Citizen also has a promaster tough ecodrive in full titanium and 300m water resistance, with arabic numerals - BN0118-55E, often referred to as the Ray Mears. Can be found from UK citizen ADs. I think its really slept on in the states.
I have two Citizen Eco Drive Stiletto watches. One has been my daily for over 15 years. Eco Drive watches are powered by light, be it sun, LED, flourescent, incandescent, halogen, etc. Solar powered indicates sun powered.
I have the stainless Garrison same setup with a couple differences: mine has 24hr numbers that are smaller and set center to the 12 hour numbers and I have integrated polished crown guards. Eco drive and Sapphire Crystal. I love this watch so much I gave all my other watches to my son( including my citizen dive watch I had during Gulf War.). Citizen in my opinion is the best watch made for the money.
Love me a Citizen Watch.. I've owned loads over the years. For the price they can't be beat.. Tough titanium, amazing build quality, amazing QC and Eco drive..
I have the tough. Got it for $175 at Kaye Jewelers as a year end close out. Heavy solid well built eco drive watch that it very accurate. It’s made to last a long time.
I stumbled on this review and I had to chuckle, because I have both of these watches, as well as half a dozen other Eco-drives. Anywayz, as similar as these watches are, they are also very different. I find the the aptly name Tough to be just that. A bit more chunky and rugged. The Garrison is more sleek; it's so lite you forget you have it on; people unfamiliar with titanium watches and titanium bracelets may not like it, because the lightness of the bracelet makes it feel cheaper than it is. I like both watches, but the Garrison has a special quality in that the lightness makes it a good choice for situations (like mountain biking) where you are exposed to a lot of vibration and shock. It just doesn't bounce around as much as a heavier watch and can be worn looser as a result. Side note: my Garrison is the white dial version that I bought thinking (hoping) it was full lume (it's not), but it also has light markers so the contrast isn't as good. If I was gonna buy one again I'd go with the black, blue or green dial.
I love my Garrison super titanium. Great watch! I own an eco drive paradigm that’s 22 years old and has never been serviced or had the capacitor changed. I’ve beaten it up as well. You gotta love the eco-drive.
Super titanium is 5x more durable than a regular alloy... yeah, the Pagani PG1717 watch looks better after over a month of people doing everything with it, carrying wood, chasing the dog, driving a wheelbarrow, cleaning the garden and many other things - it is less scratched, than the "super titanium" Citizen watch I took out today, and I'll add that I didn't do anything to it - I wore it at home, scratches are visible just by looking at it... I have a Citizen Titanium Eco-Drive BM8560-88E watch. In itself it's ok, but these abrasions on the clasp are a disaster, they literally showed up straight away...
I have a super titanium as well and it took nothing for it to scuff, first day out it looks like I've been wearing it for months! Thinking they changed something to save money, it's super light weight and the movement is accurate which I love, but man is the finish ever terrible!
The Garrison is like a little brother of the BN0018. I like the Garrison even more because it is available in all continets and the price is good. Only thing that I miss about it is the radio controlled movement.
I picked up my citizen tough for a bargain £150 and its fantastic a do anything watch for me. Had it a few years and only main scratches are on the clasp. The duratect really does its job. My fave watch, looks great on a nato as well so very versatile
I have a steel monocoque promaster that from 1990. Has a very similar face to the Garrison. Been my daily watch for around 12 years. Has worn-in character...To my knowledge it's never had its capacitor replaced... Still keeping solid time.. (has a knurled screw-down crown too). The only minus is that the lume has faded (it has been over 30 years...). Bomb proof tool watch!!
On the Garrison, I disagree about the crown. It has been an issue for me. It pops out easily, espexially.when taking off a jacket or long sleeve shirt. It actually broke off once and I had to have the crown replaced.
I agree, screw down Crowns should be threaded. It just adds to overall love of the watch for me. Now, that won't keep me from buying, but I'm just saying!
Right??? I can't believe that wasn't noticed right away from the Citizen design team. But... now that I think about it, their design team thought it was a good idea to have a non-rotating dive bezel on the Tough Chronograph so they're probably not the brightest designers in the world lol.
Nice finish! Actually been looking around for Citizen and Seiko for my first titanium watch. For the $$$ maybe Citizen has the edge with that durable case coating and sapphire.
