**Update!** Tesla (Lars) issued a correction about the wiper power: "Quick correction on that one - my mind was on steering motor power (also enabled by 48V) - the wiper motor is nominally much less in most speeds, peaks around 120W. Not nearly as much, but still enabled by 48V since >100W... imagine that on 12V, the wires would be huge!"
This truck has the lowest drag co of any full size truck. The Rivian is a mid size truck...Cybertruck has the most efficient shape possible, theoretically...
@@robertstojsoh hey everyone! We have an expert here! I would love to see how a child can draw this. But hey what do i know? Youre the expert here im not gonna waste my time with you. Nobody is forcing you to watch this. And even if it looks the way it looks still pleople are surprised to see this truck on streets. There are videos out there to prove you wrong anyway so.. thats enough for me im done talking to you but hey! Next time try to come with something original. Peace
One downside of bare stainless steel with no paint or clear coat: Tesla says that “To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.)" Bare stainless steel can corrode way more quickly than modern painted cars, and we won't know how bad it can get until owners have these for a few years.
FACT! Stainless steel is vulnerable to chlorides; think road salt. Plain old salt (sodium chloride) is a problem, but the sticky magnesium chloride brine they use to pre-treat roads is going to be especially problematic on bare stainless. It doesn't rust, it develops pits and pinholes.
I was just thinking that. Honda did the mechanical rear wheel steering. Regular Car Reviews does a review of the Prelude from that era and focuses on the steering.
Yep. My brother had one. We were in a hurry to catch a train and he chose to take Lower Wacker Drive (you've seen it in the Blues Brothers movie). Doing about sixty, steering with all four wheels, weaving around the girders. Scared the bejeezus out of me.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 You have the option to remove it and use the space for other things, that's great. I had a time once where I had three flats in the same week. I will keep hauling the spare around, preferably a full size spare.
You can use run flat tires. So much more convenient than replacing the tire by yourself. And also consider the weight of the CT tire. Could you even lift it out?
@@andrasbiro3007 Replacing a tire takes minutes. Lifting it out is not an issue for most. Not to mention most trucks lower the spare and have a lifting mechanism for the other way. For those that have trouble call AAA. They change it and you are on your way. Getting towed to a shop and hoping they have or can get your tire in a short period of time works fine in the city, out on the road or offroad is not a solution.
What they should have done about the spare tire if they really wanted to save a buck and think people barely use it is design a compartment where the tire would go under the bed, but sell the tire separately so the compartment can be used for something else if people want.
They want you to pay a monthly subscription to some kind of Tesla Roadside Assistance program - there's a lot more money in that for them than there is in including a spare tire with the truck.
@gorak9000 let's just hope Roadside Assistance can reach people where Tesla says this truck can go. Nothing like popping a tire off the beaten paved path.
I drive 2x more than average and have owned trucks for 45 years. Never, not even once, have I used my spare. Looking at the data, spares are not really needed. This is why most cars don’t bother. If you go off road and want one, you can always buy a jeep style one.
@@solarguy4850 Same here. After 50 years of driving, over a million miles in trucks, not once has a spare ever hit the road. My current truck has 330,000 miles and the original spare still underneath. I keep tire plugs and compressed air onboard. I have had to pull over a time or two and plug a tire then fill it back up, but never has a spare hit the road. Not saying I'm not more comfortable knowing it's there, but I would be alright without. Edit: I should also mention that I do not use cheap or worn tires. Think about the only thing between you and the road going 70 MPH and the only thing holding on while you try to brake and turn.
I recall a Sandy Monroe interview with Tesla engineers that revealed that the conversion to 48V was made necessary by the steering motors - at 12v they could not make the steering motors small enough to fit into the space available for them.
Took them a few years to figure out how to spin it though. It's not like they couldn't do 48v for some stuff and 12 for others, but since Tesla doesn't know what they are doing ever...
@@sprockkets That's not true at all. You would have to do a massive electrical system then, and double the wirering too. How would you have solved it without massive loss in energy from all the conversion of power you would need ? As I would be really pleased if you could explain a way that would make sense. There is a reason nobody has done this before, as it is super hard. When engineers say that it isn't because we don't know how to do it, just that it would be impractical, too expensive or would need new technology to be feasible.
@@-JustHuman-Exactly. Engineering, as in life is full of trade offs. When you hit a brick wall and want to engineer through it, you do it. Kind of like self landing rockets. Because it was necessary to close the business case. Oh, we need 30-ish % more efficient engines? OK.
@@sprockkets I wonder how long it, the battery , would last when using the 240v power circuit. Standard power in a lot of countries is 230-240 VAC, so ...........
@Grauenwolf Not what I said. They exist, but you lose power as a price. And you need it for both systems. If we use your number of 90, that's already a lose of 20% of the power to conversion. You do need 2 sets of wires. That was the whole problem. As a standard, the car industry makes things for 12 colts, not 48v. And you can't run 48 in a 12 v system, if you do it, the otherwise around you would again lose huge amount of energy. Running it in a 48v system saves so much wirering and power in this case. And it makes it possible to do steer by wire.
Although the stainless panels are advertised as tough they won't be immune to the usual dings and scratches over time. I think you'll see a cottage industry of folks who are skilled at burnishing and doing spot repairs.
They're already rusting. Plus, the hoods and doors are sharp enough to cut your fingers (or whole hand) off when closing them, and the hub caps are rubbing the wheels raw; drivers are getting terribly hurt in accidents because they are in a stainless steel cage without proper, shock-absorbing, crumple zones, it probably won't be allowed in Europe because Europeans are smart enough to understand that hitting pedestrians with a stainless steel block is a bad idea ... honestly, the whole thing is a mess. And you can't even sell it if you get one and hate it because Tesla will financially punish you. The whole thing is an absolute disaster.
It’s not, it’s years late and double the price with thinner steel because they screwed up so much with this thing, it’s not revolutionary, it’s unnecessary and useless
An 80s _dystopian_ B movie. It's cognitive dissonance on overdrive that some people's idea of a bright future is a very dark future imagined 40 years ago.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Can you give any examples of that? Of a modern car that resembles a prop from an 80s movie? With the cyber-truck's steel skin and wedge shape, the resemblance to DeLorean's DMC-12 is quite clear, but it's tough to come up with something that fits your analog.
80's CGI movie maybe, even B series movies that used practical effects had more detail to their movies based in the future. Cyberpunk isn't wedges, it is 80's futurism. 80's cars were wedges but theirr trucks were not. I'd argue the Hummer EV is more true to the monicher of a "cybertruck" so cybertruck truck, so 80s futurism trunk, than the actual cybertruck is
I like Rivian's clever design to stow the spare wheel inside the bed. It keeps it clean, out of the way, and it's super easy to access. The tesla with no spare wheel at all is a design failure. Rivian looks great too, the tesla looks like a steel shed.
What if you have a load of stone in the bed of your truck, a load of lumber, or a load of anything? That spare tire is going to be useless unless you unload everything to get to it. It be almost the same as not having one to begin with.
Ha Ha. From time-to-time we'll see abandoned piles of gravel, beauty bark, etc. left on the side of the road. On second thought some of these truck owners never let the rig get dirty so they wouldn't load anything, so those folks won't have a problem.@@jasonstclair6293
@@jasonstclair6293 Part of the reason why some vehicles store it externally, usually under the bed (pickup truck and ute) or body (wagons, minivans, and vans).
@@jasonstclair6293 The reality is that none of these users will ever use it for actually hauling things. I have yet to see a Rivian haul anything. There are even reports of people being afraid to scratch the bed lining. *The bed lining.* On a 'pick-up truck.'
I think the biggest issue with electric towing isn't even the range (which, yeah, is still annoying), but the fact that you can't really charge at all unless you want to fully unhitch your trailer every time you need to. It's crazy that these charging companies (including Tesla) STILL aren't building pull-through charging stations, with very few exceptions.
I've had my first Tesla a bit less than a year---a model Y long distance. In that time I've towed a 7-foot-tall box trailer up and down the Colorado front range three round trips, at 145 miles each way. Being able to make it is the difference between setting cruise control to no more than 60 mph, versus setting it to 65 mph. Of course the usability superchargers has been a _huge_ problem. Maybe as gas stations sell less and less gas, and the land is unusable for anything else (because of buried tanks possibly leaking), Tesla and other companies will start putting Superchargers where the fuel pumps used to be.
The Aztek was just ahead of it's time. It had comically small wheels. It was a good idea ruined by trying to make into an econobox. It wouldn't have been laughed at so much if the capability matched the look, and the vibe of accessory tent.
I think this is the best, most balanced and factual review I have seen of the Cybertruck. There are lots of passionate opinions about this one, but this review stuck to information we can use. This is why I subscribe to the channel.
Did noone else noticed how he just handwaved away the indicator lights not always working when he pressed the button? Is "Indicators may not work" not a roadworthiness failure in the USA?
@@dancooperish Apparently he is high up on Elon's list of first astronauts to step foot on Mars. He is given some leeway. Just use hand signals if the indicators don't work. No biggie. What he really failed to mention is how easy it is to harness a team of horses to the truck as a back up plan.
I don't agree because a proper review of a truck involves using it as a truck. Those who have done so have found that it sucks as a truck and gets stuck in the snow, and eats the tires, and gets 100 miles on a charge. So not a real truck,,,
Shout out to the 1988 Honda Prelude Si 4ws. First production car with 4 wheel steering. It was a budget car that slalomed faster than anything else at the time. 80s Hondas were so fun to drive
The Honda Prelude Si 4ws cost a small fortune to keep on the road.... 1980's Honda's were garbage, I know I have serviced them. My favorites are the pressed on brake rotors, the Hondamatic Semi automatic transmissions that lasted about 30k miles between rebuilds, the manual transaxles that started losing gears by 100k and the Honda Civic 1200 Aluminum engine that cracked within 20k miles... Face it they were disposable... I did manage to buy a Civic 1200 with 40k miles after it blew its second engine and I stuffed a prelude engine in it...
@@davidhollenshead4892 I said fun, not reliable. But since you brought it up, Honda was the second most reliable car company of the 1980's behind Toyota. Relative to other '80s cars they were of relatively great quality. Yes they were disposable, but they were commuter cars. I had an 85 Accord and an 89 CRX (135k & 175k miles at sale), my college girlfriend had an 89 Prelude SI 4WS (over 100k miles). None of them ever required any work other than regular maintenance. The only people I knew that had the kind of problems you mentioned didn't change their timing belts. Interference motors don't like that and bend valves when the belt/chain breaks. I learned how to rebuild a head when my friend learned that the hard way with his Integra
@@RotoRCol there was already a road incident. A Corolla crashed into a Cybertruck and was pretty much destroyed, while the truck just had a few pieces of its fender damaged.
Great how is it at pulling an 11000 lb trailer with horses from one farm to another? How is it at hauling hay? My diesel will pull them for nearly 700 miles and when I run low on fuel I do not have to drop my trailer. But when I'm not hauling or towing I grab my car and use it as a car.
@EngineeringExplained I think we should try to normalize presenting CdA in the same breath as discussing Cd. As vehicles get bigger and (especially) wider, just talking about Cd leaves out a very important aspect of vehicle design and efficiency.
@@tewrgh I think of it of an 'institutionalization' of the concept that bigger is inherently better. As someone who lives in an old (for North America) city, with narrow residential streets, I appreciate the downsides of 'bigger' more than most.
But compared to other full size pickups it's useful. I agree, just multiply it by the frontal area and get something you can compare a space shuttle to a bicycle. That said the Cybertuck is really close to a ICE Ram which is pretty disappointing. I imagine the EV Ram is going to beat it soundly not having all the cooling openings.
@@wemakecookieThe acidity will discolour it just like any SS (including your stove or fridge). It's purely cosmetic but it's bare SS so something to keep in mind if your don't like blemishes.
Counter to the trend I think he has the opposite going on. He has so much excited knowledge to share that he doesn’t want to keep us for too long. But still wants to share it all. Really scratches my brain itch
@@EngineeringExplainedha ha. I am used to your content being more analytical this content did not discuss any of the safety concerns that prevent this truck in current configuration being sold in the EU. Nor did you mention this vehicle was allowed to self certify and has not had independent crash testing or any other independent testing of any real rigor.
Other vehicles with two windshield wipers have windshield motors that use 50W or so each. Maybe for something large, around 100W. So that giant one is 1/10 as effective as just having two of them, as well as it being more expensive to replace. 1kW of power just for that thing? It's insane! Edit: I see that was already corrected as wrong. Makes a lot more sense
One of the biggest misses for me (one of many) is that the rearview camera feed is still in the damn dash instead of up in the actual rearview mirror location, where they should've always been from the start.
But there's no first principle reason why the rearview mirror should be where it always has been. Tesla's thinking is that if a functionality is the way it is purely out of historical inertia (customer habit), and there are savings to be made by not putting in additional screens and pulling unnecessary wiring, then they're going to make an effort to usher in that change. To give you an exaggerated example, imagine if the ignition button of a modern car sat by the front bumper, and the reason why is because cars used to have hand cranks there 100 years ago. That just wouldn't fly.
It is one of the bigger issues with this car. The back camera is horrible in low light and looking down to your right is not great. There really should be a smaller screen behind the steering wheel.
Tens of millions of trucks, Fire Engines, brush rigs, log trucks, ambulances, power utility vehicles, over-landing rigs, military vehicles , dump trucks, jets, planes, helicopters, ships, boats, submarines and delivery vans don't have any direct sightline out of the back window and that's been working well for over 100 years.
@@dvader3263 Yeah... and they are operated by trained (mostly) professionals with CDL's and pilot's licenses. Not dickheads that managed to drive around the block without killing anyone to get their license. It's a false equivalency. That said, the rearview mirror fell off the windshield of my '95 Yukon back in the day and I never had a problem (though I did occasionally miss the additional situational awareness running down the interstate). Even with the barn-doors in the back, it still had better rear visibility than most vehicles in any class that are currently in production.
Halfway into the video i realized this guy is filming all of his explanation while driving! And, he's still doing an excellent job going into all the details.
