The jailing of Just Stop oil protesters should put us on 'high alert' says lawyer |.LBC
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- Five Just Stop Oil members - including one of its co-founders - were jailed for between four and five years for conspiring to organise protests that blocked the M25 on Thursday.
They made plans for protestors to climb onto overhead gantries for four days in November 2022.
Francesca Cociani, who represented one of the defendents during the sentencing of this trial, discusses the sentencing with Henry Riley, warning that it should put us at ''high alert' at the 'state of civic rights and freedoms' in the UK.
Roger Hallam, 58, Daniel Shaw, 38, Louise Lancaster, 58, Lucia Whittaker De Abreu, 35, and Cressida Gethin, 22, agreed to cause disruption to traffic by having protesters climb onto gantries over the motorway for four successive days in November 2022.
Hallam - who also co-founded Extinction Rebellion - was sentenced to five years' imprisonment while the other four defendants were each handed four years' imprisonment.
The environmental group have described the sentences as a "obscene perversion of justice".
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It’s not peaceful when people’s lives were put at risk. Cancer patients unable to attend their operation, ambulances , fire engines, food deliveries to local hospitals, people with special needs unable to access medication whilst stuck in traffic. Read the judgement.
Too harsh? Tell that to the family of the man whom lost his life because just stop oil stopped an ambulance rushing the man to hospital.
Not harsh enough more like. Shocking
Wrong
You think that the sentence was too harsh. Before you open your mouth just do a little research. He was still under conditions of a suspended sentence for planning to shut down Heathrow Airport. Do your job.
You dont have the right to break laws, put lives at risk, start anarchy, vandalize and violate or oppress the lives and rights of other people.
Yeah, who do they think they are? MPs?
@@django3422 hahhaha!
Peacefull protest?not from those muppetts.
the sentences are to short , should be a 5 year minimum, secound offence should be 10 years
Not harsh. It’s lenient. People died in ambulances because of their actions. People missed funerals, People with cancer missed doctor’s appointments. They’re despicable
Proof?
Literally in the judge's sentencing remarks which can be found on the UK's "judiciary" website. In the words of Uncle Ruckus "Read #*##*# read!"
@@KaraokeDave Plenty of proof!!! Look it up yourself.
@@ajane2002 so, you don't have any.
Seems fair to me , we all have the right to protest but we don't have the right to disrupt others ,
Its not non-violent. Maybe not directly violent, but it definitely caused physical harm to many many people. The cancer patient especially....
Sentence not long enough
How did it affect you?
@@yt.personal.identification I can now drive on the M25 knowing that the chances of disruption and having being stuck for hours has been reduced for the next 4-5 years.
@@todortodorov6056 So you experienced no difficulties and will still have traffic issues on the M25.
Hopefully, everyone can recover.
@@yt.personal.identification What a terrible logical fallacy you embarked on in this thread. Not very smart, are you?
@@manuelper What are you talking about?
Stop gaslighting.
This person seems rather emotionally invested.
I asked why? They had NOTHING.
You, however, made up things about my post, which are fallacious.
Seems ironic.
Why are you gaslighting?
The judge got it right.
You keep ignoring the courts, and you will eventually get a lengthy sentence. And remember people have died due to these clowns? I hope they are not out for 5 years.
5 years was spot on!
Still no comment on the riots in Leeds and London? 😂 this is the new BBC
It's not the BBC, it's LBC.
@@norcatch Whoosh!
They’re all the same, GB News is just as bad. Propaganda and lies from them all.
How do those jail times compare to the sentences the water systems managers received?
Does they give 5 years also jail to people are responsible for "International IT meltdown"?
Cause they caused so much air traffic disruption?
But look at all the co2 emissions they prevented!
@@RH1812 they barely prevented ANYTHING, and they literally ruined the STONEHENGE. and vandalized many things for just no reason.
@@RH1812
Maybe!!!
If people cancel their vacations and no one took the car for their job, than work online.
That seems difficult...
I LOVE IT! These weirdos need to GO!
Great News, No time for them or Chris Packham!!! I don't feel uncomfortable at all!!!
Sleepwalking into authoritarianism
Sleepwalking into extremist fantasyland, or as I call it, your parent's basement.
Drip
“Authoritarianism”=sentencing people for breaking the law and causing harm to innocent people 😂😂
@@jlewis2890 What do you have to say about arrests of people not protesting and merely voicing opinions about trans and immigration issues? Posting stickers on lamp posts and edgy dog jokes?
Do you even know what authoritarianism means?!
They broke the law and badly affected 1000s of lives. They had every intention of doing exactly that. They should be in jail for longer IMO
It should of been 10 years
What were the prison sentences for the people who stole billions of pounds with PPE contracts?
Yawn!!!!!!!!!
Yachts
@@Towertrips You what?
Are you fine with government overspending?
