Mythic+ SAVED! The Brilliant Changes in War Within... And Why Some Players Are Angry About Them
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World of Warcraft The War Within had big updates on the beta this week to talk about, like new map elements and search bars and Warband options and the new War Within login screen. But the big news is the HUGE Mythic+ changes that do nothing less than revolutionise the entire game mode. No more affixes beyond M+ 12, new Xal'atath's bargain affixes, Challenger's Peril 15-second penalty and Xal'atath's Guile mean a standardised experience for high key pushers. It's what players have been asking for for ages now, so why are players so angry after testing it?
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M+ changes are cool because now top end players will be able to have consistency, while the rest of us get to have fun with the rest of the good affixes.
Yeah, I love it :)
Top players are actually crying
I 100% thought hearthstone immediately when I saw the loading screen lol
The beginning skit is exactly how I approached this new login screen😂. You guys just get me
The login screen, which I agree isn't thrilling, is the MOST first World (of Warcraft) problem I have heard with this game. We are going to barely see it. Remember that time when Shadowlands was a thing.....
I like to think that the start up screen is the first in a series, like now its cracked, and in the second season it bursts open or something
Good point. For the first time in it's history, WoW is doing a Threequel. Perhaps the login screen has a through line to the third expansion. That would be interesting, but I still like the other login screens better.
Maybe there will be more to this one, too. Who knows, maybe that thing cracks open as patches or your characters progresses through the content?
Let's Rundown!! Evi's Beta Rundown is my jam.
Those M+ changes will bring stability and predictability to high keys, amazing. No more dead weeks, and mental health support groups for our healers!
My favourite segment was "Evies beta rundown" i esp liked when Evi said "LETS RUNDOWN!" it really spoke to me on an emotional lvl
My biggest takeaway from the log-in screen discourse is finding out that other people are still "logging in". I-- am I weird that I let BattleNet do it for me? I only see the log-in screen for the duration of the "fetching server lists" message, which isn't even long enough for Alexstrasza to land on the pillar in the distance; when there's server issues; or when I've been nerd-logged for being afk... which means that I basically associate seeing Alexstrasza with downtime rather than the start of my adventure. I don't even remember the Legion or BFA, and while I recognise Shadowlands - I didn't realize it was the log-in artwork and I only recognized it a promotional image. For me, it's all about the loading screen art - like the artwork with the Aspects and the Eternals, or the shot with the Drust guy leering from the side of the screen. Make *those* animated!
I do think your speculation is correct though. It does looks like art that is intended to evolve. I hope for everyone else's sake that it evolves more quickly than per-expansion based on how everyone else is reacting.
That’s exactly what I thought when I heard people complaining about it. I guess they have really slow internet maybe?
I came to look for this comment, who has time to see/worry about the log in screen?!
I admire your guys' continuing enthusiasm in delivering all this content. Very cool people.
The world map they went for really is kinda sad. Would've been so cool to actually see the zones vertically stacked on top of each other in a stylized way. I guess kinda like that transition screen map you get in Hades for example.
Mmmm as long as I don’t have to left click and right to change the map depth. I’m all for artistry but I think the map good as it is
I think we as a community get a bit of information like the log in screen and we just need to let it cook and see how it plays out before we get to upset about what it looks like. It could play out completely different from what we see.
You guys remember at the start of Dragonflight when we wished for more dragons to come swooping down alongside our progress besides only Alexstrasza?
Yeah, not doing that again.
From the intro to knifey wifey all the way to the end: this Weekly Reset was an absolute banger.
The Dark Portal! 6:12 Lmao
First I'm hearing about people being angry about them lol
I feel like they are a week late lol
Yeah, my first thought is that the "new Tali" is all about creating anger for clicks, and I don't like it.
Same everything I’ve seen has been positive
A loud minority might be mad but everybody I talked to is elated
The WoWhead comments were full of anger which was baffling because the changers are nice.
11/10 banging episode. To be fair, if they would have left the login screen as the dark portal since Vanilla then I wouldn't have complained.
We have been blessed with so much Evi
The music bit on the log in screen was amazing. I do think some animation and music is going to sell the login screen, i hope
I was expecting the Jurassic Park on a recorder track.
When evitel said they had a sketch planned on the weekly reset for the new login screen i knew it would be good 😂
*The login screen kinda reminds me of a rice pie in the oven*
12 billion Australian dollars? I feel attacked. I can't argue the point, but I feel attacked.
