That comment about playing poker with a tarot deck makes me think you guys need to do an episode on tarocchini, the card game that _originated_ the tarot deck in Renaissance Italy. (Disputes over the rules should be settled with rapiers for maximum historical accuracy.)
42 is really big in my family. We always have a table with Dominos at every gathering. I had no idea it was linked to our Baptist heritage. I love this game. I've never played with points before, though. We've only used marks. (First to "ALL" if you get the reference) Glad to see y'all sharing this amazing game with more people.
Okay, learning that Brian talked to Shatner during dinner about wave-particle duality and the double-slit experiment just makes me so jealous. I mean, yes, I have a physics PhD, and yes -- of course -- I'm a Trek fan, so that would have been an awesome conversation to me.
This is the official game of the college of agriculture at Texas A&M. My buddy and I used to hustle 42 for beer at the Dixie Chicken when we had no money.
I’d love to see you guys (try to) learn a hanafuda game like koi-koi! It’s seems like it’d be up your alley; intricate cards, incredibly complicated, and opportunities to gamble your win away on a double or nothing!
@@BryceCastillo As far as I know there aren’t any words involved. Maybe if instructions are included but otherwise I think it’s just pretty cards. But you’re right about hanafuda being old enough to get a translation, so either way I don’t think they would need to worry about a language barrier.
This is genuinely one of the most heartwarming things I've seen on the Internet in a long time and I haven't even watched the video yet. 42 is a rite of passage in my family, and my dad even found out one of our ancestors lived in the county it was created in _when_ it was created. I've always enjoyed you guys' videos, and it makes me really happy to know you've discovered this great game!
“I tried playing poker with Tarot cards one time” I know that’s meant to be a spooky-esque joke but one of my relatives has a deck of playing cards that I believe is comprised of or mimics the Lesser Arcana cards. So you can actually play poker with tarot cards 🤣🤣
a theory about the origin of tarot cards was that it was made to play cards so i think playing poker with tarot cards is exactly what it was made for lol
A “standard” (in NA anyway) 52-card deck is most of the minor arcana. Jeu de Tarot is a pretty good game, too. There are other games that use tarot cards as well, like Le Plateau.
@@DarleneLesmana it's no theory, though. That's literally what Italians created them for. French Tarot (Jeu de Tarot), Tapp Tarock, Scarto, Tarocco Bolognese, Tarocco Siciliano, Koenigrufen, Paskevics, Troccas, Troggu, Mitigatti, Taroky, Cego, they're all tarot games, many of them with a long tradition (especially tarocco bolognese) though all of them are point trick-takers rather than vying games
I've been playing this game since I was 4 years old, and thought it would be interesting to see it explained out! Wow, glad I learned early, since this seems complicated otherwise!! haha
My family has always played this. The only weird thing in the description versus how we play was the count. They count towards the points for the hand. Sometimes, a player will ask the count, and that means how many points that you have accumulated in the hand so far. Sometimes this is frowned upon, maybe because it slows the game. But you don't call them points, because that's confusing. When you bid, you get marks. You get marks based on bids, which are based on the count. We play to seven marks in a single game. You win a bid and you make it, you get a mark. Unless you bid 42, and someone else bids 84, in which case you get two marks. And unless you play nello, where you attempt to take no tricks the whole hand, and you can do that 1 mark, or 2 marks if you're losing by enough. We score the marks as the lines seen in "ALL" so a game might end "AI vs ALL" or if it is closer "ALI to ALL". Easier than counting every point, and it means you often don't have to finish a hand out once you've made your bid.
This is an excellent video for a beginner. I appreciate all of the questions that were asked an answered because I had the same questions. Thanks guys!
this is like a card game we call "Americano". the person that wins the bid gets to decide which suit is the Trump suit and then you throw out the lowest card of that suit on the table and ask for the highest of that suit you don't have. so say, your hand is: Ace, king Queen, ten, 8, 7 and 2 of diamonds, you throw down the 2 and ask for the jack of diamonds and whoever has the jack of diamonds is your partner for that hand and only that hand.
