THE SHAMAN REWORK IS HERE! (Almost)

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  • The rest of the talents are coming very soon, but the class tree is basically done, so let's check it out!
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  • @omanitoo
    @omanitoo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I was really hoping they got rid of primordial wave on resto, I hate it so much.

    • @adamadamadam83
      @adamadamadam83 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I couldn't agree more!

    • @C3llout
      @C3llout วันที่ผ่านมา

      I dont like Pwave on any of the specs, Im so sick of it.

  • @OriginalMokthol
    @OriginalMokthol 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As much as I would like for Enhancement to have gotten more changes, I'm not surprised it didn't get much. It's in a pretty good spot (though there's always room to improve) and Ele and Resto definitely needed work done. I'm excited to see the trees once they're fully updated.
    The class tree is definitely looking far better now, with the exception of having to take Spiritwalker's Grace in order to get Guidance. I am glad to see Stone Bulwark

  • @Bman24641
    @Bman24641 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Gotta say… pretty underwhelming as enhancement. Idk why I expected a survival-hunter level rework, with maybe a new mastery and some solid defensives. Instead we get, still, encouraged to heal ourselves as a defensive? A totem (2min CD but it’s nice I guess), and still the worst defensive in the game - and essentially ZERO changes in our spec tree. Ughhhhhhhhhh 😢

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Couple things. The shield totem is quite strong. It's giving me shields for 10-15% of my max HP... It refreshs 4 times before it goes away and you can recall it. So you can have shields for a full minute straight. If you're playing Totemic you get another shield on top...
      You can also take Earth Ele and get +15% max HP and 5% DR which used to only be an Ele thing.
      You can also get elemental damage reduction from your Healing stream totem and kick now.
      We also get permanent Windfury + Mastery no matter what build we are running, which will be a boost to our damage.
      Our in combat mobility got boosted with Feral Lunge going baseline. That's a huge deal as there are many mechanics in the dungeons/raid that force you out of melee.
      I agree the Spec tree is underwhelming for sure, but there are lots of reasons to celebrate here

  • @Zikkar
    @Zikkar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    All Lightening build looks very nice with the new stuff

  • @federicorendonacevedo8070
    @federicorendonacevedo8070 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lol the amount of time it took you to realize the rework was applied 😂 loved it

  • @Juiiicer
    @Juiiicer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I will forever want them to make 2H enhance with windfury a thing again.

  • @Sly_404
    @Sly_404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    What a let down for enhance. Moving flurry into the spec tree is putting even more pressure onto points allocation. Enhance is the dps spec with THE most 2-pointer talents (9). The average across all dps specs is 3. The last specs they updated like locks or hunters went down to 2 and 0 2-pointer talents. That also keeps totemic a complete design trainwreck with specific talents linking to abilities you are not able to get into the same talent build.

    • @kalejarmar3187
      @kalejarmar3187 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its confirmed ? Maybe they put it bas3line?

    • @beastlyshotzful
      @beastlyshotzful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kalejarmar3187yeah they confirmed it.

    • @beastlyshotzful
      @beastlyshotzful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, I think they just ran out of time and didn’t want to mess up the tree by allowing more flexibility. But all of this and the stormbringer talents kill the elementalist builds. They need to move ascendance out of the choice node with dre like the other specs got.

    • @kalejarmar3187
      @kalejarmar3187 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beastlyshotzful bah ! We will see the complete p8cture next week . I will still rock the elementalist build

  • @delusion9
    @delusion9 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love you Zuco! I've been waiting for your video on this to drop :)

  • @mathewlarson1677
    @mathewlarson1677 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    all i want is an earth based shaman tank, and I wouldnt play another class...

    • @gohomehero
      @gohomehero 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Preach!

    • @Zikkar
      @Zikkar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Never going to happen

    • @xionsflame1
      @xionsflame1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It always bothered me that didn't make enhance a tank / support class

    • @Rudbeckbitten
      @Rudbeckbitten 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They didnt even need to do much effort to make a sham tank. They could even make it in SoD..

    • @Ty-oe4dr
      @Ty-oe4dr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the closest we can get is aug evoker as a black dragonflight tank but they dropped the ball

  • @captmarvel1967
    @captmarvel1967 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can just imagine the discussion at Blizz. Okay we designed this button right here to activate the Shaman rework so as soon as we are done and have discussed every... Wait who pressed it already! Oh gosh... ima get fired man...

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol exactly

  • @beerexpert1057
    @beerexpert1057 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Stone Bulwark Totem lets go!!! Pro totem juggler shammys gonna have fun in PVP.

  • @wiskeeamazingdancer4964
    @wiskeeamazingdancer4964 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    we basically get 8 extra points to spend in class tree. That is how many 2 pt nodes we had before.

