What? A reupload? Some people have expressed not loving muti part videos and I'm not a fan of them either. You've probably noticed I stopped doing them entirely. So I just wanted to clean up the channel a bit and make viewing sessions more enjoyable. Pizza everybody!
I was here with the thought "a new video to watch", then I started watching and I realized that I've watched this before, that's when I read this comment
The portrayal of Vader in the main media is how characters SHOULD be treated: with respect and with continuity to the lore. Vader is Sidious’s Lieutenant, and the Dark Lord of the Sith. Average padawans and jedi knights SHOULD NOT be winning against him and portraying Vader as an ethereal personification of the dark side is perfect in that era
I love that they didn't go straight for the Imperial March with Vader. They brought it in when he ambushes you in the corridor, but they go with _Anakin's Dark Deeds_ at first, and that really suits the feeling Vader's appearance evokes.
I'm kind of glad that happened, I remember thinking how pissed I would be if a survivor who came from a ship graveyard would defeat Darth Vader. It just wouldn't make sense
I love how when we see Vader, just like most of the other times we see a character that is currently too strong for the player, a ''wall'' starts to separate us to save us by preventing the fight (like with Trilla and the red energy wall), but when we expect it to keep us safe from him, he just slams that shit open to get to us.
And even when we get to the elevator we think "I'm safe at last" but then the camera pans over and BOOM, there he is. It got at least my heart pumping again.
this is probably the best way to handle the mythos of vader. a powerhouse who is matched in lightsaber combat and force strength by a mere handful across an entire galaxy. the fact that he just rips everything in his way to shreds with nary a thought is icing on top.
@@DSkulle1 Only a few can match his force power, and only a few can match his combat skills. Even fewer still that can do both. He’s just stupidly powerful.
@@TheUnderscore_ the suit AND his lost body mass, while still insanely powerful ( with the suit enhancing his physical strength to the near maximum ) his connection to the force was greatly reduced because of the midichlorians he lost when he became an amputee.
The VA for Cal is actually a pretty well accomplished actor with a starring role in Shameless and he also played a main villain in Gotham on Fox for years. I could definitely see him showing up in a Disney plus series
I find it kinda hilarious that they COULDN'T give Vader a health bar because if they had someone somewhere would have figured out how to beat him after several weeks of playing non stop
I somehow glitched him into the elevator with me where i could swing at him as much as i want and he just automatically blocks all your attacks, you can't actually even hit him
One of the many things I like about this game is that Cal is a playable Ataru user without feeling ridiculous. It's such a distinctive style of saber combat that is really easy to make it feel floaty and magical, but his movements have weight and feel real.
Seeing how powerful Cere seemed just with the dark side of the Force, we need a chance to see some dark side-style sabering. Next time we play a new Jedi character, they *_have_* to be a Vaapad user.
@@ericwithakay3559 Oh my sweet brother in the Force. May this be your perfect introduction into the 7 Forms of Lightsaber combat. Basically? The Jedi/Sith don't swing their sabers around without some style they haven't practiced. Wether they want to focus on different aspects of swordplay like speed, precision, defense, etc. The playlist I'm linking is solely legends, but the saber forms were made canon so these videos are still relevant. th-cam.com/video/cVF_wAkHYNU/w-d-xo.html (Each video is like 10 minutes each so no overwhelming is to be had) This guy breaks down each form as well as a sub-discipline to each relevant detail and is likely the most comprehensive description of the forms you'll ever get without having to go to Wookiepedia. Edit: He DOES butcher some of the names of the forms (just these three though: Soresu, Niman and Vapaad)
I was also afraid when I saw that Vader lacked a bar. I was thinking "wait wtf-" Like we started off as nothing but a Bracca scrapper. Barely survived the two encounters against Second and managed to take down the Haxion Brood as well as taking down Ninth, reconnecting with the force and even completely destroying all the troopers and 2 AT-STs on Ilum. Then you take on The Fortress and take down Purge Troopers, heavies and literally everything they had in their arsenal. Then you take on Trilla and once you beat her, you feel powerful, like a true fighter. Then Vader comes in and be like "Yeah so I'm God."
I love atrilla's reaction to vader entering the room. Her shaky breath that she's trying to stabilize tells us everything we need to know. She knows that she is fucked. Dead. Donezo. finito. she doesn't say a word, nor try to run, or fight, because she accepted her fate the moment she felt his presence in the force, and is trying to die with a little dignity
Man, everything about Vader's entrance and scene just highlight how incredibly powerful he is. He force tosses pieces of the scenery around like paper, and between fighting Cal and Cere, we only see him use a single two handed swing. A character whose primary combat style revolves around a two handed grip, yet they're using a single hand as they swat your attacks away like flies? Vader isn't a boss fight, he's a horror game monster.
every time i replay the game i deadass stare at greez salting his food rather than looking at the cere/cal interaction. i am so glad i noticed it on my first playthrough
26:25, this line immediately made me realize that even if Cal took up Malicos’s offer, it wouldn’t be any better. “You and Me.” Two there shall be, no more no less. A master and an apprentice. The Rule of Two.
One nice subtle detail I liked in the beginning; when Cal and Prauf are falling there's an Imperial probe droid (maybe even the one from the very start) in the background of the scene. So the Inquisitors showing up right away makes perfect sense; it's not luck or some sensing Cal through the Force, it's the droid seeing the Force usage and being programmed to report it.
@@soulreapermagnum he certainly tapped into his emotions, but I don’t think it’s really the Dark side unless you either wallow in it or use it in self interest. Remember that you can’t feel compassion without passion.
@@twilitlloyd7167 that's true, it's just that the comment in the video about cal using force slow for the first time made me realize that a lot of the times when a jedi pulls off something big it's because they "tapped in to the dark side" so it made me wonder if jaro did the same. also there really needs to be more instances of what you said, a jedi/force user tapping in to there emotions for a bust of power and it not be this big "keep doing that and you'll fall to the dark side" thing.
Same thing happened to Grevious ironically enough. He was told Jedi killed his soldiers and destroyed his body even though he was just recreated and reprogrammed by the trade federation.
@@nafereuskortex9055 Fuck someone gimme a grevious backstory / game, id love to have a total war where you are the grand general trying to take over the galaxy :D
@@odding3472a Greivous game that flashes back and forth between before he was a Separatist warlord and him as cyborg would definitely be super fun. Four armed combat with lightsabers would be peak Star Wars gameplay as well.
