I bought a 2023 Pathfinder Platinum in the first week of June 2023. It is now August 24 2023 and just got back from a 7711 km road trip. This vehicle is amazing. Comfort is top notch with very little driver and passenger fatigue. my wife has Parkinsons and is like the princess and the pea when it comes to comfort. Our last leg of our journey entailed 1175 km in one day and she had no complaints about comfort and no driver fatigue. Over our 7711 km trip, the Pathfinder performed flawlessly over all kinds of road conditions as we toured Newfoundland from Ontario. I would not hesitate to recommend this vehicle. We bought a 20-foot travel trailer and the Pathfinder tows it with no problem, although gas consumption suffers while towing.
I test drove both as well as the Toyota Highlander , the Nissan Pathfinder ( in my opinion), was the smoothest , and had the nicest interior, and was the quietest
As a Honda dealer myself u go to Nissan be u have piss poor credit wait till u go to trade that thing in and it hold 15% value while the Honda holds 85%
I've been with Honda very bad customer service. And I ended up with Nissan best customer service and insurance policy. Nissan hands up, I'll never go back to Honda again.
I own a 2016 Pathfinder, with close to 170,000 miles on it and have had no trouble at all with it. Love Pathfinders so much, that i bought a 2023 Platnum Pathfinder and simply love this SUV. I still have the 2016 as it has been perfectly reliable. One of many things you guys did not mention, is how you can change your main instrumentation panel to a completely different look. Over all you two did a good job. As far as Nissan reliability, I have owned about 8 Nissans and have had 0 trouble with any of them. Though i am a Honda fan as well, i do like the way Nissan aestetically designs thier vehicles, but that is always personal preferance. 😊
We got a 23 Pathfinder Platinum and absolutely love it. The interior is amazing and the biggest seller was physical buttons for the radio, and the storage under the center console. Plus, there still is not any inventory for the new Pilot and heard some first year issues already so glad we got a Pathfinder. And no need to compare to Telluride or Palisade, KIA/Hyundia are throw away cars that'll leave you stranded. Pilot, Pathfinder and Highlander are definitely the top of the segment.
If I was buying right now, the fact that Honda is bringing the SH-AWD from the Acura line is reason enough. Even with the accolades it's garnered over the years, it cannot be overstated how good it is. Truly ones of Honda's greatest engineering designs.
The iVTM AWD in the Honda is tuned a bit differently than the SH-AWD in the Acura line. Very similar, but the SH-AWD systems are tuned more for driving and cornering ability
What aspects of the SH AWD are you planning on using? Can you even tell a regular awd vs sh awd on a heavy weight family suv? Those are just sale gimmicks to attract customers. In reality with where these suvs are going to be driven 99.9% of the time, it doesn’t matter if you have sh or regular awd.
I'm leaning, strongly, towards the Nissan Pathfinder. Lately, Nissan has peeked my curiosity in their approach to great exterior and interior design... with a pinpoint focus on interior comforts and functionality. Way to go Nissan!
I have always loved the Honda Pilots but not offering the tow package standard and only a 5,000 lbs of towing is a big mistake. The 2023 Nissan Pathfinders gives you the tow package standard with 6,000 lbs of towing. To me, that's HUGE and makes Nissan Pathfinders the better option. Hopefully, someday Honda will come to their senses and include the tow package standard and up their tow capacity. So far I love my 2023 Nissan Pathfinder!
Boy u know times has changed when the Pilot & Pathfinder after taxes will be almost $60,000. I remember back in early 2000s - 2016, they both were priced around $25k-30k. In the next 5 years, they will 75k
@@CarsandTechInfo in 2030, a Toyota RAV4 will be priced at $60,000 - $65,000. In 2016-2019, the RAV4 was $17,999. Now in 2024, they’re $40,000 - $45,000🥴
I think both are extremely good and you really couldn’t go wrong with either one. I would lean towards the pathfinder just because I find it more aesthetically pleasing. Good comparison though
Its not only the cvt that makes a car solid and reliable, the interior quality, suspension parts quality, taillights, headlights brakes engine quality,etc.
I drove a new Pathfinder for a week (rental) while I was car shopping. That is not an easy task for me at 6'4". Ultimately went with the Pilot. I will say the seats in the Pathfinder were probably more comfortable, but the steering wheel felt too far away even when extended to the max, and the space between the door and the seat was too tight. I also had a constant fear of breakong things in the Pathfinder. It looked fine, but there was too much play in the plastics on the controls and steering wheel. The steering wheel felt like a cheap video game controller covered in leather. The drive mode selector was about as rigid as a soda bottle top. There were other areas that left me with concerns about how well it would hold up long term. The driver assistance in the Pathfinder was frustrating. I found it complaining or actually turning off some of the features if I didnt have both hands closer to the 10 and 2 position even for brief periods. The infotainment screen felt like it was slightly angled away from the driver and the tuning knob on the right hand side was a stretch even for me. Another issue, though probably something I would have gotten used to if it were my daily driver, is the placement of the remote start button on the key fob. It is where the Lock button is on most others. On a couple of occasions, I came back to the car with the engine running after thinking I had locked the car, and unlike others I have driven with remote start, it didnt turn off after 15 minutes. I will say the 360° view cameras were good and the overhead view might be a slight bit better than the Pilot. The Pilot also feels smaller and lighter than it should for its size when driving. Though the steering can feel extremely light with the lane assist turned off. Price being equal for similar features, Pilot should hold its value much better with better reliability.
Im 5’7 , should be ok for me i suppose. Still contemplating on getting the pilot or pathfinder. I do want something that can offroad. Landcruiser is over my budget definitely
@@doug6191 That's not true. Honda engines, other than the early turbo four, have all been rock solid and the 10 speed has been tested and refined for probably 6 or 7 years. This Pilot is mechanically sound for 200k to 300k.
Car Journalists want to keep going to press events and getting cars to review, so they must be careful about what they can say. For example, 1 automotive journalist said some harsh things about a VW SUV, and the company no longer wants to work with that particular journalist.
@@TypicalGuy84 every Honda I know needed the trans replaced even acura. Everyone of my friends and family had transmission issues with Honda even my uncles civic dulib with the manual
@VR JA well according to everyone else my 2016 altima cvt was supposed to have 3 transmissions. I have 420k miles and have spent 0 bucks on transmission repairs.
