You mentioned at the beginning that the m90 was just a civilian offering never used by the military which is true, mostly. The M90 actually was originally designed by Yugoslavia as a 5.56 official military rifle, but the turmoil and breakup of Yugoslavia messed up that plan and it never reached official adoption. It was however designed for military use, not just a civilian sporting rifle.
@@13bredlegextraordinaire Sadly this is very true. The worst was the recent "Why Almost All Fighters Use The AK-47" Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge AK fan, I love them more than AR, but that video was so bad and full of tropes, including using photos' of FN FAL and calling them AK.. Also worth mention since I posted this comment I read even more about the M90 and own one myself. Not only was it planned for full scale military adoption but some may have even seen combat and some were certainly issued out to front line troops. Kind of like how the SIG M7 is being field trialed, hundreds of M90 did finish production before the breakup of Yugoslavia so it definitely has some genuine military credentials. Even if it never reached the heights it was intended to. Zastava and Serbia did go on to make the M21 5.56 AK the official Serbian rifle, and it very much is a modified M90, kind of a M90 2.0 with a folding stock, polymer furniture and moved the front sight post to the gas block. They have multiple versions of the M21 as well in different barrel lengths; (18 in) (M21 A) (14.8 in) (M21 S) (12.8 in) (M21 C)
Funny enough my M90 came zeroed from the factory. I was hitting steel out to 300 after zero adjustments. Also I use AC unity mags. They’re a LITTLE tight but once you unload and load them for a bit it grinds out the extra material, making for a tighter fit with still easy Loading.
@Michael S And here's Ranko, from Zastava Arms USA, saying that very thing, that the rifles are zeroed by firing, not by the use of laser. th-cam.com/video/9CZu-DqQ4YA/w-d-xo.html
I am suprised to hear this, My rifle has been 100% Great so far. They may have gotten so Busy filling Orders that the Quality Control has suffered to some degree.I would have contacted Zastava sent it Back and I am sure Ranco would have sent you a NEW Rifle.I'd be willing to BET MONEY
My factory mag has almost no play at all and it seems like the quality control was pretty good. I’ve only shot approximately 100 rounds through it though.
My theory about the oxidation on the rivet is they ran out (perhaps due to riveting mistakes) on this particular gun... and had to source a different batch of rivets, made of a slightly dissimilar metal/alloy. When two differing metals are placed in contact with one another it forms a 'corrosion cell' (basically the same process that a battery goes though). They would need to replace that one rivet with the similar metal/alloy rivets that are on the rest of the gun.
if you buy 1 CHECK it real good i have a m70 is is sweet and came totally zeroed my m90 is rough to say the least. looks like it was dropped on the top of the front sight, the mag release fitment is so bad every mag hangs up on it and the mags are hard to remove as a result, the front sling attachment also looks like it was dragged across the floor for the money paid i expect much better i'm actually very dissatisfied it also has bad feeding issues it jambs up constantly. they sent me a new mag i have not had a chance to try it with the new mag. i hope the problem was the mag wobble, we will see. i wish i looked at it more closely when i did the transfer knowing what i know now i would have sent it back.
Have you got to try the WBP Polish 556?? I got one and added a KNS piston on it....its STUPID soft...added a laser and bust steel off the hip at 100 yards...happy blasting🎉
I believe you in your negativity here. Now, I have seen a couple of the m90s and they were very well fit. Straight, perfect finish, nicely machined etc. Now, I am no AK guy and am well versed in quality firearms. I am only saying I believe Zastava is very variable....
It’s still a solid rifle. I just expected better build quality, fit and finish at this price point. Zastava let me down in that regard. They are clearly not concerned about cosmetics when it comes to QC.
My m70 has perfect rivets. My m90 rivets aren't perfectly oval. I know what you mean. I think they are 3rd party rivets zastava is buying. They are sort of crooked and rough on top.
Looks good with that wood furniture. Are you going to replace the stock? Also, have you had any issues with the gas tube adjuster switching settings on you like Rob Ski over at AKOU did?
I just swapped the stock over to wood. Feels much better now. No issues at all with the gas adjustment, but I haven’t used it much. Just got to 500rds and she is running like a champ now.
@@dfwguncleaning7523 Good to hear. I've been eyeing a 5.56 AK for a while now but They're tough to find. I was looking at either the M90 or the CG556 from Atlantic Firearms' MFG group. I have an M70 I like, but the aftermarket support for Yugo AKs is pretty lackluster and I can't find any info on any of Atlantic's AKs let alone the CG556. I'll just have to keep looking around.
