Sonic Games That're Trapped On Dead Consoles

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  • @simtek3475
    @simtek3475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +397

    Apparently there’s some legal issues with Sonic Pocket Adventure that prevent SEGA from even mentioning the game ever again. Ian Flynn said that he wasn’t allowed to have the game featured in any way shape or form in the Sonic Encyclo-Speed-Ia released in 2021, when literally every other Sonic game ever was mentioned in it.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      It's because SNK developed it I'm pretty sure. They might have joint ownership. (Though I don't get why SNK wouldn't work with them on that, it's literally something they get 0 money on if they don't let SEGA use it.)

    • @Turbulation1
      @Turbulation1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      There's also the fact Knuckle's theme from Sonic 3 is in the game, might not seem like a big deal, but considering Sega seems to be scared of legal issues with the whole S3 Music Situation which caused them to just replace it with the S&K theme for origins, they would likely take note of this song too.
      And they could also just simply hire a romhacker to remove/replace the song, like Namco usually does to get around legal issues, but Sega I guess, tries to keep their hands clean?

    • @PercyPanleo
      @PercyPanleo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@@polocatfan It really sucks that they couldn't mention it at all, since it was technically the first Dimps game.
      I suspect the issue is due to the SNK that made Pocket Adventure and the SNK that exists today being two seperate companies. Back in 2001 SNK went bankrupt and all of their IP was transferred to Playmore (With the CEO and most of the key developers on Pocket Adventure having left a year prior to form Dimps)
      I think the issue with working with SNK on it may be less because of the game itself and more because of it being released on a Neo Geo console. SNK (Playmore) seems to be very strict with the Neo Geo brand, with, as far as I'm aware, it only being used since 2001 for At-Games style devices, the Wii Virtual Console, Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, and Switch eShop rereleases of MVS games, and the pretty disastrous Neo Geo X (Which actually may be the main source of this apparent strictness)

    • @shalpp
      @shalpp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@PercyPanleowell don't forget the out of nowhere release of megaman battle and fighters

    • @svcross-do
      @svcross-do 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Sonic pocket adventure is the best Sonic Handheld game. It is a must play.

  • @RariettyC
    @RariettyC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    The image in my head of a Sega exec at a press event just going up to the mic and saying "Sonic '06" and nothing else to announce a rerelease, in a moment akin to that time at E3 1995 when a Sony exec said "299" and basically preemptively killed the more expensive Sega Saturn, is hilarious

    • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
      @Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ZU WE MAMA

    • @Carsonj13
      @Carsonj13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Since when is 299 a cheaper price than 299?

    • @sonc07
      @sonc07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Carsonj13the saturn was selling for 399

    • @Carsonj13
      @Carsonj13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sonc07 At first.... But by the end of '95, all 32-bit systems were the exact same price: 299. The point I was alluding to is that price had absolutely nothing to do with demise of the Saturn. It's a common misconception that people make for some reason, even though there are plenty of instances where the more expensive console outsold its competition. The Jaguar for instance was 149 in '95, did it "kill" the PlayStation, or even the 3DO for that matter? Nope.

    • @MattTOB618
      @MattTOB618 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​​@@Carsonj13 That's because the Atari Jaguar was already out for two years by '95, only ended up having 50 licensed games of VERY mixed quality to its name, and had less overall brand recognition than their competitors, while the recognition they DID have was rather negative (they were the ones who made _E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial,_ the game that almost singlehandedly killed the gaming industry).

  • @inktendo
    @inktendo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Sega should have ported SegaSonic for the DS/3DS or Wii U and emulated the trackball on the touch screen

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      That actually might've worked

    • @carlosemilio5180
      @carlosemilio5180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Steam deck mousepad

    • @sonicloverlol
      @sonicloverlol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or the black kigte

    • @brickmaster-the-og
      @brickmaster-the-og 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ps4/5 mousepad

    • @illford6921
      @illford6921 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brickmaster-the-ogps5 one is too small tho

  • @danyo5786
    @danyo5786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Sonic and the Black Knight was pretty good from what I played: granted I wasn't using motion controls (dolphin), and at it's core lies a pretty simple and fun game. They should release it along with Secret rings, and just ditch the motion controls entirely, update the graphics, make them run at a higher frame rate, and fix some jank.

    • @ridgenyan-botxv367
      @ridgenyan-botxv367 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They could pretty easily do a switch port for the games. Similar to the Wii version of Star wars the force unleashed

    • @tobylopez4514
      @tobylopez4514 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      black knight is amazing

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Black knight is legitimately a top 5 sonic game if you don’t use motion controls

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    The one Sonic game rated 10/10 by IGN is a lost gem lmao
    Also it's a bit unfair to just slap Black Knight into the same bag as Secret Rings given it gave a lot of improvement to its formula. I'd say it's slightly more likely to be brought back for goodwill.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      yeah Black Knight is fine.