That's a big part of the fun for me is simply looking , researching, hunting down one I may never find (Citizen AT2340-56L) and stumbling on nice unexpected watches. Trying to limit myself to max one watch every quarter haha
Hey man! I have an Asia only release version of the Citizen Promaster Calibre 2100 Titanium Sapphire "panda" grey face chronograph with the deep etched case back. I am going to sell it because even though its like 12 years old, it's immaculate and NOBODY has these, and it's too nice for a guy like me. All the reviews on YT are the ones with the non-heavy etched case back. I just bought a Garrison and that's about more my style for hiking and outdoor life. I seriously have called Citizen USA with the serial # and they can't figure out which exact model it is.... its like AV0021-5??..... not AV0021-52H.... that's the one with the non-deep etched back. Citizen just released a reboot of that watch in stainless and it retails for $950..... I have the original all titanium version that apparently it ultra rare..... Ebay soon... but I will make a video to show it. Thanks for the vid!!
Garrison is really great.....almost perfect.....just some crown guards (or maybe not) and a drilled lugs, that's it. (and some good quality elastic strap for me....but that's only my personal preference) very good video Simucom Like
Off topic, DK....how do you feel about Grand Seiko??? I know your love for Seiko, and Citizen.....Japanese horology,in general, but I don't think, I've ever heard your thoughts on, IMHO, "The King." I do remember you having the "GS homage," by San Martin, but to my recollection, that's the only time, I can remember you making mention of the brand. Great review, BTW. My reasoning behind asking, is two-folded. I've often wondered, your opinion of their designs, but in lieu of the topic, my pick as the "1-watch collection" would be the SLGH-005 a.k.a., the "White Birch." In my eyes, there has never been, a more perfect watch. I literally feel that I could buy that one piece, and be done. Never own, or wear, another watch, the rest of my life, and be completely content. One of the ways that I've really connected w/ Aragon so much, as a brand, is that I see a lot of "Japanese horology" symbolism, throughout Wings' designs. Just curious, as to your thoughts
I think they're great (but that doesn't mean much from me as I've never held one in person). No reason why I've never bought one other than they're not cheap and I can only afford one luxury brand at a time. The reason why I picked Tudor over any other "entry level" luxury brand is specifically because of the Holy Trinity of Steel (i.e. Steel Black Bay, Steel Chronograph, and Steel P01); the rugged and WWII era factory manufactured feel I got from them was irresistible. Grand Seiko watches on the other hand seem to be much more refined, bordering on art, thus not something that resonated with me... yet.
@@degenerateWA I see your point, and completely understand your "dilemma." I truly don't think that for under$4,000, that there's a better value proposition, than Tudor. They punch far above their weight-class.....if that makes sense??? Now that you mention it, and knowing your general taste in watches, and the characteristics that you find appealing in them.....I don't think there was a different choice for you, that would've made more sense. As you know, Tudor is all about, a modern take, of their own heritage. The classic "tool aesthetic. Grand Seiko, it can be argued, may be "the," best value, in the luxury market segment, period. At least, in terms of finishing. In fact, their official slogan is, "Timepieces that are made by hand, for those who value perfection." I feel that kind of says it all. It took me awhile to really get into them, but now that I have, I'm really in awe of a lot of their pieces. Particularly, some of the pieces from their "heritage collection," like the "White Birch."
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***How could I forget to mention water resistance???😱😂***
100 meters for the Garrison and 200 meters for the Tough
I have a few Citizens. Never been disappointed. They are restrained in their design but that kind of makes them timeless. Both seem excellent!
I agree completely 🤘
I like that clean cut look of the Garrison. That would be an everyday piece for me.
I feel you. From duty to dinner🤘
Citizen also has a promaster tough ecodrive in full titanium and 300m water resistance, with arabic numerals - BN0118-55E, often referred to as the Ray Mears. Can be found from UK citizen ADs. I think its really slept on in the states.
That is a beautiful watch. I don't know if I should thank you or curse you for introducing it to me lol
Now I just need citizen to figure out a way to blend eco drive and bulova’s precisionist movement.
I have two Citizen Eco Drive Stiletto watches. One has been my daily for over 15 years. Eco Drive watches are powered by light, be it sun, LED, flourescent, incandescent, halogen, etc. Solar powered indicates sun powered.
I have the stainless Garrison same setup with a couple differences: mine has 24hr numbers that are smaller and set center to the 12 hour numbers and I have integrated polished crown guards. Eco drive and Sapphire Crystal. I love this watch so much I gave all my other watches to my son( including my citizen dive watch I had during Gulf War.). Citizen in my opinion is the best watch made for the money.
Love me a Citizen Watch.. I've owned loads over the years. For the price they can't be beat.. Tough titanium, amazing build quality, amazing QC and Eco drive..
Exactly. The Promaster line has set the standard for me in this price range.
Wearing my Tough right now. Such a badass watch.
It really is. Very easy to wear every day🤘
I have the tough. Got it for $175 at Kaye Jewelers as a year end close out. Heavy solid well built eco drive watch that it very accurate. It’s made to last a long time.
