STOP overexposing SLOG3 to +1.7... (Sony A7IV A7Siii FX3 Cinematic Look)

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    0:00 - Intro
    0:42 - Why PP8 SLOG3?
    1:10 - Exposure Triangle Settings
    3:33 - Exposing SLOG3: The Efficient Way
    4:57 - Exposing SLOG3: Low Light
    5:30 - Gamma Display Assist
    6:07 - Zebra Display
    6:45 - Exposure Breakdown
    8:48 - Perfect Exposure vs Over/Underexposed
    9:42 - Day Time Exposure Example
    10:22 - Low Light Exposure Example
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  • @VictorLaforteza
    @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    FX3'S New update - Base ISO 800(CINE EI only) & 12800 :) Here's the official Sony Cine article for you SLOG overexposers out there ;) sonycine.com/articles/how-correctly-expose-s-log3---a7s-iii---fx3---fx6---fx9/

    • @sobolevskys
      @sobolevskys ปีที่แล้ว

      Are You sure ? FX3 and a7sIII are the same sensors, for a7sIII first of dual ISO is 640

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sobolevskys recent fx3 update they had changed it to 800 base iso. Cine EI mode. They finally made the two cameras a little different even if they have the same sensor. Source: my fx3. Check out all the videos about the new FX3 update as well.

    • @hootu
      @hootu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza so A7S3 is 640 and 12800. My friend kept telling me its 800 and 12800.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hootu yeah, if I’m not mistaken, a7siii is still 640 unless they changed it to 800 on a recent update. The FX3 used to be 640 but they changed it with the new update.

    • @furandpawlove5679
      @furandpawlove5679 ปีที่แล้ว

      love your explanation man! do you plan to make another video on CINE EI log shooting wit the update?

  • @426Studios
    @426Studios ปีที่แล้ว +57

    There is kinda misunderstanding regarding the topics at hand... first is the "overexposure". Technically speaking, if we are to go by what Sony recommends for Slog3 which is exposing middle grey to 41%, exposing the skin to 65-70 IRE is already overexposing it already to more than 1 stop, and even reaching 2 stops overexposure. The reason why we "don't want" to overexpose is because by exposing the middle grey to more than 41%, we are not maximizing the dynamic range of the camera anymore. But if you watch other videos such as Gerald Undone, they measured the A7s3 and A74 at around 13 stops of dynamic range. That's a lot of dynamic range compared to Canon's which is only at around 11 stops in these camera price range. So with that, its really fine to overexpose it in relation to Sony's recommended exposure of middle grey which is at 41%. Why would you still want to overexpose it? The reason for overexposure is the noise floor. Exposing your middle grey to 41% willl most likely put your shadows into the noise floor, thus the final output will be noisier especially that exposing a human subject at 41% will mean you need to adjust the exposure on post, thus being more noisier. If you expose it at 1.7 stops higher than 41%, at around 55% IRE on the skin tone, you are now exposing your shadows farther from the noise floor, thus your image being clean. And yes, you are misunderstanding the 1.7 stops overexposure that many of the youtubers are talking about. It is actually pertaining to the middle grey which I talked about. So when they say overexpose Slog3 at 1.7 stops higher, they are not pertaining to the metering of your camera, but rather they are talking about Sony's recommended exposure of middle grey. Second is what Joel Mulder have explained regarding the exposure of skintones, which depends on the ethnicity so depending on the ethnicity of the human subject, it goes around 45IRE to around 70IRE as what Joel Mulder have mentioned

    • @TylerMcCool
      @TylerMcCool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      yep... and how often do we need 13 stops of DR? How many scenes need to keep middle grey point to 41% & maximize for stops above and below middle grey? Almost never. In this regard, exposure is an art and not a science

    • @426Studios
      @426Studios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@TylerMcCool Please re-read my comment. I even said that its fine to overexpose it... BUT, you really dont need to with the newer Sony 10bit cameras, as long as you can properly expose the image using native ISO. Properly exposing the image using native ISO would mean that you will be get the cleanest possible image because native ISO is the cleanest and with proper exposure, you won't raise up the exposure on post, which would result to raising the noise floor on post. The only reason why you would overexpose an image (again, not by raising ISO cause that will raise the noise floor)) a stop higher than middle grey is because when lowering exposure on post, you would also lower the noise floor. Anyways, to answer your question regarding the "need to keep", its really not the need, but rather, by capturing your images using these guidelines, you will have more information captured and you will not be that limited on color grading because you will have more leeway on post

    • @TylerMcCool
      @TylerMcCool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you read my comment as a critique? ok.. and yes I'm aware, been shooting on fx9 commercially going on 3 years @@426Studios (many people have a very wrong idea when it comes to what is 'overexposed') best

    • @user-uf4mo6qn5d
      @user-uf4mo6qn5d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@426Studios Agree with your comment. I find that the video is a little bit misleading. Another thing is relying on the metering numbers is a no no. Histogram is more accurate because it reads the whole image. In a pinch, you can go past zebra and still have the histogram within the safe range.