Your reaction to Vader made me laugh SO hard, you literally said all the words that came to my mind while playing that sequence (and yes, most of them were curse words). It's, like you said, one of the best Vader scenes ever (tied with his hallway scene in Rogue One, but that's a whole different media field). Keep up the great work!
"Enjoying things is so much better than hating on them." And this is why I watch channels like this one and CinemaWins, instead of CinemaSins and the like.
Not to mention that channels like CinemaSins have no clue what they’re talking about. On some sins they do, but they’re trying so hard to stretch the video out for profit that they just end up saying some of the dumbest things possible. That’s the problem with pure criticism videos, they feel like they have to make them longer for profit so they pull things out of their ass
@@just_delta-2589 i agree with you but the reverse can also be said about the "Wins" channels. They make good points but sometimes contrive wins to reap profit and artificially extend their videos.
@@emmyjr1231 but on the other hand, "Sins" will also occasionally detract sin counts or count one sin as multiple. The former makes a lot of those arbitrary sins even more of a waste.
Another great thing you forgot to mention is that Trilla was terrified of Vader, as the grand inquisitor said in rebels, ‘there are some things more frightening than death’.
I just realized something in the game: The giant creatures (the giant bird on Kasshhyhk and giant bat on Dathomir) you come across remind me of the Mortis gods seen in the Clone Wars, the Light daughter (which its beast form is a giant griffon/bird) and the dark Son (whose animal form is a bat/gargoyle).
@@SupaSillyThyme I don't think Dathomir was really a place that is beyond saving. Just more that it's a place to get lost and fall to the Dark side. Just like how Malicos fell to the Dark side. He was stranded for so long and eventually was drawn to the power within the Zeffo temple.
Fun fact: You know that door Prauf walks through before the initial Venator flashback? Well, if you press the button to open it 66 times without turning around, you can hear Darth Sidious ordering the execution of Order 66.
One of my favorite parts of this game is that you can go to Dathomir right after Bogano with no objective and just explore. Even better, you can get the double bladed lightsaber super early. Of course, the planet is very difficult to get through at this point, but it’s so rewarding.
Yeah, I love Dathomir and went there first and grind through got the double bladed lightsaber that's where I figured out the game shows you where you can go with your current abilities.
8:09 So it's safe to say that, like most first time players, it took him a while to defeat the first of these big frog things. Which is fair as it's placed early on in the game and the player isn't fully ready or equipped to deal with this type of enemy. Really does let you know what kind of game you're in for. And that the comparisons to Dark Souls are valid.
Another win you missed is that there's a (covoluted) way to avoid the three bounty hunters. If you pull it off, you skip that entire level and just get back to the ship absolutely fine... story continues as if you never got captured which I think is some good attention to detail
@@alexmartinez5859 No, you can do it all without console commands. I don't remember how exactly but there's some way you can get around one of the domes of the bounty hunter before you even start the fight
@@owendiaram3870 Sweet. I also know that they had dialogue that basically stated there would be bounty hunters hunting Cal while he was out doing whatever he did in the galaxy. Adding in stuff like that is just great.
Travis Willingham did such a good job as Master Jaro Topal. It took me a while to recognize the voice, whereas at other times I clock his voice immediately
It’s so weird watching someone go to the planets in the “right” order. I’ve played all the way through 3 times and go to Dathomir first for the double lightsaber every single time
I love how greez salting his food is so funny that it overshadows cere vaguely mentioning darth vader so that even though he is mentioned you don’t see his appearance coming at all
When Vader showed up It came out of nowhere but honestly I felt just as scared as any jedi probably would have been while facing him... just felt defeated already like we can't do anything to win and that was pretty awesome
Yeah Cals respond to Vader telling him to surrender hade weight behind it. Cal was scared shitless there he knew he hade no chans to win that fight. And i may be wrong here but apart from that shadow story told earlier i dont think Cal hade even heard of Vader or how powerful he trully was.
I was terrified when I first saw him, and it made the game feel so much more interesting. The link between the player and Cal was so much more immersive than most character and player links.
Jedi Masters probably didn't teach that at the temple, but with no formal training after Order 66 Cal must've just figured out something that works. Likely how Trakata came to be in the first place.
@@Kr0noZ dude thank you for proving a mini theory of mine. This is in league with the Trilogies but my theory was that any Jedi/Sith that came after the Republic era or inexperienced Padawans wouldn't know about the different lightsaber style and would instinctively use their own type of style.
Also: Cyberpunk, Shadowrun, Remember Me. Also, arguably, a Jedi Mind trick is hacking someone's brain, so sequel Cal could find out what it feels like.
@@SentiNel090 Also, let me introduce human hacking, or in other words: Social Engineering. Simple example: You casually say to your partner or parents during breakfast - "I'm kinda craving for fast food". Then after long work/school -day - "Should we order takeout?". Statistically you are far more likely to get positive answer if you prime the idea earlier in the day.
@@TealJosh Also, if you raise the lip of a step just a fraction of an inch; most people will trip. This was one trick used by engineers who built castle fortifications in Europe. Along with slanted and uneven steps, too.
When I watched my younger sibling doing parts of his play through, I came across him doing the fight against Trilla and saw he was having difficulty against her. When he finally beat her I heard Vader's breathing, I just look at him straight,and said "Well... you're fucked." He just shook his head because we just know how terrifying Vader actually is in Star Wars.
@@TheDisneyLover58 Swamp ass does not make it any easier to run. Although what do I know? One of the greatest Jedi masters put up with literal swamp ass for nearly 20 years.
31:43 Spoilers for Jedi survivor below I just realized Vader did the same move In jedi Survivor to kill Cere. He uses the force to shift her to the side.
Gotta retroactively add a win for Malikos, he actually does do the creepy ass laugh when you go back to talk to him. Also, absolutely love your videos man, keep it up and hope you're doing well.
Dude your recap after the game ended is the reason you stand out. I feel like you can tell you really gaf about what you're doing not a lot of people can give off that feeling through a LITTERAL SCREEN AND SPEAKER, insane job bruh. Permanent sub.
Honestly my biggest surprise of this game was that Cal lived at the very end, when Vader showed up I totally expected him to destroy the holocron and then Vader off him right then and there.
