Well done about the disagreement with your sponsor; this is very respectable. It is not easy to handle and it was very professional. This bring some real trust and seriousness to the channel. Software lock is even worse than some hardware gluing. Because you can always use laser machine eventually but no laser will ever break an encryption or hack some access and keep things legitimate enough for repair... The difference of points between Samsung and Apple on ifixit score makes really no sense at all indeed.
Agreed! I read iFixIt’s article and was really hoping Hugh would give some commentary on it, but wasn’t sure since I know he works with them so much. It was so odd to me that they loved the phone so much but barely tested the software portion! Just not a well researched article I suppose.
@@masenkanemakwala The glue is a pain in the ass but at least when you get past it the replacement will just work and not disable itself partially when done. Software locks are easy to solve sure but the only people who can remove the software lock is Apple and they arent going to do that for everyone. An apple software lock might as well be Alcatraz for repair. Meanwhile Samsung has a bit of glue.
to think apple would make third party repair easier in any way or form shows a breathtaking level of naivety...they only do warranty repairs because there are laws that force them to, without which they would rather not do...
@@bazwillrun full agreement here, apple stopped caring about customers when the PR couldn't hurt them anymore. Stopping and congratulating them for every small step will only hurt right to repair.
Think about this while you’re wiping the chapstick off of your face… Apple might actually be pairing stuff to prevent theft. Its hard to sell a screen that’s black listed. It can only be done with software. ALL STOLEN PARTS are black listed with their policy. Did you think about this?
Depends. I always buy one parts when fixing things. So if you buy only one then the 7/10 is justified. You always buy third party then yeah the number doesn’t make sense
Very good video. Completely agree with that Ifixit criticism. In that video about the IPhone 14 they absolutely praised Apple for going more repair friendly, but the still locked components didn't get enough attention in that video. Functionality like Face id is still far far more important than a easy to repair back glass. I like how your standpoint about right to repair and software locking has become even better and better explained from video to video. You describe the issue with your video script very well and differentiated. Thanks for your dedication
@@johnny4498 wrong, consumers don’t care, only the nerds like you and the guy in the video do. If costumers really cared they wouldn’t be CUSTOMERS, they would stop supporting Apple, guess what, 1.2 billion iphone users and counting up, the reality is that the market doesn’t give a crap about right to repair thats
@@RennieAsh The "sane" repair score should be zero - an out-of-warranty fault can make the user go insane, especially with the practical inability to unlock until you spend hours gaining muscle memory for the brightness changer (auto-brightness gets turned off).
I had much the same reaction to ifixits repair score. Kind of ridiculous of them to not mention the software issues that occur when repaired by a 3rd party
@@Mikyate well actually, agree to disagree. It's points off for sure, partial functionality can't be called a full repair, but going from a broken screen to a working screen but just without auto brightness and true tone isn't "unrepairable"
A lot of people with broken devices honestly want most of the functionality and cosmetic issues fixed. I’ve seen it happen even with Apple authorized repairs. Transparency is the key. As long as customers are aware of what they are paying for upfront then at least they can make a choice.
I'm shocked at how low some of the repairability scores for Samsung smartphones are, even if they are a bit more difficult to take apart, the fact that parts can actually be replaced without disabling features is a huge advantage.
Love your honesty in your videos... Do you think that some companies are afraid to critize Apple.. It sure looks like it. They obviously have too much to lose. Its disgraceful.
Some TH-cam creators get free samples to test, but I doubt if he does, especially from Apple. The ones that take free testers are obviously under some pressure if they want to continue getting freebies.
I wonder if ifixit’s score was influenced by external interests, considering that they scored objectively more repair friendly phones lower, not even equal, to the iphone
Could be that the moduarity of this iphone suprised them so much that they were like "woah! This is so easy to repair!" without adding the "...for an iphone". From the looks of it, this phone is better than previous, especially with the back glass.. but with the anti repair softwhere still in place, yeah, it should absolutley not be a 7!
Really agree with the point about the iFixit score. Maybe they considered the Apple Self Service Program into the equation, but that is not available in all countries and even if it was, that doesn't excuse disabling any features.
It should be a 1/10! The software locks take away many features that you PAID for! iPhone 12 and 13 should have a repairability score of -2/10 because the back glass is broken in the process of being removed!
With the rumour about back glass being paired, could this have anything to do with the magsafe accessory NFC functionality? Cant think of much else the back panel is linked to
I couldn't believe ifixit's repairability score either, and posted a comment on their channel saying so. Until Apple stop this anti-repair attitude, I won't be buying any of their devices. Thanks again for another great vid.
I very much agree. It's all just petty software locks. Apple could make things significantly easier than it is, there's no need to disable such things automatically, make it a toggle if something doesn't work, or at the bare minimum give an option to enable it after acknowledging there could possibly be an issue.
@@Mediamarked yea until those little thingies on the side tell the device this ain't your screen. then you gotta custom order your parts individually from apple lmfao.
Appreciate your honest opinion Hugh, despite knowing that the sponsor could get unhappy with it. But you didn't let it get in the way of the truth anyway. Hugh respect!
Respect for calling out a long term sponsor. That is some balls of steel. It is the repairability that keeps me on my iPhone 6S. I drop it very frequently and replace the screen around once a year, costing me around 25 bucks each time and I replace the battery as well. I actually want to get the 14 plus for the screen size, but I'll have to be very careful with it, something I am not very good at. Also, the lightning port is almost a meme. It's ridiculous to buy anything without USB-C.
Hopefully the rumours about Apple dropping the lightning port altogether are true (And based off of what they released recently, they seem to be heading in that direction, the newest iPad model is USB C (even though its still USB 2.0 from what ive read), the apple TV remote has switched to USB C)
@@mrkring1526 i had a 6s, and technically still have it laying around working (no sim). if you manage to keep the battery in good shape and charging port clean that phone will probably out live your grandchildren. the reason i finally moved on was the charging port needing replaced, it was last updated a few months ago too.