Bottom line Perception of value drives the Honda resale way beyond any Nissan Regardless of the real numbers Honda has a higher resale. It’s a no brainer
One major difference that i have noticed is the fuel economy, i have a nissan pathfinder 2022 and i can easily get 29 to 30 on highways and long trips, on pilot that is simply not possible. in the long run this would mean nissan pathfinder can save at least $1200 per year. its makes a huge difference in long run
How did you calculate $1200 savings? Hypothetically if you save 5mpg/yr if gas was $3/gal you’d have to drive 60k miles/yr to save $1200. @$4/gal drive 45k miles/year. Typically most people drive 12-15k miles/yr so would be closer to $300/yr if there was a 5mpg savings.
I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Pilot Sport three weeks ago. It is bigger and looks better than previous generations. It's gas mileage is average, performance is OKish, nothing impressive. The brake is not responsive, you have to push the brake harder to get it stopped. But, The second day, the check engine light on. Here is the message:"Emissions system problem. Power may be reduced. See dealer". I immediately drove it to the dealership Service Dept. But, that Service Advisor said I did not make an appointment and has a kind of "do not care" attitude. It took me lots of efforts and almost 5 trips, eventually, they said it a sensor issues which is in some kind of value of the gas tank areas.They put order to replace the value and sensor. But, it has been over 15 days and no ETA from the supplier! Plus, the driver side wiper blade simply flew away the first time I turned it on in the heavy rain. It took three phone calls and two appointments to get the new wiper blade installed because it need to be "ordered" also. On the left side of back window, the bottom trim is not glued well and can easily peel off and has not fixed by the Service Dept yet. Since 1996,I used two Honda Accord which were very reliable. and a Honda Odysessy van which had transmission issues after 6 years. After that, I bought new Acura MDX and drove it for over 15 years and very reliable. That is the reasons I come back to bought this 2023 Honda Pilot. But, looks like Honda's build quality dramatically degraded. If I have choice now, I will NEVER buy Honda cars again. First, the manufacturing quality is very bad from my experience with the brand new Pilot, secondly, the experience with the Service dept is very bad also. Especially with the ordering of parts, it take over 15 days , no ETA ! what's hectic ! From the Honda manufacturer to the Service, the Honda is degrading big time. I will not recommand anybody to buy the 2023 Pilot.
Bought my wife a 23 Pathfinder platinum red two tone with the black roof. Captain seats are our favorite part of the interior. We love the car. Took it to Disney and that drive was a dream!
I have had the 2022 Pathfinder for a year and half so far. It's been good smooth and quiet ride . Finally took it on a family road trip recently and the car was amazing. I have an SL trim . I think people will consider Pathfinder after walking into a Honda dealership seeing how overpriced the Pilot is. Nissan has alot to prove with replacing their transmission but I think they will steal some customers.
Yeah..same here bought 2022 SL premium last year. I was about to get the highlander couldn’t justify waiting for 3 months. Our family indeed needed new family car due to our previous leased expired. We’ve done many road trips and the seats is so comfy. The best gas mileage was 8.0L/100km during break in period. I got the boulder grey colour and love the gunmetal rims that flows with the car. Overall, friend of ours really do dig and we get a lot of head turners saying great looking car. We love this car no regrets!!
just purchased a pathfinder and very happy with it. liked the pilot too but in my area dealers are still demanding msrp or marking up from msrp and only offering 4-5% financing.. Nissan is discounting slightly from msrp and also was offering 0% making the pathfinder significantly less expensive and a no brainer for me. also i think (personally imo) the pathfinder looks better.
Bought the 2022 pathfinder SL with the premium package for 45k. You just can’t beat it. 20 inch wheels, 360 cameras, & all the bells and whistles. I like the pilot too, but I just prefer the rugged look of the pathfinder.
@@XDMIIIIIIIII its ridiculously quiet, and the rumble of the engine is really nice too, not too quiet, but not too loud either. Test drove the pathfinder and the telluride and the pathfinder felt so much smoother
Just took a trip to the mountains in our 23’ platinum, and it was absolutely amazing to see a crossover family car handle like this thing does. Almost zero body roll and extremely precise steering. Slightly wider tires and these things would be perfect. We pulled off after a pretty hard run through the mountains and a guy in a scat pack pulled in behind us absolutely mind blown that we left him behind in the corners. Drive one for yourself if you’re considering a 3 row family wagon.
I really like both new redesigns. The popular opinion for the old pilot was that it aged well, but I completely disagreed; it looked so 2016. However the old pathfinder looked like it was from 2010. Really glad you are reviewing the new models.
Those Pathfinders be hitting different when I see one pass me with the blacked out v-motion/pathfinder lettering 😍 The Pilot also looks extremely good compared to its last generation. I do notice Nissan/Honda tend to make a lot of similar choices in a lot of their vehicles design elements/features/packages
I just bought the 2023 with the blacked-out grill in 2-tone red with the black roof and black roof rails. Hands down the best looking of all these mid-size SUVs.
I used to have a 2012 Pilot for 10 years. Now I drive a 2017 Pathfinder. My wife has a 2021 Pilot. If were to get new iterations in the near future, we'd get either one. Pilot ALWAYS have amazing space, especially for a family of 5...but the new Pathfinder is a very handsome SUV.
Over the last year I was so sure I would land on choosing a Pilot. But at the end I went with Pathfinder... it came down to just how I fell in love with it when I saw it in person
Pilot VS Grand Highlander I think should be the next one. Both should be really close and I can’t wait to see what you guys think would be over the other!
Thanks for that comparison 👍 We appreciate your effort. I would have to choose Pilot over Pathfinder because of the lake of reliability of the Pathfinder these last couple years...
Actually the V6 in the Nissan is good and the transmission is identical to the previous pilot. As much as Nissan has issues, I wouldn’t worry about this gen pathfinder. Last gen though? I wouldn’t pick up a used one since that’s way too big of a car for a CVT
Exactly, I planned on getting a Highlander until they switched to the turbo 4 cylinder. That's what led me too look at the pathfinder. What a blessing that was, I love it.
I think both are very nice. The big hit on the Pathfinder is the first year bugs downgrading it's reliability statistics. Great move to dump the CVT - they should do that on their whole line.
