In our house my family knows when im working on RC stuff because of your signature name intro. I know they don't come close to getting the pronunciation right but every one in the house knows who Pavel Spuchalski is :)
Thank you Pawel - one question - say i have camstab tilt servo on CH6, automatically keeping the horizon in view as i fly - can i ALSO tilt up and down using the SBUS CH6 mapped to a slider on my handset? 👍
I have been using it on cleanflight/betaflight for years!! I use it to choose the angle of the cam. so much easier to land and choose HIGH speed mode! Will use it if I have spare outputs and servo's and time!! Thanx for supporting servo!
Pretty interesting, Pawel! Thanks a lot!!! 😃 Question... If I want to control the gimbal manually, with 2 sliders on the transmitter, for example... Is it possible to set up? (Sorry for the beginner question, I didn't have any experience with iNav yet. 😬)
You can simply control two servos (for pan/tilt e.g.) with two RC channels, but that wouldn't be the "Servo Gimbal" (i.e. stabilized to roll/pitch movement of the FC) feature.
Pawel, as always, thank you for sharing this information! Could you publish a video on how to configure INAV to setup a tricopter? I realize is not a common frame being flown today but those of us who still do could really benefit from a tutorial addressing this type of setup.
I built a nitro plane to run on iNav and I've come across some difficulties. Needless to say there isn't a profile one so I set my throttle to a servo and have been controlling it in manual mode that way. However, when I throttle to full and give full aileron deflection left or right my flight controller seems to freeze up for a second or two and I can't figure out why. Any ideas? or perhaps an easier way to program in a nitro plane? Thank you
Are the servo settings in this video the same as the servo settings in inav Version 7.1 or later? I have a Runcam Mini FVP Dvr, which has a pin for the on/off button, namely the H/L pin. so can I use the servo Pin where I use a flight controller, Speedybeey F405 V3. where there are empty pins, namely: Pins M5, M6, M7, M8, TEL, S9, SBUS. If all the pins can be used for the on/off button via the settings in Inav 7.1, is it programmed by setting the servo settings? a little information, my Runcam Mini DVR can only record 5 minutes. and I have used all the buttons on my remote. Can I use the Arming button for switch button settings in the DVR recording mode that I have?
how do you tell if an fc supports servo outputs. I have an a goku F7 that has 6 motor outputs i'm using using it for a quadcopter, m5 and m6 use there own timer so i'm assuming tthese will work for servo outputs
Unfortunately no brushless motor design is light/compact/strong enough for this (if not using gears that is). Regular servos can be ultrasmooth though, it just requires higher pwm resolution which is currently not standard. Most rc protocols have 1024 steps for full range
@@Felix3301 you are correct. I'm not sure it's so dumb though, a brushless gimbal motor isn't that heavy and they should have far higher reaction times and more accurate positioning than a servo. Pawel tells us not to use P, how much faster do control surfaces need to actuate before it's useful?
Hi pawel, i have a 360deg pan servo but i cant seam to get it past the normal servo throw in the mixer, ive tried difrent servo weights, rates and percentages, it must be possable, hopfully you can shead some light on it for me?
Hello Pawel, thank you for this video . Can you help me to use my TX to control pitch of the motor gimbal? I have QAV 500, with Matek f405ctr and motor gimbal with control board, and Jumper T18. Previously the gimbal was connected directly to the receiver, but now I am using ppm with only one wire for flight controller control. All outputs go directly to the flight controller and i guess i need to wire the gimbal to the flight controller to have it pick up the pwm from the flight controller for the gimbal pitch. Any help on how to achieve this would be a great help. Thank you.
hi pawel, i followed you tutorial and ty, i have a matek 722se and have added 1 servo, i have installed it on s7 and set everying to servo7 , s7. i have the servo powered of a 5v and i have tried both gimbal pitch and tried using a pot to change the pwm values. i have checked the wiring and have checked the servo with a servo tester and its fine. in i nav i see the channel pwm on both the pot and servo gimbal. i have checked that the servo is getting 5v, i have tested it with battery connected. is there anything i am missing. castab is active
Would be useful if this explained the Weighting and its relationship between board movement and the servo movement. I'm having to use Weights of 300-500 to keep things level, with almost double on the roll vs the pitch for some reason. Servos directly connected. If this is designed to keep things level then the Weighting doesn't make sense for normal servos.
@@FPVUniversity nice, can’t find good literature about it, so it’s stabilized yaw even in manual not stabilized mode? I want to build an wing without vertical stabilizers and use motors to stabilize yaw just like B2 bomber, but I’d like to fly it in manual and in acro mode, but the yaw must be stabilized all the time!
