Was your HDR testing with LG C2 using HGIG tone mapping mode or dynamic tone mapping? Dynamic tone mapping artificially brightens darker parts of the image, which could explain why the C2 looked brighter than the Alienware.
Even with HGIG the C2 was brighter for me except for 2% window where my C2 can only get to 700ish nits and the Alienware can hit 1000, for whatever reason at 10% the alienware is like 450 nits while the LG can still hold 700 nits. Couple that with the size difference and the C2 is definitely the brighter one.
I still prefer the LG because of its smart TV functionality. I can go from gaming to hooking up my jailbroken 4k firestick to watch my favorite shows without a hitch. You can't do that on a computer monitor without doing a lot of extra shit to make it possible
Yes, it glows pink/purple/magenta even when the display is off. Horrible. QD OLEDs are dark-room only mastering monitors, not daytime. And that purple glow definitely does impact your perception of colour even when the scene is bright. There is NO WAY that is calibrated to a D65 white point if you measure it full-screen and keep the calibration meter pulled back away from the monitor so it doesn't block ambient light in the immediate vicinity of where the sensor is calibrating. The only way a QD OLED's calibration is even remotely possible to be valid is when the lights are completely off.
@@sindev3320 i think so, im too researching this, because woled has less color volume but better blacks but qd-oled ends the point of having n oled of the black arent going to be infinite black
@@sindev3320 I wouldn't say never, but that would need a complete overhaul of how QD-Oled is assembled and works. There is no easy fix, unless that come with a break throw, I estimated the solution is at least more than decade away.
Excelent comparison. I feel like since you are a photographer you are better suited with every other flat 32" OLED model that comes this year, don't know what Alienware smoke to put a curved display on a 16:9 monitor. I agree with the productivity comment on your video, using a 42" you can leave scaling to 100% and have windows on the sides. It's remarkable for the LG to be so close since it's 2 years old, I wonder how the 42" C4 would compare.
Very informative video thank you. Have you noticed the Alienware having a more washed out look at that hdr 1000? Is the contrast different between the two? I like brights but not at the expense of loosing my darks. Thank you
I love my Alienware I know a lot of people are talking about They had some issues but it’s luck of the draw. I’ve had zero issues and zero complaints. I can never go with the LG C2 for one. It’s too damn big and for two it really puts a neuter on my RTX 4090 as far as how high my frame rate can go in competitive games.
I have had the c2 for 2 years now and the first month I had It I hated it , colors were washed out and blacks were all raised. Soon as I put my color space to limited on the TV it made everything better , some black crush but much better , not sure why but running Full color space on PC/console and TV messed up the picture
@@Dx-so7jm Another thing you want to adjust is Black Stabiliser in Game Mode settings. Dark HDR movies looks much better to me with more shadow revealing at level13. WOLED has innately some black crush, so the dark nuances needs to be raised. Black will still be black.
@@Chasm9 yea thats why i was asking. i have the c3 and i calibrated it to tftchannels guide getting it as close to 6500k as possible and it doesnt look anything like what was shown in the video. not sure if that c2 was calibrated correctly or not.
Very similar with my experience of using the AW3423DW and LGC2 .. C2 during the day looks better overall but QD-Oled really is something else at night when there is no ambient lighting .. all the colours look so deep and vivid with QD-OLED
I can confirm your statement on the screen size. I also got somewhat sick when testing the C2, sometimes a light headache. The Alienware on the other hand is just perfect for on the desk.
As the owner of a Samsung S95B QD-OLED TV, I eagerly anticipate the arrival of my Alienware 32 4K QD-OLED monitor next week. Want to see what improvements a gen 3 QD-OLED panel has.
It’s fantastic imo. coming from owner of LG 40inch OLED tv (a few years old) and decent 4K HDR 144Hz IPS panel (against which the Alienware wins by a country mile in every category)
Why the hell isn't the glossy of the C2 the default option in oled monitors, how can anyone not see it as objectively better especially as how much they struggle with balancing brightness and burn in risk.
5:55 Btw it's not just the matte coating that is raising the black level, qd oled inherently has worse black levels due to ambient light activating the quantum dot layer. It's a draw back of the technology.
@@DonDOOM4 Even without direct light hitting the monitor, in a well lit room the QD-OLED's black levels are gone in this environment, it looks even worse than an IPS monitor.
I use the following with good results: - Dolby Vision (monitor) off - HDR (monitor) on, and set to TrueBlack 400 - HDR (windows) on There is also software on Dells website that installs the colour profiles for display settings. So in my display settings on windows the profile mirrors what is set in the display (TrueBlack 400). Hope that helps.
It definitely does. But Dolby Vision support for windows is dodgy so I’ve turned it off. It’s supposed to work perfect from consoles / Apple TV etc but I’ve not tested it myself
I have the c2 65” and now the AW3225qf too and I agree, the c2 overall brightness is higher than the AW but the the peak 1000 highlights on the AW are much higher than the c2. Despite the AW also being glossy I do think the finish on the c2 is is slightly better and more crisp. I think this may be because the AW is a “semi-gloss” vs a true gloss like the c2. Both screens are beautiful though that’s for sure.
