NO OTHER guru/baba contemporary or past holds the place K holds in my heart. there's not a shred of pretence in him, not a shred of wanting to be validated or to validate, not a shred of being "important". i feel him in my heart.
I feel the same way watching him and listening to him through these videos. It's fascinating to see what potential a human being has when he is free from identification. Pure awareness and joy.
One of his books,"the awakening of Intelligence", saved me a lot of troubles as a youngster and started a life long companionship with the great yet simple Krishnamurti.
It's extremely cute of you to showcase the stories that Krishna ji narrated which were very few as most of the listener relate better with story telling. 🌷😌
At the end he says " He goes into the question of time,self and the ending of self". There lies the cause for him to narrate the story. Upanishads are of Vedic times and very ancient. But the quest for a human being to know oneself is timeless.JK has been continuously hinting on that quest in his own inimitable way in our own times.
He has given us wordless meanings to everything. when He is speaking, I really am touched in any Form ..He has the gift of making people feel that He is a very near relative.
this is from the ultimate Upanishad the kathopanishad the question answer between the loard of death yama and nachiketa the boy. i am big supporter for this upnishad from depth of my hearth.
Once I completely understood what how he see the truth, i cant understand any other spiritual teacher etc. this one alone is enough to represent the whole
Nachiketa ji my inspiration to find out what is going on and why. Listened first in 2008 when I was in 8th standard. Nachiketa ji questions always inspired me to ask n ask to know. Seeking of knowing.
@@EnSabahNur-ir5mw But we are attached psychologically to everything we possess: our house, our car, our books, etc., so it's not so granted to separate phisical things from psychological accumulation, and the story is about giving away all one's possession. K. said "do it!" The significance of death, of dying every day, is just to be nothing and so to have nothing, just like him.
Of course it’s tough, but that is because we are still seeing things from the point of view of the ego. You can’t let go your possessions as far as you are still caught in the illusion of the me. If you do it just because you heard it from K. it will create a conflict in you. It’s not that you get rid of the ego giving away your possessions, this is the traditional approach, it’s just the other way round: you will let them go the moment you have seen the inconsistency of the ego and the futility of being attached to things.
This Upanishad is the Kathopanishad (= Katha + Upanishad). The story mentions the father (Vaajashravas) tells the son (Nachiketas) in anger "I will give you away to death". In reality there is no anger here because it is only the plain truth that when you gave birth to your child, you have written her death sentence by her simple fact of taking birth. Anything that is born will die and only that which is born can die. The most evocative imagery of Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna and Krishna in the chariot has basis on a verse from Kathopanishad. It says - the objects of the stimulus is the world, the chariot is your body, the horses are sense organs, the reins are the perceptive mind, the chariot driver is the cognitive intellect, and the chariot owner is the atma / witness / consciousness. The horses or senses tend to wander in all directions but are controlled by the chariot driver the discerning intellect by means of the reins the perceiving mind. This is a highly comprehensive view of the process of karma or action in Hindu thought. If you look at one of the theories of stimulus - motor response in modern psychology, it follows an exact identical path. It says the stimuli is received by the sense organs, processed for perception by mind, processed for cognition by intellect for giving meaning to the message and required action required and orders motor response. What is missing here from the Upanishad view is the chariot owner. The modern view does not have a view on for whom the drama plays out. Upanishad presents a witness in the atma, which is not only the witness, but the illuminer of the drama.
@@pablocosentino2126 The chariot owner cannot disappear. But, eventually, he can "disappear" from this realm to another one. It all depends on the level of his awareness during his lifetime.
Life is Eternal death is absent but each event of our lives ends but life goes on so there is death and birth every second the boy Understood that life and death is an eternal
This story is from Katha upanishad between Yamraj and a boy called Nachiketa. Krishanmurti talks are from Vedanta & Upanishads, but he delivered the talks in his own unique way 😇
K exposed the ‘guru’ industry beyond question, therefore ‘gurus’ have tried desperately to discredit him ever since, completely misrepresenting him in the process, they make a very nice living from their adoring followers and will attack anyone who shines a light on this
Actually , for me , whatever JK is speaking right now is also an Upanishad.😁 Because Upanishads are nothing but words of enlightened people. Be it Buddha , Mahaveer , or JK. Enlightened people don't go into past stuff. They speak out something very original. They don't believe whatever they read , as we do. They experience it for themselves.
haha, great punchline- "That is the story. Sorry it peters out." You don't even know it's a joke until the end. Really old guys pull those jokes off the best.