  • @cristianchelaru8053
    @cristianchelaru8053 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wearing a scarf in the hottest summer in the history of the world . Pog 😂

    • @-.-Monster
      @-.-Monster 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      oh wow so im looking at the data to mock your claim and all I'm finding is that finding actual data is borderline impossible.
      So get this right, Nasa was formed in 1958, they're gathering estimated temperatures based on soil samples and the bark of trees for the first 50 or so years to get a sizable past record. They find out that this method doesn't work and all the data is bad but they still publish it. They change the method in the early 2000s but never went back to edit the bunk data? BUT EVEN MORE SO. the method they proved was bunk and didn't work is the same method that was used to catalog the "ages" of the earth.. based on tree rings and sediment build up...
      So they knew the method was bunk.. but our entire understanding of the globe's past climate.. is from that data? Not only that; they still use the bunk data every year when they publish the new data even though they've admitted it's inaccurate.
      WHY IS NASA LYING ABOUT TEMPERATURES? WHAT?
      So i'm looking at it further and notice that they're compiling local news reports of their temperature and making spreadsheets based on that because at the time they didn't have the powerful satellites we have today. There's this entire narrative that they have this deep understanding of the global temperature but they're just compiling local reports and filling in the blanks with the available data.
      But outside of that i found that there was a hotter summer in 1936. based on a news report from california where they had 25 days of 100+ degree weather back to back

    • @seth1665
      @seth1665 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@-.-Monster this is insane and I am going to try to follow the same rabbit hole.

    • @Speknoz
      @Speknoz วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cease your investigations.

  • @GustavoCroisfelt
    @GustavoCroisfelt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nature Swiftness and Spiritwalker still on the tree and both are useless for Enhance.

  • @daltinhorp
    @daltinhorp วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    May the elements guides us! this looks amazing

  • @hectorgarcia9783
    @hectorgarcia9783 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Still need to update our visuals. Normally Id be like okay, they just gave our class a rework, but no, this has been going on since Cata while we watch Warlocks get visual updates every expansion. So better blizz, this has been going on for TOO LONG.

  • @BaldChimpanzee
    @BaldChimpanzee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    After next week, when they fully did the rework, yell loud about primordial wave removal, second iteration of talent tree is going to be most likely the final one.

  • @user-vk8qh7dm3p
    @user-vk8qh7dm3p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blizzard, please delete fu*ing ICE FURY !!!!

  • @Zikkar
    @Zikkar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I look forward to your thoughts on Stormbringer now and a all lightening build since they even said you can go into Lightenjng, Fire, or weave if you want

  • @leeheath1444
    @leeheath1444 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your reaction to the changes 🤣

  • @bengoldsworthy10
    @bengoldsworthy10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think I'm most upset about the nodes going to 1 point. I obviously like that they're 1 point, but if they all get nerfed in half I think that's a pretty big deal. If it's only 3 sec CDR on totems instead of 6. I think the 2% crit to nature is an awful change. I'm also worried about them getting rid of some of the earth shield talents. I think it could make it go from being pretty strong to very meh.

  • @andredesouzadovale1426
    @andredesouzadovale1426 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shaman is going to recieve another rework on next week. The full and complete rework.

  • @KotBlini
    @KotBlini 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    wish they'd give us chain harvest

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed

  • @Applesaus_Games
    @Applesaus_Games 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Flurry wasn't baselined for enhancement. It's in the enhancement tree so now requires a spec point to get it (which enhancement doesn't currently have points to spare)

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We'll see what they do with it. Currently it's not in any talent tree. Even if it does end up on the spec side it won't be the end of the world.

    • @Applesaus_Games
      @Applesaus_Games 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ZucoWoW it's not the end of the world, just a game after all, but the reason the enhancement community is upset is because the main thing these changes 'solve' recreates the same problem again - button bloat and talent point famine to make basic specs function optimally. Fingers crossed there's 2 point reductions in the tree once they update.
      Edit: the spec tree stuff is really good though. Slightly miffed about AG locked behind SWG but as you said in the video, a small inconvenience among a lot of freed up talent points

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Applesaus_Games If/when we see where Flurry ends up on the Enhance spec tree, my opinion might change on this... It could end up bricking some builds

  • @Xtce87
    @Xtce87 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This was a big win for resto/ele. A big L for enhancement :-(

    • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
      @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I wouldn't be so sure.
      Enhancement now has the shielding, and extra and new class talents which are huge.
      You also don't have or need to use primordial wave anymore. And ice strike isn't needed at all.
      Enhancement doesn't really need a huge rework. It just needed a few touches which it gets as a result of what was done to others.

    • @hectorgarcia9783
      @hectorgarcia9783 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@TheRandomDude-qy1ev Not needing primordial wave and ice strike is huge for me!

    • @12Beastn
      @12Beastn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheRandomDude-qy1ev There is very little that can be said to paint what happened (or didn't) to enhance in a positive light. Trying to do so is massive cope. It's embarrassing .

    • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
      @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@12Beastn Sry you feel that way. Hope it somehow works out for you.

    • @12Beastn
      @12Beastn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheRandomDude-qy1ev less of a "feeling" and more of an objective observation based on presented evidence. I'm willing to be proven wrong.

  • @syxqid3818
    @syxqid3818 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The dmg reduce from kick is also a pvp talent. Hope new pvp talents will come. But give me my 2h enhancer back

  • @voljimba2181
    @voljimba2181 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seasoned winds stacks so you can get 45% stable damage reduction in encounters with alot of casters

  • @gohomehero
    @gohomehero 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Idk if I missed it when reading over the notes, but did they really not update the Ascendance model yet?