Both are great. However, no one can touch the current Nissan Pathfinder 18 month lease deals. With One Pay Lease combined with Multiple Security Deposits you can drive a brand new base for $215/month or splurge for a Platinum at around $400/month
Thanks guys. Narrowing down my decision to purchase in the spring. I’m also leaning toward the Pilot just because of the reliability but since Nissan got rid of the CVT transmission I will test drive the Pathfinder. Your videos have been a huge help.
Great comparison, they are similar vehicles, I would raise Nissan's points a bit considering that Honda-Acura continues to use a timing belt on its V6s and not a chain, as it should.
@@zuhairjanbi1887The only complaint with the telluride was the app. The UVO system is trash. The auto engine off thing stop working. With the Path, I feel like is builded with better quality. Leather feels better
Just bought a platinum after trading my Gladiator. I absolutely love it and so does the family! Smoothest ride I’ve ever driven and amazing features. It also handles really well and has surprising power
Pathfinder - love the zero gravity seats and ProPilot Assist. Better deal than overpriced marked up Honda. Even though the pilot may have a higher resale value, your paying for it up front with the markup and high APR.
you see how many things been changed in their new models, and you know how thoughtful their redesign. they both did great job to let toyota understand his current shrinked highlander model not gonna win in this segment competition. you guys compare the highest trim of the two, but when you go lower trim, honda actually removed the acoustic glass front window on sports trim and acoustic windshield on LX, which meas the lower trim gonna be extreamly much more noise than the one you test. also this year the EXL trim only have front row leather and Leatherrite the 2nd 3rd row seats. cheap honda
Yesterday I bought my Pathfinder for the same reason, it's so comfortable and beautiful ❤ we are in love with it, we also went to see similar ones from Toyota, like the Highlander and the Rav4 but they are so rigid inside. So we choose the Pathfinder. We are in love with our new SUV.
I am in the market. I looked at both. Nissan is winning for me. Ultimately the comfort of the seats especially the driver seat. I melted into the drivers seat it was so comfortable. The Pilot was very uncomfortable and I know it sound weird but there was no where for my elbows. Anyway Nissan for me, bonus my kids found the Nissan more comfortable as well
I'm looking at both of these right now. I have a 2020 Passport and I will tell you, it has electrical issues that make me lean toward the Pathfinder even though Nissan doesn't quite have the reliability reputation of Honda. With the Passport many things just don't work correctly. The cruise control doesn't pace properly, the auto high beams don't ever work, the radio crackles and pops, and the phone audio also crackles and pops.
I went with a 23 Pathfinder SL. Family of 4 and we came from a 21 Wrangler. I like both, but got a better deal with Nissan. We are enjoying the Pathfinder. Extra 3 inches in the 3rd row would be nice in the Pilot when the occasion rises, but that is not often. We have captains chairs in the 2nd row. The SL comes with everything that a EX-L level Pilot would have. Smaller LED drivers screen, No HUD, and no ventilated seats. I'll wait for next summer to see if we hold or trade for a Grand Highlander or CX-90.
@billyjones589 (48k) MSRP. If I was buying now I could have went under 2-3k. They took my complete jeep loan, so I was pretty happy. The SL we chose has 20" wheels, 2nd row captains chairs, blacked out emblems and most features a Platinum trim has except: - HUD - cooled ventilated seats (I only have heated seats) - memory seats - electronic tilt steering wheel adjustment. Probably a couple of other items, but not really deal breakers.
You gave a point for pilot for a middle seat that can be removed. We bought the pathfinder because the opposite. We liked how it didn’t have a seat to pull out. Pathfinder also tows more and has standard cross roof bars Pathfinder also here in Canada is quite a bit less expensive to buy. Good video to show how similar they are though
To each their own, but how possibly could extra flexibility in seating options/capacity be a drawback? You want a 2nd row bench and never touch the middle seat? No problem! You want 2nd row captain chairs? No problem! Think their clever engineering is the best of both worlds. 👍
Living in Canada, I'd get the better AWD system. Pilot can have both seating arrangements, which is actually a plus because you can leave it the way you want it... or not.
Another thing… I know folks in America are tall, but how about we talk about SHOULDER ROOM IN 3RD ROW?!?!?!? THAT’s arguably more impactful for comfort than leg room considering that 2nd row can move forward a bit…
So if comparing the two in the video where the pricing was almost the exact same price then you have to go Honda based on reliability and costs on down the road. If Nissan wants to sell more they should reduce the price by 3-5k.
Idk if the Pilot has the same feature but the pathfinder second row rolls forward by pushing one button and it can do it with a car seat in it. The competitors don’t have that feature and for families that’s a big deal. Especially if you have a baby in your arms and you only have one free hand to use. That’s a whole point or more
toyota and honda msrp 50k, then actually paid 55k to have it. nissan msrp 50k, then actually paid 45k to have it. after 5yr, toyota and honda sale 35k, and nissan at 25k. thats the way to make you feel you have superior resale value.
I just switched from a 2019 Honda Ridgeline (many similar parts to Honda) to 2024 Nissan PF Rock Creek. I had numerous problems with Honda transmission, fuel injectors, electrical issues, etc. The nail in the coffin was the recall on the engine bearing. They are not your Dad's Honda anymore. Since Nissan moved away from CVT, they listened to their customers and earned my business.
I am really skeptical for the push button shifting being down in the console area, that just looks like it would make me very uncomfortable like I am always going to accidentally change gears
Accidentally sent mine in to neutral while doing about 50, not a problem, scared me more than anything, a nice feature is that to switch into reverse you have to push an extra button.
Not sure if you mentioned it but the Pathfinder comes with a really good quasi autopilot system that steers the steering wheel and makes driving on Long stretches of Road a breeze
I really like this new Honda Pilot, worse I have an accord and 2 other Hondas before this one. Looks like a great contender. However, even though I never owned a Nissan before, the one feature my wife wanted (Panoramic Sunroof), makes the Pathfinder is better value for money. I don't think this PF will be unreliable. Just take care of the VQ and all should be well. I didn't try to test drive the Pilot simply because I am not paying $10k CAD extra (before taxes) to have worse fuel economy, less towing capacity. PL SL is 23 MPG and I alot of highway which yields 27-29 mpg, driver's seats is 12-way, passenger is 10-way where I am and is 8 passengers.