@@nephicus339 no, but that stab would have critically injured cal, its likely they used several stims in his sleep to keep him stable. Vader never really tried(maybe against luke or obi wan, but he wasn't Vader against obi wan the first time)
I don't often comment on YT vids but this one was different... I love your ability to evaluate the subject at hand but also derive a compelling lesson to make viewers feel extra emotion and self-worth. Thank you for making this video.
This game is a huge deal especially since this was allowed by EA. It might not make as much money as their microtransaction heavy always online multiplayer games, but it's one of the rare moments when something genuinely good was made by a AAA developer with minimal influence from the publisher. It's honestly one of the best video games of the past decade and I'd love to see a sequel so I can give Respawn more of my money.
It sold more copies than Call of Duty the year it came out. Which has not been done in years since Modern Warfare. Proving that a single player game, when done right, can blow everything out of the water.
I love how more and more media is creating the fear in the viewers that Vader commands in his universe. Also that entrance gives me chills every time I see it
13:01 Brain: 'hears it as: caught you' Eyes: 'Sees text that says "F*ck you"' Brain: 'hears it as F*ck you' *GOD DANGIT IT'S BRAINSTORM V GREEN NEEDLE ALL OVER AGAIN!*
31:44 love how Vader just casually waves his hand and fling Cere to the side. 32:02 also love how he only needed one hand to stop the GINORMOUS pillar. This game just shows how fricking powerful Darth Vader is.
5:10 She’s stalling, not shooting to kill. She knows Trilla will have to prioritize not getting shot, hence she takes her time deflecting and evading each one while making sure not to arrogantly charge forward too fast to deflect the next one. The faster she approached the blaster bolts, the faster they approach her… relatively. She’s her pupil, so she probably knows Trilla won’t actually let herself get shot.
Loved the optimism. Wish we had more in day to day live. Missing it more the older I get. That's why I love you videos. The positivity. Optimism. Thanks bro
Some nice headcanon I have: So in canon, Red lightsaber crystals aren't natural and are created by committing acts of evil to "bleed" a Jedi's crystal. Chances are if Malicos was stranded on Dathomir, they're still the same lightsaber crystals he had as a Jedi - just bled from all of his misdeeds.
@@liamfairhall1062 Then again, after that movie she's literally the last one. Kinda like a guardian to the legacy. (Although she'd have to be a much more well-designed and compelling character for that to actually work, so....)
the thing i loved the most about this game is the order66 easteregg at the beginning, when you get to that door, which prauf disappeared into, that wont open with the button, if you press that button 66 times you can hear palpatine say "Execute Order 66". Its simply amazign when i saw that it was possible
Fucking awesome vid. The hype for FO2 is building. The whole Vader part just brought me back to when I played through it. So. Fucking. Awesome. Also I love this cast especially Merrin. My question how powerful would the child of Merrin and Cal be? Ooft. For a sequel i hope they add a bloody palace and proper decapitation/dismemberments.
As interesting as it would be if they did, I really doubt both Respawn and EA would change the sequal to be R rated when the first game was only pg-13 (I think? Not sure but I’m guessing that’s what it was)
@@wyatthyland9154 yeah. But its not like there needs to be blood gushing cause super hot things cautarise wounds. So have it be textured like charcoal... But yeah i suppose light up bats will have to do
@@wyatthyland9154 Some games have an optional setting for gore and dismemberment. Maybe they could shoot for that? I don't know enough about game development to know how feasible that would even be, though.
Vader's scene is just simply so freaking amazing Vader's sheer strength both physical and in the force He doesn't even have to move and he is tearing everything apart And it's simply so much more scary that he could've been even way more powerful than that if he hadn't lost so much well... body in mustafar
I'm so happy I found your channel. I absolutely love how you take the game sins formula and spin it to the positive as well as how genuine your commentary is. I'm going to go binge some more of your videos. Thank you.
I definitely thought about that, and Cal's "I would feel weird about hacking humans" line seemed to explain why there weren't any Jedi mind tricks in any cutscenes.
1) The Fallen Order theme - especially the version at the title screen, with that really evocative minor second, it life itself. 2) The flourish when Cal reholsters his saber sometimes - with the spin before he hooks it to his belt - love that. 3) Is that really the first time you’ve heard “Imp” as a slur? That goes back at least to the Stackpole Rogue Squadron novels and probably before.
I love how this game shows how destiny plays into the world of Star Wars. everything that happens on Bracca helps Cal survive, and ultimately brings him to saving the lives of multiple innocents and taking down a good chunk of evil in the galaxy, even if it isn't a massive shift in the galaxy like with our trilogies.
16:15, Gordy Haab sounded so familiar. Then I realised that Gordy Haab also composed the music for Ryan vs Dorkman 2, a famous Star Wars fan-film. That's awesome. He went from composing a fan film to an official Star Wars project. Good on him. Also worth noting that Ryan Wieber went on to work for LucasArts as a VFX Artist.
Vader is honest to god terrifying and I love that when he shows up you can see the terror in Trilla’s eyes also still moving while being crushed that’s some Darth Malgus bs
I love how differently Vader treats fighting against Kal or Cere. With Kal it's just brute force and almost zero effort, with Cere there's some technique and precision going on with his moves, and he swings the lightsaber much faster
"and even if you're not, who knows this game could make you one" I played this game after watching most of the Disney Star Wars Movies but this particular game was so absolutely amazing that this is what made me want to watch the original films, and the animated shows and read the comics, so 100% can confirm
I'd like to add Merrin being a potential love interest without making it super zappy and forced. She is there, you feel the tension between the character without it being stated. You can see them as friends or that there are a glint of love in their eyes (the scene after Cal wakes up really shows this). Hopefully if it gets explored in the Sequel it will be done well and not laced with cliche and ridiculous tropes.
I really loved you're take about bringing positive people into your life. I have struggled with that a lot and doing just that has been a huge help for me. That needs to be talked about more
BRO I JUST NOTICED THIS Cal used a lightsaber technique that BOTH the Sith and Jedi rejected at 28:20 he deactivated then re-activated his lightsaber to gain an edge!
What? A reupload? Some people have expressed not loving muti part videos and I'm not a fan of them either. You've probably noticed I stopped doing them entirely. So I just wanted to clean up the channel a bit and make viewing sessions more enjoyable. Pizza everybody!
