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It’s funny how Apple is trying to seem like they are now repair friendly while also being as strict as ever. The new battery removal method is cool though!
this is a good step in the right direction, at least genuine parts work, and if you report an iPhone as stolen, parts from stolen iPhones won't work which to me is a good thing. As for 3rd party parts well there are loads of poor quality 3rd party items, apple blocking these isn't a bad thing IMO
It's exactly why I never took their BS seriously when they brought up repairability in that recent Event Stream a few weeks ago. At this point I'm more than aware of their BS nowadays.
I am stunned by the amount of effort you have had to put in to this video, testing everything at every stage. Bravo! That feels like a close to exponentially difficult task !
yeah. if you don't have that 9v battery, its probably gonna be way stronger than it used to be, and near impossible but if you have it, its way better than the 55 gallons of glue they use to use.
@@Space_US I much prefer the method of just using thin adhesive double sided tape to stick a battery. Easy to get it off and easy to replace the tape with something else.
I just wanna say how much i appreciate your work hugh! I started watching your channel 4 years ago. This month i fixed my first phone ever. And now by the middle of the month, i have successfully fixed 5 mobile phones, granted all android, but still something I’m proud of. Between cracked displays or backs or faulty batteries, i have revived 5 devices that their owners have given up on. It’s all thanks to you. Thank you so much. Keep doing what you’re doing. You’re positively impacting people!
You should be on top of the Comments instead of this (That new battery removal method is pretty cool) Comments. Really love to see how people get what Hugh is doing here for all of us (:
Basically every new iPhone generation comes with a new caveat to reduce 3rd party replacements (or even 1st party ones). I think Apple will still do this until legal actions kicks into place.
They're def waiting to be forced. Legislators are a) bought b) tech illiterate. Imagine if your car was hardware locked to only get oil changes at the dealership, or gas locked to only Chevron in a co-branding deal. They'd never allow such monopolistic behavior.
This seems to me like a good safety feature. I would be PISSED if I spent the money on a used iPhone and laterfound out it had been rebuilt from cheap trash parts and then sold for full price. Of course, I wouldn't buy an iPhone of any kind, ever, but the point stands that it's a reasonable measure to ensure the value of a refurbished device.
@@operator8014If they can hardcode parts, I'm pretty sure they can verify whether the parts are genuine without disabling third-party spare parts to use their full functions eg: brightness of display and light/proximity sensor.
@@operator8014 If they can hard-code parts and identify whether they are original, I am pretty sure they can allow third-party spare parts without restriction while still indicating whether they are original (for example display auto brightness and truetone)
I seen in other videos that if the phone itself is icloud locked all the replacement parts will be as well. Thats probably why they added this feature most likely only parts that will calibrate is parts from apple or take a gamble with pulled parts on ebay in a few months. Most pulled parts are from icloud locked phones so I dont see it being worth it now. Just like apple wants.
Imagine they would do that to your car ... Pop in an unapproved battery or tires and you couldn't use it anymore. You wouldn't accept that so why accept it for the phones or computers
@@patrickcardon1643 thats literally how some high end vehicles work, like bmw. You need to go to a dealership to pair a replaced battery with THEIR software
That's been apple's justification for this in the first place - phone theft or trying to do it to phones ppl buy then return. It's nonsense. There would be no market or need to do that if spare parts were readily available, and apple won't do that because they make $$$ on it.
@@TrevelyanOO6People do just forget to remove the icloud lock on their devices when they send them to recylcing. While it would have a small positive impact, I think it would cause a larger negative impact
Literally every other article about the iPhone 16 is falling over itself to say how wonderful the repairability of the new model is. Bravo to you, Mr Jeffreys. I will continue never to buy Apple products due to their unconscionable and illegal conduct.
Its almost like theyre 75% of the way there. I agree it's *useful* to know, especially if you're purchasing second hand, where your parts have come from and if your device has undergone any repairs. The part that irks me is Apple's need to disable features. You can mandate that people pair their parts or acknowledge that the part is non-genuine on first boot, but why disable features for any other reason than kneecapping third party repair?
i just wanted to also give a heads up to something i doubt most people know about that i havent heard anyone speak about myself . on apple products if you replace parts such as the camera with another apple original you will not be allowed to factory reset it will just fail and then give you an error that requires plug into computer when i done this it failed from my computer aswell then i decided to take out the new camera and replace it with my old camera that was original with the phone then it succeeded . i found this out when i tried to reset my iPhone 13pm for sale after replacing the camera
Hey Hugh! Loved the video. I really agree that Apple needs to improve to making repairs simple. This stuff with the activation locks, the repair downsides.. they need to fix that one day.. anyways love the video and keep up the good work.
A lot of effort went into this video, so I understand why you didn't, but I would love to see a part swap where you intentionally activation lock one of the phones. Have Apple Account A signed into phone A with Find My enabled, then take the mainboard out and put mainboard B in that either isn't signed in or is using Apple Account B.
@@hexagon918 Yeah, we all agree on that. But for the sake of getting the most information out of these Tests, my question is still relevant it think. If the "re-pairing" does not work, if the other phone is on a different Apple-Account, the results presented here are misleading.
@@suddenlyacat Do you really believe that? That would be the complete opposite of how iCloud-Lock works right now. Right now every iPhone is Activation-Locked for anyone other than the original owner, even if NOT reported as lost or stolen. So what brings you to that assumption? Either way: "probably" is INHMO not enough here. I can't go out and buy replacement original parts to haven them "probably" work.