    • @filmingkey
      @filmingkey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But for run and gun shooting where you may have to use ISOs higher than the base ones and you introduce more noise, if your trying to reduce that noise level in your shadows in post, would you still recommend to overexpose?

  • @chrispyfade
    @chrispyfade ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Sony A7 IV User:
    I'd say the best way to expose SLog3 is setting your Zebra to 94+. As long as you stay under this level you'll have an awesome image. ISO 800, 3200, 12800 are the best values. Then play around between +1.0 and +2.0. For High Contrast Sceneries I like to go up to +1.7 or +2.0 (not blinking) so I have much more information in the shadows. If there are people in the image try to expose them correctly because the viewer will pay most of the attention to them.
    Of course 4K 4:2:2 is a must. Framerate depends on the project you're shooting. 24fps for most cinematic look, 25 or 30 for broadcast (depends on where you are living), 60 for ultra smooth actions (nice for dance performances)

    • @jefersonpereira9450
      @jefersonpereira9450 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      25 it's the same as 24, you can't tell the difference. both are "Cinematic", broadcast look start at 30fps not 25. You just decide between 24/25 purely based on your location that you are living.

    • @jmfrokka2354
      @jmfrokka2354 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So if I have an external monitor which doesn't have a 94+ setting, would it be okay to set it to 98 + or - 4?

    • @chrispyfade
      @chrispyfade หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jmfrokka2354 94 is the value where SLog3 clips. If your monitor doesn't support 94 zebra level find your best work around yourself. I'd just set the cameras Zebra to 94+. Expose the image in the camera correctly. Use the monitor to check your frame, not to check your exposure.

  • @Rawrawproductions
    @Rawrawproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this was so good!! Love you explained it. It helped me wrap my head around it !
    I haven’t brought slog 3 to my event shootings becuase I play it safe. But excited on locking down that new beast setting !

  • @Createdbyvo
    @Createdbyvo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve used it before, and I believe my problem is what I’ve came to your channel for. Understanding how to expose for it. I’ve been trying to wing it a bit of what I know a little that I’ve learned, but you’ve broke it down so much better than what I’ve heard recently. Thanks so much, Victor! Really appreciate you!

  • @eazymac71
    @eazymac71 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is super helpful, especially seeing them side by side -- you can really see the image quality and clarity/accuracy difference between the three. Always struggled with getting SLOG3 exposed properly (A73), but now have the 4, so I'm going to try these recommendations!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a problem!! Test test test is key 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @willmannering
      @willmannering ปีที่แล้ว

      If you still use the A7III always use slog2 instead, there is no increase in dynamic range between the two and the 8 bit codec is not suitable for slog3. That in combination with ITU709Matrix will give you the best color and dynamic range on the A7III ;) (Check out Caleb Pikes video for why).

  • @clickin4u
    @clickin4u ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple and Straight to the point.....a big shout out for explaining ETTR in such a lucid way.

  • @alphafilmsuk.
    @alphafilmsuk. ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The best SLOG3 explanation I've come across! Feel more confident with exposing in this picture profile as things were always a hassle previously. Thank you for this video!

  • @KelseyRodriguez
    @KelseyRodriguez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your thumbnails are works of art and these vids are so informative! Preordered the FX30 and am super excited to take my vids here on TH-cam to the next level. Will be watching lots of your videos while I learn everything about this new camera

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, Kelsey! The FX30 is a great upgrade!! If you do have any specific questions outside of what is covered in the videos, feel free to reach out :)

    • @paperstacksfilms
      @paperstacksfilms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@VictorLafortezadoes this discussion apply to the fx30? Cause a lot of the videos on TH-cam say to overexpose 1.7+2.0 for that camera but I haven't exactly been happy with how far I need to push my footage back in post it feels unnecessary tbh especially in day light

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paperstacksfilms fx30 you’d still need to exposure to the right at 1.7. Check out my comparison between the fx30 and a6700 to see an extensive test of how to expose slog3 on both cameras

  • @itsmarcocanlas
    @itsmarcocanlas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video dude! Glad I subbed! I've only started using SLOG3 and still learning to use it. Grateful for content creators like you to show us ways to expose SLOG3!