@@Limp_Bizkiteer In robski's video he bent the retainer up with a cartridge, i went through on the manual that came with mine and your not supposed too do that. The way it says too do that is too take the entire gas tube off and rotate too wherever
That blue stuff is oxidized copper. I get that on my ARs even with good ammo. If it was corrosion it’d be everywhere because bluing is a lighter finish.
The oxidized copper fouling is not a concern. The exterior of the comp is covered in rust though. Zastava did reach out. They said they were unsure why it rusted the way it did and offered to replace it if I sent them an email.
I have a M-70 7.62x39 anytime I reached out to Zastava, they wete very receptive. Mine with Walnut furniture looks great with US Palm FDE Stainless Steel Latch Cage Magazines. @dfwguncleaning7523
Unfortunately i haven’t shot more than 100 rounds yet, but everything I’ve shot (62 gr Winchester m855) fed and ejected correctly. Even on setting two, which is the highest I’ve set it yet, recoil was manageable and brass was ejected 20~ feet consistently. Whatever problem they had, they may have corrected it by now.
The zastava polymer mags fit loose-ish from factory for a few reasons. 1st, polymer mags swell when loaded, did you notice the wobble almost disappear when loaded? 2nd, they are designed to fit other rifles potentially. No idea which they fit though.
The polymer mags are still pretty loose when loaded. My guess is, they are made this way to fit a wider variety of 5.56 AK rifles. They almost fit in my Galil.
@@dfwguncleaning7523 They seemed to fit more tightly in mine, little movement without some effort. Ak magwells aren't designed with support like many western rifles. Doesn't seem to cause any problems with feeding, the exception being I.O. , century, bubba, and some pioneers.
Thank you so much for putting wooding furniture on there. That hogue might be comfory but it's fugly. W so much suprlus handguards, whyyyy zasta? 922r part or not
Zastava actually reached out to me. Their response was that the rivet is fine. Mechanically, I’m sure it is. Cosmetically, it’s sloppy work on a $1k+ rifle.
I have not been impressed with the build quality given the price tag. The rivet work is just sloppy, which would be understandable on a gun costing hundreds less. As it stands though, I wouldn’t buy it again.
AKs are the only fighting rifle I trust but I just can't get behind a AK shooting 5.56 it's almost a sin a abomination 😂 AKs shoot 7.62×39 just the way it is that's a AK that woke up one morning and decided it was gay 😂😂😮😮
idk, kinda sounds like nitpicky crybaby stuff. Maybe next time you oughta get an AR instead. BTW: you can wipe the white stuff around the rivet off with some oil (ask me how I know).
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You mentioned at the beginning that the m90 was just a civilian offering never used by the military which is true, mostly. The M90 actually was originally designed by Yugoslavia as a 5.56 official military rifle, but the turmoil and breakup of Yugoslavia messed up that plan and it never reached official adoption. It was however designed for military use, not just a civilian sporting rifle.
No one ever checks google before making videos anymore lol
@@13bredlegextraordinaire Sadly this is very true. The worst was the recent "Why Almost All Fighters Use The AK-47" Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge AK fan, I love them more than AR, but that video was so bad and full of tropes, including using photos' of FN FAL and calling them AK..
Also worth mention since I posted this comment I read even more about the M90 and own one myself. Not only was it planned for full scale military adoption but some may have even seen combat and some were certainly issued out to front line troops. Kind of like how the SIG M7 is being field trialed, hundreds of M90 did finish production before the breakup of Yugoslavia so it definitely has some genuine military credentials. Even if it never reached the heights it was intended to.
Zastava and Serbia did go on to make the M21 5.56 AK the official Serbian rifle, and it very much is a modified M90, kind of a M90 2.0 with a folding stock, polymer furniture and moved the front sight post to the gas block. They have multiple versions of the M21 as well in different barrel lengths;
(18 in) (M21 A)
(14.8 in) (M21 S)
(12.8 in) (M21 C)
Funny enough my M90 came zeroed from the factory. I was hitting steel out to 300 after zero adjustments. Also I use AC unity mags. They’re a LITTLE tight but once you unload and load them for a bit it grinds out the extra material, making for a tighter fit with still easy Loading.
@Michael S And here's Ranko, from Zastava Arms USA, saying that very thing, that the rifles are zeroed by firing, not by the use of laser.
th-cam.com/video/9CZu-DqQ4YA/w-d-xo.html
Always check a new firearm prior to excepting it from your FFL dealer.