I've repaired a number of my own iPhones over the years (since the 3S) as I like to fix things. I gave up a few years ago. I did appreciate your effort in this video though mate. Cheers.
The positive thing that came out of this is it would prevent shady repair shops that claims to use "genuine apple parts" but actually use parts of off wish or aliexpress
I think if I had a crowbar and several weeks' time to work on the problem, this would probably be the best silver lining I could pry off of this impossibly large cloud.
That's tricky because as we saw on the video that might as easily happen on an actually genuine part and the technician will have a hard time convincing the customer that it is an actually genuine part. Then they will be marked as "shady". No matter where you look at it from apple will still have the control.
The message prompting you to be on the latest iOS version to complete the pair is scary, this takes planned obsolescence to the next level!! How many iOS versions backwards untill that message pops up? Because if it’s something crazy like one version behind then these new iPhones already have an expiration date to where they can’t even be fixed which is super evil
While technically easier, the battery "adhesive" requiring a damn 9V battery is insane to me when all they could do was make the battery pull tabs smaller and less sticky. Im still not sure why the battery is glued in ANY phone in the first place. We as humans were making removable batteries less than 10 years ago and afaik no one had any issues with that, though manufacturers seem to suffer from some sort of amnesia that targets only their knowledge of removable batteries. The only reason why removable batteries were an issue was because the back covers were also removable. If the back cover wasnt made with the strongest clips, then everything would remove itself from the main frame in case of a drop. Idk man, none of these manufacturing decisions make sense to me, especially when it comes to production of excessive waste.
Back covers stopped being easily removable to improve water resistance, actually. Go and watch the interviews with John Ternus where he explains why what they do actually makes a lot of sense.
@Arkadiusz-l9j because if the battery rattles inside de phone it would be annoying and if by some chance it can get damaged inside the phone because it was rattling if would blow up like lithium usually does and no, you can't make it a tight fit since the battery needs a little bit of space to expand during degradation. Samsung forgot that in the Galaxy Note 7 and we all remember what happened
@@peporganIt's just bullshit. Galaxy S5 had a removable cover and water resistance. There are a lot of ways to make back cover easily removable while retaining water resistance
@@DimaKirivel I prefer having a phone without user replaceable batteries because otherwise companies would have to make the cells much smaller and less dense to withstand users handling them and phones would have to be designed with replaceable batteries in mind adding extra shielding, brackets and gaskets to the phone. My current phone is 6 years and my original battery still lasts an entire day of use or a week+ on standby. I would really hate it if I had to remember to carry a replacement battery with me everywhere i go because the one on the phone was too small to last the entire day.
I would absolutely do this. Buying two may be prohibitively expensive, but I have a dual tone note 20 ultra. White back with bronze frame. It looks amazing, and white with purple, in either configuration seems like a nice pairing too.
Your job is extremely useful. Thank you! Companies try to be ahead of the repairing curve while maintaining a lot of the unrepairability they are supposedly trying to fix
I don't get the comments praising how "cool" the new battery replacement method is... It's just a method that's gonna require yet another tool... Glue method was simpler, requiring no tools or in some cases just a tweezer, which everyone has. They should simply hold it in with a bracket or something that you can screw loose, no bullshit glue or electricity required, just the same screwdriver for everything else.
anyone can pick up a v9 battery and some wires. The pull strip method while on paper does not require any extra tools as the phone ages the steps become harder and harder to remove (these videos of people removing them on 0 day old phones is not the real world scenario) . Screing in a batter has a huge risk of putting pressure on a focused area of the battery leaning to fires when it envirables starts to expand (yes every single phone battery will over time start to expand). This is why the glue down the center of the back of the battery, so it can expand in all directions without anything pitching on it (creating a fire).
@@hishnash Sure anyone can pick it up, but you shouldn't have to. And no, screwing a battery in place doesn't have any risk if it's designed properly. Or just have some other mechanism to lock the bottom part of it in place with a simple switch or something, can't be that hard to invent.
Not so simple, if you lock in part of the battery at the edge then when it swells (and it will) that creates a pitch point. Using adhesive in the center of the back of the battery is the best solution for multiple reasons: 1) the ensures there is no localized pressure point on the battery package 2) as the battery gradually expands the adhesive (unlike a screw or other clip etc) is designed to weaken and pull away to further reduce pressure points. 3) The adhesive holding the other part of the phone together is also designed so be weak enough that as the battery gradually expands it will break open rather than have the battery be compressed to much. This is extremely important as the batteries that swell tend to be on older phones people have forgotten that are sitting in a draw somewhere in your house. Your not going to notice as they gradually swell up, and if they catch fire it tends to lead to a house fire as since they are in a draw (with other old battery tec) they are in a perfect place to start a fire (remember battery fires do not need oxygen as they already have the needed oxidizer within the battery chemestry) The solution needed to get to solid climbable, screwable batteries is a change in how batteries are made away from Lithium Ion to something that does not swell as it dies.
@@hishnash It actually IS that simple. You can create flaps it holds onto or something from the bottom side, effectively having the same effect as the new technology that requires using a battery to loosen. Or a locking mechanism that holds it from the bottom. The problem has always been that Apple does not want you to repair things, and if you're going to repair it, they will make it as difficult as they can. They will never make something that's easy to repair.
Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of protection of using "stolen" parts, like parts being paired to Apple ID? Maybe you were never asked that because both phones were paired to your Apple ID?
