I’ve ridden the R6 platform for 8 years. I’m intrigued about the R7 as a street option. Thought the name RS7 would’ve fit better. R7 made me think 750cc super sport…
actually it already kind of has a name that follows Yamaha naming scheme. the real name of the R7 is actually the MT-07R. just like the FZ6 turned in to FZ6R when it got the sportier fairings. also the FZ6R is kind of what the R7 is. a sport bike lookalike that ain't really a sport bike for people who don't want a real sport bike but want something that looks like one
@@SaWuDOHC it wouldn’t win, Blyton has to long stretches for the R7 and the R6 will corner better due to geometry allowance and still have a better frame than the R7
I've had a couple R1s, a couple MT10s, a couple R6s, among other sport bikes... got a R7 on order. Looks like a perfect bike for the streets of my region of the country. Not something I would pick for the open, dry, smooth, and fast roads of the South Western States of the US, I would go with an R1 for that. But where I live it is hilly, twisty, lots of rain, the roads are rough, and lots of vegetation next to the road... which if full of animals that jump out. And lots of LEOs. R7s looks like a good fit.
@@danielcheng5070 True! I love a good supermoto. I had a WR250X, a DRZ400SM, and two KTM 690 sumos. The first two were boringly slow, but the KTMs were a lot of fun.... but at the end of the day they were still KTMs, so I moved on. I wish the Japanese made a bike comparable to them. I ride a XSR 900 now. It is a great fit.
@@CalmHistorian Well, I got the R7, but have since traded it off. In was a nice bike, but in the end the price of the track based ergonomics weren't justified by the power output. If the bike had more relaxed bars I might have kept it. I do like that same engine quite a bit though in the T7. Still enjoying the XSR900 as my "street bike".
I absolutley get the comments regarding the on paper lack of performance of the R7. However having ridden all sorts of poweful bikes, I dropped to an XSR700 back in 2016. I love it, a brilliant balance of fun, the biggest reason being that MT07 engine, its a gem. Far more fun than its figures would suggest. Maybe I have just got old and slow, but I couldnt believe how much fun 70 b.h.p could be.
Yep, im in the same boat. Had several 1000 ccs superbikes now and when i get onto my brothers Ninja 300 i have a ball. I noticed that given I'm an amateur rider even after 15 years riding, i have to really watch throttle inputs in corners and that ruins the fun a bit. My next bike will be smaller. I was really hoping the new tuono 660 would also be a v4 but alas.
I have an MT-07 and I absolutely love it and i can understand, that its more than enough for most people. I mean i gapped multiple Porsches, Mustangs etc in terms of acceleration. But for my personal needs i often wished for more Power so Bikes like the R6 still have the right to be there in my Opinion
Totally agree with you mate 👍 had loads of "big" bikes and gotta say my old MT07 was a blast although I love my gsxs750 I might get tempted next year 😉
I was hoping you would compare elapsed times to show how the bikes actually stack up against each other, but as an R6 owner, I don't suspect this new R7 would hang with the R6. The R6 is just a fantastic bike
Yeah the R7 was a smidge faster around such a tight track where the R6 could not really stretch it legs. Unless you live by the Tail of the Dragon the R6 and other 600-class race replicas are absolute trash street-bikes. The utter lack of torque only makes things entertaining at extralegal speeds and that's no way to live. I forsee the R7 being far, far superior as a middleweight sportbike for the masses instead of a zillion-RPM machine that feels lethargic as a scooter until triple digits.
What i would like to see on a Head to Head. 1. Lap Times 2. Acceleration side to side 3. Braking times side to side... This video gave me 0 of what i was expecting to see.
Yammer Noob made a video of comparing the lap times side-by-side with an R7 and his race bike he even went through all the different braking zones to show you the difference on corner enter and exit speed
it ain't that hard. R6 is a R6 the R7 is a MT-07R with a R7 badge. so question is do you want a naked bike with fairings or a sport bike that's all the comparison you need between the two bikes.
A lot of it is down to using all that hp that is given for either. You'd get more fun wringing the neck out of the R7 for you may be able to with confidence and not intimidating whereas with the R6 it is with hesitancy most times for many. I was actually looking forward to see a head to head comparo reference one to the other though as the head line claimed!
Titles mean nothing. Everything is clickbait, and most people, including this guy, have no fucking idea what they're talking about. TH-cam is a business for most people now since about 2012. No one just makes a video for fun and uploads it. They're all only doing it for clicks and money.
I think what you've said about the R6 is just whats magic about this bike. It's scares you to push it to the limits, with it will sure give you more satisfaction at the end of the day, and with time and respect it will get the better biker out of you. R6 > R7 (far away)
There is no mystery between these bikes even the price is different. R7 for those who wants(most of consumers) to ride mainly in urban areas. R6 for those who wants to ride on track or on highways. Cost of maintenance is also a very important decision factor for many people!
@@danieljordannicol9937 r6 just dont make sense in today day and age its cost way to much and its quite a serious pieace of kit but the huge argument for it is is it worth it you can just get a liter bike for serious track work and r7 would is far better on the road and can be equally just as fun on the track the problem with the r6 or supersport class is that there no place for them today liter bike are just faster with better tech hardware software and weight about just as much unlike liter bike of yester year r7 make more sense for neweer or intermidiate rider who wants abit of simple cheap fun.
I bought a R7. Great on the roads. Really nice because it not to excessive for the road. R6 you definitely want to ride faster. I have a KTM 890 R now to. It screams trouble. Super fun 2 cylinder. Track R6 all the way.
In my opinion the R7 is a great looking bike (important) at a very reasonable price. Ridden at normal speeds on the road it would be excellent, the R6 is a completely different animal and you can't really compare the two...you pays your money and takes your choice,well done Yamaha for giving people the choice
It is interesting because the r7 is basically a linear jump in price/performance from the R3. The problem being they should have moved the line further. 75hp isn’t bad but it’s only 33hp ahead of the r3. I agree with others they should have went with an R9 or something of a larger twin since they already breached the 600cc insurance line. Insurance is bananas compared to the R3, with the R7 being over $1k a year with full coverage you might as well spend the extra and get a liter bike.
That's in the accompanying article :-) - we'd finished recording by the time I downloaded the laptimes, sorry. Have a look towards the bottom of Chad's original review for my additional thoughts: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/yamaha/r7-2022
The r7 engine could do with another 20-30hp. If it were around the 100bhp mark it would be a no brainer. I’ll stick with my r6 2co for now😊 although the aprilia rs660 looks great and has the power too! Just a shame it’s got a lot of reliability issues at the moment 😔
Remember all the videos saying the SV650 was as good as a GSXR 600? Or the Kawasaki 650 was as good as the 636? No, because no one said that. People comparing the R6 and R7 are missing the point. Sure the R7 is a good bike, maybe even an excellent bike for newer, less experienced riders, but in a real world scenario or on any track that isn't a twisty go kart track the R6 wins.
