It's a missed opportunity how almost non-existent the public transport is in newly built BSD area, like it would be massive money generator if they had a good connected public transport, but they didn't or a bit slow, either way such a missed opportunity, good video 👍
@@revimfadli4666Just make the bus look like a train and called it ART, you'll get a more attractive bus 🤣 In all seriousness though as long as there is more interest from the people at the top to make any public transportation I think developers or local gov should follow with their transit oriented development.
@@dika3127 well does the IKN ART have a promising TOD? Or will it be as disappointing as KCIC Karawang, Padalarang, and Tegalluar? 🤣 A good TOD can make questionable transit work, just look at Japan's monorails
IIRC the D12 suggestion was supposed to be JAK 97 Mikrotrans (Terminal Depok - Lebak Bulus) as the replacement of S16 (Terminal Depok - Pondok Labu). Going through Limo, Cinere and Mayapada Hospital. But for some reason, it hasn't happened yet. I'm afraid if the existing Depok Angkots (With their rustbucket shitboxes lol) might intervere with the route considering what happened to the recently ran D10A AC Angkot and 9H before the terminus was moved to Universitas Pancasila. Perhaps some bureaucracy also makes it impossible to happen. Also I'd definitely agreed with the D31/32 considering that Jati Asih seriously needed a public transit network connecting Jakarta. Considering that only options there are either Angkot to Bekasi, Pinang Ranti and Pondok Gede and Mayasari Bakti bus AC 52 A (Jati Asih - Tanah Abang) and AC 05 A (Jati Asih - Blok M, only operates during morning and evening on weekdays).
Naik tol baru nanti busnya bunyi2 karena tol2 baru pada longgar jarak antar segmentnya jadi tiap berapa detik *grek*. Apalagi klo naik bus Laksana tambah ribut
P11 would be my favorite line, since I live in Cibinong. I wish it would come true. But I much prefer if the line goes via Jalan Raya Bogor instead Tol Jagorawi, and the line continues to Baranangsiang, replacing Miniarta.
It's a crucial thing when it comes to Cibinong. Why not? Cibinong City Mall is a well-built mall with lots of shops inside, and the roads are great as Jakarta. But the only way to get to Cibinong is only by CommuterLine, but it took so long to get to the Nambo Lines. If the bus could go directly into Stadion Pakansari is better but I think if stops into Cibinong City Mall is more than enough. Adding more stops in Cibinong such as Cibinong Mall, SMAN 1 Cibinong, Cibinong Square, and Ramayana Cibinong/Cibinong Station are better but it's up to your opinion. Moving to the S lines, S23 is pretty good but it's too risky when the bus starts to exit in Tol Pamulang. It's way too crowdy and it took more than half an hour to get completely exit from the toll. I don't know when this moment will actually happen but I've had this on weekend afternoon. But in the morning, the toll seems fine at least.
Nice idea, me as the user of public transport are one million percent agree to have released all of the mentioned route. Its no matter if wants to use Lowdeck metrotrans bus type. So it can be accessible for those all people leave in Tangerang, Depok, Bekasi, and Bogor Pakuan.
T1x lines you mentioned should start at Poris, like the way it currently is. T12 can be routed through Modernland and Tangerang City Hospital, and Tangcity Mall is already served by all the current T routes and Line 2 of Tayo Tangerang. A route I would propose is T31, Kalideres - Summarecon Serpong. It will go on MH Thamrin (yes, the route exits Gading Serpong through that damned intersection), intersecting with S11 and T12. Then meeting T11 at Jend. Sudirman, then all the way to Kalideres. There will be conflict on N1 (Pantura) road, but it doesn't cannibalize the whole green angkot route anyway. Also, is there no better terminus than Jelambar? Lowdeck is the way; it's less disruptive and more accessible friendly. Fight me.
For the T31, good idea, I know a friend from University that use the green angkot from Kalideres to Gading Serpong enterance, then gojek all the way to UMN so there's definitely demand. And for the S15, well whats important is that it connects to CP. Jelambar as the terminus is the bare minimum but alternatives like Harmoni/Monas is welcome. What do you suggest the terminus of the S15 be?
If done correctly with measures to prevent cars from using it, it will be a work of art. Quick & cheap way to give rapid transit access to more people. Might make a future video on that idea.
So like corridor 13 but with the profit incentives of toll ways? Win win (unless it's like sunter-pulogebang which is yet to see any bus stop up there)
Well the first MRT and LRT in jakarta were completed in 2020s,look at neighbouring Countries Kuala lumpur already had MRT in 2015 and Thailand's first MRT line was first completed in 2004,so Indonesia already late into the party,and the population already too crowded and it will be hard to build any public transport in the city
your D12 and D3 reminds me... do we still have that purple P.O. Deborah buses that run Lebak Bulus - Depok? I used to ride them in my university days. Well, my right hand and right foot did, the rest of my body usually hangs out in the street to dry
Never seen them. I frequently go to Lebak Bulus since thats where I use the JR Connexion line to go home and I have made a pretty lengthy bus compilation video there but I never saw that bus pass by
Wake up in the morning, realizing those S15 and S16 are almost have no chance to be exist, day ruined. BTW man do you know how I can go from SMS area to Jakarta after 20.30pm? without using gojek to nearest S11 or T11 stop of course.