I completely agree with the point you made about the score iFixit gave to the iPhone. When components are software locked you can’t do anything, whereas if the phone’s hardware is just difficult to repair or access there’s always a way.
I'm not sure why your videos aren't more popular yet and you don't have more subscribers. I think you're one of the most legit youtubers offering real content.
Great follow-up Hugh! Thank you for covering the firmware questions from the last video. 100% agree that software locks are a worse anti-repair tactic than just using strong glue to hold down components. Modularity means nothing with those software locks in place. 👍
This video is the reason I subscribe to channels like this, offering us the real stuff and not some good lie painted with money. People are liking the name more than the product this day and let me tell you that nothing good comes from that. Great video!
So, I found a video saying that the US models of the iPhone 14 sim reader inside the phone was a filler. It's kind of weird to see something like this since Apple uses every inch on the insides of their phones.
Well, it’s obviously easier and cheaper for Apple to just put a plastic filler on the place where the SIM tray used to be instead of designing a whole new logic board just for US models.
Ridiculous to remove it in the first place, I review phones and as such, I swap my SIM card between devices.... now I can't if I want to carry an iPhone and an android device as I typically do
The fact that you can buy iphone parts from apple and repair yourself is a huge step, and that means no pairing issues. The pairing is a theft deterrent that I fully support.
this is why i like this channel. it seems that everyone got tricked by apple just because they made the back glass removable, but you still see through all that and point out that nothing really changed.
Some countries simply don’t have an official place to repair your iPhone. In Ukraine you’re being offered to send your phone to a closest official service center, which is in Poland I guess. Getting your phone there, repairing it and delivering back can take up to a month.
Myself, I'm happy you were able to get your hands on these iPhones, to show us how they can be torn down and the trials and tribulations you've explored for us. Thank you. This is going to be valuable information and hopefully, Apple will change how the 2nd hand repair happens. Be more conducive to outside (of Apple) vendor repairs.
I am glad to see that the rear isn’t software locked. I do agree that ifixit was a little too generous with their score considering the software locks, but I don’t fully agree with you on how easy it is to work on a Samsung phone. The glue they use is seriously tough, and the models with curved back glass are really difficult to get off without breaking
I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks the way iFixit grades phone’s repairability makes no sense! I think Android phones have pretty much always been better since they have easily replaceable glass backs, less/more consistent screws, and usually no software pairing of components. Still not a fan that many manufacturers make removing the battery so difficult with ridiculously strong glue.
It's long past time for iFixit to start mentioning software locks in their reviews and factoring it into their repairability scores. Nice job continuing to point this out in your videos.
You are absolutely right! Locking you into the original parts, software-wise is a dealbreaker for me. I couldn’t believe how Ifixit gave it such a high score. It’s like changing the tires of your car or the windshield but the minute picture doesn’t let you drive it
I have been watching your videos for years, I am just a guy who fixes his own phones, usually replacing screens (mostly on young daughters phone once or twice a year!). Occasionally replacing batteries. I am on an iPhone 6S Plus, I do not want to go any higher because I know I will find it harder to home repair. I am about to replace the very badly damaged screen that resulted in torn home button cable, so no I have lost the finger print function (I never used TBH, my fingers are always damaged with work) ... since my first home iPhone repairs - 1. The battery glue got larger and and harder to remove 2. The glue around the frame and screen got tougher ... mow needing heat device to remove 3. They started pairing parts ... so you need to purchase a reprogrammer that's more than the cost of a second hand phone 4. They introduced iCloud bricking 5. etc etc etc, we all know the long list I am now thinking of dumping iPhones ... my first computer was an Apple Mac back in the early nineties, I have been a loyal Apple user, even after the switch from system 9 to 10 !! Yes I'm that old ! I am glad Europe has forced Apple to stop redesigning their power ports and consequential, but the fact it takes a federation of nations to force change in the bloated corporation is infuriating.
Let me guess: something to screw up both consumers and the environment while posing as a really concerned company? Oh my god, I would never imagine that!
This is amazing. Thank you so much for breaking this down. Couldn’t agree more with you on the score. I fixed a Samsung s20 ultra front and back this weekend. There isnt much difference in difficulty; hardest part of a Galaxy is ripping the rear glass off to get started. And full functionality post-repair. Apple’s FaceID is hit or miss with older models as I have yet to figure out what I do right when it works
I think you struck a really good balance with the software locking. Here in the US, if a car is in a major incident, that's usually recorded permanently for any second hand buyer to find out about using the VIN number. However, functionality is never lost. It's just useful information for the buyer. Similar functionality on phones would be pretty cool, and useful. So long as it's done right and doesn't lock down functionality.
If I replace my car filter and my car accelerator is locked, this is not repair/replace and definitely not a 7. It should be just 0. Just because nobody is dead or nothing major is not working does not mean it is repairable/replaceable. The repairable point system should not be comparing new Apple to old Apple. As you point out, it should be compared to all phones including those lesser known brand.
You are my hero. I didn't know there are some sleazeballs at apple artificially introduce problems when swapping parts. I am not a phone repair guru, however before watching your videos, I bought bunch of broken iphone 13 off ebay very cheap to combine parts and see if I could build one good working version out of them. However I came across many of issues you highlighted in your videos. I thought I did something stupid and broken things in process of swapping. It was fun yet frustrating experience. But after finding your videos, I feel like I have redeemed myself and maybe I am not as dumb as I thought I was :D
Aside from the software locks Apple imposed on the hardware… I’m truly impressed at how much pride they take with the innards of their products. I love how the “heat spreader” match the color of the each iPhone 14. For them to go through such trouble to make sure the inside is pretty to look at is extraordinary.
Apple: Uses glued back glass (except now), 3 different types of screw, software-locked serialized parts, iFixIt gives score 7/10 Samsung: Uses soft glue for back glass, no part lockdowns, one type of screw, still got 4/10 just because of glued battery instead of pull tabs...
