Heeltoe's Take On Alloy Crank Pulleys for Honda/Acura Engines

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  • Aluminium crank pulleys have been a popular upgrade for tuners for ages. Today, there is still a lot of hay made about the detrimental effects of billet crank pulleys on Honda engines because of removing a mystical item called a "harmonic balancer." Heeltoe's contention is that while harmonic dampers and balancers are important on many engines, Honda engines by-and-large aren't equipped with them. Run your billet crank pulley with confidence and enjoy the revs!
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  • @jamesj.litteriojr.433
    @jamesj.litteriojr.433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very well explained!!!!! My lightweight crank pulley made a definite difference with no issues and I redline it multiple times a night since I only drive it once or twice a week. "A Redline A Day Keeps The Carbon Away And The Mechanic At Bay" :)

  • @shadygrady80gaming
    @shadygrady80gaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate the video, very informative. just bought a Hashimoto underdrive pulley and was searching to bust a rumour before I busted my B16A.. Thank you again

  • @ayowser01
    @ayowser01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Adding lightweight/under drive pulleys really added response to the engine. It's noticeably quicker to acceletate, especially when rev-match/heel-toe shifting.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And your probably still running the stock flywheel right. Dont use an aluminum pulley. It will eventually destroy your oil pump and crank bearings!

    • @HondaAccordPerformance
      @HondaAccordPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I used a lightweight underdrive pulley on my 3000gt for 10 years zero issues. I’ve used an underdrive pulley on my Trailblazer ss for 30k miles zero issues.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HondaAccordPerformance Excellent. We were discussing Honda engines. Mainly the b series where the crankshaft runs through the oil pump.

    • @HondaAccordPerformance
      @HondaAccordPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimhiscott2918 The only issues with lightweight pullies I’ve seen on 3000gts are twin turbos making north of 500awhp at that point you wanna keep the stock heavy balancer because with a lightweight pulley it can cause the crank to flex, weaken and snap with higher horsepower applications.

    • @user-ml5ys7wh7w
      @user-ml5ys7wh7w 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have manual transmission you should try lightweight flywheel it will change the car 😂😂

  • @Aryck143
    @Aryck143 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video Marcus! Just got my underdrive and idler installed. Engine is revving better now :)

    • @socomelite1
      @socomelite1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But does the engine have any more pull under load? Not just in neutral?

    • @vanessayoga7522
      @vanessayoga7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you provide serpentine belt part # used with Underdrive pulley , thank you

  • @RobertoGarcia-ni8vl
    @RobertoGarcia-ni8vl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great professional communication. I appreciate your video.

  • @jerzeyonlyone
    @jerzeyonlyone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And this is why I buy with confidence with heeltoe 👌🏽

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! #HTinyourcorner

  • @EB240
    @EB240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much! ive been wondering about these, great information!

  • @alvarooliveira1791
    @alvarooliveira1791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just subscribed, what an AWESOME video!!!
    greetings from São Paulo mate!

  • @0371998
    @0371998 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you remarked that the crankshaft pulley of ralcorz has no black hub ! Is it a problem ?

  • @jrlude_
    @jrlude_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Been running a lightweight pulley (VMS) on my h23a vtec swapped (Honda Prelude). 60,000 miles going strong no issues.
    Thank you for this video however, its very reassuring!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love Honda engines! Free the revs!

    • @yeeztodge6654
      @yeeztodge6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm looking to get that pulley too, did u change the key way aswell?

    • @jrlude_
      @jrlude_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yeeztodge6654 nope same key!!

    • @jrlude_
      @jrlude_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yeeztodge6654 though I suggest buying a new key it's 10 dollars...

    • @big_lu32
      @big_lu32 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you run that crank pulley with the balance shaft delete?

  • @tommyhajimoto6968
    @tommyhajimoto6968 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the k24 crank pulley the same weight as the K20 crank pulley? I have a 04 RSX type S, I'm curious about the weight, I can't find anything on it.

  • @David-nb2bc
    @David-nb2bc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do endurance racing and would the light weight pulley affect the reliability of the K24 engine that are redline for 8 hours a day for an race weekend of about 25 hours total? I already have a lightweight steel flywheel.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว

      Without testing it is hard to say for certain. My opinion is, if it is a standard tolerance engine, something off the Honda factory line, it would be fine. If the engine is highly tuned, blueprinted, boosted or otherwise a critical build I would more likely recommend a Fluidampr or ATI unit, which we sell at Heeltoe.