Most people did not comment on it as a joke because they know the story does not peter out there. I guess they have read the upanishad mentioned here (Kathopanishad) and know the story.
When K said that it is story, but the point was finally it is not a story but the truth when he says that you all want escape from yourself. That is tongue in cheek statement with deep meaning. If you read this, it is actually Yama tries to give him all the diversions like money, fame, property, family etc, he does not budge and only wants truth about self and nothing else. Finally, Yama gives up and gives him 3 boons. And then ultimate truth is revealed.
If we really understand that ultimately the direction is moving towards death, then why all this effort to let go of everything when it will happen by itself?
Moral of the story is don't be harsh to your self or other to get all the material which you might be seeking, palace, woman, money ultimately in the end you are going to him 🤣so be kind don't be selfish, do right thing in life
Nobody in the end asks what is Truth or what is death? Except to be mesmerized by logic Jiddu gives about Upanishads or Upanishads themselves give... First Guru says, there is no Death and after many lives u reach HIGHEST PRINCIPLE and Ego is ok with that answer... 2nd Guru says, there is nothing after Death. Only annihilation (or Nihilism according to western philosophers like Nietzsche etc) which we equated to Salvation and the Ego is ok with that answer too... When Death (Yama) himself says I will give u a boon - women, palaces or anything u want i will give u all those, then the boy says whatever material i may have, still in the end i have to meet u (Death). And Death was impressed by the purer seeking of Truth without material seeking... But it doesnt say what is Truth or how to seek it and whats the work to do after final birth in body is taken or after Truth is understood...(Except only a hint given in BHAGAWADGEETA what one has to do then and how many in a Million achieve it)
Death is of the body, mind, the self, soul whatever one may call it, it's immortal. The boy himself has already destroyed the mind, which craves for the possessions and the ego. So death is absent. He became immortal. Never born , Never died.
Immagine the universe life as a very very loooong line. Now imagine a tiny dot on that line: that's the human life. So the truth is: compared to the universe life, human life is absent, not death! Our life is just a little dream in the cosmic nothingness and meaningfulness😎 But don't be upset or disappointed by that: just feel liberated from any delusional expectations instead 🌗
Vivek, In the story death is a third person who was not present when the brahmins child reaches at its place. Also when the death is absent you may have possession of various things, love, wealth. When you meet death you have to give away all the possessions.
@@vivekkadari8445 you cannot capture it through mind, which is simply thoughts and the memory, the past. It's beyond mind, so when the mind is destroyed, there is nothingness, timelessness, bodylessness. Time, body, all are the creation of mind. When the mind get destroyed, then there is innocence, emptiness love. You are free from all bondages which are the seeds of misery. Your nature is just happiness, bliss. Don't worry if you didn't capture it. Stay silent, enquire and it will come to you without any effort. If you try to capture it , it will not. What I'm trying to convey is that the inner journey is not an intellectual one, rather it's an innocent one, graceful one. Any sort of intellectual understanding will not get you reach to the higher realms. So be silent and watch yourself, enquire. Thank you.
Krishnamurti had only one mental disorder that he did not have much respect for Indian philosophy or any other philosophy other than himself, he felt that my observation and investigation is right and appropriate and only I have the power to think unconditionally, and this one bias made him from extraordinary to ordinary. ( I'm fond of Krishnamurti and I'm very deeply follow his teachings, but I came to know this one thing by his teaching method of observation)
Who is judging ? The opinion and judgement are the yardstick , that's the I , the ego. Listen and observe without the yardstick , then there is pure observation , then see what happens.
You've just stated how the Mind works. An Order within the Mind means blindly following ideas without understanding them, and this is when a Mind is trully out of balance. And this is a very dangerous state to be in. 🙏
You see sir,he didn't think that only he can think unconditionally. He had companions like david bohm and other scientists with whom he explored every thing as it is.he inquired everything with an unbiased mind or with an objective point of view. He didn't have any philosophy of his own, he was very simple and Egoless human being
I feel JK is a direct observer and original thinker. He is not a Philospher and put the things of life as it is without any shade of conditioning or distortion. He is just like Rishis and Munis and words coming from his mouth is like Upsnishad and Vedas in a timeless movement.
