I am a fan of mr. Manu. I like his views and attitudes on history. His version on history is likely to be honest and unbiased. I bought 'danthasimhasanam'. My next book in my wish list is 'rebel sultan' and sure next to it is 'ganikayum italiyan brahmananum' Mr. Manu is brilliant and kerala adore having an young historian like him. 🌹🌹🌹
Quite interesting, very informative and eye opening. Salute to Manu S Pillai. Hope these kind of talks help to open up Malayalees' minds and brains instead of getting sucked down by the so-called traditions and religion.
What a beautiful insight of our past and the transition to modernity. Was extremely impressed by Manu's article on Paliath Achan and recently I another on Parvaty Bai Verma afer her demise. One feels proud of the Travancore Royal family which had ushered in revolutionary changes in Kerala society, the benifits if which we are enjoying today. Any way I am going to buy that book immediately.
@@Krishna-nu8nv whole kerala is malai nadu ,kurunji nilam..Will there history changed just because sanskrit mixed with tamil language.?All venad before 1760 were tamils only. ..
@@pkmk679 What do you mean history? Venad was ruled by tamil kingdoms but malayalam started since 1000 at least. We have an identity of our own and of course Tamil was part of that too, but why would Ummayamma Rani, a malayalee queen's movie be in tamil? You people are just like hindi supremacists lol.
Its sad how colonization actually regressed our values in many ways and the modern gulf muslims too. Nowadays muslim women are so restricted, there are so many women in pardah in malabar area and its a very recent phenomenon too, in late 90s - 2000s maybe
All we keralite are one unit and has such a great unity, but I think people at malabar side are more softer. This might happens thoroughout the Era/civilization, see @6:30, manu explain the history, Sammothiri time, we accepted the "natural truth" and called "തമ്പുരാട്ടി", but in cochin and trivandrum women ruler has titled "തമ്പുരാൻ", a slight bolder approch.
Two interest thoughts. How irrespective of the gender the the queen was called ' തമ്പുരാൻ ', even now in government offices the the lady is occupying a high bureaucratic position, is addressed by some as "Saar" (Mallu version of 'Sir'). Also Manu referred the husband of the queen as subject/അടിമ I think he meant more like പ്രജ
ഇപ്പോഴും matrilineal system നമ്മുടെ രാജ്യത്തു നിലനിൽക്കുന്നുണ്ടു്. ഉദാഹരണത്തിന് കമാത്തിപ്പുരയിലും അതു പോലുള്ള മറ്റു പ്രത്യേക സമൂഹങ്ങളിലും matrilineal system തഴച്ചുവളരുന്നു നിൽക്കുന്നു, ഇപ്പോഴും തുടരുന്നു.. അതു പോലെ തന്നെ മനുവിന്റെ മഹാറാണി obsession ശ്രദ്ധേയമാണ്. മഹാറാണികളെ മാതൃകയാക്കാത്ത ഒരു വലിയ സമൂഹം കൊട്ടാരങ്ങൾക്കു പുറത്തുണ്ട്. അവരുടെ ജീവിതങ്ങളും പ്രതിസന്ധി കളം അതിജീവിക്കലു മാണ് ഈ സംസ്ഥാനത്തിന്റെ ചരിത്രം. അതും രേഖപ്പെടുത്താൻ മനുവിനെപ്പോലുള്ള ചരിത്രകാരന്മാർക്ക് കഴിയട്ടേ.
Agreed. I had questions regarding how the non-royal families in kerala were, were they similar in structure and values? Would love for manu to cover it. Royal family is only a minority
Nair brithya jana sangham was formed during the fall of Ottoman Empire...as per survey nss have around 164 groups of different tribes and ethnicity..after cross breeding.they have around 36% j2 haplogroup which originated in mesopotami area
It was abolished because of britishers. Recently I came across a british-era (early 1900s) book about women in India and they were describing women in kerala exactly as manu has been saying - tribalistic, concubine, moral-less etc
@@deepathomas3130 hi deepa, am curious to know some of those "other" reasons u are aware of ,otherthan the obvious caste privilege in our sick and downtrodden racial society.
