I'm from Malaysia. I'm an atheist, ex-Christian. I've been watching The Atheist Experience, and it has prompted me to think critically. I have also learned many truths about Christianity, including how the Bible condones slavery. I want to thank The Atheist Experience channel for spreading the truth about Christianity.
"Why did you insult me and assume I'm a flat earther?" Moments later: brings up Noah's ark as a true story. Yeah... that's probably why. You open yourself up to magical thinking there's no limit to the BS you can potentially fall for.
@@theriffwriter2194. And... speaking of bull___, you do realize that a lot had to predate evolution before AND IF it could ever have started , right? The universe popped up, including earth ___ because evolutionistic dogma depends upon it, right? Or perhaps the universe is eternal because our so-called single -celled predecessors needed a place within which to evolve toward becoming human eventually? There is so much more. This stuff is way beyond science. However, YOU do have an incredible faith! 😊 Oh, and since you mentioned magical thinking ____ that supernatural, organismic ancestor of yours ...where did it come from? It must have been available for people like you to explain away any god or SUPERNATURALITY, huh? But the funny thing is ___ that you can't explain where it came from naturally. So you actually believe in the supernatural. Yet you try to deny the supernatural! Buddy, you might want to examine your logic... I meant illogic.
You are dead right in calling the Flood story dependent upon Flat Earth beliefs. It is wrong to blame the ignorance in Genesis by referring to the religion as Bronze Age. Even the stages of the Stone Age were of discovery.
This guy also claimed to be a repeat caller, so it's not a stretch to think they're a repeat listener. And a repeat listener ought to be familiar with how many flerf-grade callers there are. Asking "Do you subscribe to the same idea that many other callers in your position do?" is not to be unexpected.
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069 - Well Judaism and the Hebrew tribal mythology (with a bit of political propaganda thrown in) that became the Old Testament did develop in the Bronze Age so it's not u unreasonable to link them together.
@@exiled_londoner Don't insult the people who invented Bronze. Genesis is Flat Earth thinking, and that was not so much stupidity as plain ignorance. People who NOW believe Noah's Flood are very stupid. It was plausible on a Flat Earth.
"Christian" is also one of those words. "Theist" is another. And of course "Creationist". When someone labels themselves with one of these, I know that I am dealing with someone who can not distinguish fantasy from reality.
Another one is "proof" used in any other context than mathematics. He uses the word evolutionists because all of the creationists he reads use that term.
@@russelld2925 I know I slip up and use the word 'proof' incorrectly fairly often. I'm starting to catch myself more now that I've started delving into debates to sharpen up critical thinking. It can be difficult to break some habits, and our everyday language is rife with sloppy and fuzzy terms. Many apologists of the fundie or creationist variety deliberately misuse the terms though in order to misrepresent or infuriate, or sometimes just to get a 'hur hur' type laugh from their followers when it's pointed out for the millionth time that 'datas' and 'evidences' and 'evolutionist' and similar aren't real words. On the other hand, people would often ridicule me when I was younger. "Why do you talk funny?" they'd ask, referring to my habit of chosing words carefully. "Because I want to be understood" was my usual response.
"The Bible proves evolution is fake!" And the invisible unicorn in my backyard proves that the god of the bible is fake 🤷♂. How do we find out which claim is correct? Maybe both are wrong. I wonder if there is method that could help us figuring out the truth. Something scientific, a scientific method so to speak...
The book of Genesis is largely Sumerian mythology. Not only are similar stories found in cuneiform writings but the Bible says Abraham came from Ur a Sumerian city.
The bible and its 6300 year old universe. Its sad people actually believe the mythological stories and don't think or compare it to known Earth and human history
Its been decades... DECADES and theist arguments havent gotten any better. Remember, this is an old call, and i cant see the difference between the old ones and the newer ones.
Civilisation started in what is known as the fertile crescent, because humans migrated from Africa and were able to start farming in this area and we had the Agricultural Revolution which led to cities and literature etc... Basic primary school history.
As a little kid, what bothered me the most about Noah and all the animals on the ark was how the lions were kept from eating the goats... and the camels... and the sheep... So I asked my Sunday School teacher what the lions ate (cue "I wonder where the lions are...") but she was having a bad day, snapped at me and said "The lions STARVED!!". My mother comes to pick me up and is greeted by an exasperated adult and a sobbing six-yr-old screaming that the lions were so hungry they DIED!! As a lifelong lover of all things feline her careless comment broke my heart and started me on the road to atheism. Yes, in case you were wondering, somewhere in Minnesota there's a dentist who needs to watch his back. Fool shot Cecil, fool is gonna PAY!!
@@craedonbwroten6693 Ahhhh, yes. The morning load of bullshit has arrived. "Is anything too hard for me?" asks a human pretending to speak for his "superhero". And reality answers "WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?? Prove you're real and not just someone's overactive imagination!"
Evolution? There is ZERO TRANSITIONAL EVIDENCE regarding all fossils and living species, so evolution is debunked on that fact alone. NEVER has there been any new anatomy in any human, plant or animal that differs from ancestry (evolution). True nature is what can be SEEN NOW; thus, evolution is not true nature; it's a farce. Atheists finding some extinct animal and placing it in some ASSUMED pattern and calling such a fact for evolution, is not science whatsoever. SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION is all atheism really is. SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION is not SCIENCE. Evolution cannot be tested, measured or observed (scientific method). The religion of atheism is hereby debunked. Atheism = pathological stupidity/denial/delusion.
@@sineaddwanson9294Wait, that’s exactly how science works! You just type ‘irrefutable facts’ in all caps, and then everyone believes you without question. Thank you for using the scientific method instead of embarrassing yourself by shouting dumb, baseless assertions.
I imagine there are many leaders in the church who demand attendants to neither listen or call this show, because, these callers do more damage to their religion than any good. Anyone on the fence or who's honest with themselves will be pushed right over to non-belief. Keep up the good work RJ.
I remember RJ, a frequent caller who never seemed to take constructive criticism into account and stubbornly clung to their argument. It's imperative to be receptive to feedback and make necessary adjustments to have meaningful conversations. Even the most patient hosts like Seth Andrews can struggle with callers who refuse to consider alternative viewpoints. RJ's unwavering stance is indicative of someone who has lost touch with reality. It's crucial to approach discussions with an open mind and a willingness to consider other perspectives to make progress.
RJ will be continually dupped and taken advantage of throughout the rest of his life because anyone who says "Jesus" or "God" will be able to convince him of anything.
"Sit down before fact as a little child, be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abysses nature leads, or you shall learn nothing.” - Thomas Henry Huxley "I don't have a problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, intentional and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept." - anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality
This channel is like failblogs but for theistic arguments. I don't watch it expecting to hear an actual good case for God, just to be amused by the attempts.
I always remember as a small child , I was taken to the zoo, I saw the chimpanzees , I must have been about 8, i looked at its hands, nails , and I knew even at thst age we were closely related, it seemed so obvious, started me reading , about evolution , I can't fathom how people deny it.
Not just other Apes that we are related to, we also share a large chunk of DNA with other animals. Pigs for instance like humans can suffer from sunburn hence why they roll around in muck to protect their skin and their skin is used to treat severe burns in humans. Pig heart valves are used in humans to replace damaged heart valves because due to the similarities in DNA our bodies don't reject them.
I also vividly remember watching chimpanzees and apes at a zoo when I was a little kid: how they interacted with each other, how they held various items and foods, how the mothers would hold their young, seeing the very human quality in their eyes, the sibling rivalries.. all of it. It was immediately apparent to me that we were pretty closely related. This whole idea that humans are somehow separate from nature is the height of arrogance, the ultimate "look at me, I'm special"..
@@stobe187 Yeah , humans are a piss poor design for an animal compared to others, our strength, speed, stamina, vision, hearing, etc are all pretty crap , the only thing we have going for us is our brain power and ability to reason, without that we wouldn't have survived and would be extinct now.