Its a very informative and good comparison between the mainstream small OLED TV and current best 4k OLED monitor in market. In HDR performance, I believe there's not too much real life difference in terms of HDR brightness unless you are rich enough to buy different OLED displays and compare them side to side. A little correction from the video @Johny McPro mentioned. First, for LG TV, you can never turn off ABL, what he turned off is actually ASBL, which is dim down when static display detected. Its annoying ASBL cant detect when you typing and it dim down. ABL is depends on overall window percentage in high brightness, the large bright window, the lower highest brightness. The ABL for any OLED TVs are pretty aggressive that its to reserve the shelf life of OLED to prevent burn-in. The OLED monitors, since smaller screen size, the ABL is quite less aggressive than TV (technically) Second, about the peak brightness like this Alienware QD-OLED advertised. Its completely a marketing BS because its need a very very tiny high brightness window size to achieve. Fun facts, regardless WOLED or QD-OLED, 10% and above white windows (in testing) are only 500-600 nits. You rarely has any HDR gaming or movie scenes that can dive below 5% bright windows. For reason why LG C2 42 is generally "brighter" than Alienware 32 is because the larger bright windows for LG is actually do better than Alienware. It is also due to pixel density. For 32 inch 4k is much denser pixels than 42 inch 4k, a smaller self-lit pixel tend to has lower overall brightness compare to large one. Just simply go to RTings compare the C2/C3 in different sizes, you can see that the larger TV do has higher peak brightness. When you choosing between WOLED and QD-OLED, no.1 factor definitely your room condition. If your use case more on day time and pretty bright environment, better choose WOLED. If you purely on gaming at night, in a darker room, then go for QD-OED. For my case, my desk is right beside windows, QD-OLED raised black issue is really huge deal breaker for me. So I rather choose WOLED.
I did the same thing with the c3 the 32 is a lot more comfortable IMO visually both are amazing I do prefer the glossier look on the c3 but its close enough it wasn't a factor.
I really don't care about gaming cause my pc laptop is a 4070 and I'm also on a macbook pro so it this the monitor to use for both? because you said it had good color accuracy?im currently looking for a monitor for both
Are both LG and AW3225QF calibrated to a D 65 color temperature ? If you have CALMAN, you should be able to calibrate the LG automatically. It seems like the LG has a cooler color temperatur. If you choose Cinema mode on LGC2, you should be at D65. Also, when you are shooting the comparison, which HDR mode are you on for both devices? if you are playing Dolby Vision content then you have to make sure that both units are calibrated at the D65 in Dolby Vision Cinema mode or Dolby Vision Dark. The alienware red color seems to be orange. It doesn’t really hit the P3 color however looks a lot deeper red and it appears to be more accurate than the Alienware. Do you have DEITP or DE2K?
Nice video but if you re testing HDR, mix the games a bit. firstly gotta try ORI and The Will of the Wisps, would rather pick Horizon also before RDR2 or SOTTR.
in that side-by-side, it's like a worse case scenario since my studio lights were on which doesn't help the Alienware - in a dark room, they both equally as dark. Also, video exaggerates the effect unfortunately.
Red Dead has a broken HDR. You are actually gonna get a better picture in SDR. You were probably in SDR without knowing. The pixel aperture on larger displays is naturally gonna appear brighter. That's why I'm leery of moving down from my 48" LG CX OLED
I double-checked. It had HDR enabled and was working perfectly fine on both displays. It's just the more aggressive ABL on the Alienware that would throw me off as it would dim the bight snowy scenes.
@JohnnyMcPro I'm in Red Dead right now. You can have HDR enabled on windows, but when you check your displays output there will be no HDR signal. The ABL on these new, smaller displays can't reach the window size nit of a TV display. 25 to 50 percent. That's where it matters. Not the peek.
Only use for sound is through and HDMI eArc, terrible decision. Not only did I just spend $1200 for this monitor and they couldn’t have put a 3.5mm audio jack🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ The C2 blacks still look blacker, that’s crazy
Thanks for the comparison video! Do you still miss the immersion of the C2 or did you get used to the smaller monitor? I'm using a 43" QN90C and I'm concerned that I will miss the size if I get the AW3225QF.
Trying to make this decision but i dont have them side by side. The lg c2 that i have is brighter though not because is a larger display but because its brighter in 10% 25% etc window sizes than the alienware. Alieware and all new qd oled monitors do 1000 nits for 2%. Sizes after that take a nosedive with 10% being at 450. I would like to try a new qd oled for the 240Hz since i have a 4090 but am worried i will regret it due to the brightness difference…any opinions? Thanks
These QD OLEDs are just too dark. I have the PG32UCDM and bright highlights are amazing but in order for those highlights to burn so bright, the rest of the image is dark. Playing RE Village is soooo dark on the OLED. On my pG27UQ it looks perfect.
Alienware/Dell should look at this review so they could unlock the controls via firmware update for something like the ABL, especially when playing games with snow or white background/scenes like RDR2. If they make the best firmware updates then they will really dominate this market until ASUS and MSI fix their unavailability issue.
Really reminds me of my IPS to VA comparison. Difference is obvious. QD is technically obviously better - more realisitic colors. WOLED is like addin white color or to everything. Unfortunately i havent seen 38-42" QD Oled and >1440p. But C2 still OK and immersive .
When you have them side by side, it seems like the LG is darker with the blacks, or richer in color. Where the alienware appears a little washed out, maybe its matt finish.
In this video, when they were side-by-side, HDR was not enabled, so content like that video appears more washed out. It actual use with HDR enabled, the Alienware has amazing black levels and rich color.