Love your videos as always next time can you review Force unleashed?
there is other wins
I wonder if he will do fallen order 2 when it comes out later this year
@@alexandergardner2640 ^^
I was here with the thought "a new video to watch", then I started watching and I realized that I've watched this before, that's when I read this comment
Vader shows up
Doesn't bring a health bar
Holds back the ocean
Refuses to elaborate further
Sigma grindset
Sigma Cyborg
Vader: you fool, i don't have a healthbar
Step 4: Profit
The portrayal of Vader in the main media is how characters SHOULD be treated: with respect and with continuity to the lore. Vader is Sidious’s Lieutenant, and the Dark Lord of the Sith. Average padawans and jedi knights SHOULD NOT be winning against him and portraying Vader as an ethereal personification of the dark side is perfect in that era
Lieutenant? He's basically the Crown Prince.
The only guys that I actually believe that could beat Vader were Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Luke and Galen Marek.
@@xLanzer Also Mace Windu and Ashoka probably could, and for the lols, Rey could as well because plot armor.
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 true
You’re saying this as if Vader’s never been portrayed that way 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember seeing Vader and was like: “I’m so fucked” and when the fighting started it was like “Where the fuck is his HP bar!!!?”
Vader is to op he dosent have an hp bar.
He's hp bar is off the charts cause he's to OP
Me I went like can I run yes run Run
I died two times to vader because I panicked too much and didn't notice the tube in the background.
@@levievil9220 Same. As soon as Vader appeared I was like "hell no, I ain't fighting Darth Vader".
I love that they didn't go straight for the Imperial March with Vader. They brought it in when he ambushes you in the corridor, but they go with _Anakin's Dark Deeds_ at first, and that really suits the feeling Vader's appearance evokes.
they really made Darth Vader feel invincible, and im here for it
From the perspective of inexperienced Jedi and even Jedi masters, he is!
Yah they didn’t give him a boss fight you just run for your life
Yeah, he is pretty strong for an asthmatic burn victim and quadruple amputee
How it should be
It really reminds me of the first scene in the first movie with vader the fear of the rebels
I love how the feeling of being an overpowered Jedi badass is ripped away from you once Vader comes into frame
it throws you off your high horse at break neck speed lmao
I'm kind of glad that happened, I remember thinking how pissed I would be if a survivor who came from a ship graveyard would defeat Darth Vader. It just wouldn't make sense
@@pedro33pt3 my force unleashed ptsd just kicked in a bit 😰
@@pedro33pt3 i mean Cal is strong but not that strong
Also seeing how the super OP inquisitor who was so hard to beat just froze in fear and got cut down with one swing… Vader was BRUTAL
I love how when we see Vader, just like most of the other times we see a character that is currently too strong for the player, a ''wall'' starts to separate us to save us by preventing the fight (like with Trilla and the red energy wall), but when we expect it to keep us safe from him, he just slams that shit open to get to us.
And even when we get to the elevator we think "I'm safe at last" but then the camera pans over and BOOM, there he is. It got at least my heart pumping again.
this is probably the best way to handle the mythos of vader. a powerhouse who is matched in lightsaber combat and force strength by a mere handful across an entire galaxy. the fact that he just rips everything in his way to shreds with nary a thought is icing on top.
@@DSkulle1 Only a few can match his force power, and only a few can match his combat skills. Even fewer still that can do both. He’s just stupidly powerful.
@@FlyingPenguin196 And it's crazy thinking Sidious nerfed him with the suit...
@@TheUnderscore_ the suit AND his lost body mass, while still insanely powerful ( with the suit enhancing his physical strength to the near maximum ) his connection to the force was greatly reduced because of the midichlorians he lost when he became an amputee.
The VA for Cal is actually a pretty well accomplished actor with a starring role in Shameless and he also played a main villain in Gotham on Fox for years. I could definitely see him showing up in a Disney plus series
Heh, funny you saw that right before Obiwan
I reckon there is a chance he could show up in obi wan mybe as a cameo, that would be good.
He honestly was the one who really gave me a look into human conflict of being LGBT when I had no prior exposure that walk of life
Luke became the Joker, now the Joker became Cal
i knew the face looked familiar
I noticed that when you look at Vaders entry in the codex it actually says "Running is the only hope for survival"
'hope' not guarantee, which is a great way of putting it.
Added note: Does not work in hallways
@@BrenTenkage Added note: If spotted, do NOT open fire
@@theuberedredspy8791 Added note: if you are a youngling, there is no escape besides death.
@@yesineedtheplasticchairitc3065 added note: your chances of gaining hope will increase if you have pocket sand
I find it kinda hilarious that they COULDN'T give Vader a health bar because if they had someone somewhere would have figured out how to beat him after several weeks of playing non stop
Nah, they made unkillable enemies already so the pretence was already gone.
I somehow glitched him into the elevator with me where i could swing at him as much as i want and he just automatically blocks all your attacks, you can't actually even hit him
@@nafereuskortex9055 he is the unkillible enemy, tapal can be killed with those puking plant things from zeffo
actually, according to Respawn, they kept EA as out of the loop as they could when making Jedi: Fallen Order.
Mega chad
and thank god they did
The best decision a man could ever make
That partly explains why this game is so good
Hopefully that makes ea realise the best thing to do is to let the their studios make the games and not try and interfere
31:10 his reaction to Vader from this to 32:49 it's so priceless lmfao my favorite part was "Ha- I'm glad we're saf- WTF" lmfao
Shit had me rolling
the muffled scream is what gets me lmao
One of the many things I like about this game is that Cal is a playable Ataru user without feeling ridiculous. It's such a distinctive style of saber combat that is really easy to make it feel floaty and magical, but his movements have weight and feel real.
I took his light acrobatics and Force usage as a Niman user. Especially with how his weapon evolves with him.
@@Kyzen_Wrell yeah I thought he was a niman and ataru user with a bit of shii cho
Seeing how powerful Cere seemed just with the dark side of the Force, we need a chance to see some dark side-style sabering. Next time we play a new Jedi character, they *_have_* to be a Vaapad user.
Forgive me but... Ataru? Niman? What are your funny words, magic men?