I live in Ohio and my this is a game passed down in my family since before I was born. Entire family from ohio. We play with slightly different rules (bidding is a free-for-all, lowest bid is 31, we score in points not marks, if you lose when you bid instead of the other team getting your bid points they count as negative against you, points to win is 100, highest bidder goes, and if no one bids, dominoes are re-shuffled). No one else up here in Ohio knows this game. (Though almost everyone knows Euchre (the playing card version of 42)) I have no idea how a Texas native game came into our family almost 100 years ago. Maybe my family came up with it on their own separate from the ppl in Texas, (that could explain the rule variations)
damn your video editor is a pro, there are quite some days behind this. May i ask what software or set of software was used to make all those animations?
This isn't Spades, this is Bridge bidding, play and scoring. The difference and confusion comes from the way the "cards" change suit and value from hand-to-hand. And the lack of a Dummy hand for the Winning bidder to play alone.
Jason's joke about the tarot cards is a steven wright bit- I was playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and five guys died 🤣 I learned this game on playing cards, and we played for a few years. Learned it as blackout whist, and we'd bid on the number of tricks we'd take. The gameplay mechanics were basically hearts, but spades are trump, and the number of tricks you take matters
21:01 WAIT?? Jeff wins because the 4 of 1s contains a 4. Thus the trump. But the lead suit is 1s? Next hand Brian tries the same thing with the 4 of 6s but isn't allowed to because the trump is always the suit? Is that a trip up or did I not understand what happened?
I had to think a bit about this one as well. Jeff didn't have a 1, since it was a trump it is a 4:1, not a 1:4. So he had to play something that's not a 1. Brian had a six, the 6:0, and therefore can't play the 4:6 (since 4 is trump it's not a 6:4). Might help to look at the layout at around 7:40
Neoflubb has the right idea but to put it into other words, the thing you might be having trouble with is suit priority like just like Brian did even later in the video. Reminder: the rules compel a player to play a lead seat domino if they have one. With Jeff's situation: he didn't have a lead suit domino at all, so he's allowed to play any domino in his hand without issue. The suit is always determined by the higher value pips, and trumps are always higher than leads, so that 4-1 could never flip to play the lead suit. It has to be a 4-1 for the entire hand. He didn't play that domino to match the lead, it's just coincidental that the domino had a 1 in it. With Brian's situation: he *DOES* have a lead suit domino with the 6-0, so he has no option but to play it. For the same reason as before, his 4-6 is locked into the trump suit so it's not a viable option. But if he didn't have the 6-0, he would have been in exactly Jeff's situation and could have played the 4-6 or 2-2. I put this into the rules explanation at 8:28 with this exact situation to hopefully quell some of these confusions, but I'm aware it's a lot of info to take in.
Question on a particular scenario: If 2 is the trump suite, and 6 is the lead suite, but I don’t have a 6 lead to play, but I have the 2-6 trump domino, am I allowed to play that trump domino? Or do I have to play a different garbage domino?
Only the first domino played on a trick is "lead" and establishes the "lead suit" for the trick, all other players must "follow suit", i.e. play a domino of the same suit if possible. If you cannot follow suit (6 in this case), you may play any domino in your hand, including trumps. Also note that dominoes of the trump suit count ONLY as the trump suit: the 2-6 is not a 6 while 2 is trump. I hope this helps.
I'm a little confused. I learned to play where you didn't have to follow suit if you had a Trump in hand. At 18:08 the teacher said he can't use the Trump with 15 on the table because he had 5s since that was the lead suit. However he turned around at 19:56 and said he could play the trump and take the lead. With the Trump called at 4, the 6-4 is a Trump 4 with high pip of 6 winning any hand other than a 4-4. Effectively at 18:08 the teacher gave bad information that took away the other team from scoring 25 points. Am I wrong in this understanding?
At 18:08, he can’t use the 4-6 trump because he has 5-lead dominoes, in which case he HAS to play one of those because 5 is the lead suit for that trick. At 19:56 the instructor uses his trump domino because he doesn’t have a 2-lead domino to play, as 2 is the lead suit in this trick. Therefore he can play whichever of his dominos he chooses. That’s my newbie understanding, hope it helps😅
What happens if someone doesnt follow suite when they can, and hands are hidden? IN the practice game someone else can go "no, you have to play xyz instead" but with hidden hands?
