On top of that, and probably due to the continued popularity of Tangled, Disney made the decision to not kill off Rapunzel, which didn't provide The Witch with any emotional catharsis once the movie got to Last Midnight. Also, the deaths of Jack's Mother and the Baker's Wife weren't executed well enough, due to, I presume, the constraints of a PG rating (even though they kept the parts where the Stepmother cuts off the stepsisters' heels and toes, and then birds peck the stepsisters' eyes out 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️)
Both Into the Woods and Sweeney Todd share some problems when transitioned to screen especially with their kid characters. Both Red Riding Hood & Toby are often played by adolescents/adults. That changes a LOT of the meaning of what you see and the songs they sing. It's a conscious choice to make them children and it changes a lot of the vibe. I don't think Disney didn't get that about Into the Woods. I think they were purposely toning it down.
Ikr there was no comedic timing in that film- except for Chris Pine as the Prince he was kind of funny sometimes. The individual performances ranged from passable to great (I really liked Meryl Streep and Emily Blunt) but the pacing and cohesion was off especially without the narrator.
@@MadamoiselleSushiCat I just know the casting wouldn’t hold up to the original Broadway casting. Not saying the roles are untouchable, just that we’d see a bunch of names we don’t want to see.
I love hsm2 it's my favourite easily. I think hsm3 almost had too much budget - it feels way too long and they just shoved a bunch of filler stuff in to justify the big budget
I only want the wicked movie if they cast people that can actually really sing. If they cast big Hollywood names with kinda weak voices I’ll be so mad. Wicked is definitely popular enough that it can carry itself, they don’t need to go the stunt casting route.
I don't want the wicked movie... A pro shot would be better for me... Trying to cast the original cast members when they're at least 18 years older than when they started... No...
Wicked is my favorite musical of all time! I listened to the album for the thousandth time today! If Hollywood messed up the film version I’ve been dreaming of I will so not be pleased!😡😞
Seeing In the Heights solidified for the first time in my mind that a Wicked movie can work and be good. I *really* trust Jon M. Chu with the story and the spectacle.
This! Yes - seeing the magic realism gives me hope that he can capture some much needed Oz fantasy to help elevate the story to the screen. And the music sounded beautiful. (Hopefully, Wicked can get a better film pace though - because though I loved Into the Heights, there were a few moments that dragged. Not too badly, but a bit. Still miles ahead of other movie musicals though).
After watching Amanda Seyfried in Mamma Mia and Les Mis, I was actually hoping she'd be the next "Musical movie Queen", but for some reason, I haven't seen her play any other musical roles since
...I always had a thought of her being Nessarose for the Wicked film. Something about her face and voice lents me to believe she can capture that tragically beautiful look to her, but then turn around to be that ruthless dictator who stripped many people of their basic human rights. Idk if she'd still be appropriate by the time the film ever came into work though. She does, however, refuse to age - so maybe.
@@nicholasandrade363 I think she would be a PERFECT Nessarose! I'd love to see it! And honestly, she still looks like a teen, I bet she could easily get that role.
Ariana DeBose could definitely be the next Dorris Day. With West Side Story, The Prom, and Schmigadoon this Friday I have no doubt. Also she’s my top contender for Elphaba for the Wicked movie so we will see.
I was lowkey kind of sad when they canceled the Come From Away film adaptation because I wanted to see it as a movie, but it's probably for the best. I think they're making a live stage recording as they did with Hamilton to come out later this year, if I'm not mistaken
I would MUCH rather a pro shot of Wicked than a movie musical. A lot of what makes Wicked for me is the stage magic. The lights and ensemble and costuming i fear won't come across well in a movie. Also I could never understand why LA LA Land was so popular. I love a movie musical and love the actors in it but it fell really flat for me.
I feel personally attacked that Little Shop of Horrors was not put in the same place as Hairspray and Chicago. That movie WAS, IS and will ALWAYS be epic.
Probably because that one is already a classic. I thought she’s picked out Chicago and Hairspray because they’re newer and so they’re not generally considered among the “classic” lists even though they deserve to be.
I watched the Into the Woods movie without knowing anything about the original production and loved it, but damn, since I've heard, what it was actually was supposed to be like... Well, it's a hot mess. Still have soft spot for it tho.
Same. I love the film but only because I haven't seen the stage production. It has never come near me so I don't know when I will ever get to see it. But until that day I will continue enjoying the movie for what it is. Fun while apparently missing the entire point, lol.
@@pingidjit This goes for both of you, but there is a pro shot of the original Broadway cast that is on TH-cam! It's one of the musicals like Legally Blonde that has a proshot that is almost universally available. If you have the time, I would definitely recommend checking it out. Bernadette Peters is OUTSTANDING as the Witch and the entire production is fantastic
I didn't really like the movie (not that I disliked it but let's say it was forgetable for me). But I decided to give the original production a chance, as it is one of the few we can have in good quality in youtube. And I was surprised that it became one of my favourite musical immediately. I think the movie missed why it was so great when they adapted it.
I totally agree with you on the fact that third movie of High School Musical is the best. The musical numbers are immaculate and the high budget makes it so much better. And seeing the characters grow up and go through those senior struggles makes it feel nostalgic from when we first met them.
I think the reason it’s so great is that the director wrote and directed the original Hairspray movie (before it was a musical). So he was remaking and improving on his own work
I actually agree with La La Land. Sebastian came across as insufferable at best, his chemistry with Mia was limited, and I was relieved when it was revealed that they ultimately didn't end up together. They were a toxic couple, in my opinion.
I really am not sure how much a Wicked movie could ever really capture the magic of the stage show, especially if they end up casting big name celebs in the lead roles like rumors seem to suggest. It was the first musical I ever saw as a kid, and I kinda think it just belongs on the stage. That being said, I would probably (definitely) end up seeing it if a movie came out, even just out of curiosity. Love your videos so much!! I would love to see you talk about your opinions on Disney musicals :)
I think they have to go back to Gregory Maguire’s nobels to even get it to work. That would rule out family friendly, so it’s not going to happen, but it imo would be better than an adaptation of the stage show.