  • @joelmulder
    @joelmulder ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Keep in mind skintone IRE depends on the kind of skintone.
    Darker skintones will have a lower ideal IRE (as low as 42), while lighter skintones can be up to around 78.
    It also depends on reflectance, which is something to keep in mind.

    • @braxtonwoullard1188
      @braxtonwoullard1188 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This isn’t talk about as much. You really have to dig through TH-cam to get this type of info about skin tones.

    • @creativcluster
      @creativcluster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep agreed 👏🏾

    • @k-qp2nv
      @k-qp2nv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what about mixed race people?

    • @joelmulder
      @joelmulder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@k-qp2nv being “mixed race” says nothing about skin tone.
      One can be mixed race African American and have a dark complexion, or not. Or one can be mixed race East Asian European and have an entirely different complexion.
      Light doesn’t care about which country your parents are from, only how much melanin is in your skin, so use an appropriate value between IRE 42-ish and 78-ish.

    • @k-qp2nv
      @k-qp2nv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well being half white half blacj usually means "mixed" and usually the skintone is neither dark or light,, biology@@joelmulder

  • @LMActionsports
    @LMActionsports ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I am new to videography, but I am a professional photographer. I’m trying to teach myself videography and since I have the Sony A7iv why not learn with it. Now I am using LumaFusion on my iPad Pro with the M1 chip and I watched another video that shows to do your exposure at least +1.7 to +2.0 and I was not liking the results after color grading. And now since watching this video I just tested it out and I am really happy with the results with skin tones using +0.7. And your video really showed on all three exposures the difference so I couldn’t wait to try it out. I’m so glad I found your video thank you so much for taking the time. It’s greatly appreciated

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad it helped out a lot! That’s right, the key thing is test test test to see how everything reacts!

  • @feederbrian9457
    @feederbrian9457 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Keep in mind that the Base ISO will differ depending on which camera you're using. On m A1, the two base ISOs are 800 and 4000. If you're not sure, go to a dim room, and look at the shadows as you crank the ISO from 800. At a certain point, it should clean up and that's your second base. This is helpful because shooting at 4000 is going to produce much cleaner results than shooting at 3200.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup! 100% I made this video with the a7iv audience at 5k subs and didn’t expect it to be shown more to others 😅

    • @RahulRathod-bn5rn
      @RahulRathod-bn5rn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VictorLaforteza Hehehe

  • @plasticmodule
    @plasticmodule ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most useful video I've seen in a while, exactly what I was looking for, many thanks!

  • @ptorre5554
    @ptorre5554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect video as always! Super helpful info with no filler, and informative examples that describe it perfectly. Love it!!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Patrick! Glad you enjoyed it! Hope the LUTs are helping with your workflow!!

    • @ptorre5554
      @ptorre5554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza 1000%! They are soooo helpful and really cut down on the time it took me before to grade it how I liked. I definitely agree with you on that slightly greener look though, it looks fantastic for that filmier aesthetic!

  • @Brotherthor7
    @Brotherthor7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not a Slog user. I shoot lumix Vlog but learning is learning, great information and examples from you that will help me and anyone else continuing to grow

  • @balintnagy3914
    @balintnagy3914 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was super helpful Victor, such an easy explanation with examples. I'm currently using SLOG3 on my A7IV mainly during outdoor docu shots and indoor talking heads and your video helped me to better understand what I'm doing behind the camera. Thx - Balint

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! if you have any other questions, feel free to ask!!

  • @paulcain548
    @paulcain548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and super helpful. Been apprehensive about using slog3 but maybe now I’ll give it a try. Thanks 👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @bhrishaprem5051
    @bhrishaprem5051 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tks a lot for this video. I've been struggling with my sony a7iv exposure. I have one question: for the sky exposure, whats the value for the zebras?

  • @BigPhilTheDirector
    @BigPhilTheDirector 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I recently came across your TH-cam video on exposing S-Log3, and I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude. Your insights and explanations were incredibly informative, and I feel like I've gained a much better understanding of how to make the most out of S-Log3.
    Your enthusiasm and clear communication style really made the topic accessible, and I appreciate the effort you put into breaking down the complexities of S-Log3. It's evident that you're passionate about sharing your knowledge, and it's been incredibly helpful for someone like me who is still navigating the intricacies of this feature.
    Your video has given me a renewed sense of hope and confidence when working with S-Log3, and I can't thank you enough for that. Consider me a new subscriber - I'm looking forward to more insightful content from your channel!
    Once again, thank you, Victor! Keep up the fantastic work.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear! Don’t miss out on the Sony cine article pinned comment on this video ! To take exposure to the next level

  • @Chow0012
    @Chow0012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I must have seen countless videos all with differing ways to expose - Thank you for your clear and easy to understand explanation!

