One significant problem I forgot to mention in the video, especially present in the Tanjung Priok, Cikarang, and Rangkasbitung Lines is that some platforms are too short meaning if you're in the wrong car, you could miss your station. The Integration with other modes and land use surrounding the stations also deserves its own video, actually most lines deserve a 5-10 minute in depth explanation video. This tier list video is really just the basics from a passenger perspective.
@@shindoride Also mind blowing that the only one that have decided to make content like this is not a Jakartan but a Serpong-ers like me (I'm from LK) lmao. I honestly hope Tangerang will start getting their shit together and actually build infrastructure. Practically all of our "better" infrastructure from transit to roads are privately owned, build, or operated. Crazy despite the whole of Tangerang has more people than Bekasi or even Central Bandung and Surabaya!
I think its because we're so transit depraved, even just regular buses seem interesting. Here in Gading Serpong, one developer built a lot of bus stops but provides no service, the other one runs their buses every 2-4 hours.
Ah yes, Rangkasbitung Line. From Tanah Abang with crowded transfer passenger, Palmerah and kebayoran with good integration, Pondok Ranji and Sudimara with decent station but very bad access, Jurangmangu and Cisauk with good TOD in the middle of car centric suburbia, Rawabuntu with strategic location yet humble Angkot connection (AFAIK), Serpong with narrow as hell platform, many stations in the rural areas that become target of greedy land speculant and developer, Rangkasbitung that need new building ASAP, and Tenjo with goofy ahh short platform and rail crossing on the road.
@@shindoride The ridiculous thing about Tenjo station is not just about the short platform, but the reason why it's still short platform till today. There is railroad crossing that literally side by side with the station building. This make the station unable to extend it's platform, meanwhile they can't extend it on the other side because the rail is curving, prevent to make it good stop point for the train. The station building it self are still remain the old small wooden building just like many small stations on the line before get massive renovation. The short platform are just non-permanent platform (peron bancik). The only way to extend the platform lenght is moving the road farther which is the job for the local government since it's inter province road. Edit : Curently, only 6 cars of train that got the platform on the track bound to east (Tanah Abang) and 8 cars only on the track bound to west (Rangkasbitung). The remaining of the train cars that don't get the platform are also blocking the road. Edit 2 : There is a project that already started to make fly over for the road, so the railroad crossing will be erased and the station can extend it platform (hopefully upgrading their station too).
For additional information: All types of transport modes this video mentioned use "KRL (Kereta Rel Listrik)", which all rely on electric power to operate. In English, KRL is referred to as EMU (Electric Multiple Unit). Indeed, even high-speed railway (HSR) use KRL (EMU). "KRL" is not a service or brand, but merely a type of vehicle, similar to "electric bus" or "diesel car." For the specific commuter train services operated by KAI Commuter you are referring to, it should be called the "Commuter Line."
As a Filipino railfan, I wish my city had at least this type of rail system. There are only like 3-4 rail lines in my country. Would want to ride all if I ever visit Jakarta.
Love to hear someone who very passionate about a certain topic and actually have the knowledge to describe it perfectly. You just gain a new subscriber.
Oh wow this is very exciting. I'm from Jakarta myself but I've been living in Japan for some years, thus I'm quite surprised to see how the public transport has evolved so far. Can't wait to try riding the train when I go back home.
It depends, KRL's proper translation should be "Electric Train". As for "EMU", well if the electric train is pulled by a locomotive (like TGV), then the electric train is not EMU as each of the cars won't have electric motors. But our KRLs are indeed EMUs.
As a born and bred Jakartan i must say the transformation has been absurdly fast. I remember taking a ride on bus or train in Jakarta back in 2000s and ive always ended up with bad experience. Now i'm commuting daily, first by KRL/CL then with MRT/BRT and it's extremely affordable, IDR18k for 2 ways trip ❤ i still have 1 complain tho' i hope theyll provide e-scooter so i dont need to walk to my office 😅
Can we agree that Bogor Line alone is responsible for giving the largest commuter workers every day? Well thanks to Bogor, Bojong Gede, Citayam, and Depok Baru stations which can get dangerously crowded, no cap. 😬 They also need to fix the delay issue between Tebet and Manggarai tho.
I'd say as someone who lives in Parung Panjang, the demand have increased almost double for the past 6 months as more and more people couldn't afford living in South Tangerang they migrated here to Parung Panjang
I mean, thats one way to learn a lesson to not cooperate with mainland China. They're scummy. Its not just us being screwed up, a lot of countries are.
As an (ex-)frequest user, I have SOO many things to say about Jakarta's public transportation infrastructure, but overall, I think it's heading in the right way and I'm geniunely excited for the future, when more and more lines are expanded. Few things though: - Transit between LRT Jabodebek's Dukuh Atas Station and KRL Sudirman Station is... pretty rough. From Dukuh Atas, you have to walk through very long bridge (I also have something to say about this bridge, but that's for another time), and then go down to enter Sudirman Station's building. Here's the thing: At this point you *CANNOT* exit the station and go to the street. Shame, as they actually pedestrianized the street, but the pedestrian road doesn't reach the bridge to Dukuh Atas Station. Instead, you HAVE to enter and pay Rp1 and go through the station's 1st platform. The paying part is not the problem, the problem is the fact that you have to go inside the ticket gate at all. Imagine doing this at rush hour--you'd have to go through mass of people in the train platform to transit to LRT Jabodebek. - Transit between KRL Cawang Station and TransJakarta and/or LRT Jabodebek Cikoko Station is confusing. - Cawang Station is also very small, despite it being a transit station to TJ and LRT. IMO it needs a massive expansion. Isn't the land in front of the station empty? Can't you use that instead of letting it sit there doing nothing except being an abandoned car showroom? - The bend near LRT Cawang Station, urgh. Why the heck is it so slow, man? Compared to the one in Kuningan, it's night and day. I read somewhere that this happens because of the miscommunication between KAI side and the train's software's contractor There's still things I like about Jakarta public transportation though: - KAI's new design language is *very* good and clear. Also it's probably one of the most successful and consistent rebrand I've ever seen in my entire life IMO - MRT Jakarta is such a gem. - Cheap AF - TransJakarta is getting a massive improvement to many of its bus stops all over Jakarta and I really like it. Please make more videos! I watch a lot of Japanese public transit TH-cam channel like 西園寺 and wished that there are also channels like that from Indonesia. I have some topic requests, would you make a video talking about INKA's new train for Jakarta commuter line? Pretty interested with it especially they decided to manufacture our own instead of importing used JR E217
Sure thing, though I haven't read much about the new INKA trains themselves. All I know is that we decided to make our own instead of buying second hand. Il see if I can find any video worthy material.