Whilst I appreciate your hard work and frankness I do have an alternative outlook on locking parts with software incompatibility. It deters folks from stealing phones for parts. Not saying this is the best way to do it, but I look forward to possible alternatives that allow you to fix your phone for cheaper whilst still deterring thieves from stealing for phone for parts.
We have user ids and passwords for everything. Why not a notification e-mail that says "This you doing this?" Yeah. "OK, sync approved". If there was a way to prevent e-mails and notifications to the phone until then. Go on a PC and say "Yeah, it's me".
Hey Hugh, do you have any plans to review the Sony Xperia phones? I think you'll be delighted to know that they have headphone jacks and microSD card slots. Just not sure about their repairability since they're a niche product.
@@HughJeffreys Ah that sucks. But you might be able to get them shipped in from Hong Kong. Here in Canada we have a retailer (mi4canada) that ships them in from HK.
I love you videos Hugh and I had a suggestion. Could you please look into this new issue that some people are having with older phones such as the iphone x, xr, and 11 after updating to ios 16 with an aftermarket screen installed. Some people are having phantom ghost touch issues or a completely black screen after updating if they had a 3rd party screen installed in their phone. Was wanting to know if this is a real issue. VCC Board Repairs mentioned it on youtube.
My guess is that it uses a Private and Public key pair to synchronize the Apple parts. That way, one cannot swap parts without first authorizing it with Apple
At least the removal of the front screen and rear glass panel has been made easier... followed by unscrewing a few thousand screws later, and you can eventually take it almost completely apart 🤣 However it's disappointing that Apple continue to place this 'software pairing lock/code' to components, preventing you from simply replacing the part you need to easily. If Apple would allow you to 'recode' the part/s (new or 2nd hand), and pair it to your iPhone online via the repair program, then happy days, but until this happens, I'd be giving it a repair rating of 4/10, and only because of the ease of replacing the screen and back, otherwise it would have been lower. Edit: Fixed some dodgy grammar! 😂
I had a iPhone 6 for yonks, battery changed, lots of good use lens and playlists. But it's losing updates on programs-too old like me. So I update after a lot of thought to a iPhone12 Pro. Really getting into it now and I've bought a Moment camera case and lenses for it, so great. But I have been getting absolutely barraged by Apple, and Vodaphone to upgrade "with great savings!" for an iPhone 14 in some shape or form. I've just settled into my new phone, I had heard rumours about their locking out 3rd party repair even more, and even though I like the Apple setup and have always had them, I have a undercurrent of resentment towards them. They do not give you a phone like Samsung do. And after seeing this... I'm glad I do not have an iPhone 14. Maybe now I might just stop flogging a dead horse and change to Android when this baby wears out.
Totally agree with you. I love ifixit but gives awful scores to most Androids and yeah most of them the backglass is glued but what else will they do ? Screws wouldn't be as esthetic. Also as you say most of them uses normal Philips screws same size and you can buy good quality or original parts from different reputable web pages at a good price. Apple in the other hand is crazy with the different screws and even if you get the part software pairing is a problem. And if you want to get the original part from Apple you have to pay them ridiculous prices.
I wonder if each piece is just linked to the phone to prevent theft of another phone so you don’t just steal phones to harvest parts. Like if other parts were put in that aren’t already linked to a phone they’d work. It just seems weird to use 2 phones to switch parts. I’d like to see parts not already a part of another phone put in to see if it works.
You are truly gifted in your repair sequences and are a very important resource here on youtube. I appreciate what you do and your comments are always spot on. While I have selected Mac products, I don't consider myself as a koolaid drinker since I buy vintage Macs which were great in their era. I generally loathe Apple products because they are changed in ways that don't improve them. I would consider a Macbook Air M1 because that is a very good product though I will have to get one that is maxed out because the base model is feeble.
well if you swap just the back glass that would be the best way to find out if trutone and face id get messed with hard to tell when all parts are exchanged.
Hey Hugh, can you do a video where you swap the back glass to assess the repairability of that? I think many people are curious to see if it is serial locked or not. Thanks, your videos are awesome.
swapping the logic board gives the same effect of swapping the back glass, as the software detecting changes in hardware is relative to the logic board used. This video shows that no software locks exist when swapping the back panel.
Great video as always. I enjoyed the part where you disagreed with your sponsor and explained why. Anyone watching would know but way cool that you called them out.
It goes to show the Phrase "Apples most repairable Phone in years" doesnt really mean anything when there are still softwarelocks in place preventing you from really repairing the device yourself. Anyway awesome Job Man, i love your honesty.
I love Apple software locks on hardware. I feel a lot more safe. Here me out, criminals aren’t inclined to rob them from people to then sell them for parts as they become paperweight with these locks. :)
You are a wise man Hugh. But wise and sane people are not in demand or appreciated. We live in an insane world. Your salient points are much welcomed by me. Apple is a company I WOULD NEVER BUY FROM. Most people are into flash and not substance.
The software lock which apple makes, should be from the user side, so if the phone gets stolen some day, it is unusable for the other person, but when u want to get your phone repaired, you can unlock the phone's hardware to software lock and repair it yourself.
Sounds like I fix it went the direction of consumer reports. We're consumer reports was found to be in cahoots with Asian manufacturers of cars and giving them Superior ratings to domestic models. So the easiest thing to do is look at I6 the scores on Apple and Samsung and flip them.
Hello Hugh, I’m a new subscriber I’m interested in all your repairs of Apple Products I’m quite shocked at what Apple is doing to prevent 3rd party repairs although Microsoft have been doing similar things with windows for a few years now you may purchase windows 10 or 11 but Microsoft still owns it and constantly interrupts you with updates and in another year or so windows 10 will no longer be supported then we start all the hassles with windows 11
you can also unplug your ethernet cable from the pc when you install windows. they'll tell you you need internet to complete the process but you really dont. im not sure about how it all ties together, all i know is they can't force update your pc if you dont have internet when installing windows. EDIT: i learned this tip from JayzTwoCents when i built my first pc.