My biggest concern for the Cybertruck , Rivian and many ICE vehicles is the cost of mechanical and structural repair cost . There was a horror story here in Canada where the Hyundai battery cost was 60k which is 5k more than a brand new replacement of the complete vehicle . Ball joints and tie rods are far more economical a repair and diagnostic of them far easier than electric steering .
No it's not. The engine does not cost 60% of the vehicle cost. Manufacturers don't make spare battery packs to go on the repair shelf because they are too expensive. It's a factory order part if you can get it. The manufactures know lithium is in short supply and only want to build new cars with batteries and not buid spares. So when a battery pack is 'damaged' they quote ridiculous prices and the car is written off. Then the insurance company pays out and insurance premiums go up on everyone to cover the cost. @@wannabewallaby1592
@@wannabewallaby1592 , In the case of the Ionic it doesn’t cost 5 k more than the car to replace an engine on an ice car . On any E car with the floor being the battery it is easy to damage hitting a road hazard . Plenty of Ice cars have some kind of undercarriage scars to attest to the risk . It’s not as rare as you think as the Rich Rebuilds channel will attest to .
@@mezzb Meh. It's like exchanging BBQ propane bottles at the gas station. It's random and you might get an old ass bottle. Or in this case old stale batteries when you bought new batteries. This would only work if they sell you the car battery-less and then you get a monthly battery swapping "subscription".
Biggest gain from high voltage (800V battery) architecture is going to be charging efficiency. Being able to save 2% when charging with 800V vs 400V on a 140kW battery means I don't have to pay for that extra 11kw of power that gets lost to heat when charging. Coming from the energy storage sector, there is a reason why a lot of grid tie energy storage systems are using 1000V battery architecture and some are pushing to 1500V. It is all about that I2R loss. Reduction in power loss should be 4.6kWh not 11kWH, see explanation below. Thanks Jason for calling me out on this :)
1) 2% improvement is number we used to justify going from 480V to 1000V architecture. You can find online documentation and see a 1% improvement going from 210V to 480V on the inverter. 1000V systems go up to 98.4% efficiency. Check out EPC power inverters. 2) Bad math or typo on my part. Using real numbers. 140kWh/96.3=145.4kWh, 140kWh/98.4=142.3kWh thus a savings of 3.1kWh for just the inverter. With that reduction comes a equivalent reduction in thermal load thus the thermal management system (using a COP of 2) can save 3.1/2=1.55kWh. For a total system savings of 4.6kWh. Jason, great content, and thanks for catching my math error (a little embarrassing for a engineer)
I agree with you (18:00) that all vehicles should have a spare wheel/tire -- or at least the *option* for one (i.e., a dedicated space somewhere in the rear, or in the frunk in a BEV, for one) -- meaning that people could opt to not the spare and use that circular storage space for other storage, but that they could also later opt to buy a spare wheel/tire and have a hidden place to store it if they so choose.
Pretty sure someone will come up with a fastener for a sparetire somewhere hanging off the back or something (like a jeep) Then you have to get the tire...but that's a minor inconvenience, and hopefully you'll never need it
Yeah and even worse, the ones that don't come with spares usually have the fix a flat cans which almost guarantees that a tire that might have been repairable now has to be replaced. None of the tire shops I've dealt with will even touch a tire that has had fix a flat sprayed into it, because once it's cured, it can not easily be removed and messes with the weight balance of the tire.
The bmw mini doesn’t have one and there solution is to put very expensive and hard to get run flat tires. This Tesla may have something similar. It’s quite annoying when you want to go replace your what you would expect to be under $100 tire for something much more because they didn’t want to put a spare.
The first buyers of a cybertruk will call someone and the tow company will know there is no spare and a town truck will fetch it after the owner has been Uber Black driven away. That is how Porsche, BMW, etc., etc. Get dealt with, even if there is a spare.
And you’ve had to change a spare last, when ? So you want something that people use maybe every 10 years. I’ve never changed a tire on the side of the road for the last 28 years
Ive never owned a car without a spare tire. Sometimes I go years without needing it, but sometimes the roads are bad and I need it several times a year.
@@esaedvik Having had a few flats over the past 40+ years, every time it was faster, sometimes _much_ faster, to swap w/my spare and get back on the road. The last time, just after pulling over, I texted the person I was meeting telling them I would be about ten minutes late -- and that was, in the end, how long it took for me to swap and get back on the road. Admittedly if one isn't facile with tools and lives in an urban area, they are likely better off calling the tow service and either waiting or telling the tow service where the key is hidden and getting an Uber to wherever one is going.
It's an unfortunate trend, but not something Tesla started. Smart cars don't have spares either. Just a bottle of specialty gunk and an inflator. Plus, the tires are different sizes between front and back, and have to be special ordered. Efficiency through lightness can go too far. What's almost as annoying are cars with the donut style spares. Those often have a max speed of 35mph, incredibly high pressures, and are almost never actually maintained.
Even my corolla I ultimately ended up with a full size spare since those donuts don't really last beyond 10 years. Lose a little trunk space, but worth it for a full size spare. And of course my Tacoma has a full size spare, even when I upped the tire size, I bought 5 tires so my spare matches my upgraded regular tires.
Don't worry about the spare tire and being stranded... If you light it on fire it'll burn for days to keep you warm and act as a distress marker for passing aircraft. Just one of the innovative features built into the vehicle.
Dang! I'm halfway through video right now and I've learned more about the Cybertruck and features from EE than from 10 other videos I've watched including a video with the designer and engineer that produced Cybertruck. Well done and interesting video as usual EE. Thank you
Then you didn’t watch (or pay attention to) the Hagerty video. Jason Cammisa talked about all this, and more. For instance, he also mentioned the new network system Tesla put in this. Also, I have to disagree that 48 volts isn’t new. No one has ever put it in a production car before. Not for the entire low voltage system.
@@jayjohnson3732just so you’re aware, Tesla definitely innovated on the 48V front. That said, plenty of other cars have 48V systems, and Tesla’s entire system is not 48V. For example, the speakers are 24V. I believe there are numerous other examples, but Tesla was a bit vague in messaging.
@@EngineeringExplained I’m aware that other vehicles have “48 volt systems”, but my understanding is the use of 48 volts is confined to specific, and isolated systems, like rear wheel steering for instance. No one else has implemented it vehicle wide. With respect to the speakers, I *think* that is because they are basically part of the vehicle data network, and not wired directly from a head unit, as is traditional. I remember hearing one of the engineers telling Sandy Munro that they were in effect a network component. I could be wrong.
15:37 The exterior might be resistant to dents, but despite being 'stainless' steel, it is still more vulnerable to everyday corrosion (road salt, bug splats, etc.) than normal steel panels that are dipped and painted.
Resistant to dents against anything it hits. Pedestrians, for example. And any other traffic participant. To me, aside from all the cool technology, this is a car that screams "I only care about me".
I agree on the spare situation. We’ve had too many blowouts that required use of the spare to get to shop for replacement tire. Guess the cybertruck will live in cities, so roadside assistance can tow it to a shop easily enough. Rural areas need spare tires though.
As someone who jogs in the city, I'm terrified of this vehicle. It's incredibly tall with poor viewing angles, and the cameras in the best conditions do not show pedestrians well. In road brine situations I have no idea how people will see out the rear of their vehicle
Rural areas need spare tires and....chargers. If you're going offroad into the great wide open of the USA where civilization isn't, good luck with charging.
One of many problems with stianless steel, is even tho its stronger, its more prone to getting permanently dented, even from just a sudden change in temperature. Like leaving a garage in a freezing winter Also parts like the bumper are actually attached under stress, so if one of the clips fail, the bumper might fly out Also a rigid car is **not** safer. Sure the car itself might not take much damage in a crash, but this means that squishy body of yours is responsible for absorbing most of the impact. An airbag can only do so much if you only have a crumple zone the size of a shoebox
Steer by wire. It's completely safe, there are multiple layers of redundancy. Proceeds to list 18 sensors and motors that can fail. This sounds expensive. A steering rack costs $50 and is a proven 100 year old technology.
Weak arguments, yet again. Air cooled piston-engine powered airplanes were decades old "proven technology" as well, but we moved on to turbines. It turned out fine. In fact much better. The airliners you and I travel in all use fly-by-wire. When was the last time an airliner's "fly-by-wire" system failed??? Stop being scared.
@@themapmaker5374 Smartlynx training flight on 28th of Feb, 2018 in Estonia almost lost total flight control systems due bad programming and the very unusual use case of the aircraft for touch and go trainings. This was the first time this bug in programming was found since the 80s when Airbus FBW (regarded as the unfaillable gold standard of FBW) was first introduced. Shows you that 0.0000001% chance of smt happening is not 0. Combination of great airmanship by the training captains, some low level mechanical backup (mechanical pitch trim) and a bit of luck saved the 6 lives onboard the training flight. Check out Mentour Pilot's recent video about this, he covers it really well.
My brother in christ that’s an airplane that gets taken apart every so often for maintenance. Also the cost is a huge influence, I’ve seen people have their cars repossessed because they didn’t want to spend the money to fix something simple but expensive.
@@themapmaker5374 Dude, you're comparing a navigation system on a plane that costs hundreds of millions to one that's in a 100k disposable car. Start being scared and stop buying crap
A truck made by engineers, I have to think of the Maverick. The wheel wells lining up with a second catch on the tailgate lowering for fitting 4x8 plywood? I am mad at how obvious that is and how I would have never thought of that. Also jealous that it gets more MPG than my fit. For steer by wire; that thing must make for a great game controller for Assetto Corsa! And I agree with your assessment of the safety implications. So many thing are electronic, and assuming that electricity=bad is like assuming electronic fuel injection is unreliable. A video about using an EV for powering a home would be a great video! It would really put into perspective the amount of energy that an EV has.
Thank you for your unbiased perspective. I was disappointed that the undervault storage doesn’t fit a spare tire. Perhaps someone will make a real range extender that could be housed in the undervault storage.
Well, the new generation of drivers won't even consider changing a wheel. This vehicle is adapted to the future generations (pussies) I think this is just a cool urban truck, just to show off.
@@kameronmyles2013 nah the titanic builders clearly knew their stuff, titanic’s older sister ship olympic went on to have a long and storied career. titan on the other hand, the whole design itself was already a big red flag.
I feel that the real test the Cybertruck will have to face is reliability in what trucks are usually supposed to do. i.e. heavy cargo, towing, off-roading, etc.
@@Roger_Ramjettrue but those of us that use trucks will not buy this midlife crisis mobile. Both my trucks have trailers on them when they leave my property. Moving hay or horses or gravel or other livestock
The main purpose of going 48V is not to increase efficiency for more range, it is to reduce materials in fabrication thinner wires means not just less copper, but less of every other supporting materials including mounting/routing hardware, connectors, etc. 1/4 of the copper per vehicle ... it adds up to massive savings in the production. Easier repairs ... etc. etc.
We need to remember that the current iteration of the classic pick-up truck is the result of over a century of design and engineering evolution. A LOT of things were tried - some more successfully than others - until we got to what we have today. The Cybertruck is not a product of that evolution. For me, the tech and the design just aren't mature enough (yet) to consider purchasing one. After having looked at what it has to offer, I have the feeling this is what you get when you let people who have little or no expertise in designing a pick-up truck design a pick-up truck. Frankly, my truck needs are pretty non-negotiable so I think I'll wait a while until the evolution of the Cybertruck moves it quite a bit further forward.
Wow, Jason, driving for 26 minutes with no stop-and-go traffic. How refreshing. Great video! Still don't want to try and haul a full-size truck around Los Angeles anymore, but very in-depth.
Thanks for this. I grew up in Belton and instantly recognized the hills and live oaks and assumed it was close to Austin. Just couldn’t figure out exactly where.
@@jabadoo5307 I only knew the trees and wanted to drive on the road. I waited until i found a sign, and googled it. I knew it would be in my area somewhere.
My biggest issue with my Model Y is no spare. It has the space for it. There is a space under the boot that with a little bit of adjustment would fit a full size spare. To not have a spare for the Cybertruck is crazy.
How many people keep their spare tire in shape, ready to go? I have found the 2x my friends needed their donut spare, it was not worthy of the road and they didn't have the tire pump to make it so, so AAA was needed both times. It's unnecessary weight + space 99.9% of the time. I think it should be an option and fit better somewhere though, not a complete afterthought. For me though, I do not need to carry a spare and won't bother with my EVs. I do check the tires, rotate them 2x a year, replace before they are unsafe, etc.
@@whattheschmidt I would hope most people keep their spare tire in shape, I sure do. If you rotate tires 2x a year then you only have a unfit spare if you really want it to be unfit.
@lcg3092 my point though is I bet over 80%do not keep it in shape. My tire rotations are because I have a winter wheel set. It's awesome swapping them out myself in my driveway and knowing everything is done right and torqued right.
I didn’t realize until this video that you’re in ATX. Love Lime Creek Rd, I’m out there on my bike all the time. Love the channel, keep up the good work!
west of Byran, N of Huston, and westerly to sequin. Love traveling these roads in spring and fall with top down or motorcycle. Props to anyone riding with pedals in the summer. Even with more and more sprawl the vistas and design choices of homes are scenic (italian even) there are quite alot of grape orchards.
Nice review. I have a 2023 Model S and have totally gotten used to the haptic turn signal buttons. I am so used to it that now when I drive another vehicle I'm like: "WTF? I have to take my hand off wheel to set blinker?!?!?" Turn signal stalks (or stalks in general) are just a legacy of old design. The choice to put it on the wheel makes much more sense and it is pretty easy to get used to.
I'm a bit offended I drive this road everyday and have never seen a cybertruck in real life and here's my favorite car channel driving one on this road 🤣
@@apostolakislthanks! Former Austinite here and this entire video I've been distracted by the passing scenery, saying to myself, "is that central Texas? Is it? That really looks like central Texas, but I don't know..." 😝
@@jacob_tung Yeah. I was watching the video for the first few minutes thinking, boy, that stuff looks so familiar, then I saw a few business signs and realized exactly where it was. And I am pretty sure I have seen that exact cybertruck driving down Bee Caves Rd a couple times. I need to pull up my camera footage on my car and see if the temp tags in the window match.
