT and then down the Klondike Highway through Whitehorse onto Skagway and back. Along the way played around on some sideroads, two track and four wheeler trails. Wasn’t the full on Utah experience but gave me a chance to tell that the KTM was far superior than the GS due to it just feels like a dirt oriented bike even though it does very well on the highway, the GS wins the pavement slightly though. I had a ‘19 KTM SA S (old chassis) and the GS was equally far superior to that one. These bikes just get better and better! Was originally going to ship the 1290 to Seattle this fall and ride home again but decided I’d better park a bike at my buddies house in Pueblo. I’m really looking forward to this 890 because it’s a new category for me but seems to be a no-brainer for a BDR bike. Sorry for the book! I am going to watch more of your content to put on our list. 😎🤘🏼
@@robb907 Fun read. Thanks very much! I have yet to own a 1290. Someday :)
@@DirtChimps very fun! But I keep hearing go straight to the 890 so we’ll see.
REALY enjoyed this one !!!
Nice Video. You commented that the GSA was the "best bike" for gravel and riding around that area. I recently posted a comment that the GSA is the "best bike" for riding the roads up the Dempster to Tuktoyaktuk. Did that in July and the bike did not disappoint in any way (I have a '22 Factory Lowered GSA).
Oooooo, that Sandy section did NOT look like fun! Picking up the big girl, especially loaded, is a massive challenge.
Thanks for the note Don!
Hey Scott great video! We will def check with Roger for his route…!
Awe man, I attempted that route ( to Fernie) this summer too (2023), and got turned around by fire crews about 2/3rds down. I had just enough fuel to make it back, to take the hwy:( I must have been a few days ahead of you. Beautiful drive.
Cool man! Yeah, those fires were a drag. Back at it this year with a new and improved route. See EPICGPSAdventure.com. We have been gited the routes, and about 20 of us have collected to create a not-for-profit around them!
Really digging this series.
Thanks! Pretty different than our massive struggle and watch me nearly hurt myself stuff. Some people will like, some will say we are getting soft. I agree with the later. A little self preservation kicked in at 52 years old.
Awesome vid ,Loved it . Thanks
Really cool trip! Love it❤
Boss as usual. Thanks!
I saw a vid by one of those channels that is supposed to teach you how to ride adv bikes offroad and the instructor is riding a similar bike to yours. He suggested on big downhills to turn off then engine, put it in first and with the engine off it brakes more than with the engine on...so apparently more controllable. If I find the link again I will post it here.
That is good advice! I have felt compelled to do that before. Was not yet quite there on this one.
Interesting🤔… I took an off road course with a guy that was sponsored and did a few Dakars … he never mentioned turning off the engine.
It would be helpful to see the video you mentioned. Always looking for good input.
@@BacktrackADV th-cam.com/video/Dv8cfbJ09Uw/w-d-xo.html
Really enjoyed the video - right up there with Itchy Boots entertainment
Well, that is high praise. Not deserved, but thanks anyways!
Great vid........... any chance of getting the whole route download for my Garmin GPS? or a hard copy map?
The website that is provided does not work. It takes you to the American bdr. Where can you get this trail? Thanks
Amazing! I'd love to hook up with you at some point in the future. I need a bike first though!
That would help! Our big event comes up in just a few weeks. Get shopping and join The Adventure Bike Gathering! :P
Ah yes the lesson for keyless riders. If your bike tells you that your key is out of range stop immediately and find your key. Maybe it's just a battery or interference issue but if it's not you want to stop before you drive away and no longer have any idea where you might have dropped it. Happy you got lucky and got it back. I've felt that gut punch when you're on a long trip and you stop to discover you've lost your key. Sucks.
I shall pack that silly plastic key just in case. Not even sure what to do with it though.
Yeah I keep mine with the owner's manual in my filing cabinet. Don't know how works either. 🙄@@DirtChimps
What size bag are you using under the bevertail in place of the 22l stinger tailbag. Looks like a great setup.
Hi Ryan! In this video you are seeing an Enduristan Tornado 2 Large. We like them a lot. Wide and low. Better for when you need to get your bum WAY back.
@@DirtChimps
Been trying to convince my riding buddies for years to do the Kootenay BDR instead of heading to the US, now we have to do it!
It really was nice. Have you done the Okanagan route? Roger tells me that it is more challenging. I look forward to scheduling it in this year if possible.
@@DirtChimps Not done any Canada BDRs but they sure do look attractive compared with getting to the South end of ORBDR I'm riding to from Calgary next week, definitely going to try one next year even if I'm solo like you
@@DirtRiderLife Splendid. I wish we had some to do the ORBDR this year. Next year! Have fun!
Great video buddy.
can you please post a link to the Nav app you are using ?
Love love the idea of giving back to help our environment as we use our toys. Great idea. Thanks!
Ahem, it was an 1190 Adventure R. Also, that hot sauce is amazing! I just polished off a bottle of it tonight and have two more in the pantry ready to go. Mix it with some Chick Fil A sauce for some amazing stuff.
Great Video Thanks for that. I purchased both CanadaBDR routes earlier this year but haven’t been out yet. Hoping to do Okanagan route late Sept.
Which GPS are you using?
I have the NAV 6 on my GS but can’t say I’m all that thrilled with it for offroad.
I am using my phone and Sidecar by TMA for navigation. Works great.
We hope to do the Okanagan BDR either Sept 1 to 3 or the weekend after The Adventure Bike Gathering here in Vernon.
The Crux would be a good shakedown run if you were planning on visiting similar roads in other countries. Smell the clutch and brakes after.
Great stuff.
Do you find those ear plugs make taking your helmet off kinda painful...? Not too squishy 🤔😢
Great question. They (Loop) do not protrude enough to be an issue, but I know what you speak of from others ear plugs, and from trying to wear ear buds so I can have music.
Fech fech is an arabic word for very fine powder clay. The word got well known with the Paris Dakar race where riders really learn how miserable they can get riding in fech fech for hundreds of km.
Amazing. Thank you!
Love it 👊
Where can I find this route? No links seem to work. Any ideas?
Here ya go. thatmoto.app/tOKceYKsFJ
@ awesome. Any guidance on how I load into tma?
@@dirttv It's easier than that. Join TMA. Click subscribe in Kootenay CDR, route appear in your TMA Mobile App (iOS or Android). See TMA emails and/or social media for our early help documentation. We are working hard on making it all great, and intuitive. A big job for certain!
Excellent video. What are you using for your navigation and tracks?
Thanks! The tracks are from CanadaBDR.com. I use Sidecar to follow tracks. I used to use Gaia but Sidecar is better for showing and hiding tracks, and I like the easy zoom buttons. Oh, and we made Sidecar so I am super biased, but there is a reason that we made it! :)
Tnx Man for this Canada BDR, in EUs all Countries we have TET = BDR for free.
Love your travels and videos. What camera do you use when you are filming your ride? Is it a go pro?
Thanks! Yes, GoPro Hero 10 Black. Dango chin mount. Media mod with rear microphone activated. A bit heavy, but worth it!
Did you do the loop clockwise?
I did, yes.
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Yo! Thanks for the motorcycle offsetters tip. That’s awesome!
Cheers for Motorcycle Offsetters info. Never knew of them and just signed up.
I am glad you commented. I actually get some pretty negative comments / texts / messages when i post this type of content.
@@DirtChimps they are just trying to make you not look like an idiot, falling for PM blackface bullshit
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C’mon, looking cool is kind of important.
I think you need some new gloves :)
I just need big gloves with even bigger thumbs. I cut up another set of gloves today!