Problem is: it's an YZF-R.. with 100cc's more, one would expect more performance Ok "the environment",... equal performance? Nope, you're riding a choked to death wannabe racebike, this thing has less power than a 2007 SV 650 and almost as heavy Since when did bikers go from wanting to be the bestest, fastests, extremests, to coveting the last place in the paralympics? The only reason to buy a bike like this is because your license doesn't allow it, for the price, you'll find better bikes second hand
@@Nightdare "with 100cc more, one would expect more performance" - not at all haha. It is a whole other type of engine, can not be compared with the cc.
I love small under powered sport cars like Mazda MX-5, Honda S2000, Acura RSX, Afla Romeo GTA-v, Lotus Elise, etc etc etc...so, im sure id enjoy this bike for the street too.
Love the r7 i wanted to hate it because of the old r7 race homologation special from years ago. But smiles for miles great little bike. Obviously built for a price but its got loads of potential for a supertwin racer. Or just a first bike after passing your test. Fairing works really well. Styling is fantastic. You stand up at the lights and look down you think your on an m1 moto gp bike 😂😂😂😂
The R7 is no R6 replacement. its basically the Ninja 650 rival (2 cyl engine, more or less the same power, R design, low end model), and it destroys it badly, so, well done. Maybe the R9 will be the R6 replacement.
No no no, bored of twins and the sound they make. If I wanted a twin sports I'd head to Italy and pick up a Laverda 750S for £4k. We're living in a nanny state, I was reading that bikes fall into the same catagory as petrol/diesel cars, that the UK gov are banning combustion engined bikes too. I don't get it, 37 million cars in the UK and only 1 million bikes half of which are used for a few days a year so I don't undersatand why petrol bikes are being banned when they account for so little polution.
It doesn't matter. Once the petrol cars disappear, so do the petrol stations & the petrol bikes won't be able to get anywhere. We'll get a stay of execution compared to the cars, but in the long run, we depend on the same infrastructure. That's assuming that petrol cars do go the way of the dodo. If electric can't scale up properly & synthetic fuel or hydrogen come good, then everything changes again.
R7 is a genius idea in all honesty. Yamaha completely controlling the market direction with this is amazing the R7 alone is making large difference in America where it's actually considered a beginner bike😅 I should know cause it's actually my 2nd bike
You don't have to spin anything, the new gen 'racebikes' are crap for an analogy, they are advertising these things as if humans going back to living in trees is 'progress' 💩💩
@@0cool966 yeah exactly. R7 is a bike for people who want to look like they like sport bikes but in reality don't. they are trying to push for torque while sacrificing the one thing high speed applications need the most which is HP. i blame all the idiots who constantly complain about how you can't use that power anyway when you in reality can and they just suck dick or are to much of a pussy to actually push the bike. it just infuriates me when people think they can change the whole recipe and then still be included in the gang. the reality of the situation is that the R7 is a trash bike just because of it's name. if it was named MT-07R then it would have ben a great bike
@@rampage3337 Not really. It is an MT-07 engine and frame but they haven't just slapped clip-on and fairings onto it and called it a day. The R7 is geared a bit differently to give more low-end torque and a higher top speed. They are significantly different in how they feel and it's not for PR, it's just to partially fill a void. The MT line is applauded as one of the best bikes out there. It makes sense to build off of that with the new bike. The R7 is not being marketed as a new R6. It never was.
Maybe the R7 could be more fun and easy on road but in my opinion the gap from low power R series and R1still remain. The only way is the R9 and I hope Yamaha will produce soon.
Call it a Super sport til your Blue in the face. That dont make it one. I own 2 R6's and im happier than ever they pulled them. They are only increasimg in value. If they are "re defining " the super sport class. Then they should Probably Re Name it.
I wouldn't get an R7 because i want to play Rossi to my mates. The cp2 is a great city/ backoad engine powerwise, you'll never use the 120 hp at 13k rpm on the r6 outside a track at all. And to add on the benefits, the r7 looks nice and sounds nice.
Sorry that the R6 is not available anymore. As an enthusiast I would not buy the R7. Does not have the punch to satisfy. I would be looking at a BHP in the range of 135 or higher.
This confirms what I knew all along. This is definitely a beginner bike and aimed towards women. The girl scene is kicking up as of late as most of you see on tik tok lol. Girls on 1000rr and R1. Please
I know why the journalist's keep hammering away at the price of this bike however 8200 pounds is still a lot of money. Unless you are planning on racing it in a class, in which case your going to surpass that Aprilia money quickly, why would you not buy a used anything else that's better. Almost any supersport out there built in the last 10yrs is faster, has better components, aftermarket support and will cost considerably less. They market these new bikes like there is no used market. Long live the 600 class!
I agree 100%. As an American, the whole world is turning into one big wussy. The r6 is bulletproof and will literally go a lifetime if maintained correctly, why keep screwing with perfection? The r7 even sounds weak.
@@Gentry09I put 90,000 miles on a 05 r6. Road it hard every time. When I sold it , it was still running strong and shifting good. Never left me stranded. Looking back now I should have kept it
Had both the MT and now race the R6, You could see he struggled selling the R7 next to the R6 as the R6 is superior in every way and worth that extra money. R7 has a little more peak torque but you run out of puff pretty fast and it’s generally a lot slower
It depends on what you're doing with it man. The r6 outclasses it that's obvious. This isn't an R6 replacement. It's a stop gap measure riding the supertwin racing popularity. Some of us will be racing these. If you want a 600, clearly you should buy a 600.
I,ve got a proper R7 owo2 at 147 bhp and to be fair it can be out guned by a good rider on an R6 nowadays, its still an awesome bike to ride ,but most are just pieces of art or showroom investments, i ride mine on road and track and it comes alive on track, i,ve not got a problem with the new model but i wished yamaha had model named it the YZF7 or something else, the name R7 ruffles a few purists feathers, although i would still buy the new one, but in aniversary colours with all the extras, but it will cost around the 10k mark,. i might just try one on a bennetts track day in 2022,.
I don't know. I was expecting the wet weight to have a huge difference from the R6 to balance out the lack of power. yes it might be cheaper but if i want a lightweight nimble track weapon I would just get a Daytona 675R. I wish I could borrow one and try it on a windy road or at the track. That might change my mind.
yeah the R7 is just useless as a R7 bike. it's not a real sport bike and not a real R bike. it's a MT-07R for people who whant to look like they like sport bikes but in reality ain't about that life. i just find the R7 cringe. it misses the point of what a sport bike should be and is rather just a naked bike with sport fairings. it's it's name that ruin it the most. if it was just named MT-07R it would have ben a wonderful bike but because it's named R7 and people believe they are in the same class as other R bikes just makes it cringe. if it was named MT-07R then people would think of it as a naked bike with more sporty fairings for less wind problems. point is that there is no reason to get the R7 as a sport bike because if you want something cheap like 2-5year old used bike. if you think they bike is to much for you and you want to take it easy att first? get a naked or get a smaller sport bike to begin with.