I think that iOS 18 is actually bringing this new parts pairing thing to all supported devices, that's as far back as the iPhone XS, XSMax, and XR released all of the way back in 2018.
You mean like in old phones that were truly repairable? Apple wouldn't make so much money that way, come on, pay pay and pay again, it's not your phone anyway it's Apple's
or they can use the iphone 5 adhesive scaled to size. the 5 has strong adhesive but was very easy to remove. the 5s had the pull tabs which was very fragile. just put the 5 adhesive scaled to size. done. springs are a bit too much.
@@mrfoxesite69482 seriously though, i simple raised bit of plastic in the battery moulding and the equvilent hole for it to sit in, I mean it's not like you'll take the battery out more than once in the life of the phone is it.
@@patrickcardon1643 yes but they're all at it, not just apple, are they using the battery as some structual thing or something? I'm sure push fit would suffice.
Your repairs (sort of) work because both iPhones are login to the same AppleID. If the parts come from iPhones with a different AppleID, you can’t go past Activation Lock. Of course, you can turn off Find My on the donor iPhone or enter the AppleID password after repair. And, we know what’s wrong with Activation Lock. For example, you cannot notify the original owner to unlock their device / parts and there is no expiration time for Activation Lock. You can’t even turn off Activation Lock for just a part, such as a screen.
Hi Hugh. Since iOS18 is on the iPhone 11 and up, can you please try swapping screens etc on each of these model of phones to see if they all behave the same as the 16. Should be a great series of videos.
I always watch your videos on my TH-cam account and was eagerly waiting for your video on the iPhone 16. However, I couldn't find it. Then, I logged into this account on my school computer and, to my surprise, the video was there! But when I checked my other TH-cam account, which I Normally use, I couldn't find it-not even in my subscriptions section.
That's actually one of the reasons Apple stated, why they're doing all that. But I guess it's not allowed to believe them because: 1. every big company must be 100% evil and everything they do is 100% evil 2. Once you say something like that, people come from every corner of the internet, calling you sheep, dumb, stupid or naive
13:36 - AGAIN with these forced updates of theirs...🤦🏾♂️ See, this kind of stuff was exactly why I got burnt out by Apple's BS to begin with throughout the previous year and a half and now they're making it mandatory for repairs now?! Screw that noise even more! 😤
Any parts from lost & stolen devices won't be able to pair, it will list the parts in settings as lost or stolen which is a great move from Apple. However devices that are just locked to iCloud will work with no issues.
Anyone who buys iPhone thinking that they own it are in for a spin They are just renting the iPhone and their rent is due when the device needs repair I wonder why a company needs to make money from repairs and parts
@@randomnobody8770 see most people only keeping them maximum 3/4 years which isn’t long enough. With software Updates almost reaching 8/10 years that’s silly to upgrade every 3/4 years. People really have something against replacing their battery and would rather throw out the entire phone over a battery. Bout as much logic as throwing away a Ferrari because it needed gas...or some small repair.
I've had my iPhone 11 since release it still works great not slowed down at all I just upgraded to a iPhone 16 pro and gave my 11 to my little sister iPhones do last longer than androids unfortunately
ive been waiting for you to drop since i heard about this feature. Im glad most* features seem to have replacemant funtionality. 3rd party support would be nice but i will take what i can get
The problem is that repairability is import, but it is realistically rank 12 behind all the other things that a phone needs to fulfil first to make it a “good” phone. Look at the current “repairable first” phones, most of them suck.
I've got an idea for a very cool concept. Could you trasfer the components of iPhone 14 Pro Max into the frame of 11 Pro Max? It was the last one with somewhat ergonomic design compared to todays uncomfortably boxy iPhones.
hey Hugh i have a secondary motherboard i bought from eBay that i placed into my iPhone 13 pro which has all original parts and I've been using as my daily for about 2 years now, i was fascinated in your video that apple now lets you at least pair those parts, , i have been waiting to fix my auto brightness, and my camera functions for years, however when i tried to repair my parts nothing happens after the procedure...even though apple verified that all the parts in my iPhone 13 pro are Genuine, can you please make a separate video testing older older phone like iPhone 11,12,13, if you can test second has logic boards to see if this procedure will still work and if it was intended for those phones as well... Thanks
I'm as against anti-repair practices of Apple as one can be, but about the situation with back glass and enclosure being paired, aside from creating e-waste by using additional microchips, I see this as a useful feature as long as they don't disable non-genuine replacement. The reason is - when you buy used iPhone, you can just open settings and see if the seller's claims of "no repairs all stock parts" is actually true or not. But of course it also gives Apple full control over your phone and they can disable non-original parts at any moment they want, so there's that.
i think Apple will somehow being able to capture the statiatics on how much repairs are being done on genuine parts and those that are not. Since there are few legimiate ways to acquire genuine parts (buy from website/ donor devices without activation lock), the ratio of genuine part repairs should rise to a point that it will be okay to disable non genuine parts repairs done after certain date.
Is there anyway to remove the back glass piece from the piece mounted directly on the other side? Would love to try and do a clear/see-through back mod for my phone.
Is the new battery adhesive really re-usable? Hugh had no problem putting the battery back after applying nine volts - but I read on ifixit the batteries lose their stickiness after removing them. Perhaps it depends on the voltage applied?