@@2006chunming yes, i mean were entering a golden era of monitors, there still alot of em coming up this season various brand with various size and resolution, especially aorus with the dp 2.1 port, i believe it is wise to wait for another product to avoid a regrettable decision and another upgrade. better spend it all for once and use it til the next 4-7 years.
I’m doing something similar choosing betweenAlienware and my Samsung 90c. One note about HDR 1000. It does get brighter but at the expense of the rest of the image being darker. If you use true hdr 400 highlights are dimmer but you get better overall brightness.
qdoled is too warm, not sure why people dont ever point that out? I checked with my ceiling light 6500k and the color temps of the qdoled is 10% hotter.
That Dolby Vision bug is actually a problem with Windows poor implementation of Dolby Vision support. That said, a recent firmware for the Alienware display has added an option in the OSD to turn on/off Dolby Vision thus making it a non-issue now.
Why is nobody talking about the poor white uniformity of the LG C2? In a white screen scenario you will see a pink tint in the centre of the screen, and a green tint in the corners
How anti glare coatings became the norm is beyond me. It looks terrible, all the time, and barely cuts down the glare, it even makes the overall picture worse than gloss coatings in brightly lit environments.
I had to return mine because of the dolby vision bug. It would not disable even when I turned off HDR. The Alienware was absolutely amazing though and I plan to buy it again when it is fixed, but for now I just returned it.
I bought mine recently. there’s a toggle in the firmware to turn it off and I have done that, as windows gets funny with it on. Works fine after that. Brilliant display for me in mixed use for productivity, games, and vids. Hope that helps.
I wish they'd make a 42 inch 4k 240hz with MLA! I was considering returning my LG C3 and getting one of the new finally good oled pc monitors but I have decided that 27 inch and even 32 inch is actually too small for me. 42 inch is amazing. What's a shame is the LG C4 will not be getting the new sub pixel arrangement and no 240hz and no MLA unlike the 27inch and 32inch desktop monitor panels from LG this year. So they put MLA on small panels, and on the huge tv's,, but the 42 inch won't get it :(
I don't participate in pointless tech arguments and I'm not here to start anything, so I won't respond to combative replies. Just wanted to point out that, since you mentioned how impressed you were with some the brightness, that mini-LED has currently no competition in this area as far as the consumer panel market goes. I owned a LG C1 for two years and I recently replaced it with a mini-LED TV by TCL. It can do 2500 nits on a 25% window which is almost three times as much as any OLED is currently capable of doing. I just wanted to point out how much of a difference that makes in your viewing experience. Of course some people prefer OLED for the infinite black level and that's perfectly valid. I will personally not go back to OLED until peak and especially sustained brightness is dramatically improved. For me personally, brightness makes the biggest impact on my viewing experience. The higher the brightness the more enjoyable the experience is for me.
Mini led isn't close in motion clarity unfortunately which makes it unusable imo. Picture to me looks substantially worse since mini led lacks contrast giving a sense of missing depth. There's a reason 8k mini leds failed so miserably
I also have a 42 inch c2 and got the asus pg32ucdm. When in HDR mode it locks out the settings. Im not a fan of the warmer colour temp, everything has a yello tinge to it. I prefer a cooler look but cant change that. I take it its the same on this monitor too
That alienware looks fantastic great comparison, i can't wait for to take a monitor qd oled 32" 4k with 240hz to use in competitive games,video-editing and ps5....I’m still undecided on which to take.......but maybe I’ll wait next year with the 5090 release maybe....maybe they'll do minitors at 4k 360 hz lol
I tried the brighter C3 and the Alienware. I returned the C3. In comparison, the colors looked dull on the C3 and the gray/shadow details were totally lacking; whites were exaggerated/unnatural as well. On the Alienware monitor everything just pops; details in color gradations are very apparent; a more balanced look. I mean just look at the video @ 7:04, 8:29, 8:54, 8:59; and that's with TH-cam compression. In person the difference is even more noticeable.
Awesome comparison. Each screen does shine in some instances over the other. When you had the side by side comparison it looked like the C2 had much better blacks. Very inky very nice while the AW looked a little greyish next to C2. But the colours in Halo Infinite looked better on the AW vs the C2. Not sure if it was the timing of when you took the shots but the C2 also looked like it handled glares/reflections worse than the AW. I don't play a lot of competitive games so the 240hz isn't a big deal for me, id rather better picture quality as the type of games I play cap out at sub 100 fps anyways at 4K and maxed out settings, even on my 4090 rig. But that desk real estate is daunting to go with a 42" screen.
For some people its impossible to realize to not shine a studio lights directly at qd oled panels to avoid raising blacks. Its the technology that bounces light back.
How is the pink tint on the lg oled? I read that every evo panel has this coating that gives reddish hue to the image. Alot of images and stories online.
ive had quite few issues with mine, hope the FW comes soon. i got about 1 week left to return it. but it seems based on early reivews, Asus was not able to squeeze out any extra performance out of their model. so must be panel limitation and Asus also wont even have DV ready at launch, which could be a sign its not Dells fault either?
Wow, look at the blueberries @14:24 , they actually look BLUE on the C2, and the blacks levels look much deeper and actually black on the WOLED panel. Thanks for comparing them side by side, and great review.