Nice review! Both look like great vehicles but if I had to choose one, I would probably go with the Honda because of the iVTM4 system, Honda's slightly better reliability reputation, and the fact that the Pilot has higher North American content and manufacturing than the Pathfinder. If the Pilot was unavailable for some reason, I would probably get the Pathfinder and be perfectly happy with it.
It would be a big help if you mention, and show, if the 3rd row is power folding or not and how it folds, like how fast or a manual help is needed. Thank you.
Great review & comparison segment! I don’t think you could go that wrong with either vehicle. I’d lean more towards to Pilot, it ticks more boxes & has more storage space. I would hands down take a TrailSport over a Rock Creek edition- the Rock Creek seems like a wheel package upgrade with a roof rack & badging - plus the Rock Creek had manual controls for the passenger seat that we test drove. Always had a place in my heart for the Pathfinder as I use to have a 1995 pathfinder. It was an amazing vehicle and hopefully they can continue to get this generation to that level - I just see Nissan chasing all the competition again, at a similar price point. Would like to see a comparison of the TrailSport vs Rock Creek!!!
The base model of the pathfinder before taxes is $45,000 Canadian. The pilot base model before taxes is $50,600 Canadian. The pathfinder is the better deal all through the trims as it always undercuts the pilot. $74,000 Canadian for a 2023 Honda pilot black edition??? No way am I buying a vehicle for that price.
Those Nissan seats are incredibly comfortable. I bought a Altima 3.5 SR IN 2016 over the Honda Accord and the clincher was the seats! Since then I have purchased 2 Titans and they are amazingly comfortable also.
still go with the honda ...... if they where only rear wheel drive base mazda is going to kill it with the new rear wheel drive cx90 rear wheel drive inline I-6 good review
This is a great comparison! I would definitely pick the Pilot! I am currently an Acura owner and with the huge revamp of the Pilot I am looking into it for my next car.
I bought a 2023 Pathfinder Platinum in the first week of June 2023. It is now August 24 2023 and just got back from a 7711 km road trip. This vehicle is amazing. Comfort is top notch with very little driver and passenger fatigue. my wife has Parkinsons and is like the princess and the pea when it comes to comfort. Our last leg of our journey entailed 1175 km in one day and she had no complaints about comfort and no driver fatigue. Over our 7711 km trip, the Pathfinder performed flawlessly over all kinds of road conditions as we toured Newfoundland from Ontario. I would not hesitate to recommend this vehicle. We bought a 20-foot travel trailer and the Pathfinder tows it with no problem, although gas consumption suffers while towing.
I test drove both as well as the Toyota Highlander , the Nissan Pathfinder ( in my opinion), was the smoothest , and had the nicest interior, and was the quietest
Mpg highway?
Just got a pathfinder. The local Nissan dealer was fantastic. The dealer made the car desirable. I’m pleased with the performance.
You right, I was at Honda and Nissan. End up with pathfinder just because dealer attitude. At Honda they ask 5000 over msrp lol.
As a Honda dealer myself u go to Nissan be u have piss poor credit wait till u go to trade that thing in and it hold 15% value while the Honda holds 85%
@@cashl4128 funny my credit is over a 800 and I bought a Nissan, Honda’s suck by the way!
@@cashl4128of course the Honda worker will talk sh- about the other brand 🤦♂️
I've been with Honda very bad customer service. And I ended up with Nissan best customer service and insurance policy. Nissan hands up, I'll never go back to Honda again.
I own a 2016 Pathfinder, with close to 170,000 miles on it and have had no trouble at all with it. Love Pathfinders so much, that i bought a 2023 Platnum Pathfinder and simply love this SUV. I still have the 2016 as it has been perfectly reliable.
One of many things you guys did not mention, is how you can change your main instrumentation panel to a completely different look.
Over all you two did a good job.
As far as Nissan reliability,
I have owned about 8 Nissans and have had 0 trouble with any of them.
Though i am a Honda fan as well, i do like the way Nissan aestetically designs thier vehicles, but that is always personal preferance. 😊
I echo your voice. Nissan is my favorite brand.
2016 is mallfinder with cvt horrible
We got a 23 Pathfinder Platinum and absolutely love it. The interior is amazing and the biggest seller was physical buttons for the radio, and the storage under the center console. Plus, there still is not any inventory for the new Pilot and heard some first year issues already so glad we got a Pathfinder.
And no need to compare to Telluride or Palisade, KIA/Hyundia are throw away cars that'll leave you stranded. Pilot, Pathfinder and Highlander are definitely the top of the segment.
The fact the Pathfinder tows more makes a better rugged SUV!
If I was buying right now, the fact that Honda is bringing the SH-AWD from the Acura line is reason enough. Even with the accolades it's garnered over the years, it cannot be overstated how good it is. Truly ones of Honda's greatest engineering designs.
The iVTM AWD in the Honda is tuned a bit differently than the SH-AWD in the Acura line. Very similar, but the SH-AWD systems are tuned more for driving and cornering ability
What aspects of the SH AWD are you planning on using? Can you even tell a regular awd vs sh awd on a heavy weight family suv? Those are just sale gimmicks to attract customers. In reality with where these suvs are going to be driven 99.9% of the time, it doesn’t matter if you have sh or regular awd.
I would be absolutely shocked if the SH-AWD out performed the pathfinder in the corners. The handling performance is nothing short of amazing.
@@MikeJones-il1dcI wouldn’t
@@MikeJones-il1dcSHAWD has been winning races
I'm leaning, strongly, towards the Nissan Pathfinder. Lately, Nissan has peeked my curiosity in their approach to great exterior and interior design... with a pinpoint focus on interior comforts and functionality. Way to go Nissan!
Peeked or "piqued" your curiosity?
Shame their reliability is crap.
@@Sam-M7 its gotten better
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I have always loved the Honda Pilots but not offering the tow package standard and only a 5,000 lbs of towing is a big mistake. The 2023 Nissan Pathfinders gives you the tow package standard with 6,000 lbs of towing. To me, that's HUGE and makes Nissan Pathfinders the better option. Hopefully, someday Honda will come to their senses and include the tow package standard and up their tow capacity. So far I love my 2023 Nissan Pathfinder!
