100000% correct , lighting is incredibly important and setup, and the fx30 is hella capable! But also , high key I love my fx6, thanks so much for having me on 🙌🏾 New Toronto boys represent
After getting used to the ergonomics of the FX6 it makes me not want to go back to a smaller FX3 sized camera. But if I had never used the FX6 perhaps it would make no difference to me
I have an A7Siii. Love it. It does a lot of heavy lifting for me as I grow into the camera. If I was ever in a position to get another camera, I'd probably go for the Fx-30 instead of going up to an Fx-6. But I think my next big purchase is some high quality lights for my office/studio because I'm starting to notice some flicker on the more inexpensive RGB bulbs.
I really was loving Camera B and thought that was the FX6 until the Skipping rope shot. I think It must be that Super 35 just looks more natural to the eye and what I'm used to seeing in films. Can't go wrong with either, they booth look fantastic.
I definitely want to get the FX6 but the cost is going to be a hard thing to pay for. I have a Fujifilm XT4. I totally agree with working with the camera you have and doing good lighting. I guess I'll start saving.
of course the fx6 is a lot more versatile than the fx30, but I do like the way the fx30 is small and easier to just film with. im sure your fx30 video in korea wouldve been alot harder with a big camera like the fx6. thats coming from me as ive just been filming casually with an a7iv, no professional work yet. obviously yeah no one is gonna bring an fx6 to make a travel video but its interesting to see the fx30 still holds up good in a professional setting. great vid once again👍
I’m glad I have the fx30 as my A cam!!! Sidenote, client perception is real. I had a client say great footage but please bring a bigger camera next time 😂
I'm definitely enjoying my FX30 but would love to have an FX6. I will say though that I've never had a client bring up my camera. In fact, before the FX 30, I was shooting on a blackmagic pocket 4K for 2 years and never had any questions about that either. I do think that the main advantage to something like an FX6, besides the fact that it's full frame, is the ergonomics. It's made specifically for shooting video. I know the FX30 is as well, but I think the strengths of the FX30 lie in the fact that it can be easily thrown on a gimbal. And like Kofi mentioned, client perception can sometimes be a factor for getting hired on bigger jobs.
100%!! Yeah, I've had the same inquiries before they specifically were looking for fx6 or equivalent... for reels... odd but they had budget. Anyways yeah for sure, tools for the right jobs!!
I thought for a moment the FX6 could do anything i want and need. But than, wait, my clients really often change what they want. And so I‘m much safer with a GH6. So i can shoot in 5.7 open gate and decide in the post, in which aspect ratios I do have to deliver the video. And the only thing I really miss is the internal ND. Cause with Olympus 1.2 lenses, the MFT almost looks like full frame.
Broooo, I was so sure cam B was the FX6, because -to me- skin tones looked better. The second time I watched the footage, though, I could tell cam B is a little weaker when it comes to black color areas. I don't think there's a huge difference, so I'm happy af I purchased the FX30 as my first camera ever, and videos like yours helped me making up my mind about it. 🤜🤛
funny enough, I actually tweaked FX30 skin tones to match the FX6! The FX6 skin tones were right on spot from the get go but still holds true that grading, lighting, and other things aside from the camera will make your footage look better than just the camera itself! You can get super close to the quality of the FX6 if these things are worked on!!
I got it right away, The FX30 has much less DOF (less bokeh) and the skin looks to have a noise reduction on it.. But very good if you need a crop sensor camera. I wish the the 2nd ISO range was at least 6400 and it might be a better deal for some lower light situations. Otherwise the 12.800 on the A7sIII or FX3 really makes a huge difference in lowlight.
