If you're wondering about the V8, 3-cylinder, or LST, I have videos covering all three in detail! The engineering of each is fascinating! How TFG Engine Works - th-cam.com/video/WwlNqaz9q_0/w-d-xo.html How Koenisgsegg's 5.0L V8 Engine Works - th-cam.com/video/9u6iW07ixKw/w-d-xo.html How LST Transmission Works - th-cam.com/video/MSxQtHOfljE/w-d-xo.html I hope to cover the Dark Matter motor and how it works; still trying to get more information on it!
I agree with you on the small complaint regarding the V8 engine option. Although the Jesko V8 is certainly cool, the TFG is one of the things that makes the Gemera unique, and suddenly deciding to allow customers to have a Jesko V8 instead kind of kills all of the hard work that went into making the TFG. I just hope that there are some gazillionaires out there that appreciate the unique engineering of the 3-cylinder and choose it instead of the V8.
Jason - how about some maths to estimate the acceleration of this thing. Weight will probably be ~1800kg - 1950kg dry - you could estimate from there, and have educated guesses about the curb weight, aerodynamic Cd, frontal area, and rolling resistance, and say use the Jesko gearing ... Koenigsegg even trot out a 1.11hp per kg model - and yet say it weighs well under 2000kg ??? You're the genius ! You work it out 😄
I think the 3 cilinder option might be faster around a track. It's lighter & there might not be a lot of top end >2000hp need around a curvy track. The V8 is definitely a straight line record beating beast.
I really like Koenigsegg's attitude. As long as rich people are willing to throw money at him, why not just go wild with engines and performance and create something insane, like this.
This is true, but these technologies can potentially trickle down to us mere common folk too.....maybe decades from now, but eventually I would assume!!??
I have heard that one of the things that makes them different is that they fabricate everything in house. Having the ability to make anything you want to meet a certain spec is pretty powerful.
@@jsheradin Its still not as easy as you'd think. You still have to make 1 of them, so the design still needs to work. The only exception I can think of is a multi-stage herringbone planetary gearbox I designed. You might be wondering, how do you access the screws that become that embedded? Well you still need access holes... The assembly process even with that would make all but the best child labor break down and cry, and why we don't see herringbone multi-stage planetary gearboxes!
So with the speed vectoring it's essentially a ratio of clutch slippage to various points, so functionally this is the equivalent of endless power shifting. That's the worst thing you can do for clutch longevity.
@@kevindodd4363Honda does the exact same thing in their SH-AWD system and it does not have any issues with durability. I own a Honda Legend (Acura RL) with more than 200k kms on the clock and it has no issues.
@@kevindodd4363 yep but also its a multi million dollar car. Honestly i don´t think clutches would be that expensive for koenigsegg to produce, it´s probably just some carbon composite disc.
My brain simply cannot fathom the 40kg /800bhp electric motor in this car. Koenigsegg is right there among the greatest engineers and car manufacturers in the history of automotive. The man is a hard working genius.
Imagine if Koenigsegg made an electric motorcycle. If they could keep the power density, they could make a 200 hp motor that weights 10 kg. Imagine a bike the wight of a Honda grom with 200 hp.
@@superfluous9726They did, it’s called the Quark motor. The heavier one in the Gemera is the Dark Matter motor, but the Quark has similar power density and weighs about 80% less.
I still want the 2020 Gemera drivetrain to happen though. Such a great successor of the RWD opnly Gemera. I'd very much want to see it in a lower cost vehicle. Scale down the power, stick it in a somewhat affordable sports car. Imagine the Lotus Emira, getting a still smaller 400 hp engine, and 600 hp or so in 3 MGUs like 2020 Gemera, half the battery size or less and that torque converter. Gear it not for 400+ kph like the 2020 Gemera, but to 260 kph or so. That makes the ICE torque to suffice at much lower speeds, aided by a lower weight than Gemera as well. Should be such a satisfying way to drive... 9 gears is just meh. Their manual 6 speed from that 9 speed is a wonderful thing, let it rev out a bit!
Thank you so much for explaining this. These numbers are out of this world!! You have the ability to make work from the worlds best engineers clear and understandable for a whole lot more people. That's a gift not many people have. Thnx again!
This car is so insane that the discussions you get into regarding power and run times are just ridiculous. How long could you run with 2,300 horsepower is literally a question no one has ever asked. It's just pure insanity and I love it!
With the 1000hp from a Tesla it is asked, and the answer is: you can't, overheating. May well be the case with Gemera as well, just not needed to allow instant drain. With a hybrid though, you kind of want to keep access to battery boost, and not spend too much time and fuel replenshing it.
@@Cloxxkiyea i wonder how long the gemera will be able to run at full power im sure it won’t matter since most people who buy this car will ever use it all 2,300 hp is literal drag car status it’s crazy
My favorite quote from the video.... "If you NEED 2300 hp, whenever you put your foot down it's gonna be there"... The key word being NEED. I just tried explaining to my wife why one would need 2300hp. I don't think I convinced her!
"Ok honey, so imagine if the earth slows down and you need to speed it back up again, Koenigsegg makes this amazing car which if you're facing west and you put your foot down...."
I'd love to see you do some graphs and Pointless Math ™ about efficiency of an engine across different RPM and load. I frequently hear people quote a single number for engine efficiency - but I know that's just it's peak efficiency at design point (cruising on a freeway), and I know (from experiments in a lab) efficiency varies wildly. Would be great to characterize that and explore what it means in real-world driving - and thus explain the potential for hybrids.
