@@myname9252 I wouldn't want either of those over an r7. Because I like to shift, and I don't want to ride stupid. The R1 does over 100kmh in first gear, you can only do that going on a highway and will never use the rest of the bike.
I feel that the R7 is a realistic way to give riders something that we want, we can afford and something we don’t regret owning for a few years. Despite the lack of the inline 4 motor, the parallel twin gives a lot of benefit in return.
I think what I don't like is that we are giving up the inline 4 because people want to look cool than to actually have a capable bike. If the R6 and R7 both existed then I would not care and people could have a choice which is a good thing. I just don't think every bike needs to be a daily. Off road bikes seem to get away with that but sport bikes are falling to it. Like people understand that a dirt bike is not meant for driving to work everyday but is fun in a narrow band of actives like a supersport is.
@@Jamie-gu5cx yea but who has an extra 18k for a track only machine, dont get me wrong, i love the look and everything, but its not financially feasible to alot of us
Hardly comparible, with the design being over 30 years out of date now, but my first motorcycle was a 91 EX500. Renamed to the Ninja after they added a rear disk and changed the plastics in 94. Parallel twin sports bikes are great little things. Have myself an SV650, nowadays, which has the same seating position, about the same triangle, near the same wheelbase, and just an extra 20-30 horsepower. If only Suzuki offered it with fairings.
Good luck and i hope you dont drop it ive been riding a lil bit before i bought my ninja 400 on a harley roadster and pulled the gun this year. They say your gonna drop it and i learned that on the harley so pls be carefull and go on a track before taking a corner fast on a street corner. GL
@@AM-pf1nhI think it all depends on the person. But I personally love the R7 for a day to day ride. I currently don’t have a car and only ride my R7 and it’s always a blast. One thing I really like about it for day to day riding is that the R7 has a parallel motor which is why the R7 doesn’t have a power band, instead you have constant power at any rpm’s and that to me makes it much easier and less I gotta think about so I enjoy the ride much more. Plus the cluster gages are pretty cool
Just picked up a 23’ R7 and loving it! I’m 37 and been in the military for 14 years so we shall see how my back holds up! Watching your videos helped me make that leap from a small bike to this. OC crew out!
@@mikehusky3967 been riding daily for 3 months now and gone on all day rides and no issues with the back yet. Butt gets a little tried but overall it’s not terrible.
I found an interesting situation with my ZX6r. I'm disabled in large part because of my back. I've found that the seating position, while being in a semi-fetal position, actually helps to get pressure off of my back. I thought for sure that it would force me to stop riding. Quite the opposite. When my back is hurting really badly, i take a ride and it helps.
Have you looked into physical therapy? I had similar issues but with my neck to the point I could barely turn my head and would have so much pain it would develop into a headache, and I'd be down and out. I've been going to physical therapy for about a month and I can move my neck again and have pain way less often
OC: These are the reviews I enjoy when you’ve had an extended amount of time with the bike. Seems like a really solid option if you’re wanting the sport bike looks for the street.
What I’d like to see is a series where you take a super sport and try to make daily-able/more comfortable by putting bar risers, nicer seat etc., and review if it made it livable FOR YOU. I say that because a lot of people want the sport bike looks, feel, and drive without the pain in the back, neck, wrists etc.
OC: I think the R7 is the best looking middle weight super sport bike out there, and with the 'rideability' im looking at getting back on a bike after several years away from them, just need to get my self in gear!
Not the best idea getting this as a first tbh. Start smaller on an RC390 or Ninja 400 or R3 then get this when you're uber confident on those bikes! Much cheaper, far more forgiving and still plenty of power for 95% of situations! Light enough to where you won't struggle if you drop it (which you will).
@@shahzebnasir4692 I'm planning to get a bike in spring and like the other user I'm leaning towards the R7 my biggest problem is that I'm 6'2, so I don't know if I can fit on a smaller bike like a ninja 400 or a R3
@nicolacorvaglia3931 Get a Ninja 650 to start! Better for taller guys and it will feel a lot less overwhelming than turning the throttle on an R7 and feeling all that torque! Upgrade to the R7 once you're comfortable!!
OC: I agree with the “I love the look of a SS, but my back can’t handle the body position for long” take. I couldn’t justify the R7 price point for a non daily rider but seems like the perfect 2nd/track bike.
If your gonna get a second bike for the track you’re better off with a used 600 in my opinion I think the R7 is perfect if you can only have one bike for both
Why cant they sort of split the difference between an R and an MT? I dont like the naked bikes especially since they cheap out on suspension etc .....why cant they just give a bike a bit more upright ergos WITH a fairing ? Honda did that with the VFR it is totally possible Part of the problem is there is such pressure to make bikes cost less which the stupid thing about that is the same guys that bitch about the price and happily settle for a naked bike with downgraded components usually wind up spending a bunch of cash trying to trick it out typically not really improving anything at all except how it sounds maybe....If the market would tolerate a higher price I feel like we could get some really nice bikes directly off the showroom floor! The R7 is an example it costs a couple grand more but it is significantly better it is NOT just styling it is better...But you cant get the same quality with the MT because it is just a pricepoint bike they actually hope you wont buy and instead upsell you thousands of bucks on a CP3 or CP4 model which have options not available on the pricepoint model
@@dougiequick1 they only just released the R7 & next year they are releasing the R9 they have a lot on the plate & a lot in the works over the next 10 years a lot will change!
The reason it has more linear power is because the twin parallel stability is pretty level through rotation. In line 4 engines shake a bit until the RPMs hit about 6k and then it violently sales through it's power band. The R7 just seems lazy in comparison. Yeah it does about 140 (15mph slower roughly than the 600) however the speed in which you get there is what makes me say it's a glorified ninja 650. Great commuter bike. Hands down. No argument. It can even be fun, but when you come from the 600 crowd then you'll be severely disappointed. Especially if you've had anything bigger.