NO OTHER guru/baba contemporary or past holds the place K holds in my heart. there's not a shred of pretence in him, not a shred of wanting to be validated or to validate, not a shred of being "important". i feel him in my heart.
yes
I feel the same way watching him and listening to him through these videos. It's fascinating to see what potential a human being has when he is free from identification. Pure awareness and joy.
Same here dear
Then it's over sir if that is the case... Because he has warned not for one to form an image out of all this
@@Fibonachi. aiyooo daiii
"Anything to divert us, move away from ourselves"
One of his books,"the awakening of Intelligence", saved me a lot of troubles as a youngster and started a life long companionship with the great yet simple Krishnamurti.
'Anything to divert us, move away from ourselves!' People love stories!
It's extremely cute of you to showcase the stories that Krishna ji narrated which were very few as most of the listener relate better with story telling. 🌷😌
True principles of love/ life should not be put in the story.. there are too many variations of the points
Very rare .. he uses stories...........Pure Intellect
Thanks
Thank you for your support
you healed me jiddu
You healed yourself ☺
Right 😂and I was looking at religion the whole time to be good it's only relative truth!!!!@
how
Huge Respect to this Marvelous man.
At the end he says " He goes into the question of time,self and the ending of self". There lies the cause for him to narrate the story. Upanishads are of Vedic times and very ancient. But the quest for a human being to know oneself is timeless.JK has been continuously hinting on that quest in his own inimitable way in our own times.
Love you K sir.❤ Thank you for everything 🙏
He has given us wordless meanings to everything. when He is speaking, I really am touched in any Form ..He has the gift of making people feel that He is a very near relative.
Thank you sir 🙏for the spiritual guidance. Thank you for the short videos and the words appearing below.
Nachiketa!!!
Nachiketa became so ridiculous !! All are enjoying . I understood this much ..
Gratitude! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
this is from the ultimate Upanishad the kathopanishad the question answer between the loard of death yama and nachiketa the boy. i am big supporter for this upnishad from depth of my hearth.
Once I completely understood what how he see the truth, i cant understand any other spiritual teacher etc.
this one alone is enough to represent the whole
Nachiketa ji my inspiration to find out what is going on and why. Listened first in 2008 when I was in 8th standard. Nachiketa ji questions always inspired me to ask n ask to know. Seeking of knowing.
If we can't give our things a way; then we should give it away...
One of the most worthy videos on internet....❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you.❤
That's Powerful!
"can I give away anything that I hold dear?" That is a taff one 😔
@@EnSabahNur-ir5mw But we are attached psychologically to everything we possess: our house, our car, our books, etc., so it's not so granted to separate phisical things from psychological accumulation, and the story is about giving away all one's possession. K. said "do it!" The significance of death, of dying every day, is just to be nothing and so to have nothing, just like him.
Of course it’s tough, but that is because we are still seeing things from the point of view of the ego. You can’t let go your possessions as far as you are still caught in the illusion of the me. If you do it just because you heard it from K. it will create a conflict in you. It’s not that you get rid of the ego giving away your possessions, this is the traditional approach, it’s just the other way round: you will let them go the moment you have seen the inconsistency of the ego and the futility of being attached to things.
Beautiful.. Thank you 🙏❤️🌹
Thanks JK
3rd train shows how aware he is at the moment
The story is from katopanishad.the boy was Nachiketa and his father offered him to the god of death,Yama,in Hindu mythology.
Hindu mythology is actual our real ancient history
@@Rajat-qo7otsome of is real , some of imaginary and some of is mixed
@@dipakparmar119rishish says if magical stories helps you then we will tell u those
@@Rajat-qo7othindu word is given by muslim😂 , and we have no evidence of vedik religion 😉
It's all buddhist
@@CalmPug-ez4zxno Rishi found in archeology 😂
WOW! Thank you 🧡
Love the speaker
How many beings got the truth by implementing his words...
Death of dear one really heartbreaking
Living Upanishad JK✨
this is the story from natho upnishada between yama the lord of death and Nachiketa the brahmin boy!
"I have not read it" - thats important to say!