For me the garisson wins, nicer looking dial
I stumbled on this review and I had to chuckle, because I have both of these watches, as well as half a dozen other Eco-drives.
Anywayz, as similar as these watches are, they are also very different. I find the the aptly name Tough to be just that. A bit more chunky and rugged. The Garrison is more sleek; it's so lite you forget you have it on; people unfamiliar with titanium watches and titanium bracelets may not like it, because the lightness of the bracelet makes it feel cheaper than it is. I like both watches, but the Garrison has a special quality in that the lightness makes it a good choice for situations (like mountain biking) where you are exposed to a lot of vibration and shock. It just doesn't bounce around as much as a heavier watch and can be worn looser as a result.
Side note: my Garrison is the white dial version that I bought thinking (hoping) it was full lume (it's not), but it also has light markers so the contrast isn't as good. If I was gonna buy one again I'd go with the black, blue or green dial.
Great insight. Citizen Eco-Drives in any flavor have been outstanding in my experience. Love every single one of them.
I love my Garrison super titanium. Great watch! I own an eco drive paradigm that’s 22 years old and has never been serviced or had the capacitor changed. I’ve beaten it up as well. You gotta love the eco-drive.
Facts. They are indestructible🍻
Super titanium is 5x more durable than a regular alloy... yeah, the Pagani PG1717 watch looks better after over a month of people doing everything with it, carrying wood, chasing the dog, driving a wheelbarrow, cleaning the garden and many other things - it is less scratched, than the "super titanium" Citizen watch I took out today, and I'll add that I didn't do anything to it - I wore it at home, scratches are visible just by looking at it... I have a Citizen Titanium Eco-Drive BM8560-88E watch. In itself it's ok, but these abrasions on the clasp are a disaster, they literally showed up straight away...
I have a super titanium as well and it took nothing for it to scuff, first day out it looks like I've been wearing it for months! Thinking they changed something to save money, it's super light weight and the movement is accurate which I love, but man is the finish ever terrible!
The Garrison is like a little brother of the BN0018. I like the Garrison even more because it is available in all continets and the price is good. Only thing that I miss about it is the radio controlled movement.
Atomic time is always a plus.
I picked up my citizen tough for a bargain £150 and its fantastic a do anything watch for me. Had it a few years and only main scratches are on the clasp. The duratect really does its job. My fave watch, looks great on a nato as well so very versatile
Awesome. Such a great watch.
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You know porn music then...
I have a steel monocoque promaster that from 1990. Has a very similar face to the Garrison. Been my daily watch for around 12 years. Has worn-in character...To my knowledge it's never had its capacitor replaced... Still keeping solid time.. (has a knurled screw-down crown too). The only minus is that the lume has faded (it has been over 30 years...). Bomb proof tool watch!!
Very cool. These watches are more than enough for anyone.
Here with my recent purchase the Citizen garrison chronograph in blue with yellow accents! Nice watch ! Citizen did it again 😎
It’s the constant search and hunt for the perfect watch that we love
Facts💯
On the Garrison, I disagree about the crown. It has been an issue for me. It pops out easily, espexially.when taking off a jacket or long sleeve shirt. It actually broke off once and I had to have the crown replaced.
I agree, screw down Crowns should be threaded. It just adds to overall love of the watch for me. Now, that won't keep me from buying, but I'm just saying!
If given the option, I don't think anyone in the history of ever would ever choose a non-screw down crown.
The bracelet is perfect for the tough. It makes it look the part.
Right??? I can't believe that wasn't noticed right away from the Citizen design team. But... now that I think about it, their design team thought it was a good idea to have a non-rotating dive bezel on the Tough Chronograph so they're probably not the brightest designers in the world lol.
The shots under different kinds of light are really useful
Awesome, thanks for the positive feedback.
the garrison needs a crown guard...all my watches need crown guards. my watches take a beating
gotta stick with what works for you.
Also the Citizen BN0118-55E
Citizen has so many great "one watch collection" watches.
Nice finish! Actually been looking around for Citizen and Seiko for my first titanium watch. For the $$$ maybe Citizen has the edge with that durable case coating and sapphire.
Seiko watches are great too. So many fantastic options out there🤘
That's a big part of the fun for me is simply looking , researching, hunting down one I may never find (Citizen
AT2340-56L) and stumbling on nice unexpected watches. Trying to limit myself to max one watch every quarter haha
Just picked up the tough on eBay thanks again for the review man
excellent, great pick👍
Hey man! I have an Asia only release version of the Citizen Promaster Calibre 2100 Titanium Sapphire "panda" grey face chronograph with the deep etched case back. I am going to sell it because even though its like 12 years old, it's immaculate and NOBODY has these, and it's too nice for a guy like me. All the reviews on YT are the ones with the non-heavy etched case back. I just bought a Garrison and that's about more my style for hiking and outdoor life. I seriously have called Citizen USA with the serial # and they can't figure out which exact model it is.... its like AV0021-5??..... not AV0021-52H.... that's the one with the non-deep etched back. Citizen just released a reboot of that watch in stainless and it retails for $950..... I have the original all titanium version that apparently it ultra rare..... Ebay soon... but I will make a video to show it. Thanks for the vid!!