The first thought on the “gray” blueberries is the calibration is way off because my monitor (Aw3225qf) doesn’t do that… it can be adjusted via the custom menu…
@@TheUnrider it’s not just from this video, many of the reviews I’ve read state that QD-OLED do not have as deep blacks compared to WOLED. Of course it’s still going to be better than VA or IPS, and will get brighter than WOLED.
Well technically the Alienware blueberries looked more like blue berries you'd see in real life at the supermarket. Blue berries aren't no where near as vibrantly blue as the LG was showing. You might prefer the way the LG showed it, but the Alienware definitely looks more real and close to what an actual blue berry appears.
@@AverageJoeGlobeR I was just saying that the colors looked more vibrant than the Alienware, I didn't say that it was representing exactly how a blueberry looked in real life lol. Also, the OP stated that the color setting was left on standard (not the over-washed settings of vivid or "dynamic") and not calibrated, so for those settings I think the LG was impressive. Many reviews on reddit and forums have stated that QD-OLED, while brighter, don't have as deep as blacks. I've only seen the TVs in person but not this specific Alienware monitor, placing them side by side in person would be interesting.
I dont understand how ppl can tolerate 42" at 70 cms distance, it is waaaay to huge
That's what she said!
I won't go back, even a 32p screen seems too small to me now.
I'd totally tolerate it, but the pixel density is too low for me.
That's what she said. 😏
I did that on a 48" 😂
Was your HDR testing with LG C2 using HGIG tone mapping mode or dynamic tone mapping? Dynamic tone mapping artificially brightens darker parts of the image, which could explain why the C2 looked brighter than the Alienware.
Even with HGIG the C2 was brighter for me except for 2% window where my C2 can only get to 700ish nits and the Alienware can hit 1000, for whatever reason at 10% the alienware is like 450 nits while the LG can still hold 700 nits. Couple that with the size difference and the C2 is definitely the brighter one.
should i go for LG C4 48" or the alienware AW3225QF? the C4 is on sale like around $850
I'm using the LG mentioned here and I'm absolutely fine with it for movies and gaming!
I still prefer the LG because of its smart TV functionality. I can go from gaming to hooking up my jailbroken 4k firestick to watch my favorite shows without a hitch. You can't do that on a computer monitor without doing a lot of extra shit to make it possible
You can watch without issues any HDR movie even with dolby vision on PC. Media player classic + madVR HDR ON and it will auto map HDR content.
Just stumbled upon this channel. I watch a lot of this stuff. This is a really good comparison video! Just earned a Sub.
The raised black levels on the Alienware is caused by a lack of a polarizer when high ambient light is shown on it.
It's not, it's because the quantum dot is on the external side of the panel, they absorb light and glow, like a fluorescent vest.
Yes, it glows pink/purple/magenta even when the display is off. Horrible. QD OLEDs are dark-room only mastering monitors, not daytime. And that purple glow definitely does impact your perception of colour even when the scene is bright. There is NO WAY that is calibrated to a D65 white point if you measure it full-screen and keep the calibration meter pulled back away from the monitor so it doesn't block ambient light in the immediate vicinity of where the sensor is calibrating. The only way a QD OLED's calibration is even remotely possible to be valid is when the lights are completely off.
@@mrxcs so qd oled will never be as black as woled ?
@@sindev3320 i think so, im too researching this, because woled has less color volume but better blacks but qd-oled ends the point of having n oled of the black arent going to be infinite black
@@sindev3320 I wouldn't say never, but that would need a complete overhaul of how QD-Oled is assembled and works. There is no easy fix, unless that come with a break throw, I estimated the solution is at least more than decade away.
man i'm tempted to get the lg c3 because it's more burn-in ressiliant and has a polarizer.
Excelent comparison. I feel like since you are a photographer you are better suited with every other flat 32" OLED model that comes this year, don't know what Alienware smoke to put a curved display on a 16:9 monitor.
I agree with the productivity comment on your video, using a 42" you can leave scaling to 100% and have windows on the sides.
It's remarkable for the LG to be so close since it's 2 years old, I wonder how the 42" C4 would compare.
I feel like putting a matte coating on an OLED is a sin, especially so on qd oled given the much higher black level it has compared to woled.
Very informative video thank you. Have you noticed the Alienware having a more washed out look at that hdr 1000? Is the contrast different between the two? I like brights but not at the expense of loosing my darks. Thank you
I love my Alienware I know a lot of people are talking about They had some issues but it’s luck of the draw. I’ve had zero issues and zero complaints. I can never go with the LG C2 for one. It’s too damn big and for two it really puts a neuter on my RTX 4090 as far as how high my frame rate can go in competitive games.
Uh, what? They are both 4K, and C2 is arguably better for different resolutions too, since you can do ultra wide and super ultra wide natively.
I have had the c2 for 2 years now and the first month I had It I hated it , colors were washed out and blacks were all raised.
Soon as I put my color space to limited on the TV it made everything better , some black crush but much better , not sure why but running Full color space on PC/console and TV messed up the picture
@@Dx-so7jm Looks like you had the wrong black levels. Anyway, you should also only use HDR on PC, seeing as SDR looks bad and is dark.