Maybe it is just a mechanical engineer thing, but i still trust a steering column more than redundant electronics. Steel has been studied for much longer, we understand it's reliability better and it does not get bad over time as electronics do. Especially considering i live in brazil where the average age of cars on the road is 10 yo, i wouldn't trust a 10 yo steer by wire system.
@@TheGeekPub yes, but airplanes go through much more strict preventive replacement of parts and maintenance. Most owners don't maintain their car like they should.
@justinmallaiz4549 never said i am anti-technology, i work in software development. And if my phone breaks, it won't kill me or anyone near me, no need to be extra safe with phones. I think it's good to be extra safe in a heavy and fast car like this
Regarding mild bullet resistance, I would guess that it is probably more or less impervious to hollow point handgun ammunition. I'm not sure what would happen with ball ammo fired head on, and anything from a rifle is gonna need to hit at an angle to not penetrate.
15:39 Oh, and rain. Apparently I can't handle rain. Probably why they didn't secure that big ass ugly wiper on. But when it falls off, you can put it in the trunk to keep your accelerator pedal company. If the hood doesn't cut your finger off first
I don’t understand why trucks have such tall cabs. It adds a lot of frontal area (>>drag), and thus heavily affects range. Plus it makes it harder to carry long objects over the cab. Electric trucks should look like small trucks from the 1980s.
Well, you could change your question to "why do trucks even exist"? Because Muricans like to spend ungodly amounts of money on big fat things. 99% of all people's needs are met by a mid-size sedan or wagon. Anything bigger or more powerful than that comes down to "because I like it and will spend money on it".
Because tall cabs are roomy. Literally no difference from suv's, they just sit higher. My truck is great, I use it where needed, and drive my model y or other cars, when commiting or doing things that don't need the truck. Everyone's use case is different, not everyone buys them to just show off.
@@michaelhess4825Not everyone, but I’d wager 98% of them are buying so they “feel safer/I’d like to see over the traffic/I feel more respected by other vehicles if I am in a truck/it looks cool” etc, etc.
Really ever have a caliper break off your car, brake line fail, get hit by an 18 wheeler leaving it's lane, a truck with 4 horse trailer lose traction in an ice storm going down hill. No? A tie rod is basic.
Honestly for the most part is seems like a bunch of compromises just to be different. Like form over function. Some features are pretty good though - reminds me of the Honda ridgeline. Ppl either loved or hated it. I had one, it was the most convenient truck I’ve ever owned - towed my 21’ liberator 460 no problem, decent fuel mileage, never had to concern myself w 4wd it just did it, and got over 409k km on it before we finally retired it, trouble free.
The ridgeline had issues with gen 1 - it sucked as a truck because it was hard to sideload due to the weird bed shape. Gen 2 they made it flat like a normal truck and it became more popular.
And just like a Ridgeline, if you showed up to a job site with one, you'd be clowned and never hear the end of it. It really is just gimmicky and that's not what people want when the buy a work truck.
@@matthemberry agreed re cyber truck. And I did get flack on the ridgeline with some truck guys. But the thing was just so well designed with thoughtful features (trunk in bed, flat bed, tailgate opens two ways, awd, etc). And so damn reliable. They should have marketed it as a mid size truck, not full size. It would have been accepted more and it’s kinda in between. Since then I’ve had a 2017 f150, a 2020 Silverado and just got a 2024 Silverado - all for work. The ford and Chevy both had a host of problems including engine seals, burning oil etc. the 2024 is ok so far lol.
Drive by wire. It has redundancy upon redundancy. "Just pull over and wait for a tow truck." Ok,I can't pull over! Truck bed. Should added hydraulics. Since there is little access to the entire bed. The shape lends to a dump truck. They nailed it. Few pickup truck drivers use the vehicle as a working vehicle. They like the look or the height afforded. I have a neighbor. He has a factory lifted 4x4 crew cab. It's a '23. It beautiful. He doesn't so much as put a cup of coffee in the bed. He does have boat. Yet he might tow the boat a handful of times a year. So the Tesla pickup is for folks like my neighbor. He doesn't honestly need a truck. He likes them.
One utility I am disappointed was dropped from the 2019 reveal is the built in ramp to the bed. A cooler full of ice and food is heavy. Or when I took my snow blower to be repaired, or my compressor, rigging up a stretch of road bank as a loading dock meant shovelling flat a huge snow bank first. The ramp would be a big help.
I appreciated an analysis that wasn't a just memes dunking on it for being Elon's or an EV. My biggest complaint from afar is that some bits seem really unnecessarily cheap for what is already an expensive vehicle. The doorcards and dash look more at home on a Daewoo Matiz or geo metro than a vehicle that costs as much as a house. The XL wiper also seems less effective than 2 normal wipers, and a round steering wheel, though more boring, still seems like a better option.
Don't think having huge battery packs in the vehicle itself for towing is the future. For those who tow long distances regularly, batteries will be in the trailer as well. Also much more attention will be made to trailer aerodynamics. Charging stations will be configured to charge both the truck and trailer at the same time. Some spatial standardization across brands is needed to make this work. When the trailer is not working it could be used as a virtual power station, pulling power during low demand and pushing power back in during high demand. Look for huge innovation going forward. There is one new RV (forget the name), that has a battery which also drives the wheels extending range.
@@TruthFiction There could also be trailers which use fuel-based generators for range extension. When an engine can be designed to run at a single load and power level it can be made simpler and more efficient than a standard automotive engine. They could also use other technologies like fuel cells.
Its 6,600-6,800# per other shared screenshots of cybertrucks reviews, the rivians weigh over 7,000 not the ct. Same weight as the top trim lightnings and a loaded ram trx.
@coolcat23 lmfao have you looked into this at all???? The cybertruck does have crumple zones. Who knows if you're one of those with ulterior motives trying to spread negative propaganda or just such a simpleton that you believed those who said it doesn't have crumple zones.
@coolcat23 lmfao have you looked into this at all???? The cybertruck does have crumple zones. Who knows if you're one of those with ulterior motives trying to spread negative propaganda or just such a simpleton that you believed those who said it doesn't have crumple zones.
Good review. Another advantage of 48V vs 12V systems (5:15) is the operation of the Auto Stop (A) function, On 12V, you can feel a "Jolt" every time Auto Stop is engaged. On 48V systems, is seamless.
It's the same as with energy consumption, it has such a small impact that it can be neglected. If weight were important to them, they could get a lot more out of other areas. The decision not to include a spare wheel alone makes a bigger impact in terms of weight
I think the biggest advantage of a 48V system is cost saving. Normal cars has hundreds of meters of electrical wiring running in looms. These has to be manufactured and installed. If I am correct the Cybertruck uses ethernet cables. Cheaper and quicker to install than a bulky wiring loom, but when Sandy Munroe takes one apart we will get all the answers.
No scartches wont show up easily because stainless steel is hard while paint is soft. I dislike the cybertruck but the stainless steel is the best part about it. Though the difficulty of working stainless steel is ultimately the reason for its weird shape.
Stainless steel is great until you get it dented. You can’t repair a dent and you need to replace whole panel. Better hope it isn’t a structural part or it will be very expensive repair.
Both paint and steel, including stainless, scratch easily. Aluminum is soft but its oxide (same chemical compound as sapphire) is very hard. A ball of aluminum foil that’s oxidized will leave a mess of scratches in stainless. Al2O3 is what is used in scrubbing pads or sponges not meant for use on non-stick cookware. So, someone with a heavy duty Scotch-Brite sponge can really mess up that brushed stainless finish. A scratch in stainless will take more work to buff out as you can’t use a light filler as you can with paint. Just consider it adding to the “character”.
My 2012 Sonic LS has electric power steering that seamlessly, perfectly changes turning ratio according to speed. However, the steering wheel is still directly connected. There is peace of mind in that.
When you wrote this comment you forgot that while losses increase with the square of current, resistance increases as a linear inverse of the cross sectional area of wire used. So in his example, unless you use a gauge of wire with 1/16th the cross sectional area, you'll still come out ahead, even with the (very slightly) increased resistance. There's also the fact the wires are copper, so the resistance is not that high to begin with, plus the fact they're only like, ten to twenty feet long. So a slight increase in the resistance of the wires - and it will be very, very slight in absolute terms - will still be more than offset by the lower current.
@@rdormer diameter is constant in regards to radius so it doesn't change the square relationship with the area. That's still within what you said (I might have not made it clear), the resistance increases linearly with the inverse of area increase (i.e., decreases), which is still a square decrease with the diameter increase (which has a constant ratio with the radius). As far as wiring is concerned, the diameter is typically the relevant measure since they're approximately cilindrical.
How predictable is this variable and dynamic steering ratio in critical scenearios when you need to quick movements, like in moose test. Does it overshoot more than you expect?
About the same as trying to find the correct accelerator pedal position on a traction-limited emergency (i.e. don't want braking or accel). Can't easily find that position in a one-pedal-driving set-up.
Safety concerns should get more focus I think. Is this thing even legal in Europe? Triangular stainless steel hitting pedestrians sounds like a worse time than most other vehicles. No crumple zones sounds like a recipe for injured drivers after collisions. If the windows are too tough, the driver would be in a _lot_ of trouble if the battery caught fire (when the doors don't work, you need to be able to kick out the wind shield or a window to escape!).
I don't understand the exitement about the variable steering ratio. Mechanical steering also comes with variable steering ratio. There are a lot of cars out there that have it. My car - not an expensive one - changes the steering ratio depending on the speed of the car but also on the angle of the steering wheel itself. It's much more intuitive than it sounds. Because the last x percent of the steering angle is only used when parking so it totally makes sense to increase the sensitivity even more in that range.
@@AtlasJotununsure how his s2000 would be a variable ratio edition. Believe they’re confined to the Type V variant which is jdm market only - meaning RHD cars
My thought on a full-size spare tire is a $7 *tire plug kit* from an auto store and an $13 Temu electric tire pump will get you out of 90+% of flat tire situations! Especially if it's just to get to the next repair shop or to home. I've been driving with a plug in two tires for years.
Typically those tire plug kits spray product inside the tire such that it can never be repaired. You can get home and buy a new tire. Wait, that’s not really fair because you’ll probably have to buy two or four tires so that the wear is even.
@@JoeOvercoattire plug kits do not spray anything inside the tire. They are just a tool for reaming out the hole, and then a plug soaked in rubberized tar of some description that goes into that hole. You're thinking of fix-a-flat type products, which indeed are a pain in the ass for the tire shop if you use them, and will often lead to them telling you you have to trash the tire.
I appreciate the fact that you think tesla is the one that created these technologies and they are not the tried and failed experiments of legacy car mfgs.
Not only does it tow short distances but you have to remove the trailer to charge every time. You're adding an extra hour to a 300 mile trip and getting out to unhook and hook the trailer 3 times assuming there is space to even do that. If you're towing something like a boat in your garage, 40 miles away to a lake and returning home for charging, you may be fine. Going back and forth to home depot, not so bad. Counting on the charging network in tow should be a very rare consideration, knowing the time and hassle.
I hook/unhook my trailer 2 or 3 times per day often and that ends up costing me 5 or 6 hours easily. (or maybe it was 5 or 6 minutes, I can't rightly recall)
I have a Jeep Wrangler Sport that I use for both street and off-road driving. After carrying around a spare for years in all situations I decided to stop carrying a spare except when off-roading. When I did carry a spare it was on a custom structure attached to the roll bars holding the spare up high. Even an extra 40 lbs or so up high made the Jeep rock from side to side too much when off roading. Now, when I am going off road I use a hitch mounted wheel carrier and remove it when back in town.
Genuine question: how well would a appropriate tire repair kit and 12v powered air compressor to inflate work for off-road. From my understanding the tires are tougher and usually not super high pressure. What is the typical failure mode for tires in off-road? And could they be repaired?
@@thorwaldjohanson2526 As long as it's not sidewall damage you can repair anything, but I expect the damage will relate to the off roading you do. Driving through sand probably no issues, but rocky terrain seems far more likely for something to puncture the sidewall.
The electric steering may not fail mechanically, but what happens when the sensors disagree (a la Boeing) or there is a bug in the software that says what steering ratio to use at a certain speed?
@@etienneprinsloo6799the 35k ft drop is a safety feature, not a bug. I'm not even kidding. If things go wrong on an airliner at cruising altitude, they have not only a lot of time to fix it before SHTF, but also a lot of altitude that can be traded for gliding distance in the worst case. In a car, however, a catastrophic steering failure may well have you killed in mere seconds.
Cybertruck is cool, I've had a reservation for what, over 4 years now. I've also had a Rivian R1T for over 25k miles now. I haven't driven the Cybertruck yet, but I think the Rivian will still be my preferred pick...better visibility, my Quad is super fast and I got at Original pricing...better storage and something many forget, Rivian has a great suspension with the air and hydraulic roll control. Sometimes it looks like the Cybertruck is tipping over in corners. The Rivian is the EV Sport's Truck if you like driving.
Liked the review, but it seems like you forgot to mention the Etherloop that replaced the old CAN bus for the communication inside the vehicle. Franz said, you could hook up a laptop to it, open Wireshark and monitor the whole communication in the car. Suppose its not that easy but from an engineering / computer science standpoint its quite interesting
I've been a mechanic for 25 years, and I think this is one of the most exciting advancements I've seen in a long time. This is going to make diagnosing failures much faster and way more accurate, and will literally reduce the amount of wiring in a vehicle by 90+%.
All car manufacturers are moving in this direction. CAN bus in the automotive industry is dead. Ethernet standards like 10BASE-T1S, 100BASE-T1 and 1000BASE-T1 single pair Ethernet will be in every car soon.
Why couldn’t you just hook up a laptop and look at the CAN messages? 😂 No conceptual difference except likely harder with Ethernet in practice. Also plenty of CAN still used inside Cybertruck, just Ethernet to some modules and then CAN from those to others. Also gigabit ethernet is already used in many other vehicles and has been for some time.