Your arguments up there, you 're still comparing twins and inline4 cylinders. One engine is tuned for torque, the other for hp. You can't just expect the r7 to accelerate as quick as the r6, without keeping in mind that the r6 probably can't start off in 4th gear unlike the r7 because it's got the punch
Hi, this was a good review, taking the platform used back to a more basic unit, like what sport bikes used to be, and I agree that without all the electronic BS you become a better rider, I look forward to the next review .
It should be a tripple. Triumph street triple is the perfect every day rider. More than enough power, comfortable and the triple sounds and rides amazing.
@@xxATR0CITY I wasn't keen on blue but it was better than the black, I was just gonna get a set of aftermarket fairings down the road to make it look cool, but the anniversary is here! Looks super cool
@@BOSSHOGG4LIFE1008 I wouldnt get it as a first bike unless you already know how to ride a bike with gears or have really good coordination even then I would still start with a 300 or 400cc
Ill say it over and over again. Not everyone wanna shoot down the highway @ 160+ mph lol. I ride everywhere on my Ninja 500, city streets to highways and long road trips and I do just fine and I'm riding on a 451cc bike and its more than enough to perform and overtake on Highways. You have to know your bike.
You have really quality content so it makes watching it fun and intresting. As your honest viewer, keeping advertisement in the end of the video is much better to grow your channel audience wise, i could be wrong here, this is just my opinion.
OK. So after seeing the 60th Anniversary World GP paint scheme, I am debating over the R7 and the R3. I've been riding for 20 years and you might ask why I would consider the R3. Well, I have an 05 Zx6R 636 and an Mt-03. The MT-03 was going to be a commuter. But I am very tall above the waist and have wide shoulders. I almost act like a parachute and all the weight is pushed to the back of the bike. Requiring me to raise the rear all the way up and sit up on the tank. Otherwise no bite in the front tire. And since my every day commute requires some interstate riding the front feels like it's just skipping along. So while I really like the R7, I already have a track bike not comfortable for daily riding, I am leaning towards the R3. I know it has a more upright seating position. And seems like the better commuter in a fully faired bike. Not to mention way cheaper. My nephew has been learning to ride on the MT-03 while I've been riding the ZX6. I am mainly debating over the 2 because I really like that paint scheme. Do you guys think the R3 will be more comfortable enough to choose it over the R7? My nephew is reaching the point that he is upgrading to an MT-07 of his own over the next 6 months or so. At that point the MT-03 will be sold and I'm getting a Triumph Trident 660. So neither would be a commuter for a very long time. But it also seems crazy to have the R7 and the ZX6. Neither seeming to be ideal for longer trips. But I will say the ZX6 doesn't seem to have the power band issues a lot of the other inline 4s have. So I don't think I will see as much benefit from the R7 over the ZX6 as say the R6. I know the R3 is the smart choice since it's mainly about the paint scheme and special edition. But I would hate to choose the R3 if it's not a lot more comfortable than the R7.
I'm a pretty new rider that started on the R3 and have been thinking about trading up to a R7. Your video has been super helpful in my decision. I also live in Acworth!
To be honest, I am leaning more towards the 2022 suzuki gsx 750.. bearly cost more than the r7.. plus I think it's got like 98HP.. which means that it's got more than enough power for me and my gf to commute
OC: R7 definitely sounds like a fun bike to rip around. it ticks a lot of the boxes when it comes to a bike, without having the extra power that could get you in trouble.
Let’s be honest anything over 500cc has enough power to get you in trouble. Especially around town where the speed limit is 45mph and even slower sometimes lol.I got the majority of my speeding tickets on “slower bikes” because it’s is so much more fun to ring hem out. But if you mean trouble as in getting hurt then yeah I gotta agree with you on that.
man i think i agree bro! i dont know why exactly but my back does not hurt in the aggressive riding position. i truly am not trying to be boastful in fact i am super thankful to the almighty for it. i would love myself one of these machines because i really enjoy riding fast. mostly coz i am riding alone all the time, i dont have a lot of rider friends. also if someone likes bikes i dont think they cannot help but fall in love the way it looks unless of course if they love to take part in the plastic vs metal argument. i own myself a mini r bike and i love how pushing the rev limits is so much easier on these bikes. they posture brings me so much closer to the engine and i can listen to its beautiful grunt and get totally lost in the experience. fully focused i the only time i can ignore the even pretty ladies is when i am on a R bike!
I think ill for ever be a r6 rider, just something about that high end scream trying to pull u off the bike i love. But i will say for a newer rider getting into a super sport bike i agree this is by far the best option for a 600cc. as always great videos!
I want to get on a R7 & compare it to my 2021 Honda CBR650R. Same class bike, a more tamed engine supersport. Although Honda kept the Inline 4, & they adjusted the seat position & rearset position to be more relaxed for touring. Compared to the Yamaha R7 which is a 699cc machine with only 71hp weighing in at 414 lbs. , Honda is a much heavier bike @ 455 lbs dry but is still putting down 94 hp from a 649cc displacement engine. Ive rode liter bikes, 600s, etc. & i think both of these bikes align in the same category as tamed supersports where you can use the whole bike on those back roads & even take it to the track and compete, but it still doesnt have that all out raw power in the high revs like the classic 600s & liter bikes. My point is, being a Honda Fan, I’m surprised i don’t see more material related to the CBR650r compared to all the Vlogs I’ve seen on The New R7 in comparison videos. I will say I believe the CBR650R doesn’t get the credit it deserves and is a better bike & more of a competitor with the Aprilia RS660 than any other bike in this class. Just some Ideas for new content, it’d be dope to see you on the new Honda CBR650R to compare them & hear what you think.
Man i love motorcycles….. maybe it’s because of you and yammi back when i was a teenager and wished i could get a bike asap. Sadly when i turned 18 my country’s currency just dropped like crazy so all my savings were worth like 200$. Hope i can get a starter bike soon and BE a part of the community.