It is sad from Apple to remove the Stickers, hey came with every product since (i think) the 80s. They could've just put in smaller stickers. But at least the new iPhone is a little bit "more" repair friendly.
i don't need any high end phone that kinda hard to repair and hard to find it replacement part, all i need is low end phone that do amazing thing like 70 bucks phone i had for 5 years that i can pop open it back cover, pluck out old batery and plug in new batery
Hi there, when you swapped the mother board, did you also swap the Face ID sensor? I’m asking because my motherboard in my iphone 12 just fried and I’ll need to put a new motherboard in, while maintaining full functionality of the phone. I guess the question is should I buy a used unlocked motherboard with or without Face ID? Would be much appreciated for your opinion or pointers
I’m pretty sure the reduced brightness would be considered a safety feature as cheap screens may not respond appropriately to the full voltage. Same can be said for the back glass and wireless charging. A non genuine MagSafe coil could cause damage at full speed, so I bet you that an unpaired MagSafe coil is limited in some capacity.
Yes, even first party screens each screen has a personalized calibration profile, the last thing you want to do is burn in some pixels before the user gets to load the calibration profile,.
One question: If they can do this with this one... Will the older phones, like a 13, 14 or 15 receive updates for these new linking functions too so you can use a replacement screen on an iPhone 14 for example?
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It’s funny how Apple is trying to seem like they are now repair friendly while also being as strict as ever. The new battery removal method is cool though!
I agree. Apple saw that it might be good for business to be repair friendly, as long as it has control over the repairs.
this is a good step in the right direction, at least genuine parts work, and if you report an iPhone as stolen, parts from stolen iPhones won't work which to me is a good thing. As for 3rd party parts well there are loads of poor quality 3rd party items, apple blocking these isn't a bad thing IMO
Craig: "Plus, our new iPhones this year are easier to repair than ever before. (....so long as you do them with us and not anyone else)"
It's exactly why I never took their BS seriously when they brought up repairability in that recent Event Stream a few weeks ago. At this point I'm more than aware of their BS nowadays.
It's funnier.. how they go that far, just to make sure you don't go anywhere to fix your phone
I am stunned by the amount of effort you have had to put in to this video, testing everything at every stage. Bravo! That feels like a close to exponentially difficult task !
regular (advanced) video content. 🤷🏼 high quality of course.
That is how you get views and subs ;)
i remember seeing once somebody joke about pairing the frame. well i guess thats a reality now. "lovely"
I recall those jokes myself.
That new battery removal method is pretty cool
One more hurdle towards repairing such device. Fuck Apple.
Baterry removal is overcomplicated and sucks...
Pretty inconvenient
yeah. if you don't have that 9v battery, its probably gonna be way stronger than it used to be, and near impossible but if you have it, its way better than the 55 gallons of glue they use to use.
@@Space_US I much prefer the method of just using thin adhesive double sided tape to stick a battery. Easy to get it off and easy to replace the tape with something else.
I just wanna say how much i appreciate your work hugh!
I started watching your channel 4 years ago. This month i fixed my first phone ever. And now by the middle of the month, i have successfully fixed 5 mobile phones, granted all android, but still something I’m proud of. Between cracked displays or backs or faulty batteries, i have revived 5 devices that their owners have given up on. It’s all thanks to you. Thank you so much. Keep doing what you’re doing. You’re positively impacting people!
You should be on top of the Comments instead of this (That new battery removal method is pretty cool) Comments. Really love to see how people get what Hugh is doing here for all of us (:
Basically every new iPhone generation comes with a new caveat to reduce 3rd party replacements (or even 1st party ones). I think Apple will still do this until legal actions kicks into place.
They're def waiting to be forced. Legislators are a) bought b) tech illiterate. Imagine if your car was hardware locked to only get oil changes at the dealership, or gas locked to only Chevron in a co-branding deal. They'd never allow such monopolistic behavior.
This seems to me like a good safety feature. I would be PISSED if I spent the money on a used iPhone and laterfound out it had been rebuilt from cheap trash parts and then sold for full price.
Of course, I wouldn't buy an iPhone of any kind, ever, but the point stands that it's a reasonable measure to ensure the value of a refurbished device.
Can't wait for them to make handing your old phone to a family member for free or switching away from apple against ToS.
@@operator8014If they can hardcode parts, I'm pretty sure they can verify whether the parts are genuine without disabling third-party spare parts to use their full functions eg: brightness of display and light/proximity sensor.
@@operator8014 If they can hard-code parts and identify whether they are original, I am pretty sure they can allow third-party spare parts without restriction while still indicating whether they are original (for example display auto brightness and truetone)
I jokingly said a few videos ago that apple would start pairing the back glass not saying I didn’t expect it, it was only a matter of time
Don't give them ideas next time😂
Soon screws and mother board pairing
@@BurgerPartyis the mother board not paired😮😮
@@EddieCarmody what would you pair it to? itself?
@@EddieCarmody The logic board is what all the other parts are paired to.
2020: no charger and earphones
2024: no stickers
2025: no cable?
i wouldn’t be surprised
@@nitrogenioyou said it.
totally for the environment btw
2030: no phone
I’m glad there are improvements but it’s not enough. That battery removal is cool though. I’d love to see that become more common
I seen in other videos that if the phone itself is icloud locked all the replacement parts will be as well. Thats probably why they added this feature most likely only parts that will calibrate is parts from apple or take a gamble with pulled parts on ebay in a few months. Most pulled parts are from icloud locked phones so I dont see it being worth it now. Just like apple wants.
At least then that would limit iphone chop shops. Grab a phone out someone’s hands and sell the parts.