Great video as always. Thanks for that. I generally trust technology, so drive by wire doesn't concern me. Yes, sometime down the road, after hundreds of thousands of Cyber trucks are on the road, someone will lose their life in an accident due to steering loss and that issue will be blown way out of proportion from what the probabilities actually are. Anyway, my biggest concern, living in Canada, is how that massive windshield wiper will hold up when the truck is covered with crusty snow or ice.
Good point. I didn't think of that. That brings me to another point then. In the dead of winter when it's -25 degrees outside, does warming up the interior and defrosting the windshield before heading out, have significant impact on the range? Does keeping the interior warm while driving also have significant impact on the range, or is all of that insignificant?
There's a lot of technology on modern cars but two features that I'm eager to get on a car are a fingerprint scanner on the start/stop button and screens on the A pillars to cancel the blind spots
You mean the B pillars? You should not have any issue with blindspots with A pillars on any car. If you do you probably should not be driving. Why one earth would you want a biometric scanner in your car? You could easily bypass it like you can on phones.
@@corail53 it depends on the car, I had a Ford Focus and the drivers A pillar created a pretty big blind spot. I drive a Mercedes V Class and it has a very thick A pillar. The fingerprint scanner to start the engine like you unlock a phone
@@corail53Model 3 owner. And the A-pillar on that is already obstructive. The last bend before my home is exactly the radius that cars coming the opposite direction are invisible at corner entry. I drive left bends with my head moving side-to-side like a loon to make sure I can negate the effect.
@@robbybobbyhobbies Newer vehicles do have larger pillars, because there are airbags hidden in them. It's a small tradeoff to keep from bouncing your head off the pillars in an accident.
While I get the reactions to both the stalks and the spare tire. I'll have to say I do NOT miss stalks one bit. The execution of the haptic buttons is excellent and really shows how unnecessary stalks are, and they only exists because we got used to them. With the spare tire, I had a Tundra for a decade. I NEVER used the spare. I even had to buy a new one after 8 years because I checked the spare and it rotted and was no longer holding air. If you have to use a spare once in a decade, then why carry it around for all those other days? We're not in the oldie days. If you're really worried, have one in the garage, and get an uber to go and collect it and install. If you're away form home, get a tow to a tire shop and get a new tire. Yes, there may be a bit more inconvenience, and some time 'wasted', but that is once, in a decade. (I am assuming you are not flat tire prone)
Regarding the steer by wire technique. Are there any markings on the components indicating who the supplier of the technology is or whether tesla developed it itself? ZF and schaeffler both say that they have a solution that is suitable for the mass market. Schaeffler has a cooperation with the German company paravan, which converts vehicles for the physically handicapped using Schaeffler's steer by wire technology. So far they have converted over 16000 vehicles.
There is actually more steer by wire going on than people realize. There may be a traditional column involved, but if you get into the details you will find it is mechanically disconnected when the electric takes over.
Steer by wire. The foreign hackers appreciate the 24 hour cloud access to the vehicle to work on this new platform Just because we can do it, doesn't mean we should. It's a NO from me for steer by wire.
@@cyjanek7818 So, you have a vehicle with a 24/7 connection to the internet, has a ton of software involved and you don't think it's hackable. HA ! What a tool.
If the tire inflation level can be controlled by pneumatics, unless you have a catastrophic blowout, or someone slashes your tires, I think that the pump can keep the tire inflated until you reach a service station or your home.
or... the tire inflators can have a 'runflat' chemical added via a secondary tank that can plug the leak temporarily till you can get the tire fixed. or you just pull over and shoot some fix-a-flat into the tire manually.
Not sure it makes sense to say the shape is a purely aesthetic decision when the underlying motivation was to avoid the cost of body-on-rails, leading to the structural skin or "exoskeleton" which in turn require thick steel which can't be stamped. And given that it had to be made up of few flat surfaces, the triangle design is more aerodynamic than anything more blocky like a pickup truck. So there are many functional engineering reasons for the shape.
When you look at any Tesla vehicle shape they are all very basic because they do not have the design experience of any of the major auto manufacturers. Tesla does not have the manufacturing expertise or capability to build complex body shapes. As the technology of electric vehicles advances it will be easier to move an existing F150 or Silverado owner into an electric version.
@@mikeecker146 It is aerodynamic _given the constraints_ of the steel exoskeleton design, which requires using only a few flat panels (fiving the "low polygon" video game look). The cybertruck has six main surfaces. The "triangle" shape is about the best you can do for aerodynamics under these constraints. And it is better than most pickups. Everything is a trade-off in engineering. They save weight (no rails). They save money on paint. Manufacture is simplified in many ways.
@@frankking439 "...do not have the design experience..." That's a joke, right? Right? Oh not? Good grief, the sheer ignorance of this comment. Legacy auto is _crippled_ by its "experience", trapped in old ways of doing things. Tesla is years ahead on not just EV powertrains, but advance body designs & manufacturing techniques, and continues to innovate. And btw, complexity is not a virtue. Good engineers simplify. You make something more complex only when absolutely necessary. That said, there's nothing excessively simple about Models S, X, 3 & Y bodies. And Tesla achieves things with each of those that would be legacy auto's wet dream. The deceptively simple shape of CT is the result of _removing_ rails, as in "body on rails" that ever other pickup is built on, and replacing them with 3mm steel for body panels that provide much of the support, and far more _rigidity_ than is possible for regular pickups. And this is done for less overall weight for the body which helps offset the weight of the batteries. You can't stamp 3mm steel into fancy curved body panels, which is why CT is made up of simple flat surfaces. Ford is struggling to scale F150 Lightning production and must sell them at a huge loss. CT will ramp to 250K/year before you know it.
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**Update!** Tesla (Lars) issued a correction about the wiper power: "Quick correction on that one - my mind was on steering motor power (also enabled by 48V) - the wiper motor is nominally much less in most speeds, peaks around 120W. Not nearly as much, but still enabled by 48V since >100W... imagine that on 12V, the wires would be huge!"
This truck has the lowest drag co of any full size truck. The Rivian is a mid size truck...Cybertruck has the most efficient shape possible, theoretically...
@@demonkiller1104 At the expense of looking like it was drawn by a child
@@robertstojs that's definitely your number one concern when buying a truck
@@robertstojsoh hey everyone! We have an expert here! I would love to see how a child can draw this. But hey what do i know? Youre the expert here im not gonna waste my time with you. Nobody is forcing you to watch this. And even if it looks the way it looks still pleople are surprised to see this truck on streets. There are videos out there to prove you wrong anyway so.. thats enough for me im done talking to you but hey! Next time try to come with something original. Peace
@@netrox1345 I’m no expert either but looking at your essay I’d say you need some extra strength hemorrhoid cream
The tires should be square, like the Canadian cars in South Park
That would be true innovation
Might have improved the drag coefficient by a tenth!
Why not triangle tires?
Satisfactory is way ahead of you on that.
@@DurfDiggler a tear shape would be the most Arobynamic one right?
the whole 'releasing the product with incomplete software and fixing it later' feels like a move taken from the video game industry
Or, the universe.
Its SOP in the tech world - the only difference is with cars - that can get people killed and has.
Ironic, considering the truck itself looks like to belongs in a mid-90s video game
cities skylines 2 is a perfect example
Or in the You Kay, British Leyland used that technique - they went bust
One downside of bare stainless steel with no paint or clear coat: Tesla says that “To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.)" Bare stainless steel can corrode way more quickly than modern painted cars, and we won't know how bad it can get until owners have these for a few years.
Yeah I do think we need some time to see how it fares.
"...how it fares."@@EngineeringExplained
FACT! Stainless steel is vulnerable to chlorides; think road salt. Plain old salt (sodium chloride) is a problem, but the sticky magnesium chloride brine they use to pre-treat roads is going to be especially problematic on bare stainless. It doesn't rust, it develops pits and pinholes.
@@jacksons1010
In other words it's a garage queen. No outdoor parking for this truck.
The model 3 or S has the same disclosure, it seems. I suppose you could ask Delorean owners about the downsides of a stainless steel body
My mate in high school had a vehicle with rear wheel steering, it was a Honda Prelude from 1988
yes, really strange to see all those concepts from back in the day being repackaged as "Musk genius"
I was just thinking that. Honda did the mechanical rear wheel steering. Regular Car Reviews does a review of the Prelude from that era and focuses on the steering.
Yep. My brother had one. We were in a hurry to catch a train and he chose to take Lower Wacker Drive (you've seen it in the Blues Brothers movie). Doing about sixty, steering with all four wheels, weaving around the girders. Scared the bejeezus out of me.
Mitsubishi Galant 4x4 Dynamic 1993. 4 wheels steering.
@@ZygonesBzygones pretty much everything classified as "Musk genius" is actually old ideas. Some of it is old ideas proven not to work.
The no spare tire trend needs to end..... Rarely needed, but when you do it is such a relief.
Did not need no bloody reserve tire in 40 years of driving cars. Do not need one for the next 40 years. Thx.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 You have the option to remove it and use the space for other things, that's great. I had a time once where I had three flats in the same week. I will keep hauling the spare around, preferably a full size spare.
You can use run flat tires. So much more convenient than replacing the tire by yourself. And also consider the weight of the CT tire. Could you even lift it out?
@@andrasbiro3007 Replacing a tire takes minutes. Lifting it out is not an issue for most. Not to mention most trucks lower the spare and have a lifting mechanism for the other way. For those that have trouble call AAA. They change it and you are on your way. Getting towed to a shop and hoping they have or can get your tire in a short period of time works fine in the city, out on the road or offroad is not a solution.
I've needed a spare countless times @@wolfgangpreier9160
What they should have done about the spare tire if they really wanted to save a buck and think people barely use it is design a compartment where the tire would go under the bed, but sell the tire separately so the compartment can be used for something else if people want.
Yes, precisely. This is exactly what Rivian does.
Expect that spare tire & wheel to cost over a grand at the Tesla Dealer...
They want you to pay a monthly subscription to some kind of Tesla Roadside Assistance program - there's a lot more money in that for them than there is in including a spare tire with the truck.
@gorak9000 let's just hope Roadside Assistance can reach people where Tesla says this truck can go. Nothing like popping a tire off the beaten paved path.
@@davidhollenshead4892 Maybe double that. A tire and wheel on my 2017 Volvo is over a grand. I've paid for a few...my wife likes to clip curbs.
1950: "I bet we'll have flying cars by 2025!"
2024: *Tesla introduces steering lag*
Flying cars is a terrible idea since people are already crashing cars everyday. We don’t need flying cars falling out of the skies too. 😂
We do have flying cars.
@@LordLoMR2 A world with flying cats is a world where 9/11 is a daily occurrence.
@@LordLoMR2it’s harder to get pilot license tho and I bet you’ll need those before piloting a flying car
8:16 that hummer is a rolling cinderblock so I'm not surprised by that at all
Agree the full-size spare is essential for a 4X4 truck.
It's not a 4x4, though.
I drive 2x more than average and have owned trucks for 45 years. Never, not even once, have I used my spare. Looking at the data, spares are not really needed. This is why most cars don’t bother. If you go off road and want one, you can always buy a jeep style one.
if I can go to the scrap yard and buy a truck with a full size spare then a 70k+ truck should come with one
@@solarguy4850 Same here. After 50 years of driving, over a million miles in trucks, not once has a spare ever hit the road. My current truck has 330,000 miles and the original spare still underneath. I keep tire plugs and compressed air onboard. I have had to pull over a time or two and plug a tire then fill it back up, but never has a spare hit the road. Not saying I'm not more comfortable knowing it's there, but I would be alright without.
Edit: I should also mention that I do not use cheap or worn tires. Think about the only thing between you and the road going 70 MPH and the only thing holding on while you try to brake and turn.
@@meko1896 While I agree with you, it's faster to put a spare tire on in the rain, dark or cold than trying to find the leak and plug it.
The dash looks like a fabulous space for 3 cats to nap in the Sun.
Dash is cat approved.
Cat tested?@@EngineeringExplained
Unarguably the best feature.
BITD??? a 'HOLDS-MA BILE? SILHOUETTE ??? That's a 3 dog Knight napper!
Good luck cleaning those furs off lol
That A-pillar makes every driver Ray Charles 🙈
That's not an A pillar, it's A wall.
my brain is fighting a 'lol!/OOF!' battle seeing this comment
Close quarter driving could be an issue (and concern); two thumbs up for this comment.
It's an easy fix because camera/screens could, mostly, remove it as a blind spot. But America's auto regulations haven't left 1950 yet.
@@davidmccarthy6061 so when a little kid kicks the screen and it breaks, then what?
Now, even techbros can join the "pavement queen" club.
It seems like 90% of truck owners are part of this club.
Aren't they called pavement princesses?
@@GuusJanssen Might be the more potent version of that.
I recall a Sandy Monroe interview with Tesla engineers that revealed that the conversion to 48V was made necessary by the steering motors - at 12v they could not make the steering motors small enough to fit into the space available for them.
Took them a few years to figure out how to spin it though. It's not like they couldn't do 48v for some stuff and 12 for others, but since Tesla doesn't know what they are doing ever...
@@sprockkets That's not true at all. You would have to do a massive electrical system then, and double the wirering too. How would you have solved it without massive loss in energy from all the conversion of power you would need ? As I would be really pleased if you could explain a way that would make sense.
There is a reason nobody has done this before, as it is super hard. When engineers say that it isn't because we don't know how to do it, just that it would be impractical, too expensive or would need new technology to be feasible.
@@-JustHuman-Exactly. Engineering, as in life is full of trade offs. When you hit a brick wall and want to engineer through it, you do it. Kind of like self landing rockets. Because it was necessary to close the business case. Oh, we need 30-ish % more efficient engines? OK.
@@sprockkets I wonder how long it, the battery , would last when using the 240v power circuit. Standard power in a lot of countries is 230-240 VAC, so ...........
@Grauenwolf Not what I said. They exist, but you lose power as a price. And you need it for both systems. If we use your number of 90, that's already a lose of 20% of the power to conversion.