Nice, I'm curious to see what it looks like👍
The Tough is a cool piece, but in comparison (VS) the Garrison outshines the Tough. I know, I know, it's not a versus review 🤣
Oooooh we're gonna have to agree to disagree there. But at least we'll never argue on who gets to wear what🤘
I have bid on the Garrison before, but didn't win , unfortunately. It's definitely still on my to get list. ( it's my cup of tea)
I believe it. I think you and I share a lot of similar interests in watches
@@degenerateWA absolutely 💯
I have one Citizen eco drive black panther ed😁 luv the piece 🔥🖤
Citizen watches stay being solid AF🤘
Can someone please be more specific and write the 2 model numbers?
I spell it out for you in the description
is there one with numbers and 24 hour markers and daydate with a sapphire crystal?
I don't believe there is one with 24 hour markers, but I'm not sure.
No 24 hour markers, but have a look at the PMD56-2952 !
What do you mean bro? The PRO DIVER is the ideal and most perfect watch 🗣 EVER👁👁
And I know that you're not biased at all😁
Garrison is really great.....almost perfect.....just some crown guards (or maybe not) and a drilled lugs, that's it. (and some good quality elastic strap for me....but that's only my personal preference)
very good video Simucom
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Drilled lugs and crown guards are always welcome🤘
I prefer the tough chronograph version better! The three hander while nice specs looks a little boring...
For me, boring is good for daily watches, but the Tough Chrono is a great watch too.
Chronographs are boring, and completely useless - who even uses them??
Off topic, DK....how do you feel about Grand Seiko??? I know your love for Seiko, and Citizen.....Japanese horology,in general, but I don't think, I've ever heard your thoughts on, IMHO, "The King." I do remember you having the "GS homage," by San Martin, but to my recollection, that's the only time, I can remember you making mention of the brand. Great review, BTW. My reasoning behind asking, is two-folded. I've often wondered, your opinion of their designs, but in lieu of the topic, my pick as the "1-watch collection" would be the SLGH-005 a.k.a., the "White Birch." In my eyes, there has never been, a more perfect watch. I literally feel that I could buy that one piece, and be done. Never own, or wear, another watch, the rest of my life, and be completely content. One of the ways that I've really connected w/ Aragon so much, as a brand, is that I see a lot of "Japanese horology" symbolism, throughout Wings' designs. Just curious, as to your thoughts
I think they're great (but that doesn't mean much from me as I've never held one in person). No reason why I've never bought one other than they're not cheap and I can only afford one luxury brand at a time. The reason why I picked Tudor over any other "entry level" luxury brand is specifically because of the Holy Trinity of Steel (i.e. Steel Black Bay, Steel Chronograph, and Steel P01); the rugged and WWII era factory manufactured feel I got from them was irresistible. Grand Seiko watches on the other hand seem to be much more refined, bordering on art, thus not something that resonated with me... yet.
@@degenerateWA I see your point, and completely understand your "dilemma." I truly don't think that for under$4,000, that there's a better value proposition, than Tudor. They punch far above their weight-class.....if that makes sense??? Now that you mention it, and knowing your general taste in watches, and the characteristics that you find appealing in them.....I don't think there was a different choice for you, that would've made more sense. As you know, Tudor is all about, a modern take, of their own heritage. The classic "tool aesthetic. Grand Seiko, it can be argued, may be "the," best value, in the luxury market segment, period. At least, in terms of finishing. In fact, their official slogan is, "Timepieces that are made by hand, for those who value perfection." I feel that kind of says it all. It took me awhile to really get into them, but now that I have, I'm really in awe of a lot of their pieces. Particularly, some of the pieces from their "heritage collection," like the "White Birch."
I have the tough...after a month os wearing it daily I went ahead and deleted my watch wishlist on amazon.
I dont blame you, great pickup!
You just created a panic😱 Classic grade A enabling 🤣
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From you. I was talking about you.
You'd definitely notice 100g weight difference
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Hell yeah brotha🤘
The Garrison is just a worse version of the Citizen Ray Mears (IMO).
funny you bring that up because I just ordered a Ray Mears Citizen (to be exact, I ordered the BN0241-59H, but pretty much the same thing)
theres only one "one watch" its the casio lcw
it's a good watch