    • @MMPBY483
      @MMPBY483 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s saying Sonic The Hedgehog Pocket Adventure is a lost gem! 🤩 maybe you might be a gem!

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MMPBY483 I saw the game being played. It looked fun.
      So it makes sense to call it a lost gem since it's an obscure but actually pretty good title.

  • @l0pxny
    @l0pxny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    i'm so glad you talked about both segasonic arcade game and knuckles' chaotix. definitely should be ported and worked on.

    • @TetranDakker
      @TetranDakker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i don't think anyone cares about knuckles' chatoix. even kiro himself mentions this fact.

    • @SquallyCoin5664
      @SquallyCoin5664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TetranDakkerI care about Chaotix.

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The trackball is hard to emulate on consoles though...

    • @SquallyCoin5664
      @SquallyCoin5664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markofthewolvessucks8930 The only chances they’ve had were to rerelease on any of the DS or 3DS line of systems, Wii U, or Steam Deck, and they’ve messed it up.
      A mobile port could work hypothetically but knowing Sega’s other mobile games, it’d be littered with ads.

  • @Cool_Kid95
    @Cool_Kid95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    I really want Knuckle's Chaotix to be remastered like the other mainline classics. It sucks so bad, but it deserves it!

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      i dint get why people hate knuckles chaotix... i mean,the controls arent that good, but the game itself is so fun, beautiful, and overall, have you seen a better looking sonic game in the time that chaktix was released? knuckles chaotix had ones of my most favourite soundtracks of all sonic soundtracks, ever. the levels are just wonderful, but i mean, the mechanics are SUPPOSTED to be hard cause the two characters are connected with a ring together, right?
      i love that game so much..

    • @Cool_Kid95
      @Cool_Kid95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@markfaites I actually quite enjoy the ring tether. It's only so horrible because of the level design.

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Cool_Kid95 yeah the level design is a bit unorganized and massive so thats one complaint, but overal, the game is literal eyecandy if you dont have nerves or a good memory!

    • @Cool_Kid95
      @Cool_Kid95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@markfaites I find the levels empty and boring. I'd love to see the mechanics and characters used in a more traditional Sonic Game.

    • @markfaites
      @markfaites 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Cool_Kid95 oooh- well its better for you than it is for me, i have a very bad memory, short term, and get disoriwnted quickly, so i find myself usually getting stuck on most of knuckles chaotix levels sometimes. i never do in any other sonic game, plus there are tons of levels and acts in chaotix

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I really appreciate how Kiro factors the "not received well" as one of the possible reasons for no rereleases. People be like "Why Sega chose Colors instead of Unleashed when Colors sucked" forgetting that Colors, for several years, was seen as a very good Sonic game with lots of positive reviews, especially outside the fandom, which Colors Ultimate was capitalizing on with the success of the first Sonic movie. It was not until the recent years where the fandom perception changed. Meanwhile Unleashed scored BADLY and was scorned as one of the worst Sonic games by many people (mediocre at best, due to Werehog), especially outside the fandom.

  • @altoggiv737
    @altoggiv737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Pocket Adventure has a better chance than you might think. There were 2 Neo Geo Pocket Collection games released not too long ago, which also include 3rd party releases (e.g the Mega Man game), so there's a chance that, if a third volume gets announced, Pocket Adventure might be a part of the lineup
    Also I'm pretty sure the original Rush was actually on the Wii U virtual console.

    • @StudioInkblot
      @StudioInkblot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what I was thinking. This isn't a channel I watch regularly (I think I've seen a couple videos), but that part made me really question the level of research put in

    • @newguy371
      @newguy371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Rush was not on the eShop. It was mostly first party titles. There were probably plans on adding the games at a later date, but due to the system being a flop, those plans probably fell through.

    • @vini64
      @vini64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@StudioInkblotWell if you had done any research yourself you'd find out Sonic Rush hasn't been released on the Wii U VC...

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sonic Pocket definitely deserves more exposure.

  • @LiquidSolidus9000
    @LiquidSolidus9000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I've got a ton of nostalgia for Sonic R. I had it on PC and have memories playing it after school in 1st grade in the family computer room, and then heading back to my room to watch DBZ on Toonami :P

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The weird (and slightly ironic) thing about Sonic Boom games is that the games were suppose to promote cartoon
    But because of how bad the games were handles, it caused the opposite effect, having people stay way from the Sonic Boom brand just because of how bad the games were
    In short, if the sonic boom games didn’t exist, then the cartoon would have probably gotten more popular in general

  • @Guy-May-Cry
    @Guy-May-Cry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    I think authorities would prefer if we kept this disclosed, but a widespread rumor surrounding Knuckles Chaotix is that the game isn't trapped on the 32x, moreso it was imprisoned there as a corporal punishment - most likely for it introducing Charmy the Bee - however much speculation is on the topic. Any other ideas on why though?