@@ericwithakay3559 Oh my sweet brother in the Force. May this be your perfect introduction into the 7 Forms of Lightsaber combat. Basically? The Jedi/Sith don't swing their sabers around without some style they haven't practiced. Wether they want to focus on different aspects of swordplay like speed, precision, defense, etc. The playlist I'm linking is solely legends, but the saber forms were made canon so these videos are still relevant.
th-cam.com/video/cVF_wAkHYNU/w-d-xo.html
(Each video is like 10 minutes each so no overwhelming is to be had)
This guy breaks down each form as well as a sub-discipline to each relevant detail and is likely the most comprehensive description of the forms you'll ever get without having to go to Wookiepedia.
Edit: He DOES butcher some of the names of the forms (just these three though: Soresu, Niman and Vapaad)
I was also afraid when I saw that Vader lacked a bar. I was thinking "wait wtf-"
Like we started off as nothing but a Bracca scrapper. Barely survived the two encounters against Second and managed to take down the Haxion Brood as well as taking down Ninth, reconnecting with the force and even completely destroying all the troopers and 2 AT-STs on Ilum. Then you take on The Fortress and take down Purge Troopers, heavies and literally everything they had in their arsenal. Then you take on Trilla and once you beat her, you feel powerful, like a true fighter. Then Vader comes in and be like "Yeah so I'm God."
"Yeah...Hi I'm God and you're dead"
If Vader said that I would have died of fear
I love atrilla's reaction to vader entering the room. Her shaky breath that she's trying to stabilize tells us everything we need to know. She knows that she is fucked. Dead. Donezo. finito. she doesn't say a word, nor try to run, or fight, because she accepted her fate the moment she felt his presence in the force, and is trying to die with a little dignity
She is held in place. She literally can't move. Fear, sure, but that is not why she isn't moving.
@@glitch6140 na she could still talk he would just hold her body in the air
trilla: s#$% what do i pay him wi- ARDGBSEVSVVM
Vader: With your life
Man, everything about Vader's entrance and scene just highlight how incredibly powerful he is. He force tosses pieces of the scenery around like paper, and between fighting Cal and Cere, we only see him use a single two handed swing. A character whose primary combat style revolves around a two handed grip, yet they're using a single hand as they swat your attacks away like flies?
Vader isn't a boss fight, he's a horror game monster.
Horror game monster is still putting it lightly, he's a fucking force of nature
20:17 I'm so glad you noticed the ungodly amount of salt, I laughed my ass off at this scene.
😂😂😂
every time i replay the game i deadass stare at greez salting his food rather than looking at the cere/cal interaction. i am so glad i noticed it on my first playthrough
It’s one of the best scenes in the game bc of this
I was barely paying attention to the dialogue as I was rolling while watching him
23:23 “maybe we’ll see cal be more of a grey Jedi in the next game.” Man predicted the future
Maybe he works at respawn
What you looking at me for IDK?
26:25, this line immediately made me realize that even if Cal took up Malicos’s offer, it wouldn’t be any better. “You and Me.” Two there shall be, no more no less. A master and an apprentice. The Rule of Two.
Holy fuck I love this comment
@@joaquingamarra3248 why thank you.
Having 2 Sith orders would be interesting, would cal be more like the ronin if malicos was killed?
@@myschnozhurts1522 possibly
@@myschnozhurts1522 Malicos would've probably been more of a Dark-leaning Grey/Balanced Force order.
One nice subtle detail I liked in the beginning; when Cal and Prauf are falling there's an Imperial probe droid (maybe even the one from the very start) in the background of the scene. So the Inquisitors showing up right away makes perfect sense; it's not luck or some sensing Cal through the Force, it's the droid seeing the Force usage and being programmed to report it.
dang das cool
When Tepal gets shot and sees Cal cowering, and uses that as strength to take out more clones and save Cal is my favorite part of the game.
reading it like that almost makes me want to ask: did jaro tap into the dark side, there?
@@soulreapermagnum he certainly tapped into his emotions, but I don’t think it’s really the Dark side unless you either wallow in it or use it in self interest. Remember that you can’t feel compassion without passion.
@@twilitlloyd7167 that's true, it's just that the comment in the video about cal using force slow for the first time made me realize that a lot of the times when a jedi pulls off something big it's because they "tapped in to the dark side" so it made me wonder if jaro did the same.
also there really needs to be more instances of what you said, a jedi/force user tapping in to there emotions for a bust of power and it not be this big "keep doing that and you'll fall to the dark side" thing.
I love that the night sisters are believed to think the Jedi are the ones who attacked because Grevious had blue/green lightsabers
Same thing happened to Grevious ironically enough.
He was told Jedi killed his soldiers and destroyed his body even though he was just recreated and reprogrammed by the trade federation.
@@nafereuskortex9055 Fuck someone gimme a grevious backstory / game, id love to have a total war where you are the grand general trying to take over the galaxy :D
@@odding3472 Greivous was a Badass even before he was a cyborg.
@@nafereuskortex9055 im fully aware, he has my favorite backstory in the universe, such a tragedy
@@odding3472a Greivous game that flashes back and forth between before he was a Separatist warlord and him as cyborg would definitely be super fun. Four armed combat with lightsabers would be peak Star Wars gameplay as well.
Your reaction to Vader made me laugh SO hard, you literally said all the words that came to my mind while playing that sequence (and yes, most of them were curse words). It's, like you said, one of the best Vader scenes ever (tied with his hallway scene in Rogue One, but that's a whole different media field). Keep up the great work!
4:10 is my favorite part in the whole game. Just how Trilla barely reacts aside from saying “Fascinating”. Gives me chills every time
"Enjoying things is so much better than hating on them."
And this is why I watch channels like this one and CinemaWins, instead of CinemaSins and the like.
Not to mention that channels like CinemaSins have no clue what they’re talking about. On some sins they do, but they’re trying so hard to stretch the video out for profit that they just end up saying some of the dumbest things possible. That’s the problem with pure criticism videos, they feel like they have to make them longer for profit so they pull things out of their ass
@@just_delta-2589 i agree with you but the reverse can also be said about the "Wins" channels.
They make good points but sometimes contrive wins to reap profit and artificially extend their videos.
CinemaSins don’t actually hate stuff. It’s just their brand really. Them saying vaguely nice things about a movie is met with confusion and shit even
You would love Th3 Birdman
@@emmyjr1231 but on the other hand, "Sins" will also occasionally detract sin counts or count one sin as multiple. The former makes a lot of those arbitrary sins even more of a waste.