I think it could be possible to use stepper motor if a driver or esc will be reprogrammed to work like a servo. Of course, to make a full gimball, the motor should have at list the zero position, but if we can assume the camera is leveled at power on, an reprogrammed esc could move the stepper like a servo. What do you think about this? Completely insane?
I've done that servo gimbal with Omnibus F4 v2.1 but for some reason sometimes it works and sometimes it has suuuuper slow reactions, what's more reaction in Inav (Setup page with the moving "brick") is also super slow. It's like 50% time it's ok and 50% slow. Have you got any idea why?
Hello I am configuring a drone from cn inav fc omnibus F4 v3 sn managed to do almost everything but I can not configure a 2-axis gimbal on the fc especially the motor pich x make it move via the remote control could you help me?
Andrew Netwon did some cool videos with the iNav Gimbal function earlier in 2019, I would love to try it out but most of the planes I would want it on I already have all the FC servo outputs used up. Maybe someday I'll grab a F765-Wing and use this function. Thanks for sharing!
@@StefanNaewe I have a few omnibusf4pro FCs around and thought about it, but also not something I want bad enough to mess with right now. Good idea though
Wouldn't it be a way to rip a ready buld handheld gimbal like the Zhiyun C1 or similiar you can get for 50€ . Those usually have a mini joystick and 2 buttons or so which we should be able to control remotely I guess. The whole logic of stabilsation and so on would come from the Zhiyun C1 ... we would only have to transmit the basic orientation pan / tilt / while the stabilization would be done by the whole Zhiyun logic. Those gimbals are quite reliable to the noisy servo selfprints. But I do not know if the Zhiyun board would be happy with PWM input signals from the FC or what the need to be happy. The only thing I know for sure is that they have become quite cheap especially when you buy one used which are sold here for 30 something €. thanks
Thanks for all your Help. I'll be a patreon asp. Least I could do. Just letting you know I appreciate the help. Hopefully I don't crash And burn my maiden. Made it Bear tough.. I think?? Never flew a plane. Lol Save and reboot 💪💪👍💪
Hi Paweł, let me ask you a question about gimbal. Is it possible to do such a settings in iNav like you can see in my video?th-cam.com/video/M8XnRzbAibI/w-d-xo.html The pitch serve moves when plane turns to the sides. I use it to have better view when turning. I use EXPO there to move just a little when turn is low and more quicker move when turn is sharper. Also, I have dead zone configured to keep the servo still when plane moves only a bit. Thanks.
YES! The full name is back... ;-)
In our house my family knows when im working on RC stuff because of your signature name intro. I know they don't come close to getting the pronunciation right but every one in the house knows who Pavel Spuchalski is :)
Hehehe I allmost could pronounce it! Keep it!
for stabilizing controlable servo gibmal just make 4 mixes: servo 0 gimbal roll, servo1 gimball pitch, servo 0 RCchannel 7(or any), servo 1 RCchannel 8(or any). Pawel, you should explain this.
Whenever I look up multirotor tech stuff you always seem to have a great video for it. Subbed!
iNav gold again. Thanks Pawel, I use this feature on a one axis roll gimbal. Looks very cool with the plane in the view rolling around the horizon.
Not the best FPV experience probably :)
@@FPVUniversity Correct. Only for HD recording
Thank you Pawel - one question - say i have camstab tilt servo on CH6, automatically keeping the horizon in view as i fly - can i ALSO tilt up and down using the SBUS CH6 mapped to a slider on my handset? 👍
I have been using it on cleanflight/betaflight for years!! I use it to choose the angle of the cam. so much easier to land and choose HIGH speed mode! Will use it if I have spare outputs and servo's and time!! Thanx for supporting servo!
were you able to change camera position or the gimbal here is only for stabilization purposes?
@@sfera888 both as far as i remember. I could switch between follow/steady and tilt up/down
@@jurikristjouw awesome! Thank you!
@@jurikristjouw You were using INav as a firmware right, now ArduPilot ?
@@sfera888 correct, it was iNav at the time.
Pretty interesting, Pawel! Thanks a lot!!! 😃
Question... If I want to control the gimbal manually, with 2 sliders on the transmitter, for example... Is it possible to set up?
(Sorry for the beginner question, I didn't have any experience with iNav yet. 😬)
You can simply control two servos (for pan/tilt e.g.) with two RC channels, but that wouldn't be the "Servo Gimbal" (i.e. stabilized to roll/pitch movement of the FC) feature.