    • @gangstasonic97573
      @gangstasonic97573 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Us Charmy stans are oppressed. We must rescue our child!

    • @spicybreadproductions1972
      @spicybreadproductions1972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@gangstasonic97573 we must fight for the most oppressed race of all; Charmy Stans

  • @silveramyknux241
    @silveramyknux241 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    13:27
    I don’t think Secret Rings was that bad, and I really liked Black Knight.

    • @Robotta
      @Robotta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, Secret Rings was mediocre but Black Knight is a pretty good game once you play without motion controls. A re-release of both with normal controller support would fix the controls entirely.

    • @silveramyknux241
      @silveramyknux241 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Robotta I just played the game on Wii again, and I still think the game is great on Wii.

  • @xamp_exclammark
    @xamp_exclammark 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sonic 06 is currently in the Xbox marketplace, it was put there in 2022 for 5 bucks.Would love the treatment for Shadow.

  • @user-oc7yu1uo1d
    @user-oc7yu1uo1d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That sonic arcade game looks super cute and the spritework is awesome.

  • @tuna6747
    @tuna6747 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    DAMN the moment this video came out I was trying to emulate Sonic Unleashed on Xenia. What a timing.

    • @Dzaimon8562
      @Dzaimon8562 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's on xbox

    • @tuna6747
      @tuna6747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dzaimon8562 I know but Im not gonna buy a 500 dollar console just to play Sonic Unleashed and there are mods for Unleashed on emulation like turn off the battle music and no medal requariment. But the damn game crashes every 5 minutes.

  • @mahirutsuyuzaki
    @mahirutsuyuzaki 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sonic 06 actually got relisted on the Xbox 360 store sometime recently but I doubt they'd add backwards compatibility even though that'd be legendary

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ngl I'd kill for that lol. If Plumber's Don't wear ties can be in Modern Consoles then So can 06.

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That's tragic seeing these Sonic The Hedgehog games won't ever be rereleased ever again 😔

  • @YoshiTheOreo
    @YoshiTheOreo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sonic Battle NEEDS a comeback.

  • @pattersong6637
    @pattersong6637 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think you could see Sonic Shuffle if and only if they ever do a Dreamcast Mini. You need like 20 games to fill a system like that and you're gonna need a few deep cuts to fill the list out. Same with Sonic R and a Saturn Mini.

    • @FlyingDuckMan360
      @FlyingDuckMan360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @pattersong6637 I'm one of those people who's hoping for both a Saturn Mini and a Dreamcast Mini. For the former, in addition to the Sonic games, some other IPs I'm hoping for include Baku Baku Animal, Bug!, Clockwork Knight, and NIGHTS. For the Dreamcast, I'm hoping for the two Sonic Adventure games and Shuffle, as well as Sega Bass Fishing, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Toy Commander, Chu Chu Rocket, and Ooga Booga.

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FlyingDuckMan360 Saturn Mini is much harder just because so many of the Saturn's best games are only in Japanese. That said, in addition to the games you listed, the Panzer Dragoon games should be on Saturn Mini. Your Dreamcast Mini list is really solid, but there are a bunch you can add like Space Channel 5, Powerstone, and Ikaruga.
      It gets hard quick to come up with 20-ish really good Saturn games IN ENGLISH for a Saturn Mini, which is one of the reasons I'm pessimistic about it though I'd love it. Dreamcast Mini should be easy.

    • @Laynel8
      @Laynel8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pattersong6637 Perhaps maybe having 1 or 2 of Capcom's 2D fighting games on the Saturn mini would be cool, since at the time those versions of Capcom's arcade ports ran and played better on the Saturn compared to their PlayStation counterparts.

  • @megapokesonicx
    @megapokesonicx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Black Knight was goated honestly and the motion controls were actually decent
    Still wish these games would see the light again

  • @RaitoADV
    @RaitoADV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be fair, Neo Geo Pocket Color games have been re-released recently by SNK for the Nintendo Switch and Steam. We even got some Capcom NGPC games like the SNK vs Capcom games, and Mega Man Battle & Fighters.
    Maybe SNK can approach SEGA for a re-release deal? 🤷

  • @Rebateman
    @Rebateman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video not only made me find out Sonic Shuffle exists, but also that the logo seems to be potentially the inspiration of the Pokemon Shuffle logo.