Until a workaround is found
Imagine they would do that to your car ... Pop in an unapproved battery or tires and you couldn't use it anymore. You wouldn't accept that so why accept it for the phones or computers
@@patrickcardon1643 thats literally how some high end vehicles work, like bmw. You need to go to a dealership to pair a replaced battery with THEIR software
That's been apple's justification for this in the first place - phone theft or trying to do it to phones ppl buy then return.
It's nonsense. There would be no market or need to do that if spare parts were readily available, and apple won't do that because they make $$$ on it.
@@TrevelyanOO6People do just forget to remove the icloud lock on their devices when they send them to recylcing. While it would have a small positive impact, I think it would cause a larger negative impact
First, they took the headphone jack. Then they came for the charger. Now they took our god damn Apple Stickers. It's truly a dark day.
I literally stopped using the headphone jack and thew all accessory things in the junk draw, then eventually the trash.
Everything in the name of: making as much money as possible for the investors and shareholders
@@randomnobody8770 Ok but everyone else still wants the headphone jack
And that’s why I made the decision to switch to huawei
@@randomnobody8770 wish I could do the same but I just dislike bluetooth headphones
Literally every other article about the iPhone 16 is falling over itself to say how wonderful the repairability of the new model is. Bravo to you, Mr Jeffreys. I will continue never to buy Apple products due to their unconscionable and illegal conduct.
There the best easy to repair compared to Samsung
illegal? yeah sure
Its almost like theyre 75% of the way there.
I agree it's *useful* to know, especially if you're purchasing second hand, where your parts have come from and if your device has undergone any repairs.
The part that irks me is Apple's need to disable features. You can mandate that people pair their parts or acknowledge that the part is non-genuine on first boot, but why disable features for any other reason than kneecapping third party repair?
Third party repair decreases oem sales.
i just wanted to also give a heads up to something i doubt most people know about that i havent heard anyone speak about myself . on apple products if you replace parts such as the camera with another apple original you will not be allowed to factory reset it will just fail and then give you an error that requires plug into computer when i done this it failed from my computer aswell then i decided to take out the new camera and replace it with my old camera that was original with the phone then it succeeded . i found this out when i tried to reset my iPhone 13pm for sale after replacing the camera
Pretty sure that's because of the LiDAR sensor, if you break yours or replace it you can't pair your back camera again, which seems like an oversight
@@SkynetCyban oversight in a problem the manufacturer fabricated themselves, great!
@@SkynetCyban oversight from apple who constantly trying to trick their consumer? Yeah right.
Hey Hugh! Loved the video. I really agree that Apple needs to improve to making repairs simple. This stuff with the activation locks, the repair downsides.. they need to fix that one day.. anyways love the video and keep up the good work.
They don't need to fix it ... they need to stop sabotaging it, no other name for it
You should check if ios18 fixes swapping parts on iphone15s or older.
It did it on my iphone 12's camera, didnt work for my refurbished screen because the earpiece had been replaced with an aftermarket one
It works on the M2 iPad Air, the M4 iPad Pro, and iPhones past the iPhone 12.
it should work.
it worked for my 15 pro's back glass
it is announced to work with iPhone 12 and later.
A lot of effort went into this video, so I understand why you didn't, but I would love to see a part swap where you intentionally activation lock one of the phones. Have Apple Account A signed into phone A with Find My enabled, then take the mainboard out and put mainboard B in that either isn't signed in or is using Apple Account B.
best part of iphone teardowns is Hugh headbanging for Face ID. 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Dude, battery replacements are a snap on this phone. That’s cool. Heck of a lot easier than on my iPhone, which I wouldn’t attempt to work on.
They were far easier in the S3 era. Pop off the back and you can pull the battery.
@@amak1131 Yes I remember
Were the two iPhones linked to different Apple-Accounts? That way you could have also tested for the "part-activation-lock".
I mean why does it matter? A simple piece of hardware shouldn't be software locked. It's really some crap apple is pulling.
@@hexagon918 Yeah, we all agree on that.
But for the sake of getting the most information out of these Tests, my question is still relevant it think. If the "re-pairing" does not work, if the other phone is on a different Apple-Account, the results presented here are misleading.
They probably won’t have any issues unless the device was reported lost or stolen
@@suddenlyacat Do you really believe that? That would be the complete opposite of how iCloud-Lock works right now. Right now every iPhone is Activation-Locked for anyone other than the original owner, even if NOT reported as lost or stolen. So what brings you to that assumption?
Either way: "probably" is INHMO not enough here. I can't go out and buy replacement original parts to haven them "probably" work.
Here's what I think so far: much better than the last few years. Still a long ways to go in regards to improving the repair experience.
I've repaired a number of my own iPhones over the years (since the 3S) as I like to fix things. I gave up a few years ago. I did appreciate your effort in this video though mate. Cheers.
Thanks Hugh, you're a real champion for the people.
I never got tired of FaceID first setup. It's always so goofy.
The positive thing that came out of this is it would prevent shady repair shops that claims to use "genuine apple parts" but actually use parts of off wish or aliexpress
I think if I had a crowbar and several weeks' time to work on the problem, this would probably be the best silver lining I could pry off of this impossibly large cloud.
That's tricky because as we saw on the video that might as easily happen on an actually genuine part and the technician will have a hard time convincing the customer that it is an actually genuine part. Then they will be marked as "shady".
No matter where you look at it from apple will still have the control.