I don't know about this game, but in Euchre (a very similar game) when someone doesn't follow suit it is up to the other team to catch them in it. For example, if they don't follow suit one round and then play that suit in a later round, the opponents can see that they have that suit and should have followed before. In that case, the team who didn't follow suit loses the hand.
First, it's left up to integrity. If you make a mistake, call yourself on it and give the opposing team the mark. Otherwise, all the tricks are kept face up. You should watch for whatbis played and keep up. You can call someone on it and take the mark.
Maybe I misheard but it sounded like when the Trump was 4s a 4/6 didn't beat a 6/6 when 6/6 was played first but when the Trump was 5a a 5/6 was able to beat a 6/6 when the 6/6 was played first. Wtf?
The issue in both cases is that dominoes of the trump suit count ONLY as the trump suit. In the first scenario, he couldn’t play the 4-6 because he had to follow suit with a 6 and the 4-6 is not a 6 while 4 is trump so he had to play the 6-0, his only 6. Now, if he didn’t have the 6-0 he could have played anything, including the 4-6, which would have beaten the 6-6. In the second scenario, he played the 6-6 with the idea that it may force a player to follow suit with the 5-6, but as Brad pointed out this doesn’t work because the 5-6 is not a 6 while 5 is trump. The 5-6 could only have been played if the player holding it was not holding any sixes, but even then they would not be compelled to do so. However, if the 5-6 actually WAS played, it would have beaten the 6-6. I hope this helps.
Ngl, the bid part makes no sense whatsoever. For people that played Sueca and Scopa, you can basically just set the victory on a round by points made, shifting “dealers” each round. Also, in a way to prevent some forced trump trumping, you can set the trump using a die. Game’s cool but the bidding bit is kinda lame
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That comment about playing poker with a tarot deck makes me think you guys need to do an episode on tarocchini, the card game that _originated_ the tarot deck in Renaissance Italy. (Disputes over the rules should be settled with rapiers for maximum historical accuracy.)
French tarot is actually very similar to this game. So it's pretty interesting it got brought up
It's a Steven Wright joke. Great comedian! Happy the modern rogues like him too!
As a person that loves to play Spades and Euchre, it was at 7:28 I realized these game designing kids were genius.
I always wondered how that word was spelled.
Trick-taking games really do feel like there’s more skill than most others. That’s what I enjoy.
42 is really big in my family. We always have a table with Dominos at every gathering. I had no idea it was linked to our Baptist heritage. I love this game. I've never played with points before, though. We've only used marks. (First to "ALL" if you get the reference) Glad to see y'all sharing this amazing game with more people.
It’s big in our family also, and it gets very competitive.
Okay, learning that Brian talked to Shatner during dinner about wave-particle duality and the double-slit experiment just makes me so jealous. I mean, yes, I have a physics PhD, and yes -- of course -- I'm a Trek fan, so that would have been an awesome conversation to me.
Wow never knew the origins. I live about 15 minutes from Garner Tx. And right off of Garner Rd. 😮
This is the official game of the college of agriculture at Texas A&M. My buddy and I used to hustle 42 for beer at the Dixie Chicken when we had no money.
Ay Whoop!
Lol, the A&M version has way to many rules for me. I prefer a much more relaxing game.
Didn't know your editor-in-chief was Solid Snake. Also glad you guys are FINALLY doing long-form videos again instead of being a shorts channel.
I’d love to see you guys (try to) learn a hanafuda game like koi-koi! It’s seems like it’d be up your alley; intricate cards, incredibly complicated, and opportunities to gamble your win away on a double or nothing!
I wondered about this the other day, do they make a version of that that works in English? I guess someone would have given how old hanafuda is
@@BryceCastillo As far as I know there aren’t any words involved. Maybe if instructions are included but otherwise I think it’s just pretty cards. But you’re right about hanafuda being old enough to get a translation, so either way I don’t think they would need to worry about a language barrier.
This is genuinely one of the most heartwarming things I've seen on the Internet in a long time and I haven't even watched the video yet. 42 is a rite of passage in my family, and my dad even found out one of our ancestors lived in the county it was created in _when_ it was created. I've always enjoyed you guys' videos, and it makes me really happy to know you've discovered this great game!
the editing in MR episodes just gets better and better love u editors mwah
Learning this feels like sitting down to play a boardgame with friends and them taking out Betrayal at House on the Hill.