Organizations like the Atheist Community of Austin often emerge in response to societal pressures or discrimination against atheists and non-believers. By providing a supportive community and a platform for advocacy and education, these organizations aim to address the challenges faced by atheists and promote secular values and principles. NEPy's presence in debates and discussions within the ACA context may serve as a reminder of the ongoing need for such communities and the importance of advocating for atheist rights and representation in broader society.
@@scotttchviski6706CS Lewis, who was a brilliant man no doubt, wrote that the educated were trained to be gullible. I’d say that brilliant ppl can make brilliant rationalizations
@@dwightfitch3120 In my experience brilliant people tend to be brilliant in one or two fields and can be incredibly ignorant in most other areas. Truly smart people know where there expertise ends and are happy to admit they don't know something.
Their is merit because I'm sure they are viewers who think the same way RJ does. This hopefully at least makes them think and realise how ridiculous their claims sound.
Evolution as an idea predates Christianity. The Ancient Greeks ( and probably other civilisations) speculated about it. It was only in the 19th century that Darwin and Wallace could build a cast iron case for it by describing its mechanism, Natural Selection.
Let's see, You are wrong........God "predates" the lies of Satan (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
Australian Aboriginal culture has been traced back 40,000 plus years but life has been traced back elsewhere for many more years. The difference is Australian Aboriginal people and culture are said to be the longest continuous not the oldest.
We started in Africa. Then for a hundred thousand years they were hunter gatherers who traveled to the middle east over time. Once our skills at farming and shelter building got to the point where we no longeer had to follow the food and could finally stop and live in one place. It's not that complicated.
"IGNORANCE!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist f00l that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
Squidward doesn't think it would be unfair for a God to eternally burn those who didn't worship Them for whatever reason, he just thinks it's unfair to characterize this alleged God's stance that way.
_"We had someone call in today that didn't believe DNA was real."_ Who was that?! Don't get me wrong, this RJ caller pretty silly too, but I want to hear that person justify that take! I do love the delicious irony of RJ seemingly being completely stunned by the revelation that human life began in Africa, but somehow Asia is the magically mostly heavily populated region of the world... whilst living the USA. You know the USA right? That enormous but relatively young country, the one whose population _OVERWHELMINGLY_ is made up of people whose recent ancestry was found in places outside of North America. And then he brought up the Ararat boat... Wild stuff!
Sumeria had written record of various things for which there are academics that can decipher much of it. Many civilisations have had ways to communicate but their writings have yet to be deciphered. There is quite possibly many human groupings for which we have only mostly rock art and it's not even certain they were the work of Homo Sapiens; Neanderthals or whatever. What I do know is that the murkiness is what I might expect in such a formative time in our evolution. No gods necessary!
It is utterly silly to believe in a God too stupid to have set the nature of physics and chemistry such that he'd have to do something supernatural to create living organisms. A first class worker uses his own tools.
It was when humans were able to find a sustained food source in one area and begin to farm (within the Fertile Crescent between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers) that civilization could slowly develop because humans could focus on pursuits other than mere day-to-day survival. Before that, we were hunter gatherers and yes, we migrated ALL OVER the globe. It is very threatening for some believers to accept this.
Just for good measure..the tallest brick structure on this planet is the Stiftsbasilika St. Martin in Landshut Bavaria, it's a moderate 130m - 426.5ft tall.
Evolution is an observed fact. The guy may as well say he doesn't believe in daylight. The THEORY of evolution in fact is the scientific explanation for the undeniable fact that living things evolve. You can argue with the theory if you like but that would be a near-vertical uphill struggle.
@@craedonbwroten6693 Yet you're too scared to publish your findings? And too scared to phone in to the show? And too scared to debate Quecee or Blarg...? Fail.
@@joshsheridan9511 Their strawman version of evolution is Pokey-mon based where a new anatomy would all of a sudden pop out within 180 generations, which is a blink in the evolutionary timeline. It's like saying a microwave doesn't work because it didn't boil a liter of water within one second.
@@Lazy_Sundae He's too scared to even learn about evolution. There's DETAILED mechanisms of how evolution works, but he keeps on saying there is none. He talks about some tree of life where he expects a mosquito to give birth to a whale. He thinks that evolution would cause a rock to produce a beating heart in front of his eyes. It's pretty funny that he claims that atheism isn't logical after making such an illogical assumptions about what he thinks evolution should be able to do.
@@sineaddwanson9294That’s a cool thing about Christianity being false. People get to make more than just the one decision. We make moral decisions, political decisions, health decisions - atheists have the closest thing to free will that can exist. By contrast, Christians aren’t allowed to make decisions because they have to do whatever they think their immortal, immoral, nonexistent mob boss tells them to do. It’s only when they think God doesn’t care about a decision that individuals are graciously allowed to make a choice.
Caller needs to read Jared Diamond’s _Guns, Germs, and Steel._ The rise and success of civilizations has almost nothing to do with primacy in time but with ready access to resources.
The earliest civilasations were all based in areas of the world that had flood plains at river deltas. Regular floods provided the soils on the flood plains with nutrients that led to farming. From this base civilisations could develop and grow. "Deltas were an ideal place for early agriculture to develop, typified by the early civilizations that developed on the deltas of the Nile, Indus, Yellow and Yangtze rivers."
NEPy just deleted half his posts on this video. He doesn't like being called out on his ignorance. NEPy, I know you're going to see this, so don't go off on your "IGNORANCE!" rant.
Atheism exists. There are people who do not believe in any gods. I'm one of them. Evolution has been observed taking place, and has been manipulated by humans.
Evolution? No. As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism). The problems for you are manifold. First, you don’t even know how to observe God. Do you actually think God can be placed in a test tube for your review? Do you have any idea who God truly is? Let's face the facts, shall we? You're just another lost & clueless fool that thinks humanity came from star dust or something else equally ridiculous. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him at the height of your ignorance. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief. P.S. - We already read the last page of The Book of Revelation and it says "God wins." I don't know about you, but I'm going to fight and be an overcomer of Satan, the world and with God's help, the flesh. I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line of heaven; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire! NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. STOP wallowing in your ignorance & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I’m here to help you. I will end with this truth… I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. He wants to be sought after. Why? Because he's worthy of our pursuit for what he’s done for us thus far. His awesome greatness is beyond your’s and my comprehension. What he’s done for you is UNIMAGINABLE! GREAT! AWESOME! Honor him.
I wonder if RJ knows that his Noah story actually came from ancient Babylonian and Akkadian flood myths written around 1500 years before Genesis, he could look up Utnapishtim and Atra-Hasis if he wants to read the original stories.
NEPPY surely understands that "Did you see it with your own eyes?" would, if taken seriously, not only take out a lot of science but also take out pretty much all religious beliefs! After all, who here has seen God existing, let alone creating everything? So I can only think he is saying things he knows to be stupid.
He does a special pleading. He says that only "nature" requires that type of validation. Anything HE believes are simply true, whether we can observe it or not.😂
Well no, that’s not really accurate lol, there’s other reasons why it’s not computer code and look: print(“hello world”) is that not computer code? It has no loops or sequences 😅
I agree with you that DNA isn't code. But the cell DOES have sequencing and loops. This would be based on inter-cellular and intra-cellular signalling and feedback based gene regulation. That's how it's possible for a zygote to multiply and develop into an embryo. But yes, it does take more than just the DNA.