I love your pointless math here. 84 seconds and 14 minutes of max power output sounds ridiculous until- you think about 14 minutes of travel, making 2300 hp! You would be racing the space shuttle!
@@timothyjamieson1282 When gearing the thing for 550 kph, the ICE could bring the car up to 480-500 kph first, after which the battery help comes in for it's job. Let's say power tapers a bit, so you get 100 seconds after all with 2300 at drag-to-power-equilibrium. Yes at 530 kph average those 100 seconds despatch us 14.7 kilometers. I'm sporty but rarely ran that far in a single workout :-)
As much as i am a petrolhead, if I had unlimited money, I'd really get two damn Gemera's, one with the V8 and one with the TFG lol. The engineer nerd in me just cannot believe that an engine like that can belt out 600hp. Not even talking about the 39kg motor making 800hp. What the f Koenigsegg?!!! Simply one of the greatest cars I've seen in recent times, if not ever!
I wonder if you contacted Christian and requested a factory visit and interview, whether he, and you, would entertain the idea? You have the engineering prowess to actually discuss matters with Christian on a similar level. I always enjoy your vehicle reviews since they are different and genuinely informative versus the vast amount of TH-cam rubbish masquerading as car reviews and reviewers.
Christian has catered to more hype TH-camrs a lot. He may well be game. Just be prepared to fly over, dude has a work day to complete in Sweden. Now that he's getting very close in business sense to the Mr JWW channel, I can imagine other regular hype TH-camrs will get limited allocations to CvK's precious press time.
If you ever do come over for an interview and tour, I'd be happy to make the trip and bring my video gear from Stockholm to Ängelholm to film your visit and meet you both!
Jason, Ive been watching your vids for a decade now and youve motivated me to study automotive technology and now im currently working on my ASE certifications and i just want to say thanks so much for all your content over the years and thanks for giving me the desire to want to always learn more!
For those worried about the clutches durability - Honda's SH-AWD system is a bit similar and with regular oil changes it lasts. Yes, this thing does spit out much more power, but as Jason would tell you, it is all a matter of math. You can design it as durable as you want...
This is like one of those mega cars you see in something like Cyberpunk with 2,000+hp and can last for days without recharging; this feels ahead of it's time in a way
Koenigsegg is without a doubt the most innovative and interesting car manufaturer around. Im not a huge fan of their cars, but the tech and engineering is just ridiculous.
Now that's something that you can go 300 Miles per hour with your family. Thank you CVK. Edit: Two of the Dark matter E-motors can beat a Bugatti Chiron which is 25 times the weight. Respect++ to these absolute gods of carmaking.
So the full power from dark matter is 83 seconds which should be enough to do one lap of Spa Francorchamps without requiring regeneration on the straights. The lap would be about 120 seconds and requires full throttle for 80% of the lap meaning you need 96 seconds of battery power. You should be able to get the required extra power from regeneration in the breaking zones. You would then need a cool down - battery charging lap before you could try again. This is a real world example of when you need that much power that I'm surprised EE didn't think of.
This video clears up sooo much. I was still under the impression that the engine would still be only sending power to the front wheels like in the 2020 concept before this. I was really questioning how in the world they thought sending 1500 to the front was a good idea😂
Even in the first concept, I never really got why they went with the hassle of a drive shaft going through the whole vehicle, instead of just having an electric motor in the front and one or two (plus the ICE) in the back. Basically like a Toyota, but the correct way around 😉
I needed to hear about the clutches to somehow enable "true" torque vectoring. I'm a slightly skeptical on how well that will work. Won't those get hot? The unusually short presentation did make it clear the rear wheels were now driven. A lot of the changes make sense, but the 2020 configuration is super cool. I just think that with the high top speed geared for, and less than half as powerful engine versus the Regera's, it was a pain to make it all work. In a 250 kph luxury car vs a 400+ kph hypercar, it may have been a breeze to install, even if flipped front to back as practical road car tend to have the engine in the front where it's easy to make room. Now with the gearbox, the energy flow will work out much better on the 3-cyl based system, and to everyone's surprise, the V8 can be made to fit as well. To drive teh front axle with the V8 doesn't make sense, why even look? But to now manage that and put 3 carry-on back behind it even...madness in a 4seater that looks like a 2-seater. Best car ever. Bugatti looks utterly foolish now. Can't wait to see what the Bugatti/Rimac collab brings from them next. I suspect a "bland" V12, maybe with 4 light motors, one per wheel, and same weight as the W16 cars of old.
Complicated is interesting from an engineering standpoint, but in my version I'd put 4 of those Dark Matter babies in there, one for each wheel. All the engines, gearboxes, clutches... can go.
Then you're stuck with a package in need of large batteries, and you no longer have a car that's under 2 tons. As it currently stands the Gemera is a 4-seater hybrid weighing something like 1900kg, making 2300 hp. Contrast that with a Rimac Nevera that's a 2 seater weighing 2300kg, making 1900hp... The serendipity of the Gemera and Nevera numbers being reversed is a poetic reminder that the EV has not yet caught up to the hybrid.
Haha, I mean at 0 mph, for sure, you're not gonna put down 2,300 HP. But as you get to higher speeds, which this vehicle is capable of, then you start to be able to use all the power, since you're working against aero losses.