I would actually love more animated musical adaptations! There was an animatic of Wicked’s Defying Gravity that went viral several years ago and that made me think an animated version of Wicked would be really good at capturing the magic from the stage show
I like when a movie has some recorded singing and some live. Like “Still Hurting” in The Last Five Years movie was live I think and that worked really well, but some of the numbers (most of the numbers) from Les Mis would’ve sounded SO much better if they’d just prerecorded them. I think Into the Woods, The Last Five Years, and In the Heights all blended the live music with pre-recorded music pretty well.
I am WITH YOU on High School Musical 3!!! And omigod I was so scared that you were going to say you hated Hairspray and Chicago! You have no idea how relieved I am that you also think they're classics
When you started talking about Doris Day I was half expecting you to say James Corden would be the next Doris Day and then you actually talked about him
The only thing that offended me was you spelling out that it's been almost 20 years since Wicked debuted, which caused my elderly, brittle bones to disintegrate.
totally agree with what you said about the wicked movie - i think the reason the musical is so iconic is because of the amazing experience of seeing those elphabas and glindas singing their asses off live on stage, and while i also agree with you that actors shouldn't sing live in movie musicals, i don't think seeing someone lip sync to the wizard and i or defying gravity would have the same effect
You're absolutely spot on with movie musical trailers. And this has been an issue for years. Even Moulin Rogue (which had like one line sung in its trailer), Sweeney Todd (had the teeny tiniest bit of singing in its trailer), heck even friggin Phantom of the Opera (which is so blatantly gonna be a musical based on the title) the trailer was mostly just dialogue with some of the score in the background, and if there was singing it was just the odd line or two and thats it. It's like they're selling it based on "deep voiced whispered dialogue" to sound more "dramatic". It's strange.....
I LOVE the hsm trilogy and it made my childhood and I fully believe that the third one is the best, the songs, the plot, how amazing the characters look, it all 10/10!! And I will fully stand by my belief about HSM 3 and will argue it to my grave
My unpopular opinion, I know Amy will be mad at me but I loved all of the mamma Mia movies, I don’t know if it’s just the music or not but I love the casts and I love ABBA music so freaking much. My mums seen the stage version and has seen the movies and she loves them too.
I was sitting here getting worried about your opinion on Hairspray but then you were like best movie haha! Omg so true about the trailers for musicals hiding the fact that they’re musicals. Like for Into the Woods, funny enough, my aunt who hates musicals with a passion (I know 😳) took me to go see it but I hadn’t realized that she didn’t know it was a movie musical. The entire time she just kept whispering to me “why didn’t you tell me this was a musical? Why is this a musical? Oh my god I hate this”. I’m like dude calm down 😂😅
Actually, those two and Little Shop. Little Shop is overlooked but Skid Row alone is a cinematic masterpiece! And Steve Martin’s dentist is just perfection.
I completely agree about movie musical trailers. A lot of them don’t really seem to highlight the music in the trailers, which is weird. Which makes me really nervous for tick tick boom, because I love the soundtrack. So much.
I would love to know what you think of the new costume/set design of the new Wicked production in Germany. I am so excited to see a fresh take and it looks amazing imo
1. HSM3 is the best hands down. 2. I’m beyond stressed about the Wicked Movie cause I feel like it won’t have the right vibe. 3. I think heathers would be a great movie musical. With the new London songs (manly I SAY NO) 4. Hope your doing well ❤️
On the La La Land front, I think it's gotten lost in the narrative partly because of Dear Evan Hanson and Greatest Showman, but Pasek and Paul only wrote the lyrics for La La Land. Justin Hurwitz wrote the music. Hurwitz also wrote the score, which essentially echoes most of the songs so I suspect Pasek and Paul had to work within a certain blue print.
i agree with the hamilton one soo much, a movie wouldn't be as magical as the show. the dancing, the simplicity is what makes everything so majestic. can't imagine watching it as a normal movie with characters in different costumes and different settings and stuff
I get what you mean about singing live. I also wonder if singing live for multiple takes means even good singers sound worse than they are. I do have to say I Dreamed a Dream in the cinema felt incredibly raw and real to me and I think part of that was the live singing. (Although I may be alone in thinking that)
Sideways made great videos about why live singing is bad in movie musicals : one about Les Mis and one about Cats 2019 I honestly recommend them (his video about Into the Woods was great too, also snugboy's video is a great explanation as to why the movie doesn't work). BTW I'm still going through your videos, have you ever watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ? It's a great musical TV show about mental health and systemic sexism even if you wanna hit the main characters for a while XD I generally think before adapting musicals as a movie they should release pro recording of the musicals themselves and only adapt those that would make sense as a movie. Like Rodgers&Hammerstein's cinderella is a good example (granted it was a telefilm first) but the 1997 version is fairly different from the stage version. They only kept the fairy tale angle and ran with it 100%. And while I love the stage version, the movie is one of my favorite cinderella adaptations ever. Like Hairspray and Chicago (and even LSofH tho I haven't seen it in a while so I feel less confident about it), they used the movie format to their advantage instead of trying to adapt the show in spite of it which is probably the biggest problem most of the time.
AMY!! I’m so glad you made the point about the volume and sound mix in La La Land. 100% agree with you. I love the movie, but since day 1, I’ve thought the sound mix was SO OFF! Another Day of Sun needed to vibrate through the cinema and blow everyone away, but instead it just kinda.. played quietly?
