important points at the end of the video - if the edges of the keys are sharp, it will be painfull and not possible. also if the guiding pins of the keys are not regulated properly and thus the keys are a bit sloppy, they will tend to lock up due to the sideways force and it will not work. but your piano technician can correct this! i had this done on my small (budget) yamaha grand some years ago and it made such a difference. before, it was just not possible to execute those octave glissandi. after the treatment it was almost like butter! ;)
I think Zimerman makes the piano sing just by force of will, and he puts his hands on the keys just to make it look like his fingers are involved. I'm on to him.
This effect worked extremely well (and effortlessly) on Beethoven's piano ... however, unless you have the correct instrument - this is not as achievable as it may seem from this video ...
@@paulinocontreras8426 It would be possible to change the contour of the white keys, in a little bit domed shape. After all, the black keys have this form already.
On some pianos that thumb thing likely wouldn't work if it has a real tough action. Other pianists appear to lift their hand a bit more and that may be a more accurate interpretation of the music despite this technique being pretty cool if it works for your tempo and given situation.
The thing is if you play a piano made before 1870 you will see a shallow depth where an octave glissando can be done w/the correct positon to do it however todays deep, stronger, louder keyboards it has to be figured out and practiced . Hormann did it in 1937 and everyone is doing it now ! I don't yet know how . Give me an old Broadwood, Erard or pleyel !
This brings to mind one of the climactic lines in the movie "War Games" : "The only winning move... is not to play." Glissando is unnatural for the hand, not worth it.
It all depends on the piano as we all know. Kissen plays the octaves almost as smoothly as the glissando. Once you get the balance and position of your hand, and float your forearm while you phrase the music, you will achieve your desired goal.
나는 희빈 장씨니라 꺄아하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하
![[PL] Krystian Zimerman - Interview on Polish television (1978)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BcuRqV_D5To/mqdefault.jpg)
Alternative title: Obi Wan Kenobi Teaching Waldstein Sonata and Brahms-Paganini Variations
😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏
i think its more "Luke Skywalker"
@@guilhermeassef8028 but where is the light saber?
@@sergiobaietta he is using the force, needn't any saber.
@@drachenfeuer7410 now I understand! You are right!💪🏻
important points at the end of the video - if the edges of the keys are sharp, it will be painfull and not possible. also if the guiding pins of the keys are not regulated properly and thus the keys are a bit sloppy, they will tend to lock up due to the sideways force and it will not work. but your piano technician can correct this! i had this done on my small (budget) yamaha grand some years ago and it made such a difference. before, it was just not possible to execute those octave glissandi. after the treatment it was almost like butter! ;)
He does it SO EASY!!!
He does it so relaxed. That's an example to learn from! He moves with his weight, not force.
Peter Chun of course it is zimmerman
Everything he is playing become magically easy!😍
@@sergiobaietta avoid saying that about successful people
@@aswomebro3217 why?
I think Zimerman makes the piano sing just by force of will, and he puts his hands on the keys just to make it look like his fingers are involved. I'm on to him.
How precious these videos!!!!!Thanl you so much for uploading
You definitely need a piano with a lighter action to accomplish this
yeah I can't imagine doing this on a Steinway concert
@@sanjj_1 OOF
Dude that would rip the skin under the nail so bad I don't even like thinking about it.
I have strong hands but I never ‚met‘ a piano where I couldn’t play octave (or anything between a third and a seventh) glissando.
One of my favorite "song" on piano is Ballade no 1 by Chopin and his interpretation It's so amazing..no words
Yea I love it to!!❤️❤️
Why do you emphesize "song"😂?
So you like "singing" it?
🤔 According to Oxford Reference, a ballad is “[a] poem or a song narrating a story in short stanzas.”
We almost don't notice he's just wearing his socks🤣🤣🤣🤣
That must be the secret
@@soroushkevinarjomandi4565 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the master class!
My pleasure!
I didn’t know that octave glissando was a thing!
And it hurt.
Hamelin Cadenza for Hungarian Rhapsody 2 featured this i think
@@bachouvenn430 wr0000000ng
Waldstein
@@bachouvenn430 it wasn't octaves. But it was a "harmonic glissando" if you could call it that
Un gran pianista, que maravilla ser su pupilo. Wow
This effect worked extremely well (and effortlessly) on Beethoven's piano ... however, unless you have the correct instrument - this is not as achievable as it may seem from this video ...
You're right it's very instrument dependant.
He mentions it in the video its dependant on the instrument. If the keys are moving too much for example it wont work.
@@paulinocontreras8426 It would be possible to change the contour of the white keys, in a little bit domed shape. After all, the black keys have this form already.
Very beautiful
Yesss
On some pianos that thumb thing likely wouldn't work if it has a real tough action. Other pianists appear to lift their hand a bit more and that may be a more accurate interpretation of the music despite this technique being pretty cool if it works for your tempo and given situation.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
great! I do the Moonlight on my channel. No glissando, but some nice arpeggios in the final movement.
Taking advice/class from Zimerman... I envy him, gotta admit
Me to!
I’m just starting 3rd movement of Waldstein and am wondering if I should just do the simplified glissando on the ending 😂
just do the Schnabel split hand method
I am going to try glissand.Does it meen to be able to listen ma
ny sound at the same time?anyway it said grest Zimerman so that is valuable.