@@shindorideI thought they finally decided to retrofit old KRLs that were getting retired. Honestly i think this is really smart. Also the LRT bend is super slow because it was previously designed for narrow gauge (1067 mm) but changed to standard gauge (1435 mm) midway. So... yeah, that's Indonesian planning for you.
Great video. Is this video target audience is foreigner? If yes, my suggestion is please give explanations for each destination like important landmark/famous travel spot so they know which train route they need to take. Even for Indonesian who live outside Jakarta I doubt they understand which train they need to take if they come to Jakarta. Keep making video and explain Jakarta and Indonesia to the world!
Great timing on this video! I am heading to Jakarta in March to check out the railways. I'd love for an urbanist meetup if you are down. Also, I love the maps in your video. Can you share how you created/edited them? I have always struggled with making animated maps for videos.
Hmm, I've never organized or joined a meet up before. But I know some transit communities here do meet ups so if they every do that again, I could join that and you and other Shindo 7/Ride viewers can meet up there. Also the editing process is pretty simple. You just take a map from Snazzy maps (copyright free), then you put it in paint.net and draw the lines on top of the map on different layers. Then just save the individual layers separately and put them on your editing software. I use Filmora and you can do some very basic animation there to, so I just animate a box representing the trains, following the line.
Very nice and detailed video, I've always been interested and impressed by Jakarta's rapid transit system. Wished we had something like that over here in Manila. However, I do really think that the lines have a huge problem with capacity. Many sections (including the ones you mentioned in the video) need to be quad tracked to relieve congestion, particularly in and out of the approach to and from Manggarai, Manggarai to Duri, and sections that share track with the Airport Express. Perhaps expanding and revamping the station layouts of the stations on the branch line of the Cikarang line, and major stations such as Kota Tua could help as well. Perhaps even link it up with Duri and create a loop line to further relieve congestion and improve connectivity? Idk. Quite nice to see that integration with other modes of transport such as Transjakarta are being improved as well, really paving the way to be a world-class system that rivals neighbours such as Bangkok's. Also, no offense but I found the video quite hard to understand due to the very thick accent 😭 Not bad but the Indonesian accent is very apparent, makes some words incomprehensible to me, still understood but had to rewatch several times (just had to point this out, really bugged me, but your English is still very much fluent) 😅 Once again, great video. Would love to see more on other Indonesian cities, perhaps even abroad.
Yep, a tunnel (most likely) connecting duri with kota would be nice and tangerang line trains would be able to connect directly with the Bogor line. I am slightly concerned with the risk of flooding though with that idea. And now that you told me that, looks like my next video needs subtitles 🤣.
2017 jakarta metropolitan terbesar ke2 di dunia setelah tokyo dengan 32 juta penduduk. Tapi gak ada metro. Kasih tau orang jepang 😂 bahkan walaupun semua kereta di Tokyo berhenti semua orang masih bisa tiba ke kantor untuk bekerja 5:57 kalau saran aku sih harusnya bisa ningkayin jadi 3 menit dan 3-4 trek membuat kapasitas untuk masa depan
It baffles me why MRT Jakarta opted for 1067mm cape gauge instead of 1435mm standard gauge. Are they planning on linking MRT with KRL as "through service" in the future like we see in Japan? Considering MRT will be extended to Kota Station.
That is actually planned as the MRT was originally going to directly link the commuterline either via Kota or Kampungbandang. Though, right now, that plan is in a limbo as it depends on how the next phase of the MRT (the extension to Ancol) will be build
I love how I was just "???" looking at Cikarang Line at the maps in the trains and after looking at this video it only changed to "??? Why???" Rangkasbitung was fine from my experience going to ComiFuro. Tanjung Priok is fine, but they close at 7PM or so, I once got jebaited because I thought it'd run until midnight like other lines/stations. On an off note, I've once been brought to Tanah Abang by the GoStation service because I didn't check what station they're bringing me to... And never again. Just give me Gondangdia - in my book, the Bogor Line is outright S tier putting aside the Nambo-Bogor and Mangaria splits.
Duri transit station harus menambah eskalator untuk transit dan berganti peron dan KRL Tangerang line harus menambah kereta jadi 12 kereta per rangkaian karena penumpang line tangerang duri selalu penuh apalagi saat peak hour.
3:56 Yeah, one day I decided to take a photo on every station because the gap was 15-25 mins. I'd expect to get the full album of Cikarang Loop Line by sunset. However, I didn't know that "infrequent" part and stuck in Kemayoran for an hour. Went several time on the other days, and I didn't regret it. Now I have the full documentation of 82 stations. Took about 50 hours to do that, but probably less than $5 money-wise in total as I exited in the same station I went in (Rp3000/~$0.2 each entry).
0:00 It is true to see any urbanist channel never talked about Jakarta its because most half of those channels only recognised popular cities like: tokyo new york singapore london and some european cities transit and metros
As someone who uses the Bogor line like 5 days a week in a minimum, I have a love hate relationship with this line. PARTICULARLY because recently they changed the schedule. Before there's a train in 5:09, 5:12/5:14, 5:17 THEN 5:20ish AM but NOW it's only 5:09 and 5:20 AM WHAT HAPPENED?????????? IT'LL BE LIKE 5:30 AND THE TRAINS ALREADY CROWDED LIKE COME ONNNNNNNNN. Also a bad experience I had in 30th November 2022: waited at tanjung barat since 13:00 SHARP and the train got delayed from 13:30 to 13:45. Good God I still didn't know what happened there. Other than that I think your tier list is accurate. Maybe you should do a Trans Jakarta tier list next? I wanted to request the school bus lines, I have some gripes about them bc I'm still in school myself and uses it semi frequently, but then I remember people who's out of school can't use it so oh well
Amazing video, I love your accent haha! I think voice recording could be improved though. I had only used MRT in Jakarta and only saw videos of KRL trains.