@@indianetizen some academicians, from personal conversations, consider surname which bear caste not as privilege, but the shame that bear. This might sound absurd. Some do consider it as a baggage that reminds them of the privileges they and their ancestors have had at the cost of the marginalised. I don't justify bearing caste surnames but have heard one or two people saying their reason. So just thought of bringing up a possibility. That's it.
And some people choose to counter this by adding dalit, ezhavan, pulayan as surname to their names. I am not still sure of where to place my opinion on this idea of having caste in surnames.
Almost All The Properties Nair Tarwads had had were Amassed and aquired by the MEN. MAYBE BY THEIR MATERNAL UNCLES OR THEIR BROTHERS AND IN SOME CASE EVEN BY THEIR OWN FATHER.
no need because today caste system exist only for caste leaders existence such as sukumaran nair, vellapally nadeshan, ..and it was something politics so no need for
Nairs are the most dominant community in kerala, There are over 45 lakh Nairs and around 70 lakh nair sub groups like Vilakkithala nair, chakkala nair etc. The total population of OBC and General nairs are more than 1 crore which is one third of total kerala population. The Ezhavas had only 15% population in kerala.
You don’t seem to be well read/informed.. Marumakkathyam existed among Thiyyas of North Malabar and also in some parts of Travancore. Even the Muslims of North Malabar/ Lakshadweep follow Marumakkathyam. In fact, after the abolition of Hindu joint family in 1976, Marumakkathyam now exists only among the Muslims referred to above. Curiously, these Muslims followed the Sharia while inheriting property/ self acquired of their father, and followed the Marumakkathyam law while inheriting ancestral property.
Ezhavas were never 70%.In old times nair population was much bigger. Nair population decreased due to forcible conversions during mysore invasion in malabar, conversions to Christianity in Travancore and later due to strip adherence to family planning.
It is also said that THE NAMBOODIREES LOST MOST OF THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH SAMMANDHAM WITH NAIR LADIES. If a NAIR WOMAN Had many NAMBOODIRI husbands in sammamdham they AMASSED WEALTH Squeezing Them.
The nair women or their children had no property rights to Namboodiiri. They weren't even allowed to call him father, let alone amass wealth. Sambadham was a way for namboodiri men other than the elder one who couldn't marry namboodiri women to cohabitate with Nairs and a way for Nair tharavads to continue their matrilineal system and have social advancement through relationship with higher caste men.
Nair's of today still carry the stigma of yesteryears. The women are still dominating and the men genetically degraded. Nair's have to be economically growing to keep the community relevant or sambhadam will follow
No one accepted anything from Brahmins......it was considered a sin to accept "brahmaswom".....Brahmins only take from others.......In sambandams with Brahmins....the pudava will be of the women...... people were not ready to take even a piece of cloth from Brahmins.
In ISLAM EVEN THOUGH WOMEN HAD LIMITED FREEDOM, THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DIVORCE HER HUSBAND AND ALSO FUSQUE(deemed as divorce) A MISSING HUSBAND FOR CERTAIN FIXED PERIOD.(maybe missing for two years). AND THOUGH SHE INHERITED HALF OF THE AMOUNT OF HER BROTHER , SHE INHERITS HER FATHER , MOTHER HER HUSBAND AND HER SON AND EVEN CHILDLESS SIBLINGS.
Give me a break. Islam has regressed kerala so so much. Women in parda was never a thing in kerala until these muslim men who went to middle east and came back. After that you see extremely restricted women in parda a lot. Even the moral policing culture is thanks to regressive muslims. They say its our culture but they mean saudi arabian culture. I don't hate islam or muslims, and i am a leftist, but I hate this aspect about islam.
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Manu.. Rocking...
Interview ൽ ശ്രദ്ധിച്ച ഒരു കാര്യം English discussion ൽ മലയാളം വാക്കുകൾ കൂടുതൽ കേറിവരുന്നു....
സാധാരണ നേരെ തിരിച്ചാണ് സംഭവിക്കാറ്..
Discussion superb..
We don't have to be very strict on this, facts are more important if its nicely convincing
I am a fan of mr. Manu. I like his views and attitudes on history. His version on history is likely to be honest and unbiased. I bought 'danthasimhasanam'. My next book in my wish list is 'rebel sultan' and sure next to it is 'ganikayum italiyan brahmananum' Mr. Manu is brilliant and kerala adore having an young historian like him. 🌹🌹🌹
great historian of this era👍👍👍 icon of this generation .gift of God.
