Early X Elite benchmarks CONFIRMED
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- Early Snapdragon X Elite benchmarks by a third party seem to confirm the chip's performance and battery life potential claims.
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It's pretty good for first gen model. Single threaded performance is bit underwhelming and thermals are high, but overall pretty solid!
single core performance and efficiency is pretty much everything that counts.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl wouldnt it be otherwise?
2 2 Ghz cores perform better than 1 4 Ghz
Or i may have gotten things wrong
Single core performance is held back by Windows. On Linux it's on par if not faster. Alex will probably test both Windows and Linux so we'll have a look. As for efficiency it beat the M3.
@@alexseleni3314 ah ok
I guess that clears the confusion
Given that i used linux for a while
You have to have a trade-off, everyone does, also, MAC M3 gets REALLY hot when pushed. The weakness of ARM is clock speed, X86 does better, and can go way higher.
Signal 65 GM Ryan Shrout is former Intel guy. Temperature testing is somewhat at low room temp 20C. Will have wait for actual production results at higher room temperature. They should have added Ryzen 7840u/8840u.
Edit: Fixed strout with Shrout. Thanks big eighties new user
omg is it really Ryan Shrout?? that guy is such a shill
Shrout.
Huge red flags seeing Ryan Shrout. He was very intellectually dishonest when he was at Intel trying to make out that Intel was still better than Apple Silicon.
haha i was about to write the same thing, he did the same shit back at intel with fake benchmarks
😮
I want to install Linux on this
can't wait, love asahi linux progress, but soldered storage still bugging me.
Linux is bad at battery life though
That will be a nuke bro.
Blazing fast
@@legendaryx2k19huh? Are you sure?
@@legendaryx2k19 Try auto-cpufreq
I'll be honest, this report looks more like a publicity flyer than an independent 3rd party report.
It probably is. Nobody has their hands on these except this one firm. They're afraid to show actual numbers so you don't know if their BSing you or not. I can believe performance is better than an M3 in multi, but battery life? This thing is getting hyped to the moon and reality is going to suck.
I hope not. I truly hope the SnapDragon Elite line is every bit as good as the claims. Ever since the PC crowd came over to the Mac space it's been nothing but chaos. Complaining about this. Complaining about that. Why Apple does NOT do it like this or like that. Why doesn't Apple do it the PC way. Or why Apple charges so much for RAM? Or why Apple makes non-upgradable computers. And so on & so on. With an ARM based silicon of their own offering similar efficiency & performance as the Apple M series SoCs, perhaps they will depart back to PC land allowing peace & tranquilly to return to the Mac space. Just a different 2¢ perspective.
it is.
@@TheWallReportsnot likely after the coming “recall” update in Windows 11, just saying
@@MrAllthatgoodstuff It's ARM just like M3 (and Apple silicon) so I see no reason for poor battery life. While it might not last as long, it's gonna be better than any x86 windows laptop. Also, don't forget that laptops shipping with X Elite will have larger battery capacities than the macbook airs.
Wow ! Intel 155H is so good...
Interesting how they ignored AMD completely 😀
Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake will get the courtyard heated!
they ignored AMD because they would make both the M3 and new snapdragon look bad lol.
@@27klickslegendThe M3 already beats AMD laptop U chips in Single thread and thermals. They had use a fanless MacBook M3 to even compare with Intel and Snapdragon that have fans. They should have used the MacBook Pro M3 that has a fan. The sustained performance of the M3 in applications is going to be effected due to lack of a fan.
I would still wait for proper third party tests.
@@27klickslegend let's not act like fan boys here even tho better than intel in efficiency.... they barely can sustain 6 hour oh light work on laptops....