I own a 2020 MT07 and love it. I sold my sports as the riding position was just uncomfortable. I really wouldnt call the R7 a SS. Too many dissimilarities between it and the SS class. I would like to see a track video with two experienced track riders on an R6 and and R7. Im betting it isnt even close. Maybe a triple R7 would be more comparable.
Ofcourse it wont come close in track. R6 with 50 extra hp, aluminium frame. But if you are just an average rider(which we mostly are). R7 beats r6 in terms of usability and reliability. All round bike. Great to ride on track and around town
I absolutely love the R7 and I’m planning on getting one here in the next few months but I really wish Yamaha would’ve never called this a super sport bike because it’s most definitely not. The R6 and R1 absolutely, but the R7 is not. It’s a sport bike but by no stretch of the imagination is it a super sport bike. I wish Yamaha had sport and super sport categories separate like the other Japanese manufacturers do cause this is essentially to the R6 what a Ninja 650 is to the ZX-6R.
@@erichorsley1405 and get this, the ninja 650 isn’t a super sport bike either 💀 the ninja 650 is the sport bike, the zx-6r is the super sport 600 class ninja. You must be new to riding.
The Ninja 650 needs to be labeled as a sport tourer motorcycle with how hight the handlebars are and how low the seat is, and the R7 needs to be considered just a sport bike based on riding style, aerodynamics and engine power.
I wonder, since you rode both of them, which one would consider more, Cbr650r or R7? Both middleweight supersport bikes without too much power and relatively cheap.
Yes excellent question. R7; twin 74hp, $9000. CBR650R i-4 90ish HP, $9400. Or ZX6R, i-4 130hp, $10000. Less difference in price between ZX6R and the R7 than between the R7 and the MT-07.
Cross-shopping this class myself currently. Thinking I've decided on Triumph 675Rs, however. Used they're super reasonable ($) and have Ohlins TTX & NIX30 off the shelf.
I'd love to test ride one in my local mountain roads. I just fear it lacks the power to entertain me. The reason I suspect this is that my VStrom had very similar power and frankly it sort of bored me. I bought a Tracer 9gt and I LOVE that motor! If I were to design my own motorcycle I think it would be a 750 CP3 weighing perhaps 375llbs wet...And I would like the styling to LOOK very full fairing sportbike but actually more of a compromise between fully upright and hunched over ...maybe along the lines of the Honda 800 VFR in ergos...Nobody really builds what I want I dont like naked bikes and sport touring bikes are generally too heavy partly because they always try to make them good for two up touring which adds a bunch of weight. The other big detractor on the R7 is the lack of tech which the best you can do I guess is the optional half a quick shifter?
I think there is an error in your spec sheet around 2:06 where hp & tq mentioned are actually for the ninja 650 while the correct data should be 75hp & 50lb-ft for the R7
Aprilia RS660 please.....looks better, sounds better, HAS TECH TO THE NINES, quick shifter up and down and the exhaust is tucked under the bike which makes it look super clean from either side
You didn't mention that the engine is from an MT-07. So for those who already own MT-07s and are thinking about getting the R7, guess what, you already have one. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Yeah i both of these bikes feel completely different just because the engine is the same doesnt mean the bike feels the same it looks completely different all the suspension is different yeah look at yammie noob comparison he says it feels completely different
It looks super sharp, and the price isn’t out of reach either modern pricing. I’ve ridden 1000s and that’s so much ridiculous power. This seems very useable and capable. Did I mention it’s stunning? 😎
its very good city starter bike you dont need 1000cc for city riding on fan all the time temp 100C i know many Rossi riders will say its too weak but for city you cant drive much over then 60-80 mph
I am between a Yamaha R7 and a Honda CBR650R. I demo an R7 and after 10 minutes of riding my hands started to get sore but I like that in the R7 the power is low in the RPM range. On the Honda CBR 650 R it is a because of a in line 4 it will need to look more at the RPM to get power but the ergonomics look to be better. I will use to bike to go riding in the mountains all day about 8 hours and this will include about 2 -3 hours of freeway riding. Which bike will be better for this style of riding; thank you in advance.
neither but you will be slightly more comfortable on the 650r. for your kind of riding, look into cruisers and sport-touring bikes. your back will thank you.
That sounds awesome. Rs 660 would be my pick. It also has a quickshifter for up and down. Although for a cheaper price you could go for a kawasaki ninja 650. Comfortable, huge tank and easy to ride. But yeah sport tourers would be best
I got to ride this yesterday at a demo day and I legit love the bike think my exact my exact words where omg I love this bike although I didnt get to experience it at like 100 but what I did experience was amazing and later this year If I can even find one im gonna get it other wise I'm getting a ninja 650 but I really am hoping I can find one of these such a beast bike
This bike is like the Nissan 240SX that was released in the US, they used a truck motor for a sports car. While the parallel twin is not that bad here, it's still similar.
I daily ride a MT-07 and I absolutely love it. But it straight up blows on the highway. Anything over 70 is miserable and hurts my neck. That’s where the R7 shines.
I am severely thinking about getting one. The end where your using on back roads, just looks so fun to get out after a long Georgia Winter and go ride. Get away from it all.
I went to the dealer for the r7 unfortunately they did not have any so i went w the 22 ninja 650 krt which i actually love is comfortable and peppy already ordered clip ons to have that sporty feel
Thank you for the content. The last 4 years i havent driven a motorcycle, but the 2,5 year prior i had a R6 (2007). I’m considering buying a R7, but am just a little bit concerned that i might be underwelmed and will miss that beast power. I am wondering what to do.
Thanks for the video, this answers most of my questions about the bike. Now I just need to decide if I can accept the aggressive body posture for daily riding. I think she might be my best option as I don't have space for two bikes.