ALWAYS 🎉
I am suprised to hear this, My rifle has been 100% Great so far. They may have gotten so Busy filling Orders that the Quality Control has suffered to some degree.I would have contacted Zastava sent it Back and I am sure Ranco would have sent you a NEW Rifle.I'd be willing to BET MONEY
Mine had too tight of a magwell. But other than that, it works.
Zhukov and wood, with a bakelite grip..I really like that setup. Looks good even though you don't care for the Zhukov lol
FAB makes amazing shock absorber stocks 👌
looks like the etts range
That’s the one
My factory mag has almost no play at all and it seems like the quality control was pretty good. I’ve only shot approximately 100 rounds through it though.
My theory about the oxidation on the rivet is they ran out (perhaps due to riveting mistakes) on this particular gun... and had to source a different batch of rivets, made of a slightly dissimilar metal/alloy. When two differing metals are placed in contact with one another it forms a 'corrosion cell' (basically the same process that a battery goes though). They would need to replace that one rivet with the similar metal/alloy rivets that are on the rest of the gun.
Salt left over from the buling process I'm thinking.
if you buy 1 CHECK it real good i have a m70 is is sweet and came totally zeroed my m90 is rough to say the least. looks like it was dropped on the top of the front sight, the mag release fitment is so bad every mag hangs up on it and the mags are hard to remove as a result, the front sling attachment also looks like it was dragged across the floor for the money paid i expect much better i'm actually very dissatisfied it also has bad feeding issues it jambs up constantly. they sent me a new mag i have not had a chance to try it with the new mag. i hope the problem was the mag wobble, we will see. i wish i looked at it more closely when i did the transfer knowing what i know now i would have sent it back.
yes have a m70, its great, but same on the 90 somebody dropped it
Have you got to try the WBP Polish 556?? I got one and added a KNS piston on it....its STUPID soft...added a laser and bust steel off the hip at 100 yards...happy blasting🎉
AC Unity mags work like a champ
Good to know.
Agreed! I have the steel zastava which fit good, but the ac unity fit perfect and function flawlessly.
I believe you in your negativity here. Now, I have seen a couple of the m90s and they were very well fit. Straight, perfect finish, nicely machined etc. Now, I am no AK guy and am well versed in quality firearms. I am only saying I believe Zastava is very variable....
It’s still a solid rifle. I just expected better build quality, fit and finish at this price point. Zastava let me down in that regard. They are clearly not concerned about cosmetics when it comes to QC.
Yep. My M 90 had no such issues, and looks great. It's a sample group of one so....... .
M70. Military quality. M90. Commercial quality
My m70 has perfect rivets. My m90 rivets aren't perfectly oval. I know what you mean. I think they are 3rd party rivets zastava is buying. They are sort of crooked and rough on top.
I'm a lefty , how would you rate the stock for a LH shooter ?
Do you know if the vickers qd front sling mount work on the small hole 🕳 on the front of a m85 ? Thanks 🙏
That rivet looks to have bluing salt around it
Excellent wood work 🪵
The Russian pufgun AK/ Veper mags are suppose to run good and there around $25.
Looks good with that wood furniture. Are you going to replace the stock? Also, have you had any issues with the gas tube adjuster switching settings on you like Rob Ski over at AKOU did?
I just swapped the stock over to wood. Feels much better now. No issues at all with the gas adjustment, but I haven’t used it much. Just got to 500rds and she is running like a champ now.
@@dfwguncleaning7523 Good to hear. I've been eyeing a 5.56 AK for a while now but They're tough to find. I was looking at either the M90 or the CG556 from Atlantic Firearms' MFG group. I have an M70 I like, but the aftermarket support for Yugo AKs is pretty lackluster and I can't find any info on any of Atlantic's AKs let alone the CG556. I'll just have to keep looking around.
@@Limp_Bizkiteer In robski's video he bent the retainer up with a cartridge, i went through on the manual that came with mine and your not supposed too do that. The way it says too do that is too take the entire gas tube off and rotate too wherever
@@Limp_Bizkiteerarms of America...WBP 556...POLISH
That blue stuff is oxidized copper. I get that on my ARs even with good ammo. If it was corrosion it’d be everywhere because bluing is a lighter finish.
The oxidized copper fouling is not a concern. The exterior of the comp is covered in rust though. Zastava did reach out. They said they were unsure why it rusted the way it did and offered to replace it if I sent them an email.
I have a M-70 7.62x39 anytime I reached out to Zastava, they wete very receptive.
Mine with Walnut furniture looks great with US Palm FDE Stainless Steel Latch Cage Magazines. @dfwguncleaning7523
Just took my m90 out to the range,first 60rds had a few ftf but after 120rds ran no problem.