Pasek and Paul only did the lyrics for La La Land. Justin Hurwitz wrote the music. I think the first two songs are good but after that the story doesn’t really need music
Me when I first watched the Into the Woods proshot: “I didn’t like that- except for Agony” Theatre kids watching the Into the Woods movie: “I didn’t like that- except for Agony”
I do think a Wicked movie could actually really work. But what production companies need to let go is the A-list celebrity. It's better to have a big name Broadway star (or even an up and coming singer) to portray the roles than to throw a lot of money on an A-list actor, who might be able to sing, but maybe not even. Like for example, I love Emma Watson and her acting was good, but her singing in Beauty and the Beast just didn't cut it for me. Where I do think the movie could match or even improve the musical version is in the stage design. I don't remember much about Oz, the Great and Powerful, because it just didn't stick, but what I did remember is the amazing settings and even the SFX to create Oz. Similarly to that, they could make magic in the design of their settings for Wicked.
La la land is my all time fav film omggg it’s just so perfect! Ryan learnt the piano for the role! Damien Chazelle is an insanely talented director and having done lots of research into it for college you really see how he was inspired and how clever it really is! Also to meet Emma stone is the top of my bucket list so if anyone knows how to make that happen, let me know 😂
Amy (and anybody who wants to answer) what is your opinion on the Moulin Rouge movie musical? I absolutely love it, it is one of my favourites and Come What May is a very special song to me.
My unpopular opinion-Sharpay, while a hilarious character is absolutely a villain. She sabotages not one but two competitions over the three films. Remember, Troy and Gabriella just got the callback for being late, Sharpay just didn’t want competition which is why she messed with the callback. True villain behavior. Not to mention how she treated Ryan. She’s a good villain, but a villain nonetheless
I totally agree. I love Sharpay but she was still a villain for me. She tried to stop them from auditioning just because she did not want competition, that's not something a hero does.
OMG I couldn't agree more with you when you talked about High School Musical 3!!! Scream is probably my favorite song from any Disney Channel Original movie, it's just so good!!! 😍
I didn't know where to post this so I put it here. I know musical stuff is your thing, but if you ever wanted to do a non-musical, I have a couple suggestions for you. There is Tin Can Bros Wayward Guide . . . (not a musical, but has familiar StarKid faces in it and is pretty good); Tin Cans Solve-It Squad Returns (essentially Scooby Doo gang in the future and is not a musical, but does have an opening musical number with a few StarKids and Brian Rosenthal being amazing as an entire supporting cast); and Shipwrecked Comedy's Edgar Allan Poe's Murder Mystery Invite Only Casual Dinner Party/Gala For Friends Potluck (not a musical, but has a couple familiar StarKid faces in a Clue-inspired story focusing on authors as the characters). Then there is a web series called World's Worst Musical which features some StarKid favorites in musical episodes. Hope that helps. I thought you would like to know. Love your reactions. 🙂
i discovered Stephen Sondheim through the into the woods movie, i went down a rabbit hole and fell in love with sweeney todd and assassins and (the better version of into the woods) don't tell movie into the woods tho hehe... so i commend the movie for finding me new things to love :#)
I agree with everything you said!!! Chicago is the best movie musical of all time ISWIS!! As far as Wicked, i think an animated movie would be so cool, but not irl
I love this video because it turns out that you and I have almost all the same unpopular opinions 😆 Into the Woods is my top favorite musical and I was SO disappointed by the movie. Out of everything wrong with it, the thing that disappointed me most was that they didn’t bother to expand the scenes described in some of the songs. I mean, so much of what happens in the show is only described through song. On stage, the limitations make sense, but part of the advantage of adapting a show into a movie is that there are far fewer limitations on scenery, special effects, etc. Like, Giants in the Sky, instead of just having Jack on screen for entire song, maybe actually show the scenes that the lyrics are describing?? You go the entire first act without even showing montage/snippets of the Prince’s grand festival??? Then why did you even bother adapting???? I could’ve just rewatched the filmed Broadway production!! I was super disappointed in the Les Mis movie, too, what with the live singing and lousy casting, but the one thing they got right was capitalizing on the opportunity to portray the scope of the scenery and events (ie: the suffering of the chain gang, the gorgeous French countryside, etc) that can only be alluded to/implied on stage.
With trailers what I'd like to see are things like what 'In the Heights' did or possibly have a regular trailer that shows scenes from the movie underscored by an instrumental arrangement of one of the most popular or groups numbers, wherein the last few seconds it shows the whole cast singing and/or dancing. Unpopular opinions: 1. Tom Hooper should never be allowed to direct a movie musical again. 2. There needs to be a musicologist or a vocal director who can not be fired for telling the director how musicals work. 3. No more stuffing an original song in for an Emmy. I get that you want another award nomination, but it is coming at the emotional core and pacing of the show. (I'm looking at you live-action Disney and 'Cats'.)
since a bunch of movies have been made into musicals recently, I'm curious what movies you think would make a good stage musical? I think Coneheads & Wayne's World would be so much fun; also I always wanted a Devil Wears Prada musical, & now they're making one, with music by Elton John! so I'm excited about that. and since Carrie worked so well, I would love a Stepford Wives musical.
Amy, I completely agree with your opinions on the Into the Woods movie and trailers for movie musicals! With Into the Woods, I felt that Disney kind of dropped the ball on how the film could successfully be adapted, because that hindered the tonal shift that occurs in the second half of the story (of course, most films that are made nowadays utilize a three-act plot structure, but musicals that are adapted to film sometimes don't have that luxury to easily translate from a two-act plot structure to a three-act plot structure.) And with movie musical trailers, there have definitely been some strong ones over the last decade (the many In the Heights trailers come to mind, as they perfectly captured what the movie was gonna be like, and they also weren't shy to make it clear that it was a musical with singing and dancing), but there have also been some poor trailers too (You Will Be Found was used as the overarching theme for the Dear Evan Hansen trailer, but seeing Ben Platt singing for maybe five seconds in the trailer doesn't translate to a film that will be chock full of songs when it's released ~ same goes for the tick, tick...BOOM! trailer as well, and that’s a Jonathan Larson piece, so you know there's gonna be a lot of music!)
fully agree with everything you said EXCEPT HSM3 being better. everyone's on holiday, in the sun, living their best lives in the second one. that's what makes it great for me!