Quite interesting, very informative and eye opening. Salute to Manu S Pillai. Hope these kind of talks help to open up Malayalees' minds and brains instead of getting sucked down by the so-called traditions and religion.
I am a big fan of Manu, he is simply awesome...great
A great fan of your writing and Research !
Deeply engrossed in conversation and Overflowing wisdom of Manu Smriti. . Feeling proud.
What a beautiful insight of our past and the transition to modernity. Was extremely impressed by Manu's article on Paliath Achan and recently I another on Parvaty Bai Verma afer her demise. One feels proud of the Travancore Royal family which had ushered in revolutionary changes in Kerala society, the benifits if which we are enjoying today. Any way I am going to buy that book immediately.
Such a brilliant and down to earth person.❤
The story of Umayamma Rani has every scope of being made into a movie.
🙂
Yes..It should be in Tamil only..
@@pkmk679 Why in Tamil?
@@Krishna-nu8nv whole kerala is malai nadu ,kurunji nilam..Will there history changed just because sanskrit mixed with tamil language.?All venad before 1760 were tamils only. ..
@@pkmk679 What do you mean history? Venad was ruled by tamil kingdoms but malayalam started since 1000 at least. We have an identity of our own and of course Tamil was part of that too, but why would Ummayamma Rani, a malayalee queen's movie be in tamil? You people are just like hindi supremacists lol.
Manu im a great fan of yours
Read your Rebel Sulthans and Ivory Throne
Waiting for your next ❤❤
his 3rd book has already released
@@myname-wh2ud which one?
@@ക്ലാര-ഘ7ന the courtesan,mahathma and italian brahmin
Great yaar...
@@myname-wh2ud oh okay tku 😊😊
He poured water on her glass first! What a gentleman!
Absolutely rocking historian😍
Superb works... And at such a young age ...
Manoo...... love you beta ❤❤❤
Manu സർ കേരളത്തിന് ആവശ്യം...
Manu Pillai fan !
Had read manus article on kochi paliath achan in Hindu sunday supplememt. All these were mentiomed therein
Good research work
Royal nostalgia still exists in other countries like Britain, Japan etc.
Beautiful interaction ❤
Excellent interviewer too..
Manu S Pillai..💪💪
Its sad how colonization actually regressed our values in many ways and the modern gulf muslims too. Nowadays muslim women are so restricted, there are so many women in pardah in malabar area and its a very recent phenomenon too, in late 90s - 2000s maybe
All we keralite are one unit and has such a great unity, but I think people at malabar side are more softer. This might happens thoroughout the Era/civilization, see @6:30, manu explain the history,
Sammothiri time, we accepted the "natural truth" and called "തമ്പുരാട്ടി", but in cochin and trivandrum women ruler has titled "തമ്പുരാൻ", a slight bolder approch.
Paradigm shift in the life of women. Very interesting and well discussed session. Good analysis. Now reading non fiction sounds more interesting 😊
Historical man
Manu sir fannnn😍
Two interest thoughts.
How irrespective of the gender the the queen was called ' തമ്പുരാൻ ', even now in government offices the the lady is occupying a high bureaucratic position, is addressed by some as "Saar" (Mallu version of 'Sir').
Also Manu referred the husband of the queen as subject/അടിമ I think he meant more like പ്രജ
Subject cannot be translated to അടിമ. അടിമ is slave. Subject is പ്രജ. The subjects of a Queen or a King.
Now our prime minister is trying to empower ladies by giving prominent power in their family.
Why the anchor interrupt his talk without any apology??!!
VERY WELL EXPLAINED
Manu dear son... amazing
Brilliant young man.
awesome ❤️
Real history.... from manu......