This seems very similar to Wizard. I’m definitely going to introduce this to the repertoire.
I love these old board games episodes. You guys should consider doing cribbage, crokinole, or mahjong. I would love to watch any of those.
Love this game, learned it at family reunions and played it lots in college - lots of fun, especially with a beer and good company
This is like Euchre and Pinochle had a a baby…and it was good.
“I tried playing poker with Tarot cards one time”
I know that’s meant to be a spooky-esque joke but one of my relatives has a deck of playing cards that I believe is comprised of or mimics the Lesser Arcana cards. So you can actually play poker with tarot cards 🤣🤣
a theory about the origin of tarot cards was that it was made to play cards so i think playing poker with tarot cards is exactly what it was made for lol
There are quite a few games that use the minor arcana tarot cards. Konigsrufen being one, I think.
A “standard” (in NA anyway) 52-card deck is most of the minor arcana. Jeu de Tarot is a pretty good game, too. There are other games that use tarot cards as well, like Le Plateau.
@@DarleneLesmana it's no theory, though. That's literally what Italians created them for.
French Tarot (Jeu de Tarot), Tapp Tarock, Scarto, Tarocco Bolognese, Tarocco Siciliano, Koenigrufen, Paskevics, Troccas, Troggu, Mitigatti, Taroky, Cego, they're all tarot games, many of them with a long tradition (especially tarocco bolognese)
though all of them are point trick-takers rather than vying games
I've been playing this game since I was 4 years old, and thought it would be interesting to see it explained out! Wow, glad I learned early, since this seems complicated otherwise!! haha
I've been playing 42 every week for several years now. Really fun game, def recommend.
This is basically spades done with dominoes.
My family has always played this.
The only weird thing in the description versus how we play was the count. They count towards the points for the hand. Sometimes, a player will ask the count, and that means how many points that you have accumulated in the hand so far. Sometimes this is frowned upon, maybe because it slows the game. But you don't call them points, because that's confusing. When you bid, you get marks. You get marks based on bids, which are based on the count.
We play to seven marks in a single game. You win a bid and you make it, you get a mark. Unless you bid 42, and someone else bids 84, in which case you get two marks. And unless you play nello, where you attempt to take no tricks the whole hand, and you can do that 1 mark, or 2 marks if you're losing by enough. We score the marks as the lines seen in "ALL" so a game might end "AI vs ALL" or if it is closer "ALI to ALL". Easier than counting every point, and it means you often don't have to finish a hand out once you've made your bid.
That's how we play. And we like variations like plunge, doubles as trump and no trump.
This is the only gameplay on TH-cam in the past 5 years
It’s like Euchre but with dominos and more complicated bidding/scoring
42 looks incredibly fun. I have family that would enjoy it.
This is an excellent video for a beginner. I appreciate all of the questions that were asked an answered because I had the same questions. Thanks guys!
Thought you was gonna win at the end there Brian, no choice but to flip the table I guess.
I grew up playing 42. It’s a great game
It sounds like Euchre with dominos. I gotta teach this to others. Looks like a fun campground drinking game.
My grandparents are from the panhandle and they play this game!
(Brian) "A little bit 'drinky' at the time..." DRUNK! 😆😆
this is like a card game we call "Americano". the person that wins the bid gets to decide which suit is the Trump suit and then you throw out the lowest card of that suit on the table and ask for the highest of that suit you don't have. so say, your hand is: Ace, king Queen, ten, 8, 7 and 2 of diamonds, you throw down the 2 and ask for the jack of diamonds and whoever has the jack of diamonds is your partner for that hand and only that hand.
This is where I learned Spades is basically Euchre
This sounds allot like the card game Hasenpfeffer. You should do a video on that too!