@@rohithmekala2608 its compared based on price. Not really our faults apple cant afford a fan in a $1200 laptop
When you talked about the vision tests I LOL’D very hard! Recently I was writing some Python code doing vision work and finally thought, hmm, can I do this using VisionKit in a simple SwiftUI app? Why yes I can. Less than 100 lines of code later (mostly UI) my app used native libraries and the NPUs to run the same task over 100x faster, and the OCR performance on top of that was mindbogglingly better than Tesseract even after wasting hours training it to improve performance. This isn’t a slight against Python, it’s meant to simply demonstrate that what may APPEAR to be a reasonable benchmark, you actually have to understand the details in methodology to be able to frame how useful the data is to any given user segment. 👍
Thanks so much Alex for the work done. Keep it up.
I want to see how well Prism works, especially with VPN or management software like MDM or Cisco AnyConnect
Great video. The opening had me believing you had suddenly lost your mind! I’m glad you’re still Pragmatic Alex.
I know I prefer Apple but I’m always shocked at how much other major corporations lie and mislead buyers about a product’s capabilities and functionality BEFORE its release. Apple “cherry picks” but these companies flat out lie. It’s like they turn into Kickstarter.
Only recently discovered your channel and it’s instantly in my top 10, thanks for the great content!
Welcome aboard!
Ive never cared much at all for Mac OS or Windows, therefore to finally have a real option to run Linux natively with long lasting battery life at great speeds is a dream come true.
Before you mention Asahi Linux for Apple Silicon, unfortunately it's years away from fully functional.
Thanks for giving the full full rundown, Alex. It will be interesting to see how the M4 machines compare to these as well. I am also curious how the Mac machines will do Running Windows with the latest version of Windows for ARM and the Prism translation layer. The team that Qualcom recently bought originally came from Apple so I wouldn't be surprised if improvements to Windows for ARM for the Qualcom chip might translate to Apple Silicon as well. Would be funny if the best laptop for (ARM) Windows was a Mac. Broadcom said something about working with MS for VMWare Fusion Pro 13 (which, if you believe Broadcom, is now free for personal use).
Maybe if Boot Camp comes back, this will be a reality again. Apple said it depends on Microsoft, and my guess is that they won’t sign Windows on MacBook at least until they have an equally as good processor the compete with the M series, otherwise people will buy MacBooks for Windows lol. This was actually a common thing back when Intel Macs didn’t suck, and the MacBook was famous for being Microsoft employee’s favorite computer.
Judging by the numbers, the X Elite is not it. Maybe a 2nd gen with a bit of luck.
@@brunocastro7858 I am not expecting Boot Camp to make a return. Apple doesn't need it (it was first created when MS computers had an overpowering share of the PC market). However Parallels runs Windows on ARM fine and now quoted from VMWare website - "VMware Fusion Pro is more powerful than ever with Windows 11 support on the latest Macs with Apple silicon, including a built-in “Get Windows” feature and full 3D graphics support." To support "Get Windows", Microsoft has to sign off and have drivers. I am curious, however, how well Prism support will work in this configuration given the Qualcom teams providence.
Synthetic benchmarks show that even the base M4 is faster than the X Elite. These snapdragons will not be able to compete with the M4 Pro and M4 Max.
Loving your channel, Alex.
Glad you enjoy it!
Intel Core Ultra 7 seems to be doing surprisingly well. Great competition in performance, but the prices seem to climb steadily.
Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake mobile, will be exciting. Who innovates better!
It was doing great, then the battery run out. LOL
at the expense of fan noise and bad battery life. Classic Intel. That is why ARM based chips are better in power conscious devices.
it is more about efficency and power consumption rather then row power. in my case I don't care about row power performance in a laptop I have my PC for that.
@@williammaverick The battery life was pretty decent of the Intel chip much better then I expected. As I can recall 90% of the new Snapdragon.
Can you test Davinci Resolve / Editing Programs on these Laptops? This would be sooo helpful. Thank you in advance. :)
Unless you are a really really demanding video editor or AI model trainer, these ARM chips are all faster than 99% of people would ever need.
Or crunch huge data models (guilty)
The new chips aren't about "power" but the battery life improvements.