  • @TrippyWoodStock
    @TrippyWoodStock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious how many pulleys I could swap for a Lightweight/UR pulley on my k24z3 motor on my 2.4 2010 accord? Looking into swapping the oem for lighter ones if available but not sure how many replacement pulleys I’d need

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have a 2-pulley kit with belt here for you: www.heeltoeauto.com/pulley-system/buddy-club-p1-crank-pulley-kit-2pc-honda-accord-2008-12-14-i-4-k24z3-w/ac-bc05-p1pk24z3-a.html

  • @KentBrakewell
    @KentBrakewell 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, very knowledgeable and complete!

  • @Sublimelime7
    @Sublimelime7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! i have A/C and PS delete on my 97 Type R and was worried that by switching to a single crank pulley would affect my engine

    • @haydenhoughtalen1244
      @haydenhoughtalen1244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You won’t be the first to find out👀 good luck this is bad news for a high revving engine

  • @patrickminor2756
    @patrickminor2756 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got my Unorthodox Racing pulley gonna get an install done along with a borla exhaust system on 10 gen 2.0 civic

  • @mayjahjay2297
    @mayjahjay2297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    would this be the same as changing out to a lighter flywheel ? would a lighter flywheel be required at the same time. ive heard reports saying a lighter flywheels puts the car in limp, will the lighter pulley do the same as well ?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Performance-wise yes the impact is the same. Lighter mass on the crank means faster revving and better acceleration. And sometimes yes people will say that the light flywheel is somehow not good for the engine.
      The "limp" mode is not a real thing, not in the Honda range. Some Hondas and Acuras with a lighter flywheel will get a check-engine light (not the same thing as "limp mode"). This is because the system in these cars that monitors engine misfires will detect minimal changes in the crankshaft speed that makes the system think the engine is misfiring. There isn't any performance impact to this light, but it is something annoying and you want if off. Many people use engine tuners to disable misfire detection to resolve it.

  • @FortyMikeMelodies
    @FortyMikeMelodies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i'd love to have a greater throttle response in my 04 rsx type s, just seems like when rev matching with my sparco pedals you almost have to give it a double tap on the gas instead of one.

  • @Lifeofshawnyg
    @Lifeofshawnyg ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 06 vq35de and im wondering wether i should run a lightweight pullry or fluid damper idk if my car comes stock with damper or if i need it what do you guys think

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว

      We aren't familiar enough with that engine to say for sure.

  • @LilasTools
    @LilasTools 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the review, I learned a lot thank you!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome!!

  • @aoescool
    @aoescool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ive used unorthodox on acura cl3.0 and just last week i put one on my v6 8th gen accord.. awesome upgrade

    • @popanda3652
      @popanda3652 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What else have you done to that 8th gen accord? I have one and am looking for a decent set of boltons before i get it tuned

    • @brandonneves4144
      @brandonneves4144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@popanda3652 Join the facebook group "8th Gen Honda Accord" and you'll see plenty of peoples builds, including mine. All the info you'd ever need to know.

    • @aoescool
      @aoescool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@popanda3652 oh sorry I didn't see this message till now sorry lol.. but yeah @brandon neves his car is really nice.. hopefully you joined the 8th gen group.. im Alex Edwards on there

    • @popanda3652
      @popanda3652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aoescool dont worry about it man. Drunk driver totaled it and insurance said theyd give me 3k for it so i couldnt afford a new one. I drive a 2001 acura tl now and am in the process of of installing a rear mount turbo. Im in the 8th gen group still though cuz i still believe the platform will be the next b or k series once people realize how easy it is to make power with the j series from that gen. I apreciate the reply nonetheless tho :)

  • @emmanuelalonso612
    @emmanuelalonso612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, so my question is, there going to be a problems if I want to install a lighter flywheel?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, I don't believe there would be at all.

  • @misunderstoodvtec8299
    @misunderstoodvtec8299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate I've just watched your video can I use the pulleys on a f20b5 sohc engine mean ing the f series engine any information will be appreciated 😊

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know of a pulley for a SOHC F-series.