I have one and it is the least aggressive street bike position I’ve ever experienced. It’s also good to keep your neck up after going all day with your neck down at your phone and computer etc. also, I prefer to put my weight in my hands instead of trying to hold it in my back.
@@carson2583 I want to pull the trigger i have a ninja 650 but I don't want to drop the 9gs and feel like I got around the sane power. Do you think this is much better than the ninja 650?
@@erichorsley1405 the r7 and the ninja 650 are comparatively very similar stats. I have a ninja 650 and an r7. The R7 is a million times better than the 650. Super smooth. The 650 handles fine in the turns. The R7 feels like it takes the turns on it's own and you control it with your mind. It handles like a dream while the 650 can get a little tippy at certain points. The R7 constantly tries to stand itself up so you can push it down on turns. The 650 will start to feel like it will fall at certain points in turns. The R7 has not yet once felt like I was gonna eat shit while turning. The R7 has a 10/10 smooth riding, 10/10 acceleration, and 10/10 handling. The 650 has a 8/10 smooth riding, 7.5/10 acceleration, and a 7/10 handling. Those are just my opinions but IMO, BUY THE R7.
RE: weight. gas maybe? bigger tank on supersports so even if the end weight is the same, you have more weight up top when you have 4.5 gallons of fuel versus the 3.4 or w/e the r7 is? on top of what someone else said about gyro effect
I did enough riding on the R7 after 100m I was already ready to say my vows at the altar to it and put a ring on it.
You dont want an R1 or an S1000rr Lali???
@@myname9252 how can you compare these bikes to a r7? it costs half of it. lol
@@myname9252 I wouldn't want either of those over an r7. Because I like to shift, and I don't want to ride stupid. The R1 does over 100kmh in first gear, you can only do that going on a highway and will never use the rest of the bike.
@@Daniel-dj7fh i love the R1 but you are 100 percent right, its way to much bike for 90 percent of what i would use it for
@@crazysoundman I'd like to know what the 10% is where you use the r1 👀
42yo..life long motorbike history..picked up a 2024 yesterday. Its a phenomenal machine.
update !?
I feel that the R7 is a realistic way to give riders something that we want, we can afford and something we don’t regret owning for a few years. Despite the lack of the inline 4 motor, the parallel twin gives a lot of benefit in return.
I think what I don't like is that we are giving up the inline 4 because people want to look cool than to actually have a capable bike. If the R6 and R7 both existed then I would not care and people could have a choice which is a good thing. I just don't think every bike needs to be a daily. Off road bikes seem to get away with that but sport bikes are falling to it. Like people understand that a dirt bike is not meant for driving to work everyday but is fun in a narrow band of actives like a supersport is.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 you can still order the r6 as a track bike
@@Jamie-gu5cx yea but who has an extra 18k for a track only machine, dont get me wrong, i love the look and everything, but its not financially feasible to alot of us
Hardly comparible, with the design being over 30 years out of date now, but my first motorcycle was a 91 EX500. Renamed to the Ninja after they added a rear disk and changed the plastics in 94. Parallel twin sports bikes are great little things. Have myself an SV650, nowadays, which has the same seating position, about the same triangle, near the same wheelbase, and just an extra 20-30 horsepower. If only Suzuki offered it with fairings.
well now we have the zx4r that has the inline 4 that we love and makes the same power if not a tad more
New rider here. Just purchased the R7 yesterday. Many thanks for this great and informative vid 🙂
Good luck and i hope you dont drop it ive been riding a lil bit before i bought my ninja 400 on a harley roadster and pulled the gun this year. They say your gonna drop it and i learned that on the harley so pls be carefull and go on a track before taking a corner fast on a street corner. GL
how has it been so far ?? do you use it for daily commute?? what do you like and not like about the bike?
Congrats on the bike, and ride safe dude!
I have had my 2022 R7 for a month, and I agree with you 100 percent! I loved my R6 but the R7 is just pure badass bike
When you turn the steering full lock do your hands hit the fairing? Can you make an easy U turn?
@@superstarsfastcars just counter steer
I am considering either the R6 year 2008 or a brand new R7. What would you recommend for day to day use? Riding highways and through the city.
@@AM-pf1nhI think it all depends on the person. But I personally love the R7 for a day to day ride. I currently don’t have a car and only ride my R7 and it’s always a blast. One thing I really like about it for day to day riding is that the R7 has a parallel motor which is why the R7 doesn’t have a power band, instead you have constant power at any rpm’s and that to me makes it much easier and less I gotta think about so I enjoy the ride much more. Plus the cluster gages are pretty cool
@@jessemccutcheon4580 lol
Just picked up a 23’ R7 and loving it! I’m 37 and been in the military for 14 years so we shall see how my back holds up! Watching your videos helped me make that leap from a small bike to this. OC crew out!
I have an mt03, let me know how your back feels im 40, planning to get r1 if not might settle with mt10 haha. Thank you for your service,🇺🇲
@@mikehusky3967 been riding daily for 3 months now and gone on all day rides and no issues with the back yet. Butt gets a little tried but overall it’s not terrible.
Would you recommend it as a first motorcycle is it better than a duke 790 or zx6r
thank you for your service
@@rileylofin7653 if you know how to ride a bike with gears sure but if you never rode any bike at all with gears no R7 wouldnt be a good first bike
I found an interesting situation with my ZX6r. I'm disabled in large part because of my back. I've found that the seating position, while being in a semi-fetal position, actually helps to get pressure off of my back. I thought for sure that it would force me to stop riding. Quite the opposite. When my back is hurting really badly, i take a ride and it helps.
Have you looked into physical therapy? I had similar issues but with my neck to the point I could barely turn my head and would have so much pain it would develop into a headache, and I'd be down and out. I've been going to physical therapy for about a month and I can move my neck again and have pain way less often
@collenroe7405 Oh yeah. I did pt for awhile but to no avail.