The message prompting you to be on the latest iOS version to complete the pair is scary, this takes planned obsolescence to the next level!! How many iOS versions backwards untill that message pops up? Because if it’s something crazy like one version behind then these new iPhones already have an expiration date to where they can’t even be fixed which is super evil
Right that's been pointed out by others that once a phone hits its end of life certain functions can't be repaired ever again including face ID..
Oh yeah, that's true. Some older iPhone already cannot activate.
That means there will be tons of iPhone Ewaste
The new battery removal method is definitely pretty cool lol
Best teardown I've watched by far. Thanks for sharing.
While technically easier, the battery "adhesive" requiring a damn 9V battery is insane to me when all they could do was make the battery pull tabs smaller and less sticky.
Im still not sure why the battery is glued in ANY phone in the first place.
We as humans were making removable batteries less than 10 years ago and afaik no one had any issues with that, though manufacturers seem to suffer from some sort of amnesia that targets only their knowledge of removable batteries.
The only reason why removable batteries were an issue was because the back covers were also removable. If the back cover wasnt made with the strongest clips, then everything would remove itself from the main frame in case of a drop.
Idk man, none of these manufacturing decisions make sense to me, especially when it comes to production of excessive waste.
Back covers stopped being easily removable to improve water resistance, actually.
Go and watch the interviews with John Ternus where he explains why what they do actually makes a lot of sense.
@Arkadiusz-l9j because if the battery rattles inside de phone it would be annoying and if by some chance it can get damaged inside the phone because it was rattling if would blow up like lithium usually does and no, you can't make it a tight fit since the battery needs a little bit of space to expand during degradation. Samsung forgot that in the Galaxy Note 7 and we all remember what happened
@@peporganIt's just bullshit. Galaxy S5 had a removable cover and water resistance. There are a lot of ways to make back cover easily removable while retaining water resistance
The reason of why batteries are glued to the chasis is to secure them from getting disconnected by our movements
@@DimaKirivel I prefer having a phone without user replaceable batteries because otherwise companies would have to make the cells much smaller and less dense to withstand users handling them and phones would have to be designed with replaceable batteries in mind adding extra shielding, brackets and gaskets to the phone. My current phone is 6 years and my original battery still lasts an entire day of use or a week+ on standby.
I would really hate it if I had to remember to carry a replacement battery with me everywhere i go because the one on the phone was too small to last the entire day.
I would absolutely do this. Buying two may be prohibitively expensive, but I have a dual tone note 20 ultra. White back with bronze frame. It looks amazing, and white with purple, in either configuration seems like a nice pairing too.
New iPhone new Hugh Jeffreys video
really appreciated your videos, very information and you did lots of hard work to test the repairability
A upload a week is amazing
Your job is extremely useful. Thank you! Companies try to be ahead of the repairing curve while maintaining a lot of the unrepairability they are supposedly trying to fix
I work as an aasp and I’m watching this before I’ve received any training for the new model 💀 thanks Hugh for coming in clutch!!
I don't get the comments praising how "cool" the new battery replacement method is... It's just a method that's gonna require yet another tool... Glue method was simpler, requiring no tools or in some cases just a tweezer, which everyone has.
They should simply hold it in with a bracket or something that you can screw loose, no bullshit glue or electricity required, just the same screwdriver for everything else.
anyone can pick up a v9 battery and some wires.
The pull strip method while on paper does not require any extra tools as the phone ages the steps become harder and harder to remove (these videos of people removing them on 0 day old phones is not the real world scenario) .
Screing in a batter has a huge risk of putting pressure on a focused area of the battery leaning to fires when it envirables starts to expand (yes every single phone battery will over time start to expand).
This is why the glue down the center of the back of the battery, so it can expand in all directions without anything pitching on it (creating a fire).
@@hishnash Sure anyone can pick it up, but you shouldn't have to. And no, screwing a battery in place doesn't have any risk if it's designed properly. Or just have some other mechanism to lock the bottom part of it in place with a simple switch or something, can't be that hard to invent.
Not so simple, if you lock in part of the battery at the edge then when it swells (and it will) that creates a pitch point.
Using adhesive in the center of the back of the battery is the best solution for multiple reasons:
1) the ensures there is no localized pressure point on the battery package
2) as the battery gradually expands the adhesive (unlike a screw or other clip etc) is designed to weaken and pull away to further reduce pressure points.
3) The adhesive holding the other part of the phone together is also designed so be weak enough that as the battery gradually expands it will break open rather than have the battery be compressed to much.
This is extremely important as the batteries that swell tend to be on older phones people have forgotten that are sitting in a draw somewhere in your house. Your not going to notice as they gradually swell up, and if they catch fire it tends to lead to a house fire as since they are in a draw (with other old battery tec) they are in a perfect place to start a fire (remember battery fires do not need oxygen as they already have the needed oxidizer within the battery chemestry)
The solution needed to get to solid climbable, screwable batteries is a change in how batteries are made away from Lithium Ion to something that does not swell as it dies.
@@hishnash It actually IS that simple. You can create flaps it holds onto or something from the bottom side, effectively having the same effect as the new technology that requires using a battery to loosen. Or a locking mechanism that holds it from the bottom. The problem has always been that Apple does not want you to repair things, and if you're going to repair it, they will make it as difficult as they can. They will never make something that's easy to repair.
Thanks for making this video Hugh. I’ve not decided to buy one of these yet, but your info makes the eventual purchase more informed. Many thanks!
It makes me feel like I'm going bananas when I go online and see people defend Activation Lock on parts.
What arguments do these people present for activation locks?