Another great thing you forgot to mention is that Trilla was terrified of Vader, as the grand inquisitor said in rebels, ‘there are some things more frightening than death’.
Vader: death should not be feared, you should welcome it gladly
I just realized something in the game:
The giant creatures (the giant bird on Kasshhyhk and giant bat on Dathomir) you come across remind me of the Mortis gods seen in the Clone Wars, the Light daughter (which its beast form is a giant griffon/bird) and the dark Son (whose animal form is a bat/gargoyle).
I never noticed that! so cool!
Oh wow that's really interesting
that's... actually really neat. It really speaks to how good a game is when you're still discovering cool stuff 3 years after it came out!
Actually it’s meant to symbolize the planets, dathkomir is so messed up and dark that nothing can truly save it, but kashyyk still could be,
@@SupaSillyThyme I don't think Dathomir was really a place that is beyond saving. Just more that it's a place to get lost and fall to the Dark side. Just like how Malicos fell to the Dark side. He was stranded for so long and eventually was drawn to the power within the Zeffo temple.
That frog on the first planet. I’ve never been so pissed on one boss. So I’m glad we had the same reaction
correction we all had the same reaction
Fun fact: You know that door Prauf walks through before the initial Venator flashback? Well, if you press the button to open it 66 times without turning around, you can hear Darth Sidious ordering the execution of Order 66.
who had that kind of patience?
or did the devs reveal this secret easter egg?
@@nephicus339 I have that patience.
Also, Sam Witwer voices Sidious in the game.
@@zsu-23-4shilka2 Of fucking course it's Sam Witwer! That man just can't get enough of Star Wars
@@notlNSIGHT can anyone? As long as they stay true star wars will always be good, we do not speak of the Disney ones
@@myschnozhurts1522 I mean I'm glad he's still in Star Wars cause he's fantastic
One of my favorite parts of this game is that you can go to Dathomir right after Bogano with no objective and just explore. Even better, you can get the double bladed lightsaber super early. Of course, the planet is very difficult to get through at this point, but it’s so rewarding.
Yeah, I love Dathomir and went there first and grind through got the double bladed lightsaber that's where I figured out the game shows you where you can go with your current abilities.
I agree that the AT-ST and AT-AT are mechs. They have limbs and are piloted. That's my definition.
AT-ST is a featherless biped and therefore a man.
@@counterstriker500 I understood that reference xD
@@counterstriker500 - *Diogenes has entered the chat
28:12 Damn...now that's a hidden Incredibles reference
8:09 So it's safe to say that, like most first time players, it took him a while to defeat the first of these big frog things. Which is fair as it's placed early on in the game and the player isn't fully ready or equipped to deal with this type of enemy. Really does let you know what kind of game you're in for. And that the comparisons to Dark Souls are valid.
Funnily enough, I completely cheesed that stupid frog by abusing the AI limitations on arena space. Made it much easier, but not very honorable
@@skilletman9235 I did that with the rabid jotaz at the venator crash.
@@skilletman9235 I cheesed the albino spider on kashykk by accidentally jumping in a puddle seconds before it’s charge attack
Funny enough I did it first try to be honest if you learn it’s attack patterns and a lot of dodging you can beat that thing pretty easily
Another win you missed is that there's a (covoluted) way to avoid the three bounty hunters.
If you pull it off, you skip that entire level and just get back to the ship absolutely fine... story continues as if you never got captured which I think is some good attention to detail
Is it through console commands or is it through actual gameplay, cause I’d love to try it out if it’s the latter. I play on Xbox for context.
@@alexmartinez5859 No, you can do it all without console commands.
I don't remember how exactly but there's some way you can get around one of the domes of the bounty hunter before you even start the fight
@@owendiaram3870 Sweet. I also know that they had dialogue that basically stated there would be bounty hunters hunting Cal while he was out doing whatever he did in the galaxy. Adding in stuff like that is just great.
It's a bug not programmed in. Once you hit a particular event triggered it changes your mission.
it wasnt intended man
31:28 - Yes lol.
I remember cheering when Vader showed up. I've never been that excited to get annihilated before 😆
Travis Willingham did such a good job as Master Jaro Topal. It took me a while to recognize the voice, whereas at other times I clock his voice immediately
Thats Travis Willingham?! To me it sounded like Troy Baker through an evil filter
Let's apreciate how good this game looks. The hair moving in he wind, the fabric of the clothes, elements, environments... Amazing
It’s so weird watching someone go to the planets in the “right” order. I’ve played all the way through 3 times and go to Dathomir first for the double lightsaber every single time
You can pick it up on Kashyyk as well. Can't remember exactly where, I think just before the 9th sister.
I got it on Bogano. Fused our lightsaber and the Jedi that was studying the Zeffo.
I always go it on Bogano. I literally didn't even know you could get it elsewhere!
I did the exact same thing but i think it made bogano way to easy
I got mine on Dathomir and learned literally today you can get it elsewhere.
I love how greez salting his food is so funny that it overshadows cere vaguely mentioning darth vader so that even though he is mentioned you don’t see his appearance coming at all
31:21
Every time. Every damn time. Chills down my spine bro, god this game is so good.
The order 66 scene in this game was so incredibly powerful. And this was a game full of incredibly powerful moments
When Vader showed up It came out of nowhere but honestly I felt just as scared as any jedi probably would have been while facing him... just felt defeated already like we can't do anything to win and that was pretty awesome
Yeah Cals respond to Vader telling him to surrender hade weight behind it. Cal was scared shitless there he knew he hade no chans to win that fight. And i may be wrong here but apart from that shadow story told earlier i dont think Cal hade even heard of Vader or how powerful he trully was.
I was terrified when I first saw him, and it made the game feel so much more interesting. The link between the player and Cal was so much more immersive than most character and player links.
because you already know how he is defeated by episode 6, anything before that is a sure W by vader. and that's scary.
Cal instinctively using Trakata, a many thousands year old technique, was absolutely badass.
Jedi Masters probably didn't teach that at the temple, but with no formal training after Order 66 Cal must've just figured out something that works.
Likely how Trakata came to be in the first place.