@@yt.personal.identification oooh you’d have done it so much better wouldn’t you Capt Hindsight ?? Can’t get a job but can manage a global pandemic🤡🤡🤡
Different subject. Stick to the point.
Weird that all the people who constantly talk about free speech are silent on this...
ALL the people?
Probably because they're realizing that constantly complaining about things that don't even remotely relate to them is now punishable.
@@NobodyAsked-xh8cs Is it?
Weird that you think blocking the m25 is free speech...
@@blewis1733 he didn't block it, he was on a zoom call where people organised it. That is speech
Well done to the prosecution, jury and judge. Whatever the cause, individuals cannot be allowed to disrupt society or detriment the lives of others. Perhaps in prison they can learn about democracy and how each person has one vote.
Not sure what your comment about democracy has to do with anything.
Just Stop Oil need to stop and go away they are only going to make things worse, get a grip
Yeah… heaven forbid any protest ever make enough noise to interrupt your day… 🙄
@@aarpoonwaify6694 That's not what I mean, I don't mean that
@@Grrreeeeeeew It is exactly what you mean.
@@Grrreeeeeeew Then say what you mean.
They definitely aren't making anything better.
At last a degree of justice for these extremists.
Blocking a motorway is terrorism, however you try to justify it.
Why is LBC having comments removed. What's happening on TH-cam is out of control. All news channels are seeing it. LBC needs to address it.
Mine just got deleted too
Yep me too
It's not just news channels it the whole platform
My comment about these ppl being the city folk from apocalypto survived. I’ve seen it removed elsewhere.
That’s weird - the amount of comments seems very low for the number of views. Could be LBC? Could be the government? Who knows.
Corporate oligarchy
Infiltrated? They were investigating. That is what investigative journalists do!
Sorry they were not Imprisoned for Protesting, they were Imprisoned for Breaking the new Laws related to blocking Highways
It's a clear message to the people what will happen if they start massive and road-blocking protests. These JSO protesters with their cause have not gained large public support and sympathy. As such, perfect for the establishment to test public reaction and opinion on harsh sentences for non-violent protests involved in road- blocking protests. They were sentenced under a new law to punish protesters for causing public nuisance.
However no one should dismiss road-blocking protests. There are many examples of such well-organized protests across the world, like truck convey protests or just people mass gathered on roads protesting against acts and agenda of their government, which were, in some cases, purely authoritarian.
Living in an authoritarian regime, this was an only way for us to regain our freedom. Road- blocking protests were desperate and needed actions for us. The emergency vehicles could go through, protests were timely announced via social media and other available sources, on when and were they would take place, to be useful to non-protesters to plan their activities and to look for alternatives.
However, arguments of some people in the comment section - how people were late, or missed their exams, doctors' appointments, work meeting, can not be taken serious in times when the actions by governments trumples the rights of many. Chosing between freedom and rights for many and inconvenience for some is and should not be a real choice.
Also, every road-blocking protest is costly. Money can not be ranked first, above our rights and freedom.
How many peaceful road-blocking protests have been held by people over Gaza? Should they be imprisoned? They also caused inconvenience such as missed exams, doctor's appointments, being late for work etc. They were costly for some.
Harshly sentencing the protesters from the unpopular movement as JSO is a message for any protest movement. Whatever the cause for protesting - immigration, freedom of speech, inflation, wars, property rights- if you join and participate at non- violent road-blocking protest, you will find yourself at the mercy of the state whether to imprison you for years.
After exhausting other type of protests, blocking key roads is often the next step to get a broader public attention and to boost the cause by attracting more people to join in and to push a critical pressure on government.
Sentencing these non- violent protesters to 4 and 5 years will have psychological effects on people and for how many this will be a main reason to stay at home in fear of being imprisoned for years without commiting a violent act. Exactly what the messenger wanted.
Qhat was the specific charge?
All affected by these people should sue for damages that would be fair
Its a political statement, so much for “independent judiciary”.
Sentence was wrong, double it
Violent Activist! Well now they can rest in prison! No job no life
Do things properly. Become a politician, create new laws and get them voted in or shut up. Abusing the public to force them to understand your perspective is authoritarian and dangerous.
It stopped them climbing bridges lol worked well
New laws introduced……
Protesters decide to ignore them.
Fecked around and found out.
Oh look, someone who wants to live under an authoritarian regime!
Why did LBC private their other video talking about this?
JSO claims the oil companies make profits at the expense of the people. JSO makes those claims by acting at the expense of the people.
Whether or not it's violent has little to do with how much it impacted people disproportionate to the statement being made, and their ongoing history of doing it.
I don't know how far in their cheek the presenter puts their tongue when he says it makes them feel "uncomfortable", but act like a child, get treated like a child. Children go to their room, adults acting like children go to jail.
5 years is Extremely Excessive, Why Is That?? Where is this leading to??