I live in Ohio and my this is a game passed down in my family since before I was born. Entire family from ohio. We play with slightly different rules (bidding is a free-for-all, lowest bid is 31, we score in points not marks, if you lose when you bid instead of the other team getting your bid points they count as negative against you, points to win is 100, highest bidder goes, and if no one bids, dominoes are re-shuffled). No one else up here in Ohio knows this game. (Though almost everyone knows Euchre (the playing card version of 42)) I have no idea how a Texas native game came into our family almost 100 years ago. Maybe my family came up with it on their own separate from the ppl in Texas, (that could explain the rule variations)
Looks like the Santa from Happy! really cleaned himself up
That looks awesome to play I will try it thank you
damn your video editor is a pro, there are quite some days behind this. May i ask what software or set of software was used to make all those animations?
Thanks! Animations were made in Adobe After Effects.
I had no idea you could score WITHOUT marks that's crazy!!
This reminds me so much of the Italian game Briscola
Love 42! And moon!
Bridge, Spades, 42, Trupchal, etc: if you have enjoyed this game as a youngin' or an adult, we are kindred spirits!
Ooh Mna I miss playing 42 the Best DOmino Game EVER
I think you guys should play Rules of Mao
Thanks for the tutorial
any chance you guys went over train style dominos while you were at it?
Always happy to learn another domino game. Have to try this one - can it scale up to double 9 or double 12 sets I wonder?
I love how I can almost hear theese two have so many questions that the explainer just said fuck it we're doing an explain segment.
TBH... one of the cameras crapped the bed and we lost a whole hour of footage. Brandt did an amazing job of covering it up. -Brian
You guys should do mahjong next!
This isn't Spades, this is Bridge bidding, play and scoring. The difference and confusion comes from the way the "cards" change suit and value from hand-to-hand. And the lack of a Dummy hand for the Winning bidder to play alone.
This game is 🔥
i like this fella, he's a cool fella
It's euchre with dominoes.
Jason's joke about the tarot cards is a steven wright bit- I was playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and five guys died 🤣
I learned this game on playing cards, and we played for a few years. Learned it as blackout whist, and we'd bid on the number of tricks we'd take. The gameplay mechanics were basically hearts, but spades are trump, and the number of tricks you take matters
That thumbnail freaked me out for a bit 😅
What happen to the Scooby Doo theme eps? Been waiting for it for few years now lol.
I was here when this video's title was something else.
21:01 WAIT?? Jeff wins because the 4 of 1s contains a 4. Thus the trump.
But the lead suit is 1s?
Next hand Brian tries the same thing with the 4 of 6s but isn't allowed to because the trump is always the suit?
Is that a trip up or did I not understand what happened?
I had to think a bit about this one as well. Jeff didn't have a 1, since it was a trump it is a 4:1, not a 1:4. So he had to play something that's not a 1. Brian had a six, the 6:0, and therefore can't play the 4:6 (since 4 is trump it's not a 6:4). Might help to look at the layout at around 7:40
Neoflubb has the right idea but to put it into other words, the thing you might be having trouble with is suit priority like just like Brian did even later in the video. Reminder: the rules compel a player to play a lead seat domino if they have one.
With Jeff's situation: he didn't have a lead suit domino at all, so he's allowed to play any domino in his hand without issue. The suit is always determined by the higher value pips, and trumps are always higher than leads, so that 4-1 could never flip to play the lead suit. It has to be a 4-1 for the entire hand. He didn't play that domino to match the lead, it's just coincidental that the domino had a 1 in it.
With Brian's situation: he *DOES* have a lead suit domino with the 6-0, so he has no option but to play it. For the same reason as before, his 4-6 is locked into the trump suit so it's not a viable option. But if he didn't have the 6-0, he would have been in exactly Jeff's situation and could have played the 4-6 or 2-2.
I put this into the rules explanation at 8:28 with this exact situation to hopefully quell some of these confusions, but I'm aware it's a lot of info to take in.
very cool
If we have an idea for a desperate defense video, is there an email or sometimg we can send it to?
shut up & sit down crossover when?
I genuinely couldnt tell if this was an april fools joke or not
Question on a particular scenario:
If 2 is the trump suite, and 6 is the lead suite, but I don’t have a 6 lead to play, but I have the 2-6 trump domino, am I allowed to play that trump domino? Or do I have to play a different garbage domino?