@@Deffine nah , I played with all settings for a month before I just mismatched color settings , had no choice
@@Dx-so7jm Another thing you want to adjust is Black Stabiliser in Game Mode settings. Dark HDR movies looks much better to me with more shadow revealing at level13. WOLED has innately some black crush, so the dark nuances needs to be raised. Black will still be black.
did you have a "cool" profile on the c2 in the footage? it looks like the aw has a warm profile and the lg has a cool one on.
Yeah, I have C2 set to Warm 50 and it's almost perfect. It doesn't look like the example in this video.
@@Chasm9 yea thats why i was asking. i have the c3 and i calibrated it to tftchannels guide getting it as close to 6500k as possible and it doesnt look anything like what was shown in the video. not sure if that c2 was calibrated correctly or not.
Yea, you have to raise the warmth - Warm 50 or 30 depending on your taste.
Do you think the 32 inch Alienware is immersive enough (sitting close) or the 42 inch C2 is better by a lot in this case?
Very similar with my experience of using the AW3423DW and LGC2 .. C2 during the day looks better overall but QD-Oled really is something else at night when there is no ambient lighting .. all the colours look so deep and vivid with QD-OLED
I think the current 4k oled 240hz monitors should not be sold above $800. It’s just too overpriced for what they could offer.
So many lg bots 😂 "lg is way wayyyy better cause woled best" "im sticking with my c1" 77 inch
alienware stand looks so bad, like a 6yr old child designed it
The only thing I don’t like about aw3225qf is the curved monitor 😢
You won’t notice it it’s so minimal. I was sceptical as well but I love it.
I can confirm your statement on the screen size. I also got somewhat sick when testing the C2, sometimes a light headache. The Alienware on the other hand is just perfect for on the desk.
You just took two cons of QDOLED (low brightness & washed out blacks) and flipped it as Pros for the Alienware lol
As the owner of a Samsung S95B QD-OLED TV, I eagerly anticipate the arrival of my Alienware 32 4K QD-OLED monitor next week. Want to see what improvements a gen 3 QD-OLED panel has.
It’s fantastic imo.
coming from owner of LG 40inch OLED tv (a few years old) and decent 4K HDR 144Hz IPS panel (against which the Alienware wins by a country mile in every category)
can you run the LG in ultrawide resolution and make a picture side by side ? i run my oled always in ultrawide, when sitting infront on the desk
i'll go with the LG C2 for overall pick 100% otherwise if you're an etlitist FPS player go with the Alienware
Why the hell isn't the glossy of the C2 the default option in oled monitors, how can anyone not see it as objectively better especially as how much they struggle with balancing brightness and burn in risk.
Alienware for me! Over 40 inches is just becoming a TV
5:55 Btw it's not just the matte coating that is raising the black level, qd oled inherently has worse black levels due to ambient light activating the quantum dot layer. It's a draw back of the technology.
Hence the need to control the light in the room. Make sure there's no direct light in front of the display and you're good.
@@DonDOOM4 Even without direct light hitting the monitor, in a well lit room the QD-OLED's black levels are gone in this environment, it looks even worse than an IPS monitor.
@@4epa1012 A well lit / bright room =/= light controlled room. An overhead light, window to the side etc are all still direct light hitting the panel.
@@DonDOOM4 There is huge difference between direct sunlight and reflected sunlight... Jfyi
@@4epa1012 Right, and I made a distinction between the two.
The C2 looked blue in comparison to the 3225
maybe vs C3 ? :p not an easy choice between immersion, fps gaming and work (text clarity, size..)
is it just me ? the color looks warm, not blacked enough, when putted next to LG.
same here
Great review! It helped make my decision on purchasing the Alienware monitor
What were your settings using the Alienware monitor, in Windows and on the Monitor itself?
I use the following with good results:
- Dolby Vision (monitor) off
- HDR (monitor) on, and set to TrueBlack 400
- HDR (windows) on
There is also software on Dells website that installs the colour profiles for display settings. So in my display settings on windows the profile mirrors what is set in the display (TrueBlack 400). Hope that helps.
does anyone know if the abl can be tuned off? that shits a dealbreaker.
You can't unfortunately, but it actually grew on me. I didn't see it as annoying at first now.
The black looks better on the LG screen. Is there a way to fix that on the alienware? Or is it just how it comes out the box?
That is the flaw of the qd-oled panel, to get maximum black you need a pitch black room. If you have any lightning it will look less black.
My concern is the lg looks truly black , and the alienware looks more grey
I like the color volume of the Alienware but the black levels on it when hit by light is absolutely terrible and takes away from the experience.
Can i watch dolby vision movies on the Alienware? Does it support dolby vision?
It definitely does. But Dolby Vision support for windows is dodgy so I’ve turned it off. It’s supposed to work perfect from consoles / Apple TV etc but I’ve not tested it myself
Anything comparison with Alienware aw2325qf interest me 🙂
I have the c2 65” and now the AW3225qf too and I agree, the c2 overall brightness is higher than the AW but the the peak 1000 highlights on the AW are much higher than the c2. Despite the AW also being glossy I do think the finish on the c2 is is slightly better and more crisp. I think this may be because the AW is a “semi-gloss” vs a true gloss like the c2. Both screens are beautiful though that’s for sure.
Its a very informative and good comparison between the mainstream small OLED TV and current best 4k OLED monitor in market. In HDR performance, I believe there's not too much real life difference in terms of HDR brightness unless you are rich enough to buy different OLED displays and compare them side to side.