Boy u know times has changed when the Pilot & Pathfinder after taxes will be almost $60,000. I remember back in early 2000s - 2016, they both were priced around $25k-30k. In the next 5 years, they will 75k
😂 madness
No they wouldn't reach that much bc that's where the MDX & QX60 are already priced depending on the model
@@CarsandTechInfo in 2030, a Toyota RAV4 will be priced at $60,000 - $65,000. In 2016-2019, the RAV4 was $17,999. Now in 2024, they’re $40,000 - $45,000🥴
I think both are extremely good and you really couldn’t go wrong with either one. I would lean towards the pathfinder just because I find it more aesthetically pleasing. Good comparison though
Thanks!
I think reliability trumps asthetics.
@@alcerz984 whatever works for YOU
@@alcerz984 The Nissan has no cvt, so it is reliable.
Its not only the cvt that makes a car solid and reliable, the interior quality, suspension parts quality, taillights, headlights brakes engine quality,etc.
I drove a new Pathfinder for a week (rental) while I was car shopping. That is not an easy task for me at 6'4". Ultimately went with the Pilot. I will say the seats in the Pathfinder were probably more comfortable, but the steering wheel felt too far away even when extended to the max, and the space between the door and the seat was too tight. I also had a constant fear of breakong things in the Pathfinder. It looked fine, but there was too much play in the plastics on the controls and steering wheel. The steering wheel felt like a cheap video game controller covered in leather. The drive mode selector was about as rigid as a soda bottle top. There were other areas that left me with concerns about how well it would hold up long term. The driver assistance in the Pathfinder was frustrating. I found it complaining or actually turning off some of the features if I didnt have both hands closer to the 10 and 2 position even for brief periods. The infotainment screen felt like it was slightly angled away from the driver and the tuning knob on the right hand side was a stretch even for me. Another issue, though probably something I would have gotten used to if it were my daily driver, is the placement of the remote start button on the key fob. It is where the Lock button is on most others. On a couple of occasions, I came back to the car with the engine running after thinking I had locked the car, and unlike others I have driven with remote start, it didnt turn off after 15 minutes. I will say the 360° view cameras were good and the overhead view might be a slight bit better than the Pilot. The Pilot also feels smaller and lighter than it should for its size when driving. Though the steering can feel extremely light with the lane assist turned off. Price being equal for similar features, Pilot should hold its value much better with better reliability.
I’m 6’4 and I bought the pathfinder. I sat in the pilot and noticed the extra space but I liked the pathfinder more
I’m 6’5 and bought the 2023 pathfinder and have no issues with the space.
Im 5’7 , should be ok for me i suppose. Still contemplating on getting the pilot or pathfinder. I do want something that can offroad. Landcruiser is over my budget definitely
6'4 but the knob was a stretch for you? 🤔I guess at 5'7 I'm not gonna be able to reach it at all
The pilot is probably a little better, but the Pathfinder is so close and it’s going for a lot cheaper after dealer discounts compared to the pilot.
I would take the Honda Pilot based on reliability and dependability alone. Something that most journalists never talk about in their reviews.
@@doug6191 That's not true. Honda engines, other than the early turbo four, have all been rock solid and the 10 speed has been tested and refined for probably 6 or 7 years. This Pilot is mechanically sound for 200k to 300k.
Car Journalists want to keep going to press events and getting cars to review, so they must be careful about what they can say. For example, 1 automotive journalist said some harsh things about a VW SUV, and the company no longer wants to work with that particular journalist.
@@TypicalGuy84 every Honda I know needed the trans replaced even acura. Everyone of my friends and family had transmission issues with Honda even my uncles civic dulib with the manual
@VR JA well according to everyone else my 2016 altima cvt was supposed to have 3 transmissions. I have 420k miles and have spent 0 bucks on transmission repairs.
Bottom line
Perception of value drives the Honda resale way beyond any Nissan
Regardless of the real numbers Honda has a higher resale.
It’s a no brainer
One major difference that i have noticed is the fuel economy, i have a nissan pathfinder 2022 and i can easily get 29 to 30 on highways and long trips, on pilot that is simply not possible. in the long run this would mean nissan pathfinder can save at least $1200 per year. its makes a huge difference in long run
How did you calculate $1200 savings? Hypothetically if you save 5mpg/yr if gas was $3/gal you’d have to drive 60k miles/yr to save $1200. @$4/gal drive 45k miles/year. Typically most people drive 12-15k miles/yr so would be closer to $300/yr if there was a 5mpg savings.
I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Pilot Sport three weeks ago. It is bigger and looks better than
previous generations. It's gas mileage is average, performance is OKish, nothing impressive. The
brake is not responsive, you have to push the brake harder to get it stopped. But, The second day,
the check engine light on. Here is the message:"Emissions system problem. Power may be reduced. See
dealer". I immediately drove it to the dealership Service Dept. But, that Service Advisor said I
did not make an appointment and has a kind of "do not care" attitude. It took me lots of efforts
and almost 5 trips, eventually, they said it a sensor issues which is in some kind of value of the
gas tank areas.They put order to replace the value and sensor. But, it has been over 15 days and no
ETA from the supplier! Plus, the driver side wiper blade simply flew away the first time I turned
it on in the heavy rain. It took three phone calls and two appointments to get the new wiper blade
installed because it need to be "ordered" also. On the left side of back window,
the bottom trim is not glued well and can easily peel off and has not fixed by the Service
Dept yet. Since 1996,I used two Honda Accord which were very reliable. and a Honda Odysessy van
which had transmission issues after 6 years. After that, I bought new Acura MDX and drove it for
over 15 years and very reliable. That is the reasons I come back to bought this 2023 Honda Pilot.
But, looks like Honda's build quality dramatically degraded. If I have choice now, I will NEVER buy
Honda cars again. First, the manufacturing quality is very bad from my experience with the brand
new Pilot, secondly, the experience with the Service dept is very bad also. Especially with the
ordering of parts, it take over 15 days , no ETA ! what's hectic ! From the Honda manufacturer to
the Service, the Honda is degrading big time. I will not recommand anybody to buy the 2023 Pilot.
Bought my wife a 23 Pathfinder platinum red two tone with the black roof. Captain seats are our favorite part of the interior. We love the car. Took it to Disney and that drive was a dream!