@@Kr0noZ dude thank you for proving a mini theory of mine. This is in league with the Trilogies but my theory was that any Jedi/Sith that came after the Republic era or inexperienced Padawans wouldn't know about the different lightsaber style and would instinctively use their own type of style.
Also a forbidden one. Nobody told him it's bad so why not use it.
Jedi: this Is dishonorable
Sith: this Is for pussies
speakin of forms, which one does he use cus i cant tell
“Can you imagine humans hacking other humans?”
Allow me to introduce you to the Ghost in the Shell franchise.
Also: Cyberpunk, Shadowrun, Remember Me. Also, arguably, a Jedi Mind trick is hacking someone's brain, so sequel Cal could find out what it feels like.
@@SentiNel090 Also, let me introduce human hacking, or in other words: Social Engineering. Simple example: You casually say to your partner or parents during breakfast - "I'm kinda craving for fast food". Then after long work/school -day - "Should we order takeout?". Statistically you are far more likely to get positive answer if you prime the idea earlier in the day.
Jedi can mind trick the weak-minded. Cal can hack other people.
@@TealJosh Also, if you raise the lip of a step just a fraction of an inch; most people will trip.
This was one trick used by engineers who built castle fortifications in Europe. Along with slanted and uneven steps, too.
Mind tricks. The one Jedi use of the Force I've always been uneasy with.
When I watched my younger sibling doing parts of his play through, I came across him doing the fight against Trilla and saw he was having difficulty against her. When he finally beat her I heard Vader's breathing, I just look at him straight,and said "Well... you're fucked." He just shook his head because we just know how terrifying Vader actually is in Star Wars.
😆
7:47 Yeah, this always bothered me too… I mean less than a foot behind him sits an elevated platform that may be slightly dryer than the puddle.
To be fair, after being hunted for most of your life wet pants mean nothing. They will dry as I run from people trying to kill me!
@@TheDisneyLover58 Swamp ass does not make it any easier to run. Although what do I know? One of the greatest Jedi masters put up with literal swamp ass for nearly 20 years.
19:43 wait for Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, timeskips changes people
ngl the vader bit was great, just "oh well I can't fight...... RUN" kind of how most jedi felt dealing with vader XD
31:43
Spoilers for Jedi survivor below
I just realized Vader did the same move In jedi Survivor to kill Cere. He uses the force to shift her to the side.
Gotta retroactively add a win for Malikos, he actually does do the creepy ass laugh when you go back to talk to him.
Also, absolutely love your videos man, keep it up and hope you're doing well.
Dude your recap after the game ended is the reason you stand out. I feel like you can tell you really gaf about what you're doing not a lot of people can give off that feeling through a LITTERAL SCREEN AND SPEAKER, insane job bruh. Permanent sub.
Honestly my biggest surprise of this game was that Cal lived at the very end, when Vader showed up I totally expected him to destroy the holocron and then Vader off him right then and there.
Do you feel like Vader was really trying, though?
@@nephicus339 no, but that stab would have critically injured cal, its likely they used several stims in his sleep to keep him stable. Vader never really tried(maybe against luke or obi wan, but he wasn't Vader against obi wan the first time)
I don't often comment on YT vids but this one was different... I love your ability to evaluate the subject at hand but also derive a compelling lesson to make viewers feel extra emotion and self-worth. Thank you for making this video.
This game is a huge deal especially since this was allowed by EA. It might not make as much money as their microtransaction heavy always online multiplayer games, but it's one of the rare moments when something genuinely good was made by a AAA developer with minimal influence from the publisher. It's honestly one of the best video games of the past decade and I'd love to see a sequel so I can give Respawn more of my money.
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order 2..........coming soon.
It sold more copies than Call of Duty the year it came out. Which has not been done in years since Modern Warfare. Proving that a single player game, when done right, can blow everything out of the water.
17:09 another attention to detail I have to point out that deserves a point is that’s the song cal was listening to at the beginning of the game
Best depiction of Vader in the entire franchise, bar none. And yes, that includes Rogue 1.
This game was the first time I was genuinely scared from him.
Like actually yelling while I ran away, 🤣
@@kevinthepilgrim "OH SHIT, OH SHIT! FUCK, FUCK, FUCK! GO AWAAAAAAAY!!!!"
The best depiction of him is on the empire strikes back
I don't know Rogue One and Fallen Order are tied in my book.
He went from I don't like sand it's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere to this Puberty hit Ani like a truck
At 30:40 I'm pretty sure Cere just stabbed that guy in the balls. Poor man. Horrible way to go.
I love how more and more media is creating the fear in the viewers that Vader commands in his universe. Also that entrance gives me chills every time I see it
13:01
Brain: 'hears it as: caught you'
Eyes: 'Sees text that says "F*ck you"'
Brain: 'hears it as F*ck you'
*GOD DANGIT IT'S BRAINSTORM V GREEN NEEDLE ALL OVER AGAIN!*
I still love how in one of the most serious moments if the game, Greez is just making me bust a gut with his salt intake
FACTS I was sitting there like "Greez stop that's too much sodium"
31:44 love how Vader just casually waves his hand and fling Cere to the side. 32:02 also love how he only needed one hand to stop the GINORMOUS pillar. This game just shows how fricking powerful Darth Vader is.
Size matters not to the Force, or something.
@@Kr0noZ also without looking I think. Must always be sensing things with the force.
31:10 I will never not stop getting goosebumps and excitement for this part, Vader is such a beast.
23:09 no way you called it a year before it happened lmao
5:10
She’s stalling, not shooting to kill. She knows Trilla will have to prioritize not getting shot, hence she takes her time deflecting and evading each one while making sure not to arrogantly charge forward too fast to deflect the next one. The faster she approached the blaster bolts, the faster they approach her… relatively.
She’s her pupil, so she probably knows Trilla won’t actually let herself get shot.
Why didn't Trilla deflect the blaster bolts back at Cere, or at Cal's back, though?
@@nephicus339 idk tbh. Perhaps she’s conflicted…
30:46, he can see things before they happen, it’s a Jedi ability.