  • @Sheenhunnit
    @Sheenhunnit ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have a Acura integra with the stock b18b1 could that engine be fine with a light weight pulley

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure it would!

  • @camerona3290
    @camerona3290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the part numbers for the CU2? Mainly the crank pulleys

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are on a bit of a hiatus at the time.

  • @cattran3960
    @cattran3960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need one for the b20b will the type r n1 work on non vtec engines what about vms pulleys? They don’t really make LW PULLEYS for b20 in general or all b series pulley the same I just want a little more pep in my step lol 😂 please help a brother out!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will! I have a few in stock in fact.

  • @snowleopard4689
    @snowleopard4689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @HeeltoeAuto At 4:15, on the lightweight pulley there are 4 distinct 'marks' along the outside diameter. Are those timing marks that are also present on the factory pulley in the same location relative to the hub key?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes those are timing marks.

  • @ronaldredlerjr3411
    @ronaldredlerjr3411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the stock oem lightweight pulley worth getting

  • @ArnavMazumder9
    @ArnavMazumder9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand that lightweight pulleys would play well with manual as upgrades. But how about cars with the auto trans? Such as the J35Z2 and not J35Z3?

  • @bjjerread153
    @bjjerread153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, you just sold a product to me!! I'll be buying one for my D series soon!!! Thanks 😊

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad ass! Look us up when ready!

  • @Gavvideu2
    @Gavvideu2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You bet! #HTinyourcorner!

  • @AndresGarcia-ep1pz
    @AndresGarcia-ep1pz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid Marcus. What pulley have you ran in your tsx?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unorthodox 3-piece underdrive kit.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's still on there, been on there for like a decade now! haha

  • @chasemcclary8861
    @chasemcclary8861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for the crank pully isn't it bad to not have a vibration dampener?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We address this concern in the video! Give it a watch and let us know if you have any more questions.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is, this guy is a shill.

  • @drsmooooovedre7819
    @drsmooooovedre7819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport Sedan 2.4L, do you sell a lightweight pulley for my vehicle?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry we do not. That engine has so little support :/

  • @ganzonomy
    @ganzonomy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the lightweight pulley be okay in a daily driver that I want a bit more life from? 2013 Accord EX-L V6 sedan.
    Thanks!
    Jason

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes absolutely it is perfectly good for a daily driver.

  • @adibz959
    @adibz959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation! I just want to ask, What is your opinion on using lightweight pulley on undersquare engine. Does it vibrate a lot? Planning on adding these on my car

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! What engine are you installing on?

    • @adibz959
      @adibz959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. 2NR-VE, a Daihatsu variant of Toyota 2NR-FE

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adibz959 I am sorry I am not familiar with that engine so I am not sure I can comment on it reliably.

  • @ryanosbourne9945
    @ryanosbourne9945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm saving up to get this and the clutch release system master and slave cylinder for my 2013 V6 coupe!

    • @armancha23
      @armancha23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm thinking of doing those with shifter bushings at the same time also. Any update?

    • @ryanosbourne9945
      @ryanosbourne9945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armancha23 Nothing yet. I'm still doing reading, but across the forums the guys who have done this already claim that it's a problem free upgrade.

  • @juniorcastro1665
    @juniorcastro1665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased the Buddy Club P1 Crank Pulley Kit, K-Series Applications (K20, K24), BC05-P1P for my 09 TSX from you. My mechanic was telling me that if we install it, the engine will make a lot of noise after. Is that true? Regardless of the answer, do you have a video or sound clip? If the engine will be very loud and sound like an older model Civic, I don't want it lol.

    • @Jaydogg209
      @Jaydogg209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it doesn't change the sound. Just make sure you buy a new crank bolt for your model because mine bent slightly on the top part of the bolt (not the threads) this is because u have to use a torch to remove and sometimes the bolt gets damaged. Better to have a brand new bolt to reinstall.

  • @matthewvalentine5848
    @matthewvalentine5848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love my light weight crank pulley on my 06 v6 accord

    • @abrahamlopez1635
      @abrahamlopez1635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what pulley did you buy? Does it make a difference? I read that this type of pulley has an ac problem

    • @midnightmystery544
      @midnightmystery544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strange question, but did it make the steering a little heavier?