I was worried about tires and chains when my old bike (power of a lawn mower) was stretching chains and ruining tires in 2k miles, then got a bike that could still pull a wheelie at faster than top speed of my other bike. Thinking about it though its torque (force at that distance) that is the real issue. Truly the max torque was still the same because max torque until doing a wheelie is simply CG distance x weight, the tire cannot exceed this at any speed (at least for long without flipping the bike). Both bikes are therefore limited to the same torque, and with similar front sprockets (rear sprocket does not matter for max chain tension, only front sprocket size, smaller creates larger tension) then the chain really isn't stressed much more even with 10x the power. Always trippy thinking about it, but the force at the rubber of the tire is the same (unless doing burnouts), its just physics. Only difference is you can keep that max torque at higher rpm (wheel speeds).
@@EngineeringExplained Is it possible to calculate the speed this car has to reach before it can put down all its power without breaking traction? I have the feeling the number is unreasonably high, lol.
That is incredibly cool. I'm a little sad that the TFG is likely going away though. I think that's a super cool engine & I thought it was necessary for this 4 person hypercar to exist.
So did Koenigsegg. They we're only planning to release the car with the TFG. Then the engineers had a crazy idea that actually worked. They explain it in the launch event video
when asked about plans for an SUV when the Gemera was first announced, Koenigsegg dismissed the category outright, claiming a Van does everything most people actually use SUVs for better. i wouldn"t be surprised at a van with a modified TFG Gemera drivetrain coming out eventually
As soon as I watched Koenigsegg's announcement, I couldn't wait for you to make a video explaining it! As surely as Koenigsegg doesn't disappoint, EE doesn't fail to deliver 👌
Christian has achieved eons of men's dreams in building cost and engineering no object toys! Bravo! Now to only figure out how to experience these for myself!
The Gemera is and likely will be the ultimate ultra/hyper car that will be built in our time. Super/Hypers having always and will always be amazing, but offering a 4 seat option that I can take my wife, son, and luggage with me really takes the cake. I hope I get to see one and possibly even ride in one some day. Such an incredible feat of engineering!
I enjoy your presentations. There may be some folks that live in the midwest that will gladly debate you on long straight roads. It's understood your intention is a closed course safe environment. Hence the salt flats. Have a great day.
Seeing how small and powerful they managed to make that dark matter motor makes me wonder what sort of wizardry they could come up with in the future. Also I'd love to get my hands on that dark matter or quark motor just to tinker with.
Thanks for another great video! This car is really impressive from an engineering point of view. One thing that comes to mind is that aestetically at least the rear, really looks like a porche cayman. This is basically the really hot cayman porche never built!
I want one. Or two. Koenigsegg has been my dream car since his first production model. Each new model in prettier than the last. They are gorgeous and as fast as they look.
My is that guess is that Koenigsegg are having problems with the 3-cylinder engines free valve technology (and possible vibrations) and want customers to take the V8 option instead.
Now imagine a pure EV with a dark matter motor on each wheel. Over 3000hp total with all of them together weighing under 160kg (and no clutches or gearboxes needed). Naturally it would have to have an absolutely massive battery in order to produce that much power but damn.
There's a public road in southern Australia that's pretty much dead straight for I think 96km. Not going to make any claims about how safe it would be to pin the Gemera along there (road condition, room for error, etc) but ... the road is there
Love this video. I expected cluthc magic to be involved, and it's better than I thought it would be. And I wrote on a complex hybrid patent application once, 16 pages. Some German dude had already done the same prior and sat on his patent... Koenigsegg has been vocal about designing MGUs (e motors) to a specific desired RPM, for direct drive applications such as in eVTOL, to save weight and complexity. In NOPE mode it sure helps as well. Love it. It probably doesn't help to engage all clutches, but they could. Even on a top speed run it's probably better to keep from and rear disconnected, just let the MGU keep pulling on the front while the gearbox does its shifts for the rear axle. Although...if the front axle can't handle all the torque the MGU has to offer, perhaps torque fill to the rear actually doees make sense, hmmm...The clutch would need to be less than close shut I guess to prevent catatrophic binding.
I saw a video in which Christian serious said that it's possible to put 3 child seats in the Gemera ... And have a rack on top of the car ... And still go 300km/h
I could see people buying the TFG in the case they are actually using the Gemera as intended. I think I heard it said that someone buying a Koenigsegg has one already or many other hyper/super cars. That being said they might buy a Gemera as a "family" car so the gas mileage might be a bonus. Plus saying your 3 cylinder makes 600 HP is pretty awesome!
Great Pronunciation of Jesko and Gemera . Great Job . It's like you have never watched one video from Koenigsegg or any other source that pronounce the words correctly .
For a point of reference regarding the 84 seconds at 2300hp, Koenigsegg released a video where they take this car from 0 to 250MPH and back to 0 within 30 seconds (assuming I haven't mixed up Koenigsegg hyper cars). So, uh, yeah, like the video says, there is almost nowhere on Earth where you can actually apply that kind of horsepower for that full duration. 😅 Fantastic video! 👌😊
@@richardmillhousenixon no, the regera is a hybrid too. With it's 4.5 kWh battery and 520 kW of electric power, it can output full e-power for a bit over half a minute before the battery runs out the engine is the only part delivering power. However, like the Gemera, the Regera is constantly recharging its battery whenever the gas pedal isn't being fully pressed. So running out of battery is realistically not an issue.
Koenigsegg - the best performance car maker in the world. No one is even close. And it all started with a man in Sweden, and his dream. His dream of building... the best performance car in the world.
Super interesting to think about durations of max power for "normal" cars as a comparison. For example, a 300hp engine with a 16 gallon fuel tank could run for about 36 minutes at peak power. Or an economy car with 135hp and a 12 gallon fuel tank could run for just over 1 hour.