Nah, the new Warband screen is the new login screen. Logging in is like 95% automatic so the only time you'll see it is if a. you're in a queue/waiting for servers to come up after maintenance, you get disconnected or c. your PC is *really* slow.
Also, the new affix system is AWESOME. Low keys get some mix-ups to keep things interesting for lower tiers of play and high tiers are just 100% consistent for diving in to playing without having to deal with any kind of changes.
i feel called out tbh...
Ultimately the login screen is not something we see very often anymore so maybe they just decided not to spend a lot of time on it. Or this could even be step 1 towards removing that concept entirely, i.e. maybe one day you'll login from the battlenet launcher or not at all.
Yeah the Dragon Flight orders system is the ONLY reason why i for once havn't maxed out a single crafting profession.
The affixes were there thing that discouraged me from doing m+ so perhaps with this change maybe I will be incentivised to do them and not drop the game after few months
Wouldnt be surprised if this login screen evolves every expansion in the World Soul saga, or even every major patch.
If one of the biggest complaints about The War Within beta is the login screen, I think we are in for a pretty solid expansion.
Gotta say though, that login screen is much easier on the eyes than the flashbang that is the Final Fantasy 14 Dawntrail login screen.
I am hoping that login screen is going to act like a gate or sliding door, revealing the actual log in screen on launch day.
Boy Evi's Beta Roundup sure rounded up all the Beta news! Let's rrrrroundup!
"Fun tunnel", bruh she's killing it
Last I checked ppl loved the changes to M+.
The forms always find a way.
So, I log in via battle net and instantly move past this, I haven't even thought about a login screen for like a decade.
The fact that people are losing their minds is predictable though because people on the forums live to be angry at all times.
ngl, I never even see the login screen anymore with auto login and whatnot
pulsating magma vein is EGREGIOUS 😂
That opening skit really cracked me up today 😂
I dony remember the last time i actually seen the log in screen, you all are crazy
Loved the new segment --- Evi's Beta rundown!
could help but notice that glowing d20 in the background and i was wondering where you got it from? if anybody knows
You had me at Login Screen and it's Music. When you find the Tavern lmk
3:28 You are completely missing the point.... In DF if you did anything other than crafting from day one in the expansion, a monopoly had already formed in every crafting profession, due to people only wanting rank 5 gear. Only the people that got that ability first got business, meaning you'd have to pay hundreds of thousands in gold just to rank up to have a chance at competing. This is an amazing change, and has me actually interested in returning. No, players don't want to create gear solely for npcs.. Yes, they want an opportunity to compete.
But... the first people into the system also spent hundreds of thousands of gold.
It'd be a surprise to NOT hear people are angry at this point.
imo +7 affix is also targeting the death skips. usual 20 second loss or affixed 1 minute loss matters a lot to many grps and will cause special pathing just for these
Death skips just aren’t that common
Done correctly, ANY character on your PC thats done XYZ quests should unlock details on the login.....
It'd need to be locally stored though as it has to change based on what your account has done!
I think a lot of people didnt notice the balls xalatath summons don't HAVE to be cc/kick/knockback. You can run through them. So if you have a melee or a warlock or hunter near em they can just run through em all, they dont take damage, just need speed.
I do think the bargain affixes would be just the two. It seemed like these were just the ones being tested right now. My guess would be around 6 affixed that rotate once TWW is out.
We never see the login screen unless we D/C anyway so i don't understand the complaint.
So excited to see Evi back!
Tali you can't do that, at 17:52 you gave your entire American audience a heart attack
The Weekly Vault expansion log in screen looks decent, I hope I get a trinket this week
Where come from the music at 6:00 Mins ?
holy crap, they actually took my advice from the forums and changed the affixes in the way I wrote x)
The only thing that's not as nice is the key level squish... I'd rather have 100 keys levels than 12...
That way the performance would be much more pronouced...
Now jumping a key from 7-8 will just feel like such a huuuuge jump.
One of your best intro skits! Keep it up, guys ❤
I mean it's not the greatest but the think the log-in screen is decent
Been a minute since I've been able to catch a Weekly Reset. Great stuff as always, love the uptick in Evi segments! Thanks for keeping us up to date on all the WoW shenanigans, you two!