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മനു.,.💪💪💪
Manukuttii👍👍
ഇപ്പോഴും matrilineal system നമ്മുടെ രാജ്യത്തു നിലനിൽക്കുന്നുണ്ടു്. ഉദാഹരണത്തിന് കമാത്തിപ്പുരയിലും അതു പോലുള്ള മറ്റു പ്രത്യേക സമൂഹങ്ങളിലും matrilineal system തഴച്ചുവളരുന്നു നിൽക്കുന്നു, ഇപ്പോഴും തുടരുന്നു.. അതു പോലെ തന്നെ മനുവിന്റെ മഹാറാണി obsession ശ്രദ്ധേയമാണ്. മഹാറാണികളെ മാതൃകയാക്കാത്ത ഒരു വലിയ സമൂഹം കൊട്ടാരങ്ങൾക്കു പുറത്തുണ്ട്. അവരുടെ ജീവിതങ്ങളും പ്രതിസന്ധി കളം അതിജീവിക്കലു മാണ് ഈ സംസ്ഥാനത്തിന്റെ ചരിത്രം. അതും രേഖപ്പെടുത്താൻ മനുവിനെപ്പോലുള്ള ചരിത്രകാരന്മാർക്ക് കഴിയട്ടേ.
Agreed. I had questions regarding how the non-royal families in kerala were, were they similar in structure and values? Would love for manu to cover it. Royal family is only a minority
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Have you come across the rani 's name 'ummaiammai' or ' ummai ammal ' in any of nair family now ?
She is Umayamma..Kerala names have changed across castes and time.
Nair brithya jana sangham was formed during the fall of Ottoman Empire...as per survey nss have around 164 groups of different tribes and ethnicity..after cross breeding.they have around 36% j2 haplogroup which originated in mesopotami area
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After the Land Reforms Act got implimented, Matrilineal System has no more Role to Play.
Matrilineal system was discarded before the Land Reforms. The Travancore state took the decision to end the matrilineal system.
It was abolished because of britishers. Recently I came across a british-era (early 1900s) book about women in India and they were describing women in kerala exactly as manu has been saying - tribalistic, concubine, moral-less etc
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Aranu മനു ഒന്നു പറഞ്ഞു തരാമോ
KIZHAKKADATHU VENU author of the book ‘ The ivory throne’
He's a historian and has written many books, one of which is 'the ivory throne'.
Manu, drop that caste tail in your name and be my hero.
ഒ പിന്നെ..നിന്റെ ഫാൻ ആയിട്ടു വേണ്ടേ അവനു. പോയി പണി നോക്കെടേ
He might have his own reason for keeping it or his own reasons not to remove it. Many academicians keep their surnames for other reasons.
@@deepathomas3130 hi deepa, am curious to know some of those "other" reasons u are aware of ,otherthan the obvious caste privilege in our sick and downtrodden racial society.
@@indianetizen some academicians, from personal conversations, consider surname which bear caste not as privilege, but the shame that bear. This might sound absurd. Some do consider it as a baggage that reminds them of the privileges they and their ancestors have had at the cost of the marginalised.
I don't justify bearing caste surnames but have heard one or two people saying their reason. So just thought of bringing up a possibility. That's it.
And some people choose to counter this by adding dalit, ezhavan, pulayan as surname to their names. I am not still sure of where to place my opinion on this idea of having caste in surnames.
Almost All The Properties Nair Tarwads had had were Amassed and aquired by the MEN. MAYBE BY THEIR MATERNAL UNCLES OR THEIR BROTHERS AND IN SOME CASE EVEN BY THEIR OWN FATHER.
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Travencore history .... Travencore is one place of kanyakumari dist... 🤫🤫🤫🤫.. history very big ... don't spread fake history
Manu Pillai fan, me too!
Savarna Nostalgia.
But EZHAVAS THE MOST PREDOMINANT CLASS WERE PATRILINEAL. THEY WERE ALMOST 70 % OF THE SOCIETY.
no need
because today caste system exist only for caste leaders existence
such as sukumaran nair, vellapally nadeshan, ..and it was something politics
so no need for
Nairs are the most dominant community in kerala, There are over 45 lakh Nairs and around 70 lakh nair sub groups like Vilakkithala nair, chakkala nair etc.
The total population of OBC and General nairs are more than 1 crore which is one third of total kerala population.
The Ezhavas had only 15% population in kerala.