That's unfortunate. Sorry to hear that! Hopefully you'll figure a way to get better so you can keep on riding
@collenroe7405 Only death will stop me. Riding is like psychotherapy. A couple of pain pills and I'm good for awhile.
I heard that!
OC: These are the reviews I enjoy when you’ve had an extended amount of time with the bike. Seems like a really solid option if you’re wanting the sport bike looks for the street.
What I’d like to see is a series where you take a super sport and try to make daily-able/more comfortable by putting bar risers, nicer seat etc., and review if it made it livable FOR YOU. I say that because a lot of people want the sport bike looks, feel, and drive without the pain in the back, neck, wrists etc.
True.
Just get the ninja 650 if you want those things
The floopty loop is the perfect stretch of road. Also the bike is tremendously aesthetically pleasing.
OC: I think the R7 is the best looking middle weight super sport bike out there, and with the 'rideability' im looking at getting back on a bike after several years away from them, just need to get my self in gear!
Thanks for the video. I’m getting close to buying my first bike and this is the one I am leaning towards. Be safe.
don't buy a new bike as a first bike mate !
Not the best idea getting this as a first tbh. Start smaller on an RC390 or Ninja 400 or R3 then get this when you're uber confident on those bikes! Much cheaper, far more forgiving and still plenty of power for 95% of situations! Light enough to where you won't struggle if you drop it (which you will).
@@shahzebnasir4692 I'm planning to get a bike in spring and like the other user I'm leaning towards the R7
my biggest problem is that I'm 6'2, so I don't know if I can fit on a smaller bike like a ninja 400 or a R3
@nicolacorvaglia3931 Get a Ninja 650 to start! Better for taller guys and it will feel a lot less overwhelming than turning the throttle on an R7 and feeling all that torque! Upgrade to the R7 once you're comfortable!!
OC: I agree with the “I love the look of a SS, but my back can’t handle the body position for long” take. I couldn’t justify the R7 price point for a non daily rider but seems like the perfect 2nd/track bike.
If your gonna get a second bike for the track you’re better off with a used 600 in my opinion I think the R7 is perfect if you can only have one bike for both
I’ve never ridden the R7 but that’s just how the videos make me feel
My riding style, the MT-07 fits me a lot better. However, I absolutely love the look the R7!
Why cant they sort of split the difference between an R and an MT? I dont like the naked bikes especially since they cheap out on suspension etc .....why cant they just give a bike a bit more upright ergos WITH a fairing ? Honda did that with the VFR it is totally possible Part of the problem is there is such pressure to make bikes cost less which the stupid thing about that is the same guys that bitch about the price and happily settle for a naked bike with downgraded components usually wind up spending a bunch of cash trying to trick it out typically not really improving anything at all except how it sounds maybe....If the market would tolerate a higher price I feel like we could get some really nice bikes directly off the showroom floor! The R7 is an example it costs a couple grand more but it is significantly better it is NOT just styling it is better...But you cant get the same quality with the MT because it is just a pricepoint bike they actually hope you wont buy and instead upsell you thousands of bucks on a CP3 or CP4 model which have options not available on the pricepoint model
@@dougiequick1 they only just released the R7 & next year they are releasing the R9 they have a lot on the plate & a lot in the works over the next 10 years a lot will change!
The reason it has more linear power is because the twin parallel stability is pretty level through rotation. In line 4 engines shake a bit until the RPMs hit about 6k and then it violently sales through it's power band. The R7 just seems lazy in comparison. Yeah it does about 140 (15mph slower roughly than the 600) however the speed in which you get there is what makes me say it's a glorified ninja 650. Great commuter bike. Hands down. No argument. It can even be fun, but when you come from the 600 crowd then you'll be severely disappointed. Especially if you've had anything bigger.
Your arguments up there, you 're still comparing twins and inline4 cylinders. One engine is tuned for torque, the other for hp. You can't just expect the r7 to accelerate as quick as the r6, without keeping in mind that the r6 probably can't start off in 4th gear unlike the r7 because it's got the punch
Hi, this was a good review, taking the platform used back to a more basic unit, like what sport bikes used to be, and I agree that without all the electronic BS you become a better rider, I look forward to the next review .
@@jerryx2000 lmfao
It should be a tripple. Triumph street triple is the perfect every day rider. More than enough power, comfortable and the triple sounds and rides amazing.
If they are smart yamaha will make an R9 with the triple
Cost, that's the issue.
I've just ordered the R7 in Anniversary colours, can't wait till Yamaha UK let me have it!
Saw it yesterday, that thing is sexy. Hopefully gonna get one for myself too.
@@juansolo9166 Good luck!
Definitely looks a loott better than the blue
@@xxATR0CITY I wasn't keen on blue but it was better than the black, I was just gonna get a set of aftermarket fairings down the road to make it look cool, but the anniversary is here! Looks super cool
that colorway is so fucking nice
I brought a R7 and it’s my first bike 🏍 in my whole life so I think it’s a very nice bike to ride
How is it for it being your first bike
@@BOSSHOGG4LIFE1008 I wouldnt get it as a first bike unless you already know how to ride a bike with gears or have really good coordination even then I would still start with a 300 or 400cc
Start of this is so clear and good like watching a movie
Ill say it over and over again. Not everyone wanna shoot down the highway @ 160+ mph lol. I ride everywhere on my Ninja 500, city streets to highways and long road trips and I do just fine and I'm riding on a 451cc bike and its more than enough to perform and overtake on Highways. You have to know your bike.
Another great vid, you and yamz killed the R7 content. Thanks!
I am from India and I agree with you. I am waiting for Yamaha to launch it in few months. Thanks for your videos they are extremely informative 👍.
Yes bro
Been trying to decide what bike to get and this video sold me, thanks!
Hate its ergonomics on the street but on a track day it is a god. I tried the R7 on both street and track day.