The last direct bus from SMS to Jakarta which is the DAMRI JR Connexion leaves SMS at around 18.20 (best to join WA group for live tracking). You basically have to use the S11/T11, but if you don't want to gojek your way there, you can use the R19 angkot (the blue angkot on the side of SMS), take the one across the street from SMS and it will take you to the S11. Though I'm not sure how frequent the R19 is at that time.
FR doesn't have to be ran by TJ, private ops need to step up their game too, don't just rely too much on TJ. Although not to deny that if TJ ran those lines, means we get integrated tariff by default which is super (cuz 100% sure they gonna use low deck busses, which is imo fair for routes that extends outside Jakarta). Same with surrounding local govt, and private land dev should plan a robust transit with the help of govt. so their land aint gonna be american car-centric mess (also stop copying stupid american zoning & suburb layout pls)
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It's a missed opportunity how almost non-existent the public transport is in newly built BSD area, like it would be massive money generator if they had a good connected public transport, but they didn't or a bit slow, either way such a missed opportunity, good video 👍
If only bus transit oriented development is seen as lucrative as rail based ones
@@revimfadli4666Just make the bus look like a train and called it ART, you'll get a more attractive bus 🤣
In all seriousness though as long as there is more interest from the people at the top to make any public transportation I think developers or local gov should follow with their transit oriented development.
@@dika3127 well does the IKN ART have a promising TOD? Or will it be as disappointing as KCIC Karawang, Padalarang, and Tegalluar? 🤣
A good TOD can make questionable transit work, just look at Japan's monorails
IIRC the D12 suggestion was supposed to be JAK 97 Mikrotrans (Terminal Depok - Lebak Bulus) as the replacement of S16 (Terminal Depok - Pondok Labu). Going through Limo, Cinere and Mayapada Hospital. But for some reason, it hasn't happened yet. I'm afraid if the existing Depok Angkots (With their rustbucket shitboxes lol) might intervere with the route considering what happened to the recently ran D10A AC Angkot and 9H before the terminus was moved to Universitas Pancasila. Perhaps some bureaucracy also makes it impossible to happen.
Also I'd definitely agreed with the D31/32 considering that Jati Asih seriously needed a public transit network connecting Jakarta. Considering that only options there are either Angkot to Bekasi, Pinang Ranti and Pondok Gede and Mayasari Bakti bus AC 52 A (Jati Asih - Tanah Abang) and AC 05 A (Jati Asih - Blok M, only operates during morning and evening on weekdays).
I'm sorry but the concept of D13 layout is something i'm praying to happen. just for the fact that i live nearby the line 😊
as south tangerang citizen, we really need mrt
rute usulan yg w suka
D12
D13
S23
T14
P21
karena pada lewat Tol baru, jd bisa sekalian cobain jalan Tol baru
Naik tol baru nanti busnya bunyi2 karena tol2 baru pada longgar jarak antar segmentnya jadi tiap berapa detik *grek*. Apalagi klo naik bus Laksana tambah ribut
Maybe you can make a video as well on (N)BRT lines that should be revived/exist, it'll be cool!
Good idea, while not necessarily the video i'm prioritizing right now, il do it eventually
Next coba bahas, bekasi daerah harapan indah bro, daerah situ ada sih 2B, tapi siapa tau anda punya usulan yang menarik😁
P11 would be my favorite line, since I live in Cibinong. I wish it would come true. But I much prefer if the line goes via Jalan Raya Bogor instead Tol Jagorawi, and the line continues to Baranangsiang, replacing Miniarta.
Transjakarta needs to get permission to run buses within other jabodetabek cities because we can't trust the private sector to run buses on their own.
YOOO SHINDO RIDE COOKED AGAIN
next coba bahas, bus rute M.06 kampung rambutan - bogor non ac min 😁
It's a crucial thing when it comes to Cibinong. Why not? Cibinong City Mall is a well-built mall with lots of shops inside, and the roads are great as Jakarta. But the only way to get to Cibinong is only by CommuterLine, but it took so long to get to the Nambo Lines. If the bus could go directly into Stadion Pakansari is better but I think if stops into Cibinong City Mall is more than enough. Adding more stops in Cibinong such as Cibinong Mall, SMAN 1 Cibinong, Cibinong Square, and Ramayana Cibinong/Cibinong Station are better but it's up to your opinion.
Moving to the S lines, S23 is pretty good but it's too risky when the bus starts to exit in Tol Pamulang. It's way too crowdy and it took more than half an hour to get completely exit from the toll. I don't know when this moment will actually happen but I've had this on weekend afternoon. But in the morning, the toll seems fine at least.