The extra battery hours are very valuable and if most of users wont use all the power is because after years of Windows underperforming all software is adapted to the old slow x86. Once ARM becomes the norm I expect a blow of very power-hungry (and hopefully useful) apps
True, what we needed was just a good arm laptop that has no fans, is slim, durable, has long battery life and does well on day to day tasks. Im waiting for a cheaper midrange ARM laptop to install Debian on. So far even what was out there in terms of ARM is still rather expensive and underwhelming.
@@APIAlchemistif you’re just referring to ARM chips in general the M3 max isn’t underwhelming in any sense.
I wonder what the M4 max will bring to the table.
Great! Waiting for WSL2 test!
Thanks Alex
thanks for joining!
Hey will you please do mobile app development on these arm windows laptops? Like running android studio etc...
Hi Alex
Thank you for the video. I am very curious about Linux and if it can access all the new Hardware like the NPU, for example running ollama and do some offline inference. I am sure you will test some real world stuff on those machines.
Have a nice day
And maybe some hw acceleration in blender 😉
What I would like to see from you is WSL2 with pyTorch and see how that works. Also just general usage of vscode with Python.
Keep up the good work, your videos are always informative and fun to watch.
thanks. Looking forward to...
cant wait for the dev benchmarks, how WSL works, real battery life (this one is important), etc.
Based on the 10°C higher temperature, the power consumption is bigger, so it's deplete the battery faster, it's like a 19W vs 23W power consumption (the 45°C vs 56°C), and the 20% higher power consumption also drain the battery 20% faster.
I've been seeing your videos for weeks and i'm subscribed. Would love to see real world tests with the new machines and the Snapdragon CPU's inside. Can't wait!!
Hey @AZisk can you check how does MS Paint perform in the new Surface laptops compare to MS Paint using Parallels in a M3 mac. My development workflow mainly involves heavy use of MS Paint.
Thanks :)
This guys MS Paints
@@SirusStarTV Lol, dude be living in 2003.
Interesting to see about these Multithreaded tests, something tells me the M3 is thermal limited since it's the only passive cool computer in this bunch.
hey there, can you do your future tests on linux OS also?
We will see about general stability and experience. My windows desktop from just a few years ago struggles to run my mouse smoothly ever since the last update. It does better than my macbook air on bench marks, but at least my Air can run my mouse properly.
Videos like this are why I love your channel. No nonsense comparisons with facts. Can’t wait to see real tests! Thank you!
It’s a game of leapfrog. They compare against M3 but that is last year‘s model. M4 is so far only available in the iPad pro.
I would also love to see some WSL 2 performance test if you can :)
Looking forward to your battery only performance test results.
Here we goooo we missed you at the event 🎉
would love to see some test for engineering applications (matlab, pspice, fusion 360, radiant, etc.)
Looks promising. Really hope the translation layer works well.
Considering that the people behind the silicon where the key in making the A and M series for Apple I expect great things here.
Very interesting that it appears to ship with the X1E-80-100 and it runs as hot as it does. Especially when compared to the fanless MacBook Air.
Really curious how it running CAD software like Solidworks, etc.
It is interesting when engineers can have lightweight laptops with long battery life.
Thanks
Why not release the actual score instead of a comparison? Isn't the whole idea that the company focuses on quality benchmarks?
conditions of test are important.
So comparing tests that are done by the same team at the same place is not that bad.
Bench are already not that interesting for the Snap as Windows ARM is not mature enough to have fiable tests.
@@anantmalik bro who cares how fast the NPU is anyways. You don't notice any performance improvement in any app whatsoever.
@@anantmalik did you even read my comment? I said it doesn't matter how fast the NPU is because literally no app out there depends on it other than some few OS functions which nobody cares about.
@@anantmalik I am not an apple fanboy by any means. I just hate Windows. I would rather install Linux and play games on Linux but because of app support I can't. But my point still remains. There's almost no use for these NPUs. CPUs and GPUs still matter. I don't think LLMs can run on NPUs even right now (other than Microsoft's custom made one Phi Silica) so there's literally no point to these things.