I think Bekasi/Cikarang to Pasar Senen route is a hidden gems. It is true that the headway is 30 miniutes, but looks the crowed, even in the rush hour, you can still get the chair, and if you must stand, that is much better than Manggarai route. And you can follow the train schedule so don’t need to wait too much longer. If you from Bekasi and your office in Pasar Senen route, you will agree with me.
Most things going to Manggarai end up a lot less crowded after actually getting to Manggarai. The feeling of the train suddenly emptying out is surreal. It's like an epilogue of an action packed, maybe even tragic movie where everyone died.
im regularly commute with Rangkasbitung line, Rawa Buntu to Palmerah. occasional delays do happens in rush hour but maybe in like once or twice a month.
I personally think Rangkasbitung line is the best KRL line in term of: 1. Headway (10-20 mins; mostly on schedule so we can believe the timetable), 2. The tracks (its double track is usually used by that line only) 3. The trainset itself (all of them are 10 cars; most of them are pretty good JR; altho recently they got 10 cars vintage TM from 70s I suppose...?) 4. The views (greeeenns hence its colorway; feels like a trip to a countryside; and Tanah Kusir cemetery on the way, ofc!) Some stations are pretty good like Palmerah, Kebayoran, Cisauk, Tanah Abang and (new) Jurangmangu... Some are just ok like Rangkasbitung, Rawa Buntu, Serpong (with its deadly stairs), Parungpanjang and Maja... Mostly are nah but still bearable except for Tenjo which is a pure NG. Overall pretty good, no complain. * Except for those days where random things just happened and turn this line into a nightmare. ** OOC but its from my perspective as a human being live in Depok 😅
As someone who used to transit through Duri frequently, you are absolutely correct that Duri is more often than not MORE brutal than Tanah Abang For starters one Peron only has a *single* escalator set to go up & down and it breaks so frequently you wonder if Duri has reduced budgets or something During rush hour it has the crowd of Tanah Abang but narrower and one peron only has a single way to go up
I think it might also be worth mentioning that the Bekasi Line can also serve as a starting point of inner-city transport for people outside of Jakarta coming into the city via the high-speed railway which connects Tegalluar (Bandung), Padalarang, and Halim.
The Tanjung Priok line is old because the train fleet is Series 05 which has a 4-Quadrant Chopper system Because the system used is a 4-Quadrant Chopper, it is not suitable for electrical traffic on the Jabodetabek route. So that's it.And there is the Tokyo Metro 6000 Series, namely the 6005 Fleet, many spare parts have also been given to the 6006 and 6007 and the 6005 cannot run properly if put on the main line. This series will Strike And there are often problems, so that's the reason the time on the Tanjung Priok line takes so long
The only complain of LRT Jabodebek that i have is the frequency on green line, specially because that line is the connection line between HST Halim station towards city centre. Considering from dukuh atas to Cawang they designed to have 5 minutes frequency, they have no reason to having 30 minutes gap on Cawang to Jatimulya. I hope they can fix it because the high speed train were not yet expanded towards city centre (even though they already talk about the possible expand to connect city centre and Soetta Airport, but i doubt they will prioritize that over extension line from Tegalluar-Surabaya first)
Speaking about train, i think you need to look intercity train that goes from rangkasbitung to merak. I used it frequently in my college time, and it also having its improvement, from tanah abang - merak which you can use it even if you dont have train tickets (use flazz/krl card) and sneek to bathcroom (during tickets checking) to Rangkasbitung - merak which feel like truely intercity train right now
Rangkasbitung line has a PRP - RK so you can take an PRP service to PRP then go to RK with a PRP-RK oh and there's a MRI - RK only in the afternoon and a THB - TGS every 3 hours (its so rare that it shows as Tanah Abang instead of Tigaraksa) .
As a person who lives in Bintaro I can confirm that Rangkasbitung line has so little bit of delay because once the train stopped at one station takes 2-5 minutes before it get going again and getting in or out is the problem due to lack of time to reach Tanah Abang and how crowded one coach is. so example: you reach your station in the Rangkasbitung line and the train has around 1-3 minutes before going again and your reaction was late to get off the train then the train departure and then you either take the train to go back or rather use taxi from the next station.
At someone who works on north jakarta, they need to expand the tanjung priok line at least to cilincing or marunda (cause i work at marunda, and i have to use motorbike everyday because gojek is fucking expensive and the jaklingko/non brt tj take around 45 mins-1 hour from tj priok to my workplace). I know its literally almost impossible but i can only hope
Thankfully a 4 track line currently being built at various chokepoints in the Cikarang line like the Manggarai-Jatinegara 4 track which I hope to god is given top priority for completion, and the Bekasi-Cikarang 4 track which might sadly still be in the land aquisition phase
Stumbled upon this video and just realised this type of video is heavily inspired by CCP Grey. Subbed and liked the video. This cures my homesickness, though xD
KRL Bogor Line is both a nightmare and a heavensent. You got a line connecting the three major cities of Indonesia (Jakarta-Depok-Bogor) into one line and make people from those cities be able to commute easily to other cities at a cheap price, however, the amount of bodies you have to go through during peak or non-peak hours, the horrible body odors of the people, the questionable sanitary issues with the carts and the stations, the regular pickpockets and rapists, and lastly the ungodly timing and confusing schedules made you think twice before boarding the train.
Even though the Cibubur Line of LRT Jabodebek is not a fast one, I think the Cibubur Line would fit best for the rush hour. I live near TMII, so if I want to go to CBD like SCBD, Thamrin, etc, I have two options: Corridor 9/9C of TransJakarta and Cibubur Line of LRT Jabodebek. On non-rush hour, I prefer TransJakarta as it provides a cheaper and maybe faster commuting option. The thing is, during rush hour, the traffic is a hell of traffic, especially between Cawang Sentral (Cawang UKI) to Tegal Mampang (Tegal Parang) bus stop and could go up to more than two hours from Pinang Ranti to Sudirman. God knows how grateful I am after the Cibubur Line was settled.