Koenigsegg is the opposite of Tesla. Tesla is engineering for reducing complexity. As Elon says, “the best part is no part.” While Koenigsegg is going for more complication. But I guess for customers who can afford millions for a vehicle paying thousands on repair for a overly complicated vehicle engine isn’t an problem.
I REALLY hope they aren't trying to kill the TFG, but they might be doing it because the TFG isn't really ready yet, and they're trying to buy them selves some more time before they have to actually deliver a TFG?
If you're wondering about the V8, 3-cylinder, or LST, I have videos covering all three in detail! The engineering of each is fascinating!
How TFG Engine Works - th-cam.com/video/WwlNqaz9q_0/w-d-xo.html
How Koenisgsegg's 5.0L V8 Engine Works - th-cam.com/video/9u6iW07ixKw/w-d-xo.html
How LST Transmission Works - th-cam.com/video/MSxQtHOfljE/w-d-xo.html
I hope to cover the Dark Matter motor and how it works; still trying to get more information on it!
I agree with you on the small complaint regarding the V8 engine option. Although the Jesko V8 is certainly cool, the TFG is one of the things that makes the Gemera unique, and suddenly deciding to allow customers to have a Jesko V8 instead kind of kills all of the hard work that went into making the TFG. I just hope that there are some gazillionaires out there that appreciate the unique engineering of the 3-cylinder and choose it instead of the V8.
The relaxing whiteboard step by step explanation never gets old!
@@beanapprentice1687 If I was actually driving my kids around in this thing, I dont think I would opt for the 8 cyl.
Jason - how about some maths to estimate the acceleration of this thing. Weight will probably be ~1800kg - 1950kg dry - you could estimate from there, and have educated guesses about the curb weight, aerodynamic Cd, frontal area, and rolling resistance, and say use the Jesko gearing ...
Koenigsegg even trot out a 1.11hp per kg model - and yet say it weighs well under 2000kg ???
You're the genius ! You work it out 😄
I think the 3 cilinder option might be faster around a track. It's lighter & there might not be a lot of top end >2000hp need around a curvy track. The V8 is definitely a straight line record beating beast.
I love how Koenigsegg solution to every drivetrain engineering issue is just to throw clutches at it
As long as they open by default I don't see a Problem.
With that much power to deal with that must be some beefy clutches here..
When you're as good at building clutches as Koenigsegg, why not.
Regera..?
Didn't they make one with like, no gears, or anything, before?
I really like Koenigsegg's attitude. As long as rich people are willing to throw money at him, why not just go wild with engines and performance and create something insane, like this.
Exactly my thought 👏
This is true, but these technologies can potentially trickle down to us mere common folk too.....maybe decades from now, but eventually I would assume!!??
I remember listening to the Gemera presentation and wondering what sort of dark magic they perform at Koenigsegg. I'm in awe of their engineers.
I have heard that one of the things that makes them different is that they fabricate everything in house. Having the ability to make anything you want to meet a certain spec is pretty powerful.
It's Dark Matter, not Dark Magic. Keep up! /j
A lot of engineering hurdles go away when you don't care about how much something costs and only need to make a few dozen of them.
@@jsheradin Its still not as easy as you'd think. You still have to make 1 of them, so the design still needs to work.
The only exception I can think of is a multi-stage herringbone planetary gearbox I designed. You might be wondering, how do you access the screws that become that embedded? Well you still need access holes... The assembly process even with that would make all but the best child labor break down and cry, and why we don't see herringbone multi-stage planetary gearboxes!
@@fullrulle77he didn’t say it was called that, when he said “dark magic” it’s just an expression. Keep up!
Between all the clutches in this and the light speed transmission, I think we can safely say Koenigsegg is pivoting to clutch production very soon.
Koenigsegg heard you like clutches, so...
@@EngineeringExplainedKoenigsegg will be the final boss of HyperCar industry....
I love this company since 2012...
Still amazes me 😊❤🎉
So with the speed vectoring it's essentially a ratio of clutch slippage to various points, so functionally this is the equivalent of endless power shifting. That's the worst thing you can do for clutch longevity.
@@kevindodd4363Honda does the exact same thing in their SH-AWD system and it does not have any issues with durability. I own a Honda Legend (Acura RL) with more than 200k kms on the clock and it has no issues.
@@kevindodd4363 yep but also its a multi million dollar car. Honestly i don´t think clutches would be that expensive for koenigsegg to produce, it´s probably just some carbon composite disc.
My brain simply cannot fathom the 40kg /800bhp electric motor in this car. Koenigsegg is right there among the greatest engineers and car manufacturers in the history of automotive.
The man is a hard working genius.
I'm guessing it almost has to be Rimac technology?
He just loves what he does…100%
Imagine if Koenigsegg made an electric motorcycle.
If they could keep the power density, they could make a 200 hp motor that weights 10 kg.
Imagine a bike the wight of a Honda grom with 200 hp.
@@superfluous9726They did, it’s called the Quark motor. The heavier one in the Gemera is the Dark Matter motor, but the Quark has similar power density and weighs about 80% less.
40 КГ - ЭТО ОТДЕЛЬНАЯ МАШИНА, МИНИ ИЛИ КОМПАКТ ИЛИ ХЭТЧ
Koenigsegg always coming out with new innovations is why I love them so much
They do have such a fun track record of clever inventions, it's awesome!
Casually mentioning the transmission is wrapped AROUND the engine. Insane
New innovations are so much better than old innovations.
