Many Thanks! In Bologna, we also call it ‘Al zug dal cart long’, which in slang it does mean ‘The Game of Long Cards’. Enjoy it, gaming and doing ‘La passata’! And don’t forget ‘Lo scavezzo’!
Nice work, you've improved your video skills even more. Could have mentioned Minchiate as another set collecting tarot game though. ;) Also you dropped your Hogan beard and swagger by the end of the video!
SHSHSHHHHHHH don't tell them about the continuity errors!!!!! You're right though about Minchiate. In my defence, I *think* I said what sets it apart from "almost" everyother tarot game ;)
Yes - definitely very complex! I'm glad to have learnt it playing online, so a lot of the heavy lifting in the scoring etc was automated! I'm interested to play more with some of the guys from Bologna, might make some videos of that later.
@@learntarotcardgames54 could be interesting to actually travel to the provinces and cities where the tarot games are still popular and to see everything in its native environment
@@CyrilViXP This is what John McLeod and Michael Dummett did. They traveled around and learnt the games from the old lads who still play in Bologna, villages in Sicily etc. Some of my other friends have talked about doing a tour of Europe playing local traditional card games along the way...
There still are, in Bologna a very few places, as well as bars or clubs where people are used to play or doing tournaments but unfortunately, fewer and fewer and older…so I’m very pleased knowing You all intersted and expertised to the game! Cheers and greetings from Bologna!
Good video! This is one of the most enjoyable tarot games if you ask me, although invariably a bit confusing at first for new players. One of charms of this game is actually the scoring at the end, if playing in person.
1. Is it permitted to re-use the condottiere in multiple sets for set collection purposes, or may they only be used once? 2. Why are the ranks of the numbered cards in the round suits reversed? Is there any good reason for this? From what I can tell, no tarot game scores any card of the number cards differently than any other. It isn't like in Jass where the rankings (including court cards) are reversed but the point values stay the same in a no-trump bottom-up game. In Jass, the disconnect between rank and card value can affect the strategy, but since no such disconnect exists in any tarot game I can find, it seems to be to be unnecessary complexity (which is why, I assume, they did away with it in French Tarot). Was there a proto-tarot game or something where this rank reversal mattered? Is there some symbolic reason for it? I want to know.
To answer question 2 - it's just for historical reasons. The games that came to Europe with the cards from the Middle East and Asia also reversed the order of two of the suits compared to the others. This tradition doesn't really change anything in the games, but it has remained in all tarot games except French and Sicilian. Although I know some people who play Italian tarocchi games from Piedmont/Liguria (where they use a full 78-card deck) but with all four suits in "normal" ranking.
BTW I also enjoy Jass a lot, including the bottoms-up contracts. Have played a couple of tournaments of 3p Coiffeur Jass, which is not common in Switzerland, but is a very fun game. If you are interested in talking about this kind of stuff, drop me an email and I'll invite you to our Discord server.
I got them from Amazon... Just google "Tarocco Bolognese". Other than that, it's hard outside Italy but there are some guys in North America who might have them - try contacting Tarot Bear's Lair or Tarock.net for online options. Good luck!
@@learntarotcardgames54 cool :) here in america everyone thinks tarot is black magic and such lol but then i started learning about cards from around the world, i used to be scared of tarot cards but nowadays i love tarot games, a lot of people think of the rider waite smith deck a lot like its a gold standard, i was able to get the loka deck a long time ago on amazon, hard to find tarock there but ebay looks promising
Well, to be fair this is in a style of a very old deck, several centuries older than the "German" decks you probably mean. Hence the wonkier art style.
@@plrc4593 Greetings! I'm Hungarian, yes. Tarokk has some following in Hungary. Many people don't even know about it though, so I'm not sure about the overall popularity, but there are regular tournaments, so those few who know it, like it a lot.
@@robkov80 In Poland tarok is rather completly unknown. Everybody associates tarot only with divination. I didn't know Tarok untill recently. I've resently discovered they play Tarok in southern Poland in a rather very small area (they even organize "International Tarok Championships" :D) and I was very surprised.
the german tarock is just overly "elegant" and detailed in design. Theres something just wrong about playing with a romantic-era landscape and copperplate capitals on one's cards. spanish-suited decks are the best-feeling to me, though i admit a lot of them aren't great, especially the many-swords designs.
You can see parts of the other traditional Italian games in this like Briscola
Yes, definitely. A lot of concepts shared between traditional Italian games.
Many Thanks! In Bologna, we also call it ‘Al zug dal cart long’, which in slang it does mean ‘The Game of Long Cards’. Enjoy it, gaming and doing ‘La passata’! And don’t forget ‘Lo scavezzo’!
Nice work, you've improved your video skills even more. Could have mentioned Minchiate as another set collecting tarot game though. ;) Also you dropped your Hogan beard and swagger by the end of the video!