A little correction from the video @Johny McPro mentioned. First, for LG TV, you can never turn off ABL, what he turned off is actually ASBL, which is dim down when static display detected. Its annoying ASBL cant detect when you typing and it dim down. ABL is depends on overall window percentage in high brightness, the large bright window, the lower highest brightness. The ABL for any OLED TVs are pretty aggressive that its to reserve the shelf life of OLED to prevent burn-in. The OLED monitors, since smaller screen size, the ABL is quite less aggressive than TV (technically)
Second, about the peak brightness like this Alienware QD-OLED advertised. Its completely a marketing BS because its need a very very tiny high brightness window size to achieve. Fun facts, regardless WOLED or QD-OLED, 10% and above white windows (in testing) are only 500-600 nits. You rarely has any HDR gaming or movie scenes that can dive below 5% bright windows.
For reason why LG C2 42 is generally "brighter" than Alienware 32 is because the larger bright windows for LG is actually do better than Alienware. It is also due to pixel density. For 32 inch 4k is much denser pixels than 42 inch 4k, a smaller self-lit pixel tend to has lower overall brightness compare to large one. Just simply go to RTings compare the C2/C3 in different sizes, you can see that the larger TV do has higher peak brightness.
When you choosing between WOLED and QD-OLED, no.1 factor definitely your room condition. If your use case more on day time and pretty bright environment, better choose WOLED. If you purely on gaming at night, in a darker room, then go for QD-OED. For my case, my desk is right beside windows, QD-OLED raised black issue is really huge deal breaker for me. So I rather choose WOLED.
Great points.
how do u guys play on the LG ...so much ghosting ...you guys just like big and you feel its nice.
There is no ghosting on OLED you big dumb dumb
I did the same thing with the c3 the 32 is a lot more comfortable IMO visually both are amazing I do prefer the glossier look on the c3 but its close enough it wasn't a factor.
LG W-OLED vs Samsung QD-OLED Gen 3.
Gonna try to make the jump from the c2 to the Alienware worst case I'll return it.
Update? Did you return?
@@UnrealNeal I kept the AW and sold the 42" c2. I have a 77"g2 that I play single player games on and I use the 32 AW for my fps/multiplayer stuff.
I really don't care about gaming cause my pc laptop is a 4070 and I'm also on a macbook pro so it this the monitor to use for both? because you said it had good color accuracy?im currently looking for a monitor for both
Are both LG and AW3225QF calibrated to a D 65 color temperature ? If you have CALMAN, you should be able to calibrate the LG automatically. It seems like the LG has a cooler color temperatur. If you choose Cinema mode on LGC2, you should be at D65. Also, when you are shooting the comparison, which HDR mode are you on for both devices? if you are playing Dolby Vision content then you have to make sure that both units are calibrated at the D65 in Dolby Vision Cinema mode or Dolby Vision Dark. The alienware red color seems to be orange. It doesn’t really hit the P3 color however looks a lot deeper red and it appears to be more accurate than the Alienware. Do you have DEITP or DE2K?
Nice video but if you re testing HDR, mix the games a bit.
firstly gotta try ORI and The Will of the Wisps, would rather pick Horizon also before RDR2 or SOTTR.
Thanks for the video. It was helpful
For me, when I did the windows calibration and forced 1000 with the DV bug it seemed to overwrite the low peak with DV
Alienware blacks are far worse the the C2 and white on alienware is not as white as the C2. so what is up wiht it?
in that side-by-side, it's like a worse case scenario since my studio lights were on which doesn't help the Alienware - in a dark room, they both equally as dark. Also, video exaggerates the effect unfortunately.
Red Dead has a broken HDR. You are actually gonna get a better picture in SDR. You were probably in SDR without knowing. The pixel aperture on larger displays is naturally gonna appear brighter. That's why I'm leery of moving down from my 48" LG CX OLED
I double-checked. It had HDR enabled and was working perfectly fine on both displays. It's just the more aggressive ABL on the Alienware that would throw me off as it would dim the bight snowy scenes.
@JohnnyMcPro I'm in Red Dead right now. You can have HDR enabled on windows, but when you check your displays output there will be no HDR signal. The ABL on these new, smaller displays can't reach the window size nit of a TV display. 25 to 50 percent. That's where it matters. Not the peek.
Dell looks 100x better
No... The LG is not brighter coz of its size! These new QDOLED monitors are simply not bright enough compared to TVs...
Only use for sound is through and HDMI eArc, terrible decision. Not only did I just spend $1200 for this monitor and they couldn’t have put a 3.5mm audio jack🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The C2 blacks still look blacker, that’s crazy
Thanks for the comparison video! Do you still miss the immersion of the C2 or did you get used to the smaller monitor? I'm using a 43" QN90C and I'm concerned that I will miss the size if I get the AW3225QF.
Trying to make this decision but i dont have them side by side. The lg c2 that i have is brighter though not because is a larger display but because its brighter in 10% 25% etc window sizes than the alienware. Alieware and all new qd oled monitors do 1000 nits for 2%. Sizes after that take a nosedive with 10% being at 450. I would like to try a new qd oled for the 240Hz since i have a 4090 but am worried i will regret it due to the brightness difference…any opinions? Thanks
have u calibrated lg c2 with lg calman with 709 d65 2.4
These QD OLEDs are just too dark. I have the PG32UCDM and bright highlights are amazing but in order for those highlights to burn so bright, the rest of the image is dark. Playing RE Village is soooo dark on the OLED. On my pG27UQ it looks perfect.