  • @kylejones8289
    @kylejones8289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    While Secret Rings is pretty hated, and was unplayably awful in my opinion, Black Knight does not deserve to be painted with that brush. It has its fans, and it was pretty fun to play honestly, with one of the best stories in the franchise. It isn't amazing, but it's not a bad game either.

  • @tepigthegamer55
    @tepigthegamer55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the first sonic games i played were shadow in my neighbor's house, sonic 4 episode 2 in my dad's ipad and i end up owning sonic riders zero gravity and black knight for the wii.
    is wild how much i love those games and the franchise as a whole after those games being my introduction to sonic.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I want rush remakes SO BAD, theyre so good and really fun. Plus the only issue is emulating the dual screen effect

    • @IvoryCaffeine_
      @IvoryCaffeine_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Shouldn’t be too bad, the stage screen can just go up and down with sonic like the other 2D games

    • @ridgenyan-botxv367
      @ridgenyan-botxv367 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@IvoryCaffeine_ honestly, it's probably best to think of the rush games as having a single giant screen as opposed to two for figuring out how to port it

    • @markdebruyn1212
      @markdebruyn1212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How you gonna solve the touch screen stuff, some of thise special stafes are brutal

    • @nicksokolowski7709
      @nicksokolowski7709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@markdebruyn1212Capcom already did solve this problem with the release of the Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection by having the touch screen be controlled by the right stick.

    • @RosieUV
      @RosieUV 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Make it a mobile game in portrait mode, then you can use the touch screen capabilities. The problem then is how the controls would fit, but I'm sure there's a way.

  • @fivejedis
    @fivejedis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Sonic Advance absloutely needs a collection of some sort, or at the very least add them to the Game Boy Advance NSO. I could potentially see the Sonic Story Book games released if they were reworked to remove motion controls but that's highly unlikely.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You know what Sonic Shuffle was still a fun game. Would be cool to see the concept come back. Maybe do something more with the cards, like building a deck to use during the gameboard or boss battles.

  • @JonyPlayz1
    @JonyPlayz1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Interesting video! I honestly think the Rush series should really be the ones ported to Steam at least, they are so underrated

  • @wilmeister123
    @wilmeister123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I shall not stand for storybook slander

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Leave the solid story and music for both games alone. Black Knight has better controls/gameplay.
      I cannot defend Secret Rings god awful controls/gameplay and mission structure. Party mode was fun though.

    • @Picy64
      @Picy64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Sonic171Kyeah Secret Rings's controls only get fun after like an hour of grinding points to unlock skills

  • @garsrandom4358
    @garsrandom4358 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Goldeneye 64 is not that obscure, it’s even considered one of, if not THE best n64 FPS game

  • @ElectrikStatik900
    @ElectrikStatik900 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh c'mon, Sonic and the Black Knight isn't THAT bad.

  • @datguy2345
    @datguy2345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The sonic rush games are GOATED

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I only like the first one. The waterbike in the sequel was annoyingly STUPID.

    • @smb2fds
      @smb2fds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Sonic171KI remember you

    • @smb2fds
      @smb2fds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      *game

  • @FlyingDuckMan360
    @FlyingDuckMan360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    6:12 - Agreed. For a sequel to Sonic Shuffle, what I'd like to see in it is the same gameplay (drawing cards to move across the board and battle enemies, collecting seven gems, and the game ending when all seven are collected), but with improved AI (less likely to take your best cards even when they have the exact same ones), new playable characters (Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Blaze, and Silver), and elements more in line with the Sonic franchise (the Chaos Emeralds taking the place of the Precioustones, Dr. Eggman's Badniks taking the places of the Precioustone Monsters, and worlds like Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Casino Night).

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    >Nobody cares about Knuckles Chaotix
    That hit me so hard because it’s so true, I’m a huge apologist for the game, you are always tethered to your partner, each lead character plays differently with Charmy being one of the most powerful characters in gaming (props if you get the reference), you can accrue negative ring count debt if you press a certain character to get unstuck your characters if you ever get stuck lol which I find hilarious. One of my favorite songs from the game is Marina Madness/Seascape. It also has my favorite special stages in the classic series.

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fellow whoisthisgit viewer? 👀

    • @Chrono-and-Co
      @Chrono-and-Co 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@extremmefan7305fellow game apologist viewer?

    • @extremmefan7305
      @extremmefan7305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Chrono-and-Co Oh hey, I watch him too

    • @Chrono-and-Co
      @Chrono-and-Co 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@extremmefan7305 yooooo

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Marina Madness is a great chill song and yeah I did really like the Special Stages too

  • @MoonSarito
    @MoonSarito 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm probably one of the few weirdos who had a good time with Knuckles Chaotix and even prefers him over to Sonic CD.