LRT Jabodebek according to a colleague working in Thamrin area from home in Cibubur and Bekasi Barat: They are so slow, that the time it takes to reach Dukuh Atas (and transfer to MRTJ/Transjakarta Koridor 1) is the same as driving a car. This is also the case for LRTJ Kelapa Gading. It is so slow that the traffic jams of Kelapa Gading and awfully long traffic lights at Jl Pemuda matches the travel time of the light rail. MRTJ is clearly the best, better than some of the world's major metro, even the ones in Tokyo - where it is modelled after. Singapore MRT (SMRT) which give the namesake for the system, now are becoming old people country's service, which makes their AC feels like a fan without chiller.
Interesting, thank you for giving a drivers prespective of Jakarta's rail network. Next time I ride those, I should check the average speed with a gps speedometer.
I showed this to my mother living in tokyo she said "新宿には都市間電車が走っていますが、これほどひどいものではありません" Which you can translate it via a google translate button underneath it. She's also surprised that there's no sidewalk in the most of the city
Yep, but Shinjuku is bigger than all our intercity train stations. Gambir is tiny considering how many intercity lines stop there. And yes a large chunk of the city has no/very bad sidewalks, though there are also some really good ones like in Sudirman & Thamrin road.
As of recently, you can use Flazz/TapCash and such for the airport train. Only one gate per station, not well signposted, kind of wonky not giving me confidence it'll works every time (making me miss the flight!), but kind of possible.
Will you do all the 14 transjakarta BRT corridors tire list? p.s. I dont know wether its good include the 14th corridor since its not yet "a brt" p.p.s oh you already did it , my bad
myself who is a frequent user for Transjakarta, KRL, and MRT says it's mostly accurate. Even tho the LRT is mostly new to the transit system of jakarta it's usually not that useful for me in terms of price due to the fact it being slightly more expensive compared to MRT or KRL Commuter line depending on how far do you want to go from one LRT station to another. Though it gives us access to the recently opened KCIC (Kereta Cepat Indonesia Cina) I just don't find it that useful for a daily commute for now.
Sebenarnya kalo cuma bagian Bekasi - Kampung Bandan via Manggarai yang dihitung, Cikarang line bisa B tier. Hanya saja bagian Kampung Bandan - Jatinegara via Senen yang agak nurunin nilainya karena headwaynya terlalu lama.
Yes, I do this maybe twice/thrice yearly trip from Tangerang to Cibubur and the ring roads have made driving significantly faster than transit. We're talking 50 minutes vs 3 hours here.
U know what im gonna rate the NSL ( north south line ) singapore is good the line is very reachable from any resident and for the train last time i ride is like 20-30 years old train but i dont know why better then the holec KRL in indonesia so overall for NSL is 9/10
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One significant problem I forgot to mention in the video, especially present in the Tanjung Priok, Cikarang, and Rangkasbitung Lines is that some platforms are too short meaning if you're in the wrong car, you could miss your station.
The Integration with other modes and land use surrounding the stations also deserves its own video, actually most lines deserve a 5-10 minute in depth explanation video. This tier list video is really just the basics from a passenger perspective.
KRL itu bacanya ke-er-el bukan ka-er-el
@@GalihStone Depends on whether you wanna use English spelling or Indonesian spelling
@@rusticcloud3325 well, the whole damn video is in english, what more can I say?
yes make those videos
@@GalihStone yeah but KRL is Kereta Rel Listrik, so it's better to spell it in Indonesian
Finally, an Indonesian Railway Channel. Now we are truly in the peak timeline.
Yep, seeing that practically no one covers Jakarta, and all the attention is given to Singapore and sometimes Bangkok, I had to step in.
@@shindoride Also mind blowing that the only one that have decided to make content like this is not a Jakartan but a Serpong-ers like me (I'm from LK) lmao. I honestly hope Tangerang will start getting their shit together and actually build infrastructure. Practically all of our "better" infrastructure from transit to roads are privately owned, build, or operated. Crazy despite the whole of Tangerang has more people than Bekasi or even Central Bandung and Surabaya!
I think its because we're so transit depraved, even just regular buses seem interesting.
Here in Gading Serpong, one developer built a lot of bus stops but provides no service, the other one runs their buses every 2-4 hours.
@@shindorideAh you are Serponger? That's explain stuff. Salam from BSD!
Love the deadpan humor and the detail, honestly 10/10 vid
P.S. Duri transiters deserve a war medal
Ah yes, Rangkasbitung Line. From Tanah Abang with crowded transfer passenger, Palmerah and kebayoran with good integration, Pondok Ranji and Sudimara with decent station but very bad access, Jurangmangu and Cisauk with good TOD in the middle of car centric suburbia, Rawabuntu with strategic location yet humble Angkot connection (AFAIK), Serpong with narrow as hell platform, many stations in the rural areas that become target of greedy land speculant and developer, Rangkasbitung that need new building ASAP, and Tenjo with goofy ahh short platform and rail crossing on the road.
Now that you mentioned all that, it seems that a lot of the lines deserve their own in depth video.
The whole existence of Tenjo station is just a huge joke.
God bless Tenjo station
@@ahmadniam3568 Now I need to go there to see what Tenjo is really like (I only went as far as Parung Panjang).
@@shindoride The ridiculous thing about Tenjo station is not just about the short platform, but the reason why it's still short platform till today.
There is railroad crossing that literally side by side with the station building. This make the station unable to extend it's platform, meanwhile they can't extend it on the other side because the rail is curving, prevent to make it good stop point for the train. The station building it self are still remain the old small wooden building just like many small stations on the line before get massive renovation. The short platform are just non-permanent platform (peron bancik).
The only way to extend the platform lenght is moving the road farther which is the job for the local government since it's inter province road.
Edit : Curently, only 6 cars of train that got the platform on the track bound to east (Tanah Abang) and 8 cars only on the track bound to west (Rangkasbitung). The remaining of the train cars that don't get the platform are also blocking the road.
Edit 2 : There is a project that already started to make fly over for the road, so the railroad crossing will be erased and the station can extend it platform (hopefully upgrading their station too).
Indonesian public transit-related YT channel?? Auto subscribe, haha
As a fan of Indonesian railways, I am happy someone made a video about.
Well done mate! Subbed from the UK!
Thank you
@@shindoride Np.