  • @CoolFrijolez
    @CoolFrijolez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pulley separated from the rubber ring today on my stock TL-S , you think it messed up anything in the engine? Definitely going to upgrade to a lighter pulley. Thanks for this informative video.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I do not think this messed up your engine at all. We have replacement pulleys in stock at heeltoeauto.com!

    • @CoolFrijolez
      @CoolFrijolez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HeeltoeAuto I definitely will be purchasing one from you guys thank you!

  • @malx7756
    @malx7756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would my 04 TL based need a tune after installing(m/t)? Is there more than one pully that can be upgraded?
    Just received my short shift kit and high-flow third cat. Hoping to install soon!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not at all no, this part does not require recalibration of the ECU. We offer the crank and tensioner pulleys for the TL J-Series.

  • @VIP854
    @VIP854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so how do you install it without the pulley holder tool?

    • @JanetakaJJ
      @JanetakaJJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive been wondering that too? Did you ever find out?

  • @davidlunsford6155
    @davidlunsford6155 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a 2015 VW beetle. Automatic, gen 3 tsi 1.8t. would a light crank pulley or under drive pulley, which is what I'd like to do. Would this be able to work for it?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't really comment, we don't know enough about Volkswagen engines. Mostly just speaking about Honda engines here.

  • @Ieaker
    @Ieaker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this worth doing on my 2005 tsx 5AT?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah! It adds throttle response.

  • @danielcalquinhas447
    @danielcalquinhas447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The CTR N1 Pulley is a perfect example. If Honda can run a B16b at 9500rpm for 24 Hours straight you guys really think its not safe for your commute to the grocery store? Common guys LOL

  • @devoncanada2
    @devoncanada2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What belt would you run on the unorthodox pulleys for the 07 tsx? 🙂

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have replacement belts for underdrive systems on those cars on the Heeltoe site. Check it out there!

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DO NOT RUN A ALUMINUM PULLEY!!!!

    • @devoncanada2
      @devoncanada2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimhiscott2918 no worries bro lol still running my oem pulley. Spent the money in more important things

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devoncanada2 Get a Honda OEM N1 typeR pulley. Its a great damper for less then $100. Only 1.8 pounds and made by Honda! Its also got a slight underdrive to it. Been running mine for 3 years on my 650hp LS Vtec. No oil pump issues to date

    • @devoncanada2
      @devoncanada2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimhiscott2918 my stock pulley is perfect for what i have so far. I got a ported type s pump, 50 degree vtc, rdx injectors, ported rrc, and a few other goodies 💪

  • @breakbeats93
    @breakbeats93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Heeltoe what is the song called? 0:20 - 4:10 thank you! Thank you for the knowledge

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question, I am sorry I don't have the answer, our editor manages that and we don't have that info here.

    • @xenonsaccord4447
      @xenonsaccord4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate, I found it from another video: th-cam.com/video/b6jK2t3lcRs/w-d-xo.html

  • @slow_carsgarage7422
    @slow_carsgarage7422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u guys make a 72tooth trigger wheel that mates with the aluminium pulley ?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting question. I don't think they do. What is the application?

  • @automattic4202
    @automattic4202 ปีที่แล้ว

    What set will work on my 08 accord..k24z3

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have Buddy Club pulley sets for the 08-12 Accord yes: www.heeltoeauto.com/pulley-system/buddy-club-p1-crank-pulley-kit-2pc-honda-accord-2008-12-14-i-4-k24z3-w/ac-bc05-p1pk24z3-a.html

    • @automattic4202
      @automattic4202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. yeah I seen that one was more curious if the one for the tsx bc I want the ps one as well…just wasn’t sure if it would work bc the tsx has electric ps

    • @automattic4202
      @automattic4202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. awesome site though just wish the least desirable motor didn’t come in my favorite Honda 😂😂 support on the 8th gen 2.4 is few and far

  • @assassin_asa
    @assassin_asa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harmonic damper/balancer I do believe we mechanics just call it a harmonic balancer because its a combo and it flows off the tongue a little better. Its universally agreed that its 'the thing at the end of the crank that drives the serpentine belt'

    • @assassin_asa
      @assassin_asa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, working for an engine manufacturer, the names are all used interchangeably

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But you see, they shouldn't be used interchangeably because they do mean different things.