Yes Amy......Hairspray 💗- I AGREEE I also agree about ur trailer comment. To me all the ad should say is "This is a musical" and I'd go see it. I honestly saw the 'Dear Evan Hanson' trailer n thought they'd made it straight. I actually had to research it after to check if it was a musical, n that irritates me.
Yesssssss. I was scared as to what was going to come next when you mentioned Hairspray and Chicago XD I genuinely enjoy those. I rewatched Hairspray a ton after it came out. The remake anyway, I could not get into the original @.@ I'm here for these opinions. I feel validated lol I want to add something. I dunno if this is unpopular or not. I would really like more recordings of musicals. I have seen a handful in person, but there are a TON I've missed. I will happily pay money to just be able to watch the damn performances and not some bootleg recording @.@ Like, Shrek has done it. Hamilton has done it. I will always prefer being physically there to watching a recording, but I'll take a recording over missing out entirely ya know? It just bothers me that it feels kind of like...exclusive. Oh well, if ya didn't catch the show during these specific years, guess you're shit out of luck unless it comes back around to MAYBE have a chance to go see it. Come on man...
After I saw In the Heights I was telling my husband that I was so glad that we have a Hamilton pro shot not a movie. I thought In the Heights was great, but I really don't think that Hamilton would transfer very well. Part of what makes it great is the way it was written and staged to work as a stage musical. I just think a lot of the magic would be lost on film.
I remember watching Nine in the movie theater.. plently of awesome actors. As soon as "la la la" begun, people just left the place. Guess there was quite some misleading there. People don't even know what they're getitng into? tickets are expensive!
I remember going to see the The Last Five Years at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2014 and it was fan-fricken-tastic. Truly changed my hopes for the future of movie musicals. The storytelling from stage to screen was so well done.
Oh my god I was talking to my boyfriend the other day about Hamilton movie and I said the exact same thing! It just wouldn't work as a film in my opinion. King George III's sass wouldn't translate!
You are SO right about the Into The Woods movie! I've said elsewhere that some musicals, like Into The Woods and Wicked, would be better off adapted in two installments. Perhaps Into The Woods would have been a long shot since it's not as well known outside of theatre fandom, but they could totally do it with Wicked!
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film companies need to realise that we want pro shot musicals rather than movie adaptations!!
THIS COMMENT JUST WON COMMENT OF THE CENTURY!! 🏆 Seriously though, we NEED more pro shots 😭
I want both😂 just give me all the musicals please
Yes I want that! I can't see the musical live, and pro shot are my daydream. A movie is nice but it is not the same.
Proshots are everything
It's not usually film companies that are the obstacle but unions that protect the artists and their work. They're coming around to figuring it out.
I feel like Disney just did not understand Into the Woods at all - they cut half the jokes and played too many of them too seriously
On top of that, and probably due to the continued popularity of Tangled, Disney made the decision to not kill off Rapunzel, which didn't provide The Witch with any emotional catharsis once the movie got to Last Midnight. Also, the deaths of Jack's Mother and the Baker's Wife weren't executed well enough, due to, I presume, the constraints of a PG rating (even though they kept the parts where the Stepmother cuts off the stepsisters' heels and toes, and then birds peck the stepsisters' eyes out 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️)
Both Into the Woods and Sweeney Todd share some problems when transitioned to screen especially with their kid characters. Both Red Riding Hood & Toby are often played by adolescents/adults. That changes a LOT of the meaning of what you see and the songs they sing. It's a conscious choice to make them children and it changes a lot of the vibe. I don't think Disney didn't get that about Into the Woods. I think they were purposely toning it down.
Ikr there was no comedic timing in that film- except for Chris Pine as the Prince he was kind of funny sometimes. The individual performances ranged from passable to great (I really liked Meryl Streep and Emily Blunt) but the pacing and cohesion was off especially without the narrator.
they even cut the narrator.... I love the narrator 😕
I agree that the Hamilton pro shot is better than an actual movie version. I don't want a full on movie
100%
It would be weird as a film
I’m split-I know the movie would look so corny but I also know satisfied would be absolutely stunning
@@MadamoiselleSushiCat I just know the casting wouldn’t hold up to the original Broadway casting. Not saying the roles are untouchable, just that we’d see a bunch of names we don’t want to see.
okay, but imagine how amazing hsm2 would be if it had hsm3's budget...
oh my that would’ve just blown all the others out the water
I love hsm2 it's my favourite easily. I think hsm3 almost had too much budget - it feels way too long and they just shoved a bunch of filler stuff in to justify the big budget
Hairspray and Chicago were classics as soon as they were released!
I only want the wicked movie if they cast people that can actually really sing. If they cast big Hollywood names with kinda weak voices I’ll be so mad. Wicked is definitely popular enough that it can carry itself, they don’t need to go the stunt casting route.
I don't want the wicked movie... A pro shot would be better for me... Trying to cast the original cast members when they're at least 18 years older than when they started... No...
Wicked is my favorite musical of all time! I listened to the album for the thousandth time today!
If Hollywood messed up the film version I’ve been dreaming of I will so not be pleased!😡😞
honestly they've got some great singers most of the time, usually it's the directing that was problematic.
Seeing this comment after the casting and I think they found the perfect mix of stunt casting and talent with Ariana as Glinda.
Seeing In the Heights solidified for the first time in my mind that a Wicked movie can work and be good. I *really* trust Jon M. Chu with the story and the spectacle.
