Thanks for this dude! This is the review I needed to solidify my anticipation. I really appreciate all the detail you go into and all of the in action shots. One of the best reviews I've seen in a long long time. Great work!
There are SO many good trail shoes on the market now. I purchased some Salomon Slab Genesis, Hoka Speedgoat 6 and Dynafit Ultra 100's for myself as a Christmas gift last month but also have a lot of La Sportiva, Scarpa and other Euro brands. These are very interesting!
Interesting comp there - I like this better than Mafate 4 - that one feels a bit sluggish to me. They're totally changing V5 though so who knows what that will be like.
Looks like a great shoe, and nice review! Comment about the sizing, when a shoe is off that much (a full size) it makes it difficult for stores to order properly and sell the shoe. It also creates a lot of overhead with returns and exchanges. It's crazy to me that a company in 2024 can't figure out their sizing.
I think La Sportiva has always been this way. I suspect it's a climbing thing - climbing shoes are of course extremely tight, so I think their more rugged mountain shoes have seemed to follow that pattern.
Was waiting anxiously for this review to drop! Did not disappoint! Knit collar aside, I’d be curious to see a comparison with the VJ Maxx 2. I am a big VJ fan looking forward to trying their new midsole foam. The Maxx 2 seems like a lighter shoe. I only weigh 150 lbs so don’t need a huge stack….
@@kgenest100 Maxx 2 is a full ounce lighter in my equivalent size - Maxx 2 (9.0) vs. Prodigio Pro (10.5) ?! VJ's listed stack is deceiving though. It feels way thinner underfoot. I'm 138 lbs and it feels noticeably thinner to me. More details when I do full comps.
Thanks - I prefer doing it on the run anyway so it works out. Yes, I'm 10.5 - full size up from my true to size 9.5. I do often go 10 for "ultra" sizing, so depends how you want to look at it. La Sportiva does run small, objectively speaking. I list all my sizing in the comps sections of written reviews. This one's coming out in Spring, so it will go into the 2025 bucket for sure. Sometimes my "best of" picks get a bit mixed up around December. But I got these after I completed my picks.
I don't see any reason they wouldn't perform just as well as any Hoka for example or S/LAB Genesis. There's no plate - so that may be a preference thing - if you need/prefer rock plate protection or not.
seems lilke a good S/lab Genesis alternative (with better stability?) from La Sportiva! ... I love my regular Prodigios and am really interested in those pros... is the toe protection stiffer than the regular Prodigios? that's the one thing I'm a bit skeptical on my regular ones, especially on gnarly mountain terrain. thanks!
Yes - I'd be interested in a comparison with the S/Lab Genesis too please. Taking on a mountainous 100-mile race next summer and was fairly sure the S/Lab would be my shoe of choice but this review has me thinking otherwise now 😁 Thanks Mike!
Good pick for a comp. Very similar shoe in terms of idea and execution. I'd roughly say the Genesis slightly more agile, and the Pro-Pro more runnable, faster. More details on comps when I do the written review.
Yes, toe bumper is definitely thicker and more rigid than the regular model. That one has just a thinner film-type layer. The Pro has some rigidity to it.
How technical could you go? Have a sky mtn race, lots of above tree line, ridge running(walking). Would they stand up? Was thinking NF Off Trail TR, but like the run ability of these. Thanks
Hard to say exactly - probably depends on how well they fit your foot and how secure you feel. The TPU in the midsole is definitely energetic - maybe unstable it it's too rocky, loose rocks, shale etc. Off Trail TR is a different category I'd say. If it's really that rough you may need some type of protection underfoot. The Pro Pro still leans "runnable" mountain terrain I'd say.
@@robertlynn9667 Reading my mind.. I was just thinking about posting a side-by-side of those two exact shoes. I'll definitely have that once I get time to put together a written review.
Thanks for this review! 🤩 How do you think the prodigio pro would behave on very technical terrain (i live nearby the Alps)? I'd love a comparison with the salomon ultra glide s/lab ultra glide 😁 Keep up the good work!