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I kinda like how it's not repairable in a way since it somewhat kills the market for stolen phones that are used for parts. The will give people less incentive to steal them.
That was never a logical argument. Do you think poor thieves watch repair videos all day long or they just snatch something shiny by a popular company?
@@Gadgets20 Which means that they will get less money for it and it will make them steal even more phones to make up for the amount they want. 😉 At least that's what I've witnessed in the companies I've worked for. Thieves are incredibly dumb people. 😂
I love how they changed the inside now its even easier to repair screen and back screen without issues don't know why they didn't do that last year or the year before.
Let me summarize: You have to heat up a glued display to remove it, open the phone from both sides, remove several parts to access others, receive an anti repair message after replacing the battery, display or camera AND lose functionality. And you still rate it 7/10 for repairability.
They don't actually use a vibration motor, since iphone 7, taptic engine is a linear actuator, and they also use sounds in software as part of haptics.
Hi Hugh just upped the amount of RAM in my laptop and I can tell you that I used plastic credit cards, plastic spudgers etc absolutely wrecked the credit card. But what is the double sided tap you use? Also the screws had lock-tight on them should I put fresh lock-tight ?
Once the parts become available, could you please try installing a dual sim reader to see if dual physical sim just works? (Like it did in iPhone 12 dual sim conversion)
I'm from Brazil wich is a massive country with 212 million people and ONLY 2 official Apple Stores. Taking the iPhone to one of them to repair is out of question. This Apple tactic of locking parts by software doesn't work here since we have to repair it by 3rd party shops. Good video as always Hugh!
When I watched the IFixIt video when it came out, I was thinking well wait a moment....even tho you can tear down the phone, if you put different parts in it your still not going to have a proper working phone. Tear down is one thing. But replacing the parts is a whole other issue that IFixIt didn't even cover. Good call out Hugh. That's why your vids make the most sense to trust.
i agree about the ifixit iphone 14 score. i was confused when they released that score because nothing really changed. you still have to have apple's permission to replace parts yourself.
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Well done about the disagreement with your sponsor; this is very respectable. It is not easy to handle and it was very professional. This bring some real trust and seriousness to the channel. Software lock is even worse than some hardware gluing. Because you can always use laser machine eventually but no laser will ever break an encryption or hack some access and keep things legitimate enough for repair... The difference of points between Samsung and Apple on ifixit score makes really no sense at all indeed.
Agreed! I read iFixIt’s article and was really hoping Hugh would give some commentary on it, but wasn’t sure since I know he works with them so much. It was so odd to me that they loved the phone so much but barely tested the software portion! Just not a well researched article I suppose.
They have tools to reprogram parts. But like a laser, it's still a specialize tool. Still anti- right to repair though.
Software lock can be easily solved with a software update but you can’t change the glue Samsung used in their phones with a software update.
@@masenkanemakwala The glue is a pain in the ass but at least when you get past it the replacement will just work and not disable itself partially when done. Software locks are easy to solve sure but the only people who can remove the software lock is Apple and they arent going to do that for everyone. An apple software lock might as well be Alcatraz for repair. Meanwhile Samsung has a bit of glue.
Yeah, Samsung devices are easy to repair.
Finally someone who's pointing out that apple didn't actually fix anything. Thank you for your hard work, I always love your teardowns and tests.
They fixed EVERYTHING
@@dinervc9582
Cope
they made so much progress so far, 7 out of 10 is great!
to think apple would make third party repair easier in any way or form shows a breathtaking level of naivety...they only do warranty repairs because there are laws that force them to, without which they would rather not do...
@@bazwillrun full agreement here, apple stopped caring about customers when the PR couldn't hurt them anymore. Stopping and congratulating them for every small step will only hurt right to repair.
I really appreciate your honest opinions on every repair and also the scores from the partner company.Keep up.
Think about this while you’re wiping the chapstick off of your face… Apple might actually be pairing stuff to prevent theft. Its hard to sell a screen that’s black listed. It can only be done with software. ALL STOLEN PARTS are black listed with their policy. Did you think about this?
Depends. I always buy one parts when fixing things. So if you buy only one then the 7/10 is justified. You always buy third party then yeah the number doesn’t make sense
Very good video. Completely agree with that Ifixit criticism. In that video about the IPhone 14 they absolutely praised Apple for going more repair friendly, but the still locked components didn't get enough attention in that video. Functionality like Face id is still far far more important than a easy to repair back glass.
I like how your standpoint about right to repair and software locking has become even better and better explained from video to video. You describe the issue with your video script very well and differentiated.
Thanks for your dedication
Who cares
@@DashzRight The millions and millions and millions of customers my naiv friend :)
@@johnny4498 wrong, consumers don’t care, only the nerds like you and the guy in the video do. If costumers really cared they wouldn’t be CUSTOMERS, they would stop supporting Apple, guess what, 1.2 billion iphone users and counting up, the reality is that the market doesn’t give a crap about right to repair thats
@@DashzRight 🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@DashzRight anyone with a brain and some morals really
Their repairability score should be zero until until the part pairing thing is gone
Who cares
usually people who need repairs
It can't be 0 while there are parts that can be replaced without issue.
@@RennieAsh The "sane" repair score should be zero - an out-of-warranty fault can make the user go insane, especially with the practical inability to unlock until you spend hours gaining muscle memory for the brightness changer (auto-brightness gets turned off).
@@DashzRight Anyone with half of a brain.
I had much the same reaction to ifixits repair score. Kind of ridiculous of them to not mention the software issues that occur when repaired by a 3rd party
why would they care when all they have to worry about is being able to sell you a battery or a screen and it technically works lol
Same here. I was like "uh, what? the software pairing automatically makes it unrepairable."