You do need 2 sets of wires. That was the whole problem. As a standard, the car industry makes things for 12 colts, not 48v. And you can't run 48 in a 12 v system, if you do it, the otherwise around you would again lose huge amount of energy.
Running it in a 48v system saves so much wirering and power in this case. And it makes it possible to do steer by wire.
Although the stainless panels are advertised as tough they won't be immune to the usual dings and scratches over time. I think you'll see a cottage industry of folks who are skilled at burnishing and doing spot repairs.
I think what we'll be seeing are a lot of wrapped trucks too! :)
And charging a fortune for it!
They're already rusting. Plus, the hoods and doors are sharp enough to cut your fingers (or whole hand) off when closing them, and the hub caps are rubbing the wheels raw; drivers are getting terribly hurt in accidents because they are in a stainless steel cage without proper, shock-absorbing, crumple zones, it probably won't be allowed in Europe because Europeans are smart enough to understand that hitting pedestrians with a stainless steel block is a bad idea ... honestly, the whole thing is a mess. And you can't even sell it if you get one and hate it because Tesla will financially punish you. The whole thing is an absolute disaster.
@@jcshanghai07proof people re actually cutting their hands? Not just bashers that are not verifiable.
@@jcshanghai07 Europeans are a joke.
That is a revolutionary design. The Tesla engineers manage to mount a Delorean backwards on a Tesla chasis. Amazing!
It’s not, it’s years late and double the price with thinner steel because they screwed up so much with this thing, it’s not revolutionary, it’s unnecessary and useless
@@Yomotomen You didn't understood the joke :D
@@Delibro one can only hope it was a joke
The future looks like a 80's B series movie.
40 years ago, the present looked like an 80's B grade movie.
An 80s _dystopian_ B movie. It's cognitive dissonance on overdrive that some people's idea of a bright future is a very dark future imagined 40 years ago.
Retro Sci-Fi
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Can you give any examples of that? Of a modern car that resembles a prop from an 80s movie? With the cyber-truck's steel skin and wedge shape, the resemblance to DeLorean's DMC-12 is quite clear, but it's tough to come up with something that fits your analog.
80's CGI movie maybe, even B series movies that used practical effects had more detail to their movies based in the future. Cyberpunk isn't wedges, it is 80's futurism. 80's cars were wedges but theirr trucks were not. I'd argue the Hummer EV is more true to the monicher of a "cybertruck" so cybertruck truck, so 80s futurism trunk, than the actual cybertruck is
casually suggesting to his viewers they probably should avoid gun fights altogether. lmao
Love your videos man
Texas...
I think it should have just been a disclaimer. /s
Good advice, but not always possible. Especially in the US gunfights tend to come to you.
unfortunately he glass just like the body aint bulletproof
@@carholic-sz3qv But it's at least a steel ball proof... ok, baseball proof... fine, training rubber ball proof, if you don't throw it too fast...
I like Rivian's clever design to stow the spare wheel inside the bed. It keeps it clean, out of the way, and it's super easy to access. The tesla with no spare wheel at all is a design failure. Rivian looks great too, the tesla looks like a steel shed.
Home Depot insta-shed.
What if you have a load of stone in the bed of your truck, a load of lumber, or a load of anything? That spare tire is going to be useless unless you unload everything to get to it. It be almost the same as not having one to begin with.
Ha Ha. From time-to-time we'll see abandoned piles of gravel, beauty bark, etc. left on the side of the road. On second thought some of these truck owners never let the rig get dirty so they wouldn't load anything, so those folks won't have a problem.@@jasonstclair6293
@@jasonstclair6293 Part of the reason why some vehicles store it externally, usually under the bed (pickup truck and ute) or body (wagons, minivans, and vans).
@@jasonstclair6293 The reality is that none of these users will ever use it for actually hauling things.
I have yet to see a Rivian haul anything. There are even reports of people being afraid to scratch the bed lining. *The bed lining.* On a 'pick-up truck.'
I think the biggest issue with electric towing isn't even the range (which, yeah, is still annoying), but the fact that you can't really charge at all unless you want to fully unhitch your trailer every time you need to. It's crazy that these charging companies (including Tesla) STILL aren't building pull-through charging stations, with very few exceptions.
Rivian stations all have pull through chargers for trailers. They just need to roll out many more
I've had my first Tesla a bit less than a year---a model Y long distance. In that time I've towed a 7-foot-tall box trailer up and down the Colorado front range three round trips, at 145 miles each way. Being able to make it is the difference between setting cruise control to no more than 60 mph, versus setting it to 65 mph. Of course the usability superchargers has been a _huge_ problem.
Maybe as gas stations sell less and less gas, and the land is unusable for anything else (because of buried tanks possibly leaking), Tesla and other companies will start putting Superchargers where the fuel pumps used to be.
Why do you have to unhitch the trailer? Just because the charging spots are just normal spots and aren't long enough for truck + trailer?
they do have pull through stations just not enough yet.
They haven’t even accomplished 10% of what’s already on their plate. And you want more 😂
Aztek Pontiac + Delorean = cyber truck
I call it the cyber El Camino
I forgot about the Aztec.. you're pretty spot on, it does look like the as andthe del had a baby
The Aztek was just ahead of it's time. It had comically small wheels. It was a good idea ruined by trying to make into an econobox. It wouldn't have been laughed at so much if the capability matched the look, and the vibe of accessory tent.
LOL, I just passed one of those Pontiacs earlier today and made the same connection.
With the build quality of a Chevy Chevette....
I think this is the best, most balanced and factual review I have seen of the Cybertruck. There are lots of passionate opinions about this one, but this review stuck to information we can use. This is why I subscribe to the channel.
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
Not really as it needs to be reviewed as a truck.
EE reviewed it as a car and that is what I suspect it really is...
Thanks mom!
Did noone else noticed how he just handwaved away the indicator lights not always working when he pressed the button?
Is "Indicators may not work" not a roadworthiness failure in the USA?
@@dancooperish Apparently he is high up on Elon's list of first astronauts to step foot on Mars. He is given some leeway. Just use hand signals if the indicators don't work. No biggie. What he really failed to mention is how easy it is to harness a team of horses to the truck as a back up plan.
finally a person I trust to review this truck........
me too
Facts
Thinks like an engineer 😎
Exactly! I have watched ZERO Cybertruck videos before this one.
I don't agree because a proper review of a truck involves using it as a truck. Those who have done so have found that it sucks as a truck and gets stuck in the snow, and eats the tires, and gets 100 miles on a charge. So not a real truck,,,
Just because it actually came to market doesn't mean it's not a joke.
Shout out to the 1988 Honda Prelude Si 4ws. First production car with 4 wheel steering. It was a budget car that slalomed faster than anything else at the time. 80s Hondas were so fun to drive
The 2026 Prelude looks pretty cool too
@@fcv1967 agreed
It wasn't a "budget" car. It was in the same price range or somewhat above a well equipped Honda Accord.
The Honda Prelude Si 4ws cost a small fortune to keep on the road....
1980's Honda's were garbage, I know I have serviced them. My favorites are the pressed on brake rotors, the Hondamatic Semi automatic transmissions that lasted about 30k miles between rebuilds, the manual transaxles that started losing gears by 100k and the Honda Civic 1200 Aluminum engine that cracked within 20k miles...
Face it they were disposable...
I did manage to buy a Civic 1200 with 40k miles after it blew its second engine and I stuffed a prelude engine in it...
@@davidhollenshead4892 I said fun, not reliable. But since you brought it up, Honda was the second most reliable car company of the 1980's behind Toyota. Relative to other '80s cars they were of relatively great quality. Yes they were disposable, but they were commuter cars. I had an 85 Accord and an 89 CRX (135k & 175k miles at sale), my college girlfriend had an 89 Prelude SI 4WS (over 100k miles). None of them ever required any work other than regular maintenance. The only people I knew that had the kind of problems you mentioned didn't change their timing belts. Interference motors don't like that and bend valves when the belt/chain breaks. I learned how to rebuild a head when my friend learned that the hard way with his Integra
So how would two Cyber Trucks crashing onto each other sound like. It has to be a very loud sound 😂
Or a regular gas vehicle, with that weight it will blow you in pieces lol
Fatality!
💥☠️
@@RotoRCol there was already a road incident. A Corolla crashed into a Cybertruck and was pretty much destroyed, while the truck just had a few pieces of its fender damaged.
@@abhishekrao1525 that'll buff out.
Thanks! I did not know we had road load data for the Cybertruck!! Coef A 46.45 lbf, Coef B 0.14 lbf/mph, Coef C 0.03367 lbf/mph^2
Great how is it at pulling an 11000 lb trailer with horses from one farm to another? How is it at hauling hay? My diesel will pull them for nearly 700 miles and when I run low on fuel I do not have to drop my trailer. But when I'm not hauling or towing I grab my car and use it as a car.
@EngineeringExplained I think we should try to normalize presenting CdA in the same breath as discussing Cd. As vehicles get bigger and (especially) wider, just talking about Cd leaves out a very important aspect of vehicle design and efficiency.
I am absolutely baffled why Cd is used at all.
@@tewrgh I think of it of an 'institutionalization' of the concept that bigger is inherently better. As someone who lives in an old (for North America) city, with narrow residential streets, I appreciate the downsides of 'bigger' more than most.
But compared to other full size pickups it's useful. I agree, just multiply it by the frontal area and get something you can compare a space shuttle to a bicycle.
That said the Cybertuck is really close to a ICE Ram which is pretty disappointing. I imagine the EV Ram is going to beat it soundly not having all the cooling openings.
Yeah this is, for example, why the new Prius is more efficient than the old one. Cd is worse, but CdA is better.
Considering the truck has a much larger wind facing area than the Model 3, the relative road force is surprisingly good.
You can hit the body with a hammer, but if a bird poops on it, you have to clean it RIGHT AWAY, per the manual.
"THIS IS THE EVERYTHINGS OKAY ALARM" **BEEEEP! ** "IT GOES OFF EVERY 30 SECONDS AS LONG AS EVERYTHINGS OKAY" **BEEEEP!!! :)
Just the standard manual on all vehicles. In reality you're probably fine with bird poop lol
@@wemakecookieThe acidity will discolour it just like any SS (including your stove or fridge). It's purely cosmetic but it's bare SS so something to keep in mind if your don't like blemishes.
@@TheJohn8765 We'll have to see cause this is a unique type of stainless steel.
Go look at a painted Delorian.
As all DMC cars that have had body damage had to be painted to hide it...
Very good overview. No wasting time. Like others talking intentionaly slowly
Haha I don’t think I’m capable of speaking slowly. Glad you liked it!
Counter to the trend I think he has the opposite going on. He has so much excited knowledge to share that he doesn’t want to keep us for too long. But still wants to share it all. Really scratches my brain itch
EE and ProjectFarm are my 2 favorite youtube channels for this very reason.
@@EngineeringExplainedha ha. I am used to your content being more analytical this content did not discuss any of the safety concerns that prevent this truck in current configuration being sold in the EU. Nor did you mention this vehicle was allowed to self certify and has not had independent crash testing or any other independent testing of any real rigor.
Other vehicles with two windshield wipers have windshield motors that use 50W or so each. Maybe for something large, around 100W.
So that giant one is 1/10 as effective as just having two of them, as well as it being more expensive to replace. 1kW of power just for that thing? It's insane!
Edit: I see that was already corrected as wrong. Makes a lot more sense
One of the biggest misses for me (one of many) is that the rearview camera feed is still in the damn dash instead of up in the actual rearview mirror location, where they should've always been from the start.
But there's no first principle reason why the rearview mirror should be where it always has been. Tesla's thinking is that if a functionality is the way it is purely out of historical inertia (customer habit), and there are savings to be made by not putting in additional screens and pulling unnecessary wiring, then they're going to make an effort to usher in that change. To give you an exaggerated example, imagine if the ignition button of a modern car sat by the front bumper, and the reason why is because cars used to have hand cranks there 100 years ago. That just wouldn't fly.
It is one of the bigger issues with this car. The back camera is horrible in low light and looking down to your right is not great. There really should be a smaller screen behind the steering wheel.
Tens of millions of trucks, Fire Engines, brush rigs, log trucks, ambulances, power utility vehicles, over-landing rigs, military vehicles , dump trucks, jets, planes, helicopters, ships, boats, submarines and delivery vans don't have any direct sightline out of the back window and that's been working well for over 100 years.
@@thorwaldjohanson2526 "There really should be a smaller screen behind the steering wheel." ... wait... what?
@@dvader3263 Yeah... and they are operated by trained (mostly) professionals with CDL's and pilot's licenses. Not dickheads that managed to drive around the block without killing anyone to get their license. It's a false equivalency.
That said, the rearview mirror fell off the windshield of my '95 Yukon back in the day and I never had a problem (though I did occasionally miss the additional situational awareness running down the interstate). Even with the barn-doors in the back, it still had better rear visibility than most vehicles in any class that are currently in production.
16:16 About bullet resistance:
"Probably best to avoid that situation entirely."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
US cities.
Fit it with Alon windows, fill the interspaces with UHDMPE, and give it an integrated onboard generator, and it would make a decent military vehicle.
@homerj806
Learning from movies can get you killed.. 😌
Halfway into the video i realized this guy is filming all of his explanation while driving! And, he's still doing an excellent job going into all the details.
No failed to discuss significant safety issues with that vehicle. Was not from an engineer perspective but a fan boy perspective.
My biggest concern for the Cybertruck , Rivian and many ICE vehicles is the cost of mechanical and structural repair cost . There was a horror story here in Canada where the Hyundai battery cost was 60k which is 5k more than a brand new replacement of the complete vehicle . Ball joints and tie rods are far more economical a repair and diagnostic of them far easier than electric steering .