This! Yes - seeing the magic realism gives me hope that he can capture some much needed Oz fantasy to help elevate the story to the screen. And the music sounded beautiful. (Hopefully, Wicked can get a better film pace though - because though I loved Into the Heights, there were a few moments that dragged. Not too badly, but a bit. Still miles ahead of other movie musicals though).
I think the closest thing we have to Doris Day right now is Meryl Streep???
After watching Amanda Seyfried in Mamma Mia and Les Mis, I was actually hoping she'd be the next "Musical movie Queen", but for some reason, I haven't seen her play any other musical roles since
...I always had a thought of her being Nessarose for the Wicked film. Something about her face and voice lents me to believe she can capture that tragically beautiful look to her, but then turn around to be that ruthless dictator who stripped many people of their basic human rights. Idk if she'd still be appropriate by the time the film ever came into work though. She does, however, refuse to age - so maybe.
I LOVE Amanda, but she's been in so many great roles outside of movie musicals and seems to be in high demand. Maybe that's why she hasnt done more.
@@nicholasandrade363 I think she would be a PERFECT Nessarose! I'd love to see it! And honestly, she still looks like a teen, I bet she could easily get that role.
Part of it might be her vocal range. She sounds to be a very high soprano and most modern musicals tend a little lower.
YES!!!!!!! FINALLY, SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT!!!!! Disney should NOT have been the ones to adapt Into The Woods. Thank you for preaching the truth Queen!
Ariana DeBose could definitely be the next Dorris Day. With West Side Story, The Prom, and Schmigadoon this Friday I have no doubt. Also she’s my top contender for Elphaba for the Wicked movie so we will see.
And don't forget 'Hamilton' the stage recording as lead ensemble 'The Bullet'.
@@jacquiroope1020 omg yes!! Dance skills for days!!!!
Ariana DeBose needs to play Elphaba in the Wicked film adaptation with Dove Cameron as Glinda and Jordan Fisher as Fiyero
@@everettbaxter5327 agreeed
@@everettbaxter5327 I'd watch that. 👍🏼
I was lowkey kind of sad when they canceled the Come From Away film adaptation because I wanted to see it as a movie, but it's probably for the best. I think they're making a live stage recording as they did with Hamilton to come out later this year, if I'm not mistaken
Out in September
I totally agree with you about Chicago! Last Five Years is also a great adaptation
Last Five Years is one of my faves ❤️
I would MUCH rather a pro shot of Wicked than a movie musical. A lot of what makes Wicked for me is the stage magic. The lights and ensemble and costuming i fear won't come across well in a movie. Also I could never understand why LA LA Land was so popular. I love a movie musical and love the actors in it but it fell really flat for me.
Are we still getting a part 2 to the judging our theatre opinions ? One of my fav videos that you do !!
I deleted the footage for the video by accident! I do still have the opinions on my phone so I might try and refilm it ♥️
@@AmyLovatt1 oh no!! No worries, great video as always :))
@@AmyLovatt1 where oh where did you get that wonderful shirt??
I feel personally attacked that Little Shop of Horrors was not put in the same place as Hairspray and Chicago. That movie WAS, IS and will ALWAYS be epic.
LEGIT
Probably because that one is already a classic. I thought she’s picked out Chicago and Hairspray because they’re newer and so they’re not generally considered among the “classic” lists even though they deserve to be.
Facts only
I watched the Into the Woods movie without knowing anything about the original production and loved it, but damn, since I've heard, what it was actually was supposed to be like... Well, it's a hot mess. Still have soft spot for it tho.
Same. I love the film but only because I haven't seen the stage production. It has never come near me so I don't know when I will ever get to see it. But until that day I will continue enjoying the movie for what it is. Fun while apparently missing the entire point, lol.
@@pingidjit This goes for both of you, but there is a pro shot of the original Broadway cast that is on TH-cam! It's one of the musicals like Legally Blonde that has a proshot that is almost universally available. If you have the time, I would definitely recommend checking it out. Bernadette Peters is OUTSTANDING as the Witch and the entire production is fantastic
@@jamiehood850 well I do enjoy me some Bernadette Peters!
yep this goes for me as well. I loved it until I saw anything about the original haha
I didn't really like the movie (not that I disliked it but let's say it was forgetable for me). But I decided to give the original production a chance, as it is one of the few we can have in good quality in youtube. And I was surprised that it became one of my favourite musical immediately. I think the movie missed why it was so great when they adapted it.
I totally agree with you on the fact that third movie of High School Musical is the best. The musical numbers are immaculate and the high budget makes it so much better. And seeing the characters grow up and go through those senior struggles makes it feel nostalgic from when we first met them.
HAIRSPRAY IS *AMAZING*
THANK YOU
Preach, it's one of my favourite musicals of all time!
I think the reason it’s so great is that the director wrote and directed the original Hairspray movie (before it was a musical). So he was remaking and improving on his own work
I actually agree with La La Land. Sebastian came across as insufferable at best, his chemistry with Mia was limited, and I was relieved when it was revealed that they ultimately didn't end up together. They were a toxic couple, in my opinion.
I agree, and I just did not care about them as characters or their relationship at all
I really am not sure how much a Wicked movie could ever really capture the magic of the stage show, especially if they end up casting big name celebs in the lead roles like rumors seem to suggest. It was the first musical I ever saw as a kid, and I kinda think it just belongs on the stage. That being said, I would probably (definitely) end up seeing it if a movie came out, even just out of curiosity.
Love your videos so much!! I would love to see you talk about your opinions on Disney musicals :)
I 100% agree. I cannot imagine songs like defying gravity in a movie form
I think they have to go back to Gregory Maguire’s nobels to even get it to work. That would rule out family friendly, so it’s not going to happen, but it imo would be better than an adaptation of the stage show.
It would be great as an animation!