This Upanishad is the Kathopanishad (= Katha + Upanishad). The story mentions the father (Vaajashravas) tells the son (Nachiketas) in anger "I will give you away to death".
In reality there is no anger here because it is only the plain truth that when you gave birth to your child, you have written her death sentence by her simple fact of taking birth. Anything that is born will die and only that which is born can die.
The most evocative imagery of Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna and Krishna in the chariot has basis on a verse from Kathopanishad.
It says - the objects of the stimulus is the world, the chariot is your body, the horses are sense organs, the reins are the perceptive mind, the chariot driver is the cognitive intellect, and the chariot owner is the atma / witness / consciousness. The horses or senses tend to wander in all directions but are controlled by the chariot driver the discerning intellect by means of the reins the perceiving mind. This is a highly comprehensive view of the process of karma or action in Hindu thought.
If you look at one of the theories of stimulus - motor response in modern psychology, it follows an exact identical path. It says the stimuli is received by the sense organs, processed for perception by mind, processed for cognition by intellect for giving meaning to the message and required action required and orders motor response. What is missing here from the Upanishad view is the chariot owner. The modern view does not have a view on for whom the drama plays out. Upanishad presents a witness in the atma, which is not only the witness, but the illuminer of the drama.
So what happens after death ? The chariot owner disappear or buy a new chariot ?
@@pablocosentino2126 The chariot owner cannot disappear. But, eventually, he can "disappear" from this realm to another one.
It all depends on the level of his awareness during his lifetime.
Thank you 🙌
You understand ...Do it....Not able to do my lord...
The boy named Nachiketa and the Upanishad name s Katho Upanishad.
i have so many questions to ask such human kind like you
Just ask them. You may be surprised to find that answers come to you anyway, even if "the speaker', as K used to say, is not here with us.
I'm interested in knowing some of your questions, if you wouldn't mind me asking?
correct death is only the fear of losing ones Possessions life and death are happening all the time
Life is Eternal death is absent but each event of our lives ends but life goes on so there is death and birth every second the boy Understood that life and death is an eternal
an Eternal Movement
Choiceless Awareness and its own timelessness
This story is from Katha upanishad between Yamraj and a boy called Nachiketa. Krishanmurti talks are from Vedanta & Upanishads, but he delivered the talks in his own unique way 😇
Thank you for telling the character's name. I really wanted to read about them.🙏Thank you
Blessed ppl witnessed him live...🙏🙏🙏
Kathopnishad-Nachiketa ❤❤
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
🙏🙏🙏
K exposed the ‘guru’ industry beyond question, therefore ‘gurus’ have tried desperately to discredit him ever since, completely misrepresenting him in the process, they make a very nice living from their adoring followers and will attack anyone who shines a light on this
K...... ❤️
Kath upanishad😊❤
At last he talks about Upanishads
Hear his talks with Swami Venkatesh. He even recite them.
Come out of that upanishad things....
@@ngawangjigmedh bro u must know the history of krishnamurti ji. He learned each n every spiritual books then he got that knowledge from.
Actually , for me , whatever JK is speaking right now is also an Upanishad.😁 Because Upanishads are nothing but words of enlightened people. Be it Buddha , Mahaveer , or JK. Enlightened people don't go into past stuff. They speak out something very original. They don't believe whatever they read , as we do. They experience it for themselves.
Love from pakistan...❤
This is the story of Nachiketa from the Kathopanishad.
haha, great punchline- "That is the story. Sorry it peters out." You don't even know it's a joke until the end. Really old guys pull those jokes off the best.
Most people did not comment on it as a joke because they know the story does not peter out there. I guess they have read the upanishad mentioned here (Kathopanishad) and know the story.
When K said that it is story, but the point was finally it is not a story but the truth when he says that you all want escape from yourself. That is tongue in cheek statement with deep meaning. If you read this, it is actually Yama tries to give him all the diversions like money, fame, property, family etc, he does not budge and only wants truth about self and nothing else. Finally, Yama gives up and gives him 3 boons. And then ultimate truth is revealed.
Can we give away everything that we hold dear NOW that death is going to take away from us anyway
Story of Nachiketa and Yamraj
What he is pointing out by this story??
If we really understand that ultimately the direction is moving towards death, then why all this effort to let go of everything when it will happen by itself?