Replacing a battery is rare, it's like replacing an engine of an ICE car.. it is expensive but not something you do every 2-3 years
No it's not. The engine does not cost 60% of the vehicle cost. Manufacturers don't make spare battery packs to go on the repair shelf because they are too expensive. It's a factory order part if you can get it. The manufactures know lithium is in short supply and only want to build new cars with batteries and not buid spares. So when a battery pack is 'damaged' they quote ridiculous prices and the car is written off. Then the insurance company pays out and insurance premiums go up on everyone to cover the cost. @@wannabewallaby1592
@@wannabewallaby1592 , In the case of the Ionic it doesn’t cost 5 k more than the car to replace an engine on an ice car . On any E car with the floor being the battery it is easy to damage hitting a road hazard . Plenty of Ice cars have some kind of undercarriage scars to attest to the risk . It’s not as rare as you think as the Rich Rebuilds channel will attest to .
@@mezzbLOL Elon arleady promised this exact thing... over a decade ago. like all of his moronic ideas to pump the stock, it quietly died.
@@mezzb Meh. It's like exchanging BBQ propane bottles at the gas station. It's random and you might get an old ass bottle. Or in this case old stale batteries when you bought new batteries. This would only work if they sell you the car battery-less and then you get a monthly battery swapping "subscription".
Biggest gain from high voltage (800V battery) architecture is going to be charging efficiency. Being able to save 2% when charging with 800V vs 400V on a 140kW battery means I don't have to pay for that extra 11kw of power that gets lost to heat when charging. Coming from the energy storage sector, there is a reason why a lot of grid tie energy storage systems are using 1000V battery architecture and some are pushing to 1500V. It is all about that I2R loss.
Reduction in power loss should be 4.6kWh not 11kWH, see explanation below. Thanks Jason for calling me out on this :)
1) How did you come up with 2%?
2) If it is 2%, how do you get 11 kWh from 2% of the battery pack (even adding 20% losses)?
1) 2% improvement is number we used to justify going from 480V to 1000V architecture.
You can find online documentation and see a 1% improvement going from 210V to 480V on the inverter. 1000V systems go up to 98.4% efficiency. Check out EPC power inverters.
2) Bad math or typo on my part. Using real numbers. 140kWh/96.3=145.4kWh, 140kWh/98.4=142.3kWh thus a savings of 3.1kWh for just the inverter. With that reduction comes a equivalent reduction in thermal load thus the thermal management system (using a COP of 2) can save 3.1/2=1.55kWh. For a total system savings of 4.6kWh.
Jason, great content, and thanks for catching my math error (a little embarrassing for a engineer)
@@buffalojr03thanks for the additional details!
I agree with you (18:00) that all vehicles should have a spare wheel/tire -- or at least the *option* for one (i.e., a dedicated space somewhere in the rear, or in the frunk in a BEV, for one) -- meaning that people could opt to not the spare and use that circular storage space for other storage, but that they could also later opt to buy a spare wheel/tire and have a hidden place to store it if they so choose.
Pretty sure someone will come up with a fastener for a sparetire somewhere hanging off the back or something (like a jeep)
Then you have to get the tire...but that's a minor inconvenience, and hopefully you'll never need it
Yeah and even worse, the ones that don't come with spares usually have the fix a flat cans which almost guarantees that a tire that might have been repairable now has to be replaced. None of the tire shops I've dealt with will even touch a tire that has had fix a flat sprayed into it, because once it's cured, it can not easily be removed and messes with the weight balance of the tire.
The bmw mini doesn’t have one and there solution is to put very expensive and hard to get run flat tires. This Tesla may have something similar. It’s quite annoying when you want to go replace your what you would expect to be under $100 tire for something much more because they didn’t want to put a spare.
The first buyers of a cybertruk will call someone and the tow company will know there is no spare and a town truck will fetch it after the owner has been Uber Black driven away. That is how Porsche, BMW, etc., etc. Get dealt with, even if there is a spare.
And you’ve had to change a spare last, when ?
So you want something that people use maybe every 10 years. I’ve never changed a tire on the side of the road for the last 28 years
Ive never owned a car without a spare tire. Sometimes I go years without needing it, but sometimes the roads are bad and I need it several times a year.
I've never punctured a tire in like 30 years. If I did, I'd just get it towed for free thanks to insurance.
@@esaedvik Having had a few flats over the past 40+ years, every time it was faster, sometimes _much_ faster, to swap w/my spare and get back on the road. The last time, just after pulling over, I texted the person I was meeting telling them I would be about ten minutes late -- and that was, in the end, how long it took for me to swap and get back on the road.
Admittedly if one isn't facile with tools and lives in an urban area, they are likely better off calling the tow service and either waiting or telling the tow service where the key is hidden and getting an Uber to wherever one is going.
It's an unfortunate trend, but not something Tesla started.
Smart cars don't have spares either. Just a bottle of specialty gunk and an inflator. Plus, the tires are different sizes between front and back, and have to be special ordered. Efficiency through lightness can go too far.
What's almost as annoying are cars with the donut style spares. Those often have a max speed of 35mph, incredibly high pressures, and are almost never actually maintained.
Can anyone imagine what a 36" wheel would weigh - Elon would be being sued for hernias left right and between the legs!!!
Even my corolla I ultimately ended up with a full size spare since those donuts don't really last beyond 10 years. Lose a little trunk space, but worth it for a full size spare. And of course my Tacoma has a full size spare, even when I upped the tire size, I bought 5 tires so my spare matches my upgraded regular tires.
Don't worry about the spare tire and being stranded...
If you light it on fire it'll burn for days to keep you warm and act as a distress marker for passing aircraft. Just one of the innovative features built into the vehicle.
Just make sure you don't breathe while you're keeping warm. There's some lethal chemicals coming from that fire.
Haters with lack of cash
I'm not only shocked, but I'm also appalled as well...
Let me make this clear. I do not hate it for it's cost...
I hate it cause it sucks.
@@lesflynn4455 lmfao
Dang! I'm halfway through video right now and I've learned more about the Cybertruck and features from EE than from 10 other videos I've watched including a video with the designer and engineer that produced Cybertruck.
Well done and interesting video as usual EE. Thank you
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
Then you didn’t watch (or pay attention to) the Hagerty video. Jason Cammisa talked about all this, and more. For instance, he also mentioned the new network system Tesla put in this. Also, I have to disagree that 48 volts isn’t new. No one has ever put it in a production car before. Not for the entire low voltage system.
@@jayjohnson3732just so you’re aware, Tesla definitely innovated on the 48V front. That said, plenty of other cars have 48V systems, and Tesla’s entire system is not 48V. For example, the speakers are 24V. I believe there are numerous other examples, but Tesla was a bit vague in messaging.
@@EngineeringExplained I’m aware that other vehicles have “48 volt systems”, but my understanding is the use of 48 volts is confined to specific, and isolated systems, like rear wheel steering for instance. No one else has implemented it vehicle wide. With respect to the speakers, I *think* that is because they are basically part of the vehicle data network, and not wired directly from a head unit, as is traditional. I remember hearing one of the engineers telling Sandy Munro that they were in effect a network component. I could be wrong.
That windshield wiper alone is a sign of the apocalypse.
Thank God, I'm so tired of elon that I welcome Armageddon just to shut him up
What does this even mean?
I'm not disagreeing, I just want to know...
@@jlco there's no meaning. People are overly dramatic for the sake of being dramatic
@@jlco what it means that Musk is a liar. He promised so much and vastly underdelivered.
I had a '98 Benz C230, the single windshield wiper was better than any two blade setup I've had before or since.
Thank you for shedding light on the road load comparison. 🙌🏽
This is a huge thing missed by most consumers in today’s car market in general.
Air is the most common payload in pick up trucks in the USA
Cybertruck! Coming soon to a junkyard near you! 👀
Jealous ass.
15:37 The exterior might be resistant to dents, but despite being 'stainless' steel, it is still more vulnerable to everyday corrosion (road salt, bug splats, etc.) than normal steel panels that are dipped and painted.
Sand it
Resistant to dents against anything it hits. Pedestrians, for example. And any other traffic participant. To me, aside from all the cool technology, this is a car that screams "I only care about me".
@@TherconJairpeople die all the time look at what Israel is doing to Palestinians
I've not experienced any corrosion with the stainless steel panels on my DeLorean and it is over 40 years old.
@@dickeysgarage Cause DeLorean is stainless steel grade 304, Tesla used just 301, which is apparently worse than even most cutlery
Finally, a trusted engineer’s perspective!
I agree on the spare situation. We’ve had too many blowouts that required use of the spare to get to shop for replacement tire. Guess the cybertruck will live in cities, so roadside assistance can tow it to a shop easily enough. Rural areas need spare tires though.
As someone who jogs in the city, I'm terrified of this vehicle. It's incredibly tall with poor viewing angles, and the cameras in the best conditions do not show pedestrians well. In road brine situations I have no idea how people will see out the rear of their vehicle
Rural areas need spare tires and....chargers. If you're going offroad into the great wide open of the USA where civilization isn't, good luck with charging.
I saw one yesterday and it looked like it had dents all over it. Either a bunch of people had been kicking it or it came pre-dented.
One of many problems with stianless steel, is even tho its stronger, its more prone to getting permanently dented, even from just a sudden change in temperature. Like leaving a garage in a freezing winter
Also parts like the bumper are actually attached under stress, so if one of the clips fail, the bumper might fly out
Also a rigid car is **not** safer. Sure the car itself might not take much damage in a crash, but this means that squishy body of yours is responsible for absorbing most of the impact. An airbag can only do so much if you only have a crumple zone the size of a shoebox
Probably got kicked. It's an atrocity on wheels.
Must be the exclusive golf ball trim.
Or both.
@@TheRguru1 It's for the aerodynamics. Adds 0.001% to battery range.
Steer by wire.
It's completely safe, there are multiple layers of redundancy.
Proceeds to list 18 sensors and motors that can fail.
This sounds expensive.
A steering rack costs $50 and is a proven 100 year old technology.
Weak arguments, yet again. Air cooled piston-engine powered airplanes were decades old "proven technology" as well, but we moved on to turbines. It turned out fine. In fact much better. The airliners you and I travel in all use fly-by-wire. When was the last time an airliner's "fly-by-wire" system failed??? Stop being scared.
@@themapmaker5374 Smartlynx training flight on 28th of Feb, 2018 in Estonia almost lost total flight control systems due bad programming and the very unusual use case of the aircraft for touch and go trainings. This was the first time this bug in programming was found since the 80s when Airbus FBW (regarded as the unfaillable gold standard of FBW) was first introduced. Shows you that 0.0000001% chance of smt happening is not 0. Combination of great airmanship by the training captains, some low level mechanical backup (mechanical pitch trim) and a bit of luck saved the 6 lives onboard the training flight. Check out Mentour Pilot's recent video about this, he covers it really well.
@@themapmaker5374 The most problematic airliner at the moment (Boeing 737 MAX) is NOT fly-by-wire.
My brother in christ that’s an airplane that gets taken apart every so often for maintenance. Also the cost is a huge influence, I’ve seen people have their cars repossessed because they didn’t want to spend the money to fix something simple but expensive.
@@themapmaker5374 Dude, you're comparing a navigation system on a plane that costs hundreds of millions to one that's in a 100k disposable car. Start being scared and stop buying crap
A truck made by engineers, I have to think of the Maverick.
The wheel wells lining up with a second catch on the tailgate lowering for fitting 4x8 plywood? I am mad at how obvious that is and how I would have never thought of that.
Also jealous that it gets more MPG than my fit.
For steer by wire; that thing must make for a great game controller for Assetto Corsa! And I agree with your assessment of the safety implications. So many thing are electronic, and assuming that electricity=bad is like assuming electronic fuel injection is unreliable.
A video about using an EV for powering a home would be a great video! It would really put into perspective the amount of energy that an EV has.
Technology Connections and 8-Bit Guy have both done pretty good videos on that topic. (Home battery backups, using an EV to power appliances, etc.)
Thank you for your unbiased perspective. I was disappointed that the undervault storage doesn’t fit a spare tire. Perhaps someone will make a real range extender that could be housed in the undervault storage.
Well, the new generation of drivers won't even consider changing a wheel. This vehicle is adapted to the future generations (pussies) I think this is just a cool urban truck, just to show off.
Steer by wire with no mechanical backup, what could possibly go wrong? o_O
Maybe elon took inspiration from the titanic engineers?
@@kameronmyles2013you mean titan?
@@kameronmyles2013 that would explain the sinking reputation of the Cybertruck...
@@Jacky-zt5ch titan creator also sounded alot like the creator of the titanic. Unsinkable. This is why those (sometimes) pesky safety guys exist.
@@kameronmyles2013 nah the titanic builders clearly knew their stuff, titanic’s older sister ship olympic went on to have a long and storied career. titan on the other hand, the whole design itself was already a big red flag.
I feel that the real test the Cybertruck will have to face is reliability in what trucks are usually supposed to do. i.e. heavy cargo, towing, off-roading, etc.
No worries there. Most will never ever see dirt
Fear not, air is the most popular payload with the pickup crowd
Nope, these (all small/medium trucks) are cars to most users, just in a truck shape. And the Cybertruck is fine in that comparison.
@@Roger_Ramjettrue but those of us that use trucks will not buy this midlife crisis mobile. Both my trucks have trailers on them when they leave my property. Moving hay or horses or gravel or other livestock
Finally, a review worth watching.
Not the only good one
Throttle house is a great channel too
The main purpose of going 48V is not to increase efficiency for more range, it is to reduce materials in fabrication thinner wires means not just less copper, but less of every other supporting materials including mounting/routing hardware, connectors, etc. 1/4 of the copper per vehicle ... it adds up to massive savings in the production. Easier repairs ... etc. etc.
Thin automotive wiring does not equal easy repairs. Ford's bad enough.
We need to remember that the current iteration of the classic pick-up truck is the result of over a century of design and engineering evolution. A LOT of things were tried - some more successfully than others - until we got to what we have today. The Cybertruck is not a product of that evolution. For me, the tech and the design just aren't mature enough (yet) to consider purchasing one. After having looked at what it has to offer, I have the feeling this is what you get when you let people who have little or no expertise in designing a pick-up truck design a pick-up truck. Frankly, my truck needs are pretty non-negotiable so I think I'll wait a while until the evolution of the Cybertruck moves it quite a bit further forward.
this is such an honest and patient opinion, and i really appreciate it!