Omgomg sweeney todd is one of my favourite films ever 🥲🥲
And HSM 3 is the absolute worst one IMO oh no oh no
I love sweeney Todd hehe ❤
Very much here for the Doris day appreciation
same
@@velvetgh0st no no no HSM3 is by far the superior HSM
I would actually love more animated musical adaptations! There was an animatic of Wicked’s Defying Gravity that went viral several years ago and that made me think an animated version of Wicked would be really good at capturing the magic from the stage show
I like when a movie has some recorded singing and some live. Like “Still Hurting” in The Last Five Years movie was live I think and that worked really well, but some of the numbers (most of the numbers) from Les Mis would’ve sounded SO much better if they’d just prerecorded them. I think Into the Woods, The Last Five Years, and In the Heights all blended the live music with pre-recorded music pretty well.
Honestly, I would just be happy with a Wicked pro shot. I'm really scared for that movie.
would love to see a Jukebox musical unpopular opinions.
Haha eugene jumping on the floor at 5:45 made me laugh so hard. I looked away for a sec and was like wtf was that
I agree with Hamilton, I have NO idea how it would even work as a movie
I am WITH YOU on High School Musical 3!!! And omigod I was so scared that you were going to say you hated Hairspray and Chicago! You have no idea how relieved I am that you also think they're classics
When you started talking about Doris Day I was half expecting you to say James Corden would be the next Doris Day and then you actually talked about him
I have been saying this about Hairspray for *years* ! It's. A. Classic.
The only thing that offended me was you spelling out that it's been almost 20 years since Wicked debuted, which caused my elderly, brittle bones to disintegrate.
totally agree with what you said about the wicked movie - i think the reason the musical is so iconic is because of the amazing experience of seeing those elphabas and glindas singing their asses off live on stage, and while i also agree with you that actors shouldn't sing live in movie musicals, i don't think seeing someone lip sync to the wizard and i or defying gravity would have the same effect
You're absolutely spot on with movie musical trailers. And this has been an issue for years. Even Moulin Rogue (which had like one line sung in its trailer), Sweeney Todd (had the teeny tiniest bit of singing in its trailer), heck even friggin Phantom of the Opera (which is so blatantly gonna be a musical based on the title) the trailer was mostly just dialogue with some of the score in the background, and if there was singing it was just the odd line or two and thats it. It's like they're selling it based on "deep voiced whispered dialogue" to sound more "dramatic". It's strange.....
😆😆I love when you say "High School Musical- Trilogy " it obviously is, but sounds so epic with the word 'trilogy' attached. ❤Love your commentaries!
I LOVE the hsm trilogy and it made my childhood and I fully believe that the third one is the best, the songs, the plot, how amazing the characters look, it all 10/10!! And I will fully stand by my belief about HSM 3 and will argue it to my grave
YESS! I DON'T WANT A HAMILTON MOVIE EITHER!!
My heart was pounding when you said bout hairspray cos I thought you were gonna say it was bad🤣🤣 one of my faves
The one about movie musical trailers is SO TRUE!!
I’m halfway through and so far I’m on board with aaaaaall of this.
My unpopular opinion, I know Amy will be mad at me but I loved all of the mamma Mia movies, I don’t know if it’s just the music or not but I love the casts and I love ABBA music so freaking much. My mums seen the stage version and has seen the movies and she loves them too.
2 of my favorite movie musicals of all time
„The Prom“ better be on this list. And „Rent“. I really want to know your opinions on these two.
I was sitting here getting worried about your opinion on Hairspray but then you were like best movie haha! Omg so true about the trailers for musicals hiding the fact that they’re musicals. Like for Into the Woods, funny enough, my aunt who hates musicals with a passion (I know 😳) took me to go see it but I hadn’t realized that she didn’t know it was a movie musical. The entire time she just kept whispering to me “why didn’t you tell me this was a musical? Why is this a musical? Oh my god I hate this”. I’m like dude calm down 😂😅
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YAY! Hairspray was my life in 7th grade ❤️ love the songs literally everything about it!! I agree with you 💯
Amy: these are my unpopular opinions
Me: *agrees with almost every single one*
Omg Hairspray & Chicago are my favourites - was so worried when you mentioned them that it wouldn’t be a good thing! They’re the BEST.
Actually, those two and Little Shop. Little Shop is overlooked but Skid Row alone is a cinematic masterpiece! And Steve Martin’s dentist is just perfection.
I completely agree about movie musical trailers. A lot of them don’t really seem to highlight the music in the trailers, which is weird. Which makes me really nervous for tick tick boom, because I love the soundtrack. So much.
I would love to know what you think of the new costume/set design of the new Wicked production in Germany. I am so excited to see a fresh take and it looks amazing imo
Amy: My unpopular movie musical opinions.
Me: Wow I feel same way about most of what she said.
Maybe not so unpopular.
I don't know if it is unpopular but sometimes people just not dare to criticize something so people think this is unpopular.
1. HSM3 is the best hands down.
2. I’m beyond stressed about the Wicked Movie cause I feel like it won’t have the right vibe.
3. I think heathers would be a great movie musical. With the new London songs (manly I SAY NO)
4. Hope your doing well ❤️
On the La La Land front, I think it's gotten lost in the narrative partly because of Dear Evan Hanson and Greatest Showman, but Pasek and Paul only wrote the lyrics for La La Land. Justin Hurwitz wrote the music. Hurwitz also wrote the score, which essentially echoes most of the songs so I suspect Pasek and Paul had to work within a certain blue print.
i agree with the hamilton one soo much, a movie wouldn't be as magical as the show. the dancing, the simplicity is what makes everything so majestic. can't imagine watching it as a normal movie with characters in different costumes and different settings and stuff
I get what you mean about singing live. I also wonder if singing live for multiple takes means even good singers sound worse than they are. I do have to say I Dreamed a Dream in the cinema felt incredibly raw and real to me and I think part of that was the live singing. (Although I may be alone in thinking that)
Hairspray is not only my favorite movie musical it’s genuinely one of my favorite movies. I grew up with it and it’ll always be one of my faves❤️
Sideways made great videos about why live singing is bad in movie musicals : one about Les Mis and one about Cats 2019 I honestly recommend them (his video about Into the Woods was great too, also snugboy's video is a great explanation as to why the movie doesn't work).