I like your comparison review made it’s pretty cool keeping up with the latest technology and the differences question why didn’t they put a 10 valvetrain head on the R7 when they did it on the TRX, 850?
As a new rider I appreciate starting on the r7. Having 0 clutch experience dealing with shifting/clutch and throttle control/engine breaking/torque I can be intimidating. I will say after a few rides in my bike though I can easily see myself on a 4 cylinder
I really wanted an r7, but was afraid the twin would be screaming and leave me wanting on the long straight highways in Texas. Ended up with a cb650r, in-line 4, so not quite as punchy down low, but plenty of headroom
I'm struggling to decide between the two. Heard some reviewers say the r7 was more fun, but the honda certainly gives more comfort and room to grow into
@@BySixa was hard to find decently put together reviews of the cb650r. Yammy noob kinda glossed over it until he took it to the track and really opened her up, then he loved the bike. In the end I think most other bikes in the 650/700 class would be excellent for darting around the inner city/twisties, and I have zero complaints with the cb650r in that regards. But I also put a lot of highway miles to get to the twisties and in TX if I’m not doing 85 on the highway I’m gonna be roadkill. Hence the desire for something with a bit more top end than a parallel twin. Best way to describe riding the cb650r is there’s a little flat spot in the power band at about 6k rpm. Below 6k it’s quite torquey, not a torque monster, but plenty of torque to dart around and have fun. About 6300 rpm it’s all HP and when slamming through the gears I never drop out of that go juice. At some point I’m going to get an exhaust (kinda liking the quite, other bike is dump out exhaust and loud af) and get it flashed, which will remove the flat spot. Edit: also keep in mind that more fun is relative to what you’re trying to do. In the words of yammy, I’m not tryin to ride “dank nooners” all day. I was after something quick, real world fast (don’t need to hit 90 in first gear), and agile. The cb650r/cbr650 delivers in all of those.
I have a hard time choosing between my girlfriends Duke 390 and my GSX650. 2 completely different worlds but each have their own benefit. Can't deny the street chops of the Duke. Same for the R7.
Bring on the R9, must be a market for it now with the change in supersport rules. Mt09 engined sports bike to race against the MV F3 and the triumph and a bike people could actually buy for the road. Surely the outlay for yamaha would be low too as it’s a well established platform already.
I started back in the 80's on a first gen GSXR750 in the early 2000's I owned a1989 FZR1000 sold it in 2011 way more power than I ever needed, now in 2022 at 56yrs old I just ordered the Yamaha 60th GP Anniversary Edition R7 this should have all the power and nostalgia I will ever need.
I have a 2019 R6 and went for a ride on the R7 wow so dissapointed with the CP2 engine its woeful vibrates like shit.. The bike itself is lovely handles well, brakes good and is super comfy but oh that engine 😔 intersted to see if the R9 ever comes out what that be like.
Im collectn my new R7 on my bd in May. currently im on a 1983 SR 50 - looking forward to the leap into modern tech :) I may even take it to Isle of Man seeing as you mentioned it and win the bloody thing :) ... how hard can it be right?
Pining a 2 cylinder against a 4 cylinder on the track is laughable. I'd own a Honda ruckus over the R7. It is total sacrilege that Yamaha disconnected the R6. Look up the numbers and performance of the R3, ktm 390 and the mt07 and compare them to the R7. It's a cruel joke. Every Supersport rider will know and feel the difference. The people that pick up this bike got played.
They’re bringing back the R6, but you’re gonna be even more disappointed when it has 101 hp to comply with commie euro emissions regulations. The r7 is great, and I’ll take it over an R6 for the street. Having ridden both I find the r6 to be fun but they should really just let the 600cc super sport class die . With technology as it is, you can buy an R1 (with rider modes, premium tech, and other fun shit that the r6 lacks) and it will behave better on the street than an r6 while weighing the same as an r6. Having bought my 60th anniversary r7 below MSRP I would say I haven’t gotten played at all considering I actually use it on the street. And like my old r6, Has enough power to do what I need to do.
dude thank you.. the r7 is a poser ass motorcycle. anyone that really rides knows that this shit is false advertisement from yamaha. such a pathetic bike.
@@aadmzz7428 I think the only mistake yamaha made was the name and letting journalists compare it to the R6 because really they are designed for different purposes. The R7 is a road bike that can enjoy the occasional trackday. The R6 is a track weapon that happens to be road legal. That first category has thousands more buyer's than the second.
It's ridiculous to think that thats R7 is costs -+£16K in my country compared to -+£8K in Uk. But our average salary is 5x less than in the UK. So it's technically 10 times harder to buy that kind of bike in my country and some of Asian countries. (others big bike and supercars also double the price than in the Europe or in the US and exacerbated with 5x lower average salary).
The r7 is just a sports bike for those who want a sports bike but are afraid of them or just didnt want the compromise of a too much revvier motor. Now it has the looks of a sports bike but it is a street racer and nothing more
Perfect bike for A2 licence holders? I get what they are doing here but the love for the 1000's hasn't left me yet lol. Thinking more for a newbie it's a great wee thing 👍🏻👏🏼🏴🍻
My buddie who had no riding experience got a grom as his first bike and he’s been riding for a few years and it is great leaner/fucking around bike and he was asking me about upgrading because he has out grown it and wants more highway capability. He was asking me about the 300cc bikes and I feel like he will be happier 6 months down the road with something like the cbr 500- r7 range. He likes the styling but doesn’t want to get into the 4cyl sport bikes. Any opinions?
It's bc of the price they are trying to make them more affordable. What they should have done was keep the r6 and still sell the r7 for those who need a cheaper but still fun
Oh and I don't understand... You can't ride the R6 on the road anymore due to euro 5 regulations.. Yet it is OK on a race track. 🤔Do they hoover up the emissions on track is it in a glass dome or does the air just stay still not drifting about above race tracks 😕
@@vinc-enzo I doubt that you'd do 10k on an r6 on the road per year. I'm a bad example, I don't ride as big of tours as I would like to but I think I've maybe done 10k in 3 years.
Has anyone realised that engine doesn't like to be ridden up on RPMs? For that style of motorcycle, one WILL want to push it, and above 7/8k RPM, there's NOTHING. But what do I know?
Since it's more a torque over hp engine, you'd the fun is where the torque is at. And that's also probably the reason why they don't seem so happy up high, because they're torque focused engines.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I suspect you need to study how engine configurations work a little more. It's also known yamaha doesn't change the gearing according to use. Think about that.