You don’t seem to be well read/informed.. Marumakkathyam existed among Thiyyas of North Malabar and also in some parts of Travancore. Even the Muslims of North Malabar/ Lakshadweep follow Marumakkathyam. In fact, after the abolition of Hindu joint family in 1976, Marumakkathyam now exists only among the Muslims referred to above. Curiously, these Muslims followed the Sharia while inheriting property/ self acquired of their father, and followed the Marumakkathyam law while inheriting ancestral property.
Ezhavas were never 70%.In old times nair population was much bigger. Nair population decreased due to forcible conversions during mysore invasion in malabar, conversions to Christianity in Travancore and later due to strip adherence to family planning.
Look if only there is to pass from one generation to another there is a need for a daayakremam
Attingal moothu thamburan and Attingal ele thamburan discussing house matters...
Matriarchy is non aryan,non Dravidian,non indian,.... possibly it is from mesopotami area
I think something dangerous happened in his family
It is also said that THE NAMBOODIREES LOST MOST OF THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH SAMMANDHAM WITH NAIR LADIES. If a NAIR WOMAN Had many NAMBOODIRI husbands in sammamdham they AMASSED WEALTH Squeezing Them.
That's s how this ammachi house still exist.
The nair women or their children had no property rights to Namboodiiri. They weren't even allowed to call him father, let alone amass wealth. Sambadham was a way for namboodiri men other than the elder one who couldn't marry namboodiri women to cohabitate with Nairs and a way for Nair tharavads to continue their matrilineal system and have social advancement through relationship with higher caste men.
Nair's of today still carry the stigma of yesteryears. The women are still dominating and the men genetically degraded. Nair's have to be economically growing to keep the community relevant or sambhadam will follow
@@jacobjohn3768 Really, i belong to the said community and don't see what you speak of !
No one accepted anything from Brahmins......it was considered a sin to accept "brahmaswom".....Brahmins only take from others.......In sambandams with Brahmins....the pudava will be of the women...... people were not ready to take even a piece of cloth from Brahmins.
In ISLAM EVEN THOUGH WOMEN HAD LIMITED FREEDOM, THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DIVORCE HER HUSBAND AND ALSO FUSQUE(deemed as divorce) A MISSING HUSBAND FOR CERTAIN FIXED PERIOD.(maybe missing for two years). AND THOUGH SHE INHERITED HALF OF THE AMOUNT OF HER BROTHER , SHE INHERITS HER FATHER , MOTHER HER HUSBAND AND HER SON AND EVEN CHILDLESS SIBLINGS.
Freedom, koppanu, Malabar has most number if child marriages in Kerala
Give me a break. Islam has regressed kerala so so much. Women in parda was never a thing in kerala until these muslim men who went to middle east and came back. After that you see extremely restricted women in parda a lot. Even the moral policing culture is thanks to regressive muslims. They say its our culture but they mean saudi arabian culture. I don't hate islam or muslims, and i am a leftist, but I hate this aspect about islam.
WHAT ABOUT RAZIA SUTHANA IN THE 12TH CENTURY.? There were Also BEEBIS OF ARAKKAL MUSLIM ROYAL FAMILY THE ONLY MUSLIM ROYAL HOUSE
What is the use on talking about this nonsense. Can you please tell us what do achieve out this talk?
സതീശാ.....
amachikku onnu thirichu poya kolaam,aaninte unda arinju kolu kalikkaan enthaa rasam
to know where you are going you need to know where you came from.
@@raouulkay7351 Such a defiled mind like yours wouldn't understand the point of this discussion.
@manu are u secretly mesmerised,or support this matriarchy,men should be men..
Yeah. Men should be real men who respect women and not male chauvinists which is the manifestation of insecurity
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ഇംഗ്ലീഷ് മനസിലായില്ല അല്ലേ.🤭
@@jomy6170 തന്നെപ്പോലുള്ള അടിമകളെ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ച തന്നെ തള്ളുന്നത്
എന്ത് തള്ളിനെ പറ്റി ആണ് പറയുന്നത് ?
Nalla sankadam ondalle
Ith english l irangiya 1 book aanu.. malayalikalk vendi mathram ezhuthiyathalla. Pinne e discussion ne kurichanu paranjathenkil, same promotion major states l ellam und.
Ni poda patti