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- In this episode of Inside the Trojans' Huddle, the WeAreSC crew discusses the USC Trojans' 38-20 loss to UCLA and the state of the program following a disappointing 2023 regular season.
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Very entertaining show! First of all, took a little bit of the sting from the EMBARRASSMENT HOME Loss to our crosstown rival. For coach LR, '" if the rule you followed, led you to this, then what good was the rule?"
Mark and Chris made excellent points👉 This is by far the best SC podcast. Thanks Greg, Eric, Chris and Mark ‼️
Riley reminds me of the freshly minted Service Academy 2nd Lieutenant, telling a hardened sergeant how to fight in combat. I speak from experience. In this case, the long-suffering fans are the Sargent.
The We Are SC folks are my Trojan go-to. You four gentleman are like a sports-version of the Hoover Institution’s Goodfellows panel that I rely on for geopolitical current events. Sorry for the Stanford reference but if you know the show the comparison is meant as a true compliment. Fight On! ✌️
Both the USC offense and defense were based on being finesse groups. Nice if you can pull it off, but it's revealing if not. Bring back the power and physicality, then add some finesse.
Riley is absolutely on the hotseat. He kept Grinch when everyone knew it was a mistake, so now its on him.
Wouldn’t have made a difference this year. Defense wouldn’t have been any better than it is. It takes good players more than good coaching. You can’t win the Kentucky Derby with a plow horse. Just saying.
@@billyjamison5265 Bull. There's talent there. A lot of it sat on the bench most of the season bc these morons play favorites and can't evaluate talent. Top if off with their inability to develop talent and you have this joke of a season. Real coaches would have done much better.
UCLA was much more physical then USC. That was the biggest issue. Not the only one though
LR has the softest programs in football. Get used it.
Keys for successful program: 1. Good owner (the school president) 2. GM ( Athletic Director) 3. Head coach (Howard Jones, John Mckay / Robinson, Pete Carroll) 4. the QB 5. The trenches: OL /DL. Build it they (recruits) will come. Lots of soul searching and elbow grease to get the USC football program back to glory,
I agree except the QB priority order. You can win any game without the best QB, but we proved again the best QB cannot win without decent men in the trenches. The QBs first job is to distribute the ball to the athletes and speed demons, and that make s the O hum. And only when that's not possible do you want him down field much. We proved that against Utah last year. No hammy and we win that game. That was just terrible and I fault CLR for allowing him to continue to play, but then painting F-U-C-K U-T-A-H on his fingernails is something I blaem CLR for as well. He also did it again in this ucla disaster we just had.
Coach Riley has probably lost the locker room.
gRwinch lost the locker room in 2022- 2023, Riley definitely lost it after the Colorado game.
Can those with any pull at all at USC please make the football program get rid of the fricken towel waivers on the sidelines? It is such an embarrassment to the school and program.
I think this comment is correct. I can see why someone dreamed up the idea of adding energy to the sidelines. But this makes USC look even more like a soft team than it already does. Please give those dancing towel guys a participation trophy each, and get them off of our sidelines. Replace them with huge, violent, angry offensive and defensive linemen and then we will be in business, ready for the BIG10.
Riley’s synchronized towel waiver boys are BEYOND embarrassing! That SH*T should NOT be allowed at USC. But this is what Riley is! All flash and NO substance. While we’re at it, please get rid of the ridiculous DJ too! Just a bunch of GOD awful noise.😡
Happy Thanksgiving to each of you, and thanks for your analysis and efforts throughout the season. Looking forward to a much better season next year. Fight On.
USC’s greatest teams were with homegrown talent!!!We have the BEST HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY BEST TALENT!!! Recruit them and Develop them
USC doesn't lack talent that's not the problem now. I do think Riley needs to hit the local scene harder though never the less
The talent is right in our freakin' backyard, as you said! But with coaching like this, results like this, recruiting surely gets trickier! The new DC is really the big piece to the puzzle, have to get that hire right! Lastly, Riley's post game comments are extremely troublesome, completely glossing over how bad this team looks and how far they have to go! Unmitigated disaster, wasting once in a generation QB and now entering Big 10 with NO momentum whatsoever.
They are a hot bed for the rest of the country so thank you. Oregon loves Mater Dei and Bosco.