I still want the 2020 Gemera drivetrain to happen though. Such a great successor of the RWD opnly Gemera.
I'd very much want to see it in a lower cost vehicle. Scale down the power, stick it in a somewhat affordable sports car. Imagine the Lotus Emira, getting a still smaller 400 hp engine, and 600 hp or so in 3 MGUs like 2020 Gemera, half the battery size or less and that torque converter. Gear it not for 400+ kph like the 2020 Gemera, but to 260 kph or so. That makes the ICE torque to suffice at much lower speeds, aided by a lower weight than Gemera as well. Should be such a satisfying way to drive... 9 gears is just meh. Their manual 6 speed from that 9 speed is a wonderful thing, let it rev out a bit!
@@gerry343agree. And by a lot.
Thank you so much for explaining this. These numbers are out of this world!! You have the ability to make work from the worlds best engineers clear and understandable for a whole lot more people. That's a gift not many people have. Thnx again!
Thanks for watching, appreciate the kind words!
@@EngineeringExplainedI posit that this is your calling in this life. Keep up what you do!
@@EngineeringExplained wheres my tfg inline 3 gmat43
This car is so insane that the discussions you get into regarding power and run times are just ridiculous. How long could you run with 2,300 horsepower is literally a question no one has ever asked. It's just pure insanity and I love it!
With the 1000hp from a Tesla it is asked, and the answer is: you can't, overheating. May well be the case with Gemera as well, just not needed to allow instant drain.
With a hybrid though, you kind of want to keep access to battery boost, and not spend too much time and fuel replenshing it.
@@Cloxxkiyea i wonder how long the gemera will be able to run at full power im sure it won’t matter since most people who buy this car will ever use it all 2,300 hp is literal drag car status it’s crazy
I’m sure the tires will stop you from putting down 2300 hp long before you run out of gas or battery charge
My favorite quote from the video.... "If you NEED 2300 hp, whenever you put your foot down it's gonna be there"... The key word being NEED. I just tried explaining to my wife why one would need 2300hp. I don't think I convinced her!
"Ok honey, so imagine if the earth slows down and you need to speed it back up again, Koenigsegg makes this amazing car which if you're facing west and you put your foot down...."
@@ohedd"Oh Gawd I don't care , I'm into makeup stuffs and all only " 🤓
Me:😾 ( about to sell the wife)
If you need to shut up your entire family press the scream pedal
To quote Kylo Ren: *"More, MORE, MOOOOOORE"* Swedish pun intended
For those who doesn't get the Swedish pun, Gemera=ge mera=give more
@jompazx1272 appreciate you!
You win a cookie😂
That was such an obscure pun that I didn't even connect the dots, and I'm Swedish.
I'd love to see you do some graphs and Pointless Math ™ about efficiency of an engine across different RPM and load. I frequently hear people quote a single number for engine efficiency - but I know that's just it's peak efficiency at design point (cruising on a freeway), and I know (from experiments in a lab) efficiency varies wildly. Would be great to characterize that and explore what it means in real-world driving - and thus explain the potential for hybrids.
This video explains exactly what you're asking about! It's referred to as Brake Specific Fuel Consumption. th-cam.com/video/jagNsS9MxFQ/w-d-xo.html
@@EngineeringExplained Awesome, thanks!
I love your pointless math here. 84 seconds and 14 minutes of max power output sounds ridiculous until- you think about 14 minutes of travel, making 2300 hp! You would be racing the space shuttle!
@@timothyjamieson1282 When gearing the thing for 550 kph, the ICE could bring the car up to 480-500 kph first, after which the battery help comes in for it's job. Let's say power tapers a bit, so you get 100 seconds after all with 2300 at drag-to-power-equilibrium. Yes at 530 kph average those 100 seconds despatch us 14.7 kilometers. I'm sporty but rarely ran that far in a single workout :-)
As much as i am a petrolhead, if I had unlimited money, I'd really get two damn Gemera's, one with the V8 and one with the TFG lol. The engineer nerd in me just cannot believe that an engine like that can belt out 600hp. Not even talking about the 39kg motor making 800hp. What the f Koenigsegg?!!! Simply one of the greatest cars I've seen in recent times, if not ever!
imagine a V8 freevalve with 8-1 exhaust, thanks to freevalve you can choose if it sounds like ferrari or have a raw sound
I wonder if you contacted Christian and requested a factory visit and interview, whether he, and you, would entertain the idea? You have the engineering prowess to actually discuss matters with Christian on a similar level. I always enjoy your vehicle reviews since they are different and genuinely informative versus the vast amount of TH-cam rubbish masquerading as car reviews and reviewers.
Christian has catered to more hype TH-camrs a lot. He may well be game. Just be prepared to fly over, dude has a work day to complete in Sweden. Now that he's getting very close in business sense to the Mr JWW channel, I can imagine other regular hype TH-camrs will get limited allocations to CvK's precious press time.
If you ever do come over for an interview and tour, I'd be happy to make the trip and bring my video gear from Stockholm to Ängelholm to film your visit and meet you both!
@@DaneRThomas Can I tag along and ask geeky questions? :-D I don't ask autographs or anything, promise.
The Gemera means "Give more!!". Oh boy did it give a LOT more than anyone imagined! 😊❤🎉
Your koenigsegg videos are always great, that and tires, tires are pretty cool as well.
Simple guy, I just like Koenigsegg & tires!