Same here
@@Mikyate well actually, agree to disagree. It's points off for sure, partial functionality can't be called a full repair, but going from a broken screen to a working screen but just without auto brightness and true tone isn't "unrepairable"
A lot of people with broken devices honestly want most of the functionality and cosmetic issues fixed.
I’ve seen it happen even with Apple authorized repairs.
Transparency is the key.
As long as customers are aware of what they are paying for upfront then at least they can make a choice.
I'm shocked at how low some of the repairability scores for Samsung smartphones are, even if they are a bit more difficult to take apart, the fact that parts can actually be replaced without disabling features is a huge advantage.
i swear they are paid by apple to give them better score
Love your honesty in your videos... Do you think that some companies are afraid to critize Apple.. It sure looks like it. They obviously have too much to lose. Its disgraceful.
Totally agree with you…. Maybe some $$$ change hands for scores too 🤔
Why anyone buys apple products is beyond me
Some TH-cam creators get free samples to test, but I doubt if he does, especially from Apple. The ones that take free testers are obviously under some pressure if they want to continue getting freebies.
@@robinsattahip2376 yup, amazing what money will do 💰😉
@@robinsattahip2376 like marques right? Apple shill.
Hugh!!! The legend that keeps on giving. Thank you for defending rights to repair!
I wonder if ifixit’s score was influenced by external interests, considering that they scored objectively more repair friendly phones lower, not even equal, to the iphone
as long as they rate apple phones more than a 1 they are clearly 100% corupt. Iphone just cant be repaired, not even by apple.
Yep, I wouldn't be surprised if they got backhanders from crapple.
Damn shills.
@@shanepatrick641 "backhanders" lmao, i was more thinking bribes but that works too
Could be that the moduarity of this iphone suprised them so much that they were like "woah! This is so easy to repair!" without adding the "...for an iphone". From the looks of it, this phone is better than previous, especially with the back glass.. but with the anti repair softwhere still in place, yeah, it should absolutley not be a 7!
@@Derpingmuffin >without adding<
that could be the case, they accidentally compared the 14 against other iphones instead of general repairability
Really agree with the point about the iFixit score. Maybe they considered the Apple Self Service Program into the equation, but that is not available in all countries and even if it was, that doesn't excuse disabling any features.
It should be a 1/10! The software locks take away many features that you PAID for! iPhone 12 and 13 should have a repairability score of -2/10 because the back glass is broken in the process of being removed!
With the rumour about back glass being paired, could this have anything to do with the magsafe accessory NFC functionality? Cant think of much else the back panel is linked to
wireless charging
@@sujitprasadjena that is magsafe
I couldn't believe ifixit's repairability score either, and posted a comment on their channel saying so. Until Apple stop this anti-repair attitude, I won't be buying any of their devices. Thanks again for another great vid.
Samsung All day fuck apple
I very much agree. It's all just petty software locks. Apple could make things significantly easier than it is, there's no need to disable such things automatically, make it a toggle if something doesn't work, or at the bare minimum give an option to enable it after acknowledging there could possibly be an issue.
Modularity means nothing if the part you swap doesn't work.
If your screen is broken, and you can easily put a new broken screen onto it, the swap itself worked, no?
@@Mediamarked yea until those little thingies on the side tell the device this ain't your screen. then you gotta custom order your parts individually from apple lmfao.
Appreciate your honest opinion Hugh, despite knowing that the sponsor could get unhappy with it. But you didn't let it get in the way of the truth anyway. Hugh respect!
Respect for calling out a long term sponsor. That is some balls of steel. It is the repairability that keeps me on my iPhone 6S. I drop it very frequently and replace the screen around once a year, costing me around 25 bucks each time and I replace the battery as well.
I actually want to get the 14 plus for the screen size, but I'll have to be very careful with it, something I am not very good at. Also, the lightning port is almost a meme. It's ridiculous to buy anything without USB-C.
Me Too, I'm still on the 6S, and will be for a few years more.
Joking right? No more software updates and an old axe of a phone
Hopefully the rumours about Apple dropping the lightning port altogether are true
(And based off of what they released recently, they seem to be heading in that direction, the newest iPad model is USB C (even though its still USB 2.0 from what ive read), the apple TV remote has switched to USB C)
@@mrkring1526 iOS 15.7.1 October 27, 2022 - longest supported iPhone
@@mrkring1526 i had a 6s, and technically still have it laying around working (no sim). if you manage to keep the battery in good shape and charging port clean that phone will probably out live your grandchildren. the reason i finally moved on was the charging port needing replaced, it was last updated a few months ago too.
You sir deserves more subscribers than any repairing channel! Thanks for the hard work!
I completely agree with the point you made about the score iFixit gave to the iPhone. When components are software locked you can’t do anything, whereas if the phone’s hardware is just difficult to repair or access there’s always a way.
11:27 yes!
Hugh your honesty is an absolute credit to you. Brilliant video as always.
I'm not sure why your videos aren't more popular yet and you don't have more subscribers. I think you're one of the most legit youtubers offering real content.
Great follow-up Hugh! Thank you for covering the firmware questions from the last video. 100% agree that software locks are a worse anti-repair tactic than just using strong glue to hold down components. Modularity means nothing with those software locks in place. 👍
Yes because allowing someone to bypass security by removing logic board is a good thing.
Man this videos should be seen by all the judges on this planet!!
Thanks bro, you are one of the most honest TH-camrs
Well when ever I am going to buy a new phone am will just check wat u have to say about it first 🥇
This video is the reason I subscribe to channels like this, offering us the real stuff and not some good lie painted with money. People are liking the name more than the product this day and let me tell you that nothing good comes from that. Great video!
So, I found a video saying that the US models of the iPhone 14 sim reader inside the phone was a filler. It's kind of weird to see something like this since Apple uses every inch on the insides of their phones.