  • @makaya
    @makaya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I've seen a few of these videos but this was actually way more helpful and in depth than anything. Great video.

  • @mellie2003
    @mellie2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything about this video is just perfect; the information presentation, practicality, subtle background music❤ You earned my like and subscription!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the sub!

  • @squints3146
    @squints3146 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been having so much trouble with slog3 thanks for explaining . Helped alot

  • @JeremySry
    @JeremySry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude - this was so helpful, really appreciate you breaking down the scenarios and everything step by step! thank you!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped dude!! Waiting for your next video 🙌🏽

  • @lagomholly
    @lagomholly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video and perfectly explained, thank you so much!☺️

  • @kennethlevy6357
    @kennethlevy6357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time using s-log with fx6. Learning the camera and best way to expose to get the best quality look and feel.

  • @CLVNS
    @CLVNS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought my A7IV last week, i will try this SLOG3 settings! Thank you!

  • @UbiquitousBooks
    @UbiquitousBooks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks very much. I came to an A7iv from a BMPCC 4k and blindly followed online advice to aim for +1.7. The footage always seemed a bit too hot for my liking in post and now I understand that in 10bit I can back-off the exposure and get a better end result.

    • @paperstacksfilms
      @paperstacksfilms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah dead ass and the amount of big name TH-camrs spreading that information online is crazy

  • @jaavedfilms8172
    @jaavedfilms8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man gonna try you SLOG 3 exposure was simple and to the point. Using Sony a7iv also and a beginner.

  • @ITzPake
    @ITzPake 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really good stuff! just got the a7 iv and this helped me a lot knowing how to exposure SLOG-3

  • @RensKapoor
    @RensKapoor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG... finallyyyy... I find a video where I really understand exposure on Sony a74 while using slog3.. I even bought a few LUTs and still couldn't get desired results and after watching and understanding this.. BOOM... I finally get the desired results.. Thank you so much...

  • @yonwuilianaubravo7117
    @yonwuilianaubravo7117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Victor for your content. Really helpful. Do you still use the pro mist filters? did you used those filter when shooting the fashion video?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! 1/8 for wide and mid range then 1/4 for telephoto :)

  • @phantomhighlights837
    @phantomhighlights837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I know what settings I should use in lowlight! thank you for this!

  • @caseyherzog
    @caseyherzog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing how I've watched hundreds of videos on exposing slog3 properly and this is the first video that I feel really gave practical information that I can actually use to get things exposed properly on the fly. Almost every other video basically just says get an external monitor.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really glad to hear that! An external monitor is great but not everyone has it and i wanted to share the knowledge I have to expose it just with the camera 🙌🏽

  • @andrewmizzi4097
    @andrewmizzi4097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this mate! I have been struggling with exposing S-Log since the a7smk1. Always thought it was the light and the issue that ND’s weren’t strong enough. So, do you strongly disagree on playing with the ISO for exposure if we do not have the ND’s (it’s quite the pain to invest in different lenses and ND sizes!) and what do you think about pushing it further than 3200?
    Thank you for some great tips about tones, the metering and zebra functions. I’m very excited to use the gamma feature too, how did you achieve that?
    Keep the great work, been enjoying your lessons 🙌🏻

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you find them helpful!! I definitely would keep the ISO in the base because it will have the least noise levels. I would only push it further than 3200 if I really need to! But if I can control it, I would still stay within base ISO levels.

  • @hiro.hashiguchi
    @hiro.hashiguchi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Subbed! Been exposing my shots in +1.7 ~ +2.0 forever and was never satisfied with it on post-editing. Little did I know newer Sony cameras has more dynamic range from +0.3~+1.0.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully this will give you better results!! Any questions feel free to ask! 🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @florentkallaba2613
    @florentkallaba2613 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. That was too hard for me to understand, after many videos, until I ran on this video. Great,simple and all details covered!
    Thank you and Kiu!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful! If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!

  • @holliente
    @holliente 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate this and all the other content Vic! I’m still using the A7C with the settings from your last video HLG3. Have you made any recent changes to it?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HLG workflow is still the same :) I do still use it on the zv-e10!

  • @thelazylorenz
    @thelazylorenz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have been trying out Slog3 more recently and always struggling to expose it. I was always going crazy to achieve +1.7 and I'm glad to know it's not neccessary!

    • @exploremarketingllc
      @exploremarketingllc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's this been working for you? Did you adjust to a lower zebra level too, or are you just exposing lower?

  • @Omarography
    @Omarography ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely helpful. Many thanks! I’d appreciate some insight on real estate videography, for interiors; WB and recommended settings. I’m planning to buy the a7iv just for videos. Thanks again.