    • @papa_kez6602
      @papa_kez6602 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No, and they probably won't. I bet they only changed shaman because of the backlash recently, they barley Even changed enhancement

  • @2011manbeast
    @2011manbeast 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow

  • @commonsense82
    @commonsense82 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we compare fire mage defences to elemental now? Is it even Steven?

  • @iarhungry
    @iarhungry 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happy that they're reworking shamans but by christ our hero talents are underwhelming to say the least

  • @CybreSmee
    @CybreSmee วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome. might have to dust off the ol' shammy

  • @mikeftball44
    @mikeftball44 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How is enhance in the best spot? Worst rotation to muddle through now that they fixed survival hunter and elemental shaman is to simple right now. I miss mop shaman so much.

  • @grimmjowthepantera
    @grimmjowthepantera วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enchant have 0 changes or im blind ?

  • @attinger117
    @attinger117 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m not sure I like the defensive improvements they made. They left earth elemental completely alone and instead added another button to hotkey in the bulwark totem. They could have just improved the earth ele.
    Seasoned winds has the potential to be incredibly powerful, but in a dungeon or raid I feel it will have either zero uptime or you will need to communicate with your team to hold stops and interrupts so you can stack it up. This talent made a lot more sense in PvP.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Earth Ele is much more accessible now. It doens't block any other important dps nodes like it used to. It also got the Primordial Bond talent (was an Ele talent) giving you 5% DR on top of the 15% Hp it gives. That plus Astral Shift, plus Ghost Wolf Dr if you want, plus the new totem gives Shaman a much tankier profile.
      As far as the kick damage reduction. You aren't going to organize the group to hold kicks for you. That's just never going to happen in a real key. You just kick what you can and get bonus damage reduction for it.

    • @attinger117
      @attinger117 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ZucoWoW the new bulwark totem could end up being the defensive shaman need. It’s just something I would have put on a list as a way to get the job done. Wowhead calculator has it as a 1 min cooldown now. Can you confirm if it’s 1 or 2 minute cd?

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@attinger117 it's 2 mins right now in game... And lasts for 30 seconds, but who knows, It will prob change.

  • @kalejarmar3187
    @kalejarmar3187 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I dont know why , but I smell shaman tank in Midnight with the bulwark totem and the wind shock thing . They saw what was happening in SoD and they are taking notes . Big hopium but who knows

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They wrote a note at the end of their post on all of the Shaman changes. I think it's VERY interesting...
      "Please note that we intend to continue tuning and iterating on the changes above throughout the Beta, and ***we also have plans for further updates that will come with a future patch in the War Within***"
      To me, this screams something big coming in the War Within. Maybe as big as Augmentation Evoker was. No one thought Augmentation was happening and suddenly it happened. I feel like this quote hints at something similar for Shaman.

  • @OsmozyJonce
    @OsmozyJonce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Need one more damage reduction skill 😢, raid baff is amazing hope shammy take place in raid😊

  • @OmegaSoypreme
    @OmegaSoypreme 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not nearly enough for enhancement. They should make stormstrike and windfury baseline, not talents. Have the tree start with crash lightning, then split off to lava lash one side and ice strike the other. Ice strike leads to all your storm and frost related talents, and lava lash leads to all your fire and earth related talents. Also molten assault needs to fuck off. That needs to just be the basic function of lava lash. Hire me, blizz! I'll knock it out in a day!

  • @andreburnett2849
    @andreburnett2849 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So much for me waiting for an enhancement change lol..slowly becoming the worst melee class in game

  • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
    @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No no no
    Enhance basically got the shaft. AGAIN when I came back I heard they had changed their ways
    NOPE mark my words some one will find a gimmick build that is Ok and then they'll nerf it not to mention PvP . This is just stupid. Enhance better be able to use a 2h or a shield and be effective because these guys are clearly out of ideas. Here's an idea stop using a AI bot to make the spec. Now make sure you articulate your words so AI doesn't miss understand👎🏼 or press 2 to speak to a representative

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Enhance is fine. I've played it a lot in the new expansion. There are multiple builds that work with the Stormbringer tree and a fun new build that works with the Totemic tree.
      We just got Feral Lunge baseline, a new party/raid buff that buffs every single build Enhance runs, and we got multiple new defensive options in the class tree.
      Sure we didn't get new talents like the other 2 specs, but Enhance was doing much better than the other 2 already. There's lots to celebrate for Enhance with this update, we've never been stronger.

  • @-.-Monster
    @-.-Monster 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    people upset about that tier set visual i think it looks perfect for resto. maybe weird for the other 2 but works very well with the water motif of resto.

  • @nrtwitty
    @nrtwitty วันที่ผ่านมา

    All you youtubers throwing around the word rework for the click bait are the reason so many people are mad about the shaman changes. Not a single time did Blizzard say there would be a rework, however, cause you youtubers love saying that word it got everyone's expectations way too high. So of course the changes, not a rework, wasn't enough for this massive toxic community.