Watching your videos is always a great experience 😊
Please share your thoughts on the MS Recall windows feature
i don’t like it
Typical Windows
do a core ultra review it will really help to decide whether we should wait for lunar lake or not.
while testing wsl can you test some wslg apps such as a browser ?
Please could you review unreal engine compile and editor run times? My surface book 2 is terribly slow now and I am looking to upgrade, but I'm unsure how well it'll work for unreal engine compilation and hot reloading.
SQL Server apparently isn't coming to ARM. Someone said at Build that "they'll talk about that sometime in the future but it's not on their roadmap today". SSMS presumably will work through the Prism layer, but it doesn't have ARM on the roadmap either. My guess is both will be dependent on sales and developer outcry. Since Intel is releasing "lunar lake" in Q3 in a lot of machines, these WoA machines "may" not mean much long term (hope I'm wrong).
Hey Alex, could u also see how the laptops do on linux?
How long until reviews drop for laptops running these chips?
Could you test real battery life with dual boot (Arch/Manjaro), recently I bought a M3Pro(18/1TB) but battery is drainning with kubernetes (colima/docker/podman) and Lens (DevSecOPS) ....
so does the programs run natively or they run on translation layer on each platform or what?
It would be nice to see how it compares to the full M3 lineup.
I find it highly suspicious timing that they announced all of these Copilot+ PCs right before WWDC, but they will not actually be available until after WWDC so no real 3rd party tests. Signal65 isn't a 3rd party at all to me, they are living on Microsoft funding and MS wants this to go big.
baffles me how people cannot be excited about new tech anymore. Lets not pretend any corpo is trustworthy, but what Qualcomm (and partly MS) is trying to do here is only for the benefit of the market. There are more positives here to talk about than negatives.
@@Burbananayup I totally agree. People be LOOKING for reasons to be negative even when there's no basis. Same thing happening on r/technology, sucks for us who actually excited about new tech
I mean, they can’t even hide in their own test this chip won’t beat any MacBooks, and they still make these ridiculous claims
I think they meant it will be faster for ✨AI✨, but still, they’ve shown us no real comparisons and as making these claims purely on technicalities that may not translate well at all to real world use
I think they want so bad to have an ARM/M1 revolution as well they are squeezing any number that may remotely resembles what Apple had in 2020 to make it seen like they are now in the same position Apple once was. But they just are not
Probably you are right, but they just already missed the promised "six months later" time what they announced 7 months ago, so they need to announce we "only need one more month".
ARM does not do well past a certain clock speed, they are more akin to a diesel engine, x86 you can wind it up, F1 V-10-style, and still get improvements. ARM, to get more power, need to add more cores.
4:44 YOLOv8 should be using mps backend, for non_max_suppresion it falls back to cpu
What happens if you're a gamer playing mostly athletic titles like fifas and nba pc versions? Will the new x elite translate well these x86 software to be able to run them smoothly while maintaining the battery life?
There are pre-order discounts right now. I got my surface pro with oled 16gb/512gb for $1349
It'll be very interesting to see if Qualcomm makes a "Pro" model with more CPU/GPU cores and larger memory cache to directly compete against the Pro and Max versions of Apple's desktop SoC's.
Curious when Apple wil release the MacBooks, Studio and Pro with M4 series.
When they compare battery life, it would be interesting to see battery size in each one of those devices. Do they list them?
>Eiffel 65
That was 25 years ago, OMG
And now Bebe Rex’s is singing it with David Guetta
The thermals on these X Elite systems (all of which have fans running at full speed) should be compared to an M3 Pro system, not the fanless M3 MBA.
Yup exactly. I would say half of the issues is with Windows being so horribly optimized that it takes up that much power and processing. I have owned old laptops before and the laptops running weaker processors and worse battery capacity ran much longer than laptops on Windows 11 (which run like 4-5 hrs). So what changed? Windows
Nah m3 pro systems cost double
I think the same thing; the right system, in my opinion, is the macbook pro with m3 (not m3 pro).