Teams have figured out SC. They are QB heavy passing offense. One dementional, and defense doesn't seem to be important to Lincoln Riley.
SC has good players, they are not being used correctly. Pete Caroll and Norm Chow would've had this team in the Playoffs.
LR is not a head coach, LR failed to build the traditional USC football culture. Character Building is job number one for a head coach. USC made a mistake in hiring LR, USC failed to look under the hood.
Bullllllshit
Don't forget Spencer Rattler at OU. The only QB he didn't inherit and how did that work out for the Sooners.
Remember CPC's priorities? This crap didn't happen on his watch, not even at the end when he was tired. Incoming strategy; HC is a defense guy by trade, hire best S&C coach in the land, recruit your rear end off, hire the best OC you can find and the best line coaches in the land. Priorities; #1 take care of the football, #2 be physical-practice hard, #3 preach accountability [assignments- practice team following, [all that buy-in stuff] followed by constant motivation [tackling-fellow player], #4 Finish-Mr. November, 4th Q, play till whistle blows , #5 get people involved open practice - captains - awards- celebs [though I never want Snoop around] whatever to keep the energy going. Do we do any of this now? ANY? CLR doesn't really seem to even have a philosophy after all despite the hype in getting him hired.
Great post - championship teams have a culture that fosters confidence and determination, togetherness and toughness. All the things you mentioned are necessary for consistent excellence ( Alabama, Ohio State ) and we saw what that looked like in years past, with Jones, McKay, Robinson and Carroll and an athletic department that made the right moves, ran efficiently. I'm hoping our highly respected new AD can put her fingerprints on our football program and help lead us back to glory.
Simple brilliant as always guys. Hilarious humor at the end. My "go to" vlog/podcast for all things SC football.
One issue in addition to all things already mentioned about the collapse this year and the "no show" for the ucla game was that this team was playing it's 9th consecutive Power 5 game without a bye or cupcake. Thanks PAC 12 schedulers for reaming SC yet again. What other Power 5 team has to do that? Certainly no SEC football team.
The first thing that any alcoholic must do on the road to recovery is to admit that they have a problem. Coach Riley sounds like he is finally admitting that he has a problem. Now, we'll see if he can make it through the recovery program and become a REAL head coach. BTW, kudos to Chris for guest hosting during technical difficulties. Always fun to see the counselor take over the mike.
Arledge looks like he's been on a bender since Saturday night
I said it before. After six years of watching Riley both as an OC and a HC. It is glaringly obvious the guy is an X's and O's architect. He just ain't no coach.
Frank Loyde Wright could draw a hell of a building, yet he couldn't drive a nail. lot's of luck.
USC is stuck with Lincoln Riley.
Hey guys I think last year may have been an easier schedule but also there's a kid in Minnesota named Jordan Addison that I feel like made a big difference also in that offense. This years it seems like either the play calling sucks or the WRs can't get open. We didn't have that issue last year and as a rookie we're seeing guys struggling to cover Addison in the NFL. Mario Williams was Caleb's #1 target at OU and he is certainly talented and has good hands. Why he plays one snap a game I have no idea. I'm starring to think Riley is just a glorified QB coach. We have better RBs this year but we rarely use them even when they are running well. The TE came out of nowhere against WAS and made some plays but then we went away from him. UT's coach is a great coach because if something is working he's going to shove it down your throat until you stop it. What made Carrols teams so good is that every position was a threat in the offense. You can game for a couple receivers but it's hard to game for the WRs the RBs and the TE in the passing game. Pete utilized all of them. Crazy to say but I'm glad Caleb is leaving so we can see what Lincolns made of. He will be forced to look at all positions to figure out how he will win next year
Mario Williams hasn't done anything this year and he what's a starter for most of the year.
Coach Riley Stalker
@smedleybutler8787 that's my point. He has less than half the yards he had last year. He forget how to run routes? The game caught up to him? Lol. It's coaching.
I can see us going 6-6 next season and actually showing progress, the way Pete Carroll did in 2001.
I’m looking forward to seeing how LR calls plays with a full game of Miller Moss, as QB1. He never appeared to call plays to help Caleb, when he was under pressure. Should be interesting. 🤔
only if the players give a shyyte
I’ve heard rumors that a “smoking” culture is becoming a problem with the players. Will need to be addressed.