I bought the same with the premium package. Last weekend I towed a 5,600-pound travel trailer with no problems.
I have had the 2022 Pathfinder for a year and half so far. It's been good smooth and quiet ride . Finally took it on a family road trip recently and the car was amazing. I have an SL trim . I think people will consider Pathfinder after walking into a Honda dealership seeing how overpriced the Pilot is. Nissan has alot to prove with replacing their transmission but I think they will steal some customers.
Agreed. Also bought the SL model with premium package. You’re not missing much from the platinum at this trim. Great car so far.
Yeah..same here bought 2022 SL premium last year. I was about to get the highlander couldn’t justify waiting for 3 months. Our family indeed needed new family car due to our previous leased expired. We’ve done many road trips and the seats is so comfy. The best gas mileage was 8.0L/100km during break in period. I got the boulder grey colour and love the gunmetal rims that flows with the car. Overall, friend of ours really do dig and we get a lot of head turners saying great looking car. We love this car no regrets!!
You get it back on resale for Honda.
just purchased a pathfinder and very happy with it. liked the pilot too but in my area dealers are still demanding msrp or marking up from msrp and only offering 4-5% financing.. Nissan is discounting slightly from msrp and also was offering 0% making the pathfinder significantly less expensive and a no brainer for me. also i think (personally imo) the pathfinder looks better.
yesterday we bought the pathfinder platinum with the same deal, 0% interest we are so happy is so pretty!
Bought the 2022 pathfinder SL with the premium package for 45k. You just can’t beat it. 20 inch wheels, 360 cameras, & all the bells and whistles. I like the pilot too, but I just prefer the rugged look of the pathfinder.
How’s the ride quality? Is it soft?
@xdm1488 oh it feel planted and plush
@@XDMIIIIIIIII its ridiculously quiet, and the rumble of the engine is really nice too, not too quiet, but not too loud either. Test drove the pathfinder and the telluride and the pathfinder felt so much smoother
Just took a trip to the mountains in our 23’ platinum, and it was absolutely amazing to see a crossover family car handle like this thing does. Almost zero body roll and extremely precise steering. Slightly wider tires and these things would be perfect. We pulled off after a pretty hard run through the mountains and a guy in a scat pack pulled in behind us absolutely mind blown that we left him behind in the corners. Drive one for yourself if you’re considering a 3 row family wagon.
I really like both new redesigns. The popular opinion for the old pilot was that it aged well, but I completely disagreed; it looked so 2016. However the old pathfinder looked like it was from 2010. Really glad you are reviewing the new models.
I believed he already did
Yes, we're hoping to compare some more combinations soon 👍
Those Pathfinders be hitting different when I see one pass me with the blacked out v-motion/pathfinder lettering 😍 The Pilot also looks extremely good compared to its last generation. I do notice Nissan/Honda tend to make a lot of similar choices in a lot of their vehicles design elements/features/packages
I noticed that too about similar options and designs decisions
Overall this was a fairly close comparison.
I just bought the 2023 with the blacked-out grill in 2-tone red with the black roof and black roof rails. Hands down the best looking of all these mid-size SUVs.
@@ClassicFIHD the 2023 what 😂
@@TrussttN01 Pathfinder
YOU GUYS FORGOT TO GIVE THE PATHFINDER A COUPLE OF POINTS IT WAS QUIETER AND GOT BETTER GAS MILEAGE
They did say they had to redo the sound test since the environment wasn't the same, plus during the test, they were at a press event.
I used to have a 2012 Pilot for 10 years. Now I drive a 2017 Pathfinder. My wife has a 2021 Pilot. If were to get new iterations in the near future, we'd get either one. Pilot ALWAYS have amazing space, especially for a family of 5...but the new Pathfinder is a very handsome SUV.
Over the last year I was so sure I would land on choosing a Pilot. But at the end I went with Pathfinder... it came down to just how I fell in love with it when I saw it in person
Pilot VS Grand Highlander I think should be the next one. Both should be really close and I can’t wait to see what you guys think would be over the other!
Mazda CX90 vs Grand Highlander is more like it.
Thanks for that comparison 👍
We appreciate your effort.
I would have to choose Pilot over Pathfinder because of the lake of reliability of the Pathfinder these last couple years...
Actually the V6 in the Nissan is good and the transmission is identical to the previous pilot. As much as Nissan has issues, I wouldn’t worry about this gen pathfinder.
Last gen though? I wouldn’t pick up a used one since that’s way too big of a car for a CVT
Thank you!
@@CarConfections the pilot has 113 cubic feet
I can see Honda and Nissan are stepping up their game, Both design looks insane!
I hope these two will be top sellers in their class to show other brands it was a bad idea to downsize their engines in a 3 row suv.
Exactly, I planned on getting a Highlander until they switched to the turbo 4 cylinder. That's what led me too look at the pathfinder. What a blessing that was, I love it.
I think both are very nice. The big hit on the Pathfinder is the first year bugs downgrading it's reliability statistics. Great move to dump the CVT - they should do that on their whole line.
I would most all the thumbs up are from Nissan owners who had one of the CVT's that failed before 100,000 miles.
$5000 bucks to fix a design flaw.
After test driving all models of the same level, I chose pathfinder . love it
Pathfinder all the way. More in stock and below msrp. Better towing. Seats are awesome
Yeah, the better towing on the Pathfinder is my decision maker.
Both are great. However, no one can touch the current Nissan Pathfinder 18 month lease deals. With One Pay Lease combined with Multiple Security Deposits you can drive a brand new base for $215/month or splurge for a Platinum at around $400/month
PLEASE explain I would love a good deal .. Tell me how u structured that deal .. Thank U
Love this review, very well done....thanks, I'm torn between the Pathfinder and the Pilot.
good review, both options are better than the Telluride.
Thanks guys. Narrowing down my decision to purchase in the spring. I’m also leaning toward the Pilot just because of the reliability but since Nissan got rid of the CVT transmission I will test drive the Pathfinder. Your videos have been a huge help.
Great comparison, they are similar vehicles, I would raise Nissan's points a bit considering that Honda-Acura continues to use a timing belt on its V6s and not a chain, as it should.
Thanks!