  • @bryceflickss
    @bryceflickss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't used SLOG3 just yet, just getting down all the movements and basics of videos. This video helped a ton, especially for someone who is still kind of new to video.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Step by step brother!! Once you nail those movements and basics, get to some color grading stuff like the black magic free training. SLOG3 is quite a beast to master. Keep at it mate!

  • @trfilmwork
    @trfilmwork 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buddy, very good content. Straight to the point. Very clear. Helped a lot :)

  • @OrangeALEX
    @OrangeALEX ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this! I'm already used to go with S-Log3 on my a7IV but I never tried it in low light because I wanted to play it safe with no profile or S-Cinetone, now I'm definitely going with this method!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad to hear man! I’m also going to make a dedicated slog3 low light video 🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @ziqziq3797
    @ziqziq3797 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, this is very helpful - thanks for putting out the most concise video on this topic! I was notoriously against shooting log footage at night, but now I see there might be some reasons to in the right conditions I will of course test your method out :)

  • @musicengineersfilms
    @musicengineersfilms ปีที่แล้ว

    Boss, very clearly you explain sony a7iv slog 3 and cinematic settings. It's just wow. ❤️

  • @blakebyers5810
    @blakebyers5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video. I'm getting the a7IV through my workplace and will definitely be referring back to this video when we start using it.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Any other questions just ask!

  • @johnpaulsuico4697
    @johnpaulsuico4697 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the lesson sir victor

  • @schpeidermann
    @schpeidermann ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the other ISOS for, when it's optimal to use the native 800 and 3200? Or the ones in between at least? As a safety option?
    I was following someone's advice to set the zebras to +94 for SLOG3. When I saw some on my subject, I dialed them back, but it clipped anyways, because I was way over +2.0 on the multimeter. That made zebras on +94 a bit obsolete. Or did understand something wrong?
    Btw, great content! I'm learning a lot! Thanks man!

  • @JeremySry
    @JeremySry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yessss! been waiting for this video!

  • @darrenbrownphotography
    @darrenbrownphotography ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. I've been looking on info for exposing night or low-light scenes.

  • @scampifingers
    @scampifingers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very helpful! I was constantly trying to get to 1.7 but then id change situation and it would immediately be overexposed.. nice to know I can get away with having metering on a lower level

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      100%! Metering is a quick guide but it’s not accurate! Testing and knowing the limit of the footage is key 🙌🏽🙌🏽 these cameras are so good though

  • @kpmonaghan
    @kpmonaghan ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to applying this new knowledge, thanks!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Test test test!! See what works best :)

  • @thisiserich
    @thisiserich ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, thank you for explaining this. I’ve had a real hard time as a beginner in video understanding this. But you helped me get a handle on it. What seems to be nice about slog3 is it’s a lot of set it and forget it. Set your iso and shutter speed, and only worry about your aperture and nd filter to get proper exposure. I do kind of wish the a7iv had a slightly higher base iso for night time shooting for slog3, like 6400 or something. Either way, it still looks amazing.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad it helped you, Eric! It's definitely a beast to master but with more time and testing, it's one of the best profiles to use! I wish it had 6400 as well for it's 2nd base ISO but 3200 can work with a fast prime lens! But again that's another limitation that requires $$$ to be fixed.

    • @thisiserich
      @thisiserich ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza That’s quite true! I’ve found my 24-70 2.8 works pretty good in most low light situations at 3200 with the giant sensor, but I think eventually I’ll get a prime with an even faster aperture for those situations!

  • @DreySantesson
    @DreySantesson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very informative ! I try it out this afternoon, I kept always exposing to 1.7+ on the A7IV

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know if you have any more questions!!

  • @paulgarner3364
    @paulgarner3364 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well this is an eye opener ! I have also been trying to keep the exposure at 1.7 to 2.0, and have always been blowing out the highlights and to be honest, it drove me crazy to the point I resorted to S-Cinetone as I was missing out on footage of my newly born daughter. Yes I a novice, but everything else is going perfectly I just couldn't nail SLOG3. THANK YOU !! I will give this a go ..

    • @jakir_studio
      @jakir_studio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here

    • @paulgarner3364
      @paulgarner3364 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And there you have it. I did a load of footage this BH weekend just gone, kept it to between MM0 and +1.0 max, edited the footage in FCPX using a good simple converter LUT and it looks perfect ! colours are good, no blown out highlights and this goes for indoors AND outdoors. This is the best footage I have achieved since trying SLOG3 four months ago, so this just proves it ! well it does to me anyway. Good luck everyone !