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Here's hoping this video ages poorly. There have been rumors of rereleases for several years now, most notably Sonic Heroes. I would be surprised if we didn't get any of these back over the next few years, especially with the impending gap between major releases. Frontiers 2 is still a few years off, and with Sega interested in "keeping the ball rolling", a re-release/collection would make perfect sense in 2024 or 2025.

  • @Natsu-jf6br
    @Natsu-jf6br 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i really wish sega have some care about sonic heroes because like you said it was your first sonic game you've played in the sonic series and this is applies to me too.
    heck, i think it's considered the introduction to the sonic series for most of 2000s sonic fans myself included.

    • @MattTOB618
      @MattTOB618 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was my first Sonic game as well, alongside _Sonic Advance 3._

    • @Natsu-jf6br
      @Natsu-jf6br 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MattTOB618 welcome to sonic 2000s club my dude!! 👍😊

  • @unclemogi
    @unclemogi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Luckily regarding Sonic 06, we have Project06 to look forward too on PC. Though I think it's technically cheating to say when it comes to this list, since it's a unofficial fan made remaster lol

    • @leeartlee915
      @leeartlee915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the thing is, once you mention “we have the PC blah, blah, blah”, you’ve literally opened up the possibility to play ALL games ever made. This video is talking about “legit” ways of playing these games without the use of original hardware.

  • @DanialProhozdenia
    @DanialProhozdenia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sonic Unleashed: hold my 5/5 score

    • @Sorvetedchocolat
      @Sorvetedchocolat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It isn't trapped. It's already playable on the Xbox Series and even has a 60fps patch

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is trap on Xbox. D:

  • @donstarplayz
    @donstarplayz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Unleashed and Generations have been stuck in PS3 era purgatory for some time now, so I’d like to see them get a remaster. I know that Gens has a PC port, but from what I’ve heard, it runs super bad, so could still use an upgrade. As well as the original Dreamcast versions of the Adventure games; which to my knowledge, have never been properly ported apart from PC mods for DX. I’d really like to see those ported/remade/remastered, since DX just doesn’t cut it.

    • @evdestroy4121
      @evdestroy4121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Gens PC is fine, also the game runs on Xbox Series X and you can still buy it digitally

    • @donstarplayz
      @donstarplayz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@evdestroy4121 fair enough. I’ve just only heard bad things about it. And anyway, a remaster would certainly do it good. Especially since they’ve seemingly perfected Classic Sonic in 3D for Superstars.

    • @Sonic171K
      @Sonic171K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We’re still waiting.

    • @NateRD90
      @NateRD90 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They're both backwards compatible on the Xbox One/Series X, at 60 FPS. And Generations is on PC, and still has an extremely strong modding community.

    • @SonicfanaticOfficialGD
      @SonicfanaticOfficialGD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donstarplayz Unleash also is in Xbox Series S and run in 60 fps

  • @PokemonRules141
    @PokemonRules141 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Imagine a rerelease of Sonic ‘06 that fixed all the issues with the original and then they put in a toggle to put all those issues back in.

  • @dellosayshello5405
    @dellosayshello5405 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    sonic gems collection really had a lot of missed potential

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sonic Pocket Adventure would’ve been perfect for the 3DS Virtual Console. I remember when NGPC titles were announced for the 3DS VC, but they sadly never came.

    • @gjergjaurelius9798
      @gjergjaurelius9798 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That person he mentioned on owning a neo Geo pocket color....🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @GearlessJoe44
    @GearlessJoe44 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ive wanted sonic heroes to be ported, remastered, get a sequel, just whatever for so long. Its also my first sonic game so the nostalgia is strong

  • @OrangeToadGamer
    @OrangeToadGamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Just wanna comment to say I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the word *That're* ever 💀
    *Amazing video as always though, would love to see Rush or Heroes ported/remastered someday*

    • @kirotalksyt
      @kirotalksyt  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It might not be proper English lol

    • @SauceBoss14
      @SauceBoss14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      New contraction just dropped

    • @akirafuudou2037
      @akirafuudou2037 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SauceBoss14 It's not new, but it has never been officially accepted as real English. If you might happen to be writing dialogue for a character who uses much more colloquial speech, you could get away with it. But absolutely don't use "that're" formally or on a real document.