I bought My wife 2023 Honda Pilot and kept My 2005 290,000 Miles still drives Like New ! They are Wonderful Vehicles ❤️😊
Nice review and jobs guys, Nissan pathfinder is #1 for me, thank you!
Thank you!
I'm a Honda guy since day one! But I'm in love with my Pathfinder Platinum. I trade in my 2020 Telluride for a 2023 Platinum and wow!
What is your opinion on both pathfinder vs telluride?
@@zuhairjanbi1887The only complaint with the telluride was the app. The UVO system is trash. The auto engine off thing stop working. With the Path, I feel like is builded with better quality. Leather feels better
Just bought a platinum after trading my Gladiator. I absolutely love it and so does the family! Smoothest ride I’ve ever driven and amazing features. It also handles really well and has surprising power
Exciting comparison compared to other ones!
Pathfinder - love the zero gravity seats and ProPilot Assist. Better deal than overpriced marked up Honda. Even though the pilot may have a higher resale value, your paying for it up front with the markup and high APR.
you see how many things been changed in their new models, and you know how thoughtful their redesign. they both did great job to let toyota understand his current shrinked highlander model not gonna win in this segment competition. you guys compare the highest trim of the two, but when you go lower trim, honda actually removed the acoustic glass front window on sports trim and acoustic windshield on LX, which meas the lower trim gonna be extreamly much more noise than the one you test. also this year the EXL trim only have front row leather and Leatherrite the 2nd 3rd row seats. cheap honda
I have 2023 pathfinder for 2 months now i think this is a great suv after coming out of Lincoln continental it is extremely comfortable
Yesterday I bought my Pathfinder for the same reason, it's so comfortable and beautiful ❤ we are in love with it, we also went to see similar ones from Toyota, like the Highlander and the Rav4 but they are so rigid inside. So we choose the Pathfinder. We are in love with our new SUV.
Martini your last name 😂❤
I am in the market. I looked at both. Nissan is winning for me. Ultimately the comfort of the seats especially the driver seat. I melted into the drivers seat it was so comfortable. The Pilot was very uncomfortable and I know it sound weird but there was no where for my elbows. Anyway Nissan for me, bonus my kids found the Nissan more comfortable as well
I'm looking at both of these right now. I have a 2020 Passport and I will tell you, it has electrical issues that make me lean toward the Pathfinder even though Nissan doesn't quite have the reliability reputation of Honda. With the Passport many things just don't work correctly. The cruise control doesn't pace properly, the auto high beams don't ever work, the radio crackles and pops, and the phone audio also crackles and pops.
There was a recall for this they have to rip car apart to replace all the connectors. There’s a video. Insane. But have it done if radio is crackling.
I own a 2006 Honda Pilot, 280k miles with regular maintenance.
Went with a Rock Creek over the Trailsport due to the $7000 price difference.
I went with a 23 Pathfinder SL. Family of 4 and we came from a 21 Wrangler. I like both, but got a better deal with Nissan. We are enjoying the Pathfinder. Extra 3 inches in the 3rd row would be nice in the Pilot when the occasion rises, but that is not often. We have captains chairs in the 2nd row. The SL comes with everything that a EX-L level Pilot would have. Smaller LED drivers screen, No HUD, and no ventilated seats. I'll wait for next summer to see if we hold or trade for a Grand Highlander or CX-90.
What kind of deal did you get on the Pathfinder?
@billyjones589 (48k) MSRP. If I was buying now I could have went under 2-3k. They took my complete jeep loan, so I was pretty happy. The SL we chose has 20" wheels, 2nd row captains chairs, blacked out emblems and most features a Platinum trim has except:
- HUD
- cooled ventilated seats (I only have heated seats)
- memory seats
- electronic tilt steering wheel adjustment.
Probably a couple of other items, but not really deal breakers.
I’m buying the Nissan. The VQ engines are so reliable.
You gave a point for pilot for a middle seat that can be removed. We bought the pathfinder because the opposite. We liked how it didn’t have a seat to pull out.
Pathfinder also tows more and has standard cross roof bars
Pathfinder also here in Canada is quite a bit less expensive to buy.
Good video to show how similar they are though
To each their own, but how possibly could extra flexibility in seating options/capacity be a drawback? You want a 2nd row bench and never touch the middle seat? No problem! You want 2nd row captain chairs? No problem! Think their clever engineering is the best of both worlds. 👍
Living in Canada, I'd get the better AWD system. Pilot can have both seating arrangements, which is actually a plus because you can leave it the way you want it... or not.
@@squidusn71 our pathfinder is a tank in Canadian winters. Winter tires and 4wd she is better then my f150 by far.
@Corvettes with Bowie winter tires ftw.
I’d take the Pathfinder!
Also me just yesterday, is so beautiful and confortable inside we love it ❤
Just bought the Pilot love it!
I would pick the Honda
I prefer the Pilot because I have a 2023 Honda Odyssey. It's the second Odyssey I have owned and the 4th New Honda I have purchased since 2014.
I truly love your comparison reviews. Definitely the best.
Thanks so much!
Another thing… I know folks in America are tall, but how about we talk about SHOULDER ROOM IN 3RD ROW?!?!?!? THAT’s arguably more impactful for comfort than leg room considering that 2nd row can move forward a bit…
So if comparing the two in the video where the pricing was almost the exact same price then you have to go Honda based on reliability and costs on down the road. If Nissan wants to sell more they should reduce the price by 3-5k.
Honda pilot: lets redesign every year to get the highest markup.
Nissan pathfinder: lets redesign every 10 years
Winner - Nissan pathfinder.
I'd take either of these over a 4Cyl turbo competitor, may bo get the best gas mileage but Honda and Nissan make some reliable and good sounding V6
What I only like about the Pilot is the dual exhaust. other than that, Path for me.
The dash design is a but clear to me compared to the pathfinder.
Idk if the Pilot has the same feature but the pathfinder second row rolls forward by pushing one button and it can do it with a car seat in it. The competitors don’t have that feature and for families that’s a big deal. Especially if you have a baby in your arms and you only have one free hand to use. That’s a whole point or more
Very good comparison video. Loved the side-by-side shots.
Awesome, thank you!
Nissan has the most comfortable seats in the industry. I had a Murano for 5 years, no issues.
I see so many good looking Pathfinders on the road these days. The two tone Platinum with roof racks is definitely my choice.