Yeah, I really think it's easy to spot especially when we're so used to what the differences are! Same I think 3200/6400 would be cool. they missed that opportunity or maybe they intentionally crippled it
My thoughts: Fx6- For me, the Fx6 would seem to be a great entry point for creating spec work for short film / narrative projects. With having a lot of similarities towards some of the more professional cinema cameras available, I would definitely say that this could be great for exploring what it could be working on high budget sets. Fx30- Based off my knowledge and experience with the Sony A7iii, I would definitely use the Fx30 for absolutely dominating the content space. The price to performance ratio is absolutely insane. !!But I truly believe that in the aspect of “dominating”, your knowledge of the limitation of your camera is what truly makes the content look amazing. Conclusion: As of right now, I do not know all of the limitation of the Fx6 to really use it to its full capacity. On the other hand, knowing how the fx30 is limited, I can fully maximize its strengths while at the same time not feeling limited. (Still love the fx6 though)
To most, not so important if you're mostly filming people. I would rather get a7SIII/FX3 for wildlife due to the extremely fast sensor readout that could be nasty when slowing down from 4K@120fps for shaky birding, macro, etc. Both are great just understand your needs. FX6 is great and nearly the best for filming people or mostly in cities with no harsh weather, but a7SIII/FX3 would be much better for wildlife due to weather sealing and size. Considering FX30 or FX6 for weddings as a second camera, but already owning a7SIII it makes sense to jump to a1 or a7R V. FX6 internal e-ND's is just a gamechanger for on the move filming going out/indoor. Also a7SIII+FX3-30 are great for not drawing unnecessary attention when you keep the camera barebone.
The biggest thing you should be asking yourself before buying a camera (instead of how “good” the image looks) is “what am I going to use the camera for?” If you are run and gunning, don’t need high end audio with multiple inputs, will be posting your content to TH-cam (image becomes highly compressed) and need to take on and off a gimbal quickly, the fx30 is more than capable. If you are doing high end work that will be on television or less compressed media forms, need full frame look, and will need multiple audio inputs the fx3/fx6 is better for you. The biggest difference (as I see it) between the fx3 and fx6 is the built in audio and electronic variable ND. If your production calls for those things then go with the FX6. if not, then go with the fx3 and grab the audio handle and save yourself $2000 to $3000. Oh, and I forgot to mention, if you are using manual lenses, I wouldn’t go with any of these, I would go with the black magic pocket cinema cam (4K or 6k) as the image out of this camera is insane (especially if low light performance isn’t a dealbreaker for you.) take the extra money you save and invest in lighting or an assistant. Hope this helps!
I think its straight forward if you earn a substantial amount doing big productions or desire to be at that level then go with the bigger camera as its kinda of future proofing your work for when you really need a built in ND timecode raw output etc etc if thats not your field you want to go in THEN FX6 WILL be a waste of money as the Fx3 and FX30 7Siii etc are still powerfull camera and it still comes down to your ability to frame, vision, colour grade, lighting an5 execute the project good topic
S35 is the standard of cinema but nobody told TH-cam which apparently benefits more from full frame because everyone watched YT on big screens and defiantly NOT on mobile phones.
For what I do, I could use either - BUT... And this really IS the big difference for ME - the FX6 has the built in stepless ND system. If Sony were to put that into a body type like the FX3 or FX30 it would be an absolute no-brainer (which is probably why they won't).
Lighting for dramatic purposes, big problem today with the ability of an electronic digital camera to record almost anything anywhere. Just crank up the ISO. So film schools today, just don't emphasize lighting like in the good old days when we shot with film-went to Cal Arts in the seventies. We had to think about lighting. Of course, then dramatic lighting was Uno Number One. Not today. Most of the expensive feature films today show the lack of serious lighting for dramatic purposes. 😎😎
Or you can be like me and not resist the urge to get both the fx3 and fx30. I sold my a7s3 and got the fx30 as a B Cam because it literally has all the fx3 benefits but in apsc. I have the fx3 fully rigged out and the fx30 on a gimbal or just regular b-cam….but honestly I sometimes use it as an A Cam
FX3 and FX30 is my go to combo as well. If I needed the FX6 it would be the same as Kofi's setup FX6 and FX30. Just depends on what tools we need for the jobs we do!