For additional information: All types of transport modes this video mentioned use "KRL (Kereta Rel Listrik)", which all rely on electric power to operate. In English, KRL is referred to as EMU (Electric Multiple Unit). Indeed, even high-speed railway (HSR) use KRL (EMU). "KRL" is not a service or brand, but merely a type of vehicle, similar to "electric bus" or "diesel car."
For the specific commuter train services operated by KAI Commuter you are referring to, it should be called the "Commuter Line."
Technical term vs colloquial term
Yeah, but it's better to gradually phase out its usage, so it doesn't become a misnomer in the future.
@@Rinoarashi-P Kereta api already a misnomer
People still calling TransJakarta as Busway 😅
@@ReijiKyosuke yeah that's one example of another misnomer 😅
"Busway" is actually the exclusive lane for buses
Subbed. Please continue making Jakarta transit vids. Really is a good time to be alive for public transit fans in Jakarta.
- Jakarta Salaryman
I soon going to move to Jakarta and this video has proven a big deal into my research.
Instant subscribe, that is.
As a Filipino railfan, I wish my city had at least this type of rail system. There are only like 3-4 rail lines in my country. Would want to ride all if I ever visit Jakarta.
Love to hear someone who very passionate about a certain topic and actually have the knowledge to describe it perfectly. You just gain a new subscriber.
as a Surabayan, even if we just have 1% of Jakarta MRT, we will be very happy
So ASEAN-Blok M?
Oh wow this is very exciting. I'm from Jakarta myself but I've been living in Japan for some years, thus I'm quite surprised to see how the public transport has evolved so far. Can't wait to try riding the train when I go back home.
KRL is EMU (electric multiple units) train in English languange, include MRT (mass rapid transit) train and LRT (light rail transit) train.
It depends, KRL's proper translation should be "Electric Train". As for "EMU", well if the electric train is pulled by a locomotive (like TGV), then the electric train is not EMU as each of the cars won't have electric motors. But our KRLs are indeed EMUs.
That North south line joke took me off guard as a frequent Singapore MRT user back during my college days
Thxx for this, man. I'm Brazilian and have been looking for some content on transit of southeast asia for quite long time. This video was perfect!!
Thank you, btw id be great if there's someone explaining all the BRT systems there in detail
Love the content and S-tier voiceover!
I'd suggest to add station names and location of the ones you mentioned in the graphics.
As a born and bred Jakartan i must say the transformation has been absurdly fast. I remember taking a ride on bus or train in Jakarta back in 2000s and ive always ended up with bad experience. Now i'm commuting daily, first by KRL/CL then with MRT/BRT and it's extremely affordable, IDR18k for 2 ways trip ❤ i still have 1 complain tho' i hope theyll provide e-scooter so i dont need to walk to my office 😅
An indoensian public transit related TH-cam channel?? Subscribing right now
Ga nyangka ada channel Indo yang bahas ginian dan pembawaanya gini. Keep up the good work :D
Can we agree that Bogor Line alone is responsible for giving the largest commuter workers every day?
Well thanks to Bogor, Bojong Gede, Citayam, and Depok Baru stations which can get dangerously crowded, no cap. 😬
They also need to fix the delay issue between Tebet and Manggarai tho.
woah what a nice day, algorithm recommended me this!
I'd say as someone who lives in Parung Panjang, the demand have increased almost double for the past 6 months as more and more people couldn't afford living in South Tangerang they migrated here to Parung Panjang
This video is awesome! It's just so interesting to see my local trains get ranked. I'm so glad a channel like this exists for Indonesia.
please continue making these kinds of videos and for other cities in indonesia if possible, thank you
really cool video and rail transit system, wish the best to transport in Jakarta and the rest of Indonesia, greetings from são paulo, brazil
all the news and tweets I read made me afraid to even go inside the LRT, but you eased that fear a little bit. thank you!
Your welcome
I mean, thats one way to learn a lesson to not cooperate with mainland China. They're scummy. Its not just us being screwed up, a lot of countries are.
As an (ex-)frequest user, I have SOO many things to say about Jakarta's public transportation infrastructure, but overall, I think it's heading in the right way and I'm geniunely excited for the future, when more and more lines are expanded.
Few things though:
- Transit between LRT Jabodebek's Dukuh Atas Station and KRL Sudirman Station is... pretty rough. From Dukuh Atas, you have to walk through very long bridge (I also have something to say about this bridge, but that's for another time), and then go down to enter Sudirman Station's building. Here's the thing: At this point you *CANNOT* exit the station and go to the street. Shame, as they actually pedestrianized the street, but the pedestrian road doesn't reach the bridge to Dukuh Atas Station. Instead, you HAVE to enter and pay Rp1 and go through the station's 1st platform. The paying part is not the problem, the problem is the fact that you have to go inside the ticket gate at all. Imagine doing this at rush hour--you'd have to go through mass of people in the train platform to transit to LRT Jabodebek.
- Transit between KRL Cawang Station and TransJakarta and/or LRT Jabodebek Cikoko Station is confusing.
- Cawang Station is also very small, despite it being a transit station to TJ and LRT. IMO it needs a massive expansion. Isn't the land in front of the station empty? Can't you use that instead of letting it sit there doing nothing except being an abandoned car showroom?
- The bend near LRT Cawang Station, urgh. Why the heck is it so slow, man? Compared to the one in Kuningan, it's night and day. I read somewhere that this happens because of the miscommunication between KAI side and the train's software's contractor
There's still things I like about Jakarta public transportation though:
- KAI's new design language is *very* good and clear. Also it's probably one of the most successful and consistent rebrand I've ever seen in my entire life IMO
- MRT Jakarta is such a gem.
- Cheap AF
- TransJakarta is getting a massive improvement to many of its bus stops all over Jakarta and I really like it.
Please make more videos! I watch a lot of Japanese public transit TH-cam channel like 西園寺 and wished that there are also channels like that from Indonesia. I have some topic requests, would you make a video talking about INKA's new train for Jakarta commuter line? Pretty interested with it especially they decided to manufacture our own instead of importing used JR E217
Sure thing, though I haven't read much about the new INKA trains themselves. All I know is that we decided to make our own instead of buying second hand.