@@Karan-Aujlatheft, pretty sure it only works if it’s marked as lost/stolen
@@Karan-Aujla Theft.
Anti-theft and to make sure the repair shop didn't use some garbage parts to do a trashy repair before flipping the phone as if it were new.
If my phone is stolen, I want all of its components to be completely useless to anybody.
Great as always Hugh! Thank u very much for keeping Your non shaky Hands on such expensive Hardware for us...
Try enabling activation lock on the first phone and swap its parts to the second phone to see if activation lock blocks it.
You are nearing 1 Million Subscribers!!! Totally deserved!
Most repairing jargon: "dont fix if its not broken"
Meanwhile apple: "dont fix"
My next phone is Nothing.
They look great and have awesome UI. Excited
Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of protection of using "stolen" parts, like parts being paired to Apple ID? Maybe you were never asked that because both phones were paired to your Apple ID?
Missed the premiere, thanks for your work. It is really useful.
Lovely! I was surprised to see the new internal design for this years model.
Great video. Hardly touched the fast forward button at all. Took it all in.
Well done 👍🏼
Did you have different Apple ID logged to each phone to pair parts to a different owner
I think that iOS 18 is actually bringing this new parts pairing thing to all supported devices, that's as far back as the iPhone XS, XSMax, and XR released all of the way back in 2018.
I can hear Apple getting VERY frustrated with you... "It's NOT a fricken button!!!!! 😡" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
I like the new battery removal technique! But all in all, a great example of why I abandoned Apple.
Why can't you just take the battery out?
A simple spring clip or something?
You mean like in old phones that were truly repairable? Apple wouldn't make so much money that way, come on, pay pay and pay again, it's not your phone anyway it's Apple's
or they can use the iphone 5 adhesive scaled to size. the 5 has strong adhesive but was very easy to remove. the 5s had the pull tabs which was very fragile. just put the 5 adhesive scaled to size. done. springs are a bit too much.
@@mrfoxesite69482 seriously though, i simple raised bit of plastic in the battery moulding and the equvilent hole for it to sit in, I mean it's not like you'll take the battery out more than once in the life of the phone is it.
@@patrickcardon1643 yes but they're all at it, not just apple, are they using the battery as some structual thing or something?
I'm sure push fit would suffice.
Many congratulations at reaching 1M subs (just posting the inevitable).
☮
Not gonna lie, that battery adhesive is really cool.
Your repairs (sort of) work because both iPhones are login to the same AppleID. If the parts come from iPhones with a different AppleID, you can’t go past Activation Lock. Of course, you can turn off Find My on the donor iPhone or enter the AppleID password after repair. And, we know what’s wrong with Activation Lock. For example, you cannot notify the original owner to unlock their device / parts and there is no expiration time for Activation Lock. You can’t even turn off Activation Lock for just a part, such as a screen.
Hi Hugh. Since iOS18 is on the iPhone 11 and up, can you please try swapping screens etc on each of these model of phones to see if they all behave the same as the 16. Should be a great series of videos.
Needing a battery to remove the battery. Oh Apple...you truly innovate, don't you?
Innovative unpossession... You'll still pay through the nose for it but it'll never be truly yours.
Brother this is much better, it makes sure once our phone is stolen it isn’t resold . And also resell value is good
I always watch your videos on my TH-cam account and was eagerly waiting for your video on the iPhone 16. However, I couldn't find it. Then, I logged into this account on my school computer and, to my surprise, the video was there! But when I checked my other TH-cam account, which I Normally use, I couldn't find it-not even in my subscriptions section.
It might seem silly but it's a good change to prevent iPhone theft!
That's actually one of the reasons Apple stated, why they're doing all that. But I guess it's not allowed to believe them because:
1. every big company must be 100% evil and everything they do is 100% evil
2. Once you say something like that, people come from every corner of the internet, calling you sheep, dumb, stupid or naive
Nicely done Mr Jeffreys.
13:36 - AGAIN with these forced updates of theirs...🤦🏾♂️ See, this kind of stuff was exactly why I got burnt out by Apple's BS to begin with throughout the previous year and a half and now they're making it mandatory for repairs now?! Screw that noise even more! 😤
Any parts from lost & stolen devices won't be able to pair, it will list the parts in settings as lost or stolen which is a great move from Apple. However devices that are just locked to iCloud will work with no issues.
Anyone who buys iPhone thinking that they own it are in for a spin
They are just renting the iPhone and their rent is due when the device needs repair
I wonder why a company needs to make money from repairs and parts
Because forcing you to give them money makes line go up
What phones do you really own? Even Samsung have bunch of terms and conditions you have to agree with
1:00 Apple ran out of useful things to remove from the box, so they had to come for the Apple stickers 🤣
Planned obsolescence
You don't say? Capitalism's point since the industriali revolution
people keep iphones longer than any other phone model
@@randomnobody8770 see most people only keeping them maximum 3/4 years which isn’t long enough. With software
Updates almost reaching 8/10 years that’s silly to upgrade every 3/4 years. People really have something against replacing their battery and would rather throw out the entire phone over a battery. Bout as much logic as throwing away a Ferrari because it needed gas...or some small repair.
I've had my iPhone 11 since release it still works great not slowed down at all I just upgraded to a iPhone 16 pro and gave my 11 to my little sister iPhones do last longer than androids unfortunately
ive been waiting for you to drop since i heard about this feature. Im glad most* features seem to have replacemant funtionality. 3rd party support would be nice but i will take what i can get
We need a test of 3rd part parts now
There aren't any....