Loved the optimism. Wish we had more in day to day live. Missing it more the older I get. That's why I love you videos. The positivity. Optimism. Thanks bro
What I really enjoy about Cal being mo capped is that it allows for us to possibly see him again in one of the TV shows on Disney+
WAIWOOOOOOOOOW
Some nice headcanon I have:
So in canon, Red lightsaber crystals aren't natural and are created by committing acts of evil to "bleed" a Jedi's crystal. Chances are if Malicos was stranded on Dathomir, they're still the same lightsaber crystals he had as a Jedi - just bled from all of his misdeeds.
I can see that.
Same with any colour lightsabers though even green,blue or yellow but they ruined yellow when Rey got it
@@liamfairhall1062 How did Rey ruin yellow lightsabers?
@@Matter-Dark because she doesn’t fit the requirements of a guardian jedi
@@liamfairhall1062 Then again, after that movie she's literally the last one. Kinda like a guardian to the legacy.
(Although she'd have to be a much more well-designed and compelling character for that to actually work, so....)
the thing i loved the most about this game is the order66 easteregg at the beginning, when you get to that door, which prauf disappeared into, that wont open with the button, if you press that button 66 times you can hear palpatine say "Execute Order 66". Its simply amazign when i saw that it was possible
Everytime I hear obi-wans message I get chills cause we all know right now he’s out there living alone as well by force to protect Luke
29:15 The knighting ceremony of a Jedi. Should be calling him Sir Cal now.
Fucking awesome vid. The hype for FO2 is building.
The whole Vader part just brought me back to when I played through it. So. Fucking. Awesome.
Also I love this cast especially Merrin.
My question how powerful would the child of Merrin and Cal be? Ooft.
For a sequel i hope they add a bloody palace and proper decapitation/dismemberments.
As interesting as it would be if they did, I really doubt both Respawn and EA would change the sequal to be R rated when the first game was only pg-13 (I think? Not sure but I’m guessing that’s what it was)
@@wyatthyland9154 yeah. But its not like there needs to be blood gushing cause super hot things cautarise wounds. So have it be textured like charcoal...
But yeah i suppose light up bats will have to do
@@wyatthyland9154 well Force Unleashed 1&2 had dismemberments and decapitations and it was T
@@wyatthyland9154 Some games have an optional setting for gore and dismemberment. Maybe they could shoot for that?
I don't know enough about game development to know how feasible that would even be, though.
Vader's scene is just simply so freaking amazing
Vader's sheer strength both physical and in the force
He doesn't even have to move and he is tearing everything apart
And it's simply so much more scary that he could've been even way more powerful than that if he hadn't lost so much well... body in mustafar
I'm so happy I found your channel. I absolutely love how you take the game sins formula and spin it to the positive as well as how genuine your commentary is. I'm going to go binge some more of your videos. Thank you.
23:09 Jedi: Survivor - Holy crap did you call that
Once again, since the Jedi have the Jedi Mind Trick, doesn't that technically count as "hacking humans"?
I definitely thought about that, and Cal's "I would feel weird about hacking humans" line seemed to explain why there weren't any Jedi mind tricks in any cutscenes.
1) The Fallen Order theme - especially the version at the title screen, with that really evocative minor second, it life itself. 2) The flourish when Cal reholsters his saber sometimes - with the spin before he hooks it to his belt - love that. 3) Is that really the first time you’ve heard “Imp” as a slur? That goes back at least to the Stackpole Rogue Squadron novels and probably before.
sometimes he'll even blow on the end of it like a gun before reholstering
29:26 It's so cool Cal became a Jedi with a Sith's blade... more gray jedi foreshadowing?
31:16 there's a force noise, and I believe that was Vader holding Trilla still
My favorite part about this game was the combat... it was so satisfying and you really felt like a jedi wielding a lightsaber.
I love how this game shows how destiny plays into the world of Star Wars. everything that happens on Bracca helps Cal survive, and ultimately brings him to saving the lives of multiple innocents and taking down a good chunk of evil in the galaxy, even if it isn't a massive shift in the galaxy like with our trilogies.
16:15, Gordy Haab sounded so familiar. Then I realised that Gordy Haab also composed the music for Ryan vs Dorkman 2, a famous Star Wars fan-film. That's awesome. He went from composing a fan film to an official Star Wars project. Good on him. Also worth noting that Ryan Wieber went on to work for LucasArts as a VFX Artist.
Vader is honest to god terrifying and I love that when he shows up you can see the terror in Trilla’s eyes also still moving while being crushed that’s some Darth Malgus bs
I love how differently Vader treats fighting against Kal or Cere. With Kal it's just brute force and almost zero effort, with Cere there's some technique and precision going on with his moves, and he swings the lightsaber much faster
"and even if you're not, who knows this game could make you one" I played this game after watching most of the Disney Star Wars Movies but this particular game was so absolutely amazing that this is what made me want to watch the original films, and the animated shows and read the comics, so 100% can confirm
I'd like to add Merrin being a potential love interest without making it super zappy and forced. She is there, you feel the tension between the character without it being stated. You can see them as friends or that there are a glint of love in their eyes (the scene after Cal wakes up really shows this). Hopefully if it gets explored in the Sequel it will be done well and not laced with cliche and ridiculous tropes.
Devs: your wish is my command
The shot at LOU2 made me subscribe. These are my people.
And "IMP...neat...slur..."
As someone who has loved the HU for years I'm so glad to finally see them getting recognition I literally jumped out my seat when i heard it in game
28:22 I believe cal used a lost lightsaber form. One where the user turns on and off their lightsaber to gain advantages
32:08 Same hilarious moment from part 2.
I really loved you're take about bringing positive people into your life. I have struggled with that a lot and doing just that has been a huge help for me. That needs to be talked about more
Hey you left out a win, Cordova's speech, "failure is not the end, it is a necessary part of the path."
the beginning song is called, “sugann essena” the hu and jedi survivor both have the full versions of it
One of my favorite games of all time! I'm biased though because I love Cameron Monaghan
22:00 That was my exact reaction, we all knew what was about to happen and it was still so sad to see.
At 29:03 I genuinely thought she said “By he right of the calzone-“ for a while
27:18 that's the jedi code for ya,that's why I prefer the code of the grey jedi
You know, it's kinda funny. Cal moves kinda like Andrew Garfield's spider-man. Wonder if they'd ever put Cal to live action....
BRO I JUST NOTICED THIS Cal used a lightsaber technique that BOTH the Sith and Jedi rejected at 28:20 he deactivated then re-activated his lightsaber to gain an edge!