Il see if I can find any video worthy material.
@@shindorideI thought they finally decided to retrofit old KRLs that were getting retired. Honestly i think this is really smart.
Also the LRT bend is super slow because it was previously designed for narrow gauge (1067 mm) but changed to standard gauge (1435 mm) midway. So... yeah, that's Indonesian planning for you.
@@zathary564 They also retrofitted old trains, and thank you for the information.
you watch 西園寺 too？？ wow I like マトリョーシカ as well
simply E217 is worn out and possibly wont fit because its wider
Great video. Is this video target audience is foreigner? If yes, my suggestion is please give explanations for each destination like important landmark/famous travel spot so they know which train route they need to take. Even for Indonesian who live outside Jakarta I doubt they understand which train they need to take if they come to Jakarta. Keep making video and explain Jakarta and Indonesia to the world!
Good idea
Great timing on this video! I am heading to Jakarta in March to check out the railways. I'd love for an urbanist meetup if you are down.
Also, I love the maps in your video. Can you share how you created/edited them? I have always struggled with making animated maps for videos.
Hmm, I've never organized or joined a meet up before. But I know some transit communities here do meet ups so if they every do that again, I could join that and you and other Shindo 7/Ride viewers can meet up there.
Also the editing process is pretty simple. You just take a map from Snazzy maps (copyright free), then you put it in paint.net and draw the lines on top of the map on different layers. Then just save the individual layers separately and put them on your editing software.
I use Filmora and you can do some very basic animation there to, so I just animate a box representing the trains, following the line.
Very nice and detailed video, I've always been interested and impressed by Jakarta's rapid transit system. Wished we had something like that over here in Manila. However, I do really think that the lines have a huge problem with capacity. Many sections (including the ones you mentioned in the video) need to be quad tracked to relieve congestion, particularly in and out of the approach to and from Manggarai, Manggarai to Duri, and sections that share track with the Airport Express. Perhaps expanding and revamping the station layouts of the stations on the branch line of the Cikarang line, and major stations such as Kota Tua could help as well. Perhaps even link it up with Duri and create a loop line to further relieve congestion and improve connectivity? Idk. Quite nice to see that integration with other modes of transport such as Transjakarta are being improved as well, really paving the way to be a world-class system that rivals neighbours such as Bangkok's.
Also, no offense but I found the video quite hard to understand due to the very thick accent 😭
Not bad but the Indonesian accent is very apparent, makes some words incomprehensible to me, still understood but had to rewatch several times (just had to point this out, really bugged me, but your English is still very much fluent) 😅
Once again, great video. Would love to see more on other Indonesian cities, perhaps even abroad.
Yep, a tunnel (most likely) connecting duri with kota would be nice and tangerang line trains would be able to connect directly with the Bogor line.
I am slightly concerned with the risk of flooding though with that idea.
And now that you told me that, looks like my next video needs subtitles 🤣.
2017 jakarta metropolitan terbesar ke2 di dunia setelah tokyo dengan 32 juta penduduk. Tapi gak ada metro. Kasih tau orang jepang 😂 bahkan walaupun semua kereta di Tokyo berhenti semua orang masih bisa tiba ke kantor untuk bekerja
5:57 kalau saran aku sih harusnya bisa ningkayin jadi 3 menit dan 3-4 trek membuat kapasitas untuk masa depan
Watching this from bogor line :)
Keeps up the good work mate👍👍
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It baffles me why MRT Jakarta opted for 1067mm cape gauge instead of 1435mm standard gauge. Are they planning on linking MRT with KRL as "through service" in the future like we see in Japan? Considering MRT will be extended to Kota Station.
That is actually planned as the MRT was originally going to directly link the commuterline either via Kota or Kampungbandang. Though, right now, that plan is in a limbo as it depends on how the next phase of the MRT (the extension to Ancol) will be build
I love how I was just "???" looking at Cikarang Line at the maps in the trains and after looking at this video it only changed to "??? Why???" Rangkasbitung was fine from my experience going to ComiFuro. Tanjung Priok is fine, but they close at 7PM or so, I once got jebaited because I thought it'd run until midnight like other lines/stations.
On an off note, I've once been brought to Tanah Abang by the GoStation service because I didn't check what station they're bringing me to... And never again. Just give me Gondangdia - in my book, the Bogor Line is outright S tier putting aside the Nambo-Bogor and Mangaria splits.
Duri transit station harus menambah eskalator untuk transit dan berganti peron dan KRL Tangerang line harus menambah kereta jadi 12 kereta per rangkaian karena penumpang line tangerang duri selalu penuh apalagi saat peak hour.
3:56 Yeah, one day I decided to take a photo on every station because the gap was 15-25 mins. I'd expect to get the full album of Cikarang Loop Line by sunset. However, I didn't know that "infrequent" part and stuck in Kemayoran for an hour.
Went several time on the other days, and I didn't regret it. Now I have the full documentation of 82 stations.
Took about 50 hours to do that, but probably less than $5 money-wise in total as I exited in the same station I went in (Rp3000/~$0.2 each entry).
0:00 It is true to see any urbanist channel never talked about Jakarta its because most half of those channels only recognised popular cities like: tokyo new york singapore london and some european cities transit and metros
As someone who uses the Bogor line like 5 days a week in a minimum, I have a love hate relationship with this line. PARTICULARLY because recently they changed the schedule. Before there's a train in 5:09, 5:12/5:14, 5:17 THEN 5:20ish AM but NOW it's only 5:09 and 5:20 AM WHAT HAPPENED?????????? IT'LL BE LIKE 5:30 AND THE TRAINS ALREADY CROWDED LIKE COME ONNNNNNNNN. Also a bad experience I had in 30th November 2022: waited at tanjung barat since 13:00 SHARP and the train got delayed from 13:30 to 13:45. Good God I still didn't know what happened there. Other than that I think your tier list is accurate. Maybe you should do a Trans Jakarta tier list next? I wanted to request the school bus lines, I have some gripes about them bc I'm still in school myself and uses it semi frequently, but then I remember people who's out of school can't use it so oh well
Oh no wait YOU ALREADY DID THE TJ TIER LIST watching it like right tf now
I actually went all the way to Rangkasbitung once, it was an interesting experience going from the dense cityscape to fields of paddy.
we can all agree that the bogor line is the best krl line
Subscibed! The BK line should get extra points for its integration with the Bandung bullet train
Amazing video, I love your accent haha! I think voice recording could be improved though. I had only used MRT in Jakarta and only saw videos of KRL trains.