Only the first domino played on a trick is "lead" and establishes the "lead suit" for the trick, all other players must "follow suit", i.e. play a domino of the same suit if possible. If you cannot follow suit (6 in this case), you may play any domino in your hand, including trumps. Also note that dominoes of the trump suit count ONLY as the trump suit: the 2-6 is not a 6 while 2 is trump. I hope this helps.
I find it hilarious that this game was invented in Garner. I'm not far from there.
Sadly there is no shrine or monument there :(
I'm a little confused. I learned to play where you didn't have to follow suit if you had a Trump in hand. At 18:08 the teacher said he can't use the Trump with 15 on the table because he had 5s since that was the lead suit. However he turned around at 19:56 and said he could play the trump and take the lead. With the Trump called at 4, the 6-4 is a Trump 4 with high pip of 6 winning any hand other than a 4-4. Effectively at 18:08 the teacher gave bad information that took away the other team from scoring 25 points. Am I wrong in this understanding?
At 18:08, he can’t use the 4-6 trump because he has 5-lead dominoes, in which case he HAS to play one of those because 5 is the lead suit for that trick. At 19:56 the instructor uses his trump domino because he doesn’t have a 2-lead domino to play, as 2 is the lead suit in this trick. Therefore he can play whichever of his dominos he chooses. That’s my newbie understanding, hope it helps😅
So it’s euchre but with dominos? I can get behind that
This sounds similar to spades
What happens if someone doesnt follow suite when they can, and hands are hidden?
IN the practice game someone else can go "no, you have to play xyz instead" but with hidden hands?
I don't know about this game, but in Euchre (a very similar game) when someone doesn't follow suit it is up to the other team to catch them in it. For example, if they don't follow suit one round and then play that suit in a later round, the opponents can see that they have that suit and should have followed before. In that case, the team who didn't follow suit loses the hand.
First, it's left up to integrity. If you make a mistake, call yourself on it and give the opposing team the mark.
Otherwise, all the tricks are kept face up. You should watch for whatbis played and keep up. You can call someone on it and take the mark.
Y’all should learn mahjong
do not bet all in when playing poker with tarot.
Did they ever learn how to play actual mahjong, the one that's kinda like Gin
So this is like... Domino Bridge?
kinda!
Maybe I misheard but it sounded like when the Trump was 4s a 4/6 didn't beat a 6/6 when 6/6 was played first but when the Trump was 5a a 5/6 was able to beat a 6/6 when the 6/6 was played first. Wtf?
The issue in both cases is that dominoes of the trump suit count ONLY as the trump suit. In the first scenario, he couldn’t play the 4-6 because he had to follow suit with a 6 and the 4-6 is not a 6 while 4 is trump so he had to play the 6-0, his only 6. Now, if he didn’t have the 6-0 he could have played anything, including the 4-6, which would have beaten the 6-6. In the second scenario, he played the 6-6 with the idea that it may force a player to follow suit with the 5-6, but as Brad pointed out this doesn’t work because the 5-6 is not a 6 while 5 is trump. The 5-6 could only have been played if the player holding it was not holding any sixes, but even then they would not be compelled to do so. However, if the 5-6 actually WAS played, it would have beaten the 6-6. I hope this helps.
8:55 Brant, wouldn't it have been the square that won the trick? it's 2|3 and you have 2|2 winning....
Nope, remember that doubles are always the highest rank for every suit.
@@BrandtHughes doh't.... Thanks
This game kind of reminds me of Rook.
is this texas majiang?
Closer to Texas Tien Gow
More like this!
Is it just me or does this guy look like David Allen Coe
How do you determine the trump suit again
This is too easy, we all know that answer to everything in 42.
So, why does the editor look like he is about to round house kick some guy through a window?
R-O-U-G-E Spell it right!
Reminds me of rook
Completly missed the trump play in the first hand, double ace was trumped.
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Ngl, the bid part makes no sense whatsoever. For people that played Sueca and Scopa, you can basically just set the victory on a round by points made, shifting “dealers” each round. Also, in a way to prevent some forced trump trumping, you can set the trump using a die. Game’s cool but the bidding bit is kinda lame
30 as the minimum bid seems too high.
Awesome job, @gatowag
thanks pal!
So basically spades? I f*cking HATE spades