If you can afford the Sony FX6 over the FX30, I'm sure you think its worth the money. People always say spend the money on Lighting it does not matter whether its crop or full frame but it does. In the end everything comes down to budgeting cost and the creative intention of the director of photography.
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100000% correct , lighting is incredibly important and setup, and the fx30 is hella capable! But also , high key I love my fx6, thanks so much for having me on 🙌🏾 New Toronto boys represent
Kinda want one now 👀 jk I love my FX3 FX30 combo! the new crew is out here now. We gotta make more collab videos soon!!
Never thought I'd see my two fav FX30 TH-camrs in one video, this is awesome. Cheers fellas!
@@mishbeam8430 we all live in Toronto LOL jk thanks for catching this one. Cheers!
After getting used to the ergonomics of the FX6 it makes me not want to go back to a smaller FX3 sized camera. But if I had never used the FX6 perhaps it would make no difference to me
Damn, your video is on point. Torn between APS-Cs and FFs. Thank you so much!
Lighting is key! If you can't use or shape light, go with FF for that extra range. Rent first before purchase!
I have an A7Siii. Love it. It does a lot of heavy lifting for me as I grow into the camera. If I was ever in a position to get another camera, I'd probably go for the Fx-30 instead of going up to an Fx-6.
But I think my next big purchase is some high quality lights for my office/studio because I'm starting to notice some flicker on the more inexpensive RGB bulbs.
yeah, those flickers are nasty!! good quality lighting is a must!
I really was loving Camera B and thought that was the FX6 until the Skipping rope shot.
I think It must be that Super 35 just looks more natural to the eye and what I'm used to seeing in films.
Can't go wrong with either, they booth look fantastic.
Exactly! both are decent workhorses. Just need to figure out the features and tools you need for the type of work you do!!
great review
I definitely want to get the FX6 but the cost is going to be a hard thing to pay for. I have a Fujifilm XT4. I totally agree with working with the camera you have and doing good lighting. I guess I'll start saving.
of course the fx6 is a lot more versatile than the fx30, but I do like the way the fx30 is small and easier to just film with. im sure your fx30 video in korea wouldve been alot harder with a big camera like the fx6. thats coming from me as ive just been filming casually with an a7iv, no professional work yet. obviously yeah no one is gonna bring an fx6 to make a travel video but its interesting to see the fx30 still holds up good in a professional setting. great vid once again👍
100% !! The FX6 is the ultimate production workhorse while the FX30 can be whatever you want it to be even outside of professional setting!
Dam your color grading is on 🔥🔥i would love to use those in my music videos!!
thank you!! yeah both are workhorses in their own ways!
I’m glad I have the fx30 as my A cam!!! Sidenote, client perception is real. I had a client say great footage but please bring a bigger camera next time 😂
hahaha it's too real!! I've had the same experience...
I'm definitely enjoying my FX30 but would love to have an FX6. I will say though that I've never had a client bring up my camera. In fact, before the FX 30, I was shooting on a blackmagic pocket 4K for 2 years and never had any questions about that either. I do think that the main advantage to something like an FX6, besides the fact that it's full frame, is the ergonomics. It's made specifically for shooting video. I know the FX30 is as well, but I think the strengths of the FX30 lie in the fact that it can be easily thrown on a gimbal. And like Kofi mentioned, client perception can sometimes be a factor for getting hired on bigger jobs.
100%!! Yeah, I've had the same inquiries before they specifically were looking for fx6 or equivalent... for reels... odd but they had budget. Anyways yeah for sure, tools for the right jobs!!
The electronic ND in the FX6 is game changing!
1000000000%
I thought for a moment the FX6 could do anything i want and need. But than, wait, my clients really often change what they want. And so I‘m much safer with a GH6. So i can shoot in 5.7 open gate and decide in the post, in which aspect ratios I do have to deliver the video. And the only thing I really miss is the internal ND. Cause with Olympus 1.2 lenses, the MFT almost looks like full frame.