@@EngineeringExplainedsame 😂
I like Koenigsegg and all too 😂
Jason,
Ive been watching your vids for a decade now and youve motivated me to study automotive technology and now im currently working on my ASE certifications and i just want to say thanks so much for all your content over the years and thanks for giving me the desire to want to always learn more!
That's awesome, happy to hear it, and best of luck with your certifications!! 🙏
@EngineeringExplained woah so stoked to get a reply from you haha thanks brother! Take care!
For those worried about the clutches durability - Honda's SH-AWD system is a bit similar and with regular oil changes it lasts. Yes, this thing does spit out much more power, but as Jason would tell you, it is all a matter of math. You can design it as durable as you want...
Yes, I was going to buy this but I’m a bit worried about the durability. Think I have to think twice…
This is like one of those mega cars you see in something like Cyberpunk with 2,000+hp and can last for days without recharging; this feels ahead of it's time in a way
I know ow the V8 is nuts but I3 is also crazy.
@@lAscendantlright? How the hell did they manage to get it to 600hp
Koenigsegg is without a doubt the most innovative and interesting car manufaturer around. Im not a huge fan of their cars, but the tech and engineering is just ridiculous.
absolutely love this content!!! the "pointless math" really helps you wrap your mind around the sheer capability of this monster!
“Pointless math” reveals how pointless the questions are.
Very functional editing, thank you for educating us car guys. ❤
Now that's something that you can go 300 Miles per hour with your family. Thank you CVK.
Edit: Two of the Dark matter E-motors can beat a Bugatti Chiron which is 25 times the weight. Respect++ to these absolute gods of carmaking.
the "dark matter" motor is nothing new. ferrari and mercedes use them too.
The engine in a Chiron doesn't weigh 2000 kg...
Buckle up, we're going to Florida.
Shouldn't we take a plane?
We'll beat the plane.
@@sayeedalsifat1308I AGREE with Your point
@@stefanweilhartner4415Dark Matter Motor is the Power to weight and Most powerful E-motor ever created for automobile...
Finally, a hybrid that I like. Now, I'm sitting here thinking if I sold everything I own, I still couldn't buy this it. 😢
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I shall assist you in your endeavors
Do u have a nagging wife? She might be worth some cash if her organs are in shape. :)
I was eagerly waiting for your post. Really explain it well.
So the full power from dark matter is 83 seconds which should be enough to do one lap of Spa Francorchamps without requiring regeneration on the straights.
The lap would be about 120 seconds and requires full throttle for 80% of the lap meaning you need 96 seconds of battery power. You should be able to get the required extra power from regeneration in the breaking zones. You would then need a cool down - battery charging lap before you could try again.
This is a real world example of when you need that much power that I'm surprised EE didn't think of.
What an amazing engineering channel, hard to wait when the app tells me there is a new video
Those translucent images of the gearbox gets me so excited 🤤
This video clears up sooo much. I was still under the impression that the engine would still be only sending power to the front wheels like in the 2020 concept before this. I was really questioning how in the world they thought sending 1500 to the front was a good idea😂
Haha 1500 HP V8 FWD is a bold choice!
@@EngineeringExplained hopefully that is one of the driving mode. If so they should call it saab-mode.
@@EngineeringExplainedespecially when crusing at high speeds for better efficiency ❤
Even in the first concept, I never really got why they went with the hassle of a drive shaft going through the whole vehicle, instead of just having an electric motor in the front and one or two (plus the ICE) in the back. Basically like a Toyota, but the correct way around 😉
I needed to hear about the clutches to somehow enable "true" torque vectoring. I'm a slightly skeptical on how well that will work. Won't those get hot? The unusually short presentation did make it clear the rear wheels were now driven. A lot of the changes make sense, but the 2020 configuration is super cool. I just think that with the high top speed geared for, and less than half as powerful engine versus the Regera's, it was a pain to make it all work. In a 250 kph luxury car vs a 400+ kph hypercar, it may have been a breeze to install, even if flipped front to back as practical road car tend to have the engine in the front where it's easy to make room.
Now with the gearbox, the energy flow will work out much better on the 3-cyl based system, and to everyone's surprise, the V8 can be made to fit as well. To drive teh front axle with the V8 doesn't make sense, why even look? But to now manage that and put 3 carry-on back behind it even...madness in a 4seater that looks like a 2-seater. Best car ever. Bugatti looks utterly foolish now. Can't wait to see what the Bugatti/Rimac collab brings from them next. I suspect a "bland" V12, maybe with 4 light motors, one per wheel, and same weight as the W16 cars of old.
There's a lot of existing cartech but Königsegg always takes it a couple of steps further than everyone else. Such an amazing company 😊
Finally, I was waiting for this video, awesome work as always!
Complicated is interesting from an engineering standpoint, but in my version I'd put 4 of those Dark Matter babies in there, one for each wheel. All the engines, gearboxes, clutches... can go.
Then you're stuck with a package in need of large batteries, and you no longer have a car that's under 2 tons. As it currently stands the Gemera is a 4-seater hybrid weighing something like 1900kg, making 2300 hp. Contrast that with a Rimac Nevera that's a 2 seater weighing 2300kg, making 1900hp... The serendipity of the Gemera and Nevera numbers being reversed is a poetic reminder that the EV has not yet caught up to the hybrid.
Fantastically informative video.. Just a request.. Could you please make a video explaining the tech behind Dark Matter?
Awesome car….awesome technology….and the only channel that can properly explain it all. Thanks! 👍
I'm surprised you didn't remind us there are no tires available to make use of all that HP!