Well, it’s obviously easier and cheaper for Apple to just put a plastic filler on the place where the SIM tray used to be instead of designing a whole new logic board just for US models.
Ridiculous to remove it in the first place, I review phones and as such, I swap my SIM card between devices.... now I can't if I want to carry an iPhone and an android device as I typically do
They dont want the controversy of the US models being better than the international models
remember iphone 7? they removed the headphone jack but inside there's just plastic filler.
@@namyr2224 afterwards, they decided to replace the plastic filler with a speaker.
The fact that you can buy iphone parts from apple and repair yourself is a huge step, and that means no pairing issues. The pairing is a theft deterrent that I fully support.
That's still a very important step in the right direction
We just gotta keep pushing them to do it
Thank you Hugh,
I hope you still get to tinker with old cars and experience the driving joy of a smooth double-clutch manoeuvre.
this is why i like this channel. it seems that everyone got tricked by apple just because they made the back glass removable, but you still see through all that and point out that nothing really changed.
Some countries simply don’t have an official place to repair your iPhone. In Ukraine you’re being offered to send your phone to a closest official service center, which is in Poland I guess. Getting your phone there, repairing it and delivering back can take up to a month.
Myself, I'm happy you were able to get your hands on these iPhones, to show us how they can be torn down and the trials and tribulations you've explored for us.
Thank you. This is going to be valuable information and hopefully, Apple will change how the 2nd hand repair happens. Be more conducive to outside (of Apple) vendor repairs.
I am glad to see that the rear isn’t software locked.
I do agree that ifixit was a little too generous with their score considering the software locks, but I don’t fully agree with you on how easy it is to work on a Samsung phone. The glue they use is seriously tough, and the models with curved back glass are really difficult to get off without breaking
I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks the way iFixit grades phone’s repairability makes no sense! I think Android phones have pretty much always been better since they have easily replaceable glass backs, less/more consistent screws, and usually no software pairing of components. Still not a fan that many manufacturers make removing the battery so difficult with ridiculously strong glue.
It's long past time for iFixit to start mentioning software locks in their reviews and factoring it into their repairability scores. Nice job continuing to point this out in your videos.
The screen repair seems easy besides the software lock. Hope parts will be easily available. big win in terms of the back glass
Nope
Lol. How can it be easy when it’s paired to the logic board and you have to go through so much effort to fix that software lock.
@@peterthepanda i commented before watching that part. i'll edit it
You should also check if reverse wireless charging works with magsafe battery pack (if might be disabled)
You are absolutely right! Locking you into the original parts, software-wise is a dealbreaker for me. I couldn’t believe how Ifixit gave it such a high score. It’s like changing the tires of your car or the windshield but the minute picture doesn’t let you drive it
I have been watching your videos for years, I am just a guy who fixes his own phones, usually replacing screens (mostly on young daughters phone once or twice a year!). Occasionally replacing batteries. I am on an iPhone 6S Plus, I do not want to go any higher because I know I will find it harder to home repair. I am about to replace the very badly damaged screen that resulted in torn home button cable, so no I have lost the finger print function (I never used TBH, my fingers are always damaged with work) ... since my first home iPhone repairs -
1. The battery glue got larger and and harder to remove
2. The glue around the frame and screen got tougher ... mow needing heat device to remove
3. They started pairing parts ... so you need to purchase a reprogrammer that's more than the cost of a second hand phone
4. They introduced iCloud bricking
5. etc etc etc, we all know the long list
I am now thinking of dumping iPhones ... my first computer was an Apple Mac back in the early nineties, I have been a loyal Apple user, even after the switch from system 9 to 10 !! Yes I'm that old ! I am glad Europe has forced Apple to stop redesigning their power ports and consequential, but the fact it takes a federation of nations to force change in the bloated corporation is infuriating.
Thank you for continuing to help the Right to Repair war against Apple. I look forward to your videos following every phone launch.
FOLKS THIS CHANNEL IS ALWAYS INFORMATIVE AND THE WORK QUALITY IS SUPERIOR I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS CHANNEL
Let me guess: something to screw up both consumers and the environment while posing as a really concerned company? Oh my god, I would never imagine that!
i love that you call out ifix it, hopefully they do something about it.
This is amazing. Thank you so much for breaking this down. Couldn’t agree more with you on the score. I fixed a Samsung s20 ultra front and back this weekend. There isnt much difference in difficulty; hardest part of a Galaxy is ripping the rear glass off to get started. And full functionality post-repair. Apple’s FaceID is hit or miss with older models as I have yet to figure out what I do right when it works
I think you struck a really good balance with the software locking. Here in the US, if a car is in a major incident, that's usually recorded permanently for any second hand buyer to find out about using the VIN number. However, functionality is never lost. It's just useful information for the buyer. Similar functionality on phones would be pretty cool, and useful. So long as it's done right and doesn't lock down functionality.
If I replace my car filter and my car accelerator is locked, this is not repair/replace and definitely not a 7. It should be just 0.
Just because nobody is dead or nothing major is not working does not mean it is repairable/replaceable.
The repairable point system should not be comparing new Apple to old Apple. As you point out, it should be compared to all phones including those lesser known brand.
You are my hero. I didn't know there are some sleazeballs at apple artificially introduce problems when swapping parts. I am not a phone repair guru, however before watching your videos, I bought bunch of broken iphone 13 off ebay very cheap to combine parts and see if I could build one good working version out of them. However I came across many of issues you highlighted in your videos. I thought I did something stupid and broken things in process of swapping. It was fun yet frustrating experience. But after finding your videos, I feel like I have redeemed myself and maybe I am not as dumb as I thought I was :D
Aside from the software locks Apple imposed on the hardware… I’m truly impressed at how much pride they take with the innards of their products.
I love how the “heat spreader” match the color of the each iPhone 14. For them to go through such trouble to make sure the inside is pretty to look at is extraordinary.