  • @keltalon
    @keltalon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Heeltoe you guys are very well respected what you say I trust! thanks for taking the time to make this video. A lot of us are in your corner as well.
    I get all my parts from these guys and they always deliver! Stay tune for more out of this j-series accord
    th-cam.com/video/Y5cf6FIi-m8/w-d-xo.html

  • @shawnstreeter3474
    @shawnstreeter3474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I use the stock belt or do I need a certain belt?

    • @Macfrugal_
      @Macfrugal_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depends on the size of your pulley, if using an underdrive pulley you will need to size your belts accordingly

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A stock diameter probably uses a stock size belt, Heeltoe offers appropriately sized belts for underdrive, smaller diameter pulleys.

  • @Darksyne
    @Darksyne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a worthwhile upgrade for Honda V6 Motors? I have a TL That still runs strong and I've been looking into getting one of these the next time I do a timing belt service on it. Are they also a reliable performance upgrade?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. Hightly recommended on your j-series!

  • @deathstalker176
    @deathstalker176 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question make fun of me if you want but I’m being very careful on what I do to my car. I just bought a light weight crankshaft pulley for my Acura rsx 2006 base model automatic. I hear a lot of mix feed back from it saying it destroy my car and others say it ran fine like nothing was done to it. I need help on if it’s safe to put on or don’t do it.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gavin we appreciate your concern, the video was made for you to get our opinions on it. In short, you'll be fine. Got ahead an install it and don't worry about the scary stories.

    • @deathstalker176
      @deathstalker176 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HeeltoeAuto what should I expect to get out of this light weight crankshaft? I’ve heard better acceleration but no hp gain, some said 3 to 4hp gain and some say nothing it’s just nice to look at

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathstalker176 The lighter weight of the pulley reduces the power needed to spin the engine. The revs should be a little more responsive and faster revving. It's not a big hp gain but part of a good performance package for a tuner. Fact: faster acceleration means more HP. So whoever said no power gain isn't really stating facts. it's not just a pretty part. It's effective. How could the car accelerate better but not have more power? that doesn't make sense.

  • @jorgereveron2108
    @jorgereveron2108 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys make this for the Honda fit 2008? L15A motor

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do! www.heeltoeauto.com/product.php?productid=64740

  • @ThePwak007
    @ThePwak007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nooo I already did my timing belt job and didn't even know this existed at the time...

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem! This is a really simple part to install, very little repeat work involved with the T-belt!

  • @matthewscarpetta
    @matthewscarpetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is an aluminum pulley safe for a SOHC D16A6 with a mild build? i'm reading that it can make your engine vibrate to death!

  • @nicselectronics81
    @nicselectronics81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to put my OBX set on my K24

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This does help with that initial resonse! Unfortunately it's just a little more pep, not a huge difference.

  • @sethallison5682
    @sethallison5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn’t Honda even sell an oem optional lightweight crank pulley for the original CTR with the b16b? If these were so bad I doubt Honda would sell them from their parts department.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes they did as a matter of fact, the N1 CTR pulley. We actually just got a shipment of five from Japan right now :)

  • @streetsofaz
    @streetsofaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what's the lightest pulleys brand can I buy

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      None if them!!!!

    • @Macfrugal_
      @Macfrugal_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unorthodox racing

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim that's kind of an odd comment, of course one of them is going to be lightest. just because you might not agree with somebody buying a light pulley doesn't mean that one of them isn't the lightest out of the rest.

  • @mmost5311
    @mmost5311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey do you know if a k20z1 crank pulley will fit on a base rsx k20a3?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure all the K20 pulleys fit the same yes.

    • @mmost5311
      @mmost5311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. thanks , im really curious about these lightweight pullies

  • @kserye0829
    @kserye0829 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an 08 TSX and im looking forward for this upgrade but im in canada.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This upgrade is fine for Canadians also.

  • @benedictddaisog
    @benedictddaisog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can i use that on k20 crv?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we have pulleys for the K-series.

  • @johnr154
    @johnr154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goes well with turbo?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In general I would say yes. HOWEVER, as boost pressure rises and toque increases the issue of crankshaft deflection becomes greater and greater. Especially if the engine is built up with stronger pistons, sleeves, rods, etc you will want to consider an upgraded damper like a ATi or Fluidampr unit to dampen those forces.
      On a factory-turbocharged car with a stock bottom end (most cases) or a mild turbo on a mild build...I say go for an alloy pulley. It will help you generate more power off-boost to help RPMs come up and get exhaust flowing.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you dont mind exploding your oil pump go ahead and run an aluminum pulley. DONT DO IT

  • @masterdebater0010
    @masterdebater0010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these ok for automatic cars?

