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That's awesome. Where is your family from? Even in Austria, every group plays slightly differently. Then in Slovenia, Czechia, Hungary etc they have their own variants which can be quite different. These traditional games are largely learnt socially, so a game of telephone is a good description for how the rules evolve :)

⁠@@learntarotcardgames54I’m from the United States. But my family’s origins trace back most likely to Bavaria. So far it’s one of the few German things my family has seemed to hand down to successive generations.

@@jacobschneider1455 ah, that's very interesting. It might be the Bavarian game Tarock then, which is a different part of the family (related to games like Frog)? You should join our Discord, people would be very interested to hear of a Tarock variant still played in the US! There are a few Czech communities in Texas and Nebraska and places that maintain their own versions too. discord.gg/bGQvjWT86C

nevermind just found it myself

I got it when it was a Kickstarter campaign. You might be able to buy direct from the artist, but I'm not sure.

I can see the similarities. Plays quite differently in terms of strategy, but for an American audience Pitch is probably the only point-trick game they're familiar with.

Yes, there are tarot games where card points are counted singularly, and also ones without bidding. The bidding isn't too bad once you've played enough hands to know what a strong-ish hand looks like, but then I'm comparing with games like Königrufen that have a much crazier list of bids available :) Have a look through the rest of my channel for the variations that exist around Europe.

To answer question 2 - it's just for historical reasons. The games that came to Europe with the cards from the Middle East and Asia also reversed the order of two of the suits compared to the others. This tradition doesn't really change anything in the games, but it has remained in all tarot games except French and Sicilian. Although I know some people who play Italian tarocchi games from Piedmont/Liguria (where they use a full 78-card deck) but with all four suits in "normal" ranking.

BTW I also enjoy Jass a lot, including the bottoms-up contracts. Have played a couple of tournaments of 3p Coiffeur Jass, which is not common in Switzerland, but is a very fun game. If you are interested in talking about this kind of stuff, drop me an email and I'll invite you to our Discord server.

Hi there - this card has different names in different traditions. In Florence, this card was historically called the "la Casa del diavolo" which means "house of the devil", but in the Tarot de Marseille it's often "la maison dieu" (the house of God). On modern English decks it's usually "The Tower". As you can see, historically this deck actually didn't put a name on all the trumps like a modern tarot deck does (or like e.g. the Tarot de Marseille). You might be interested in checking out the traditional Sicilian Tarot (Tarocco Siciliano) which has the Tower, but it's intact and not being struck by lightning etc like in the ones people in English-speaking countries are familiar with. Hope that helps!

Thanks!! If you're interested, I also have videos explaining the traditional game this deck was used for in the Middle Ages until the early 20th century (and still is among some enthusiasts).

I got them from Amazon... Just google "Tarocco Bolognese". Other than that, it's hard outside Italy but there are some guys in North America who might have them - try contacting Tarot Bear's Lair or Tarock.net for online options. Good luck!

I don’t know if most games count the fool as a trump card so I’d say there are 21. Anyway, yeah French tarot and the bolognese one and more use the trump cards. If anything the fool is treated like a joker, and it’s probably where the jokers came from if I had to guess

@@nynthes Hi there - the joker in a regular deck of cards is actually not connected with the fool from a tarot deck, although many guess that. Jokers were a much later invention, from around the 1850s in the US specifically for Euchre. As for the trumps, I'll put the answer in the reply above ^

Hi there - there's no specific reason why it's 21 (or 22 depending whether the fool is highest trump, or whether it's an excuse card), it's just the tradition. Many tarot/tarock games remove suit cards to shorten the deck down to 54 or even 42 cards (such as all the Central European games) but very few games remove any trumps. Some Austrian tarock games like Zwanzigerrufen remove a couple of the low trumps, but those are about the only ones I know. As for whether it's important for gameplay - in some of the games in the family it actually creates the whole vibe. For example in Hungarian Tarokk you have 22 trumps, but only 5 cards in each regular suit. So the majority of the deck is trumps, which creates a very different game to regular deck games like Bridge etc.

@@learntarotcardgames54 thanks for the info!

Hi there, best option is just to search for Tarocco Bolognese online, you can find decks on Amazon etc. Maybe try Tarot Bear's Lair also?

Well, the traditional tarot games are all trick-takers, so I guess they might be similar to your game!

Nice! I have a video on Königrufen, which was Freud's favourite game - the main Austrian version of Tarock.

Yeah, I need to check out some more of the repro decks :)

Yeah, I'm looking forward to her new one! I bought it on Kickstarter (printing now, so it's coming hopefully in the next few months) - you can find her on Instagram @minchiate.tarot , I reckon there's a good chance she'll be able to send you a deck once she's fulfilled the Kickstarter pledges.

Hi there. Correct... people in the old days used to hold 20 cards in their hand and have to flick through to see what they had. But you're also on the right track with the familiarity with the deck mattering - corner indexes on cards are relatively recent, and so in the old days people would just be very familiar with the artwork. Once you're used to it, it works better than you'd initially image. There are many decks around Europe that *still* don't have indexes - the Tarocco Bolognese for example, where only a few of the trumps have numbers on them. Or most traditional Italian 40-card decks for Scopa/Briscola. Then weird ones like the Tarocco Siciliano, which *does* have indexes, but on the top right corner, which most players cover over when they fan them out...

Hi again, yeah - there are a couple of Tarot variants for 2p. French Tarot is usually either 4p (tournament play) or 5p (more social play) but it has a couple of 2p modes. For a 2p tarot game, there's actually a good traditional one from Genoa that I need to make a video about at some point. Then the central European tarot (Tarock) games mostly vary between 3p and 4p, but some have 2p modes also. Email me and I'll invite you to the Discord where we research and share these kinds of rulesets :)

Hi there. This deck is for the traditional game of Tarocchi as played in Sicily. There are also people who use it for card reading, but I don't know anything much about it. I will have a tutorial on the game of Tarocco Siciliano later.

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Not exactly the same, but it's related. This is the Austrian version, then Taroky is usually the name for the Czech version. Same deck and same basic gameplay, but usually in Czech Taroky you call trump XIX to be your partner instead of a king. Bidding is a bit different too. I'll make a video on Czech taroky one day.

Yeah, I have a couple of friends who are fairly conservative Christians and find it hard to convince their friends that tarot games are ok to play :)

Probably worth remembering that some Christian sects (Puritans, Mennonites) will not use the standard pack of cards because of its associations with gambling and divination. In 1906, Parker Brothers introduced the game 'Rook', with a pack of cards with colors instead of suits (sorry if this makes no sense in French) and numbered cards replacing the Ace, King, Queen, and Jack (and Cavalier, since there are 14 cards in each color) to provide an acceptable alternative.