Love you guys so much. Please keep doing what you're doing.
as someone who previously struggled to log on during Wrath due to Sindragosa, i'm fine with the underwhelming login screen, that being said there's a chance that this screen will evolve during TWW and possibly even throughout the Worldsoul Saga, so i dont think that we should get hung up about this screen for long,
“Pothole on the M4” 😂😂😂
I just started WoW like a month ago, and found your video. Funniest WoW video I’ve watched so far. Instant sub.
Also it's supposed to be speed up season as well
login screen is fine comon you only see it for a bit anyway.
Sure, the login screen is kinda boring, but there is never any need to look at it anymore, is there?
Back when we had the awesome Sindragosa one, we were indeed looking at it. Nowadays we click PLAY on the launcher and the game zooms past the login screen.. Id rather they spend their good resources on other things :D
Well ive seen people get 2k rating in M+ in the first week, i dont really think anything will be cut shorter than it already is....maybe for people who struggle a lot or have weaker nonmeta classes but there really wasnt any shitty week if you played just for that 2k+ rating.
Pushers wont stop pushing anyway
Look, some person on the art team put their whole artussy into that big veiny ball, and now we’re all just sh*tting on it. Feels bad, man😅
Should have went with the L.A. Story art museum scene.
Tbh that Heartstone login music would be fire
Evie's beta rundown was fantastic! "Let's Rundown!"
The login screen is one of those details that technically is irrelevant but in practical are so important because of how many iconic ones we had in the past. No matter you are only going to look at it for a second before getting into the game because you will log in reminded by how underwhelming it is.
We see the login screen for like 5 sec per gameplay session, since you log in from the launcher, not from the game client directly anymore. Spending all kinds of time on a fancy login screen nobody will ever spend any time looking at is a total waste of time.
Am i th only one who thinks Evi has a xal'a'tath roleplay outfit in the ckoset for Tali that she brings out on special occasions
Nah. Tali is the one who wears it 😂😂
Everyone knows login screens need booba
The hearthstone joke at the begining made me laugh to tears
"Imagine this big veiny ball, erupting!" Oh I'm imagining it. I'm imagining it all over Azeroth.
looking forward to seeing you guys at gamescom!!
7:45 what Jim hearing is that the game is now so good, there is nothing left to complain about except for a login screen that you’ll only see for 1-5 seconds whenever you log in. 😂
So… tyrannical and fortified together…. A 20% damage on enemies on top of that… and 15 seconds death timer… will I be able to finish a key without people leaving the group after a couple of deaths? 😅 unless they make the timer super lenient fortified and tyrannical together would already slow the dungeons up.
The audio is in the video is clearer, high passed and less boomy, definitely can't hear Taliesin's radio-voice, but can hear Evitel's room echo, I hate change. Ok jokes aside it is clipping a few times even.
I like the log in screen
The Dark Portal bit had me rolling lmao!
Absolutely loved the opening skit. 11/10.
Great, now I’m going to hear HS music in my head every time I login during TWW no matter what they actually use. 😂
You don’t even see the login screen anymore since you can launch the game with the launcher
i kinda just skim through the videos now days after that live stream where he shit talks people
Im waiting for a M+LFG
Loved Evi's Beta Rundown!
If that was the music, that sounds like camp/warband music.
the scripts are always funny and clever, but this one especially so! Genuinely laughed out loud at the intro bit
oh look meta quests are blue where have I seen that before...
New announcement from wow HQ for Midnight players will be involved with the restoration of the restored High Elven city having the opportunity to contribute materials and complete quests to help with the restoration, a completely new and original game idea called restoration of district FF14.
Still no reason other to gate content to not have it in LFG, until it is it's private content.
great video guys
stg this login screen better be dynamic or im not coming back (maybe /s idk)
The new login screen is quite similar to Brazil flag now.
This expasion is gonna be hard it seens.
As an Aussie i find your joke about our terrible exchange rate to be offensive! Wait did i say offensive? I meant completely true and hilarious
Anybody else thought of 'Jumanji' after seeing the login screen the first time? 😂👏
You two are so funny. Thank you
A yumytv shout out. its like christmas
Shaman changes... hmm lets see, given the fact that 2 or 3 totems are being moved to be used upon clickin gother ability, I am affraid that this will become a norm, and most of totems will be tied with other abilities... This will seriously make playing SHaman so unfun, yes this will remove some button bloat, but the solution was suppose to be bringing back ability to drop 4 totems at the time...
Love Evi talking about a 'fun tunnel'. 🤣🤣🤣
I dunno, the login screen looks kind of like a vault to me.
Love evi's beta run down best part of the show