BTW I'm still going through your videos, have you ever watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ? It's a great musical TV show about mental health and systemic sexism even if you wanna hit the main characters for a while XD
I generally think before adapting musicals as a movie they should release pro recording of the musicals themselves and only adapt those that would make sense as a movie.
Like Rodgers&Hammerstein's cinderella is a good example (granted it was a telefilm first) but the 1997 version is fairly different from the stage version. They only kept the fairy tale angle and ran with it 100%. And while I love the stage version, the movie is one of my favorite cinderella adaptations ever.
Like Hairspray and Chicago (and even LSofH tho I haven't seen it in a while so I feel less confident about it), they used the movie format to their advantage instead of trying to adapt the show in spite of it which is probably the biggest problem most of the time.
AMY!! I’m so glad you made the point about the volume and sound mix in La La Land. 100% agree with you. I love the movie, but since day 1, I’ve thought the sound mix was SO OFF! Another Day of Sun needed to vibrate through the cinema and blow everyone away, but instead it just kinda.. played quietly?
Unrelated but your shirt is really cool
Pasek and Paul only did the lyrics for La La Land. Justin Hurwitz wrote the music. I think the first two songs are good but after that the story doesn’t really need music
I have to turn the volume up for la la land when they sing next minute there talking and I have to turn it down again aha
Me when I first watched the Into the Woods proshot: “I didn’t like that- except for Agony”
Theatre kids watching the Into the Woods movie: “I didn’t like that- except for Agony”
I do think a Wicked movie could actually really work. But what production companies need to let go is the A-list celebrity. It's better to have a big name Broadway star (or even an up and coming singer) to portray the roles than to throw a lot of money on an A-list actor, who might be able to sing, but maybe not even. Like for example, I love Emma Watson and her acting was good, but her singing in Beauty and the Beast just didn't cut it for me. Where I do think the movie could match or even improve the musical version is in the stage design. I don't remember much about Oz, the Great and Powerful, because it just didn't stick, but what I did remember is the amazing settings and even the SFX to create Oz. Similarly to that, they could make magic in the design of their settings for Wicked.
Wicked deserves a high quality pro shot
Dropped everything to come watch this 💗
(Love ur shirt btw)
La la land is my all time fav film omggg it’s just so perfect! Ryan learnt the piano for the role! Damien Chazelle is an insanely talented director and having done lots of research into it for college you really see how he was inspired and how clever it really is! Also to meet Emma stone is the top of my bucket list so if anyone knows how to make that happen, let me know 😂
I loveeeeee your shirt!!
haven't seen it yet but i'm sooo happy that you are getting sponsors, i love your content and i think you pretty much deserve it ❤️
Amy (and anybody who wants to answer) what is your opinion on the Moulin Rouge movie musical? I absolutely love it, it is one of my favourites and Come What May is a very special song to me.
It is literally one of my favourite films of all time!
love to see a new Amy upload!!! If you're thinking of new video ideas I'm sure we'd all love a life update!
I thought you were about to bad mouth Hairspray and was ready to start a fight! lol :) definitely one of the very best top tier movie musicals!
into the woods the movie was a crime like why is it a serious film and WHERE is agony reprise
100% agree with the into the woods film!!!!
My unpopular opinion-Sharpay, while a hilarious character is absolutely a villain. She sabotages not one but two competitions over the three films. Remember, Troy and Gabriella just got the callback for being late, Sharpay just didn’t want competition which is why she messed with the callback. True villain behavior. Not to mention how she treated Ryan. She’s a good villain, but a villain nonetheless
I totally agree. I love Sharpay but she was still a villain for me. She tried to stop them from auditioning just because she did not want competition, that's not something a hero does.
I COMPLETELY agree that High School Musical 3 is the best one! But I also love Grease 2, so take that as you may :).
OMG I couldn't agree more with you when you talked about High School Musical 3!!! Scream is probably my favorite song from any Disney Channel Original movie, it's just so good!!! 😍
I didn't know where to post this so I put it here. I know musical stuff is your thing, but if you ever wanted to do a non-musical, I have a couple suggestions for you. There is Tin Can Bros Wayward Guide . . . (not a musical, but has familiar StarKid faces in it and is pretty good); Tin Cans Solve-It Squad Returns (essentially Scooby Doo gang in the future and is not a musical, but does have an opening musical number with a few StarKids and Brian Rosenthal being amazing as an entire supporting cast); and Shipwrecked Comedy's Edgar Allan Poe's Murder Mystery Invite Only Casual Dinner Party/Gala For Friends Potluck (not a musical, but has a couple familiar StarKid faces in a Clue-inspired story focusing on authors as the characters). Then there is a web series called World's Worst Musical which features some StarKid favorites in musical episodes. Hope that helps. I thought you would like to know. Love your reactions. 🙂
I was about to throw hands when you said you didn't like into the woods but when you specified the movie I FULLY agree
WHO SAYS THE 2ND HSM IS THE BEST?! The 3rd one is sooo much better!
i discovered Stephen Sondheim through the into the woods movie, i went down a rabbit hole and fell in love with sweeney todd and assassins and (the better version of into the woods) don't tell movie into the woods tho hehe... so i commend the movie for finding me new things to love :#)
Can we also just mention how much Amy is rocking that shirt!
Ironically this video made me wanna go watch high school musical 2. Im off from work today and I'm not feeling great so it's kinda the perfect time?
I agree with everything you said!!! Chicago is the best movie musical of all time ISWIS!! As far as Wicked, i think an animated movie would be so cool, but not irl
Even though I don't mind live singing in movie musicals, I actually agree with most of your other opinions! 😁
I LOVE THE 3RD HSM!!!