Yea sure sure mate , now after all the chit chatting on the R7 of how good it is and perks bla bla bla…ride the R6 and show us the footage of it when you do, like you did for the R7…aah there isn’t any….oh well how strange🤔😂😂😂
@@bennettsbikesocial Well I guess it all depends who is riding it too - I think the R6 has been such a successful track bike over the years. I’ve seen Christian Elkin and other great track racers riding one for years over here in NI and its such a great bike to watch, and ride. The R7 seems to be such a firm favourite with journalists and I get it - none of us REALLY need all that horsepower on the road - its brought up all the time, but personally? I dont think The R7 deserves the title of 'R' - if you look throughout their history, its such a soft limp release now - of course we can all blame euro emissions rules. For me personally its about as exciting as a wet bag of chips. That said, I like your content here, always have, so its not just some grumpy youtuber venting without a point just to be awkward and rude. I think I have a point. Yamaha release so very few truly exciting, sexy bikes now. Just look at their line up.
@@theonlyredspecial I would assume the same person rode both bikes. I dunno man, more hp doesn't mean more fast everywhere. You need to be able to use it. A fiat would do as well as a ferarri on a gocart track too.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve been a Yamaha fan since I was a kid. Im 50. This bike shouldnt have the ‘r’ moniker on it. It’s a basic twin putting out minimal horsepower. The r series bikes were always exciting and at the top of their field. Check out Yamahas history. That’s my main point. And it all ties in with Yamahas recent approach of just releasing dull, budget bikes so they can shift units.
@@theonlyredspecial Wanna know of a Yamaha R bike which is a single and makes 15hp? The R125 has been on roads since at least 6 years, I never recalled anyone complain about that bike.
Take a look at the accompanying article, it’s a full review of the R7 from the press launch followed but the breakdown of this particular test towards the bottom. The link is in the description.
I really wanted the r7 until I sat on one. Yamaha went way too race oriented and made a bike that's uncomfortable for the road and underpowered for the track. What I wanted was an r3 with more power and better suspension. What I got was an r6 with no power.
I thought you were going to compare the R7 to the R6 track performance? I agree for a light bike with a little more than half the HP, the R7 is a competitor in its class. The R6 is not in the same class which I think you have said. Sad to see the R6 go.
I’ve ridden the R6 platform for 8 years. I’m intrigued about the R7 as a street option. Thought the name RS7 would’ve fit better. R7 made me think 750cc super sport…
From a fellow r6 owner i'm disappointed at then comment. haha :)
Youre not the ceo tho bro lol 🤷🏻♂️
@Brian - How about R-07 😎👍🏻
Rs7 copyrighted by audi is my guess
actually it already kind of has a name that follows Yamaha naming scheme. the real name of the R7 is actually the MT-07R. just like the FZ6 turned in to FZ6R when it got the sportier fairings. also the FZ6R is kind of what the R7 is. a sport bike lookalike that ain't really a sport bike for people who don't want a real sport bike but want something that looks like one
R6 All day, Every day.
its funny they put it on a tiny little track where they knew the r7 should win and it barely won.
@@SaWuDOHC it wouldn’t win, Blyton has to long stretches for the R7 and the R6 will corner better due to geometry allowance and still have a better frame than the R7
@@SaWuDOHC it's a completely different class of bike. It wasn't about winning. It was about showing its capability.
R6 is the thing childhood dreams are made of
@@ct9683 the r7 did win, it was 4/10s of a second faster per lap than the r6 was.
I've had a couple R1s, a couple MT10s, a couple R6s, among other sport bikes... got a R7 on order. Looks like a perfect bike for the streets of my region of the country. Not something I would pick for the open, dry, smooth, and fast roads of the South Western States of the US, I would go with an R1 for that. But where I live it is hilly, twisty, lots of rain, the roads are rough, and lots of vegetation next to the road... which if full of animals that jump out. And lots of LEOs. R7s looks like a good fit.
maybe should get a supermoto
@@danielcheng5070 True! I love a good supermoto. I had a WR250X, a DRZ400SM, and two KTM 690 sumos. The first two were boringly slow, but the KTMs were a lot of fun.... but at the end of the day they were still KTMs, so I moved on. I wish the Japanese made a bike comparable to them. I ride a XSR 900 now. It is a great fit.
@@leanit5756look for a tm smr 530 ;)
We need an update man
@@CalmHistorian Well, I got the R7, but have since traded it off. In was a nice bike, but in the end the price of the track based ergonomics weren't justified by the power output. If the bike had more relaxed bars I might have kept it. I do like that same engine quite a bit though in the T7. Still enjoying the XSR900 as my "street bike".
I absolutley get the comments regarding the on paper lack of performance of the R7. However having ridden all sorts of poweful bikes, I dropped to an XSR700 back in 2016. I love it, a brilliant balance of fun, the biggest reason being that MT07 engine, its a gem. Far more fun than its figures would suggest. Maybe I have just got old and slow, but I couldnt believe how much fun 70 b.h.p could be.
Most people on TH-cam think that performance equals fun.
Most of them have probably never tried.
Yep, im in the same boat. Had several 1000 ccs superbikes now and when i get onto my brothers Ninja 300 i have a ball. I noticed that given I'm an amateur rider even after 15 years riding, i have to really watch throttle inputs in corners and that ruins the fun a bit. My next bike will be smaller. I was really hoping the new tuono 660 would also be a v4 but alas.
I have an MT-07 and I absolutely love it and i can understand, that its more than enough for most people. I mean i gapped multiple Porsches, Mustangs etc in terms of acceleration. But for my personal needs i often wished for more Power so Bikes like the R6 still have the right to be there in my Opinion
Totally agree with you mate 👍 had loads of "big" bikes and gotta say my old MT07 was a blast although I love my gsxs750 I might get tempted next year 😉
True but going fast is more fun for me 🏍💪🏽
I was hoping you would compare elapsed times to show how the bikes actually stack up against each other, but as an R6 owner, I don't suspect this new R7 would hang with the R6. The R6 is just a fantastic bike
He didn't want to embarrass the R7.
He wants more test bikes so can't upset Yamaha.
If you go to the review page he made the R7 was a faster lap buy 4/10ths of a second
Yeah the R7 was a smidge faster around such a tight track where the R6 could not really stretch it legs. Unless you live by the Tail of the Dragon the R6 and other 600-class race replicas are absolute trash street-bikes. The utter lack of torque only makes things entertaining at extralegal speeds and that's no way to live. I forsee the R7 being far, far superior as a middleweight sportbike for the masses instead of a zillion-RPM machine that feels lethargic as a scooter until triple digits.
What i would like to see on a Head to Head. 1. Lap Times 2. Acceleration side to side 3. Braking times side to side... This video gave me 0 of what i was expecting to see.