RTR Sam chiming in for Mike. I had one day in Prodigo Pro during UTMB week and have reviewed S/Lab Ultra Glide here:www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/09/salomon-slab-ultra-glide-review-max.html. It will depend on your pacing. If you are a "faster" runner in tech terrain then the Prodigo Pro is my initial thought. The Ultra Glide does fine but its strength is in either slower paces or smooth terrain where it is fantastic and surprisingly one of the very best "road" shoes I tested in 2024
@@HumbleRunning you are correct the outsole lugs are widely spaced and not particularly dense up front due to Relieve Sphere gaps. Also thin and this is in the review at the very front due to this. Off tech terrain they are spectacular.
I'd go with this one for racing. I like the Adapt, but more as a steady, training shoe. More dynamic ride with the Prodigio Pro, flexible, feels softer, more response from TPU/EVA midsole.
Thanks for the great review. 2 questions: For both models do you use the same size? If you had to combine Prodigio Pro with another trail shoe to your quiver, what would you recommend? Merry Xmas!
@@luizfelippe1495 Hard to say with so much dependent on context. As far as an ultra-racing combo, I'd go with one of the "Big 3" I talked about in the video for very long ultras, and the Prodigio Pro would be a good complement for a little less distance/duration. The LS is also way more usable for training. So much is dependent on the terrain you're in though. I could make a case for using the Prodigio Pro for pretty much everything too.
Thanks for this dude! This is the review I needed to solidify my anticipation. I really appreciate all the detail you go into and all of the in action shots. One of the best reviews I've seen in a long long time. Great work!
Appreciate the feedback. I try to do reviews that I would watch myself - I definitely want to see the shoe in action!
both the shoes and the legs are amazing & powerful
There are SO many good trail shoes on the market now. I purchased some Salomon Slab Genesis, Hoka Speedgoat 6 and Dynafit Ultra 100's for myself as a Christmas gift last month but also have a lot of La Sportiva, Scarpa and other Euro brands. These are very interesting!
Such a great review, Mike! Thanks for all of the hard work!
Great review. Thanks!
A good job, Mike. Like from 🇪🇸 Spain. !!! Merry Christmas!!!.
Thanks Mike, I rate your explanation with a 💯 and it motivates me to leave Hoka Mafate for these Sportiva Prodigio Pro Merry Christmas 🤗🙏
Interesting comp there - I like this better than Mafate 4 - that one feels a bit sluggish to me. They're totally changing V5 though so who knows what that will be like.
Excellent review!
best review as always ! thanks ! it might be a new replacement for my old catamount 3 for me
Agree - this might be more similar to Cat 3 than the upcoming Cat 4. Very agile and good flex.
@ thank you 😊
@@HumbleRunning how does it compare to the Cat 4 in terms of supporting performance on runnable terrain?
@@codyjung6963 Still testing the Cat 4, need a few more runs in that one before full review. But it is as advertised - stiffer plate/ride, and fast!
Great informative review. Good detail. I'm a bit worried about width as I have a pretty narrow foot. But guess I'll need to try a pair on.
Yea, maybe try just a half size up, thicker socks possibly. The shoe is worth a try
Next level Mike! Looking forward to this one.
Dang, this looks perfect for running here in Colorado. Not surprised given Anton was involved, but really looking forward to this one!
I heard he's trying to make a run at UTMB again.. I'm sure he's putting lots of miles in this one and the upcoming MAX
Fantastic review. Please do the new TNF shoes when you can. Thank you!
Stay tuned! 😁
Looks like a great shoe, and nice review! Comment about the sizing, when a shoe is off that much (a full size) it makes it difficult for stores to order properly and sell the shoe. It also creates a lot of overhead with returns and exchanges. It's crazy to me that a company in 2024 can't figure out their sizing.