@@sineaddwanson9294 👈🤣still so stupid and wrong, Jr! WE assigned those values! WE assign ALL values, clueless doorstop! There's nothing else to assign anything except humans! DAMN you're dumb! 😂
Never Ending Prison Sentence boasts about annihilating atheism 50 years ago (when he was 12?), and yet here he is, still yelling at atheists like an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
@@queuecee As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism). Creation and it's "design" by God is a scientific fact. You already know what a "design" is, but you want to act like it's a mystery. We know something is designed, due to it’s intelligent order, repetition, complexity, purpose AND the obvious fact that it didn’t arrive by chance, like a wind pattern in the sand or water waves on the beach. Only intelligence produces designed information, such as the high-complexity/high function DNA blueprint design of 9 million DIFFERENT animals, 300,000 DIFFERENT plants and the human being. I will also add that no design or creation is POSSIBLE via primitive nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Atheism debunked. If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer. God said the same thing in his Word (Romans 1:20). Low-complexity formations, such as crystals, snowflakes and wind patterns in the sand, cannot be grouped with high-complexity designed creations, such as the human being that has ALL the co-existent designed bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order not only in the human body, but in millions of different species on the earth. The reproducing human being is a trillion times more complex than a watch found on the beach. The digestive system is a CLEAR DESIGN that's seen in humans and in Millions of animals & sorry pal, but the digestive system didn't come from a moist rock or mud puddle or any other asinine atheist cause/nature/source you want to use. Your atheism and hope of a Godless reality is hereby totally debunked & it was just this easy.
Seeing a bunch of people talking about someone called NEPy or something, Yours is the comment I decided to respond to. With this: ... Who? Methinks there's been a ton of deleting going on. Again.
@tehspamgozehere He's the guy who's been "destroying" atheists for FIFTY years. And he also "debunked" evolution FIFTY years ago. I'm surprised you never heard of him... unless the guy has just been deluded or lying all this time.🤔
@@sineaddwanson9294 “You have a lot to learn” says the person who doesn’t understand how evolution is measurable, testable, and observable. (Hint: “observable” doesn’t mean that you can watch it in progress over only one human lifetime with your eyes.)
@@diogeneslamp8004 Wrong again, kid. TRUE NATURE IS SEEN IN EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). While NOTHING of the atheist cult IS NEVER SEEN (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy). THAT is the litmus test on what's TRUE NATURE. Don't make me set you straight again.
Sumeria is recognised as the oldest civilisation and dates back to 5500BCE, though the area of the city of Damascus in Syria has been inhabited continuously since about 3000BCE to this day.
God also proves to be the creator of good and evil and that our final destination is predetermined by God. Which makes sense when you are the only one present and n full control during creation. Like a programmer creating all the parameters and functions for his software, and that software doing exactly as he programmed. Though we humans create bugs and error in code, so it needs to be tested and debugged. God never needed to test or debug, obviously. God bless Atheism 🙏 And a fantastic Sunday Morning 🌞 AXP, Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love and empathy from Australia 😎
A god wouldn't necessarily disprove evolution any more than evolution necessarily disproves a god. It causes issues for some creationist myths, but beyond that, it's irrelevant. I'm not an atheist because Evolution. Though, it is easy to get sucked into these debates, because the mangling of the theory by apologists is annoying. Some of those apologists know it too. That's why they press it. If they can get you on the defense of Evolution then they don't have to provide an argument for a god.
ABSOLUTELY! Everybody can clearly see that a MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce; NOT TO MENTION that first cell contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants! THAT is the bald face stupidity (atheism) UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. Can a MINDLESS ROCK create/design/produce the DIFFERENTLY TIMED HEART BEAT for the human being and each DIFFERENT ANIMAL? LOL! Atheism = pathological stupidity/denial/delusion. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
The personal incredulity arguments of evolution come from young earth creationists. There are MANY Christians who accept evolution, as well as science in general. The Young Earth Creationists have to dispute almost all of science, including evolution, abiogenesis, and the Big Bang. But they have to dispute a lot of other established sciences such as nuclear sciences for radiometric dating. Or archeology that show civilizations older than 6,000 years. And sometimes even refute gravity if they are also flat earthers.
@@queuecee Evolution? No. What YOU HAVE NOT SEEN is the big bang. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN abiogenesis. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN NEW ANATOMY DIFFERING FROM ANCESTRY (evolution). You have to BELIEVE that atheist GARBAGE because NONE OF IT is testable, measurable or observable (scientific method) because it's not "SCIENCE" and NONE OF IT EXISTS. Case closed.
Archaic homo sapiens first harvested and then cultivated wild grains found in the Lavant and Fertile Crescent region. Our ancestors had to migrate FROM Africa to this area before sedentary cultivation developed.
If it wasn't a code, all life would be the same thing, if that. INSTEAD, it's the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. You're debunked and your stupidity annoys me.
Unfortunately people who are Certain(tm) view anything less than Certainty as an admission of doubt, which they in turn interpret as trying to hide from the truth. Being absolutely certain about anything is dishonest at best. People who claim to be certain about something for a living? Yeah, avoid.
I spent a pleasant 14 years in County Down, next to the "Mountains of Mourne", and could climb from the beach of Dundrum Bay to the summit of Slieve Donard, about 1500 feet. That is high enough for a high school student of geometry to know that by seeing the horizon reveal sea that is farther away than what one sees from the beach, or even halfway up, is explicable only if the sea isn't flat, but curved downwards. I dare say that in most of Babylon one has no such advantage
Correcting Seth, but Ken Miller isn't an "intelligent design guy." He actually was a witness for the defendant in the Dover v. Kitzmiller trial, and he debunked intelligent design's philosophy of irreducible complexity at the trial. Miller is a biologist, a Catholic, and accepts the modern evolutionary synthesis.
He says "oldest written language" but symbols with meaning used possibly to mark property are found prior to that in other places, like Jiahu china. They aren't writing systems like Sumerian Cuneiform but they show signs of I guess protocivilisations were showing up as early as the 7th millennium in other places.
As soon as RJ said "Life began in the Middle East" followed by "when Noah landed on Mount Ararat" he completely lost the plot. I can understand how religion warps, twists and bends the mind because propaganda, indoctrination and ideological persuasion are very real, but this guy's ignorance - in this very day and age - is beyond comprehension. It takes a religion to do this to a mind.
As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
@@MrMattSax that's only a point of view. All we have access to is awareness. In reality everything is here and now. Space and time are products our self fragmented awareness.
@dorsdonstowe9403 that's a lot of big talk from a proven lying hypocritical coward. Are you ever going to stop running from everyone's debate challenge, or are you going to stay a spineless prisoner to the voices in your head?
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Why do you keep milking that "prove that god doesn't exist" thing? You don't need to prove a negative, that's not what the burden of proof is.
"Judaeo Christian?" Those are two completely different religions. Of course, the gods were often worried (in the Bible) that humans would become like them: this is why the Tower of Babble myth exists.
Sir William Thomson, who became the first Lord Kelvin, had a pretty good idea that 100 million years was not long enough for Evolution by Natural Selection. He got that right, He also proved, by thermodynamics and all available data, that this planet is at least 20 million years old, but he could think of no source of energy that'd give it more than 100 million. He was blamelessly ignorant of radioactivity, which is how we know his estimate, a huge improvement upon Ussher's Biblical one, was 100 times to low.
Another example of my personal pet theory about many fundies who don't believe evolution is a thing. A failure of imagination. Specifically where scale or scope is concerned.