  • @ACamps53
    @ACamps53 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!
    I have one question:
    Do you think that between all k20 specs, the crankshaft pulley are the same?
    Im asking because I have bone stock 8th gen civic si (k20z3) and the crankshaft pulley is wobbling, so looking for the part the exact replacement is 160$ while ive seen other crankshaft pulleys for other k20's for 40$

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes we think pretty much all the K20 pulleys are interchangable.

    • @ACamps53
      @ACamps53 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. thank you

    • @watchere
      @watchere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might be too late, they are interchangeable but the diameters are different.

  • @cvpifanatic
    @cvpifanatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if they have one for a R18 engine

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do have Nonstop Tuning kits on the Heeltoe site.

  • @musicorporation1054
    @musicorporation1054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much !!!!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome!

  • @cheetoshotfries2289
    @cheetoshotfries2289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pulleys not on sale on heeltoes page😪?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We offer them for sale yes, product availability is changing all the time though.

  • @530StreetRacing
    @530StreetRacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a d series crank pulley with built in 60-2 trigger wheel 😁

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว

      Pulleys with triggers...what for, really?

    • @530StreetRacing
      @530StreetRacing ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. d16z6 with zx6 carbs running on nodiz ignition

    • @530StreetRacing
      @530StreetRacing ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. motor is for a first gen accord sedan

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@530StreetRacing We will not be making that pulley

  • @toyota86drifter
    @toyota86drifter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were can I get these pullies

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      These and more are available on Heeltoeauto.com under Engine parts.

    • @toyota86drifter
      @toyota86drifter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. thanks so much i have a 06 accord 4 door making 190 all motor with oem part and aftermarket

  • @k24accord73
    @k24accord73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking of onorthodox pulley ..hopefully i see before after video

  • @williampano8304
    @williampano8304 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don’t you include dyno chart?? 🤨 also do y’all have this for the k24z2 lmao

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because we don't have a dyno chart to include. Believe there is a K24Z app available yes.

  • @hydrocarbon8272
    @hydrocarbon8272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll try with a nicer comment so this doesn't disappear too: you don't know what you're talking about here.
    If you do an actual simulation of forces, you find out an inline-4 has fairly nasty 2nd order harmonics. It's a up-down rocking of the crankshaft ends. On a B/D/H engine with an oil pump gear riding on the crank, this can be DEADLY. Coyote V8's offer great examples of similar 2nd order harmonics shattering crank-driven pumps when they are under-dampened (particularly with a supercharger reducing it's damping power).
    K-series use chain-driven pumps so it's less of an issue. It still imparts much heavier loads on the outer-most main bearings with an undampened pulley. Also accessories like AC & PS add to the dampening effect, so motor with them deleted need even more dampening. Same for engines with lower rod-stroke ratios or higher redlines - they need more.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Given that the majority of engines we deal with are K and J and they all have the extra accessories you are talking about, you are supporting the point of the video.
      But in reality, the people this video is intended for are the vast majority of street-driven engines without power adders and not having the abuse of a racecar. Myself included, ZERO people in DECADES have mentioned to me once any issues whatsoever using a lightweight pulley.
      Model it all you want, the reality is, telling the world doomsday stories of grenading engines is largely a lie.

  • @user-hh4hc2lt6e
    @user-hh4hc2lt6e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a lightweight flywheel with a ati damper is better

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A light flywheel is awesome. The type of damper you run...it depends on the setup I think.

  • @Spacedout209
    @Spacedout209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    High performance academy has a video you should watch on the subject my friend 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll take a watch but don't expect it to change my mind. In 15+ years, nobody has yet. Have yet to see practical real world evidence that a modern Honda engine *needs* any kind of harmonic damper, short of a high horsepower race engine.