  • @KHloreExpert
    @KHloreExpert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a big fan of Sonic R and Shadow the Hedgehog I'd certainly prefer not to forget them.
    Sonic R is definitely too short and the controls take a little getting used to but those controls definitely aren't bad like the internet mob likes to parrot. It's the only racing game in the franchise that uses the footrace format allowing for more creative track layouts, multiple interwoven pathways like the classic games, and the use of character specific abilities the latter of which didn't make canon sense because Sonic and Metal Sonic are way too fast for any of their competitors but so what, the other classic games and other games since all follow the same gameplay logic.
    Shadow the Hedgehog is fun. The gunplay works well without complicating the controls and has a decently varied arsenal. The missions certainly range in quality but are also fun regardless, a clear improvement on the Chaotix gameplay from Heroes which was also fun although sometimes tedious. Shadow controls well too: They clearly used Heroes as the base and as a result the top speed is still amped a bit too high with slippery control but this game added a mechanic that stops Shadow dead in his tracks if while running he approaches a ledge and it also slowed him down a little while jumping allowing for more precise landings. They also added the Spindash in place of Heroes' Rocket Accel which is more iconic and has its uses and they also tweaked the homing attack which works really well. Sure the story was more edgy than serious at times but it's an E10+ video game from a franchise that's certainly touched on some serious topics but is generally and at its core a children's cartoon about animal people with powers and magic jewelry so I don't understand why anyone expects a narrative masterpiece. I've never understood why it matters to people if the characters lightly swear or not although I do find it funny that the use of the words "Damn" and "Hell" by a few members of the cast is a common criticism about this game that the internet mob parrots but that same mob (I presume there's significant overlap) praise the Japanese dub of Sonic X in part for it's use of swear words that were all censored out in the English dub.
    I'd love to see these two games ported to modern hardware perhaps with minor bugfixes, nothing game-changing, although porting as is would be great too. Alternatively or additionally one or both of these getting a sequel, either in a spiritual or literal sense, would also be exciting.

    • @UltimateInkling
      @UltimateInkling 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Highly agree on the shadow the hedgehog one its so fun imo.

  • @tazqball1605
    @tazqball1605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like to see how these games can be relevant in today's modern gaming systems as either re-releases or remasters or straight from the ground up remakes like Crash N sane trilogy and Spyro Reignited trilogy.

  • @Giggles_iJest
    @Giggles_iJest 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hold your tongue over the storybook games. Those were my childhood ✊️😔💯🔥

  • @NovikInfinite
    @NovikInfinite 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Someone fixed Sonic Free Riders a little while back
    They’re fucking awesome

  • @garsrandom4358
    @garsrandom4358 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    « Sonic 06 is never getting rereleased »
    Sonic Project-06 (a fan remake that proves the game has a lot of potential): am I a joke to you

  • @awesomeguy2009
    @awesomeguy2009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, such a missed opportunity for Chaotix to not be in Origins Plus. Even as a 100% bonus or anything smh 🤦

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Charii5 pointed this out when making his "Everything wrong with Sonic Origins". He noticed that the collection has OST of Knuckles' Chaotix, but not the game itself. It became very hard for him because there were no re-releases for it or modern emulators for it. So, he had to play it with real Sega 32X hardware.

    • @nithpro1385
      @nithpro1385 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      there are 32x emulators lol

    • @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035
      @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm pretty sure most Mega Drive emulators work as 32x emulators, you just need to set a few things up

    • @tuluflulu
      @tuluflulu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kega fusion can play it with no issues. Though, I'm not sure people even know what that is.

    • @zacharygustafson8714
      @zacharygustafson8714 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I played Chaotix on an emulator just fine a few months ago.

  • @billchiper1628
    @billchiper1628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am happy that you included Sonic Rush in it because I just finished the whole story of Sonic Rush on my Nintendo DS lite.
    I got the game and the Ds lite in 2023 summer but I just loved playing that game except some zones that had me killed every time and put me to game over screen. But other than that Sonic Rush soundtrack is so good, the zone music. It's just so good.

  • @Castcoder
    @Castcoder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair, Sega technically did re-release Sonic 06 when they randomly re-listed the game a few years ago on the Xbox 360 Marketplace.

  • @ChrisSmith-tw1mo
    @ChrisSmith-tw1mo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sonic Shuffle, Knuckles Chaotix, Advance 1-3, Sonic Battle

  • @blueknightskeleton8424
    @blueknightskeleton8424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "No one cares about Knuckles' Chaotix"
    So i guess i'm invisible

  • @kyethememer9836
    @kyethememer9836 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Sonic games that I most want to play are 'the adventure games and heroes' I'm still praying for quality ports of the games on modern consoles.

  • @igorpoco2420
    @igorpoco2420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have 2 Neo Geo Pockets and I can tell you that the joystick is one of the most fantastic things I've ever tried. Sonic Pocket Adventure is mandatory on the system.

    • @svcross-do
      @svcross-do 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I really love that Sonic Game.

  • @drybonesmunchakoopas5143
    @drybonesmunchakoopas5143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hold on no sonic and the black knight was freaking great. people need to stop judging it off secret of the rings

  • @Mankey619
    @Mankey619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So many Sonic games that’ll be forever be trapped into the depths of their own console exclusives for all eternity. It’ll be nice to see them get a re release, if Sega themselves care about them.