Have a look at the accompanying article for lap times and a comparison chart
Yammer Noob made a video of comparing the lap times side-by-side with an R7 and his race bike he even went through all the different braking zones to show you the difference on corner enter and exit speed
The R7 was faster on the lap times mentioned in the article.
it ain't that hard. R6 is a R6 the R7 is a MT-07R with a R7 badge. so question is do you want a naked bike with fairings or a sport bike that's all the comparison you need between the two bikes.
My last 4 bikes were liter bikes including a 2004 R1, but at my age I no longer care about pushing the envelope, so the R7 seems like a great deal.
A lot of it is down to using all that hp that is given for either. You'd get more fun wringing the neck out of the R7 for you may be able to with confidence and not intimidating whereas with the R6 it is with hesitancy most times for many. I was actually looking forward to see a head to head comparo reference one to the other though as the head line claimed!
Yes, I agree. I admit to being disappointed to not see at least a comparative lap time.
Titles mean nothing. Everything is clickbait, and most people, including this guy, have no fucking idea what they're talking about. TH-cam is a business for most people now since about 2012. No one just makes a video for fun and uploads it. They're all only doing it for clicks and money.
I think what you've said about the R6 is just whats magic about this bike. It's scares you to push it to the limits, with it will sure give you more satisfaction at the end of the day, and with time and respect it will get the better biker out of you.
R6 > R7 (far away)
There is no mystery between these bikes even the price is different. R7 for those who wants(most of consumers) to ride mainly in urban areas. R6 for those who wants to ride on track or on highways. Cost of maintenance is also a very important decision factor for many people!
For highway id go with R7, much more fuel efficient and more comfortable.
R6 is awful on motorways
@@danieljordannicol9937 r6 just dont make sense in today day and age its cost way to much and its quite a serious pieace of kit but the huge argument for it is is it worth it you can just get a liter bike for serious track work and r7 would is far better on the road and can be equally just as fun on the track the problem with the r6 or supersport class is that there no place for them today liter bike are just faster with better tech hardware software and weight about just as much unlike liter bike of yester year r7 make more sense for neweer or intermidiate rider who wants abit of simple cheap fun.
R6 is for people who whant to ride a sport bike and R7 is for people who whant to look like they whant to ride a sport bike
@@patthonsirilim5739 my r6 smokes 1000cc what are you talking about
I bought a R7. Great on the roads. Really nice because it not to excessive for the road. R6 you definitely want to ride faster. I have a KTM 890 R now to. It screams trouble. Super fun 2 cylinder. Track R6 all the way.
In my opinion the R7 is a great looking bike (important) at a very reasonable price. Ridden at normal speeds on the road it would be excellent, the R6 is a completely different animal and you can't really compare the two...you pays your money and takes your choice,well done Yamaha for giving people the choice
true, the best looking bike always wins on the track.
You can compare the 2 this is what this article was all about.
The R6 is no longer a on road choice 😢
It is interesting because the r7 is basically a linear jump in price/performance from the R3. The problem being they should have moved the line further. 75hp isn’t bad but it’s only 33hp ahead of the r3. I agree with others they should have went with an R9 or something of a larger twin since they already breached the 600cc insurance line. Insurance is bananas compared to the R3, with the R7 being over $1k a year with full coverage you might as well spend the extra and get a liter bike.
Did I miss the part of the video that showed the lap times for comparison 🙄
That's in the accompanying article :-) - we'd finished recording by the time I downloaded the laptimes, sorry. Have a look towards the bottom of Chad's original review for my additional thoughts: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/yamaha/r7-2022
@@bennettsbikesocial Totally did not expect the times to be so close, or even to see the R7 beating the R6 by a smidge.
Sand bagging on the R6 apparently. Come on guys, there is no way the R7 hangs if the R6 rider is serious...
The r7 engine could do with another 20-30hp. If it were around the 100bhp mark it would be a no brainer. I’ll stick with my r6 2co for now😊 although the aprilia rs660 looks great and has the power too! Just a shame it’s got a lot of reliability issues at the moment 😔
I’ll also stick with my R6.
Time for an R9
Love my r6
true
I agree with the power but just as important is for better suspension and brakes. No compression damping piggyback type shock, really Yamaha?
Remember all the videos saying the SV650 was as good as a GSXR 600? Or the Kawasaki 650 was as good as the 636?
No, because no one said that.
People comparing the R6 and R7 are missing the point. Sure the R7 is a good bike, maybe even an excellent bike for newer, less experienced riders, but in a real world scenario or on any track that isn't a twisty go kart track the R6 wins.
You got a point
Problem is: it's an YZF-R..
with 100cc's more, one would expect more performance
Ok "the environment",... equal performance?
Nope, you're riding a choked to death wannabe racebike, this thing has less power than a 2007 SV 650 and almost as heavy
Since when did bikers go from wanting to be the bestest, fastests, extremests, to coveting the last place in the paralympics?
The only reason to buy a bike like this is because your license doesn't allow it, for the price, you'll find better bikes second hand
R7 is good for going shoping and back :)
@@Nightdare "with 100cc more, one would expect more performance" - not at all haha. It is a whole other type of engine, can not be compared with the cc.
@@kristoffertvedtskramest9550
It's an YZF-R
But as weak as an SV-650
How is THAT for a comparison?
I love small under powered sport cars like Mazda MX-5, Honda S2000, Acura RSX, Afla Romeo GTA-v, Lotus Elise, etc etc etc...so, im sure id enjoy this bike for the street too.
Love the r7 i wanted to hate it because of the old r7 race homologation special from years ago. But smiles for miles great little bike. Obviously built for a price but its got loads of potential for a supertwin racer. Or just a first bike after passing your test. Fairing works really well. Styling is fantastic. You stand up at the lights and look down you think your on an m1 moto gp bike 😂😂😂😂
I want one as my first bike but unsure if it's too large a step. Thoughts?
The R7 is no R6 replacement. its basically the Ninja 650 rival (2 cyl engine, more or less the same power, R design, low end model), and it destroys it badly, so, well done. Maybe the R9 will be the R6 replacement.
No no no, bored of twins and the sound they make. If I wanted a twin sports I'd head to Italy and pick up a Laverda 750S for £4k. We're living in a nanny state, I was reading that bikes fall into the same catagory as petrol/diesel cars, that the UK gov are banning combustion engined bikes too. I don't get it, 37 million cars in the UK and only 1 million bikes half of which are used for a few days a year so I don't undersatand why petrol bikes are being banned when they account for so little polution.
It doesn't matter. Once the petrol cars disappear, so do the petrol stations & the petrol bikes won't be able to get anywhere. We'll get a stay of execution compared to the cars, but in the long run, we depend on the same infrastructure. That's assuming that petrol cars do go the way of the dodo. If electric can't scale up properly & synthetic fuel or hydrogen come good, then everything changes again.
R7 is a genius idea in all honesty. Yamaha completely controlling the market direction with this is amazing the R7 alone is making large difference in America where it's actually considered a beginner bike😅 I should know cause it's actually my 2nd bike
Create the market.