@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh yes, you are right but, in my opinion if we want have a good comparison between the two SoC (and not the laptop) we need to see m3 with a cooling system.
But yeah if we need to compare two laptop to choose which we need to buy (so the price must be similar) the right laptop is m3 air.
Why compare with last years M3 it needs to be compared to the M4, shame Microsoft thought they were doing so well. Maybe next year Microsoft.
Can you please check Power Bi and Excel power query on it ?
Thanks
i hope there will be accelerated hakintoch development for arm laptops
Snapdragon X Elite is also ARM-based machine as Apple Silicon. What do you think if it runs MacOS in a way of Hackintosh-in-ARM? Do you think it is possible? Looking forwared to see your next video with this topic may be 😛
Doubt it's possible. They aren't the same chip. Hackintosh's when Macs were still x86 didn't have all x86 processors compatible, typically only the ones available on MacOS were compatible. There's no was a snapdragon chip will work in MacOS
I mean the ARM chip version MacOS, which the latest Apple Silicon is running on. We can run ARM-based version of Window OS on M-series Macintosh. This is why I think in a reverse way that ARM-based PC may possible to run MacOS.
No it won't. They're built on custom architectures and not the default arm ones.
Moreover, buy MacBook and run windows then, it better that way
Just a curious whether all OS will be interchangeable between all platforms that are ARM-based at the end. 😂
Will you be testing the Qualcomm dev kit here?
oh yeah
@@AZiskand SQL?
Are we seeing native and non native apps running on the snapdragon vs fully native apps on the M3? Surely that will scu things. And need to wait for fully native apps for the snapdragon in 3 years or something for a fairer result.
Please test the training of deep learning models on it.
Btw, gpus do ai tasks WAAY Better than npus. What's 45tops compared to 1700 tops of a 4090?
Because of their Benchmarks, Knowledge and top (former Apple) people who have designed the X Elite Oryon series, Apple released their M4 earlier! My Jetstream v2.2 inside Chrome says 437467. I would be happy, getting a passive cooled mini PC with X Elite Oryon x1E 84-100
This channel should be 1 million . Too valuable
Usually under mill channels are way better than over mil - no cockiness, no bs, no reviews disguised as ads, no coke powered energy
Do we know if WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) will work in Windows for ARM?
WSL already supports ARM. So does the Ubuntu image in the Microsoft store.
The good thing is each partner can customize the cooling vapor chamber throttle ram ssd screen keyboard. Chassis ports oled 2 in 1 touch screen pen support dales warranty etc.
Apple is pretty much one size fits all.
Qualcomm have a team of 8 engineers working on Linux support for the SoC - including Vulcan drivers for the GPU. Most of their drivers have already been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, but things like the GPU have not yet been merged.
The Qualcomm Linux team can't guarantee that OEMs will support Linux, but the SoC itself will.
The Laptops boot off standard UEFI, so no need for any fancy image flashing like the Pi - should just be a case of throwing in a Fedora usb and installing Linux like you would on any normal x86_64 machine.
Hopefully the OLED screen on the Surface laptop has a high refresh rate - the MBP has a high refresh rate but very high latency (noticeable while gaming, for what little games are supported on macOS+Crossover). Cannot wait to see how games perform with FEX and Proton!
Gnome has fancy trackpad gestures like MacOS, really want to see if the ergonomics of the Surface laptop trackpad with its haptic trackpad rivals the MBP.
I'll replace my MBP with a Surface for "work and play" if Linux support is great and the laptop is within 90% the feel of the MBP.
Legit, I'm watching this channel and all the information about these laptops specifically so I can get one and replace windows with Linux.
Cosmic DE being made by POP OS has even more advanced gestures than gnome. Plus it's made in rust so it's already faster than a majority of current DEs. Snapdragon chips plus pop os cosmic is gonna be a wild ride.
