[Solved] Bevel Not Working? Fix it with 3 Easy Tips | Fast & Correct Method | Blender Eevee & Cycles

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  • @5MinutesBlender
    @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @Braveclean
    @Braveclean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    After being frustrated for hours on why the bevel wouldnt work, This particular tutorial worked. The explanation is amazing

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really glad that it helped 😊 Cheers! 💝💝

  • @rimlingerlorenz62
    @rimlingerlorenz62 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're the goat man this bevel was making me crazy and the solution was so simple THX A LOT

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually like to use "Face orientation" setting and using 100% transparent color for the normal faces (in interface preferences) and bright red color for the backfacing faces. That way I can keep using that option all the time and I'll automatically get red highlight at any time the normals are reversed.

  • @RacletteLynx
    @RacletteLynx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    perfection, even after 2 years!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! 😊❤️❤

  • @user-ob2ck4qw4t
    @user-ob2ck4qw4t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for your help, I've been struggling with the last problem for a very long time

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad that it worked, happy to help! 😊💝💝

  • @spaceblox6494
    @spaceblox6494 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thx so much, words cannot express how grateful I am

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are so welcome, I'm glad that it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @GerardMenvussa
    @GerardMenvussa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:43 you can also tick "face orientation", which might be more convenient for this situation

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, thanks for this suggestion 👍

  • @ypietrw
    @ypietrw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i was stuck for so long its embarrassing. thank you for the video!!!!!!

  • @ASleep-er
    @ASleep-er ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now this is a good guide for bevels. Just had some troubles with the bevels and it is now working fine. This is good guide.👍

  • @enosunim
    @enosunim 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You saved my day! This was that normals thing!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @knowledge_hub1
    @knowledge_hub1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of them worked !! Thanks for discussing the cause in depth and giving the perfect solution 👌

  • @funkygentleman7370
    @funkygentleman7370 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are legend. You saved me from giving up on learning Blender

  • @PravdovaSkronov
    @PravdovaSkronov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You save my day, thank you!!!!❤

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to help 😊💝💝

  • @wakurenai482
    @wakurenai482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you so much, That's very helpful for me. Now I understand is the scale problem for my model using bevel tool.

  • @falseshepherd6611
    @falseshepherd6611 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You saved me from complete insanity - thank you!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to know that it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @vahsirht0717
    @vahsirht0717 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this informational video!!! This helped me a lot to complete my project in time.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers! I'm glad that it helped 😊💝💝

  • @vador6011
    @vador6011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much ☺️… After two days of frustrating

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to help 😊💝💝

  • @TechWampus
    @TechWampus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing life-saver video!

  • @TomHaevy
    @TomHaevy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only solution that really worked

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped 😊😊

  • @SourceAwareness
    @SourceAwareness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many Thanks, and wishing you a Great New Year!!

  • @edwin9219
    @edwin9219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    subscribed to your page because this is the second time I needed an answer to something and your page was the one to answer it, clutch thank you

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to know that I could help, twice! 😊💝💝💝

  • @BorisRio
    @BorisRio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally found the solution to my problem, thanks for sharing

  • @ramonsilverio6183
    @ramonsilverio6183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very, very much. you saved my project

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped you 😊💝💝

  • @GingerbreadPanda
    @GingerbreadPanda ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome I was so confused, but this video fixed my issue.

  • @mklolcraft6955
    @mklolcraft6955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you very much

  • @Evander_Ex
    @Evander_Ex หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, I'm a beginner boy and you just saved my life =.=' new sub here ^_^

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm really glad that it helped you! 😊💝💝

  • @lamski3286
    @lamski3286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my problem was fixed within the first 3 mins of the video, thank you!

  • @VictoriaTretiakova
    @VictoriaTretiakova 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big big thanks!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you too! 😊💝💝

  • @janisceplis8744
    @janisceplis8744 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro thank you so much. i literally love you

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad it helped you! 😊💝💝

  • @michaelmckenna2462
    @michaelmckenna2462 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutly Amazing

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! 💝💝 Glad it helped 💝

  • @staruberhater1973
    @staruberhater1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Life saver!