You forgot to show them competing head to head on the track like they title suggests.
I’d get the R7 for street riding and the R6 for the track
Nice compromise, and of course since making this video Yamaha announced the GYTR R6, have you seen that?!
Why wouldn't you get a tracer instead?
@@zefautino because you don't want to look like massive Nigel?
@@chasp_0784 who the fukc is Nigel?
On that track the R7 was faster and it cost a lot less getting the R6 you'd probably be slower and you'd spend a lot more money doing it.
Zero competition, R6 all day
Spin it anyway you want to: R6, one of the greatest supersports ever with an in-line 4 that revs like a Formula 1 car. R7, an MT-07 with fairings.
You don't have to spin anything, the new gen 'racebikes' are crap
for an analogy, they are advertising these things as if humans going back to living in trees is 'progress' 💩💩
Exactly. Everyone in these reviews are pushing R7 which is simply worst bike if you are buying super sport. Just a PR spin.
R7 is a MT-07R with R7 badges for marketing reasons.
@@0cool966 yeah exactly. R7 is a bike for people who want to look like they like sport bikes but in reality don't. they are trying to push for torque while sacrificing the one thing high speed applications need the most which is HP. i blame all the idiots who constantly complain about how you can't use that power anyway when you in reality can and they just suck dick or are to much of a pussy to actually push the bike. it just infuriates me when people think they can change the whole recipe and then still be included in the gang. the reality of the situation is that the R7 is a trash bike just because of it's name. if it was named MT-07R then it would have ben a great bike
@@rampage3337 Not really. It is an MT-07 engine and frame but they haven't just slapped clip-on and fairings onto it and called it a day. The R7 is geared a bit differently to give more low-end torque and a higher top speed. They are significantly different in how they feel and it's not for PR, it's just to partially fill a void. The MT line is applauded as one of the best bikes out there. It makes sense to build off of that with the new bike. The R7 is not being marketed as a new R6. It never was.
Maybe the R7 could be more fun and easy on road but in my opinion the gap from low power R series and R1still remain. The only way is the R9 and I hope Yamaha will produce soon.
Yes we’re definitely looking forward to that one!
@@bennettsbikesocial Me too
I don’t see the point of an R9 just bring back the R6?
@@FriskyDecisions euro5 emissions is the problem with that engine
@@liam-lh2nm could they not do a slightly bigger displacement like the ninja 636 which I believe is still sold 🤷🏼♂️
Call it a Super sport til your Blue in the face. That dont make it one. I own 2 R6's and im happier than ever they pulled them. They are only increasimg in value. If they are "re defining " the super sport class. Then they should Probably Re Name it.
I wouldn't get an R7 because i want to play Rossi to my mates.
The cp2 is a great city/ backoad engine powerwise, you'll never use the 120 hp at 13k rpm on the r6 outside a track at all. And to add on the benefits, the r7 looks nice and sounds nice.
Great video and insight. Very informative.
Thank you :)
Sorry that the R6 is not available anymore. As an enthusiast I would not buy the R7. Does not have the punch to satisfy. I would be looking at a BHP in the range of 135 or higher.
This confirms what I knew all along. This is definitely a beginner bike and aimed towards women. The girl scene is kicking up as of late as most of you see on tik tok lol. Girls on 1000rr and R1. Please
I know why the journalist's keep hammering away at the price of this bike however 8200 pounds is still a lot of money. Unless you are planning on racing it in a class, in which case your going to surpass that Aprilia money quickly, why would you not buy a used anything else that's better. Almost any supersport out there built in the last 10yrs is faster, has better components, aftermarket support and will cost considerably less. They market these new bikes like there is no used market. Long live the 600 class!
All cool except 600 class is long dead
Ridden by fat 50 year olds in urban camouflage trousers……
Also the younger the user the less likely they are to wear gloves.
Just trash the r7 and give us back the 6.. I hate how soft this new generation is
they didnt trash the r6 because they wanted to its only due the emission regulations
I agree 100%. As an American, the whole world is turning into one big wussy. The r6 is bulletproof and will literally go a lifetime if maintained correctly, why keep screwing with perfection? The r7 even sounds weak.
@@aryantyagi12aThey retired one of the best bikes because of the EU trash, Ruined it for the rest of the world
Not every rider wants to break bank to go fast in a straight line.
@@Gentry09I put 90,000 miles on a 05 r6. Road it hard every time. When I sold it , it was still running strong and shifting good. Never left me stranded. Looking back now I should have kept it
Had both the MT and now race the R6, You could see he struggled selling the R7 next to the R6 as the R6 is superior in every way and worth that extra money. R7 has a little more peak torque but you run out of puff pretty fast and it’s generally a lot slower
It depends on what you're doing with it man. The r6 outclasses it that's obvious. This isn't an R6 replacement. It's a stop gap measure riding the supertwin racing popularity. Some of us will be racing these. If you want a 600, clearly you should buy a 600.
A shame that right now in stores the R6 is not gonna be an option for the road eh?
@@Daniel-dj7fh pretty much mate, more expensive as well
@@ct9683 bingo, secured my '19 R6 last month and never looked back. Superior style, sound, performance, aftermarket support, etc the list goes on
@@EEE92647 enjoy it mate, great bikes, just sold mine to go minitwins next season due to cost of a 600 set up, but will miss that bike
As society becomes more docile and less aggressive, so will the vehicles the newer generation of riders will want.
For me it's such a let down. I wish Yamaha would move away from this R7 derivative also. R6 = screamer R7 = twin lacking any balls...
If it doesn't rev to the moon its not an R its an MT. Just my honest opinion. Im also pretty sure the R6 would wet mop the R7 around a track.
And you’re point is what?
@@northernowl7087 pretty self explanatory I think.
I don't think anyone ever said that the R7 is supposed to be faster than the R6
the r6 had a slower lap time in this test
And yet on this track the R7 was faster
The latest Suzuki GSXR-750 craps all over both them as a versatile handling + with better power to weight ratio and better value for money 👍
My r6 eats 750s for breakfast little boy 😂😂🤣
@@KapitanPisoar1 when it’s e85 and tune I’m pretty sure it would buddy you don’t even have a bike
@@KapitanPisoar1 you don’t have anything lmao show me
@@KapitanPisoar1 yea bro your probably 13
@@KapitanPisoar1 what is good riding to you?
I,ve got a proper R7 owo2 at 147 bhp and to be fair it can be out guned by a good rider on an R6 nowadays, its still an awesome bike to ride ,but most are just pieces of art or showroom investments, i ride mine on road and track and it comes alive on track, i,ve not got a problem with the new model but i wished yamaha had model named it the YZF7 or something else, the name R7 ruffles a few purists feathers, although i would still buy the new one, but in aniversary colours with all the extras, but it will cost around the 10k mark,. i might just try one on a bennetts track day in 2022,.