Momentum is in full effect for Reggie. CW may return. Recruit from the many LA URBAN HS schools.
7 -5? They were really 5-7, because they beat AZ and Cal by one point, the former in triple overtime and the latter because Cal went for a 2-point conversion on the last play of the game. THEY WERE REALLY 5-7. And, hey, if CO had recovered the onside kick on the last possession, then they, too, would have, in all likelihood, driven down the field on that horrible defense and beat USC. The Trojans were that close to being 4 - 8.
A W is a W… no matter how you spin it! It was an ugly season, no doubt.
with that logic, you could say that USC beat Utah then.
TRUE LOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOL
and then Claydough Hell-ton would be laughing his as off. Maybe he is anyway.
3 yards rushing against Staypuft's defense 😂😅 😮 😢
USC is fearful of the NCAA and the Civil Courts. Both have punished USC considerably. Still, it’s past time to move forward. Add the Williams and Bush banners.
B1G is a 3 team conference. Not unlike the SEC. This year the PAC12 was the strongest conference in America. The B1G-16 will be much stronger next year. USC is rebuilding, not reloading.
😂 the BIG 18
How can he complain about recruiting battles with ucla when he beat Texas in recruiting battles for years at Oklahoma and both those teams are far better than USC and have a better rivalry than usc ucla. Recruiting battles between usc and ucla should always go int USC’s favor, that’s like Oklahoma losing recruiting battles to Oklahoma state or Texas losing recruiting battles to Texas tech or bama losing recruiting battles to auburn. Shit just doesn’t happen. It’s literally unheard of.
If USC wants to get better, BUY the best coaches to replace most if not all of the existing assistants and start buying players like you have Phil Knight money.
I am watching these rivalry games today and realizing how freaking frustrated I am at our football year. I know it’s just a game, of young men and that the pendulum inevitably swings in both directions for all great programs…. But this year really sucks. What a wasted opportunity. Tragic is the only word that comes to mind. 0:21
Coca cola shirt says 2 a days every day after Thanksgiving.. when do they study for class 😂
The hot seat is actually the criticism from the media that is in full force. The question is, will he want to put up with the scrutiny, or will he just leave for the NFL or a lower profile job. It’s hard to tell if he is cut out to handle this media scrutiny. While I have the same thoughts, we’re all saying the same thing, but… the consequences of this trashing will undoubtedly have a negative effect on recruiting.. Even kids who grew up idolizing USC will listen to the bashing and choose a friendlier place to go.
That has got to be the longest advertising ever!!!!,
I totally disagree with Eric, and more in agreement with Greg...That schedule next year, is going to be way tougher than what the typical USC fan understands. Because, USC lacks discipline, toughness, and tenacity. We have a lot more talent than a lot of those schools, but I live on the East Coast, and I see Big-10 constantly on rotation with a lot of alumni in the DMV from Big-10. SC will better learn quickly how to tackle or Rutgers, Maryland, Wisconsin and Michigan St, all mid-tier teams in the Big-10, will give them fits, because it won't be 4 wide sets. They want to run downhill!!
USC football team, offense, defense and special teams, performed markedly worse in the latter half of the season than it did in the first half of the season. That's with a Heisman Trophy winner at QB!
They missed on almost every portal addition. Riley doesnt have this program cafing about tradition or rivalries. A rotten core at usc right now.
SC played like they didn't care because most of the starters were transfers. They didn't grow up in socal watching this rivalry nor did they care about the tradition. That's what happens when you refresh your roster with transfers
lol the USC Trojans season is equally as funny as the Colorado Buffs lol… How do you only get 3 rushing yards vs. UCLA? 😂
I don't think it is as easy as bringing an offensive minded coach and excellent defensive coordinator. If this was true why hasn't this done before? Why hasn't other schools taken this approach. The point I am trying to make is 100% Lincoln Riley. He is not a leader of men. Also, its culture. The fact that USC players quit during that game speaks to more about belief in program. Do you really think Lincoln and flip the switch?
Did LR put a 2nd heisman over winning games. Loyd looked good and got chunks of yards every time I watched, (duck fan). To fix D. Change schematics to stop run. Keep everything in front of you as db's. Make teams have multi play drives. Move Dante to recruiting coord.