Wow, Jason, driving for 26 minutes with no stop-and-go traffic. How refreshing. Great video! Still don't want to try and haul a full-size truck around Los Angeles anymore, but very in-depth.
He is driving line creek rd near Austin Tx. So basically little California
@@enigma9789ahh! Understand. Thanks!
@@enigma9789I thought I recognized that treatment plant! Fun road. I guess he edited some of those super tight blind turns. Lol
Thanks for this. I grew up in Belton and instantly recognized the hills and live oaks and assumed it was close to Austin. Just couldn’t figure out exactly where.
@@jabadoo5307 I only knew the trees and wanted to drive on the road. I waited until i found a sign, and googled it. I knew it would be in my area somewhere.
My biggest issue with my Model Y is no spare. It has the space for it. There is a space under the boot that with a little bit of adjustment would fit a full size spare.
To not have a spare for the Cybertruck is crazy.
It's so they can sell you a monthly subscription to roadside assistance
How many people keep their spare tire in shape, ready to go? I have found the 2x my friends needed their donut spare, it was not worthy of the road and they didn't have the tire pump to make it so, so AAA was needed both times. It's unnecessary weight + space 99.9% of the time. I think it should be an option and fit better somewhere though, not a complete afterthought. For me though, I do not need to carry a spare and won't bother with my EVs. I do check the tires, rotate them 2x a year, replace before they are unsafe, etc.
@@gorak9000 you can have both
@@whattheschmidt I would hope most people keep their spare tire in shape, I sure do. If you rotate tires 2x a year then you only have a unfit spare if you really want it to be unfit.
@lcg3092 my point though is I bet over 80%do not keep it in shape. My tire rotations are because I have a winter wheel set. It's awesome swapping them out myself in my driveway and knowing everything is done right and torqued right.
I didn’t realize until this video that you’re in ATX. Love Lime Creek Rd, I’m out there on my bike all the time. Love the channel, keep up the good work!
I don't know if he lives in the Austin area, but this was certainly recorded on Lime Creek and 1431as well it appears.
west of Byran, N of Huston, and westerly to sequin. Love traveling these roads in spring and fall with top down or motorcycle. Props to anyone riding with pedals in the summer. Even with more and more sprawl the vistas and design choices of homes are scenic (italian even) there are quite alot of grape orchards.
Nice review. I have a 2023 Model S and have totally gotten used to the haptic turn signal buttons. I am so used to it that now when I drive another vehicle I'm like: "WTF? I have to take my hand off wheel to set blinker?!?!?" Turn signal stalks (or stalks in general) are just a legacy of old design. The choice to put it on the wheel makes much more sense and it is pretty easy to get used to.
Using a "legacy" blinker stalk doesn't require taking your hand off the wheel.
I'm a bit offended I drive this road everyday and have never seen a cybertruck in real life and here's my favorite car channel driving one on this road 🤣
Lime Rock Creek right?
@@manellis1989 He's on 2769 on the north shore of lake Travis near Volente. Just a bit outside of Austin.
You really aren't missing much. They are ugly as hell and stupidly bulky looking irl
@@apostolakislthanks! Former Austinite here and this entire video I've been distracted by the passing scenery, saying to myself, "is that central Texas? Is it? That really looks like central Texas, but I don't know..." 😝
@@jacob_tung Yeah. I was watching the video for the first few minutes thinking, boy, that stuff looks so familiar, then I saw a few business signs and realized exactly where it was. And I am pretty sure I have seen that exact cybertruck driving down Bee Caves Rd a couple times. I need to pull up my camera footage on my car and see if the temp tags in the window match.
Maybe it is just a mechanical engineer thing, but i still trust a steering column more than redundant electronics.
Steel has been studied for much longer, we understand it's reliability better and it does not get bad over time as electronics do.
Especially considering i live in brazil where the average age of cars on the road is 10 yo, i wouldn't trust a 10 yo steer by wire system.
Im paranoid about going 80mph when an emp hits.....
Airplanes have used the same system for decades.
I hope you typed your comment using a mechanical typewriter. 😬
@@TheGeekPub yes, but airplanes go through much more strict preventive replacement of parts and maintenance.
Most owners don't maintain their car like they should.
@justinmallaiz4549 never said i am anti-technology, i work in software development.
And if my phone breaks, it won't kill me or anyone near me, no need to be extra safe with phones.
I think it's good to be extra safe in a heavy and fast car like this
Thank you!
Regarding mild bullet resistance, I would guess that it is probably more or less impervious to hollow point handgun ammunition. I'm not sure what would happen with ball ammo fired head on, and anything from a rifle is gonna need to hit at an angle to not penetrate.
15:39 Oh, and rain. Apparently I can't handle rain. Probably why they didn't secure that big ass ugly wiper on. But when it falls off, you can put it in the trunk to keep your accelerator pedal company. If the hood doesn't cut your finger off first
I don’t understand why trucks have such tall cabs. It adds a lot of frontal area (>>drag), and thus heavily affects range. Plus it makes it harder to carry long objects over the cab. Electric trucks should look like small trucks from the 1980s.
People keep buying big tall trucks so they keep building them bigger.
Even the small trucks are basically full size trucks that are narrower.
Well, you could change your question to "why do trucks even exist"? Because Muricans like to spend ungodly amounts of money on big fat things. 99% of all people's needs are met by a mid-size sedan or wagon. Anything bigger or more powerful than that comes down to "because I like it and will spend money on it".
For some, offroading. For most, "cause it's cool"
Because tall cabs are roomy. Literally no difference from suv's, they just sit higher. My truck is great, I use it where needed, and drive my model y or other cars, when commiting or doing things that don't need the truck.
Everyone's use case is different, not everyone buys them to just show off.
@@michaelhess4825Not everyone, but I’d wager 98% of them are buying so they “feel safer/I’d like to see over the traffic/I feel more respected by other vehicles if I am in a truck/it looks cool” etc, etc.
I had a tie rod failure. Scariest thing I've ever experienced in a car.
Terrifying!
I've seen one happen and totally agree. Always kept them in good repair ever since.
I heard that Trump won as I drove. Far scarier.
😳
Really ever have a caliper break off your car, brake line fail, get hit by an 18 wheeler leaving it's lane, a truck with 4 horse trailer lose traction in an ice storm going down hill. No? A tie rod is basic.
Honestly for the most part is seems like a bunch of compromises just to be different. Like form over function. Some features are pretty good though - reminds me of the Honda ridgeline. Ppl either loved or hated it. I had one, it was the most convenient truck I’ve ever owned - towed my 21’ liberator 460 no problem, decent fuel mileage, never had to concern myself w 4wd it just did it, and got over 409k km on it before we finally retired it, trouble free.
The ridgeline had issues with gen 1 - it sucked as a truck because it was hard to sideload due to the weird bed shape. Gen 2 they made it flat like a normal truck and it became more popular.
And just like a Ridgeline, if you showed up to a job site with one, you'd be clowned and never hear the end of it. It really is just gimmicky and that's not what people want when the buy a work truck.
@@matthemberry agreed re cyber truck. And I did get flack on the ridgeline with some truck guys. But the thing was just so well designed with thoughtful features (trunk in bed, flat bed, tailgate opens two ways, awd, etc). And so damn reliable. They should have marketed it as a mid size truck, not full size. It would have been accepted more and it’s kinda in between. Since then I’ve had a 2017 f150, a 2020 Silverado and just got a 2024 Silverado - all for work. The ford and Chevy both had a host of problems including engine seals, burning oil etc. the 2024 is ok so far lol.
Drive by wire. It has redundancy upon redundancy. "Just pull over and wait for a tow truck." Ok,I can't pull over!
Truck bed. Should added hydraulics. Since there is little access to the entire bed. The shape lends to a dump truck.
They nailed it. Few pickup truck drivers use the vehicle as a working vehicle. They like the look or the height afforded. I have a neighbor. He has a factory lifted 4x4 crew cab. It's a '23. It beautiful. He doesn't so much as put a cup of coffee in the bed. He does have boat. Yet he might tow the boat a handful of times a year. So the Tesla pickup is for folks like my neighbor. He doesn't honestly need a truck. He likes them.
One utility I am disappointed was dropped from the 2019 reveal is the built in ramp to the bed. A cooler full of ice and food is heavy. Or when I took my snow blower to be repaired, or my compressor, rigging up a stretch of road bank as a loading dock meant shovelling flat a huge snow bank first. The ramp would be a big help.
The problem is that the bed in these things is so high to begin with. People need to buy more vans and fewer of these things.
@@jackroutledge352 As someone who's done a lot of delivering in a van, that would not make most peoples' lives any easier. Especially outside a city.
The Cybertruck can lower itself to help load items in the bed, so there's that. But a ramp would be cool. Excited to get one!
The one and only Cybertruck video I will take the time to watch.
Had me laughing talking ab9ut getting shot at hhaa" probably best to avoid that situation entirely 😂 "
with Texas gun laws, and the way Austin is these days, the chances are more likely than ever
I appreciated an analysis that wasn't a just memes dunking on it for being Elon's or an EV. My biggest complaint from afar is that some bits seem really unnecessarily cheap for what is already an expensive vehicle. The doorcards and dash look more at home on a Daewoo Matiz or geo metro than a vehicle that costs as much as a house. The XL wiper also seems less effective than 2 normal wipers, and a round steering wheel, though more boring, still seems like a better option.
It was not an analysis of anything it was an opinion piece. What analysis did you see? The graph? That's not analysis.
Don't think having huge battery packs in the vehicle itself for towing is the future. For those who tow long distances regularly, batteries will be in the trailer as well. Also much more attention will be made to trailer aerodynamics. Charging stations will be configured to charge both the truck and trailer at the same time. Some spatial standardization across brands is needed to make this work. When the trailer is not working it could be used as a virtual power station, pulling power during low demand and pushing power back in during high demand. Look for huge innovation going forward.
There is one new RV (forget the name), that has a battery which also drives the wheels extending range.
So, you see having trailers that cost as much as trucks being the solution?
@@TruthFiction If you drive long distances often, gas savings will pay for a battery pack quickly. Now the infrastructure is not there. It is coming.
@@TruthFiction There could also be trailers which use fuel-based generators for range extension. When an engine can be designed to run at a single load and power level it can be made simpler and more efficient than a standard automotive engine. They could also use other technologies like fuel cells.
7,000 lbs! Whoa, that is heavy.
Its 6,600-6,800# per other shared screenshots of cybertrucks reviews, the rivians weigh over 7,000 not the ct.
Same weight as the top trim lightnings and a loaded ram trx.
I'm scared to see any major accidents with the cybertruck.
Why
Because it weighs triple a normal sedan and is extremely rigid with bulletproof body panels.. @@larryspiller15
@@larryspiller15Lack of proper crumble zones. Seems a glaring omission of this channel to not address the safety concerns associated with this truck.
@coolcat23 lmfao have you looked into this at all???? The cybertruck does have crumple zones. Who knows if you're one of those with ulterior motives trying to spread negative propaganda or just such a simpleton that you believed those who said it doesn't have crumple zones.
@coolcat23 lmfao have you looked into this at all???? The cybertruck does have crumple zones. Who knows if you're one of those with ulterior motives trying to spread negative propaganda or just such a simpleton that you believed those who said it doesn't have crumple zones.
Good review. Another advantage of 48V vs 12V systems (5:15) is the operation of the Auto Stop (A) function, On 12V, you can feel a "Jolt" every time Auto Stop is engaged. On 48V systems, is seamless.
I don't think Auto Stop applies to electric vehicles.
The 48V system, not only reduces wire loom weight, but also the weight of all those motors, solenoids etc.
Not really, motors and solenoids mostly rely on current
@@11235but where's your concern with Ford trucks? Rivian vehicles, etc?
It's the same as with energy consumption, it has such a small impact that it can be neglected. If weight were important to them, they could get a lot more out of other areas. The decision not to include a spare wheel alone makes a bigger impact in terms of weight
I think the biggest advantage of a 48V system is cost saving. Normal cars has hundreds of meters of electrical wiring running in looms. These has to be manufactured and installed. If I am correct the Cybertruck uses ethernet cables. Cheaper and quicker to install than a bulky wiring loom, but when Sandy Munroe takes one apart we will get all the answers.
@@smalltime0 You'll never guess what pushes current through a wire :P
I was anxious the whole video watching this guy doing such nuanced explanations with his hands, all while driving and keeping an eye on the road 😅
This is his jam. He used to have to wear goggles to keep from poking himself in the eye.
Me too. Also, showing himself doing 42 in a 30 not so smart so perhaps he isn't (keeping an eye on the road). 🙂
The exterior might not dent easily, but I bet scratches will show even better than pained cars.
No scartches wont show up easily because stainless steel is hard while paint is soft. I dislike the cybertruck but the stainless steel is the best part about it. Though the difficulty of working stainless steel is ultimately the reason for its weird shape.
Stainless steel is great until you get it dented. You can’t repair a dent and you need to replace whole panel. Better hope it isn’t a structural part or it will be very expensive repair.
Both paint and steel, including stainless, scratch easily. Aluminum is soft but its oxide (same chemical compound as sapphire) is very hard. A ball of aluminum foil that’s oxidized will leave a mess of scratches in stainless. Al2O3 is what is used in scrubbing pads or sponges not meant for use on non-stick cookware. So, someone with a heavy duty Scotch-Brite sponge can really mess up that brushed stainless finish.
A scratch in stainless will take more work to buff out as you can’t use a light filler as you can with paint. Just consider it adding to the “character”.
@@mrmagic5508look at your fridge if it’s stainless steel and see how well it’s done. That’s in the confines of a home
@@11202 a better example is look at the delorean, they are 40 years old and generally there stainless panels are fine.
My 2012 Sonic LS has electric power steering that seamlessly, perfectly changes turning ratio according to speed. However, the steering wheel is still directly connected. There is peace of mind in that.