Hhhmmm....thinking a little bit furhter, I think you can combine both by using a servo mixer (gimbal + RC channel). Will try that later.
@@StefanNaewe Nice! Thanks! 😃
yes, this is the way to do it
@@MCsCreations That's the way it works: imgur.com/uABBFUO
Pawel, as always, thank you for sharing this information! Could you publish a video on how to configure INAV to setup a tricopter? I realize is not a common frame being flown today but those of us who still do could really benefit from a tutorial addressing this type of setup.
Hi ! Is there any way to control with iNav the modern sBus servos and trigger camera ? (For example the Siyi A8)
I built a nitro plane to run on iNav and I've come across some difficulties. Needless to say there isn't a profile one so I set my throttle to a servo and have been controlling it in manual mode that way. However, when I throttle to full and give full aileron deflection left or right my flight controller seems to freeze up for a second or two and I can't figure out why. Any ideas? or perhaps an easier way to program in a nitro plane? Thank you
Are the servo settings in this video the same as the servo settings in inav Version 7.1 or later? I have a Runcam Mini FVP Dvr, which has a pin for the on/off button, namely the H/L pin. so can I use the servo Pin where I use a flight controller, Speedybeey F405 V3. where there are empty pins, namely: Pins M5, M6, M7, M8, TEL, S9, SBUS. If all the pins can be used for the on/off button via the settings in Inav 7.1, is it programmed by setting the servo settings? a little information, my Runcam Mini DVR can only record 5 minutes. and I have used all the buttons on my remote. Can I use the Arming button for switch button settings in the DVR recording mode that I have?
how do you tell if an fc supports servo outputs. I have an a goku F7 that has 6 motor outputs i'm using using it for a quadcopter, m5 and m6 use there own timer so i'm assuming tthese will work for servo outputs
I have used this function a lot but not for the camera I use it to control tilt rotor models
Can you help me please? I have 1S- S6 on my betaflight flight controller but I only got 1S-4S in output mapping. Kindly guide me what to do. Thanks.
If you can use servos for a gimbal could you use gimbals for ultra-fast ultra-smooth servos?
Not really. Or rather you can try, but it will not near to what brushless gimbal offers
Paweł Spychalski I think Fraser might be joking but he means actually using a brushless motor as a servo for an aileron for example.
Unfortunately no brushless motor design is light/compact/strong enough for this (if not using gears that is). Regular servos can be ultrasmooth though, it just requires higher pwm resolution which is currently not standard. Most rc protocols have 1024 steps for full range
@@Felix3301 you are correct. I'm not sure it's so dumb though, a brushless gimbal motor isn't that heavy and they should have far higher reaction times and more accurate positioning than a servo.
Pawel tells us not to use P, how much faster do control surfaces need to actuate before it's useful?
Wait a second, guys... Aren't there brushless servos as well?
Hi, I have set up the pitch and roll gimbal, on my uav, but how can I control the pitch gimbal for panning the camera up and down
Hello friend, how did you manage to place Servo 0 on s6 ???
I have created Servo 0 gets to s1.
Hi pawel, i have a 360deg pan servo but i cant seam to get it past the normal servo throw in the mixer, ive tried difrent servo weights, rates and percentages, it must be possable, hopfully you can shead some light on it for me?
Is it possible to used arduino nano as the converter to read servo moved from inav and translate it to the brushless motor gimbal
Hello Pawel, thank you for this video . Can you help me to use my TX to control pitch of the motor gimbal? I have QAV 500, with Matek f405ctr and motor gimbal with control board, and Jumper T18. Previously the gimbal was connected directly to the receiver, but now I am using ppm with only one wire for flight controller control. All outputs go directly to the flight controller and i guess i need to wire the gimbal to the flight controller to have it pick up the pwm from the flight controller for the gimbal pitch. Any help on how to achieve this would be a great help. Thank you.
Thank you for this video. Please look into making the configuration to be used in a flying stick with x2 routers and 4 servos
can we use a camera gimble which is purchased separately, with the brush less motors and the driver , which outputs pan and tilt through sero pins
yes, but then only pass 2 RC channels to the gimbal, not output of the SERVO GIMBAL function
@@FPVUniversity then if I connect the wires to the FC (matek F722 mini SE) what should I do in Inav
also i have a controller, with the throttle centering, how do i set that up in inav, cuz the quad only arms when the throttle is at the bottom..