@@Saurabhkumar-bn3dl :excite: Linux is so damn cool, can't believe it's has such a small market share
the surface has a 120hz display
i'd look at the Lenovo Yoga 7x and Thinkpad 14s gen 6 before the surface tbh. The Yoga has an amazing 3k 90 Hz 1000 nits OLED display and a large 70 Wh battery (surface has 56 Wh) but the downside is only 3 USB-C 40 gbps ports
The Thinkpad on the other hand has better ports but a smaller battery (58 Wh) but also has the option to go down to a 1200p IPS display that'd suck down a lot less power (albeit with awful colors, only 45% NTSC) with also some other thinkpad goodies such as 64 GB of RAM at most and a replaceable battery
and lenovo has an amazing track record with supporting linux, especially on the thinkpads
@@deneguil-1618 for me the track pad of the surface has me interested.
I love my MBP track pad - it's so good I will use it over an external mouse when I'm using the device portably.
By comparison, when I had my Dell XPS, I'd avoid the track pad at all costs.
The other thing is the speakers and the speakers on the Dell were total garbage.
I often put on TH-cam videos while cooking or making coffee in the morning, the two laptops were not even comparable.
The surface has announced a track pad using the same technology as the MBP, can't talk for the speakers yet but I'm excited to get one in my hands to see if it's any good. Only if it supports Linux though, ofc
Xcode will probably have a blast running on Prisma... 😃
So are they putting the 84 chip only in the Surface Pro? What about the heat?
Impressive. MS having their M1 moment. Glad to see some real competition in the chip space. This is where the fun begins!
MS? Pretty sure it's Qualcomm m1 moment
Can you give us a benchmark with the new M4 from the iPad?....
I wonder if the new Snapdragon X Elite will run Visual Studio 2022 with Xamarin or MAUI Mobile development workloads.
Also, will both old .net framework and the new .net core workloads perform well natively or do they need Prism 🤔?
Will .net development finally be more power efficient and portable ?😅
Will this push windows 12 sooner?
What about running software compiled for x86_64 while running on these ARM64 chips?
This real world testing thing is so true. Just got a new M1 16gb and it beat my 5600x 32gb 980 evo desktop pc in almost every nodeJS installation and build times.
Hypothetically speaking is it right to assume that second generation Snapdragon X Elite will be ACTUALLY on par with M4 considering QC will probably switch to second-generation N3E (3nm) process for its chipsets? Right now they are using 4nm which is old at this point.
Or higher
The node has little to do with performance, but it is safe to assume that a more modern version of their architecture will perform better.
@@anantmalik okay, how about x elite 999 sku vs m4 ultra
gread viedo, very informative und well spoken, thank you so much.
The Snapdragon X and Apple Silicon lines are both really good, with each of them winning on different benchmarks. The real news here is that somebody has finally caught up with Apple on chip design, and maybe we can have some real competition that helps the consumer.
Not caught up at all, Apple is already now on M4 which will spank the M3 already, expect this entire year to be M4.
However, it's good we have something better than intel/AMD on the MS Windows world. Lower power better battery can only be a good thing. And will force more software to update into ARM technology.
Also notice how it’s compared to the m3 and not the m3 max
Don't forget the passive cooling but with great performance provided by the X Elite chip.. something the competition don't provide except Apple's.
@@JoshuaCartetrbtv It's not a chip meant to be compared against the M3 Max
@@crestofhonor2349 but it's the highest end model? I mean it's fine if it's meant for more budget but then this just shows the gap, seems like AMD is the only one who can compete with Apple
Love this video, you made it clear, everyone needs wait till we see creators actually test this live, great job, thanks.
As I pointed out, xelite is compared to Apple's worst CPU, and ignore CPU's that beat it and nearly match it's efficiency.
Great job here
My understanding is that Intel Core Ultra 7 is manufactured with Intel 4 node. M3 is TSMC N3B. It is claimed that both are comparable in terms of die size, power, and performance.
X Elite is manufactured with TSMC 4 nm, which should be cheaper to make. Hopefully we customers can see the saving soon.