Usc is soft, better fix that quick. BIG schools will run the ball 50 times a game against that team.
I just loved this show. I feel bad for Greg with his connection. I could hear him trying to reconnect but no video! Anyway, back to the topic at hand. If CLR makes a good DC hire that will be the first good move. The second one will be to start handing out bag$ of ca$h to those blue chip five star players on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball.
USC has the ability to do so, and even with more cash than any program in the country. Let's please use that kind of leverage and find ourselves competing at the highest levels. Those two things, along with good coaching and player development on both sides of the ball will help tremendously on our way to truly becoming an elite team.
I hope ou and southern Cal play in a bowl game this year
❤️❤️❤️❤️ “We tell it like it is?” Really? Why not admit Lincoln Riley is a Fraud? Your rich history has been tarred and feathered by Lincoln. The West Coast Cupcake conference will soon find out next year when Riley faces an actual strength conference unless he bolts as history shows running from the SEC. Hopefully you’ll keep listening to his Dale Carnegie speeches to see another disastrous season.
“Cupcake?” Big12 was far superior to the (3-team) B1G this year. USC has a winning percentage to every B1G opponent they’ve ever played. Two mixed years of Riley are troubling, no doubt. Let’s see what he does moving forward.
Why wouldn’t LR be thinking about the NFL? He’s got a buddy on his staff that got fired from a CFB program after a failed season, and hired by an NFL team in the same year. Lol
If we're gonna do this "couple of plays away" thing, then we are a couple of plays away from being 4-8.
Holy Jesus - Utah knocked us out of the El Paso Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl?!?? Now it's the 9 mile drive to the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl? F*CK ME RUNNING.
By the way, UNLV will CREAM us. 7-6. Lead the nation in giving up explosive plays 2 years in a row now. Really shittin' the bed here.
SMU Symons
SDSU
NDSU
Utah DC
Leonhard.
There's your interview list.
And yes i am a Trojan; PhD in psychology 2008.
USC did Oklahoma favor by taking their coach and OU players then we have a better coach, better players and quarterback and defensive coordinator
The New Big Ten ser charge on next year's season tickets
GREAT SHOW!!! Very enjoyable. Usc did their homework and paid top dollar for a coach who is all hat - no cattle. Everyone who saw him at his last job bitched about the same things y'all are whining about now. Will lr stay at usc? Not as long as the rest of us are hoping.
Report: Caleb Williams not playing because he was denied partial ownership of the Holiday Bowl.
Did any A&M transfers pan out anywhere? This culture thing must be real
Explain the NIL?good or bad?
Agree with Erik and Chris on the changes coaches and programs need, but N to O no to Plaschke-esque snarky entitled asks.
Anthony Lucas will be fine. He’s only a true sophomore. A good DC will develop him
As a Bruin alum, I really appreciate your in depth analysis of your team. I just hope we didn't wake a sleeping giant:)
You did not, but we saved pudgy fingers Kelly's job so he can keep stealing our recruits. And we will keep sleepwalking until CLR has no choice - even then his ego wont let him.
USC hasn't been relevant as a football team since WK 4: Total Breakdown as a Program! SC Might be relevant in the Mountain West Conference? "I said Might Be!"🤧😀
Lincoln Riley's been Flirting with disaster for a few years. To the Untrained eye 👀......he was a few plays away from losing 3 or 4 more games. He was a few plays away from losing 7 games in 2021...? Luckily for Oklahoma they was able to win several close games that year. He won some close games last year and still lost 3. He flirted with disaster and never could fix the problems. All of it got exposed when he had to play some good competition the past 6 games of this year.
I LOVE HOW SMUG THE PANEL IS AFTER THEIR TEAM SPENT 110 MILLION DOLLARS ON A JUNK COACH. LOLOLOLOL
r towards the end of the year you can tell the team was beat up ..they look the same way this year at Game 7.
Chris an Dan Lanning look about the same age. Did he know Dan in college?
It seems ucla is more prepared to move to big 10 then usc
Marc hates UCLA so much which makes it all the more great that UCLA smacked tf outta SC lol
From an ou fan, just fire the yoga coach Wylie and find a good s&c coach and you'll be on the right track. Lr is a soft coach so this may still be a bigger issue than you think.