Well at this point, I guess Cawang Central should just be a Transjakarta Bus Terminal because the potential lines are quite
Alternative video title: How to overload Cawang Sentral
Cawang must have more perons, another side for transjabodatek and they are integrated as well whatever if the bus are low deck
Personally for me, I'd suggest an S or T line that goes from Kalideres - Poris Plawad - Raya Serpong - BSD Serpong then to Intermoda via The Breeze
I've thought of that line too, but because of personal biases, it goes via Gading Serpong
@@shindoride Maybe dual like 6A/6B
I live in Palmerah and used to go to UMN weekly. Oh how does a S15 would help
Just 8K right in front of my Kost to Jelambar before connecting to GS
Nice idea, me as the user of public transport are one million percent agree to have released all of the mentioned route. Its no matter if wants to use Lowdeck metrotrans bus type. So it can be accessible for those all people leave in Tangerang, Depok, Bekasi, and Bogor Pakuan.
jatiasih - tanah abang mentioned ^_^
T1x lines you mentioned should start at Poris, like the way it currently is. T12 can be routed through Modernland and Tangerang City Hospital, and Tangcity Mall is already served by all the current T routes and Line 2 of Tayo Tangerang.
A route I would propose is T31, Kalideres - Summarecon Serpong. It will go on MH Thamrin (yes, the route exits Gading Serpong through that damned intersection), intersecting with S11 and T12. Then meeting T11 at Jend. Sudirman, then all the way to Kalideres. There will be conflict on N1 (Pantura) road, but it doesn't cannibalize the whole green angkot route anyway. Also, is there no better terminus than Jelambar?
Lowdeck is the way; it's less disruptive and more accessible friendly. Fight me.
For the T31, good idea, I know a friend from University that use the green angkot from Kalideres to Gading Serpong enterance, then gojek all the way to UMN so there's definitely demand.
And for the S15, well whats important is that it connects to CP. Jelambar as the terminus is the bare minimum but alternatives like Harmoni/Monas is welcome. What do you suggest the terminus of the S15 be?
What will happen if the goverment make all Jabodetabek highway have 2 bus lane on both way right most line?
Like south korea?
paling di embat juga ujung"nya sama mobil kyk bahu jalan
Lihat Transjakarta koridor 😂
If done correctly with measures to prevent cars from using it, it will be a work of art. Quick & cheap way to give rapid transit access to more people.
Might make a future video on that idea.
So like corridor 13 but with the profit incentives of toll ways? Win win (unless it's like sunter-pulogebang which is yet to see any bus stop up there)
We should get a transjabodetabek line from Sudirman. After T11 was moved now people have to go to other places first
asking for headway schedules for a non-rail is too much to ask for a place like jkt
Well the first MRT and LRT in jakarta were completed in 2020s,look at neighbouring Countries
Kuala lumpur already had MRT in 2015 and Thailand's first MRT line was first completed in 2004,so Indonesia already late into the party,and the population already too crowded and it will be hard to build any public transport in the city
your D12 and D3 reminds me... do we still have that purple P.O. Deborah buses that run Lebak Bulus - Depok? I used to ride them in my university days. Well, my right hand and right foot did, the rest of my body usually hangs out in the street to dry
Never seen them. I frequently go to Lebak Bulus since thats where I use the JR Connexion line to go home and I have made a pretty lengthy bus compilation video there but I never saw that bus pass by
Not anymore, now they're focusing on tour buses (pariwisata)
Kalideres to whatever in Tangerang is needed bruh, that terminal held lots of wasted potential.
Wake up in the morning, realizing those S15 and S16 are almost have no chance to be exist, day ruined. BTW man do you know how I can go from SMS area to Jakarta after 20.30pm? without using gojek to nearest S11 or T11 stop of course.
The last direct bus from SMS to Jakarta which is the DAMRI JR Connexion leaves SMS at around 18.20 (best to join WA group for live tracking).
You basically have to use the S11/T11, but if you don't want to gojek your way there, you can use the R19 angkot (the blue angkot on the side of SMS), take the one across the street from SMS and it will take you to the S11. Though I'm not sure how frequent the R19 is at that time.
@@shindoridewhere is wa group link?
I don't know if im allowed to share the link publicly, my suggestion is to ask Damri on social media
Koridor s11 bisa aja lewat alam sutera dan dilanjutkan sampe stasiun rawa buntu, dan s24 dari alam sutera ke pluit via pik
Kalo S15/S16 udah jalan boleh, tapi kondisi gini nanti gw makin susah naik S11 😆
great content
FR doesn't have to be ran by TJ, private ops need to step up their game too, don't just rely too much on TJ. Although not to deny that if TJ ran those lines, means we get integrated tariff by default which is super (cuz 100% sure they gonna use low deck busses, which is imo fair for routes that extends outside Jakarta).
Same with surrounding local govt, and private land dev should plan a robust transit with the help of govt. so their land aint gonna be american car-centric mess (also stop copying stupid american zoning & suburb layout pls)
New vid