  • @TiberiusRexx
    @TiberiusRexx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shoutout to you for the thumbnail design. Love the hint of the 70s film feel. Very very clickable :)

  • @ageofausterity3166
    @ageofausterity3166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ! What ND filter do you use ? Thanks for the great video !

  • @alexl2989
    @alexl2989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for the detailed review and comparison. Very helpful, I started using "Gamma Display Assist" and in general I got more understanding of how to shoot correctly in slog3 :)

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad to hear brother!!! Keep shooting 🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @Pfagnan
      @Pfagnan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES ME TOO BRO!!

  • @HNeatR
    @HNeatR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro this is the breakdown that we all needed. Thanks bro

  • @jlramos3d
    @jlramos3d ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video!. And your footage always look sweet.
    Do you have advice for what would be the best high ISO value for underwater footage on the Sony A1?. I think the base goes to 100-400 and 500-a lot. I am going to go need to go pretty high because the low light, wondering if there are steps or values better than others.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Unfortunately I have no experience with underwater :( I would say use the second base ISO and have a fast lens maybe 1.8 or 1.4 to get more light in

  • @Kiggezoo
    @Kiggezoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video Victor! Thank you for providing your knowledge! Just bought a Sony A7s III and will start using S-LOG3 for the first time ever. Very excited to start this journey,.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very welcome man! Make sure to use ISO 640 or 12800 since that’s the Base SLOG3 ISO for the a7siii! I forgot to include it in the video 😅😅 enjoy slog3! Practice lots!

    • @Kiggezoo
      @Kiggezoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza Wonderful! Thank you so much for much! Subscribed! Keep those awesome videos coming! Would love to see more videos showing how to work with the Siii :) Maybe an entire workflow video from Setting up the camera, exposing, shooting, editing. =) Thank you!

  • @MrLucrativethought
    @MrLucrativethought ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you really helped me out. Thank you.

  • @mikethames3072
    @mikethames3072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using SLog3 a lot more lately. I think you've inspired me to do more testing with exposure. Not sure if you have a video on which correction luts you use for your slog3 or how you correct it, but they'd be a good one. Considering that you're doing a lut giveaway, i assume they might be your own luts. I'll be searching your channel for info on that. thank you!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it was inspiring! Test test test is the right way!

  • @martiiint
    @martiiint 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful for a beginner! thank you!

  • @Iamtongue
    @Iamtongue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was helpful thanks so much!

  • @xSkyFly
    @xSkyFly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What lens did you shoot this with? I'm noticing a bit of blue streak lens flares, chromatic abberations, and the color image looks great!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re added in post! DaVinci resolve effects :)

  • @theartistFKAjudge
    @theartistFKAjudge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This helped a bunch man, thanks!

  • @kimilkartap4216
    @kimilkartap4216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you, I've been looking for a solution for shooting in slog, I always shoot slog with auto ISO and expose it to +2, but in post I'm not satisfy with the out come. I will this method and thank you for sharing.

  • @erickheyl8293
    @erickheyl8293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ended up setting my A7IV exposure to +1.7 because I watched a few TH-cam videos… was working with really overexposed imagery but coming from 8bit it was still impressive the amount I could fix in post.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely a lot more data in the video files on newer Sony cams!!

  • @LennonMapes
    @LennonMapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always loved s-log 3 and getting that perfect exposure at night was sometimes a challenge. So using the highlight metering mode is something new to me but I’ll definitely be using that for night time. Thanks so much!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Night time exposure for SLOG3 is quite tough. You wanna test test test until it makes sense!! Hopefully these guidelines help you out, Lennon!

  • @Francescofilmmaker
    @Francescofilmmaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much!!!!! I use s log three - I’m still learning but I’m loving it!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy it more with these guidelines!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @Francescofilmmaker
      @Francescofilmmaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza very helpful thanks!
      My friend said that it’s best to do it +1.7 but I’m glad to this. Also I loved your footage from that modelling shoot. Really nice!

  • @jakir_studio
    @jakir_studio ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very well explained I was shooting 1.7 to 2 stop and my highlight blowing out

  • @mugen-PT
    @mugen-PT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Victor, can I ask what filter you have on your camera? I like the diffusion + lens flare, are you adding anything in post?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have black pro mist 1/8 and the lens flare and chromatic aberrations are lens reflection & prism blur on davinci resolve!!

  • @medialinx767
    @medialinx767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful because i was here overexposing S-Log3 on the a7IV +2 like i did with the a7iii...Thanks mate!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still applicable but not necessary anymore!!