  • @richardkirkland6805
    @richardkirkland6805 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic 06 "It's not getting rereleased"
    Me, an intellectual: If you're only counting official rereleases, then yeah, it's not coming back. If you're counting fan works, though, it's getting remade from the ground up in the Unity Engine. It's called Project 06.

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Knuckles 32X had a pretty alright soundtrack imo. Sonic Rush's OST was mediocore i guess

  • @thetoondevil
    @thetoondevil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think with the ds games, the only way I can see them working on modern consoles is with the switch's screen options.
    Some of their games you can turn the system vertically to simulate some of the arcade titles. But this was a feature I rarely used, but it's the only way I can see games like sonic rush being functional.

  • @Chrono-and-Co
    @Chrono-and-Co 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kiro I just wanted to tell you that your content is so good and high quality that it would make jon tron and splash dash shiver in their boots.I cant wait for the next upload!
    Edit:I love obscure sonic games and I have so much nostalgia for sonic R and the advanced series.

  • @Futuredynamo
    @Futuredynamo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Knuckles Chaotix isn't as good as the other 2D Sonic games, but (speaking as someone who got a 32X and that game back in the day, and I still have them) it is a lot better in my opinion than a lot of people give it credit for. And frankly I'd rather play it over some of the lesser Sonic games from the 3D era.

  • @T725db
    @T725db 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the minority here: I Love Knuckles Chaotix and wish it would get another shot , whether that be Christian Whitehead- ish re-release or a plain port. Definitely not an amazing game but I love it for it’s color palette, characters and music.

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fans "Iizuka, could we see a re-release of the Advance games, please?"
    Iizuka "no, because pixel art games won't be viable within 10 years... Also buy the greatest hits of the original games for billionth time, with Origins!"
    I wouldn't say the Storybook games are awful, because Black Knight is quite fun with an actual controller. Plus it's boss fights are far more engaging than the Titan fights from Frontiers, given that rather than holding down the shoulder buttons to parry attacks for as long as you need, leading to the game doing the rest, you actually have to practice and time your parries to get the desired effect. Not mention it's last really amazing story we got from the series.

  • @jubeasta0135
    @jubeasta0135 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Emulation is looking real good rn

  • @Nathaniel_E_Dearing
    @Nathaniel_E_Dearing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With Sonic Pocket Adventure, there's a chance that if SNK were to do a NeoGeo Pocket Color Selection Vol.3, it might be among the titles included. With the Sonic Advance series, a THQ Nordic title is on Game Boy Online, so Nintendo could therefore untangle the U.S. rights for a GBA Online release. And with Knuckles Chaotix, there is music from it advertised as part of some Sonic Origins DLC, and 32X titles might be mixed in to SEGA Genesis Online in the future.

  • @Newhouse56
    @Newhouse56 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Black Knight is good tf

  • @borttheattorney6012
    @borttheattorney6012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro wants beef with Black Knight fans

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sega may want us to forget Shadow, but it's not that bad of a game. It's only those stupid Ark levels that have you scouring for 1 or 2 random enemies with no minimap, everything looks the same, and sometimes they just don't spawn.

  • @spearmintpony7105
    @spearmintpony7105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:33 Canonically, it was the first Sonic game to introduce Eggman's modern design.

  • @ivoryvt
    @ivoryvt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually love Knuckles' Chaotix. That game is unironically fun to play, and I love it's aesthetic and music.

  • @gangstasonic97573
    @gangstasonic97573 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love Knuckles’ Chaotix with my heart and soul and I will die on that hill.

    • @Ponifex
      @Ponifex 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's aesthetically gorgeous, features a fantastic soundtrack (even by the sky-high standards of its origin series), and boasts one of the most uniquely fascinating playable prototypes of the 16-bit era. Certainly not meritless from a purely artistic perspective.
      Shame about the actual game, though.

  • @darksonic5theochedgehog218
    @darksonic5theochedgehog218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly I feel like the Original Sonic adventure should have been here, I know Sonic Adventure DX exists but I’m pretty sure most of use want to play the original that was only for the Dreamcast

  • @jasefrybo2232
    @jasefrybo2232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic Unleashed sitting in the corner: Guess no one cares about me

  • @maccamachine
    @maccamachine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need a sonic advance collection so bad those are some of my favorite sonic games ever. Rush is also one of my favorites but I can still play it on my ds

  • @ChrisStoneinator
    @ChrisStoneinator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By what metric can a DS game be considered trapped? Guarantee you have one down the back of your sofa.