I think La Sportiva has always been this way. I suspect it's a climbing thing - climbing shoes are of course extremely tight, so I think their more rugged mountain shoes have seemed to follow that pattern.
@@HumbleRunning Often it’s a conversion thing for them crosscheck your EU sizes in them to Nike or so should be different than the us sizes.
@@JuneScapula ah good idea, didn't think of that. I never really look at the EU sizes except for like Scarpa - they have an odd sizing chart.
convinced! I will give them a try after running with Arc'teryx Sylan for almost a year. They look very similar but maybe better?
what brand is that blue coat?
Patagonia Storm Racer - nice design to get into front vest pockets easily.
Great information! Looks like one to try. Thank you!
What about size with the version pro 2025 , you have the same size with prodigio 2024? For me It s 10.5 us in version prodigio 2024. Thanks
I have both shoes seen in the video in US 10.5
@@HumbleRunning ok 👍thanks
For your written review, I’d love to see a comparison between this and the new Speedland GL PDX.
Currently testing that one! Need a few more runs before review
Was waiting anxiously for this review to drop! Did not disappoint! Knit collar aside, I’d be curious to see a comparison with the VJ Maxx 2. I am a big VJ fan looking forward to trying their new midsole foam. The Maxx 2 seems like a lighter shoe. I only weigh 150 lbs so don’t need a huge stack….
@@kgenest100 Maxx 2 is a full ounce lighter in my equivalent size - Maxx 2 (9.0) vs. Prodigio Pro (10.5) ?! VJ's listed stack is deceiving though. It feels way thinner underfoot. I'm 138 lbs and it feels noticeably thinner to me. More details when I do full comps.
Great review Mike best reviews when running in real time so you’ve gone up a full size?🤔is this a 2024 shoe or 2025 for your best off 😉
Thanks - I prefer doing it on the run anyway so it works out. Yes, I'm 10.5 - full size up from my true to size 9.5. I do often go 10 for "ultra" sizing, so depends how you want to look at it. La Sportiva does run small, objectively speaking. I list all my sizing in the comps sections of written reviews. This one's coming out in Spring, so it will go into the 2025 bucket for sure. Sometimes my "best of" picks get a bit mixed up around December. But I got these after I completed my picks.
How do you think this would would perform on technical mountainous long runs, eg the Hardrock course
I don't see any reason they wouldn't perform just as well as any Hoka for example or S/LAB Genesis. There's no plate - so that may be a preference thing - if you need/prefer rock plate protection or not.
seems lilke a good S/lab Genesis alternative (with better stability?) from La Sportiva! ... I love my regular Prodigios and am really interested in those pros... is the toe protection stiffer than the regular Prodigios? that's the one thing I'm a bit skeptical on my regular ones, especially on gnarly mountain terrain.
thanks!
Yes - I'd be interested in a comparison with the S/Lab Genesis too please. Taking on a mountainous 100-mile race next summer and was fairly sure the S/Lab would be my shoe of choice but this review has me thinking otherwise now 😁 Thanks Mike!
Good pick for a comp. Very similar shoe in terms of idea and execution. I'd roughly say the Genesis slightly more agile, and the Pro-Pro more runnable, faster. More details on comps when I do the written review.
Yes, toe bumper is definitely thicker and more rigid than the regular model. That one has just a thinner film-type layer. The Pro has some rigidity to it.
I’ve died and gone to Heaven. Yes!!! Sold!!! I have the reg Prodigio and thought it was the beginning of exciting things from LS. ❤
MAX coming too in the fall!
Would this Prodigio Pro compete with the new VJ Ultra 3?
Any plans to review the VJ?
We do have that one coming in for test. Don't have it yet though. The VJ seems higher stack, a lot different from the first versions
How technical could you go? Have a sky mtn race, lots of above tree line, ridge running(walking). Would they stand up? Was thinking NF Off Trail TR, but like the run ability of these. Thanks
Hard to say exactly - probably depends on how well they fit your foot and how secure you feel. The TPU in the midsole is definitely energetic - maybe unstable it it's too rocky, loose rocks, shale etc. Off Trail TR is a different category I'd say. If it's really that rough you may need some type of protection underfoot. The Pro Pro still leans "runnable" mountain terrain I'd say.