Evolution? No. There’s ZERO EVIDENCE for evolution. WE CLEARLY OBSERVE that all life is DYING/LOSING INFORMATION - NOT EVOLVING/GAINING INFORMATION. And there is no MIND in the model of evolution; thus, there is no purposeful order or design possible - even though you are desperate to believe it happened some way some how Longggg agoooo & farrrr awayyyy. If evolution were true, all life would CLEARLY be in OBVIOUS TRANSITION w/ new anatomy that would emulate & thus prove “The Tree of Life” diagram where a whale, mosquito & pine tree transitioned from a one-celled microbe. It’s all NONSENSE that doesn’t happen/can’t happen/will never happen. We know GENESIS is the truth, because all life had to have all bodily systems created SUDDENLY & TOGETHER so that life could survive & thrive. GOD DID IT/ GOO DIDN’T. You can't present the mechanism of evolution, nor have you dug up any "common ancestor," because LUCA doesn't exist and is impossible to exist. No atheist has any answers to anything of reality; thus, atheism is the very definition of being lost/clueless. We have the most advanced machine in the universe (the human being) and you think it came from a finite MINDLESS/PURPOSELESS mud puddle of goo? CLEARLY a person of intelligence, resources and power FAR BEYOND mankind, produced the high-complexity/high function found in the human being. There is no other sane or rational option. Engaging is desperate fantasy does not help you. You need start your thinking in focusing on what is possible vs what is impossible. In my 50 yrs experience, the atheist doesn’t know the difference. Bottom up production from nothing/simple to the complex (big bang) isn’t possible. EVERYTHING can only come from a source of EVERYTHING; there is no magic such as “it spontaneously emerged!” or “It evolved!” WE OBSERVE TODAY that no warm pond or ocean pocket can PRODUCE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. So don’t fall for the lie of a Godless world. We know that there’s no such thing as “natural causes” or “natural processes.” Can a rock produce a heart beat? NO. And THAT is the actual depth of the stupidity regarding the asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism. NO PART OF NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). So don’t fall for the lie of a Godless world. Atheism isn’t logical. Atheism is nilism (life is meaningless) and yet we claim many things in the world have “meaning” - including ourselves. Atheism = desperate stupidity/pathological denial/delusion. PLEASE let me help you dump the asinine cult of atheism today. YOU ARE SPECIAL because God PURPOSELY created you in his image, because he wants a RELATIONSHIP with you! But he also gave you FREE WILL to choose. You have +/- 70 yrs on this earth FOR ONE PURPOSE: To accept or reject Jesus as your savior. Because you were born into sin and you have sinned and we all need a savior. HEAVEN is waiting on you! Let me help you get there.
@@an.d.m.a Like it matters what part of nature you claim to be a "natural cause?" NOTHING OF NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Oh btw, as soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
I'm from Malaysia. I'm an atheist, ex-Christian. I've been watching The Atheist Experience, and it has prompted me to think critically. I have also learned many truths about Christianity, including how the Bible condones slavery. I want to thank The Atheist Experience channel for spreading the truth about Christianity.
Why are you an atheist? What evidence and critical thinking justifies the atheist conclusion that no God exists?
How has AXP lies helped you think critically? What specific doctrines of 'critical thinking' has AXP liars taught you?
Ignore the toxic troll.
@@69eddieD You mad? Accountability is a bitc#, huh?
@@EdithBromfeld We know who you are liar for jesus.
"Why did you insult me and assume I'm a flat earther?"
Moments later: brings up Noah's ark as a true story.
Yeah... that's probably why. You open yourself up to magical thinking there's no limit to the BS you can potentially fall for.
@@theriffwriter2194. And... speaking of bull___, you do realize that a lot had to predate evolution before AND IF it could ever have started , right? The universe popped up, including earth ___ because evolutionistic dogma depends upon it, right? Or perhaps the universe is eternal because our so-called single -celled predecessors needed a place within which to evolve toward becoming human eventually? There is so much more. This stuff is way beyond science. However, YOU do have an incredible faith! 😊 Oh, and since you mentioned magical thinking ____ that supernatural, organismic ancestor of yours ...where did it come from? It must have been available for people like you to explain away any god or SUPERNATURALITY, huh? But the funny thing is ___ that you can't explain where it came from naturally. So you actually believe in the supernatural. Yet you try to deny the supernatural! Buddy, you might want to examine your logic... I meant illogic.
You are dead right in calling the Flood story dependent upon Flat Earth beliefs. It is wrong to blame the ignorance in Genesis by referring to the religion as Bronze Age. Even the stages of the Stone Age were of discovery.
This guy also claimed to be a repeat caller, so it's not a stretch to think they're a repeat listener. And a repeat listener ought to be familiar with how many flerf-grade callers there are. Asking "Do you subscribe to the same idea that many other callers in your position do?" is not to be unexpected.
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069 -
Well Judaism and the Hebrew tribal mythology (with a bit of political propaganda thrown in) that became the Old Testament did develop in the Bronze Age so it's not u unreasonable to link them together.
@@exiled_londoner Don't insult the people who invented Bronze. Genesis is Flat Earth thinking, and that was not so much stupidity as plain ignorance. People who NOW believe Noah's Flood are very stupid. It was plausible on a Flat Earth.
Spoiler Alert: The caller did not disprove Evolution and prove his Christian god. Anyone surprised?
Every time I watch one of these, I always have the hope that they’re going to be able to prove god…JUST KIDDING!
Hey, screw you, OP. I didn’t even get to watch it yet!
What I'm surprised by is that all these people call in and accomplish the opposite of what they're trying to do.
Damn! I was going to watch this.
This is my shocked face 😐
There are certain words that clue me in that I’m probably dealing with someone who’s a bit irrational. ‘Evolutionist’ is one of those words.
"Christian" is also one of those words. "Theist" is another. And of course "Creationist". When someone labels themselves with one of these, I know that I am dealing with someone who can not distinguish fantasy from reality.
"Evidences!"
That word is an attempt at poisoning the well; like “Darwinist”.
Another one is "proof" used in any other context than mathematics. He uses the word evolutionists because all of the creationists he reads use that term.
@@russelld2925 I know I slip up and use the word 'proof' incorrectly fairly often. I'm starting to catch myself more now that I've started delving into debates to sharpen up critical thinking. It can be difficult to break some habits, and our everyday language is rife with sloppy and fuzzy terms. Many apologists of the fundie or creationist variety deliberately misuse the terms though in order to misrepresent or infuriate, or sometimes just to get a 'hur hur' type laugh from their followers when it's pointed out for the millionth time that 'datas' and 'evidences' and 'evolutionist' and similar aren't real words. On the other hand, people would often ridicule me when I was younger. "Why do you talk funny?" they'd ask, referring to my habit of chosing words carefully. "Because I want to be understood" was my usual response.
Shout out to these callers who get to relive their buffoonery in these throwbacks.
Preserved for eternity for all to mock.
Thank you callers.
"The Bible proves evolution is fake!"
And the invisible unicorn in my backyard proves that the god of the bible is fake 🤷♂. How do we find out which claim is correct? Maybe both are wrong. I wonder if there is method that could help us figuring out the truth. Something scientific, a scientific method so to speak...
Ahh my invisible goblin unicorn trader, thinks he may know, but you need to give him its invisible number written on the side of the horn
Whoe, you got a Unicorn too?
I have a Pink Unicorn in my crawlspace.
@@SurgiusMaximus Aw jeeze, is it stuck? Poor little thing, does it have water and a nice bowl of unicorn chow?
@@rodshop5897 LOL nah, he loves it there. That's where his magic uniportal is.
@@SurgiusMaximus Oh, I'm glad he's OK. Thanks for the update! Give him a uni-snack for me!
Man not believing in evolution while believing in a literal noah story is wild
Even as a 1st grade student in Catholic school, I thought the Noah's Ark story was bogus.
One teeny problem with mentioning the Sumerian civilization is that it was already pretty old before god made the universe.
People in China has been been farming for thousands of years by the time God created the universe, and they completely missed it too.
The book of Genesis is largely Sumerian mythology. Not only are similar stories found in cuneiform writings but the Bible says Abraham came from Ur a Sumerian city.
The bible and its 6300 year old universe.
Its sad people actually believe the mythological stories and don't think or compare it to known Earth and human history
But, but, mah GAWD!!!!!!
The Australian aboriginal people had been around for about 50,000 years before God got around to creating the world.
I’m just here for Seth’s facial expressions and I was not disappointed. 😁
Its been decades... DECADES and theist arguments havent gotten any better. Remember, this is an old call, and i cant see the difference between the old ones and the newer ones.
They have had 2000 yrs to refine their doctrine.
And it is still painfully stupid.
They didn’t make good use of those 2000 years because for most of that time they could just force people to agree with them.
It's interesting to me that Theists believe things on insufficient evidence, yet deny things that are supported by volumes of evidence.