That’s seems to be par for the course with these.
What was gas setting for 60rds )2 or 3) ?....heard factory recommends "3"
Failures to feed or failures to fire? Mine has had 3 failures to feed and 2 failures to eject within 40 rounds
Unfortunately i haven’t shot more than 100 rounds yet, but everything I’ve shot (62 gr Winchester m855) fed and ejected correctly. Even on setting two, which is the highest I’ve set it yet, recoil was manageable and brass was ejected 20~ feet consistently. Whatever problem they had, they may have corrected it by now.
I hate to be the one to tell you but….. that white stuff around your rivet hole, you got screwed!
How much are these going for?
I need 100 of those to buy ok
Honestly it seems like Zastava is giving us commercial grade parts these days.
damn dude. Nice combloc collection
Thank you. Stay tuned. I have a fresh cosmoline soaked SKS and milled WBP Jack pistol on the way.
You got yourself a Monday gun, maybe Tuesday.
The zastava polymer mags fit loose-ish from factory for a few reasons. 1st, polymer mags swell when loaded, did you notice the wobble almost disappear when loaded? 2nd, they are designed to fit other rifles potentially. No idea which they fit though.
The polymer mags are still pretty loose when loaded. My guess is, they are made this way to fit a wider variety of 5.56 AK rifles. They almost fit in my Galil.
@@dfwguncleaning7523 They seemed to fit more tightly in mine, little movement without some effort. Ak magwells aren't designed with support like many western rifles. Doesn't seem to cause any problems with feeding, the exception being I.O. , century, bubba, and some pioneers.
No doubt about AK magwell design. I’m confident that it’s going to run the Galil mags too.
Thanks for sharing. Man those rivets. Rivet man needs an @ss kicking! Hope it runs well and holds up for ya, Those problems be damned!
👍 It’s just cosmetic. I’ve seen much worse rivets on other peoples new Zastava guns recently.
Thank you so much for putting wooding furniture on there. That hogue might be comfory but it's fugly. W so much suprlus handguards, whyyyy zasta? 922r part or not
Gbo
Actually the hogue looks pretty damn good all blacked out AK… but each to their own
Where did you buy the wood handguard?
Apex I believe. I found the ferrule on reddit.
Good job. I think I’ll stick with a well made Mini-14
Hard to argue with that
If only my mini 14 didn’t jam every time I shoot it and not able to hit steel at 100 yards on a tripod
@@micahmartenson8547 Try a quadpod
We’re u on setting #2 throughout the whole video?
Yes I was
what magazine were you using at th-cam.com/video/Vat2Ysj78rE/w-d-xo.html
email Zastava and get that rivet guy a smacking
Zastava actually reached out to me. Their response was that the rivet is fine. Mechanically, I’m sure it is. Cosmetically, it’s sloppy work on a $1k+ rifle.
Vz61 vid?
It’s coming. 32acp isn’t exactly economical at the moment.
I bet it’s 50-50 at best with a Galil mag
My M90 is such a piece of shit I have sent it back to Zastava twice and they pretend nothing is wrong with it, never doing business with them again.
I have not been impressed with the build quality given the price tag. The rivet work is just sloppy, which would be understandable on a gun costing hundreds less. As it stands though, I wouldn’t buy it again.
Damn. That sucks to hear. I really want one, but might just opt for the WBP Fox in 7.62 instead.
@@radishfox308 FB and WBP all the way!
AKs are the only fighting rifle I trust but I just can't get behind a AK shooting 5.56 it's almost a sin a abomination 😂 AKs shoot 7.62×39 just the way it is that's a AK that woke up one morning and decided it was gay 😂😂😮😮
Yeah but ammo costs and they are super soft recoil
The Saiga 223 /5.56 is a better buy.
But can you reliably find mags for it? I thought the 556 saigas used proprietary mags that were difficult to obtain
@@AT-xr8qh i got an AR15 mag conversion so no issue
@@AT-xr8qh Mags are not difficult to find a Google that found some I personally did the mag conversion because I have so many AR magazines
Shooting tula will rust your gun..
I’ve shot 10k+ rounds of Tula and never experienced this.
When ? Ive been using Tula for 25 years on my Vepr Saiga, & SKS no rust anywhere. I clean and inspect after every outing though.
idk, kinda sounds like nitpicky crybaby stuff. Maybe next time you oughta get an AR instead. BTW: you can wipe the white stuff around the rivet off with some oil (ask me how I know).
Damn man, you sound super tough and cool.