  • @TheValueThinker
    @TheValueThinker ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great vid! Subbed! Very helpful vid. I may be new and just doing something wrong, my metering is stuck at "1.3" and doesn't really change even when I change aperture like you recommended it to be between 0-1.0. Do I have some setting wrong?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey! What mode are you shooting? Put the camera on Manual shooting mode and if you're using the newer cameras like the a7iv or similar, there is also a flexible shooting mode where you can set a setting in auto (iso, aperture, shutter) - I have mine on custom buttons and sometimes I do accidentally turn it on and if one of them is on auto, it will make the camera always shoot at your chosen meter value (i.e. +1.3). I hope that makes sense! lol if it's still doesn't work, shoot me a message on IG or join the discord group. We'll help you out!

    • @TheValueThinker
      @TheValueThinker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza hey Victor, thanks so much for your advice. I have the a7iv, on manual mode but metering keeps reading “1.3” and won’t move at all. I will join the discord and send you some dms. Thanks so much again for all the helpful content. Appreciate it

  • @egnogra
    @egnogra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was exactly the video I was looking for to learn how to shoot on a log perfect man

  • @asdrofllmao
    @asdrofllmao ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial, thanks for sharing it with the rest of us, especially as someone on an A7IV! What's your advice for when you want to stick to a particular aperture (e.g. you want that wide open look) and shutter speed, while also keeping the ISO at 800? Seems to me that the only knob you're left with in those situations is to add more ND filters or use a VND to dial in the amount of light coming in just right so you can keep aperture and shutter constant?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing to hear! You're correct! the last thing you could do is to get stronger ND's / VNDs for those wide open look for bright sunny days. You could lower down the ISO as a last resort but always good practice to keep it at 800 for the best image. You could also crank the shutter speed if there's not a lot of movement in the scene!

    • @asdrofllmao
      @asdrofllmao ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza Thanks for the tip, makes sense to me!

  • @Andrew_AWMEDIA
    @Andrew_AWMEDIA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome video, very informative, i was about to start changing settings on my camera but... does this apply to cams such as the fx30 ?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes but you need to up the exposure to +1.3

  • @flochfitness
    @flochfitness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff!!!

  • @dulangaehalamalpe8956
    @dulangaehalamalpe8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Sony A7IV this was really helpful! Thank you! SLOG is amazing!!!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome!! Now shoot some more SLOG!! 🙌🏽

  • @chox1
    @chox1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Victor , Loving your content 😍
    btw , can u tell me which font you use in your thumbnails . it looks super dope !!!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      NT Wagner 🙌🏽

    • @chox1
      @chox1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza thanks .

  • @irvingmartinez98
    @irvingmartinez98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven’t learned this much about my camera in a while. The technical side of things is so important! Love shooting s log 3. Will love it more now!

  • @williams_dominic
    @williams_dominic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was not a big fan of s-log 3 but i really wish to explore the s-log 3 for my future works and i just found you today... Thanks lot for sharing the knowledge. Super happy to be a subscriber and looking forward to meet you one-day.
    PEACE ;)

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome aboard! With SLOG3 it just requires a little bit of practice and testing to get it right! especially for a7iv a7siii! :)

  • @GustavoRamirezz
    @GustavoRamirezz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found your channel just over a week ago and love the content

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      welcome aboard! More content coming up 🙌🏽

  • @pedropral
    @pedropral ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful! Btw what ND Filter are you using? Thanks a lot!

  • @srivaniartsvisuals6375
    @srivaniartsvisuals6375 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks bro. For explaining clearly. Fx 30 settings of s log 3

  • @pikix
    @pikix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m always using slog 3 , but I wasn’t using highlights only to shoot those low lights scenes. Tks for the tip. 💙

  • @ridabdullah7320
    @ridabdullah7320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t shot S-log yet! Will be going out in the morning to shoot, planning to give it a try 🦾 have been using your methods to color grade in Davinci! Amazing stuff bro 🙏🏼 Hats Off 🌸

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah!!! Practice practice practice! Best thing to do to get your footage next level 🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @blokkparty
    @blokkparty ปีที่แล้ว

    First off, thank you so much for all of this helpful information. Would you please be able to make a more in length video covering night exposure in different light settings? Possibly extending this working with HLG3? Again thank you!:)

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds great! will make an extended version at some point!

  • @IvanRayBalais
    @IvanRayBalais ปีที่แล้ว

    this is very helpful very nice tutorial..