Australia has the oldest continuous culture, dating back 60,000 years. He’s getting this confused with civilisation.
Stay in school folks. Otherwise you turn out like this 💀
Don't go full RJ - CO, kids.
Civilisation started in what is known as the fertile crescent, because humans migrated from Africa and were able to start farming in this area and we had the Agricultural Revolution which led to cities and literature etc... Basic primary school history.
As a little kid, what bothered me the most about Noah and all the animals on the ark was how the lions were kept from eating the goats... and the camels... and the sheep...
So I asked my Sunday School teacher what the lions ate (cue "I wonder where the lions are...") but she was having a bad day, snapped at me and said "The lions STARVED!!".
My mother comes to pick me up and is greeted by an exasperated adult and a sobbing six-yr-old screaming that the lions were so hungry they DIED!!
As a lifelong lover of all things feline her careless comment broke my heart and started me on the road to atheism.
Yes, in case you were wondering, somewhere in Minnesota there's a dentist who needs to watch his back.
Fool shot Cecil, fool is gonna PAY!!
I think that the dentist did pay. The fact that everytime I think about my dentists appointments I think of that as*hole. I'm from Minnesota too.
And that explains why there are no lions now...
...wait. 🤔
@@craedonbwroten6693 Ahhhh, yes. The morning load of bullshit has arrived.
"Is anything too hard for me?" asks a human pretending to speak for his "superhero".
And reality answers "WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?? Prove you're real and not just someone's overactive imagination!"
They closed the practice. Walter Palmer is hated internationally. Im from Minnesota and we still remember. He will always be known as a as*shole
@@krisaaron5771animal lovers dont eat animals...✌️
Uncurious George states: "I've never seem monkeys turn into humans before my very eyes, therefore there is no such thing as evolution" LOL😅
Evolution? There is ZERO TRANSITIONAL EVIDENCE regarding all fossils and living species, so evolution is debunked on that fact alone. NEVER has there been any new anatomy in any human, plant or animal that differs from ancestry (evolution). True nature is what can be SEEN NOW; thus, evolution is not true nature; it's a farce.
Atheists finding some extinct animal and placing it in some ASSUMED pattern and calling such a fact for evolution, is not science whatsoever. SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION is all atheism really is. SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION is not SCIENCE. Evolution cannot be tested, measured or observed (scientific method). The religion of atheism is hereby debunked. Atheism = pathological stupidity/denial/delusion.
You saying it doesn't make it so, troll
@@amtlpaul IRREFUTABLE FACTS make it so.
@@sineaddwanson9294Wait, that’s exactly how science works! You just type ‘irrefutable facts’ in all caps, and then everyone believes you without question. Thank you for using the scientific method instead of embarrassing yourself by shouting dumb, baseless assertions.
@@sineaddwanson9294 Wrong again. Bring evidence or get lost.
NEPy: *Insults us*
Me: Why are you insulting us?
NEPy: Because I have no reason to be polite
Me: But you started this.
Neppy is responding the way he learnt in prison
Don't take it personally. He just can't stop himself
Hi guys! My favourite duo together with the crew. Hey crew!
I imagine there are many leaders in the church who demand attendants to neither listen or call this show, because, these callers do more damage to their religion than any good. Anyone on the fence or who's honest with themselves will be pushed right over to non-belief. Keep up the good work RJ.
I love the sharpness of Seth. Always on point
I'd like to say that we here in Colorado don't claim him, but i'm sure there would be a lot of colorado who would
The tower of babble story is the best refutation of the claim that god is loving and wants peace among all people.
I remember RJ, a frequent caller who never seemed to take constructive criticism into account and stubbornly clung to their argument. It's imperative to be receptive to feedback and make necessary adjustments to have meaningful conversations. Even the most patient hosts like Seth Andrews can struggle with callers who refuse to consider alternative viewpoints. RJ's unwavering stance is indicative of someone who has lost touch with reality. It's crucial to approach discussions with an open mind and a willingness to consider other perspectives to make progress.
I remember RJ because he's one of the few callers that made Seth just give up.
This sounds like you used AI lol
RJ will be continually dupped and taken advantage of throughout the rest of his life because anyone who says "Jesus" or "God" will be able to convince him of anything.
"Sit down before fact as a little child, be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abysses nature leads, or you shall learn nothing.”
- Thomas Henry Huxley
"I don't have a problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, intentional and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept."
- anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality
This channel is like failblogs but for theistic arguments. I don't watch it expecting to hear an actual good case for God, just to be amused by the attempts.
I always remember as a small child , I was taken to the zoo, I saw the chimpanzees , I must have been about 8, i looked at its hands, nails , and I knew even at thst age we were closely related, it seemed so obvious, started me reading , about evolution , I can't fathom how people deny it.
Not just other Apes that we are related to, we also share a large chunk of DNA with other animals. Pigs for instance like humans can suffer from sunburn hence why they roll around in muck to protect their skin and their skin is used to treat severe burns in humans. Pig heart valves are used in humans to replace damaged heart valves because due to the similarities in DNA our bodies don't reject them.
Well, 'cause GAWD!!!!
I also vividly remember watching chimpanzees and apes at a zoo when I was a little kid: how they interacted with each other, how they held various items and foods, how the mothers would hold their young, seeing the very human quality in their eyes, the sibling rivalries.. all of it. It was immediately apparent to me that we were pretty closely related.
This whole idea that humans are somehow separate from nature is the height of arrogance, the ultimate "look at me, I'm special"..
@@stobe187 Yeah , humans are a piss poor design for an animal compared to others, our strength, speed, stamina, vision, hearing, etc are all pretty crap , the only thing we have going for us is our brain power and ability to reason, without that we wouldn't have survived and would be extinct now.
@@stephenbyrne914 I think I read that we even share about half the DNA coding of yeast, the sugar fungus.
Organizations like the Atheist Community of Austin often emerge in response to societal pressures or discrimination against atheists and non-believers. By providing a supportive community and a platform for advocacy and education, these organizations aim to address the challenges faced by atheists and promote secular values and principles. NEPy's presence in debates and discussions within the ACA context may serve as a reminder of the ongoing need for such communities and the importance of advocating for atheist rights and representation in broader society.
Like homophobes are the reason for Pride.
I sincerely hope RJ doesn't vote in November. Oh how the education system is failing these people in the USA! 🤦
Oh, he'll vote and I can pretty much guarantee who he'll vote for.
@@scotttchviski6706CS Lewis, who was a brilliant man no doubt, wrote that the educated were trained to be gullible. I’d say that brilliant ppl can make brilliant rationalizations
@@dwightfitch3120 In my experience brilliant people tend to be brilliant in one or two fields and can be incredibly ignorant in most other areas.
Truly smart people know where there expertise ends and are happy to admit they don't know something.
"I knew you were going to bring that up" I doubt you know water is wet.
This dude sounds like my "friend" I just unfriended recently. There's just nothing going on upstairs... I can't be around people like that.
"When Noah landed in Mount Ararat, which is in northern Syria..." 🤦♂👨✈✈
Well, to be perfectly honest, he did say it was "further North."
It was the mountains of Ararat. There's a lot of them. This god seems long on fantasy, sadly short on necessary detail.
There is no merit in besting a fool who is intent on remaining a fool. What a sad conversation.
Their is merit because I'm sure they are viewers who think the same way RJ does. This hopefully at least makes them think and realise how ridiculous their claims sound.
Evolution as an idea predates Christianity. The Ancient Greeks ( and probably other civilisations) speculated about it. It was only in the 19th century that Darwin and Wallace could build a cast iron case for it by describing its mechanism, Natural Selection.
Also Darwin wasn't the first to "prove it" he just had the best evidence at the time.
Let's see, You are wrong........God "predates" the lies of Satan (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@@sineaddwanson9294
I was there. God doesn't exist.
@@Diviance I was there too and distinctly recall seeing you being there.