Haha, I mean at 0 mph, for sure, you're not gonna put down 2,300 HP. But as you get to higher speeds, which this vehicle is capable of, then you start to be able to use all the power, since you're working against aero losses.
I was worried about tires and chains when my old bike (power of a lawn mower) was stretching chains and ruining tires in 2k miles, then got a bike that could still pull a wheelie at faster than top speed of my other bike. Thinking about it though its torque (force at that distance) that is the real issue. Truly the max torque was still the same because max torque until doing a wheelie is simply CG distance x weight, the tire cannot exceed this at any speed (at least for long without flipping the bike). Both bikes are therefore limited to the same torque, and with similar front sprockets (rear sprocket does not matter for max chain tension, only front sprocket size, smaller creates larger tension) then the chain really isn't stressed much more even with 10x the power.
Always trippy thinking about it, but the force at the rubber of the tire is the same (unless doing burnouts), its just physics. Only difference is you can keep that max torque at higher rpm (wheel speeds).
@@EngineeringExplained Is it possible to calculate the speed this car has to reach before it can put down all its power without breaking traction? I have the feeling the number is unreasonably high, lol.
@@jakegarrett8109 input torque identical, aero irrelevant.
Wheel speed vs gearbox speed is the difference
we all know how much jason love tire
but the video is missing the most important info..
can it drive over speedbumps ? does it have hydralic to raise the car ?
That is incredibly cool.
I'm a little sad that the TFG is likely going away though. I think that's a super cool engine & I thought it was necessary for this 4 person hypercar to exist.
TFG is not going anywhere.
Clients will just probably choose V8 over inline 3.
So did Koenigsegg. They we're only planning to release the car with the TFG. Then the engineers had a crazy idea that actually worked. They explain it in the launch event video
when asked about plans for an SUV when the Gemera was first announced, Koenigsegg dismissed the category outright, claiming a Van does everything most people actually use SUVs for better.
i wouldn"t be surprised at a van with a modified TFG Gemera drivetrain coming out eventually
I'd love to see the TFG get more use. TFG hot hatch anyone?
@@SuperSpruce that would be the hottest hatch in the goddamn world
As soon as I watched Koenigsegg's announcement, I couldn't wait for you to make a video explaining it! As surely as Koenigsegg doesn't disappoint, EE doesn't fail to deliver 👌
I love Koenigsegg's wacky engineering solutions, they're always novel and unique.
12:25 yeah I mean the fastest cars can reach their top speed within around 20-30 seconds so 84 seconds of 2300hp is amazing
Egg man genius at it again.. 🤞🏼
I have been working in the high and low volt field for 30 years and combustion engines as a hobby- this blows my mind 🤔💥💯
This is awesome! Great explanation as always!
Christian has achieved eons of men's dreams in building cost and engineering no object toys! Bravo! Now to only figure out how to experience these for myself!
This is genuinely THE video I've been waiting for all year on TH-cam. E/E investigating how Koeningsegg puts it's latest power down
The v8 offering has done this car justice.
The Gemera is and likely will be the ultimate ultra/hyper car that will be built in our time. Super/Hypers having always and will always be amazing, but offering a 4 seat option that I can take my wife, son, and luggage with me really takes the cake. I hope I get to see one and possibly even ride in one some day. Such an incredible feat of engineering!
It’s a 2 door. 4 seats, 2 doors.
@somenygaard the doors open to all 4 seats thou. Atleast mention its not like a normal coupe 🤣
They will make a new super mega ULTRA hyper in 5 years 😁
Edited my first response. I meant to say 4 seat instead of door.
Gemera is insane but as we are talking about Koenigsegg they might make something even crazier in the future...
The creativity at Koenigsegg is crazy. Talk about outside the box thinking.
So basically they made a supercar that can be whatever you want it to be. That’s amazing. Also the green pearl color is absolutely gorgeous.
Thank you! When there's new mind blowing tech in motorsport industry, the only thing I wait is your video explaining and making sense of it all.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke
Which part of this seems like magic to you?
I enjoy your presentations.
There may be some folks that live in the midwest that will gladly debate you on long straight roads. It's understood your intention is a closed course safe environment. Hence the salt flats. Have a great day.
Seeing how small and powerful they managed to make that dark matter motor makes me wonder what sort of wizardry they could come up with in the future.
Also I'd love to get my hands on that dark matter or quark motor just to tinker with.
Thanks for another great video! This car is really impressive from an engineering point of view.
One thing that comes to mind is that aestetically at least the rear, really looks like a porche cayman. This is basically the really hot cayman porche never built!
You know when the car is completely undriveable with the smallest engine its going to be fast
I want one. Or two. Koenigsegg has been my dream car since his first production model. Each new model in prettier than the last. They are gorgeous and as fast as they look.
Koenigsegg engineers be like : "Yo dog, I heard you like clutches....."
Koenigsegg are so hard to understand but with your videos it seems easy. Thanks :D. Great as always
You are right 84 seconds is plenty of time , but she wouldn't listen.
I love the way your brain works.
And how your able to and willing to share your knowledge.
My is that guess is that Koenigsegg are having problems with the 3-cylinder engines free valve technology (and possible vibrations) and want customers to take the V8 option instead.
I think they just want to beat Rimac at everything they did.
Absolutely geeked out video of one of the best car makers in the world loved every minute of it
I'll take the camless option with ONLY 1400 hp
Very functional editing, thank you for educating us car guys. . Very functional editing, thank you for educating us car guys. .