What arr you talking about? The chassis? If so thats all anodised there is no “extra” step is just how the painting of these parts works.
Agreed, Apple might hate DIY fixers but the inside of their products are gorgeous.
@@DashzRight the point is how Apple goes through the trouble of making their products beautiful inside & out.
@@MrSamPhoenix Sony's better, great internals and easy to repair.
This is a WILDLY different design than any other phone they have done before. I like it.
It's a step in the right direction for sure, they just need to take a few more leaps - mainly the software lock.
Apple: Uses glued back glass (except now), 3 different types of screw, software-locked serialized parts, iFixIt gives score 7/10
Samsung: Uses soft glue for back glass, no part lockdowns, one type of screw, still got 4/10 just because of glued battery instead of pull tabs...
Whilst I appreciate your hard work and frankness I do have an alternative outlook on locking parts with software incompatibility. It deters folks from stealing phones for parts. Not saying this is the best way to do it, but I look forward to possible alternatives that allow you to fix your phone for cheaper whilst still deterring thieves from stealing for phone for parts.
We have user ids and passwords for everything. Why not a notification e-mail that says "This you doing this?" Yeah. "OK, sync approved". If there was a way to prevent e-mails and notifications to the phone until then. Go on a PC and say "Yeah, it's me".
What? Are you high? If someone steals a phone they will sell the entire thing not just parts, your argument is dumb
Thank you for doing this one. Now I know that if a customer comes to me with one of these, I will just tell them to take it to Apple.
Louis Rossman sent me here. I am noe a subscriber. Thank you for your content and expertise.
Rossman squad here.
Hey Hugh, do you have any plans to review the Sony Xperia phones? I think you'll be delighted to know that they have headphone jacks and microSD card slots. Just not sure about their repairability since they're a niche product.
They don't sell them in Australia. Otherwise I would of been doing teardowns on them.
@@HughJeffreys Ah that sucks. But you might be able to get them shipped in from Hong Kong. Here in Canada we have a retailer (mi4canada) that ships them in from HK.
Good to see the back glass isnt paired but the software locks still kill almost any internal progress.
I love you videos Hugh and I had a suggestion. Could you please look into this new issue that some people are having with older phones such as the iphone x, xr, and 11 after updating to ios 16 with an aftermarket screen installed. Some people are having phantom ghost touch issues or a completely black screen after updating if they had a 3rd party screen installed in their phone. Was wanting to know if this is a real issue. VCC Board Repairs mentioned it on youtube.
Reading the IOS 16.0.2 update notes it seems the issue has been fixed.
I forgot to mention there were a few posts I saw on Apple support forums about this issue that appear to have been removed.
@@HughJeffreys Thank you for responding. According to VCC Board Repairs even after updating to 16.0.2 or 16.1 the issue still persists.
@@HughJeffreys Hello hugh
is the adhesive for the iphone 14 now available ?
I was going through your store so wanted to ask.
Thank you
My guess is that it uses a Private and Public key pair to synchronize the Apple parts. That way, one cannot swap parts without first authorizing it with Apple
At least the removal of the front screen and rear glass panel has been made easier... followed by unscrewing a few thousand screws later, and you can eventually take it almost completely apart 🤣
However it's disappointing that Apple continue to place this 'software pairing lock/code' to components, preventing you from simply replacing the part you need to easily. If Apple would allow you to 'recode' the part/s (new or 2nd hand), and pair it to your iPhone online via the repair program, then happy days, but until this happens, I'd be giving it a repair rating of 4/10, and only because of the ease of replacing the screen and back, otherwise it would have been lower.
Edit: Fixed some dodgy grammar! 😂
They are very easy, if you would just go to an authorized repair center for genuine parts…
@@edwardkim2416 here's a better way: boycott apple and get for yourself an android phone with good specs.
@@HalfLife3onSteamPLZ as a former android user, ill pass, ill consider it if i ever be broke
I had a iPhone 6 for yonks, battery changed, lots of good use lens and playlists.
But it's losing updates on programs-too old like me.
So I update after a lot of thought to a iPhone12 Pro. Really getting into it now and I've bought a Moment camera case and lenses for it, so great.
But I have been getting absolutely barraged by Apple, and Vodaphone to upgrade "with great savings!" for an iPhone 14 in some shape or form.
I've just settled into my new phone, I had heard rumours about their locking out 3rd party repair even more, and even though I like the Apple setup and have always had them, I have a undercurrent of resentment towards them.
They do not give you a phone like Samsung do.
And after seeing this... I'm glad I do not have an iPhone 14.
Maybe now I might just stop flogging a dead horse and change to Android when this baby wears out.
I'd rather it a 3. Disappointed in the ifixit rating. Will pass on this gen iPhone. No significant improvements anyway.
Nice teardown!
Very impressed you dont have to remove everything to replace rear glass
Totally agree with you. I love ifixit but gives awful scores to most Androids and yeah most of them the backglass is glued but what else will they do ? Screws wouldn't be as esthetic. Also as you say most of them uses normal Philips screws same size and you can buy good quality or original parts from different reputable web pages at a good price. Apple in the other hand is crazy with the different screws and even if you get the part software pairing is a problem. And if you want to get the original part from Apple you have to pay them ridiculous prices.
I wonder if each piece is just linked to the phone to prevent theft of another phone so you don’t just steal phones to harvest parts. Like if other parts were put in that aren’t already linked to a phone they’d work. It just seems weird to use 2 phones to switch parts. I’d like to see parts not already a part of another phone put in to see if it works.
I think you might be on to something here.
You are truly gifted in your repair sequences and are a very important resource here on youtube. I appreciate what you do and your comments are always spot on. While I have selected Mac products, I don't consider myself as a koolaid drinker since I buy vintage Macs which were great in their era. I generally loathe Apple products because they are changed in ways that don't improve them. I would consider a Macbook Air M1 because that is a very good product though I will have to get one that is maxed out because the base model is feeble.
well if you swap just the back glass that would be the best way to find out if trutone and face id get messed with hard to tell when all parts are exchanged.