I am working on m1 13 inch MacBook Pro for about a year and I can say that arm cpu is ok for overall DevOps tasks and the battery is great for long meetings. I can wait to see how windows on arm revolutionise the industry like apple did in 2020.
revolutionise the industry ? Apple already did
nah, it won’t
@@seanelias6478 At least revolutionize the windows laptop marker
@@seanelias6478 Not when most desktops run Windows and windows on arm will be even more of a revolution than arm on Apple devices ever was.
Maybe in 10 years they'll all be adopting RiskV instead of ARM. And adding other *PU types to cope with other specific uses that are now still managed by NPU, GPU, CPU
I enjoy the humor of this channel.
I dont really care about performance. I just want a good battery life and good thermals without hearing fan noise from the moment I boot it.
Then do not buy laptops, but real computers.
@@LeicaM11 what is this real computer with a good battery life you speak of?
They should compare the X Elite against the M3 Pro or M3 Max in multicore performance.
@@anantmalik lol none of the computers announced for now has 84 sku, how can they even test it? lol
@@anantmalik I don't like apple but I think you're just wrong saying they rigged the results on purpose since they didn't use the most powerful variant of snapdragon, they can't just use it there isn't much else to say
Multi core 15-16000 for X Elite
yes, sure, they should've compared 3000+$ laptops to 1200+$ laptops.
@@anantmaliklol you have absolutely no clue wtf you’re taking about hahaha
TOPS (Trillions of Operations per Second) is a NPU (Neural Processing Unit) measure only, and does only apply to Machine Learning related stuff, and not the entire SoC
also, the TOPS measure is a terrible way of comparing what are essentially different technologies (as is any frequency based measure). We need benchmarks for this, and we still don’t have them
I’m sorry to break it to you, but the X Elite is not an M series competitor. Maybe a second gen can deliver better numbers, but based on what even seen only a blind fanboy won’t see it. If you still doubt me , just watch the video again and look for the MacBook’s numbers
Finally found a dev who does hardware reviews :D
Subbed.
What will be better after all in few words? X elite? Core ultra? M4? What about amd? And the rumours of nvidia entering jn cpu ai npu market? What will be the definitive all around best chip for a laptop next year?
It's a very good start for Windows on ARM, but of course we have to see it in action.
fairly certain the "AI" CV benchmark is cpu based. There is no way a GPU accelerated CV task is only 1x or equal to the core ulta 7, m3 gpu is about 4x core ultra 7 for that task.
Please test core ultra machines like thinkpads
Will you buy and test the latest Qualcomm dev kit?
yes
Are you also going to test the 2024 Snapdragon Dev Kit for Windows? It's released on 18 June and has special top-tier Snapdragon X Elite SoC with a slightly higher dual core boost clock than the 84 sku and 80W TDP. Like the Windows Dev Kit 2023 / Volterra PC it replaces, it has 32 GB RAM and is of similar format / size, but has an improved selection of ports, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
yes
The charts says surface 5 13in but the appendix says it's 15" screen ?
The passive Macbook air produces a lower 24.9 dbA of noise in the more power hungry multithreaded test; but returns a higher reading of 26.4 dbA in the single thread test. Apart from it being backwards, isn't passively cooled supposed to mean no cooling fan ? Do these testers know how to use their test equipment ?
The text underneath that graph states that the "noise floor" was 26.3 dB which seems to imply that anything at or below that is basically within a margin of error. I guess they didn't have a soundproof room to test which is a bit odd for a professional testing organization but It's unlikely the difference is are meaningful at that level.
@@MarxMarvelous37 2:06 Idle/Sound Floor is stated to be at 24.9 dbA. This doesn't fully explain the 26.4 dbA achieved in single thread noise, unless we're saying that the marginal of error is at least 1.5dbA ? That would make those graphs meaningless apart from saying that the MSI is much louder than all of the others ?
Does anyone know if you can fold the display of the Surface Laptop all the way back to flat 180 degrees?