    • @Spacedout209
      @Spacedout209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. that's true your over engineered very reliable low hp honda engine may be fine but that's not the case with all 4 cylinders depending on bore stroke overall smaller piston less torsional push and pull on the crank ie less need for a damper but like my 2.4 nissan motor it's at about the end of the spectrum for a for displacement to still be able to rev past 7k that's not to say that a damper wouldnt help your honda last 20% longer by dampening those vibrations that are just vibrating the main bearings the oil pump the rod bearings the snout 9f the crank, even vibrations being transferred to the valves from the timing chain if u have one and u wouldnt be able to notice a problem until years and years later after it's way too late u cant feel torsional vibration at all it's a harmonic frequency that happens at different points in the rev range that the damper dials out not an actual vibration u can feel or hear

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spacedout209 Thanks I appreciate the feedback. We just don't put stock in the idea that the stock pulley on your general Honda engine is even a harmonic damper to begin with. It's all in the video. *shrug* I am not commenting on any non-Honda engines.

    • @Spacedout209
      @Spacedout209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. I seen that engine with an oem pully on the crank, i think even some porches dont come with them stock but whatever I can do to keep my nissan 4 cylinder from vibrating itself to death all I was saying is I'm sure adding one to an engine that didnt come with one would make it last a little longer even if it isnt necessary

  • @danielcalquinhas447
    @danielcalquinhas447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive run lightweight aluminum crank pulleys on three engines all of them daily driven to over 8000rpm including -30 Canadian winters....never had engine failure lmao b16a2 b18c1 k20z3

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a total myth, right? Do you do any oil tests?

    • @danielcalquinhas447
      @danielcalquinhas447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. This myth was originally spread because American cars from the 1950s-1970s were externally balanced with the crank pulley as a damper. When racers would replace that pulley to something lighter the motors would shake apart. This is not the case with Honda motors because they are internally balanced, I dont see why this is so difficult for the internet to understand.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielcalquinhas447 likewise, the secondary reasoning for not changing this part is the risk of stress fractures due to repeated flexing of the crankshaft under powerstrokes. Weaker crankshafts will fatigue and fail if the harmonic vibration from this oscillation isn't dampened. Honda makes no such flexy crankshafts. The only reason to run a racing damper on a Honda engine is under very high load high stress conditions.

  • @7g6_66
    @7g6_66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a 05 6-6 coupe TL swapped

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, what is the question?

    • @Jaydogg209
      @Jaydogg209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it will work for a v6 6speed tl motor.

  • @austin_94gt18
    @austin_94gt18 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this is still safe for high to mid range hp built cars (250hp+ cars putting alot of pressure on those lightweight pulleys)😕

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HP does not put pressure on the pulley...your statement really doesn't make a lot of sense. We sell these for 200-300 hp cars all the time.

  • @victorlewis7635
    @victorlewis7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I’m the only one, but I wonder how this feels on a D series

    • @_WESTSIDE_
      @_WESTSIDE_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely peaking my interest as well 🤔🤔

    • @_WESTSIDE_
      @_WESTSIDE_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely peaking my interest as well 🤔🤔

    • @victorlewis7635
      @victorlewis7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_WESTSIDE_ Well I hear for racing it's cool, but I DD mine so it wouldn't be as applicable as on a race engine

  • @miguelrivera8532
    @miguelrivera8532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why u didn't put we're we can get it

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand the question...

    • @miguelrivera8532
      @miguelrivera8532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. does parts u showing I have a 05 Acura RL would like to have it nice

  • @lrod312
    @lrod312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most Honda/Acura engines, especially B, K and J series engines are balanced internally, and NOT via the crank pulley. Most '80s V8 and V6 engines are by and large balanced externally though, which is where I think a lot of the confusion comes from.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's amazing how lost people are on this topic. Even really smart people just spread misinformation.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While true, ALL honda engines come stock with harmonic dampers.

  • @juansolo1617
    @juansolo1617 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just have the lightweight pulley balanced?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These parts are made concentrically. They are basically balanced off the lathe. But that is not the concern people have anyway. They are worried about damping destructive harmonics, which is a non-issue.