  • @sadralotfollahi
    @sadralotfollahi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your help ❤

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was useful for you 😊💝💝

  • @aryanbalajipathak232
    @aryanbalajipathak232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much, i had 50 extra vertices unnecessarily. this helped me so much

  • @Ahtisham
    @Ahtisham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was the scale problem for me, i had no idea what was causing it,i checked the face orientations but thank GOD found the right video,thanks a lot man

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad that it helped you! Cheers!

    • @Ahtisham
      @Ahtisham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@5MinutesBlender 👍🏻👍🏻😊

  • @GraphicalAnuj
    @GraphicalAnuj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much bro for this video

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @GIANT-JAWS
    @GIANT-JAWS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you so much.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to help! 😊💝💝

  • @Maddy._edits_
    @Maddy._edits_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks

  • @vikramsharma2389
    @vikramsharma2389 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing, thanks

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much 😊💝💝

  • @hills8220
    @hills8220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU HEAPS, just saved 8 hours of work

  • @fs0c1ety
    @fs0c1ety ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks mate, it worked. You earned a subsriber .

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped! Thanks for the sub 💝

  • @anatolian6269
    @anatolian6269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gotta be one of the best videos

  • @Kukatoo
    @Kukatoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so helpful!

  • @mohamadhayatleh4488
    @mohamadhayatleh4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a great tutorial

  • @luckysharma12
    @luckysharma12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank your🙏♥️ my problem the 1st one., thankyou again ✨

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @jone9816
    @jone9816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to flip a bunch of Normals, and it worked XD Thank you so much

  • @red4209
    @red4209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much 😁

  • @indexOFrefraction
    @indexOFrefraction ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are using instances in geometry nodes you need to realize instances or the bevel modifier will not work

  • @r1zz1x
    @r1zz1x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks very much

  • @stevenlitvintchouk3131
    @stevenlitvintchouk3131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You solved my problem with the Bevel modifier! Thank you! (I gave you a small donation)

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad we could help you 😊 Yes, we have received your donation, thank you so much 💝💝💝

  • @chetlamanish9017
    @chetlamanish9017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you brother

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're most welcome! 💝💝

  • @user-jv7eo7zq6p
    @user-jv7eo7zq6p ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much. you are my hero :)

  • @FloetschMaster
    @FloetschMaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THAAAANKS wow this errors got me mad!

  • @simplegarden8711
    @simplegarden8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you brother🤜🤛

  • @Anteprener
    @Anteprener ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u :)

  • @th3_t3rminator
    @th3_t3rminator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i faced the issue and works fine with the first method thank you so much really apricated it.

  • @iqbal0840
    @iqbal0840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the man bro ,

  • @billnoname8093
    @billnoname8093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did all 3 of these before I even came here, still no luck. But I will bookmark the video since it has the most common problems. thanks

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. There may be a different issue in your case, can you please share your blend file so that we can try to identify what could be the cause? Our contact details (Email IDs) are given in the About section of this channel. Thanks!

    • @billnoname8093
      @billnoname8093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@5MinutesBlender thanks, I had cut holes in the object using a boolean modifier, so I think that had a lot to do with it. So I started over and used the bevel modifier on the cube before I started changing the mesh. so this way if anything causes problems with the bevel I would know immediately. Until I get more experience I'll probably make that a habit. Thanks for the help

  • @user-zs4iv3vf5m
    @user-zs4iv3vf5m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very very useful tips for bevel , thank you!

  • @AzureD2
    @AzureD2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks to much for this video :)

  • @Zns_07
    @Zns_07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot! i solved my problem !

  • @SKYYY2222
    @SKYYY2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK U!!!

  • @tomei3
    @tomei3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now everything is clear to me, thanks!

  • @sparkiebarkie14
    @sparkiebarkie14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! You’re the best, that is all

  • @p.p.7844
    @p.p.7844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you ;)

  • @6dangelodacosta9
    @6dangelodacosta9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THE BEST!!!!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much 😊💝💝

  • @ben9441
    @ben9441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not all heroes wear capes. God speed.