Moral of the story is don't be harsh to your self or other to get all the material which you might be seeking, palace, woman, money ultimately in the end you are going to him 🤣so be kind don't be selfish, do right thing in life
Nobody in the end asks what is Truth or what is death? Except to be mesmerized by logic Jiddu gives about Upanishads or Upanishads themselves give...
First Guru says, there is no Death and after many lives u reach HIGHEST PRINCIPLE and Ego is ok with that answer... 2nd Guru says, there is nothing after Death. Only annihilation (or Nihilism according to western philosophers like Nietzsche etc) which we equated to Salvation and the Ego is ok with that answer too... When Death (Yama) himself says I will give u a boon - women, palaces or anything u want i will give u all those, then the boy says whatever material i may have, still in the end i have to meet u (Death). And Death was impressed by the purer seeking of Truth without material seeking... But it doesnt say what is Truth or how to seek it and whats the work to do after final birth in body is taken or after Truth is understood...(Except only a hint given in BHAGAWADGEETA what one has to do then and how many in a Million achieve it)
Why is it incomplete. Pl upload the full talk
Please see video description.
It's complete. He left there for you to understand and they you have let go the ego the thing that you hold dear.
Request you to please upload the complete video.🙏
See video description.
I didn't capture it. What is meant by death is absent
Death is of the body, mind, the self, soul whatever one may call it, it's immortal. The boy himself has already destroyed the mind, which craves for the possessions and the ego. So death is absent. He became immortal. Never born , Never died.
Immagine the universe life as a very very loooong line. Now imagine a tiny dot on that line: that's the human life.
So the truth is: compared to the universe life, human life is absent, not death! Our life is just a little dream in the cosmic nothingness and meaningfulness😎
But don't be upset or disappointed by that: just feel liberated from any delusional expectations instead 🌗
@@mysticrose4430 still I didn't get the depth of it. Please be brief.
Vivek, In the story death is a third person who was not present when the brahmins child reaches at its place. Also when the death is absent you may have possession of various things, love, wealth. When you meet death you have to give away all the possessions.
@@vivekkadari8445 you cannot capture it through mind, which is simply thoughts and the memory, the past. It's beyond mind, so when the mind is destroyed, there is nothingness, timelessness, bodylessness. Time, body, all are the creation of mind. When the mind get destroyed, then there is innocence, emptiness love. You are free from all bondages which are the seeds of misery. Your nature is just happiness, bliss. Don't worry if you didn't capture it. Stay silent, enquire and it will come to you without any effort. If you try to capture it , it will not. What I'm trying to convey is that the inner journey is not an intellectual one, rather it's an innocent one, graceful one. Any sort of intellectual understanding will not get you reach to the higher realms. So be silent and watch yourself, enquire. Thank you.
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2:33 What's happening here? What is he saying?
At that time a train was passing from there, so he said this is the fourth train.
Krishnamurti had only one mental disorder that he did not have much respect for Indian philosophy or any other philosophy other than himself, he felt that my observation and investigation is right and appropriate and only I have the power to think unconditionally, and this one bias made him from extraordinary to ordinary. ( I'm fond of Krishnamurti and I'm very deeply follow his teachings, but I came to know this one thing by his teaching method of observation)
Who is judging ? The opinion and judgement are the yardstick , that's the I , the ego. Listen and observe without the yardstick , then there is pure observation , then see what happens.
You've just stated how the Mind works. An Order within the Mind means blindly following ideas without understanding them, and this is when a Mind is trully out of balance. And this is a very dangerous state to be in. 🙏
alright sir
You see sir,he didn't think that only he can think unconditionally. He had companions like david bohm and other scientists with whom he explored every thing as it is.he inquired everything with an unbiased mind or with an objective point of view.
He didn't have any philosophy of his own, he was very simple and Egoless human being
I feel JK is a direct observer and original thinker. He is not a Philospher and put the things of life as it is without any shade of conditioning or distortion. He is just like Rishis and Munis and words coming from his mouth is like Upsnishad and Vedas in a timeless movement.
Nachiketa
K seldom acknowledges or speaks of Vedas , Upanishads or Indian mythology. This is a rare occurrence.
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When he speaks about upanishads don't take that lightly...you must be serious. that must be an important one..