Theres a diference yes, I could tell imidiatly, still, I might get the FX30 just due to budget
Broooo, I was so sure cam B was the FX6, because -to me- skin tones looked better. The second time I watched the footage, though, I could tell cam B is a little weaker when it comes to black color areas. I don't think there's a huge difference, so I'm happy af I purchased the FX30 as my first camera ever, and videos like yours helped me making up my mind about it. 🤜🤛
funny enough, I actually tweaked FX30 skin tones to match the FX6! The FX6 skin tones were right on spot from the get go but still holds true that grading, lighting, and other things aside from the camera will make your footage look better than just the camera itself! You can get super close to the quality of the FX6 if these things are worked on!!
@@VictorLaforteza A "FX6 Skin Tones LUT" for sale would be great.
Video is 🔥 as always ! Halimaw
salamat pero teka baka matakot mga subs sa halimaw hahaha
I got it right away, The FX30 has much less DOF (less bokeh) and the skin looks to have a noise reduction on it.. But very good if you need a crop sensor camera. I wish the the 2nd ISO range was at least 6400 and it might be a better deal for some lower light situations. Otherwise the 12.800 on the A7sIII or FX3 really makes a huge difference in lowlight.
Yeah, I really think it's easy to spot especially when we're so used to what the differences are! Same I think 3200/6400 would be cool. they missed that opportunity or maybe they intentionally crippled it
S’il vous messieurs je voudrais savoir la sony fx 6 et Sony FX3 il faut acheter la quelle c’est mieux s’il vous plaît
Noticed the b cam being fx30 cuz of the noise in the shadows 😆 dont need the fx6 but would love to use one.
Right?! you can spot it easily hahaha but yeah, fx6 is a great workhorse tbh. Used it a few times before and it's amazing.
My thoughts:
Fx6- For me, the Fx6 would seem to be a great entry point for creating spec work for short film / narrative projects. With having a lot of similarities towards some of the more professional cinema cameras available, I would definitely say that this could be great for exploring what it could be working on high budget sets.
Fx30-
Based off my knowledge and experience with the Sony A7iii, I would definitely use the Fx30 for absolutely dominating the content space. The price to performance ratio is absolutely insane. !!But I truly believe that in the aspect of “dominating”, your knowledge of the limitation of your camera is what truly makes the content look amazing.
Conclusion: As of right now, I do not know all of the limitation of the Fx6 to really use it to its full capacity. On the other hand, knowing how the fx30 is limited, I can fully maximize its strengths while at the same time not feeling limited. (Still love the fx6 though)
Well put! The FX6 definitely has better capabilities and is an excellent workhorse! Both are but different tools for different jobs!
I have seen only the first shots and I think Cam A is the FX6 👍🏻 I have the FX6 and I love it but I am still searching for a small b-cam 😂
I think for people who own or have used either cameras, it's easy to spot!! FX30 could be your b-cam ;)
To most, not so important if you're mostly filming people. I would rather get a7SIII/FX3 for wildlife due to the extremely fast sensor readout that could be nasty when slowing down from 4K@120fps for shaky birding, macro, etc. Both are great just understand your needs. FX6 is great and nearly the best for filming people or mostly in cities with no harsh weather, but a7SIII/FX3 would be much better for wildlife due to weather sealing and size. Considering FX30 or FX6 for weddings as a second camera, but already owning a7SIII it makes sense to jump to a1 or a7R V. FX6 internal e-ND's is just a gamechanger for on the move filming going out/indoor. Also a7SIII+FX3-30 are great for not drawing unnecessary attention when you keep the camera barebone.
Well put! Different tools for different needs!
The biggest thing you should be asking yourself before buying a camera (instead of how “good” the image looks) is “what am I going to use the camera for?” If you are run and gunning, don’t need high end audio with multiple inputs, will be posting your content to TH-cam (image becomes highly compressed) and need to take on and off a gimbal quickly, the fx30 is more than capable.