Now imagine a pure EV with a dark matter motor on each wheel. Over 3000hp total with all of them together weighing under 160kg (and no clutches or gearboxes needed). Naturally it would have to have an absolutely massive battery in order to produce that much power but damn.
There's a public road in southern Australia that's pretty much dead straight for I think 96km. Not going to make any claims about how safe it would be to pin the Gemera along there (road condition, room for error, etc) but ... the road is there
Does this car hold the record for most clutches in a single car? 4 in the transmission and 7 in the gearbox? 🤔
No
@@CarStreetGasGone care to expand? What car has more?
@@andyreact zL1 and the mustang
@@CarStreetGasGone they have like dual clutch😂
Love this video. I expected cluthc magic to be involved, and it's better than I thought it would be. And I wrote on a complex hybrid patent application once, 16 pages. Some German dude had already done the same prior and sat on his patent...
Koenigsegg has been vocal about designing MGUs (e motors) to a specific desired RPM, for direct drive applications such as in eVTOL, to save weight and complexity. In NOPE mode it sure helps as well. Love it. It probably doesn't help to engage all clutches, but they could. Even on a top speed run it's probably better to keep from and rear disconnected, just let the MGU keep pulling on the front while the gearbox does its shifts for the rear axle. Although...if the front axle can't handle all the torque the MGU has to offer, perhaps torque fill to the rear actually doees make sense, hmmm...The clutch would need to be less than close shut I guess to prevent catatrophic binding.
Koenigsegg took the "family" thing too serious after watching fast and furious lmao.
I saw a video in which Christian serious said that it's possible to put 3 child seats in the Gemera ... And have a rack on top of the car ... And still go 300km/h
All that talk of torque vectoring, no wonder Mr Koenigsegg is so impressed by the NEVS Emily GT.
Sounds like a great idea but alot of things that can go wrong...
if you can buy a multi million $ car chance is that you can also pay for tha maintenance and get yourself a more dependable daily driver
Looking forward to the video with you doing a test drive around a track 😉
I do you one better. Why is Gamera?
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Gemera is your mom moaning all night long 😂😂
Ask any brazilian and they'll tell you what it means 😂😂
Gamora
Nope mode would be good for driving through mud/really slippery conditions and then would need to be turned off once traction/speed is regained
I could see people buying the TFG in the case they are actually using the Gemera as intended. I think I heard it said that someone buying a Koenigsegg has one already or many other hyper/super cars. That being said they might buy a Gemera as a "family" car so the gas mileage might be a bonus. Plus saying your 3 cylinder makes 600 HP is pretty awesome!
Love the fact that you use "motor" and "engine" terminology correctly! One of the great frustrations of the world is calling an ICE a 'motor'!
Great informative video. Good job, thank-you.
Torque vectoring 2:38
Really amazing, but wouldn't it just smoke the tires all the time?
I almost ordered this car, but at the last moment changed my mind and bough kia picanto instead.
Always so excited when Jason posts a new video!
As always a fantastic breakdown of highly technical vehicle !
It's feels like Koenigsegg is the only company trying. So much cool tech.
all of this in a 4 seat hypercar... Christian is such a genius
Great Pronunciation of Jesko and Gemera . Great Job . It's like you have never watched one video from Koenigsegg or any other source that pronounce the words correctly .
We're gonna another excellent explanation video good to see you haven't seen you in a while out there
For a point of reference regarding the 84 seconds at 2300hp, Koenigsegg released a video where they take this car from 0 to 250MPH and back to 0 within 30 seconds (assuming I haven't mixed up Koenigsegg hyper cars). So, uh, yeah, like the video says, there is almost nowhere on Earth where you can actually apply that kind of horsepower for that full duration. 😅 Fantastic video! 👌😊
That's the Koenigsegg Regera, 1600hp max and it can run at full output for I believe as long as the gas tank has fuel in it
@@richardmillhousenixon no, the regera is a hybrid too. With it's 4.5 kWh battery and 520 kW of electric power, it can output full e-power for a bit over half a minute before the battery runs out the engine is the only part delivering power. However, like the Gemera, the Regera is constantly recharging its battery whenever the gas pedal isn't being fully pressed. So running out of battery is realistically not an issue.
Oh yes! ❤ Couldnt wait seeing your video to that insane engineering
This car is going to win some awards
Ahhh, good old fashioned whiteboard... Love it!
Koenigsegg - the best performance car maker in the world. No one is even close.
And it all started with a man in Sweden, and his dream. His dream of building... the best performance car in the world.
Super interesting to think about durations of max power for "normal" cars as a comparison. For example, a 300hp engine with a 16 gallon fuel tank could run for about 36 minutes at peak power. Or an economy car with 135hp and a 12 gallon fuel tank could run for just over 1 hour.
Koenigsegg is the opposite of Tesla. Tesla is engineering for reducing complexity. As Elon says, “the best part is no part.” While Koenigsegg is going for more complication. But I guess for customers who can afford millions for a vehicle paying thousands on repair for a overly complicated vehicle engine isn’t an problem.
Koenigsegg never fails to impress!
This car 🚜 is the best 😀👊
I REALLY hope they aren't trying to kill the TFG, but they might be doing it because the TFG isn't really ready yet, and they're trying to buy them selves some more time before they have to actually deliver a TFG?
Engineering Explained, you rock! Peace
You get a clutch and you, and you! Everyone's gettin a freaking clutch today!
Mad science, Christian always inspiring me
Koenigsegg is so bloody unique. If i would have this type of money for a car. I would go for it any day