Hey Hugh, can you do a video where you swap the back glass to assess the repairability of that? I think many people are curious to see if it is serial locked or not. Thanks, your videos are awesome.
swapping the logic board gives the same effect of swapping the back glass, as the software detecting changes in hardware is relative to the logic board used. This video shows that no software locks exist when swapping the back panel.
@@jonahjlee Oh, okay, I didn't think about that. Thanks.
@@jonahjlee No software locks YET. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple soon pairs the back glass to the logic board.
@@peterthepanda Fingers crossed that they don't.
Great video as always. I enjoyed the part where you disagreed with your sponsor and explained why. Anyone watching would know but way cool that you called them out.
Important air message
Warning: air inside this iPhone no longer genuine
It goes to show the Phrase "Apples most repairable Phone in years" doesnt really mean anything when there are still softwarelocks in place preventing you from really repairing the device yourself.
Anyway awesome Job Man, i love your honesty.
I love Apple software locks on hardware. I feel a lot more safe. Here me out, criminals aren’t inclined to rob them from people to then sell them for parts as they become paperweight with these locks. :)
Thank for the vision inside Sir. More power!
You are a wise man Hugh. But wise and sane people are not in demand or appreciated. We live in an insane world. Your salient points are much welcomed by me. Apple is a company I WOULD NEVER BUY FROM. Most people are into flash and not substance.
Love your teardown videos and I’m eager to see teardown for 15
The software lock which apple makes, should be from the user side, so if the phone gets stolen some day, it is unusable for the other person, but when u want to get your phone repaired, you can unlock the phone's hardware to software lock and repair it yourself.
Sounds like I fix it went the direction of consumer reports.
We're consumer reports was found to be in cahoots with Asian manufacturers of cars and giving them Superior ratings to domestic models.
So the easiest thing to do is look at I6 the scores on Apple and Samsung and flip them.
That iphone is more expensive than brand new motorcycle😂
yeah, one that was dunked in water and smashed with another motercycle.
You mean bicycle…
At least it wouldn't try and stop you from fixing it yourself :)
@@HughJeffreys some probably do 💀
Maybe the rear glass swap affects things like NFC/Apple Pay?
I checked Apple pay this morning. Was able to add a card. However couldn't test actually paying with it.
Hello Hugh, I’m a new subscriber I’m interested in all your repairs of Apple Products I’m quite shocked at what Apple is doing to prevent 3rd party repairs although Microsoft have been doing similar things with windows for a few years now you may purchase windows 10 or 11 but Microsoft still owns it and constantly interrupts you with updates and in another year or so windows 10 will no longer be supported then we start all the hassles with windows 11
you can delete windows and install linux or any other os in a windows pc, but its very complicated to do that with iphones
you can also unplug your ethernet cable from the pc when you install windows. they'll tell you you need internet to complete the process but you really dont. im not sure about how it all ties together, all i know is they can't force update your pc if you dont have internet when installing windows. EDIT: i learned this tip from JayzTwoCents when i built my first pc.
New sick and minimalist intro, spotted! Very nice detailed video again, Hugh!
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I kinda like how it's not repairable in a way since it somewhat kills the market for stolen phones that are used for parts. The will give people less incentive to steal them.
That was never a logical argument. Do you think poor thieves watch repair videos all day long or they just snatch something shiny by a popular company?
@@em0_tion They snatch it and sell it to someone who does watch repair videos all day.
@@Gadgets20 Which means that they will get less money for it and it will make them steal even more phones to make up for the amount they want. 😉 At least that's what I've witnessed in the companies I've worked for. Thieves are incredibly dumb people. 😂
I love how they changed the inside now its even easier to repair screen and back screen without issues don't know why they didn't do that last year or the year before.
Unknown part “bottom screws changed”
video quality is too good like his content . and his voice is cherry on the top
Damn Apple Corpos.......
Wow that’s CRAZY! The greediness is insane
Liked for the head spinning on the face ID setup.
I wish more content creators are as integral as you. Your disagreement to a sponsor is what content creators must have in their works.
Let me summarize: You have to heat up a glued display to remove it, open the phone from both sides, remove several parts to access others, receive an anti repair message after replacing the battery, display or camera AND lose functionality. And you still rate it 7/10 for repairability.
Those pentalobe screws are just so iconic!
Thank for video brother👍
They don't actually use a vibration motor, since iphone 7, taptic engine is a linear actuator, and they also use sounds in software as part of haptics.
Hi Hugh just upped the amount of RAM in my laptop and I can tell you that I used plastic credit cards, plastic spudgers etc absolutely wrecked the credit card.
But what is the double sided tap you use?
Also the screws had lock-tight on them should I put fresh lock-tight ?
Should always get a less than 6 failure rating, if they're actively preventing you from fixing it.
Once the parts become available, could you please try installing a dual sim reader to see if dual physical sim just works? (Like it did in iPhone 12 dual sim conversion)
Removeable Back glass.
What a *HUGE* improvement 😅
I really love your repair assemnent I am watching you since 2019,and you are awesome,love you bro 💯
I'm from Brazil wich is a massive country with 212 million people and ONLY 2 official Apple Stores. Taking the iPhone to one of them to repair is out of question. This Apple tactic of locking parts by software doesn't work here since we have to repair it by 3rd party shops. Good video as always Hugh!
When I watched the IFixIt video when it came out, I was thinking well wait a moment....even tho you can tear down the phone, if you put different parts in it your still not going to have a proper working phone. Tear down is one thing. But replacing the parts is a whole other issue that IFixIt didn't even cover. Good call out Hugh. That's why your vids make the most sense to trust.
i agree about the ifixit iphone 14 score. i was confused when they released that score because nothing really changed. you still have to have apple's permission to replace parts yourself.