R7 is not match for R6. R6 is one of it’s kind & it’s just undefeatable.
In my dream world the R7 would have been a modern OW-02 then Suzuki would counter with an all new GSX-R750, if only
I prefer a flatplane or screamer sound, so I would pick the R6
I don't know. I was expecting the wet weight to have a huge difference from the R6 to balance out the lack of power. yes it might be cheaper but if i want a lightweight nimble track weapon I would just get a Daytona 675R. I wish I could borrow one and try it on a windy road or at the track. That might change my mind.
yeah the R7 is just useless as a R7 bike. it's not a real sport bike and not a real R bike. it's a MT-07R for people who whant to look like they like sport bikes but in reality ain't about that life. i just find the R7 cringe. it misses the point of what a sport bike should be and is rather just a naked bike with sport fairings. it's it's name that ruin it the most. if it was just named MT-07R it would have ben a wonderful bike but because it's named R7 and people believe they are in the same class as other R bikes just makes it cringe. if it was named MT-07R then people would think of it as a naked bike with more sporty fairings for less wind problems. point is that there is no reason to get the R7 as a sport bike because if you want something cheap like 2-5year old used bike. if you think they bike is to much for you and you want to take it easy att first? get a naked or get a smaller sport bike to begin with.
I own a 2008 R6 and I doubt very much that the R7 would live with it on or off track.
Just hyping up a bike for the sake of it is ridiculous.
Great review!
I like your comparison review made it’s pretty cool keeping up with the latest technology and the differences question why didn’t they put a 10 valvetrain head on the R7 when they did it on the TRX, 850?
As a new rider I appreciate starting on the r7. Having 0 clutch experience dealing with shifting/clutch and throttle control/engine breaking/torque I can be intimidating. I will say after a few rides in my bike though I can easily see myself on a 4 cylinder
I really wanted an r7, but was afraid the twin would be screaming and leave me wanting on the long straight highways in Texas. Ended up with a cb650r, in-line 4, so not quite as punchy down low, but plenty of headroom
I'm struggling to decide between the two. Heard some reviewers say the r7 was more fun, but the honda certainly gives more comfort and room to grow into
@@BySixa was hard to find decently put together reviews of the cb650r. Yammy noob kinda glossed over it until he took it to the track and really opened her up, then he loved the bike.
In the end I think most other bikes in the 650/700 class would be excellent for darting around the inner city/twisties, and I have zero complaints with the cb650r in that regards. But I also put a lot of highway miles to get to the twisties and in TX if I’m not doing 85 on the highway I’m gonna be roadkill. Hence the desire for something with a bit more top end than a parallel twin.
Best way to describe riding the cb650r is there’s a little flat spot in the power band at about 6k rpm. Below 6k it’s quite torquey, not a torque monster, but plenty of torque to dart around and have fun. About 6300 rpm it’s all HP and when slamming through the gears I never drop out of that go juice.
At some point I’m going to get an exhaust (kinda liking the quite, other bike is dump out exhaust and loud af) and get it flashed, which will remove the flat spot.
Edit: also keep in mind that more fun is relative to what you’re trying to do. In the words of yammy, I’m not tryin to ride “dank nooners” all day. I was after something quick, real world fast (don’t need to hit 90 in first gear), and agile. The cb650r/cbr650 delivers in all of those.
I have a hard time choosing between my girlfriends Duke 390 and my GSX650. 2 completely different worlds but each have their own benefit. Can't deny the street chops of the Duke. Same for the R7.
Bring on the R9, must be a market for it now with the change in supersport rules. Mt09 engined sports bike to race against the MV F3 and the triumph and a bike people could actually buy for the road. Surely the outlay for yamaha would be low too as it’s a well established platform already.
It's coming, google it
Where is the R6 footage? Or was "Head-to-head" just click bait?
Gr8 vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
What was the time different on track...?
Thanks for making this comparison.
Wish they'd make an R9
looks great, but that rear brake reservoir and hose is pretty huge in size in that R7. doesn't fit the look.
I started back in the 80's on a first gen GSXR750 in the early 2000's I owned a1989 FZR1000 sold it in 2011 way more power than I ever needed, now in 2022 at 56yrs old I just ordered the Yamaha 60th GP Anniversary Edition R7 this should have all the power and nostalgia I will ever need.
I have a 2019 R6 and went for a ride on the R7 wow so dissapointed with the CP2 engine its woeful vibrates like shit..
The bike itself is lovely handles well, brakes good and is super comfy but oh that engine 😔
intersted to see if the R9 ever comes out what that be like.
Im collectn my new R7 on my bd in May. currently im on a 1983 SR 50 - looking forward to the leap into modern tech :) I may even take it to Isle of Man seeing as you mentioned it and win the bloody thing :) ... how hard can it be right?
Next on Bennett's, we compare apples to coconuts. Tune in to find out which is better.!
Pining a 2 cylinder against a 4 cylinder on the track is laughable. I'd own a Honda ruckus over the R7. It is total sacrilege that Yamaha disconnected the R6. Look up the numbers and performance of the R3, ktm 390 and the mt07 and compare them to the R7. It's a cruel joke. Every Supersport rider will know and feel the difference. The people that pick up this bike got played.
They’re bringing back the R6, but you’re gonna be even more disappointed when it has 101 hp to comply with commie euro emissions regulations.
The r7 is great, and I’ll take it over an R6 for the street. Having ridden both I find the r6 to be fun but they should really just let the 600cc super sport class die . With technology as it is, you can buy an R1 (with rider modes, premium tech, and other fun shit that the r6 lacks) and it will behave better on the street than an r6 while weighing the same as an r6. Having bought my 60th anniversary r7 below MSRP I would say I haven’t gotten played at all considering I actually use it on the street. And like my old r6, Has enough power to do what I need to do.
People love the hype buddy
dude thank you.. the r7 is a poser ass motorcycle. anyone that really rides knows that this shit is false advertisement from yamaha. such a pathetic bike.
@@aadmzz7428 - You sound like a poser lol. Anyone paying attention knows these bikes aren't even comparable and appeal to different types of riders.
@@aadmzz7428 I think the only mistake yamaha made was the name and letting journalists compare it to the R6 because really they are designed for different purposes. The R7 is a road bike that can enjoy the occasional trackday. The R6 is a track weapon that happens to be road legal. That first category has thousands more buyer's than the second.
Why get rid of an r6 for an overgrown moped??
I love the R7 looks, but I'm baffled to that learn that it is pretty much a downgrade from a R6
It's ridiculous to think that thats R7 is costs -+£16K in my country compared to -+£8K in Uk. But our average salary is 5x less than in the UK.
So it's technically 10 times harder to buy that kind of bike in my country and some of Asian countries. (others big bike and supercars also double the price than in the Europe or in the US and exacerbated with 5x lower average salary).
What happened to the R9 that was coming?