The Prom song is soooooo good
Can’t wait for the wicked movie with James cordon triple cast as elphaba Glinda and the wizard 🤩
I love this video because it turns out that you and I have almost all the same unpopular opinions 😆
Into the Woods is my top favorite musical and I was SO disappointed by the movie. Out of everything wrong with it, the thing that disappointed me most was that they didn’t bother to expand the scenes described in some of the songs. I mean, so much of what happens in the show is only described through song. On stage, the limitations make sense, but part of the advantage of adapting a show into a movie is that there are far fewer limitations on scenery, special effects, etc. Like, Giants in the Sky, instead of just having Jack on screen for entire song, maybe actually show the scenes that the lyrics are describing?? You go the entire first act without even showing montage/snippets of the Prince’s grand festival??? Then why did you even bother adapting???? I could’ve just rewatched the filmed Broadway production!!
I was super disappointed in the Les Mis movie, too, what with the live singing and lousy casting, but the one thing they got right was capitalizing on the opportunity to portray the scope of the scenery and events (ie: the suffering of the chain gang, the gorgeous French countryside, etc) that can only be alluded to/implied on stage.
With trailers what I'd like to see are things like what 'In the Heights' did or possibly have a regular trailer that shows scenes from the movie underscored by an instrumental arrangement of one of the most popular or groups numbers, wherein the last few seconds it shows the whole cast singing and/or dancing.
Unpopular opinions: 1. Tom Hooper should never be allowed to direct a movie musical again. 2. There needs to be a musicologist or a vocal director who can not be fired for telling the director how musicals work. 3. No more stuffing an original song in for an Emmy. I get that you want another award nomination, but it is coming at the emotional core and pacing of the show. (I'm looking at you live-action Disney and 'Cats'.)
I just don’t want stage musicals made into movie musicals. Just gimme filmed stage productions, they’re always better.
since a bunch of movies have been made into musicals recently, I'm curious what movies you think would make a good stage musical? I think Coneheads & Wayne's World would be so much fun; also I always wanted a Devil Wears Prada musical, & now they're making one, with music by Elton John! so I'm excited about that. and since Carrie worked so well, I would love a Stepford Wives musical.
Maybe "Ferris Bueller's day off"? I can see it becoming a musical.
Amy, I completely agree with your opinions on the Into the Woods movie and trailers for movie musicals!
With Into the Woods, I felt that Disney kind of dropped the ball on how the film could successfully be adapted, because that hindered the tonal shift that occurs in the second half of the story (of course, most films that are made nowadays utilize a three-act plot structure, but musicals that are adapted to film sometimes don't have that luxury to easily translate from a two-act plot structure to a three-act plot structure.)
And with movie musical trailers, there have definitely been some strong ones over the last decade (the many In the Heights trailers come to mind, as they perfectly captured what the movie was gonna be like, and they also weren't shy to make it clear that it was a musical with singing and dancing), but there have also been some poor trailers too (You Will Be Found was used as the overarching theme for the Dear Evan Hansen trailer, but seeing Ben Platt singing for maybe five seconds in the trailer doesn't translate to a film that will be chock full of songs when it's released ~ same goes for the tick, tick...BOOM! trailer as well, and that’s a Jonathan Larson piece, so you know there's gonna be a lot of music!)
fully agree with everything you said EXCEPT HSM3 being better. everyone's on holiday, in the sun, living their best lives in the second one. that's what makes it great for me!
Yes Amy......Hairspray 💗- I AGREEE
I also agree about ur trailer comment. To me all the ad should say is "This is a musical" and I'd go see it. I honestly saw the 'Dear Evan Hanson' trailer n thought they'd made it straight. I actually had to research it after to check if it was a musical, n that irritates me.
my favorite movie musicals are easily Rent, Across The Universe & Mamma Mia
Yesssssss. I was scared as to what was going to come next when you mentioned Hairspray and Chicago XD
I genuinely enjoy those. I rewatched Hairspray a ton after it came out. The remake anyway, I could not get into
the original @.@
I'm here for these opinions. I feel validated lol
I want to add something. I dunno if this is unpopular or not. I would really like more recordings of musicals. I have seen a handful in person, but there are a TON I've missed.
I will happily pay money to just be able to watch the damn performances and not some bootleg recording @.@ Like, Shrek has done it. Hamilton has done it. I will always prefer being physically there to watching a recording, but I'll take a recording over missing out entirely ya know? It just bothers me that it feels kind of like...exclusive. Oh well, if ya didn't catch the show during these specific years, guess you're shit out of luck unless it comes back around to MAYBE have a chance to go see it. Come on man...
After I saw In the Heights I was telling my husband that I was so glad that we have a Hamilton pro shot not a movie. I thought In the Heights was great, but I really don't think that Hamilton would transfer very well. Part of what makes it great is the way it was written and staged to work as a stage musical. I just think a lot of the magic would be lost on film.
I remember watching Nine in the movie theater.. plently of awesome actors. As soon as "la la la" begun, people just left the place. Guess there was quite some misleading there. People don't even know what they're getitng into? tickets are expensive!
I remember going to see the The Last Five Years at the Toronto International Film Festival in 2014 and it was fan-fricken-tastic. Truly changed my hopes for the future of movie musicals. The storytelling from stage to screen was so well done.
I 100% agree with you about Into The Woods!
Oh my god I was talking to my boyfriend the other day about Hamilton movie and I said the exact same thing! It just wouldn't work as a film in my opinion. King George III's sass wouldn't translate!
You are SO right about the Into The Woods movie! I've said elsewhere that some musicals, like Into The Woods and Wicked, would be better off adapted in two installments. Perhaps Into The Woods would have been a long shot since it's not as well known outside of theatre fandom, but they could totally do it with Wicked!