That's why yamaha gives you the option to get the mt07
Thanks!
Me and the Bike vs the WORLD!! I love it! awesome video!
Congratulations bro for 1 million
You have really quality content so it makes watching it fun and intresting. As your honest viewer, keeping advertisement in the end of the video is much better to grow your channel audience wise, i could be wrong here, this is just my opinion.
OK. So after seeing the 60th Anniversary World GP paint scheme, I am debating over the R7 and the R3. I've been riding for 20 years and you might ask why I would consider the R3. Well, I have an 05 Zx6R 636 and an Mt-03. The MT-03 was going to be a commuter. But I am very tall above the waist and have wide shoulders. I almost act like a parachute and all the weight is pushed to the back of the bike. Requiring me to raise the rear all the way up and sit up on the tank. Otherwise no bite in the front tire. And since my every day commute requires some interstate riding the front feels like it's just skipping along. So while I really like the R7, I already have a track bike not comfortable for daily riding, I am leaning towards the R3. I know it has a more upright seating position. And seems like the better commuter in a fully faired bike. Not to mention way cheaper. My nephew has been learning to ride on the MT-03 while I've been riding the ZX6. I am mainly debating over the 2 because I really like that paint scheme. Do you guys think the R3 will be more comfortable enough to choose it over the R7? My nephew is reaching the point that he is upgrading to an MT-07 of his own over the next 6 months or so. At that point the MT-03 will be sold and I'm getting a Triumph Trident 660. So neither would be a commuter for a very long time. But it also seems crazy to have the R7 and the ZX6. Neither seeming to be ideal for longer trips. But I will say the ZX6 doesn't seem to have the power band issues a lot of the other inline 4s have. So I don't think I will see as much benefit from the R7 over the ZX6 as say the R6. I know the R3 is the smart choice since it's mainly about the paint scheme and special edition. But I would hate to choose the R3 if it's not a lot more comfortable than the R7.
OC: love the bike, I'm gonna buy this. Thank you for the video
I'm a pretty new rider that started on the R3 and have been thinking about trading up to a R7. Your video has been super helpful in my decision. I also live in Acworth!
you wont regret it
Being a Kawasaki guy I can’t tell you how comfortable riding a zx6r is through street traffic
Great video, I just got one myself. Can't wait for the weather to clear🔥
To be honest, I am leaning more towards the 2022 suzuki gsx 750.. bearly cost more than the r7.. plus I think it's got like 98HP.. which means that it's got more than enough power for me and my gf to commute
It has 112.7hp which is definitely more than enough.
Just had my motorcycle stolen, I’m looking to get this as my next bike. I miss a super sport and I like the street oriented power-band of the r7.
OC: R7 definitely sounds like a fun bike to rip around. it ticks a lot of the boxes when it comes to a bike, without having the extra power that could get you in trouble.
Let’s be honest anything over 500cc has enough power to get you in trouble. Especially around town where the speed limit is 45mph and even slower sometimes lol.I got the majority of my speeding tickets on “slower bikes” because it’s is so much more fun to ring hem out. But if you mean trouble as in getting hurt then yeah I gotta agree with you on that.
So, a mt07.
The giro affect on the cp2 is not as strong as the inline 4 thus why feels obviously more lighter when riding especially in the corners
giro effect?
LOL. Spelling in a forgotten art
@@TheWeidemans ?
@@Daniel-dj7fh Never mind. The drugs haven’t kicked in yet
Really wish they make a R9 out of the R7 chassis. I’d be the first to pre-order one ☝️
oh god yes
man i think i agree bro! i dont know why exactly but my back does not hurt in the aggressive riding position. i truly am not trying to be boastful in fact i am super thankful to the almighty for it. i would love myself one of these machines because i really enjoy riding fast. mostly coz i am riding alone all the time, i dont have a lot of rider friends. also if someone likes bikes i dont think they cannot help but fall in love the way it looks unless of course if they love to take part in the plastic vs metal argument. i own myself a mini r bike and i love how pushing the rev limits is so much easier on these bikes. they posture brings me so much closer to the engine and i can listen to its beautiful grunt and get totally lost in the experience. fully focused i the only time i can ignore the even pretty ladies is when i am on a R bike!
I think ill for ever be a r6 rider, just something about that high end scream trying to pull u off the bike i love. But i will say for a newer rider getting into a super sport bike i agree this is by far the best option for a 600cc. as always great videos!
R6 hands down the best supersport ever made I’ve owned them all and the r6 has stood out the most for me the last two years
The cp2 actually makes 7Nm more torque than the r6's i4, meaning the 07 would pull you off the bike more than the r6
R6 got a B mode it makes the bike dead af 😆
OC: Bought one of these bad boys today. Pick up tomorrow. Let's do this.
I want to get on a R7 & compare it to my 2021 Honda CBR650R. Same class bike, a more tamed engine supersport. Although Honda kept the Inline 4, & they adjusted the seat position & rearset position to be more relaxed for touring. Compared to the Yamaha R7 which is a 699cc machine with only 71hp weighing in at 414 lbs. , Honda is a much heavier bike @ 455 lbs dry but is still putting down 94 hp from a 649cc displacement engine. Ive rode liter bikes, 600s, etc. & i think both of these bikes align in the same category as tamed supersports where you can use the whole bike on those back roads & even take it to the track and compete, but it still doesnt have that all out raw power in the high revs like the classic 600s & liter bikes. My point is, being a Honda Fan, I’m surprised i don’t see more material related to the CBR650r compared to all the Vlogs I’ve seen on The New R7 in comparison videos. I will say I believe the CBR650R doesn’t get the credit it deserves and is a better bike & more of a competitor with the Aprilia RS660 than any other bike in this class. Just some Ideas for new content, it’d be dope to see you on the new Honda CBR650R to compare them & hear what you think.