  • @AltayebAmer
    @AltayebAmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    appreciate

  • @user-yd6ip6cs3m
    @user-yd6ip6cs3m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U save my nerve. THANKS!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to know that it helped! Cheers 👍

  • @neginjahanfakhr4292
    @neginjahanfakhr4292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So helpful! thanks!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! 😊

  • @CalmDownPanda
    @CalmDownPanda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Great Tutorial !👏Thank you so much !

  • @dotina4267
    @dotina4267 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you save my day 😍😘🥰

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @wmh9783
    @wmh9783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was so helpful!!! thank you !!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you too 😊😊 Glad it was helpful!

  • @MohtashimHassan
    @MohtashimHassan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good

  • @ShebanFPV
    @ShebanFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many many huge thanks! It was sooooo frustrating!

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it useful!

    • @ShebanFPV
      @ShebanFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5MinutesBlender haha ))) I was ready to pull my hair out, it was so frustrating 😅🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @johndilauro4884
    @johndilauro4884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...........finally, thank you........

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped! 😊

    • @johndilauro4884
      @johndilauro4884 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the results, when it worked. but I would just give up. @@5MinutesBlender

  • @pamecv4628
    @pamecv4628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TE AMO, gracias :'D

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @roshanmartin3531
    @roshanmartin3531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, this was really helpful. Thank you :)

  • @JP-zu5gr
    @JP-zu5gr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Derek. I have a problem in 12:10 with the bevel modifier, it is not working correctly. There is showing more connections with other faces and other stuff. Could you say waht is the problem?

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There can be some specific issues with specific models, hard to guess. But if none of the stated methods solves your problem, you can select all in the edit mode and try to do a Limited Dissolve. If still not able to resolve, you can send your blend file as-is to us at 5minblender@gmail.com and we will investigate it. Thanks!

  • @malithraheem3044
    @malithraheem3044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was very helpful

  • @febinjose4597
    @febinjose4597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very helpful

  • @jennies6039
    @jennies6039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for solving this problem. It is so helpful!

  • @kolar9114
    @kolar9114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well explained , keep going

  • @digimikeh
    @digimikeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gold

  • @juno-ik1ik
    @juno-ik1ik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tq so much for solution .... uwu

  • @phucho3837
    @phucho3837 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    omg it worked. Thx alot XDDD

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! 😊💝💝

  • @JoALemusBLoG
    @JoALemusBLoG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fuuuuuuc**** thaaaaaanksssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @COOLACADEMYFORPHYSICSANDMATH
    @COOLACADEMYFORPHYSICSANDMATH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks bro, yesterday i was facing this problem, now i get to know. But one issue also i was facing that i do shade smooth but faces are not getting smooth, they have line of meshes vertical, why is it so.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shade smooth may not give correct result if the geometry of your object is not clean. Incorrect normals, or duplicate vertices can be some of the issues. Please inspect around the area where shade smooth fails. You can go into the edit mode and check what is wrong.

    • @COOLACADEMYFORPHYSICSANDMATH
      @COOLACADEMYFORPHYSICSANDMATH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5MinutesBlender ok, thanks

  • @blood.mirror
    @blood.mirror ปีที่แล้ว

    What computer voice software did you use for this? And which specific voice within that package? Thanks!

  • @isimsizkullanc8411
    @isimsizkullanc8411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    goated video

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much bro! 😊❤️❤️

  • @vladapanchenko5768
    @vladapanchenko5768 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello and thank you for the video.
    I have had a problem with Bevel modifier. This modifier was connecting the vertices that were not connected normally and disconnecting some of the vertices that were making a face together. None of the sollutions you have told were working for this problem, the vertices were correct, normals were also for each face and scaling was not an issue. Then I tried to add bevel with using edit mode menu (also for all the object) and there was no such troubles.
    Do you know what could be a possible reason for this?
    Thank you.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have experienced this too. There is one difference between the Edit tool and the modifier although the underlying functionality is almost the same. The modifier uses a "Limit Method" which determines which edges or which vertices to be included into the bevel (and this may not be always the same as what we intend to do) whereas the same tool in the Edit mode uses an explicit edge selection i.e. it includes only the edges we specifically selected for this operation. I guess this may be a reason why you saw a difference in the results from both of these methods, although I must say that some beveling issues can be too complex to explain, at least in my experience.