It's a radical right wing government backed by a judge who seemingly got into law for all the wrong reasons trying to make people be quiet.
they could have done stuff worse than ruining the stone henge.
STOP 🛑 Just stop oil now !
Conspiracy can carry a life sentence!
People are soo short sighted. Poorly educated and ignorant sorry to say. What happens when you want to protest about something? Walking into a draconian state. Honestly wake up people. 🐑
It could be worse. Imagine if they put some stickers on lamp posts. They'd be in some really deep trouble!
You have the right to protest. You don't have the right to block roads!
I'm an environmentalist, but I don't agree with the tactics of Just Stop Oil. But, these prison sentences are bonkers. Way too excessive. Prisons should be for violent people, not peaceful protesters.
They've been using "peaceful protesting" to get away with vandalism and disturbing the peace for 3 years. That's why they got an abnormally large sentence for "peaceful protesting".
did you know what they caused? you were there being blocked? Why these cowards aren't disrupting big moneymakers of the oil industry? because they are getting paid by the oil industry, it is called controlled opposition.
Their plans were domestic terrorism. Hallam is a far left anarchist not an environmentalist- he’s got six knackered diesel cars
Nope it is not too harsh, what's wrong with you, if you had one of your loved ones being held up and did not receive medical help and died you'd think different wouldn't you
You didn’t ask her any tough questions at all lol what was the point in her being on
The judge notes explains why. But don't let the facts get in the way of your BS story...
They were repeat and broke bail conditions. How is it a harsh, this presenter is a tool
Twit
your quick on making videos on this Bs But not on what happened in leeds
Doesn’t suit their narrative
In reality, Hallam will serve no more than 2 years. Does that sound a little more reasonable? Read the sentencing report, it is very illuminating.
Mental.
Slightly?
What form of protest would you be in favour of?
the non-Stonehenge type
@@joso7228So the kind that can be easily ignored. Ah yes, very effective.
@@michaelcolbourn6719 the kind that isnt anarchy
@@ScoopDogg that's what you're not in favour of not what you are. Try again.
What’s the point, people like you are never satisfied anyway
Harehill riots Labour Broadcasting Corporation?
Francesca vergognati: le proteste non giustificano i crimini!
We live in a diesel engine civilisation. Turbo diesel tractors plough the fields, turbo diesel lorries take produce from farms to factories for processing, turbo diesel lorries distribute food and goods to shops, turbo diesel lorries carry all building materials to all building sites (was your house built from materials transported by horses ?), turbo diesel buses transport people etc etc. Without diesel fuel, life as we know it finishes.
You forgot the bit about how most high vis vests are made from polyester, which is an oil derivative :D
don't you need food?
Which puts us in a pretty precarious position because if we keep on using fossil fuels like we have been, life as we know it finishes.
What's your solution?
@@django3422 I studied and graduated in chemistry, environmental science and microbiology and realised the claim you just made is not at all true. Do you wear a parrot costume at Halloween?
@@mark561 Of course you did.
They are the city folk from apocalypto.
It'a almost as bad as getting two years, for having anti immigration stickers on your car...
What? Someone got a two year sentence for merely having anti immigration stickers on their car? And that was all they did?
it all depends on two things
1.) are you pro-equality (do you believe consequences of an action should depend on the political affiliation of a certain person)
2.) your definition of "Peacefulness" (in a personal relationship, a person can be abusive without doing visible physical damage, can we use similar terms when we are dealing with the relationship between two public entities)
depending on what exactly was planned, and the role of the people sentenced as organizers, this act could be one bordering on Terrorism, in which case, the sentences are pretty lenient... for an act of non-violent intimidation - I would say it's on the high side, but not something insane if they are kept in a low-grade or "open" prison...
if the prison they go to is relatively humane... OK, we took 5 years from this persons life, but then, consider the number of people they effected over the 120 hours... OK, each had a few hours of their lives taken away from them, but... there were thousands of them, maybe overall it is way waaay more than the 5 years we are talking about.
Erm...we don't like cancel culture or state oppression of speech...erm..like now.
ive just had my comments removed...nothing really bad even said by me.
100% disagree with JustStopOil but imprisonment is a scary outcome. Huge injustice. We should all be concerned about this.
@@ibexdnb2879 It really isn't when you consider their actions directly put people's lives in danger. What should worry you more are people going to jail for voicing spicy opinions and jokes on social media or stickers on lamp posts that show ONS statistics.
@@Zeyr01 Thanks for your input though mate. Not too often people are civil on here lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought Starmer would have helped them out. You know being the head of the cps one time and keeps reminding people he was every five minutes
Grow up.
Saville! Nuff said
It's just a radical right wing government doing what they do, and a moderate Labour government not wanting to do anything about it. And then it meets a less than clever judge.
Yo did everyone hear about those riots by the far right in Leeds 😮
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