I think Bekasi/Cikarang to Pasar Senen route is a hidden gems. It is true that the headway is 30 miniutes, but looks the crowed, even in the rush hour, you can still get the chair, and if you must stand, that is much better than Manggarai route. And you can follow the train schedule so don’t need to wait too much longer. If you from Bekasi and your office in Pasar Senen route, you will agree with me.
Most things going to Manggarai end up a lot less crowded after actually getting to Manggarai. The feeling of the train suddenly emptying out is surreal. It's like an epilogue of an action packed, maybe even tragic movie where everyone died.
Jakarta needs another circle line to integrate some KRL lines and break up the density in manggarai station.
im regularly commute with Rangkasbitung line, Rawa Buntu to Palmerah. occasional delays do happens in rush hour but maybe in like once or twice a month.
You did a great job, bro. Keep it up.
Thank you
Ahh rangkasbitung, strange line.
Gangguan mulai dari springbed, pohon jatuh, sapi dan kambing masuk jalur
Basically the "Florida Man" of the train stations 😂
Rangkasbitung : Florida
I personally think Rangkasbitung line is the best KRL line in term of:
1. Headway (10-20 mins; mostly on schedule so we can believe the timetable),
2. The tracks (its double track is usually used by that line only)
3. The trainset itself (all of them are 10 cars; most of them are pretty good JR; altho recently they got 10 cars vintage TM from 70s I suppose...?)
4. The views (greeeenns hence its colorway; feels like a trip to a countryside; and Tanah Kusir cemetery on the way, ofc!)
Some stations are pretty good like Palmerah, Kebayoran, Cisauk, Tanah Abang and (new) Jurangmangu...
Some are just ok like Rangkasbitung, Rawa Buntu, Serpong (with its deadly stairs), Parungpanjang and Maja...
Mostly are nah but still bearable except for Tenjo which is a pure NG.
Overall pretty good, no complain.
* Except for those days where random things just happened and turn this line into a nightmare.
** OOC but its from my perspective as a human being live in Depok 😅
Sameee I love the rangkasbitung line❤❤❤
As someone who used to transit through Duri frequently, you are absolutely correct that Duri is more often than not MORE brutal than Tanah Abang
For starters one Peron only has a *single* escalator set to go up & down and it breaks so frequently you wonder if Duri has reduced budgets or something
During rush hour it has the crowd of Tanah Abang but narrower and one peron only has a single way to go up
Keep up the good work man!
I think it might also be worth mentioning that the Bekasi Line can also serve as a starting point of inner-city transport for people outside of Jakarta coming into the city via the high-speed railway which connects Tegalluar (Bandung), Padalarang, and Halim.
Need ring railway line ASAP
Please DJKA, build it today ,the effect will last forever
Yes, right now, getting from Serpong to Bogor with KRL requires a detour to Central Jakarta, making it much faster to drive instead.
The Tanjung Priok line is old because the train fleet is Series 05 which has a 4-Quadrant Chopper system Because the system used is a 4-Quadrant Chopper, it is not suitable for electrical traffic on the Jabodetabek route. So that's it.And there is the Tokyo Metro 6000 Series, namely the 6005 Fleet, many spare parts have also been given to the 6006 and 6007 and the 6005 cannot run properly if put on the main line. This series will Strike And there are often problems, so that's the reason the time on the Tanjung Priok line takes so long
Wonderful video and cool Blahaj :3
The only complain of LRT Jabodebek that i have is the frequency on green line, specially because that line is the connection line between HST Halim station towards city centre. Considering from dukuh atas to Cawang they designed to have 5 minutes frequency, they have no reason to having 30 minutes gap on Cawang to Jatimulya. I hope they can fix it because the high speed train were not yet expanded towards city centre (even though they already talk about the possible expand to connect city centre and Soetta Airport, but i doubt they will prioritize that over extension line from Tegalluar-Surabaya first)
Speaking about train, i think you need to look intercity train that goes from rangkasbitung to merak. I used it frequently in my college time, and it also having its improvement, from tanah abang - merak which you can use it even if you dont have train tickets (use flazz/krl card) and sneek to bathcroom (during tickets checking) to Rangkasbitung - merak which feel like truely intercity train right now
At 4.45 there the cc 201 involved in the 2024 cicalenka collision:cc 201 77 17💀
AYYY this is nice. subscribed!
Rangkasbitung line has a PRP - RK so you can take an PRP service to PRP then go to RK with a PRP-RK
oh and there's a MRI - RK only in the afternoon and a THB - TGS every 3 hours (its so rare that it shows as Tanah Abang instead of Tigaraksa)
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YOURE UNDERRATED BRO
As a person who lives in Bintaro I can confirm that Rangkasbitung line has so little bit of delay because once the train stopped at one station takes 2-5 minutes before it get going again and getting in or out is the problem due to lack of time to reach Tanah Abang and how crowded one coach is.
so example: you reach your station in the Rangkasbitung line and the train has around 1-3 minutes before going again and your reaction was late to get off the train then the train departure and then you either take the train to go back or rather use taxi from the next station.
Yep thats a problem, but I think that happens on all lines.
You should make a video about the future metro line that will be built in Jabodetabek
Just found your channel, love your contents. Keep it up :)
Thank you
you forget to mention lrt jabodebek is integrated with Whoosh... Whoosh... Whoosh... Yes!
At someone who works on north jakarta, they need to expand the tanjung priok line at least to cilincing or marunda (cause i work at marunda, and i have to use motorbike everyday because gojek is fucking expensive and the jaklingko/non brt tj take around 45 mins-1 hour from tj priok to my workplace). I know its literally almost impossible but i can only hope
Cilincing is such an abandoned area it’s sad
Thankfully a 4 track line currently being built at various chokepoints in the Cikarang line like the Manggarai-Jatinegara 4 track which I hope to god is given top priority for completion, and the Bekasi-Cikarang 4 track which might sadly still be in the land aquisition phase
Thank you for making MRT line S tier.