  • @ryanpatton1795
    @ryanpatton1795 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just made my object bevel even worse after trying tip 1 and 2. I already had tried tip 3 from prior research. Not sure why a default cylinder would be so jacked up with nothing done to it.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      We covered some common use cases, but an object can have other type of issues that may need some specific handling. We can help you further if we get to see your blend file. Our contact details are given in the About section of this channel. If you can send your blend file, we will look into it and suggest a fix. Thank you!

  • @chriswestphal26
    @chriswestphal26 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eh didnt work. Removed vertices but yet when i try to add bevel to an edge on the object it makes segments but only on one of the faces of the corners, instead of both, keeping it flat.... doesnt make sense

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      There may be some rare cases outside the common errors we have discussed in this tutorial. For each of such cases, the solution may be different. So if you can send your model to us (5minblender@gmail.com) we will be able to investigate the issues and suggest a fix. Thank you!

  • @alicesophiabergamo5634
    @alicesophiabergamo5634 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dio Grazie

  • @rafadlis
    @rafadlis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    live-safer

  • @DominikWysocki-ml2he
    @DominikWysocki-ml2he ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look thank you.....but really do wish Blender stuck to the same blimmin format of bevelling, like all other softwares. It shouldnt be worthy of finding a solution on the internet to do a basic 45 degree bevel.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agreed with you. I don't have enough experience with other modelling software, but I know why Blender struggles with this. Blender uses a polygon-based approach for mesh objects. Instead, if we use a curve-based or a vector-based approach, it becomes a simple task. For example, if you try to bevel any text field (before you convert them into mesh), you'll notice how beautifully and how effortlessly it is done in Blender. In fact, I am thinking of creating an add-on that can make this bevel job easier by shifting the bevel part to a vector-based algorithm.

    • @DominikWysocki-ml2he
      @DominikWysocki-ml2he ปีที่แล้ว

      @@5MinutesBlender
      Oh my goodness. That would be so awesome! if you could. Thanks for the reply, have a great weekend.

    • @DominikWysocki-ml2he
      @DominikWysocki-ml2he ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@5MinutesBlender
      One more thing that sticks in my ass is Blender's really crappy UV layout system. It's really bad. They dont even have a 'relax' function, which splays out the entire mesh like Maya does it. I've got a really complex shape to do a spiral column, and no matter which function I press, it's impossible to have the UV grid to be squarish. So I have to map out section by section using the (project from view) patch it up like a jigsaw puzzle. So annoying. You'd think the function of using the (mark seam) then unwrap would work, but it just doesnt.
      With Maya, you could select the whole thing, and press relax, and it would splay it out in a second! It'll take me about 2 hours to do a basic job. Argh. The pain.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DominikWysocki-ml2he I can understand bro 🙂

  • @Noodleydoo
    @Noodleydoo ปีที่แล้ว

    So infuriating. I open the mesh dialogue box and there is no merge function listed.

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, that's surprising. May I know which version of Blender are you using? And can you also send me a screenshot so that I can check? Our contact details are given in the About section of this channel. Thanks!

  • @Monke227-
    @Monke227- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    none of these were my problem (wtf is up with my model???)

    • @5MinutesBlender
      @5MinutesBlender  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes it may be really difficult to get the bevel effect corrected due to the underlying geometry (or better to say, every geometry has a threshold up to which a bevel will work and beyond which the bevel will break). There are some advanced mesh editing that can help in some cases apart from the common techniques we discussed here, but there are always some 5-10% cases that are impossible to solve without remodeling 🙁

  • @Leosolorpanel
    @Leosolorpanel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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