This is about as convincing as the seven day cycle guy
I wonder if NEPy keeps saying "Prove god doesn't exist" because that was used against him in court.
"God proves evolution is fake." Why did I even click on this? Thank you guys for addressing stupidity with such patience.
Patience?
@@panaroid9636 more than I have.
@@scottwheeler2679 Fair enough
Australian Aboriginal culture has been traced back 40,000 plus years but life has been traced back elsewhere for many more years. The difference is Australian Aboriginal people and culture are said to be the longest continuous not the oldest.
We started in Africa. Then for a hundred thousand years they were hunter gatherers who traveled to the middle east over time. Once our skills at farming and shelter building got to the point where we no longeer had to follow the food and could finally stop and live in one place. It's not that complicated.
It’s extremely not complicated.
Humans started almost certainly in Africa. Life started as single cells, or maybe less than cells.
From what I last heard...we gave Neanderthal 100k year headstart into Europe.
Then we followed and ate their lunch.
RJ: “I heard a beeping noise”
Jesus: “It’s me, dude. Eject! Eject!!”
There is no ignorance like Christian knowledge.
There is no falacy like Christian logic.
"IGNORANCE!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist f00l that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body.
Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
Darwin was the most stupidest person .
@@user-ki1un4jg2dno that would be you.
Never Ending Prison Sentence, alias Wrenceson, lunges at strawmen because he is powerless against real-life atheists!
@@user-ki1un4jg2d
Wow, weak trolling. Try again.
Squidward doesn't think it would be unfair for a God to eternally burn those who didn't worship Them for whatever reason, he just thinks it's unfair to characterize this alleged God's stance that way.
How cute, Never Ending Prison Sentence is trying to make me feel insulted!
He referenced Egypt as one of the earliest civilizations . Someone should have asked him what continent Egypt is in...
"I think I'm getting off track here"
Buddy, you were never on track to begin with.
More monotreme than monorail.
_"We had someone call in today that didn't believe DNA was real."_
Who was that?! Don't get me wrong, this RJ caller pretty silly too, but I want to hear that person justify that take!
I do love the delicious irony of RJ seemingly being completely stunned by the revelation that human life began in Africa, but somehow Asia is the magically mostly heavily populated region of the world... whilst living the USA. You know the USA right? That enormous but relatively young country, the one whose population _OVERWHELMINGLY_ is made up of people whose recent ancestry was found in places outside of North America. And then he brought up the Ararat boat...
Wild stuff!
Sumeria had written record of various things for which there are academics that can decipher much of it. Many civilisations have had ways to communicate but their writings have yet to be deciphered. There is quite possibly many human groupings for which we have only mostly rock art and it's not even certain they were the work of Homo Sapiens; Neanderthals or whatever. What I do know is that the murkiness is what I might expect in such a formative time in our evolution. No gods necessary!
It’s silly to ask for evidence of evolution while swallowing a whole book of childish fairy tales with no evidence.
...logic lost on Christians.
It is utterly silly to believe in a God too stupid to have set the nature of physics and chemistry such that he'd have to do something supernatural to create living organisms. A first class worker uses his own tools.
It was when humans were able to find a sustained food source in one area and begin to farm (within the Fertile Crescent between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers) that civilization could slowly develop because humans could focus on pursuits other than mere day-to-day survival. Before that, we were hunter gatherers and yes, we migrated ALL OVER the globe. It is very threatening for some believers to accept this.
Just for good measure..the tallest brick structure on this planet is the Stiftsbasilika St. Martin in Landshut Bavaria, it's a moderate 130m - 426.5ft tall.
Evolution is an observed fact. The guy may as well say he doesn't believe in daylight. The THEORY of evolution in fact is the scientific explanation for the undeniable fact that living things evolve. You can argue with the theory if you like but that would be a near-vertical uphill struggle.
Creationists prefer to argue against their strawman versions of evolution
@@craedonbwroten6693 Yet you're too scared to publish your findings? And too scared to phone in to the show? And too scared to debate Quecee or Blarg...? Fail.
@@joshsheridan9511 Their strawman version of evolution is Pokey-mon based where a new anatomy would all of a sudden pop out within 180 generations, which is a blink in the evolutionary timeline. It's like saying a microwave doesn't work because it didn't boil a liter of water within one second.
@@Lazy_Sundae He's too scared to even learn about evolution. There's DETAILED mechanisms of how evolution works, but he keeps on saying there is none. He talks about some tree of life where he expects a mosquito to give birth to a whale. He thinks that evolution would cause a rock to produce a beating heart in front of his eyes.
It's pretty funny that he claims that atheism isn't logical after making such an illogical assumptions about what he thinks evolution should be able to do.
@@queuecee TRANSITION IS IMPOSSIBLE AND NEVER HAS BEEN OBSERVED AT ALL, whether "suddenly" or not. FULL STOP.
I'm embarrassed for this caller. I sincerely hope he doesn't have to make important decisions in his personal or professional life 🤞
Christians never have to make decisions. They just have to “let go and let God.”
People like RJ will let others make those decisions and be stuck with the consequences - usually detremental to himself.
@leithcrowther6086 exactly. Whatever the situation, they just say, "god told me" or "god has forgiven me". How very convenient!
@@Leith_Crowther NO, not even a little bit. We have +/- 70 yrs to make the right decision. So far, you've decided poorly.
@@sineaddwanson9294That’s a cool thing about Christianity being false. People get to make more than just the one decision. We make moral decisions, political decisions, health decisions - atheists have the closest thing to free will that can exist. By contrast, Christians aren’t allowed to make decisions because they have to do whatever they think their immortal, immoral, nonexistent mob boss tells them to do. It’s only when they think God doesn’t care about a decision that individuals are graciously allowed to make a choice.
As soon as I heard him say Babylon, I started cracking up 😂
i am quitting my profession today, he just proved my whole profession is false. In his whole diatribe was completely vapid.
RJ suffers from the ancient alien show
Caller needs to read Jared Diamond’s _Guns, Germs, and Steel._ The rise and success of civilizations has almost nothing to do with primacy in time but with ready access to resources.
Yes, he should. Great book.
@@MrCanis4 👍
The earliest civilasations were all based in areas of the world that had flood plains at river deltas. Regular floods provided the soils on the flood plains with nutrients that led to farming. From this base civilisations could develop and grow.
"Deltas were an ideal place for early agriculture to develop, typified by the early civilizations that developed on the deltas of the Nile, Indus, Yellow and Yangtze rivers."
Scientific curiosity is not as common as it should be at this point in human history.
NEPy just deleted half his posts on this video. He doesn't like being called out on his ignorance. NEPy, I know you're going to see this, so don't go off on your "IGNORANCE!" rant.
Atheism exists. There are people who do not believe in any gods. I'm one of them.
Evolution has been observed taking place, and has been manipulated by humans.
Evolution? No. As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
The problems for you are manifold. First, you don’t even know how to observe God. Do you actually think God can be placed in a test tube for your review? Do you have any idea who God truly is? Let's face the facts, shall we? You're just another lost & clueless fool that thinks humanity came from star dust or something else equally ridiculous. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him at the height of your ignorance. THAT is what you are; never mind him.
That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
P.S. - We already read the last page of The Book of Revelation and it says "God wins." I don't know about you, but I'm going to fight and be an overcomer of Satan, the world and with God's help, the flesh. I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line of heaven; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire! NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. STOP wallowing in your ignorance & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I’m here to help you.
I will end with this truth… I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. He wants to be sought after. Why? Because he's worthy of our pursuit for what he’s done for us thus far. His awesome greatness is beyond your’s and my comprehension. What he’s done for you is UNIMAGINABLE! GREAT! AWESOME! Honor him.
The ignorance of this caller is staggering, but his confidence in his arguments is not surprising.
I wonder if RJ knows that his Noah story actually came from ancient Babylonian and Akkadian flood myths written around 1500 years before Genesis, he could look up Utnapishtim and Atra-Hasis if he wants to read the original stories.