If they're similar weights, but the R7 feels much lighter, then that means the R7 has a lower center of gravity or lower seat height or both.
its because its a twin an not an in-line 4. The weight is distributed less "horizontaly" on the engine so "tiping" it is easier.
thus lowering the center of gravity, so its basically what you said
Thanks so much for this review, I found it really helpful.
I love the looks of this bike, I would get this 100% if I could buy a bike right now.
After watching these videos on the R7, I’m thinking this may be my first bike!
Waiting for the 2022 R3
Man i love motorcycles….. maybe it’s because of you and yammi back when i was a teenager and wished i could get a bike asap. Sadly when i turned 18 my country’s currency just dropped like crazy so all my savings were worth like 200$. Hope i can get a starter bike soon and BE a part of the community.
Which country if you don't mind me asking? Venezuela? Eastern Europe?
OC - can't wait to see what the 60th anniversary red block racing colour bikes look like. I think the R9 will be the better bike!
The r9 would be awesome if it had a chassis more similar to the R1 then the mt09. My opinion
Bought my r7 today ❤❤
Crazy seeing the Hwy 9 and Mansell intersection in the intro. I know I can trust a local 👌
I own a 2020 MT07 and love it. I sold my sports as the riding position was just uncomfortable. I really wouldnt call the R7 a SS. Too many dissimilarities between it and the SS class. I would like to see a track video with two experienced track riders on an R6 and and R7. Im betting it isnt even close. Maybe a triple R7 would be more comparable.
Ofcourse it wont come close in track. R6 with 50 extra hp, aluminium frame. But if you are just an average rider(which we mostly are). R7 beats r6 in terms of usability and reliability. All round bike. Great to ride on track and around town
@@spider121 mmmmmkmmkmmmmkmmmmm moon mm
I absolutely love the R7 and I’m planning on getting one here in the next few months but I really wish Yamaha would’ve never called this a super sport bike because it’s most definitely not. The R6 and R1 absolutely, but the R7 is not. It’s a sport bike but by no stretch of the imagination is it a super sport bike. I wish Yamaha had sport and super sport categories separate like the other Japanese manufacturers do cause this is essentially to the R6 what a Ninja 650 is to the ZX-6R.
Is it tho. I have a ninja 650 it top out at 128.. this goes 163.
@@erichorsley1405 and get this, the ninja 650 isn’t a super sport bike either 💀 the ninja 650 is the sport bike, the zx-6r is the super sport 600 class ninja. You must be new to riding.
@@erichorsley1405 the r7 tops at 142 and a 650 will go 132 lol
The Ninja 650 needs to be labeled as a sport tourer motorcycle with how hight the handlebars are and how low the seat is, and the R7 needs to be considered just a sport bike based on riding style, aerodynamics and engine power.
I wonder, since you rode both of them, which one would consider more, Cbr650r or R7? Both middleweight supersport bikes without too much power and relatively cheap.
Good ass question
Yea because that cbr650r looks damn good with a I-4
Yes excellent question. R7; twin 74hp, $9000. CBR650R i-4 90ish HP, $9400. Or ZX6R, i-4 130hp, $10000.
Less difference in price between ZX6R and the R7 than between the R7 and the MT-07.
Cross-shopping this class myself currently. Thinking I've decided on Triumph 675Rs, however. Used they're super reasonable ($) and have Ohlins TTX & NIX30 off the shelf.
He answered that, he stated several times that the R7 is his go to Bike.
i own one 2024 and i love it to death. ive had it 3 weeks and i have almost 700 miles on it
This thing Cost 16.000 USD in Denmark where I live… you guys are lucky you have these kind of prices :)
$9,000 in the US but its going to be $14,000 in Australia. I cry.
😐
A few more dollars will get you much more bike for sure.
50 more cc and is still a sport class bike yet is significantly more than the ninja 650. sounds like a no deal
I'd love to test ride one in my local mountain roads. I just fear it lacks the power to entertain me. The reason I suspect this is that my VStrom had very similar power and frankly it sort of bored me. I bought a Tracer 9gt and I LOVE that motor! If I were to design my own motorcycle I think it would be a 750 CP3 weighing perhaps 375llbs wet...And I would like the styling to LOOK very full fairing sportbike but actually more of a compromise between fully upright and hunched over ...maybe along the lines of the Honda 800 VFR in ergos...Nobody really builds what I want I dont like naked bikes and sport touring bikes are generally too heavy partly because they always try to make them good for two up touring which adds a bunch of weight. The other big detractor on the R7 is the lack of tech which the best you can do I guess is the optional half a quick shifter?
72 horsepower is plenty
I think stats you posted are incorrect, because 2022 R7 has almost 75 HP and 50 lb/ft
never disappoint chase great job dud, now is this or for another grand the zx6 .
I think there is an error in your spec sheet around 2:06 where hp & tq mentioned are actually for the ninja 650 while the correct data should be 75hp & 50lb-ft for the R7
OC baby. Getting an R7 in the family .
Only $8,999 for the r7?! We have to pay $14,000 for them lmaooo!
Less tech means more reliable and less headache when you replace some stuff
Aprilia RS660 please.....looks better, sounds better, HAS TECH TO THE NINES, quick shifter up and down and the exhaust is tucked under the bike which makes it look super clean from either side
Oc: The butterfly went kamikaze😭 Chase can't help but to give an in depth review of the bike, the ride and the whole experience.
Get the MT09
OC- cant wait to get started riding!
You didn't mention that the engine is from an MT-07. So for those who already own MT-07s and are thinking about getting the R7, guess what, you already have one. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
It actually feels similar but different. Yamaha made it into a sports feel. They made a really good job taking the mt07 into a sportsbike.