Alienware/Dell should look at this review so they could unlock the controls via firmware update for something like the ABL, especially when playing games with snow or white background/scenes like RDR2. If they make the best firmware updates then they will really dominate this market until ASUS and MSI fix their unavailability issue.
Really reminds me of my IPS to VA comparison. Difference is obvious. QD is technically obviously better - more realisitic colors. WOLED is like addin white color or to everything. Unfortunately i havent seen 38-42" QD Oled and >1440p. But C2 still OK and immersive .
I just grabbed myself an alienware, and Hdr trueblack is my sweet spot for me. HDRpeak1000 was just not it for me.
That QD OLED monitor smoked the lg screen.
When you have them side by side, it seems like the LG is darker with the blacks, or richer in color. Where the alienware appears a little washed out, maybe its matt finish.
its also stated in another review that alienware monitor need a little bit calibrations, but they working on it for the upcoming firmware update
@@HITMAN80g thank you. You know now am seeing that LG 42 for like $800 and it might go even cheaper in a month or so.
In this video, when they were side-by-side, HDR was not enabled, so content like that video appears more washed out. It actual use with HDR enabled, the Alienware has amazing black levels and rich color.
@@2006chunming yes, i mean were entering a golden era of monitors, there still alot of em coming up this season various brand with various size and resolution, especially aorus with the dp 2.1 port, i believe it is wise to wait for another product to avoid a regrettable decision and another upgrade. better spend it all for once and use it til the next 4-7 years.
@@HITMAN80g yes! This true. So right!
I’m doing something similar choosing betweenAlienware and my Samsung 90c. One note about HDR 1000. It does get brighter but at the expense of the rest of the image being darker. If you use true hdr 400 highlights are dimmer but you get better overall brightness.
You didn’t speak about the curve in the AW much. Did you feel it had any pros or cons as far as gaming goes?
I wish it was flat honestly. You get used to the curve and it does have it's benefits - but is actually doesn't need to be curved in my opinion.
I have Alienware AW3423DW ultrawide display. Do you think it’s worth it to upgrade to AW3225QF?
The C2 supports 3D LUT calibration so your claim that the Alienware is more accurate after calibration means you don't know what you're doing.
qdoled is too warm, not sure why people dont ever point that out? I checked with my ceiling light 6500k and the color temps of the qdoled is 10% hotter.
Since the camera makes the blacks worse on the Alienware, do the blacks in reality look almost good as the 42-inch LG?
I sold my LG C2 42 inch about 3 months ago. Although it was an excellent display, it was just too large for me.
That Dolby Vision bug is actually a problem with Windows poor implementation of Dolby Vision support. That said, a recent firmware for the Alienware display has added an option in the OSD to turn on/off Dolby Vision thus making it a non-issue now.
Monitors finally got good. Couple years ago we had absolutely terrible monitors around this price range all extremely overpriced.
Why is nobody talking about the poor white uniformity of the LG C2? In a white screen scenario you will see a pink tint in the centre of the screen, and a green tint in the corners
How anti glare coatings became the norm is beyond me. It looks terrible, all the time, and barely cuts down the glare, it even makes the overall picture worse than gloss coatings in brightly lit environments.
This video is exactly what I needed. I'm looking to purchase one of these monitors :) Thank you for the in-depth information
LG looks better in my opinion. It has natural colours compared to Alienware warm tones.
what ??? c2 very good, alienware : pixels and black very bad , qd oled samsung very bad
C3 must be better, no? i purchase one lg c3 oled 55" - i gonna try it. if i dont like it i gonna return it and buy one AW3225QF
IF U HAVE nvidia HDR RTX u can turn on ON SDR games.. it looks great with hdr on .
The LG's black expression is better, and the Dell's colors seem to be richer, but it feels a bit exaggerated.
I had to return mine because of the dolby vision bug. It would not disable even when I turned off HDR. The Alienware was absolutely amazing though and I plan to buy it again when it is fixed, but for now I just returned it.
I bought mine recently. there’s a toggle in the firmware to turn it off and I have done that, as windows gets funny with it on. Works fine after that. Brilliant display for me in mixed use for productivity, games, and vids. Hope that helps.
A bit more light in the room and the Alienware's black levels and contrast are gone.
I wish they'd make a 42 inch 4k 240hz with MLA! I was considering returning my LG C3 and getting one of the new finally good oled pc monitors but I have decided that 27 inch and even 32 inch is actually too small for me. 42 inch is amazing.
What's a shame is the LG C4 will not be getting the new sub pixel arrangement and no 240hz and no MLA unlike the 27inch and 32inch desktop monitor panels from LG this year.
So they put MLA on small panels, and on the huge tv's,, but the 42 inch won't get it :(
For you getting the lg g4 that’s the case - money
Hold out until the c5. Idk if it will have 240hz but most likely 144hz like the c4 but also have mla as the patent expires in 2025.