SHSHSHHHHHHH don't tell them about the continuity errors!!!!! You're right though about Minchiate. In my defence, I *think* I said what sets it apart from "almost" everyother tarot game ;)
One of the most complicated tarot games, imo. Thank you for the tutorial!
Yes - definitely very complex! I'm glad to have learnt it playing online, so a lot of the heavy lifting in the scoring etc was automated! I'm interested to play more with some of the guys from Bologna, might make some videos of that later.
@@learntarotcardgames54 could be interesting to actually travel to the provinces and cities where the tarot games are still popular and to see everything in its native environment
@@CyrilViXP This is what John McLeod and Michael Dummett did. They traveled around and learnt the games from the old lads who still play in Bologna, villages in Sicily etc. Some of my other friends have talked about doing a tour of Europe playing local traditional card games along the way...
There still are, in Bologna a very few places, as well as bars or clubs where people are used to play or doing tournaments but unfortunately, fewer and fewer and older…so I’m very pleased knowing You all intersted and expertised to the game! Cheers and greetings from Bologna!
@@giuseppecavana3426 Yes - my friends and I are very interested to help revitalise the old games. Hopefully we can play online sometime!
Great video, thanks for covering this!
Thanks mate, finally I made some Italian game content for you :)
Good video! This is one of the most enjoyable tarot games if you ask me, although invariably a bit confusing at first for new players. One of charms of this game is actually the scoring at the end, if playing in person.
Thanks Trond!
My dear grandfather was a great player of this game in the tavern!
That's fantastic. There are still guys who play this in the taverns of Bologna, I hope it continues!
1. Is it permitted to re-use the condottiere in multiple sets for set collection purposes, or may they only be used once?
2. Why are the ranks of the numbered cards in the round suits reversed? Is there any good reason for this? From what I can tell, no tarot game scores any card of the number cards differently than any other. It isn't like in Jass where the rankings (including court cards) are reversed but the point values stay the same in a no-trump bottom-up game. In Jass, the disconnect between rank and card value can affect the strategy, but since no such disconnect exists in any tarot game I can find, it seems to be to be unnecessary complexity (which is why, I assume, they did away with it in French Tarot). Was there a proto-tarot game or something where this rank reversal mattered? Is there some symbolic reason for it? I want to know.
To answer question 2 - it's just for historical reasons. The games that came to Europe with the cards from the Middle East and Asia also reversed the order of two of the suits compared to the others. This tradition doesn't really change anything in the games, but it has remained in all tarot games except French and Sicilian. Although I know some people who play Italian tarocchi games from Piedmont/Liguria (where they use a full 78-card deck) but with all four suits in "normal" ranking.
BTW I also enjoy Jass a lot, including the bottoms-up contracts. Have played a couple of tournaments of 3p Coiffeur Jass, which is not common in Switzerland, but is a very fun game. If you are interested in talking about this kind of stuff, drop me an email and I'll invite you to our Discord server.
Where’d u get your deck from?
I got them from Amazon... Just google "Tarocco Bolognese". Other than that, it's hard outside Italy but there are some guys in North America who might have them - try contacting Tarot Bear's Lair or Tarock.net for online options. Good luck!
This makes the astrology stuff seem like a piece of cake
Hey bro, can you show us how to play barronetti plz?
I'll add it to the list! I haven't made any new videos for a while, but will get to it...
@@learntarotcardgames54 cool :) here in america everyone thinks tarot is black magic and such lol but then i started learning about cards from around the world, i used to be scared of tarot cards but nowadays i love tarot games, a lot of people think of the rider waite smith deck a lot like its a gold standard, i was able to get the loka deck a long time ago on amazon, hard to find tarock there but ebay looks promising
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH
Huh so its like pinochle
Italians didn't try very much. :P Germans made much better looking cards.
Well, to be fair this is in a style of a very old deck, several centuries older than the "German" decks you probably mean. Hence the wonkier art style.
@@robkov80 Are you Hungarian? Is Tarok popular in Hungary? Greetings from Poland.
@@plrc4593 Greetings! I'm Hungarian, yes. Tarokk has some following in Hungary. Many people don't even know about it though, so I'm not sure about the overall popularity, but there are regular tournaments, so those few who know it, like it a lot.
@@robkov80 In Poland tarok is rather completly unknown. Everybody associates tarot only with divination. I didn't know Tarok untill recently. I've resently discovered they play Tarok in southern Poland in a rather very small area (they even organize "International Tarok Championships" :D) and I was very surprised.
the german tarock is just overly "elegant" and detailed in design. Theres something just wrong about playing with a romantic-era landscape and copperplate capitals on one's cards. spanish-suited decks are the best-feeling to me, though i admit a lot of them aren't great, especially the many-swords designs.