I'd just like to thank my parents for raising me to be not as f'n ignorant as RJ.
NEPPY surely understands that "Did you see it with your own eyes?" would, if taken seriously, not only take out a lot of science but also take out pretty much all religious beliefs! After all, who here has seen God existing, let alone creating everything? So I can only think he is saying things he knows to be stupid.
He does a special pleading. He says that only "nature" requires that type of validation.
Anything HE believes are simply true, whether we can observe it or not.😂
I suspect that, ironically, RJ will feature in future Darwin Awards.
That's cruel!
"Some of them say Australia"
Who says that? Citation very much needed.
For DNA to be a computer code it needs to have sequences, loops and branches. DNA doesn't have the loops and branches. It's not a code
Well no, that’s not really accurate lol, there’s other reasons why it’s not computer code and look:
print(“hello world”)
is that not computer code? It has no loops or sequences 😅
I agree with you that DNA isn't code. But the cell DOES have sequencing and loops. This would be based on inter-cellular and intra-cellular signalling and feedback based gene regulation. That's how it's possible for a zygote to multiply and develop into an embryo.
But yes, it does take more than just the DNA.
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It is not a code.
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It is only "information" for some definitions of information.
@@sineaddwanson9294 👈🤣still so stupid and wrong, Jr! WE assigned those values! WE assign ALL values, clueless doorstop! There's nothing else to assign anything except humans! DAMN you're dumb! 😂
Never Ending Prison Sentence boasts about annihilating atheism 50 years ago (when he was 12?), and yet here he is, still yelling at atheists like an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
I checked. There have been a steady stream of research on evolution even back 50 years.
@@queuecee As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
Creation and it's "design" by God is a scientific fact. You already know what a "design" is, but you want to act like it's a mystery. We know something is designed, due to it’s intelligent order, repetition, complexity, purpose AND the obvious fact that it didn’t arrive by chance, like a wind pattern in the sand or water waves on the beach. Only intelligence produces designed information, such as the high-complexity/high function DNA blueprint design of 9 million DIFFERENT animals, 300,000 DIFFERENT plants and the human being. I will also add that no design or creation is POSSIBLE via primitive nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Atheism debunked.
If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer. God said the same thing in his Word (Romans 1:20).
Low-complexity formations, such as crystals, snowflakes and wind patterns in the sand, cannot be grouped with high-complexity designed creations, such as the human being that has ALL the co-existent designed bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order not only in the human body, but in millions of different species on the earth. The reproducing human being is a trillion times more complex than a watch found on the beach.
The digestive system is a CLEAR DESIGN that's seen in humans and in Millions of animals & sorry pal, but the digestive system didn't come from a moist rock or mud puddle or any other asinine atheist cause/nature/source you want to use. Your atheism and hope of a Godless reality is hereby totally debunked & it was just this easy.
Seeing a bunch of people talking about someone called NEPy or something, Yours is the comment I decided to respond to. With this: ... Who?
Methinks there's been a ton of deleting going on. Again.
@tehspamgozehere He's the guy who's been "destroying" atheists for FIFTY years. And he also "debunked" evolution FIFTY years ago.
I'm surprised you never heard of him... unless the guy has just been deluded or lying all this time.🤔
Is there any video taken of this god character picking up its nobel peace prize for proving evolution to be wrong?
Magic'd is the perfect word to describe the stories of theism. Well done. You have just coined a new word. love it.
'Magicked' isn't a new word but yes, it's very apt in this instance :)
@@Lazy_Sundae Just say no to self proclaimed spelling cops.
@@davidbelway6076 Eh? I wasn't correcting your spelling, I was merely pointing out that it's not a new word. I'm also on your side 🤗
Caller: "If you want to call them ["evolutionists] that [scientists]..."
That's what they are. SCIENTISTS! WTF!
Well, no, I’m an evolutionist but not a scientist. But they should have been talking about scientists and not all evolutionists.
No, "SCIENCE" is what's TESTABLE, MEASURABLE & OBSERVABLE (scientific method). Evolution is NONE OF THOSE. You have a lot to learn.
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“You have a lot to learn” says the person who doesn’t understand how evolution is measurable, testable, and observable. (Hint: “observable” doesn’t mean that you can watch it in progress over only one human lifetime with your eyes.)
@@diogeneslamp8004 Wrong again, kid. TRUE NATURE IS SEEN IN EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine).
While NOTHING of the atheist cult IS NEVER SEEN (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
THAT is the litmus test on what's TRUE NATURE. Don't make me set you straight again.
Here in Northern Europe we don't even know the word "Evolutionist".
did he say Greece was in the middle east ? that american education for you i guess
He also thinks Mount Ararat is in Syria.
@@Lazy_Sundae He also doesn't believe in evolution.
@@queuecee Yeah, and there's that too 😆
Egypt isn’t in the Middle East either. 💀
You can't educate someone who doesn't want to learn
and when you throw in being indoctrinated from childhood, you get the caller
RJ:" Welcome to fantasy island"
Sumeria is recognised as the oldest civilisation and dates back to 5500BCE, though the area of the city of Damascus in Syria has been inhabited continuously since about 3000BCE to this day.
God also proves to be the creator of good and evil and that our final destination is predetermined by God.
Which makes sense when you are the only one present and n full control during creation.
Like a programmer creating all the parameters and functions for his software, and that software doing exactly as he programmed.
Though we humans create bugs and error in code, so it needs to be tested and debugged.
God never needed to test or debug, obviously.
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A god wouldn't necessarily disprove evolution any more than evolution necessarily disproves a god. It causes issues for some creationist myths, but beyond that, it's irrelevant. I'm not an atheist because Evolution. Though, it is easy to get sucked into these debates, because the mangling of the theory by apologists is annoying. Some of those apologists know it too. That's why they press it. If they can get you on the defense of Evolution then they don't have to provide an argument for a god.
ABSOLUTELY! Everybody can clearly see that a MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL!
Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce; NOT TO MENTION that first cell contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants! THAT is the bald face stupidity (atheism) UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. Can a MINDLESS ROCK create/design/produce the DIFFERENTLY TIMED HEART BEAT for the human being and each DIFFERENT ANIMAL? LOL! Atheism = pathological stupidity/denial/delusion.
God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
The personal incredulity arguments of evolution come from young earth creationists. There are MANY Christians who accept evolution, as well as science in general.
The Young Earth Creationists have to dispute almost all of science, including evolution, abiogenesis, and the Big Bang. But they have to dispute a lot of other established sciences such as nuclear sciences for radiometric dating. Or archeology that show civilizations older than 6,000 years. And sometimes even refute gravity if they are also flat earthers.
@@queuecee Evolution? No. What YOU HAVE NOT SEEN is the big bang. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN abiogenesis. YOU HAVE NOT SEEN NEW ANATOMY DIFFERING FROM ANCESTRY (evolution). You have to BELIEVE that atheist GARBAGE because NONE OF IT is testable, measurable or observable (scientific method) because it's not "SCIENCE" and NONE OF IT EXISTS. Case closed.
Archaic homo sapiens first harvested and then cultivated wild grains found in the Lavant and Fertile Crescent region. Our ancestors had to migrate FROM Africa to this area before sedentary cultivation developed.
DNA is a code In the same way a puddle is a swimming pool
If it wasn't a code, all life would be the same thing, if that. INSTEAD, it's the human being, 9 million DIFFERENT animals and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. You're debunked and your stupidity annoys me.
@@sineaddwanson9294 LMAO the irony of you calling others stupid is hilarious! you're a joke!
“Your stupidity annoys me..”
Pot, meet every F kettle on the planet.
No. DNA is a code the same way a swimming pool is a hydroelectric dam.
Never Ending Prison Sentence, alias Wrenceson, keeps putting hilariously arbitrary restrictions on science 🙄
RJ, here is an idea….when you want to make a point, articulate it. It makes it so much more interesting for the listener.
RJ, to finish a thought, you must first BEGIN the thought.