I don't participate in pointless tech arguments and I'm not here to start anything, so I won't respond to combative replies. Just wanted to point out that, since you mentioned how impressed you were with some the brightness, that mini-LED has currently no competition in this area as far as the consumer panel market goes. I owned a LG C1 for two years and I recently replaced it with a mini-LED TV by TCL. It can do 2500 nits on a 25% window which is almost three times as much as any OLED is currently capable of doing. I just wanted to point out how much of a difference that makes in your viewing experience. Of course some people prefer OLED for the infinite black level and that's perfectly valid. I will personally not go back to OLED until peak and especially sustained brightness is dramatically improved. For me personally, brightness makes the biggest impact on my viewing experience. The higher the brightness the more enjoyable the experience is for me.
This is true - some of the mini-LEDs out there are basically like staring into the sun.
Mini led isn't close in motion clarity unfortunately which makes it unusable imo. Picture to me looks substantially worse since mini led lacks contrast giving a sense of missing depth. There's a reason 8k mini leds failed so miserably
I also have a 42 inch c2 and got the asus pg32ucdm. When in HDR mode it locks out the settings. Im not a fan of the warmer colour temp, everything has a yello tinge to it. I prefer a cooler look but cant change that. I take it its the same on this monitor too
Idk whats mean consistent and immersion. Sorry Iam hungarian and these are unknown for me in english. I would like to Aw3225qf
That alienware looks fantastic great comparison, i can't wait for to take a monitor qd oled 32" 4k with 240hz to use in competitive games,video-editing and ps5....I’m still undecided on which to take.......but maybe I’ll wait next year with the 5090 release maybe....maybe they'll do minitors at 4k 360 hz lol
Do you experience eye strain with this monitor? I read that many people (reditt & review) had this problem with this monitor and the 27" version
I tried the brighter C3 and the Alienware. I returned the C3. In comparison, the colors looked dull on the C3 and the gray/shadow details were totally lacking; whites were exaggerated/unnatural as well. On the Alienware monitor everything just pops; details in color gradations are very apparent; a more balanced look. I mean just look at the video @ 7:04, 8:29, 8:54, 8:59; and that's with TH-cam compression. In person the difference is even more noticeable.
My lg 42 inch arrived today.
c2 or c3 ?
C3 it hit 821 dollars and I thought to buy.@@noodlyy
Need a deeper desk for the lg, and minitor arm.
Awesome comparison. Each screen does shine in some instances over the other. When you had the side by side comparison it looked like the C2 had much better blacks. Very inky very nice while the AW looked a little greyish next to C2. But the colours in Halo Infinite looked better on the AW vs the C2. Not sure if it was the timing of when you took the shots but the C2 also looked like it handled glares/reflections worse than the AW. I don't play a lot of competitive games so the 240hz isn't a big deal for me, id rather better picture quality as the type of games I play cap out at sub 100 fps anyways at 4K and maxed out settings, even on my 4090 rig. But that desk real estate is daunting to go with a 42" screen.
For some people its impossible to realize to not shine a studio lights directly at qd oled panels to avoid raising blacks. Its the technology that bounces light back.
The c2 looks better specially the blacks.
The blacks are the same, both are oleds.
@@MrM-dl5zm no its not LOL LG looks better with that glossy panel
@@UltraJamZHDAlienware also have gloss finish (its definitely not matte)
@@MrM-dl5zmthe QD-OLED raises blacks with ambient lighting while the LG WOLED doesn't.
@@DrakonRI have qd oled monitor in front of me, you will need to point out the raised blacks that everyone being crying about all the time.
thanks for this I am sticking with W-oled waiting on dual hz monitor oled by June 4k 240hz 1080p @ 480hz
How is the pink tint on the lg oled? I read that every evo panel has this coating that gives reddish hue to the image. Alot of images and stories online.
Did you end up picking one!? I'm dying to know
Cant wait for my Alienware to arrive!
ive had quite few issues with mine, hope the FW comes soon. i got about 1 week left to return it. but it seems based on early reivews, Asus was not able to squeeze out any extra performance out of their model. so must be panel limitation and Asus also wont even have DV ready at launch, which could be a sign its not Dells fault either?
Wow, look at the blueberries @14:24 , they actually look BLUE on the C2, and the blacks levels look much deeper and actually black on the WOLED panel. Thanks for comparing them side by side, and great review.
its not as black on the alienware because of the background light in the room
The first thought on the “gray” blueberries is the calibration is way off because my monitor (Aw3225qf) doesn’t do that… it can be adjusted via the custom menu…
@@TheUnrider it’s not just from this video, many of the reviews I’ve read state that QD-OLED do not have as deep blacks compared to WOLED. Of course it’s still going to be better than VA or IPS, and will get brighter than WOLED.
Well technically the Alienware blueberries looked more like blue berries you'd see in real life at the supermarket. Blue berries aren't no where near as vibrantly blue as the LG was showing. You might prefer the way the LG showed it, but the Alienware definitely looks more real and close to what an actual blue berry appears.
@@AverageJoeGlobeR I was just saying that the colors looked more vibrant than the Alienware, I didn't say that it was representing exactly how a blueberry looked in real life lol. Also, the OP stated that the color setting was left on standard (not the over-washed settings of vivid or "dynamic") and not calibrated, so for those settings I think the LG was impressive. Many reviews on reddit and forums have stated that QD-OLED, while brighter, don't have as deep as blacks. I've only seen the TVs in person but not this specific Alienware monitor, placing them side by side in person would be interesting.
Another grey / washed out HDR monitor... TV way better
Never heard about Samsung/Sony TV's on qd oleds? Its the same panels but monitors are with higher refresh rate and higher PPI.