THE THUMB OPEN!
I tried it and get able to watch my blad on the piece that i have never hurt!!
so hurt...
story by music 😂😂
The student in this video is Shen Wenyu,a talented Chinese pianist who was ruined by his father
Arthur Morgan oh my god! Alwayis the same story
how was he ruined by his father?
@@j0hn676 there are many ways for parents to ruin children...it happen many times in the families
@@j0hn676 He lost the chance to study abroad because of his father's shortsightedness
@@arthurmorgan4162 Who is the Broad that he was going to study?
What about the octave glissando going upward?
It spoils the fun for Beethoven in heaven!
In socks! :)
こういう人を、ピアノの魔術師という🎹
The thing is if you play a piano made before 1870 you will see a shallow depth where an octave glissando can be done w/the correct positon to do it however todays deep, stronger, louder keyboards it has to be figured out and practiced . Hormann did it in 1937 and everyone is doing it now ! I don't yet know how . Give me an old Broadwood, Erard or pleyel !
Claro, con esos pianos... hermoso. Llegamos a hacer eso en un piano de conservatorio argentino y mínimo triple fractura de falange
Hermoso video igual!
Wow!!!
Top
Wow
I wanna hear it in sixths :0
If you can easily stretch a 10th or more, then you can do an octave glissando on most pianos. It's really not much more complicated than that.
I can barely reach an octave :(
i could do major 10ths without extra notes unless one note is black and one is white
i can do 11th with 2 extra notes
also im 13
There was a longer version of this somewhere on TH-cam... Does someone know the name or have a link?
Sviatoslav Richter check Zimmerman masterclass
Sergio Baietta I already did - no success :(
Sviatoslav Richter they deleted ....I can’t find to!
I think they had to delete it because Zimerman said some unfriendly things about the place where he taught (Musikhochschule Basel).
Kommentator That's really unfortunate..
Use back of fingers.
The Waldstein brought me here...lol
Welcome!!
WTF thanks!!!
He executed the octave glissando with extended thumb as the second alternative. It must be much hurt than playing with thumb folded (on nail).
I would think of pain in the thumb. But it has to work, he isn't crying.
would this work on a piano with a stiff action?
Why don’t you try it?
no. I've tried and I just hurt myself
Hello can somebody translate please I would love to know what he is saying
Ho YY im not translating all of it but hes saying smth like „do it with this piece of your finger“ and „this way its easier“
Albinoson thanks!
세워서 치면 7도 글리산도가 되니 눕혀서 치면 옥타브 글리산도가 된다는 얘기 같은데 맞나요
OUCH 🤕
Le cours de piano à 1000000 euro ^^
jmwakbo hahahhaahha
'king of technic'
Master
Those pianos must have a very light key touch. Because I cannot do that at all on my grand
Me too
Which piece does he play at 00:24??
김창환 brahms Paganini variations
That's not Zimmerman... that's ParsatheCube.
Who is parasatecube?
Yes.
What language is he speaking
rip in pepperonies German
The master race!
Who is the student?
Lord Flashheart I don’t know
seems like Wenyu Shen
@@tonylian2050 Thank you very much. It is so sad that the full video of the masterclass isn't available on TH-cam anymore.
He was ruined by his father. He wanted to study a broad but his father wouldn’t let him.
I think he is shen wen yu
Мир сошёл с ума
i don't beilive what i am looking.......
Несколько тренировок и всё получится.
Yes just a little! 😂
Claudio Arrau, 1977, Bonn: th-cam.com/video/dL0JLNt_3EE/w-d-xo.html
This brings to mind one of the climactic lines in the movie "War Games" : "The only winning move... is not to play." Glissando is unnatural for the hand, not worth it.
Seems painful!
But ascending?
He says "Impossible". ;)
Easy, lie down on top of the piano so your hands are turned 180 degrees.
But how do you go up?!?!
No way
@@sergiobaietta Agreed. It can't physically work going up-- impossible using that idea.
With your left hand :P
What the hell jon snow is doing back there?
Rimango di sasso. ＼(◎o◎)／！
Perche?????
Ouch Ouch Ouch
😂😂😂
@@sergiobaietta I feel the pain when watching this XD
Wow they're speaking German
Jaaa!!
Full vid in channel of the pianist in the video
th-cam.com/video/u_Ys2S0N80c/w-d-xo.html
my teacher told me he just spits on his pinky and thumb
I'm still camp "non-glissando" and prefer Horowitz' way of playing it.
Krystian Zimerman could be the greatest pianist ever...
Well, you have not heard my mother when she is drunk. She rocks those keys!
Looks painful
Around 24:35
It all depends on the piano as we all know. Kissen plays the octaves almost as smoothly as the glissando. Once you get the balance and position of your hand, and float your forearm while you phrase the music, you will achieve your desired goal.
Is he a man or a woman, HOW DOES HE SIT CROSS LEGGED WOTH BALLD
you just need a better designed keyboard (wink, wink) ;)
Tuner/technicians cringe as they apply all that side force to the keys.
나는 희빈 장씨니라 꺄아하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하하
정신병자 같은× 너 정말 이러고싶니 하???
Who is the student?
Simasuki Sinamiko
Wenyou Shen ,He is a Chinese pianist living and working in China. I love his piano and listen to his piano everyday.