R.J. is the epitome of someone who isn't smart but tries really really hard to be smart
A decent analogy for the science term "theory" is "work in progress".
Unfortunately people who are Certain(tm) view anything less than Certainty as an admission of doubt, which they in turn interpret as trying to hide from the truth. Being absolutely certain about anything is dishonest at best. People who claim to be certain about something for a living? Yeah, avoid.
A simple "let me google that for you" post got me banned on Quora. It turns out that level of snarkiness is against their policies.
Bc the earth has deserts, the biblical flood is true - Christian logic
"A book says a thing."
That's the ENTIRE argument.
We need 100% proof of a supernatural god otherwise why bother??!!
You or I will never get that. Only belief and faith for over two thousand year plus!!
I spent a pleasant 14 years in County Down, next to the "Mountains of Mourne", and could climb from the beach of Dundrum Bay to the summit of Slieve Donard, about 1500 feet.
That is high enough for a high school student of geometry to know that by seeing the horizon reveal sea that is farther away than what one sees from the beach, or even halfway up, is explicable only if the sea isn't flat, but curved downwards. I dare say that in most of Babylon one has no such advantage
Correcting Seth, but Ken Miller isn't an "intelligent design guy." He actually was a witness for the defendant in the Dover v. Kitzmiller trial, and he debunked intelligent design's philosophy of irreducible complexity at the trial. Miller is a biologist, a Catholic, and accepts the modern evolutionary synthesis.
Goats are cool animals.
They are one of the goats.
@@steveanton763 Yeah, they've been like that since they were kids.
Goats are the greatest of all time.
They're the cool kids.
But as they mature they enter a nanny state.
Is this re-upload? I feel like I watched this video before.
It says "Throwback" in the title....
@@sXePunkV2 And the date on the screen :)
Yes, it's from 2020 but all theists make the same nonsense arguments anyway.
It has the date right on the video of 2020 and on the video it also says a throwback. So you can get your answer just by that information
@@an.d.m.athey dont have any new arguments. Lol
He says "oldest written language" but symbols with meaning used possibly to mark property are found prior to that in other places, like Jiahu china. They aren't writing systems like Sumerian Cuneiform but they show signs of I guess protocivilisations were showing up as early as the 7th millennium in other places.
As soon as RJ said "Life began in the Middle East" followed by "when Noah landed on Mount Ararat" he completely lost the plot. I can understand how religion warps, twists and bends the mind because propaganda, indoctrination and ideological persuasion are very real, but this guy's ignorance - in this very day and age - is beyond comprehension. It takes a religion to do this to a mind.
Wow, Dawkins made a really Daft argument: You can't change an ant into a crocodile, therefore there is no evolution!" LOL 😆 🤣 😆
As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
"God Proves Evolution Is Fake!"
Evolution Proves God Is Fake!
All the fossils are in the present... if the past was a true past and not a parallel reality, we wouldn't have memory at all
Both statements are false but evolution does provide a well-supported explanation for the diversity of life on planet earth.
@@MrMattSax I know, I just used it to show how dumb an argument it was.
@@MrMattSax that's only a point of view. All we have access to is awareness. In reality everything is here and now. Space and time are products our self fragmented awareness.
@@fustino5 sounds like some woo! Can you demonstrate that the past did not happen?
Seth just killed RJ. No notes. BAAA-HAHAHA!!
Caller brings up two fictitious stories about God’s jealousy, anger and, regret and thinks they should convince anyone, let alone the hosts.
Never Ending Prison Sentence continues to lunge at strawmen.
Then give me your ONE OBSERVED FACT for a Godless reality and stand back and watch me slaughter it.
@amtlpaul
Oh... He needs that attention.
He needs to be humiliated.
@dorsdonstowe9403 that's a lot of big talk from a proven lying hypocritical coward.
Are you ever going to stop running from everyone's debate challenge, or are you going to stay a spineless prisoner to the voices in your head?
That request makes no sense, especially since I am not claiming that there is no God.
@@dorsdonstowe9403 Why do you keep milking that "prove that god doesn't exist" thing? You don't need to prove a negative, that's not what the burden of proof is.
"Judaeo Christian?" Those are two completely different religions. Of course, the gods were often worried (in the Bible) that humans would become like them: this is why the Tower of Babble myth exists.
- what theists don't understand is the incredible amount of time nature has had to develop! !
Sir William Thomson, who became the first Lord Kelvin, had a pretty good idea that 100 million years was not long enough for Evolution by Natural Selection. He got that right,
He also proved, by thermodynamics and all available data, that this planet is at least 20 million years old, but he could think of no source of energy that'd give it more than 100 million. He was blamelessly ignorant of radioactivity, which is how we know his estimate, a huge improvement upon Ussher's Biblical one, was 100 times to low.
- how good that the earth is 4.5 billion years old then, then there is plenty of time for what is to come !!!
Another example of my personal pet theory about many fundies who don't believe evolution is a thing. A failure of imagination. Specifically where scale or scope is concerned.
Actually, evolution proves god is fake.
Evolution? No. There’s ZERO EVIDENCE for evolution. WE CLEARLY OBSERVE that all life is DYING/LOSING INFORMATION - NOT EVOLVING/GAINING INFORMATION. And there is no MIND in the model of evolution; thus, there is no purposeful order or design possible - even though you are desperate to believe it happened some way some how Longggg agoooo & farrrr awayyyy.
If evolution were true, all life would CLEARLY be in OBVIOUS TRANSITION w/ new anatomy that would emulate & thus prove “The Tree of Life” diagram where a whale, mosquito & pine tree transitioned from a one-celled microbe. It’s all NONSENSE that doesn’t happen/can’t happen/will never happen. We know GENESIS is the truth, because all life had to have all bodily systems created SUDDENLY & TOGETHER so that life could survive & thrive. GOD DID IT/ GOO DIDN’T.
You can't present the mechanism of evolution, nor have you dug up any "common ancestor," because LUCA doesn't exist and is impossible to exist. No atheist has any answers to anything of reality; thus, atheism is the very definition of being lost/clueless. We have the most advanced machine in the universe (the human being) and you think it came from a finite MINDLESS/PURPOSELESS mud puddle of goo? CLEARLY a person of intelligence, resources and power FAR BEYOND mankind, produced the high-complexity/high function found in the human being. There is no other sane or rational option. Engaging is desperate fantasy does not help you. You need start your thinking in focusing on what is possible vs what is impossible. In my 50 yrs experience, the atheist doesn’t know the difference.
Bottom up production from nothing/simple to the complex (big bang) isn’t possible. EVERYTHING can only come from a source of EVERYTHING; there is no magic such as “it spontaneously emerged!” or “It evolved!” WE OBSERVE TODAY that no warm pond or ocean pocket can PRODUCE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. So don’t fall for the lie of a Godless world.
We know that there’s no such thing as “natural causes” or “natural processes.” Can a rock produce a heart beat? NO. And THAT is the actual depth of the stupidity regarding the asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism. NO PART OF NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). So don’t fall for the lie of a Godless world.
Atheism isn’t logical. Atheism is nilism (life is meaningless) and yet we claim many things in the world have “meaning” - including ourselves. Atheism = desperate stupidity/pathological denial/delusion. PLEASE let me help you dump the asinine cult of atheism today. YOU ARE SPECIAL because God PURPOSELY created you in his image, because he wants a RELATIONSHIP with you! But he also gave you FREE WILL to choose. You have +/- 70 yrs on this earth FOR ONE PURPOSE: To accept or reject Jesus as your savior. Because you were born into sin and you have sinned and we all need a savior. HEAVEN is waiting on you! Let me help you get there.
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Notice how you still didn't accurately describe evolution?
I noticed.
@@sineaddwanson9294 no
@@an.d.m.a Like it matters what part of nature you claim to be a "natural cause?" NOTHING OF NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing).
Oh btw, as soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism).
Christian apologetics is so pathetically and transparently uncompelling.