  • @SonicfanaticOfficialGD
    @SonicfanaticOfficialGD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sonic 06 it was in the xbox store (XONE AND XS;X360 COMPATIBILITY)
    But they removed it and we shouldn't ask why.

    • @yomang6614
      @yomang6614 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine if that shit was on Game Pass 💀

  • @andyz6306
    @andyz6306 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I care about Knuckles Chaotix, I'm sure more people care about it than all the Game Gear games people shit on.

  • @supermariof0521
    @supermariof0521 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The closest thing to a rerelease that "Sonic Heroes" and "Shadow The Hedgehog" got, was with the XBOX versions being made backwards compatible with the XBOX 360.

    • @pvzmariosonica8fan
      @pvzmariosonica8fan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The GameCube version of Heroes can also be played on a Wii if your model supports it

  • @sonicsillies
    @sonicsillies 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i miss sonic rush. years ago my brother and i were getting rid of a bunch of DS games and that was one of them :( i also would love to see a remake of adventure. ive never played it because i wasnt a 90s kid...colors was my first sonic game 😭🫶🏻 im glad that got ported to the switch but lets be honest it couldve been so much better! ive been trying to replay it and its just...eh. SORRY FOR THE RANT LOL

  • @ProbablyAlmond
    @ProbablyAlmond 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God I hope 06 gets a remaster that’s actually half good

  • @GeflGabe
    @GeflGabe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The DS games were just announced for the switch. Cant wait to listen to those rush tunes again.

  • @vegasvanga5442
    @vegasvanga5442 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Preserving Sega titles is a moot point, because they seem to deliberately turn a blind eye to emulation. They literally allow people to sell ROMhacks on Steam. Sega Smash Pack's code straight up provides instructions on how to illicitly use the emulator to play other Genesis and Master System titles not included in that compilation. Even Kega Fusion was developed by a Sega employee

  • @zadock6370
    @zadock6370 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for giving me a list of "must buy" sonic games

  • @macuser7048
    @macuser7048 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I would do is merge the two screens into one and make it widescreen to fit the Switch.

  • @wakuwakusonicpartolcar
    @wakuwakusonicpartolcar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    don't forget the only good unmodded version of SA1 stuck on dreamcast

  • @zokiamv
    @zokiamv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    12:10 Sonic P-06 by ChaosX fixed Sonic 06 finally

  • @sgoc9499
    @sgoc9499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah man didn't mention Sonic schoolhouse 💀

  • @catholiccontriversy
    @catholiccontriversy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd love to see Sonic 06 with the game breaking bugs and loading times fixed but others left in (like goat simulator). Never played it (yet), but I saw videos and it's wild.

    • @SonicfanaticOfficialGD
      @SonicfanaticOfficialGD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should try P-06 A fan remake of sonic 06 that isnt finished but keeps updating

  • @RainingBeanz
    @RainingBeanz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rush is my favourite handheld Sonic game. It’s sad that the only ways you can play it is on DS, 3DS, or emulation. Honestly, no one really talks about it anymore but it’s still great (Also even though no one really cares about Knuckles Chaotix, it’s soundtrack is SO GOOD) :)

  • @AleK0451
    @AleK0451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    usually fan patches being taken down is a sign sega has something in the works and the fact sonic 06 is just out on pc for free with huge updates and hasn't been taken down is proof they are never touching that game again

    • @markofthewolvessucks8930
      @markofthewolvessucks8930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet 06 is on the Xbox store right now lol .

    • @AleK0451
      @AleK0451 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markofthewolvessucks8930 in a completely untouched state and it's just been rotting on there for years, this doesn't mean anything

  • @midknightkoi6059
    @midknightkoi6059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:43 I hate when people shit on Shadow the Hedgehog for no reason. It's actually a fun game. I enjoyed it as a kid and as an adult. I beat it recently too lmao

  • @tommymaxey2665
    @tommymaxey2665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh man i remember i got Sonic Rush on my DS. I remember it took me so long to make it through the game. Eventually my game stopwd working because the used DS i got had corroded prongs and it messed up pretty much all of my ds games

  • @Arian5232
    @Arian5232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the rush series (including colours ds) could use the mouse on PC for the touchscreen, the ps4/5's touch pad and the switch touch screen, the only issue is for Xbox but they could just use tilt controls or something 😊

    • @pvzmariosonica8fan
      @pvzmariosonica8fan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe a cursor for Switch in docked mode. If Nintendo could make 3D World's cursor work on the Switch in docked mode, they can make it work for the Rush series plus Colors DS

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Storybook games could at least be revisited in concept, but with a more traditional control scheme. There is no reason being based on fairytales and stuff would require having waggle controls that suck. Just give it a boost style gameplay and go wild.