If you are doing high end work that will be on television or less compressed media forms, need full frame look, and will need multiple audio inputs the fx3/fx6 is better for you. The biggest difference (as I see it) between the fx3 and fx6 is the built in audio and electronic variable ND. If your production calls for those things then go with the FX6. if not, then go with the fx3 and grab the audio handle and save yourself $2000 to $3000.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, if you are using manual lenses, I wouldn’t go with any of these, I would go with the black magic pocket cinema cam (4K or 6k) as the image out of this camera is insane (especially if low light performance isn’t a dealbreaker for you.) take the extra money you save and invest in lighting or an assistant.
Hope this helps!
well put, Sean. Lighting and/or audio will always be the better investment once you have a fairly capable camera.
@@VictorLaforteza and these days, a capable camera is much easier to come by 🙏
@@flochfitness 100% what a time to be alive!
I think its straight forward
if you earn a substantial amount doing big productions or desire to be at that level then go with the bigger camera as its kinda of future proofing your work for when you really need a built in ND timecode raw output etc etc
if thats not your field you want to go in THEN FX6 WILL be a waste of money as the Fx3 and FX30 7Siii etc are still powerfull camera and it still comes down to your ability to frame, vision, colour grade, lighting an5 execute the project
good topic
very well put brother! exactly how it should go.
I love the FX30 but in the future as my work increases i would love to have a FX-6
Sameeee maybe by then there will be fx6ii ! That would be 🔥
It's carzy🔥
I would still choose FX6 for other features. For my budget that was ridiculous though so went with the affordable camera with affordable lenses.
had a hunch b was fx30 by the more compressed background. that being said not much difference in terms of quality when viewing on youtube.
especially with that TH-cam compression.. it just mushes everything in.
S35 is the standard of cinema but nobody told TH-cam which apparently benefits more from full frame because everyone watched YT on big screens and defiantly NOT on mobile phones.
hello bro. which set of lens is the best for FX30?
cine lens or af lenses? also what's your budget?
For what I do, I could use either - BUT... And this really IS the big difference for ME - the FX6 has the built in stepless ND system.
If Sony were to put that into a body type like the FX3 or FX30 it would be an absolute no-brainer (which is probably why they won't).
Potentially the fx3 ii but ya you’re right Sony won’t do it… hahaha we can only wish
Lighting for dramatic purposes, big problem today with the ability of an electronic digital camera to record almost anything anywhere. Just crank up the ISO. So film schools today, just don't emphasize lighting like in the good old days when we shot with film-went to Cal Arts in the seventies. We had to think about lighting. Of course, then dramatic lighting was Uno Number One. Not today. Most of the expensive feature films today show the lack of serious lighting for dramatic purposes. 😎😎
Or you can be like me and not resist the urge to get both the fx3 and fx30. I sold my a7s3 and got the fx30 as a B Cam because it literally has all the fx3 benefits but in apsc. I have the fx3 fully rigged out and the fx30 on a gimbal or just regular b-cam….but honestly I sometimes use it as an A Cam
FX3 and FX30 is my go to combo as well. If I needed the FX6 it would be the same as Kofi's setup FX6 and FX30. Just depends on what tools we need for the jobs we do!
cant wait to get my fx30 for my japan trip
Taking mine next month to Hokkaido!!
If you can afford the Sony FX6 over the FX30, I'm sure you think its worth the money. People always say spend the money on Lighting it does not matter whether its crop or full frame but it does. In the end everything comes down to budgeting cost and the creative intention of the director of photography.
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The Sony fx6's variable nd makes it worth imo but I have no money so fx30 is the one I'm saving for.
It really is a game changer!!
I just want a compact travel setup so fx30 is my go to
Same!!! FX3 FX30 combo is so good for travels
I new the moral of this story before I started watching - lighting 😂
hahahah it's CRUCIAL!!!
man, that title is hard to read!😂
😂😂😂 haha oops!!
My best advice is to rent both out and see which one you may like more
100% you’ll never know until you try and if it does help you with your work.