This same exact song and dance happened to ou when Riley took over for Stoops and ou is still recovering from it.
Pay recruits. Period
JUJU IS TAKING VISITS AFTER SAYING WHY GO VISIT WHEN USC WAS NUMBER 1. THIS SEASON COULD REALLY HURT CLASSES AND PORTAL EXITS IF JEN AND CO DNT GET NIL OR CELEBS AND ALUMNI TO VISIT RECRUITS. I WOULD LOVE WILL FERRELL TO COME TO MY HAME AND HOME. WE WAITING FOR YA JUJU AND OTHERS WITH WHAT THRYVE SAID OF CRIMSON GOLD BLOOD. OR OREGON JUST KEEP LOOTING CALI AS HE DOES SO WELL
Do we really need to see this team in a Bowl game.? I hope we don't play UNLV I'll be the laughing stock here in Vegas I won't be able to leave my house when SC gets killed 😢
Don't worry - USC is good enough for the Las Vegas Bowl!
Oline got beat on Saturday and Rice and tahj are the only WRs making an impact. Fumbles was by Lloyd, branch, rice killed us
Chris looks more disinterested than the O-line
Chris FTW🎉!
LR is a cancer on this team ... they would be better off just playing with no coaches ... just take turns running ML,AJ,DB ... easy
Reevaluate the talent. We were all wrong.
Listen USC fan…. Your team quit on you just like LR quit on Oklahoma. That is your new culture. Your Hiesmen winner doesn't even acknowledge his last home game for you because he doesn't care about USC. You guys tried to pay for success and it has failed.
Hot seat ur in hot seat stop talking negative. My 70 years of age HO don’t quit I will die a Trojan win or lose good or bad. H O I would not want to be on the front line during WAR.Trojans fight on
SC will never win a National Title under Riley. He is innovative on offense no doubt about it. But an overall national title coach? I just dont see it. On a top level of toughness does Lincoln Riley match Saban, Smart, Meyer.. on a second level, Harbaugh, Day, Brian Kelley. On a third level, Lanning, Wittingham, Peterson. On a fourth level James Franklin, Deboer, Swinney. Lincoln Riley will never change his practices to allow his offensive skill guys to get hit in risk of injury being 1 on 1’s. This is a Mike Leach rule that Lincoln follows as all Air Raid coaches follow. Mike Stoops could not co exist with Riley at OU and as bad as it was on defense this was the problem. It was scout team only for competition for game situations and tackling. An utter failure facing top teams & tackling in space. A top DC as in Leonhard will want to hire his own staff. Can Riley step aside and let his friendship in coaches as Brian Odom & Manning let go. Leonhard with all eggs in one basket must be allowed his own entire staff. Fire Bennie Wiley and let him produce his aerobic strength training DVD’s on QVC. Bennie has no business as a strength coach at any top program as well with SC. With a new QB coming in as talented as he is the Oline must be tough and run the ball dominating the line of scrimmage. Throw the bank at Bill Bedenbaugh at Oklahoma and your oline troubles will evaporate immediately!! Fight On!!
But you still out in the season losing the cow by probably 15 points that’s what this unexplainable about Lincoln Riley. I’m sorry, but a guy by the name of Lincoln in lacity Doesn’t belong in Southern California we need a regular guy may be a youth UNC grad
LR is not saying just a few tweaks etc. Greg you need to listen to everything he's said . Most of the chattering class hear what they want to hear and just spew it out. It's obvious you're a LR hater.
Yet another Sooner's $.02. GET A NEW STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH!!!
Just a suggestion for a new viewer of this show. Fast forward to Chris on every question as he is the most knowledgeable and entertaining. That way you don't have to hear Marc who is the Master of the Obvious, Erik who smiles the entire time he talks about his kids, and Greg who will tell you about the teams and stories of John McKay which happened 48-60 years ago.
Hey Chris , don’t be so sad. Hehe . There’s more 6-6, 7-5 to come.
Hang in there. You’re close. Boomer
great quesfion at 1:08
Fake tough guy kulkin.
You guys have had a horrible culture ever since Carrol left. LR doesn’t understand how to build a physical culture.
Why do you usc fans think you are some kind of Mecca for football. Ince Caleb leave you guys will have nothing. LR has zero loyalty to USC just like OU.
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