Ur video is good bro, keep it up!
I currently live near Kramat station and I never use it cuz there are never any trains there. Cikini and Matraman is usually my go to though.
well made content ❤
Thank you
Stumbled upon this video and just realised this type of video is heavily inspired by CCP Grey.
Subbed and liked the video. This cures my homesickness, though xD
That was a good content, can you explain Surabaya train Rail line tier list from Gubeng line and Wonokromo line for future ?
Sure thing, though I've never been to surabaya so if I do decide to make it now, it will be purely based on research.
KRL Bogor Line is both a nightmare and a heavensent. You got a line connecting the three major cities of Indonesia (Jakarta-Depok-Bogor) into one line and make people from those cities be able to commute easily to other cities at a cheap price, however, the amount of bodies you have to go through during peak or non-peak hours, the horrible body odors of the people, the questionable sanitary issues with the carts and the stations, the regular pickpockets and rapists, and lastly the ungodly timing and confusing schedules made you think twice before boarding the train.
Even though the Cibubur Line of LRT Jabodebek is not a fast one, I think the Cibubur Line would fit best for the rush hour. I live near TMII, so if I want to go to CBD like SCBD, Thamrin, etc, I have two options: Corridor 9/9C of TransJakarta and Cibubur Line of LRT Jabodebek. On non-rush hour, I prefer TransJakarta as it provides a cheaper and maybe faster commuting option. The thing is, during rush hour, the traffic is a hell of traffic, especially between Cawang Sentral (Cawang UKI) to Tegal Mampang (Tegal Parang) bus stop and could go up to more than two hours from Pinang Ranti to Sudirman. God knows how grateful I am after the Cibubur Line was settled.
LRT Jabodebek according to a colleague working in Thamrin area from home in Cibubur and Bekasi Barat: They are so slow, that the time it takes to reach Dukuh Atas (and transfer to MRTJ/Transjakarta Koridor 1) is the same as driving a car.
This is also the case for LRTJ Kelapa Gading. It is so slow that the traffic jams of Kelapa Gading and awfully long traffic lights at Jl Pemuda matches the travel time of the light rail.
MRTJ is clearly the best, better than some of the world's major metro, even the ones in Tokyo - where it is modelled after. Singapore MRT (SMRT) which give the namesake for the system, now are becoming old people country's service, which makes their AC feels like a fan without chiller.
Interesting, thank you for giving a drivers prespective of Jakarta's rail network.
Next time I ride those, I should check the average speed with a gps speedometer.
I showed this to my mother living in tokyo she said "新宿には都市間電車が走っていますが、これほどひどいものではありません"
Which you can translate it via a google translate button underneath it. She's also surprised that there's no sidewalk in the most of the city
Yep, but Shinjuku is bigger than all our intercity train stations. Gambir is tiny considering how many intercity lines stop there.
And yes a large chunk of the city has no/very bad sidewalks, though there are also some really good ones like in Sudirman & Thamrin road.
Yep, We can't use the same card for the airport ticket
As of recently, you can use Flazz/TapCash and such for the airport train. Only one gate per station, not well signposted, kind of wonky not giving me confidence it'll works every time (making me miss the flight!), but kind of possible.
1000th subscriber :D
12:44 literal banshee screech
Great video! I want this level of English im struggling with my Vocabulary 😢
I would recommend someone to watch this
Will you do all the 14 transjakarta BRT corridors tire list? p.s. I dont know wether its good include the 14th corridor since its not yet "a brt" p.p.s oh you already did it , my bad
Il review corridor 14 sooner or later as its already a BRT line.
myself who is a frequent user for Transjakarta, KRL, and MRT says it's mostly accurate. Even tho the LRT is mostly new to the transit system of jakarta it's usually not that useful for me in terms of price due to the fact it being slightly more expensive compared to MRT or KRL Commuter line depending on how far do you want to go from one LRT station to another. Though it gives us access to the recently opened KCIC (Kereta Cepat Indonesia Cina) I just don't find it that useful for a daily commute for now.
living in near cikoko st is like you live in the center of civilization
sooo... the problem is they're not good at managing the schedule if they run CommuterLine and express/intercity trains on the same track
It seems so, that plus the sometimes already irregular frequencies before taking into account all the delays.
Jalur Cikarang gak salah tuh dikasih nilai segitu doang? Apa karena rata² lift di stasiunnya merek IJUF ya?
Sebenarnya kalo cuma bagian Bekasi - Kampung Bandan via Manggarai yang dihitung, Cikarang line bisa B tier.
Hanya saja bagian Kampung Bandan - Jatinegara via Senen yang agak nurunin nilainya karena headwaynya terlalu lama.
Semoga yt kecil ini bisa lebih gede bg nice one
Thank you
0:12 blåhaj 💙💙💙
You need to wait like 1 - 1,5 hours to wait for train to Jakarta Kota in Nambo and Cibinong Station 😢
I really hope one day our city has a circumferential train line.. and not more ringroads..
Yes, I do this maybe twice/thrice yearly trip from Tangerang to Cibubur and the ring roads have made driving significantly faster than transit. We're talking 50 minutes vs 3 hours here.
how do you top up e-money?
I use BCA atm, but I think you can also ask the cashier in alfamart.
@@shindoride good alternative since i dont have any bca account right now but I have the flazz card
In the cikarang loop, you just pray you would arrive in sudirman and not bekasi or maybe even tigaraksa
I mean, it's unlikely you will end up in Tigaraksa since thats in a different line.
Bro can u do the railbus in wonosobo
If I go there il try to review it
i wish KRL commuter expands its rail lines
U know what im gonna rate the NSL ( north south line ) singapore is good the line is very reachable from any resident and for the train last time i ride is like 20-30 years old train but i dont know why better then the holec KRL in indonesia so overall for NSL is 9/10
I think it maybe due to the management, I can see why the whole leaving the doors open, no ac and people on the roof might ruin the user experience.
15 min is the regular frequency of the baltimore lightrail 😭
Damn,
But is it on time/consistent?
I like this
kcic nya mana bg
KCIC kategorinya kereta antar kota, video ini khusus untuk Kereta dalam kota.
Tapi nanti KCIC dapat videonya sendiri