We as eager for more news on that as you are, ever since we broke the news in August.
Great article on the website! 👍
The lack of power on anything but go-kart tracks would bum me out.
The r7 is just a sports bike for those who want a sports bike but are afraid of them or just didnt want the compromise of a too much revvier motor.
Now it has the looks of a sports bike but it is a street racer and nothing more
Perfect bike for A2 licence holders? I get what they are doing here but the love for the 1000's hasn't left me yet lol. Thinking more for a newbie it's a great wee thing 👍🏻👏🏼🏴🍻
Imagine having the government what kind of bike you can buy
My buddie who had no riding experience got a grom as his first bike and he’s been riding for a few years and it is great leaner/fucking around bike and he was asking me about upgrading because he has out grown it and wants more highway capability. He was asking me about the 300cc bikes and I feel like he will be happier 6 months down the road with something like the cbr 500- r7 range. He likes the styling but doesn’t want to get into the 4cyl sport bikes. Any opinions?
I want to ask r7 got high temperature at the traffic same as r6?I know both arent bikes for the city.
It's bc of the price they are trying to make them more affordable. What they should have done was keep the r6 and still sell the r7 for those who need a cheaper but still fun
R7 is a budget motorcycle. They shouldn't have disconnected R6 in North America.
I will stick to my r6 thankyou very much.
Inline 4 vs parallel twin? No chance r6 all day on track
Oh and I don't understand... You can't ride the R6 on the road anymore due to euro 5 regulations.. Yet it is OK on a race track. 🤔Do they hoover up the emissions on track is it in a glass dome or does the air just stay still not drifting about above race tracks 😕
Private land so can’t be enforced 🤷♂️
Emission regulations are only enforced on the public roads
@@vinc-enzo this is very true
@@vinc-enzo I doubt that you'd do 10k on an r6 on the road per year.
I'm a bad example, I don't ride as big of tours as I would like to but I think I've maybe done 10k in 3 years.
No traction control on the R7 but there's traction control on the new R15.
What's Yamaha upto? 🤔
R7 Cant beat R6 on the road or circuit😎👍
Did you not read the last time results?? The R7 beat the R6 around the track in this test.
It will in sales :D
Has anyone realised that engine doesn't like to be ridden up on RPMs?
For that style of motorcycle, one WILL want to push it, and above 7/8k RPM, there's NOTHING.
But what do I know?
I couldn't agree more, the CP2 is the best engine in the world for a naked, its no sportsbike engine though.
Peak power was 9700 on the dyno
@@ct9683 you just rat on yourself.
Since it's more a torque over hp engine, you'd the fun is where the torque is at. And that's also probably the reason why they don't seem so happy up high, because they're torque focused engines.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I suspect you need to study how engine configurations work a little more.
It's also known yamaha doesn't change the gearing according to use. Think about that.
My dad had an 06 r6, thats the one i learned on.
Yea sure sure mate , now after all the chit chatting on the R7 of how good it is and perks bla bla bla…ride the R6 and show us the footage of it when you do, like you did for the R7…aah there isn’t any….oh well how strange🤔😂😂😂
wheels (dimensions are the same?) rear wheel at R7 looks smaller
Tires don't always have the same shape
I’m kinda crushing on that r7.
Pointless as the r7 isn’t something to match or replace an r6, some places in the uk the r7 will be more fun Mallory etc but the r6 is a god
It’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford Fiesta.
And yet there was only 4/10ths of a second in the lap times… on this circuit.
@@bennettsbikesocial Well I guess it all depends who is riding it too - I think the R6 has been such a successful track bike over the years.
I’ve seen Christian Elkin and other great track racers riding one for years over here in NI and its such a great bike to watch, and ride. The R7 seems to be such a firm favourite with journalists and I get it - none of us REALLY need all that horsepower on the road - its brought up all the time, but personally? I dont think The R7 deserves the title of 'R' - if you look throughout their history, its such a soft limp release now - of course we can all blame euro emissions rules.
For me personally its about as exciting as a wet bag of chips. That said, I like your content here, always have, so its not just some grumpy youtuber venting without a point just to be awkward and rude. I think I have a point. Yamaha release so very few truly exciting, sexy bikes now. Just look at their line up.
@@theonlyredspecial I would assume the same person rode both bikes. I dunno man, more hp doesn't mean more fast everywhere. You need to be able to use it.
A fiat would do as well as a ferarri on a gocart track too.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve been a Yamaha fan since I was a kid. Im 50. This bike shouldnt have the ‘r’ moniker on it. It’s a basic twin putting out minimal horsepower. The r series bikes were always exciting and at the top of their field. Check out Yamahas history. That’s my main point. And it all ties in with Yamahas recent approach of just releasing dull, budget bikes so they can shift units.
@@theonlyredspecial Wanna know of a Yamaha R bike which is a single and makes 15hp? The R125 has been on roads since at least 6 years, I never recalled anyone complain about that bike.
Blake Davis R7 took the championship from the rs660 MotoAmerica 2022!!
they have simply out priced themselves. 12k, you can get a car for that price
I'm more of a countryside rider, I think I'm going to love the bike
The R7 is under no circumstance a replacement to the R6. Discontinuing the R6 and thinking the R7 will replace it is just dumb.
Why Yamaha didn't stick the 900 triple into it 🤨
Because that's what they'll do after they kill off the R1
Feels like a video trying to sell the R7 instead of a "head to head". I ride 2008 R6 and that thing is crazy fast. Buy a used 2017 model FTW
You take it on the track and give no time. I suspect the R7 got owned.
Why not use MT-09 engine?
Obviously,
A used zx6r is the way to go.
it sounds horrible, I really dislike the twin cylinder sound. I love the high revving inline 4s
I like the yamaha r7 but I would like to see some lap times too.
Take a look at the accompanying article, it’s a full review of the R7 from the press launch followed but the breakdown of this particular test towards the bottom. The link is in the description.
Maybe I missed them, but what kind of track comparison doesn't include lap times?
They’re on the accompanying article
R6 all day! R7 could have been a superb bike, but not to be!
Sack the RD fud!
Please, please, please. What is the song at 6:45 I need it bad.
I hope they make an r7 to match the R6 market. I'm prolly going to go with zx6r since R6 isn't out anymore.
good decision!
You'll probably enjoy the ZX more. The 2022 one is fantastic.
What’s the lap time difference
I really wanted the r7 until I sat on one. Yamaha went way too race oriented and made a bike that's uncomfortable for the road and underpowered for the track. What I wanted was an r3 with more power and better suspension. What I got was an r6 with no power.
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@@nickn8564 great bikes. my next is going to be a s1000r tho
I thought you were going to compare the R7 to the R6 track performance? I agree for a light bike with a little more than half the HP, the R7 is a competitor in its class. The R6 is not in the same class which I think you have said. Sad to see the R6 go.