  • @erikpreston2393
    @erikpreston2393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Victor, very helpful! Question. Is there a Native ISO for the FX30, irrespective of whether it's in Cine EI or SLOG 3? For example, if I'm punting to PP 11 (Cinetone) do I need to stay in a native ISO or can I use whatever ISO I desire for the situation at hand?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Slog3 is 800 & 2500 on the fx30. I think s cinetone is something lower but I’m not quite sure! Like 100 but idk what the second base iso is

  • @MarcoRompiettiOfficial
    @MarcoRompiettiOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Victor, I would like to ask you a question. I am an FX30 owner and shoot football sports videos. Out of many slog tutorials this one is helping me the most! So in the meantime: thank you!
    My question is this: putting an exposure between +0.03 and +1 (on the MM) and following your advice, I go very high with the ISO (however there is not much noise). How far do you advise me to go in terms of iso in order not to "damage" the fotage?

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in my experience at around 3200 is my max. I'd always use 800 or 2500 though for the best image possible! For the FX30, it actually needs more light in. I'd say expose for +1 to +1.3 most of the time and then bring it down in post to balance the exposure.

  • @jer3006
    @jer3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Victor. I'm one of the new guys you mentioned: New to videography & new to the a7iv. And as you predicted, I learned a lot from this video so that I think I can give SLog3 a try now. But admittedly, it was too daunting before I watched your "this-is-how-you-do-it" video. I noticed from your YT Channel Home that you are doing a lot of a7iv topics, which I need desperately, so I subscribed & belled. Thanks for pulling me out of the fog and into S-log. Yeah, you can quote me on that- AFAIK, it's original. :-)

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely a tough one for new Sony owners! It’s a process to learn and the best part is the journey of getting there! Glad the video was helpful! Any questions at all, just ask! You can also join the discord group where our little community is situated 🙌🏽

    • @jer3006
      @jer3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza Already a Discord member, so I guess I can just log-in using your Discord link. Thanks!

  • @daniellindsay6768
    @daniellindsay6768 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sooooo much,. I have been overexposing for the last year now and always having trouble with clipped highlights

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries! Testing is key!! if you have any other questions about it, feel free to ask!

  • @gedreeves9692
    @gedreeves9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh dude! This was brilliant. Shooting an event next week that will be indoors at night, was nervous to use s-log3 but will give it a practice over the next few days! Appreciate the video!

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's quite tough at the start! Lots of testing until you get it right!

    • @gedreeves9692
      @gedreeves9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza what's your thoughts on 8bit slog2 compared to 10bit s-log3? I've got the a7c and was considering using it on a gimbal in slog2 to have a good variety of shots so I don't have to chop and change my fx3 rig to fit it on a gimbal.

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@gedreeves9692 It's doable but definitely tough... I mean it's okay but you'll have to spend some time in post to match both cameras. HMMMM might be a good video idea to cover... I have to do some testing!

    • @gedreeves9692
      @gedreeves9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza haha awesome! Glad I could help 😁 I'm having a go now, seeing how different the picture looks.

  • @KirtanFi
    @KirtanFi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tutorial thank you 🙏🏽🌷

  • @eike.zender
    @eike.zender ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool video. When it comes to exposing Slog 3, it seems to be some sort of question of faith. So far, I always tried to follow the guidelines of the phantom luts. For skintones it's 56 Ire +-3, some others tweaked those settings even lower to 50 +-2 . Others add 15% to you standard IRE value. I don't know ... I will test your approach, cause 70 IRE does make sense.
    Another question: what kind of overlay do you use in this video to get this RGB effect on the corners?
    Thank you 💓

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's all about testing! Sony's official for skintones is 56 as well! I just like the flexibility in post especially for run and gun or time constraint shoots. Definitely test what works best for your workflow! :)
      The RGB effect is a prism blur on davinci resolve. I covered it in one of the editing videos "how to get the film look"

    • @eike.zender
      @eike.zender ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLaforteza thank you so much for your fast and detailed answer. Didn't know, that 56 is the official Sony number.
      Well...I think I have to switch to DaVinci Resolve :)

  • @ignaciobera_
    @ignaciobera_ ปีที่แล้ว

    What a awesome video! I learn a lot, looking forward to try all this, thank you very much. You think it will have similar results on a A7iii? Greetings from 🇦🇷

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey! With the a7iii having only 8bit, unfortunately this might not work at all for that one as the colours won't be as good and the noise values might show pretty easily! you can still try it out and see how it looks :)

  • @nafisahmedvideos7882
    @nafisahmedvideos7882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    simple yet informative ...great one.. I do fashion and product videos. for skintones , what if I set the zebras 55 +/- 5 as everyone's has different skintones ??

    • @VictorLaforteza
      @VictorLaforteza  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That could definitely work as well. I would actually raise it up to 60/65 IRE, even if we overexpose just a little bit for darker skin, we would still have some good amount of flexibility in post! Better safe than accidentally underexposing the shot! I suggest testing it out to see what works best :)