The drop on the PRO is 6mm, yes? In that case its 34/28 stack.
Yes, the text in the beginning is correct (34/28mm). I think I might have misspoke later in the video.
@@HumbleRunning Thanks. Your reviews are very informative. Will you do a review between the S/Lab Genesis & the La Sportiva Pro at some point?
@@robertlynn9667 Reading my mind.. I was just thinking about posting a side-by-side of those two exact shoes. I'll definitely have that once I get time to put together a written review.
Very excited about these but disappointed to hear that they run wide. I have always done well the traditional more narrow LaSportiva fit
Thanks for this review! 🤩 How do you think the prodigio pro would behave on very technical terrain (i live nearby the Alps)? I'd love a comparison with the salomon ultra glide s/lab ultra glide 😁 Keep up the good work!
RTR Sam chiming in for Mike. I had one day in Prodigo Pro during UTMB week and have reviewed S/Lab Ultra Glide here:www.roadtrailrun.com/2024/09/salomon-slab-ultra-glide-review-max.html. It will depend on your pacing. If you are a "faster" runner in tech terrain then the Prodigo Pro is my initial thought. The Ultra Glide does fine but its strength is in either slower paces or smooth terrain where it is fantastic and surprisingly one of the very best "road" shoes I tested in 2024
Trop cher et pas adapté pour du Trail technique la S-Lab ultra glide.. Ce sont deux chaussures completement différente
Haven't tried the S/LAB Ultra glide. I'd be a bit wary about that outsole in technical terrain
@@HumbleRunning you are correct the outsole lugs are widely spaced and not particularly dense up front due to Relieve Sphere gaps. Also thin and this is in the review at the very front due to this. Off tech terrain they are spectacular.
@@damienchaduiron3106 plutot pour moi la Ultra Glide est une chaussure pour "door to trail", chemins bien ballisse et routes.
This or Merrell MTL Adapt for a 50 miler?
I'd go with this one for racing. I like the Adapt, but more as a steady, training shoe. More dynamic ride with the Prodigio Pro, flexible, feels softer, more response from TPU/EVA midsole.
What is this jacket do you wear ?
Patagonia Storm Racer
Thanks for the great review. 2 questions: For both models do you use the same size? If you had to combine Prodigio Pro with another trail shoe to your quiver, what would you recommend? Merry Xmas!
Combine in what sense? A 1-2 combo to cover most conditions, or combining 2 shoes to create a Franken-shoe?
Option combo🙂. Like these examples: Prodigio pro and Salomon Genesis or Prodigio Pro + Hoka SG6 or Prodigio Pro + X shoe. Thanks
@@luizfelippe1495 Hard to say with so much dependent on context. As far as an ultra-racing combo, I'd go with one of the "Big 3" I talked about in the video for very long ultras, and the Prodigio Pro would be a good complement for a little less distance/duration. The LS is also way more usable for training. So much is dependent on the terrain you're in though. I could make a case for using the Prodigio Pro for pretty much everything too.
@@HumbleRunningI will take a look in the Big 3 video. Have a great running 2025! Thanks
This is one of few shoes i will pay full price for this year
Full price still quite cheaper than the big super shoes!
Which is faster?
Pro is faster than regular version - the TPU in the midsole is more responsive and they're also 0.3 oz lighter (in my size)
Tu pourrais donner le poids et ta taille de chaussures ?
Merci
@@simonjaouen54 c est donne dans la vidéo 274gr en taille us 10.5
Prodigio Pro some kind of Tecton X3 without plate.
Sort of, but X3 with full PEBA/high stack isn't nearly as stable.
@@HumbleRunningha funny.. the Tecton X3, my most stable trail shoes ;-))
Not rolled my ankle in them once