When you did your I2R loss calculation you forgot to increase the resistance due to the smaller gauge wire used
Engineers forget something? Surely you jest! its almost as if EE here is exactly the 'Engineer' that we *REAL* Mechanics *HATE* with absolute fire.
When you wrote this comment you forgot that while losses increase with the square of current, resistance increases as a linear inverse of the cross sectional area of wire used. So in his example, unless you use a gauge of wire with 1/16th the cross sectional area, you'll still come out ahead, even with the (very slightly) increased resistance. There's also the fact the wires are copper, so the resistance is not that high to begin with, plus the fact they're only like, ten to twenty feet long. So a slight increase in the resistance of the wires - and it will be very, very slight in absolute terms - will still be more than offset by the lower current.
@@rdormer the area increases as a square of the diameter, so saying it's linear to the cross sectional area still means it's a square increase
@@cleberz8072 I assume you mean the radius, and not the diameter? And I said linear increase with the *inverse* of the cross sectional area.
@@rdormer diameter is constant in regards to radius so it doesn't change the square relationship with the area. That's still within what you said (I might have not made it clear), the resistance increases linearly with the inverse of area increase (i.e., decreases), which is still a square decrease with the diameter increase (which has a constant ratio with the radius).
As far as wiring is concerned, the diameter is typically the relevant measure since they're approximately cilindrical.
Thinner 48 volt wiring may not last as long unless insulation is thicker particularly in a salty or wet environment.
How predictable is this variable and dynamic steering ratio in critical scenearios when you need to quick movements, like in moose test. Does it overshoot more than you expect?
About the same as trying to find the correct accelerator pedal position on a traction-limited emergency (i.e. don't want braking or accel). Can't easily find that position in a one-pedal-driving set-up.
Safety concerns should get more focus I think. Is this thing even legal in Europe? Triangular stainless steel hitting pedestrians sounds like a worse time than most other vehicles. No crumple zones sounds like a recipe for injured drivers after collisions. If the windows are too tough, the driver would be in a _lot_ of trouble if the battery caught fire (when the doors don't work, you need to be able to kick out the wind shield or a window to escape!).
My grandmother got her ct last weekend and she loves it
I don't understand the exitement about the variable steering ratio. Mechanical steering also comes with variable steering ratio. There are a lot of cars out there that have it. My car - not an expensive one - changes the steering ratio depending on the speed of the car but also on the angle of the steering wheel itself. It's much more intuitive than it sounds. Because the last x percent of the steering angle is only used when parking so it totally makes sense to increase the sensitivity even more in that range.
Variable Gearing Steering blew my mind... back in 2004 on a Honda S2000(can't believe Jason didn't mention it, maybe he didn't get a VGS model...)
@@AtlasJotununsure how his s2000 would be a variable ratio edition. Believe they’re confined to the Type V variant which is jdm market only - meaning RHD cars
@@peejayem4700 I knew they were model-dependent, and I should have guessed that (as usual) we didn't get the good stuff :.(
My thought on a full-size spare tire is a $7 *tire plug kit* from an auto store and an $13 Temu electric tire pump will get you out of 90+% of flat tire situations!
Especially if it's just to get to the next repair shop or to home. I've been driving with a plug in two tires for years.
Typically those tire plug kits spray product inside the tire such that it can never be repaired. You can get home and buy a new tire. Wait, that’s not really fair because you’ll probably have to buy two or four tires so that the wear is even.
@@JoeOvercoattire plug kits do not spray anything inside the tire. They are just a tool for reaming out the hole, and then a plug soaked in rubberized tar of some description that goes into that hole.
You're thinking of fix-a-flat type products, which indeed are a pain in the ass for the tire shop if you use them, and will often lead to them telling you you have to trash the tire.
@@JoeOvercoat *None* of the tire plug kits I've ever used required spraying anything in the tire.
Anyone who has taken their mountain bike in the sticks with tubeless tires would know that!
I appreciate that you support the positive engineering changes that Tesla brings.
I appreciate the fact that you think tesla is the one that created these technologies and they are not the tried and failed experiments of legacy car mfgs.
This is an American made, innovative truck that we should all support.
Not only does it tow short distances but you have to remove the trailer to charge every time. You're adding an extra hour to a 300 mile trip and getting out to unhook and hook the trailer 3 times assuming there is space to even do that. If you're towing something like a boat in your garage, 40 miles away to a lake and returning home for charging, you may be fine. Going back and forth to home depot, not so bad. Counting on the charging network in tow should be a very rare consideration, knowing the time and hassle.
I would say you might have to remove the trailer but not necessarily. Maybe you get a charge plug extension and just pull up near the charger
@@mshepard2264and take up 5 spots? are you being serious or just trolling?
I hook/unhook my trailer 2 or 3 times per day often and that ends up costing me 5 or 6 hours easily. (or maybe it was 5 or 6 minutes, I can't rightly recall)
There are some pull through Superchargers, but they don’t seem to be common yet.
I have a Jeep Wrangler Sport that I use for both street and off-road driving. After carrying around a spare for years in all situations I decided to stop carrying a spare except when off-roading. When I did carry a spare it was on a custom structure attached to the roll bars holding the spare up high. Even an extra 40 lbs or so up high made the Jeep rock from side to side too much when off roading. Now, when I am going off road I use a hitch mounted wheel carrier and remove it when back in town.
I would freak out not having one. To the point that when the spare was stolen from my Rubicon, I bought one the same day.
I think you can get away with it on roads, despite the annoyance, usually you can phone a tow. Off-road it gets a bit more serious.
Genuine question: how well would a appropriate tire repair kit and 12v powered air compressor to inflate work for off-road. From my understanding the tires are tougher and usually not super high pressure. What is the typical failure mode for tires in off-road? And could they be repaired?
@@thorwaldjohanson2526 As long as it's not sidewall damage you can repair anything, but I expect the damage will relate to the off roading you do.
Driving through sand probably no issues, but rocky terrain seems far more likely for something to puncture the sidewall.
The electric steering may not fail mechanically, but what happens when the sensors disagree (a la Boeing) or there is a bug in the software that says what steering ratio to use at a certain speed?
At least you won’t have a 35 thousand foot drop to contemplate all the bad decisions you made in your life.
@@etienneprinsloo6799the 35k ft drop is a safety feature, not a bug. I'm not even kidding. If things go wrong on an airliner at cruising altitude, they have not only a lot of time to fix it before SHTF, but also a lot of altitude that can be traded for gliding distance in the worst case. In a car, however, a catastrophic steering failure may well have you killed in mere seconds.
Cybertruck is cool, I've had a reservation for what, over 4 years now. I've also had a Rivian R1T for over 25k miles now. I haven't driven the Cybertruck yet, but I think the Rivian will still be my preferred pick...better visibility, my Quad is super fast and I got at Original pricing...better storage and something many forget, Rivian has a great suspension with the air and hydraulic roll control. Sometimes it looks like the Cybertruck is tipping over in corners. The Rivian is the EV Sport's Truck if you like driving.
If you like driving you like smaller cars.
Liked the review, but it seems like you forgot to mention the Etherloop that replaced the old CAN bus for the communication inside the vehicle. Franz said, you could hook up a laptop to it, open Wireshark and monitor the whole communication in the car. Suppose its not that easy but from an engineering / computer science standpoint its quite interesting
I've been a mechanic for 25 years, and I think this is one of the most exciting advancements I've seen in a long time. This is going to make diagnosing failures much faster and way more accurate, and will literally reduce the amount of wiring in a vehicle by 90+%.
90+%? sure :D@@kovacs88
Inside the vehicle ?? That’s old school you mean remotely with a laptop
All car manufacturers are moving in this direction. CAN bus in the automotive industry is dead. Ethernet standards like 10BASE-T1S, 100BASE-T1 and 1000BASE-T1 single pair Ethernet will be in every car soon.
Why couldn’t you just hook up a laptop and look at the CAN messages? 😂 No conceptual difference except likely harder with Ethernet in practice. Also plenty of CAN still used inside Cybertruck, just Ethernet to some modules and then CAN from those to others. Also gigabit ethernet is already used in many other vehicles and has been for some time.
Great video as always. Thanks for that. I generally trust technology, so drive by wire doesn't concern me. Yes, sometime down the road, after hundreds of thousands of Cyber trucks are on the road, someone will lose their life in an accident due to steering loss and that issue will be blown way out of proportion from what the probabilities actually are. Anyway, my biggest concern, living in Canada, is how that massive windshield wiper will hold up when the truck is covered with crusty snow or ice.
I'm pretty sure you can just open your front door ten minutes before leaving home and yell "Hey Tesla! Defrost the windscreen!"
Good point. I didn't think of that. That brings me to another point then. In the dead of winter when it's -25 degrees outside, does warming up the interior and defrosting the windshield before heading out, have significant impact on the range? Does keeping the interior warm while driving also have significant impact on the range, or is all of that insignificant?
There's a lot of technology on modern cars but two features that I'm eager to get on a car are a fingerprint scanner on the start/stop button and screens on the A pillars to cancel the blind spots
You mean the B pillars? You should not have any issue with blindspots with A pillars on any car. If you do you probably should not be driving. Why one earth would you want a biometric scanner in your car? You could easily bypass it like you can on phones.
@@corail53 it depends on the car, I had a Ford Focus and the drivers A pillar created a pretty big blind spot. I drive a Mercedes V Class and it has a very thick A pillar. The fingerprint scanner to start the engine like you unlock a phone
@@corail53Model 3 owner. And the A-pillar on that is already obstructive. The last bend before my home is exactly the radius that cars coming the opposite direction are invisible at corner entry. I drive left bends with my head moving side-to-side like a loon to make sure I can negate the effect.
@@robbybobbyhobbies Newer vehicles do have larger pillars, because there are airbags hidden in them. It's a small tradeoff to keep from bouncing your head off the pillars in an accident.
While I get the reactions to both the stalks and the spare tire. I'll have to say I do NOT miss stalks one bit. The execution of the haptic buttons is excellent and really shows how unnecessary stalks are, and they only exists because we got used to them. With the spare tire, I had a Tundra for a decade. I NEVER used the spare. I even had to buy a new one after 8 years because I checked the spare and it rotted and was no longer holding air. If you have to use a spare once in a decade, then why carry it around for all those other days? We're not in the oldie days. If you're really worried, have one in the garage, and get an uber to go and collect it and install. If you're away form home, get a tow to a tire shop and get a new tire. Yes, there may be a bit more inconvenience, and some time 'wasted', but that is once, in a decade. (I am assuming you are not flat tire prone)
the higher voltage also lets you have smaller protection equipment, which saves money as well
Regarding the steer by wire technique. Are there any markings on the components indicating who the supplier of the technology is or whether tesla developed it itself? ZF and schaeffler both say that they have a solution that is suitable for the mass market. Schaeffler has a cooperation with the German company paravan, which converts vehicles for the physically handicapped using Schaeffler's steer by wire technology. So far they have converted over 16000 vehicles.
Tesla does most of their stuff in-house so I imagine that would be the case for cybertruck
There is actually more steer by wire going on than people realize. There may be a traditional column involved, but if you get into the details you will find it is mechanically disconnected when the electric takes over.
Steer by wire. The foreign hackers appreciate the 24 hour cloud access to the vehicle to work on this new platform
Just because we can do it, doesn't mean we should. It's a NO from me for steer by wire.
Just because something has electronics doesn't mean hackers can do everything, life isn't a movie.
Pointless 'feature' ripe for exploits
@@cyjanek7818 So, you have a vehicle with a 24/7 connection to the internet, has a ton of software involved and you don't think it's hackable. HA ! What a tool.
If the tire inflation level can be controlled by pneumatics, unless you have a catastrophic blowout, or someone slashes your tires, I think that the pump can keep the tire inflated until you reach a service station or your home.
or... the tire inflators can have a 'runflat' chemical added via a secondary tank that can plug the leak temporarily till you can get the tire fixed. or you just pull over and shoot some fix-a-flat into the tire manually.
Not sure it makes sense to say the shape is a purely aesthetic decision when the underlying motivation was to avoid the cost of body-on-rails, leading to the structural skin or "exoskeleton" which in turn require thick steel which can't be stamped. And given that it had to be made up of few flat surfaces, the triangle design is more aerodynamic than anything more blocky like a pickup truck. So there are many functional engineering reasons for the shape.
It is not aerodynamic. The Rivian has a better coefficient of drag than the Cybertruck and is shaped like a pickup.
When you look at any Tesla vehicle shape they are all very basic because they do not have the design experience of any of the major auto manufacturers. Tesla does not have the manufacturing expertise or capability to build complex body shapes. As the technology of electric vehicles advances it will be easier to move an existing F150 or Silverado owner into an electric version.
@@mikeecker146 It is aerodynamic _given the constraints_ of the steel exoskeleton design, which requires using only a few flat panels (fiving the "low polygon" video game look). The cybertruck has six main surfaces. The "triangle" shape is about the best you can do for aerodynamics under these constraints. And it is better than most pickups. Everything is a trade-off in engineering. They save weight (no rails). They save money on paint. Manufacture is simplified in many ways.
@@frankking439 "...do not have the design experience..." That's a joke, right? Right? Oh not? Good grief, the sheer ignorance of this comment. Legacy auto is _crippled_ by its "experience", trapped in old ways of doing things. Tesla is years ahead on not just EV powertrains, but advance body designs & manufacturing techniques, and continues to innovate. And btw, complexity is not a virtue. Good engineers simplify. You make something more complex only when absolutely necessary. That said, there's nothing excessively simple about Models S, X, 3 & Y bodies. And Tesla achieves things with each of those that would be legacy auto's wet dream.
The deceptively simple shape of CT is the result of _removing_ rails, as in "body on rails" that ever other pickup is built on, and replacing them with 3mm steel for body panels that provide much of the support, and far more _rigidity_ than is possible for regular pickups. And this is done for less overall weight for the body which helps offset the weight of the batteries. You can't stamp 3mm steel into fancy curved body panels, which is why CT is made up of simple flat surfaces.
Ford is struggling to scale F150 Lightning production and must sell them at a huge loss. CT will ramp to 250K/year before you know it.
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