@@mikepxg6406 Hugh could install iOS18 on a 15, 14, 13 etc. Parts are available.
5:55
@@mikepxg6406 i know, we need to wait foe for them to come out
Exactly the video iPhone Geeks need to see. Cheers mate.
what’s crazy is the lack of demand for such devices. These iPhones are the least repairable in my book. Fuck Apple.
The problem is that repairability is import, but it is realistically rank 12 behind all the other things that a phone needs to fulfil first to make it a “good” phone. Look at the current “repairable first” phones, most of them suck.
Cry more
It’s repairability is still better than before, which is fine with me
When will you hit 1M?!
Bro has 2k just laying around lmao
youtube money? plus he does repairs and sells items on his shop
he probably will sell these after some months
@@randomcrashingfacility31 i doubt he will sell em. he has a huge collection of iphones
@@randomcrashingfacility31 even so
@@LouisianaBurns yeah, but still
Every new iphone model is another chance to reduce consumer right to repair 🥰
Edit: wait actually a nice change 5:55
I've got an idea for a very cool concept. Could you trasfer the components of iPhone 14 Pro Max into the frame of 11 Pro Max? It was the last one with somewhat ergonomic design compared to todays uncomfortably boxy iPhones.
No stickers ? Yet the price goes up
the price has been the same for years, stop using this as an excuse
the price has stayed the same since the iPhone 12 though
I genuinely think they did this for the environment this time. They want to brag about reducing plastic in their packaging, which they absolutely do.
This is the cheapest iPhone since 2008 adjusted for inflation (in the US anyway, possibly Oz, def EU, not in Japan).
Some interesting changes! That battery popout was so cool and I like the fact that the front and back panels are removable....and we're done!
And that's why I stay with samsung :)
Kids these days
Keep your slow Samsung 🤗
@@iustin1 And you keep your hypePhone. See everyone is happy, no need for snarky comments.
My brother in christ this is 2024
I own a Xiaomi
The new 9V Battery removal method is actually AMAZING
i would like to see someone build a pc using smartphone parts.....considering how powerful smartphone processors are nowadays.
Thanks for all the testing
hey Hugh i have a secondary motherboard i bought from eBay that i placed into my iPhone 13 pro which has all original parts and I've been using as my daily for about 2 years now, i was fascinated in your video that apple now lets you at least pair those parts, , i have been waiting to fix my auto brightness, and my camera functions for years, however when i tried to repair my parts nothing happens after the procedure...even though apple verified that all the parts in my iPhone 13 pro are Genuine, can you please make a separate video testing older older phone like iPhone 11,12,13, if you can test second has logic boards to see if this procedure will still work and if it was intended for those phones as well... Thanks
Great video as always 🎉
Bring back plug 'n play batteries ! 👍😊
What 😂 How long have we been waiting for this 🎉🎉🎉🎉
The battery removal was cool tho
I'm as against anti-repair practices of Apple as one can be, but about the situation with back glass and enclosure being paired, aside from creating e-waste by using additional microchips, I see this as a useful feature as long as they don't disable non-genuine replacement. The reason is - when you buy used iPhone, you can just open settings and see if the seller's claims of "no repairs all stock parts" is actually true or not. But of course it also gives Apple full control over your phone and they can disable non-original parts at any moment they want, so there's that.
i think Apple will somehow being able to capture the statiatics on how much repairs are being done on genuine parts and those that are not. Since there are few legimiate ways to acquire genuine parts (buy from website/ donor devices without activation lock), the ratio of genuine part repairs should rise to a point that it will be okay to disable non genuine parts repairs done after certain date.
Is there anyway to remove the back glass piece from the piece mounted directly on the other side? Would love to try and do a clear/see-through back mod for my phone.
Finally, the video we've been waiting for!
Well, they found a loophole 🙄 classic apple move. The battery adhesive is cool tho
Is the new battery adhesive really re-usable? Hugh had no problem putting the battery back after applying nine volts - but I read on ifixit the batteries lose their stickiness after removing them. Perhaps it depends on the voltage applied?
Loved your video content ❤
It is sad from Apple to remove the Stickers, hey came with every product since (i think) the 80s. They could've just put in smaller stickers. But at least the new iPhone is a little bit "more" repair friendly.
Gotta love those stickers you got when at primary school
i don't need any high end phone that kinda hard to repair and hard to find it replacement part, all i need is low end phone that do amazing thing like 70 bucks phone i had for 5 years that i can pop open it back cover, pluck out old batery and plug in new batery
Hi there, when you swapped the mother board, did you also swap the Face ID sensor? I’m asking because my motherboard in my iphone 12 just fried and I’ll need to put a new motherboard in, while maintaining full functionality of the phone. I guess the question is should I buy a used unlocked motherboard with or without Face ID? Would be much appreciated for your opinion or pointers
Buy the motherboard with the FaceID components.
I’m pretty sure the reduced brightness would be considered a safety feature as cheap screens may not respond appropriately to the full voltage. Same can be said for the back glass and wireless charging. A non genuine MagSafe coil could cause damage at full speed, so I bet you that an unpaired MagSafe coil is limited in some capacity.
Yes, even first party screens each screen has a personalized calibration profile, the last thing you want to do is burn in some pixels before the user gets to load the calibration profile,.
One question: If they can do this with this one... Will the older phones, like a 13, 14 or 15 receive updates for these new linking functions too so you can use a replacement screen on an iPhone 14 for example?
We are closer and closer to no box unbox experience
Great job!