I have a 2023 Premium in red with the black top, black roof racks and all black grill. It does look the best of all of them.
@@ClassicFIHD I have the silver with the black roof it looks awesome with tinted windows as well. I love my pathfinder
@@petersondesrosiers5024 I like silver and the gunmetal colors too.
I have a dark green SL premium package with the 20 inch dark wheels. It’s a beauty.
The new Pathfindet has 44.5" of front leg room!!! This is for driver and passenger! Great for tall people.
Love this. We hve 2018 pilot and pathfinder. Thinking of upgrading soon
Best Pathfinder was the '87. It was truck based and a true off-roader!
Nissan is more beautiful styling for me in all aspects but pilot is beautiful suv too. So you can never go wrong with this 2 suv.
As an investment, Honda and Toyota are far superior in resale value
toyota and honda msrp 50k, then actually paid 55k to have it. nissan msrp 50k, then actually paid 45k to have it. after 5yr, toyota and honda sale 35k, and nissan at 25k. thats the way to make you feel you have superior resale value.
The Pilot needs a rear-view monitor, 12.3" screen and a hybrid powertrain.
For real.
I have a feeling they will add the 12.3" screen next year. But I doubt they will add the digital rearview mirror!
no please dont ,replace a v6 to a hybrid with small turbo? highlander sounds like a dying curse.
@@fanli279 I hope it’s a J35 hybrid.
I just switched from a 2019 Honda Ridgeline (many similar parts to Honda) to 2024 Nissan PF Rock Creek. I had numerous problems with Honda transmission, fuel injectors, electrical issues, etc. The nail in the coffin was the recall on the engine bearing. They are not your Dad's Honda anymore. Since Nissan moved away from CVT, they listened to their customers and earned my business.
I was leaning towards the Pathfinder. But now I think the pilot would be the best choice. Thanks guys! 👍
You bet!
Pilot for its reliability👍👍
I am really skeptical for the push button shifting being down in the console area, that just looks like it would make me very uncomfortable like I am always going to accidentally change gears
Accidentally sent mine in to neutral while doing about 50, not a problem, scared me more than anything, a nice feature is that to switch into reverse you have to push an extra button.
Both good looking SUV’s. in my opinion, I’d choose the pathfinder, especially if it’s fully blacked out. Very sharp looking on the road
Not sure if you mentioned it but the Pathfinder comes with a really good quasi autopilot system that steers the steering wheel and makes driving on Long stretches of Road a breeze
Pilot does the same thing with the LKAS and ACC.
I like the hardened surface in the way-back area of the Nissan. Easy to clean and put dirty stuff.
I have been driving the new QX60 2022 which is similar to the Nissan Pathfinder. It’s great and has no issues in past 1 and a halt Years
Isn't it a CVT transmission though?
@@FoyLo They change it to ZF 9 speed automatic.
Awesome review! I’d definitely need to check both vehicles in person if I had to buy one.
Thank you!
The decision will go to how much discount you will get from Nissan and how much markup or delivering wait time you will tolerate from Honda😊
Please MDX vs Pilot
I really like this new Honda Pilot, worse I have an accord and 2 other Hondas before this one. Looks like a great contender. However, even though I never owned a Nissan before, the one feature my wife wanted (Panoramic Sunroof), makes the Pathfinder is better value for money. I don't think this PF will be unreliable. Just take care of the VQ and all should be well.
I didn't try to test drive the Pilot simply because I am not paying $10k CAD extra (before taxes) to have worse fuel economy, less towing capacity. PL SL is 23 MPG and I alot of highway which yields 27-29 mpg, driver's seats is 12-way, passenger is 10-way where I am and is 8 passengers.
Nice review! Both look like great vehicles but if I had to choose one, I would probably go with the Honda because of the iVTM4 system, Honda's slightly better reliability reputation, and the fact that the Pilot has higher North American content and manufacturing than the Pathfinder. If the Pilot was unavailable for some reason, I would probably get the Pathfinder and be perfectly happy with it.
I like both , but I have a Pathfinder right now , great vehicle , the Honda , is a smoother ride
Both are great, but when you compare the price pathfinder has better pricing option than pilot. I would get Nissan.
It would be a big help if you mention, and show, if the 3rd row is power folding or not and how it folds, like how fast or a manual help is needed. Thank you.
Great review & comparison segment!
I don’t think you could go that wrong with either vehicle. I’d lean more towards to Pilot, it ticks more boxes & has more storage space. I would hands down take a TrailSport over a Rock Creek edition- the Rock Creek seems like a wheel package upgrade with a roof rack & badging - plus the Rock Creek had manual controls for the passenger seat that we test drove.
Always had a place in my heart for the Pathfinder as I use to have a 1995 pathfinder. It was an amazing vehicle and hopefully they can continue to get this generation to that level - I just see Nissan chasing all the competition again, at a similar price point.
Would like to see a comparison of the TrailSport vs Rock Creek!!!
Awesome Comparison review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Pilot's frontend looks similar to a kia sorento while the rear looks like the previous land rover discovery sport...
The base model of the pathfinder before taxes is $45,000 Canadian. The pilot base model before taxes is $50,600 Canadian. The pathfinder is the better deal all through the trims as it always undercuts the pilot. $74,000 Canadian for a 2023 Honda pilot black edition??? No way am I buying a vehicle for that price.
Those Nissan seats are incredibly comfortable. I bought a Altima 3.5 SR IN 2016 over the Honda Accord and the clincher was the seats! Since then I have purchased 2 Titans and they are amazingly comfortable also.
About equal until you get to the handling and transmission. Advantage Honda. Only reason I haven't picked up the Nissan, the ZF 9 speed.
still go with the honda ...... if they where only rear wheel drive base mazda is going to kill it with the new rear wheel drive cx90 rear wheel drive inline I-6 good review
This is a great comparison! I would definitely pick the Pilot! I am currently an Acura owner and with the huge revamp of the Pilot I am looking into it for my next car.
Honda all day long. Great video thank you.
You're welcome!
I would choose Pilot definitely durability. Hopefully '24, '25 will have 3.0L plugin hybrid pushing 350hp and have at least a 40mile electric range
Nice comparison. I would definitely pick the Honda pilot. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! 👍