  • @jimhiscott2918
    @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where the hell did you get your information??? Its not a mith. If you run an aluminum pulley on a Honda B series performance engine you risk the chance of having oil pump failure DON'T DO IT. Extremely discouraged on Honda B, D & K series engines.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Flash Jones The rubber in oem crank pulleys and in very expensive after market race pulleys is there to absorb harmonic vibrations. With no rubber there is nothing to take up these vibrations except for your oil pump and the crank bearings closest to the pulley. Look on any serious race engine builders motor and you will 100% of the time find a rubber dampened pulley. Especially with us B series Honda engine builders where the crank runs through the oil pump it is imperative to run a very well dampened pulley! I just spent $6000 building another 650hp boosted B series long block and forked out another $365 for a race dampened crank pulley with a smile because i know what will happen if I don't! Again, avoid non dampened or any plane aluminum pulleys!

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Flash Jones Got to love that vtec👍. Look at the Honda OEM TypeR N1 pulley/damper. It is a single belt pulley that is "underdriven" and its ⅓ the weight of a standard oem pulley. I have ran this pulley with great success on many B series. Honda oem Pn#13811-PCT-000 This is a very nice pulley I think you may be interested in.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim are you saying that the CTR N1 pulley is okay to use but an aluminum one is not?

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This 100%, ALL HONDAS COME STOCK WITH HARMONIC DAMPERS. They are internally balanced, but that is not the same.

  • @bobo5150
    @bobo5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harmonic balancer delete you're going to blow up your engine in 6 months.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clearly you didn't watch the video.

    • @bobo5150
      @bobo5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. I did, I'm just busting your damper. In all seriousness it probably doesn't matter on a stock or bolt on build. These guys build xxxx hp engines so they know what they're talking about. th-cam.com/video/V1hX1liR7r8/w-d-xo.html

  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just use a fluid damper for the crank pulley. Makes hp and is still lighter than stock but absorbs any vibrations and if you assume Honda engines don’t vibrate at all because they have magical crankshafts and can ignore the fact that they’re 4 cylinders then I’m inclined to believe you’re selling these pullies or making commission from sales. I wouldn’t trust those shitty looking garage made pullies either. There are far superior brands that make lightweight pullies. How much money do you make selling these pullies versus the cost to make them? They look like some Alibaba junk.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well a lot of hate in there. LOL, I'll tell you what you lost me at a fluid-filled damper makes power. Sounds to me like you're more interested in saying a bunch of negative things than actual facts. Every one of the pulleys in this videos is a quality made part and with the exception of one they're all made in the USA.

  • @jaweed7219
    @jaweed7219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I get a free sticker?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, if you do place an order for something we toss a sticker or two in for free.

    • @jaweed7219
      @jaweed7219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Heeltoe. I’ll trade you rv6 pcds for 1 sticker

  • @04tacomaguy1
    @04tacomaguy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They have blown many of engine lol but are fun

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No they haven't.

    • @04tacomaguy1
      @04tacomaguy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Heeltoe. its more stress on the oil pump and bearing only because slightly more vibration atributes to lower film of oil coating bearings from shaking

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@04tacomaguy1 as long as the crank is balanced these parts do not cause any of those issues on the Honda engines were talking about here.

    • @04tacomaguy1
      @04tacomaguy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Heeltoe. it's balanced for the heavier OEM one when you take one that only weighs a few ounces on a stock internal motor it will cause issues down the line. Now if you have different crank rods and pistons that weigh less it won't be as big of an issue cause its more or less counter balanced...

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@04tacomaguy1 I'm sorry friend you're really off base. Size and weight of the pulley have nothing to do with the balance of the bottom end. The engine is balanced internally has nothing to do with the pulley. The pulley is balanced as well so it doesn't affect the balance of the rotating assembly at all.

  • @KeepinItReal890
    @KeepinItReal890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    run a 9lb flywheel and buy an ATI damper. don't be cheap on your $5000 fully built motor. all the responsiveness you need.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody said this advice would be taken on a $5000 fully built engine. This is general advice for the average street tuner.

  • @evodingo3375
    @evodingo3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best thing these accelerate is engine failure.... do your homework

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did ya watch the video?

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo. this guy is a shill.

  • @mathewperez5836
    @mathewperez5836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are so bad for your engine omg smh

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really! Such is the point of the video. Give it a listen again. We'll explain.

    • @mathewperez5836
      @mathewperez5836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use a legit ati on my setup

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hondas all come with harmonic dampeners. (even if they are cheal rubber style ones)
    Not running one will kill your oil puimp.
    Stop spreading misinfo.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of them do as far as I know. You are flat wrong dude. The video is specifically to dispel the fearmongering.