Yeah i both of these bikes feel completely different just because the engine is the same doesnt mean the bike feels the same it looks completely different all the suspension is different yeah look at yammie noob comparison he says it feels completely different
It's tuned differently
It looks super sharp, and the price isn’t out of reach either modern pricing. I’ve ridden 1000s and that’s so much ridiculous power. This seems very useable and capable. Did I mention it’s stunning? 😎
It's not a Supersport mate, it's a sport bike.
Supersports are race bikes with license plates.
its very good city starter bike you dont need 1000cc for city riding on fan all the time temp 100C i know many Rossi riders will say its too weak but for city you cant drive much over then 60-80 mph
You don't even need 1000cc for highway riding, a 125 can get to cruising speed, and something like a 250 can get to that without sweating.
I am between a Yamaha R7 and a Honda CBR650R. I demo an R7 and after 10 minutes of riding my hands started to get sore but I like that in the R7 the power is low in the RPM range. On the Honda CBR 650 R it is a because of a in line 4 it will need to look more at the RPM to get power but the ergonomics look to be better. I will use to bike to go riding in the mountains all day about 8 hours and this will include about 2 -3 hours of freeway riding. Which bike will be better for this style of riding; thank you in advance.
neither but you will be slightly more comfortable on the 650r. for your kind of riding, look into cruisers and sport-touring bikes. your back will thank you.
@@carplay5454 Thank for you recomendation. I will look at sport tourers
That sounds awesome. Rs 660 would be my pick. It also has a quickshifter for up and down. Although for a cheaper price you could go for a kawasaki ninja 650. Comfortable, huge tank and easy to ride. But yeah sport tourers would be best
Thank you for taking the time to give me your suggestion. I would like a RS 660 but the dealers are not conviniently located to where I live.
Try Test driving a Kawa Versys 650.
its a good looking bike
I got to ride this yesterday at a demo day and I legit love the bike think my exact my exact words where omg I love this bike although I didnt get to experience it at like 100 but what I did experience was amazing and later this year If I can even find one im gonna get it other wise I'm getting a ninja 650 but I really am hoping I can find one of these such a beast bike
Had an R1 as my second bike. I sold it for a DR 650. I miss the R1 but I want something with a little less power and is more budget friendly.
This is my next bike for sure
This bike is like the Nissan 240SX that was released in the US, they used a truck motor for a sports car. While the parallel twin is not that bad here, it's still similar.
12:30 and let me quote, lol
"Its not HARD to see during the day, but its sunny and i can BARELY make out anything"
um, so it is hard to see then xD
This bike has a cable throttle not a wired. The cable throttles are what give the 1:1 connection with the power
OC GREAT VID. JUST WHAT I NEEDED CHASE
I daily ride a MT-07 and I absolutely love it. But it straight up blows on the highway. Anything over 70 is miserable and hurts my neck. That’s where the R7 shines.
Can't decide between this or the cbr650r
OC. I’m going to pick me up this 2023 R7 …thinking white 🤔😜
I feel like Yamaha should have just kept making the FZ6R instead
Yes
Agreed.
You didn't talk about changing out the clip ones for dirt bike bars. makes the bike a whole different field
I am severely thinking about getting one.
The end where your using on back roads, just looks so fun to get out after a long Georgia Winter and go ride. Get away from it all.
8:52 bro predicted my move 💀
I went to the dealer for the r7 unfortunately they did not have any so i went w the 22 ninja 650 krt which i actually love is comfortable and peppy already ordered clip ons to have that sporty feel
Thank you for the content. The last 4 years i havent driven a motorcycle, but the 2,5 year prior i had a R6 (2007). I’m considering buying a R7, but am just a little bit concerned that i might be underwelmed and will miss that beast power. I am wondering what to do.
I have a 2010 R6 and a friend just bought the new R7, and it is so much weaker in power, it's definitely noticeable... 130 vs 72
Thanks for the video, this answers most of my questions about the bike. Now I just need to decide if I can accept the aggressive body posture for daily riding. I think she might be my best option as I don't have space for two bikes.
I have one and it is the least aggressive street bike position I’ve ever experienced. It’s also good to keep your neck up after going all day with your neck down at your phone and computer etc. also, I prefer to put my weight in my hands instead of trying to hold it in my back.
@@carson2583 I want to pull the trigger i have a ninja 650 but I don't want to drop the 9gs and feel like I got around the sane power. Do you think this is much better than the ninja 650?
@@erichorsley1405 the r7 and the ninja 650 are comparatively very similar stats. I have a ninja 650 and an r7. The R7 is a million times better than the 650. Super smooth. The 650 handles fine in the turns. The R7 feels like it takes the turns on it's own and you control it with your mind. It handles like a dream while the 650 can get a little tippy at certain points. The R7 constantly tries to stand itself up so you can push it down on turns. The 650 will start to feel like it will fall at certain points in turns. The R7 has not yet once felt like I was gonna eat shit while turning. The R7 has a 10/10 smooth riding, 10/10 acceleration, and 10/10 handling. The 650 has a 8/10 smooth riding, 7.5/10 acceleration, and a 7/10 handling. Those are just my opinions but IMO, BUY THE R7.
In other words great for beginners 👌👌
My 86 interceptor 500 was pretty smooth and made the same hp. Think I paid 3500 in 86. But 70ish hp is plenty without being ridiculous.
I had no idea about the R7! Only 1k more than the money I spent on a 2012 CBR600Rr
RE: weight. gas maybe? bigger tank on supersports so even if the end weight is the same, you have more weight up top when you have 4.5 gallons of fuel versus the 3.4 or w/e the r7 is? on top of what someone else said about gyro effect
“Let’s be honest most of you are watching this in the bathroom right now” me:😳 I feel watched
WOW you called me out, I was actually in the bathroom watching this 😂
I gather the rs660 is the most user oriented
God damn it, i've just bought an liter inline 4 and you're telling me it's not a gòod super sport commuter.... I always get too late to the party....
OC: probably going to purchase this bike in the future, still need more convincing hahaha