Hello, can we connect instead of servos brushless motors, it will work?
Yes
@@FPVUniversity nice to here that, thank you for your video and answer 😀
hi pawel, i followed you tutorial and ty, i have a matek 722se and have added 1 servo, i have installed it on s7 and set everying to servo7 , s7. i have the servo powered of a 5v and i have tried both gimbal pitch and tried using a pot to change the pwm values. i have checked the wiring and have checked the servo with a servo tester and its fine. in i nav i see the channel pwm on both the pot and servo gimbal. i have checked that the servo is getting 5v, i have tested it with battery connected. is there anything i am missing. castab is active
hey nice video but can you please tell how to activate servo gimbal fully auto in mission planner
Would be useful if this explained the Weighting and its relationship between board movement and the servo movement. I'm having to use Weights of 300-500 to keep things level, with almost double on the roll vs the pitch for some reason. Servos directly connected. If this is designed to keep things level then the Weighting doesn't make sense for normal servos.
I need to use 2 motors on a wing to provide yaw and also been giro stabilized yaw with differential thrust, is it possible?
Yes, one of INAV mixer presents is the one with differential thrust with stabilization. Works out of the box
@@FPVUniversity nice, can’t find good literature about it, so it’s stabilized yaw even in manual not stabilized mode?
I want to build an wing without vertical stabilizers and use motors to stabilize yaw just like B2 bomber, but I’d like to fly it in manual and in acro mode, but the yaw must be stabilized all the time!
It is possible to control the Ominnext F7 servo. Unfortunately I don't get an out.
How do you fix the mapping of the servos?
Use INAV7 it allows to change output assignment with Configurator
I think it could be possible to use stepper motor if a driver or esc will be reprogrammed to work like a servo. Of course, to make a full gimball, the motor should have at list the zero position, but if we can assume the camera is leveled at power on, an reprogrammed esc could move the stepper like a servo. What do you think about this? Completely insane?
I've done that servo gimbal with Omnibus F4 v2.1 but for some reason sometimes it works and sometimes it has suuuuper slow reactions, what's more reaction in Inav (Setup page with the moving "brick") is also super slow. It's like 50% time it's ok and 50% slow. Have you got any idea why?
sounds like your gimbal are experiencing some kind of power supply shortage. Have you tried connecting the power wires directly to the ESC 5v output?
Hello I am configuring a drone from cn inav fc omnibus F4 v3 sn managed to do almost everything but I can not configure a 2-axis gimbal on the fc especially the motor pich x make it move via the remote control could you help me?
Andrew Netwon did some cool videos with the iNav Gimbal function earlier in 2019, I would love to try it out but most of the planes I would want it on I already have all the FC servo outputs used up. Maybe someday I'll grab a F765-Wing and use this function. Thanks for sharing!
Use a second FC (maybe 20x20) just for the gimbal?
@@StefanNaewe I have a few omnibusf4pro FCs around and thought about it, but also not something I want bad enough to mess with right now. Good idea though
Wouldn't it be a way to rip a ready buld handheld gimbal like the Zhiyun C1 or similiar you can get for 50€ .
Those usually have a mini joystick and 2 buttons or so which we should be able to control remotely I guess.
The whole logic of stabilsation and so on would come from the Zhiyun C1 ... we would only have to transmit the basic orientation pan / tilt / while the stabilization would be done by the whole Zhiyun logic.
Those gimbals are quite reliable to the noisy servo selfprints.
But I do not know if the Zhiyun board would be happy with PWM input signals from the FC or what the need to be happy.
The only thing I know for sure is that they have become quite cheap especially when you buy one used which are sold here for 30 something €.
thanks
Matek F405-CTR don’t support ?
Cool!
Thanks for all your Help. I'll be a patreon asp. Least I could do. Just letting you know I appreciate the help. Hopefully I don't crash And burn my maiden. Made it Bear tough.. I think?? Never flew a plane. Lol Save and reboot 💪💪👍💪
Hi Paweł, let me ask you a question about gimbal. Is it possible to do such a settings in iNav like you can see in my video?th-cam.com/video/M8XnRzbAibI/w-d-xo.html The pitch serve moves when plane turns to the sides. I use it to have better view when turning. I use EXPO there to move just a little when turn is low and more quicker move when turn is sharper. Also, I have dead zone configured to keep the servo still when plane moves only a bit. Thanks.
Если бы не война, обязательно попробовал бы. Мне такого нехватает
I have analog servo landing gear. What is the best way to to run it on the radix 2?