Asking Elementor’s CPO sharp questions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2023
- In this interview I am asking the CPO (Chief Product Officer) of Elementor (Amitai Gat) some questions about their progress and challenges as a company.
I really want to thank Elementor and Amitai for giving me this opportunity and I really look forward to their public roadmap!
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Rino, It's great interview with Amitai Gat. We are a team behind The Plus Addons for Elementor and we have seen how they corrected things in past few months. They have improved code base quite nicely for future growth and all those by staying in close touch with addons team like us on slack. We got live support and guidance for all the major releases so not even a single user got any trouble in their process of core improvement. We are quite hopeful for upcoming months as Amitai said, They are quite ready for some quick releases as core improvement seems to be done. Wish lots of success for Elementor in future as they have most passionate team with great empathy for their every users.
I love what Amitai said, "every professional started as a beginner".... Great interview Rino, so nice to see a human face attached to such a mega product. I've been using Elementor for a solid 5+ years and am always excited to see the new features.
Thank you for this! The critical questions are key to progress. Thank you for the community that you speak for us :)
Great interview, thanks for the efforts, Rino. Elementor is ahead of the game by far in the WP page builder space and will continue doing so IMO. Looking forward to seeing the Elementor Roadmap soon.
Great interview, we need more of those coming!
Nice video!! Thanks for asking the questions we've always wanted
Wow @elementor I'm sincerely impressed. The company seems a new one! Congrats!!🎉
Great work, Rino. I am really impressed by your leadership in the field.
Wow, such an interesting and informative video. I really liked it! Well done to both of you!😊
This might not be the place but... Elementor, please implement a better font selection interface. Selecting or browsing for fonts is a pain in the ass! :)
Wow that was a super interesting interview. Well done!
Thank you for the video. I love Elementor! Looking forward for your guide on containers too 😉😉
Really nice questions ! thanks for sharing
Hi and thank you both very much for this amazing interview. I think it is very important not to lose track regarding the own user base! Thank you for standing up personally and give us insights in your own processes and challenges. I for myself also thought elementor was stuck in a way that slowed development pace but was noticing a heck of new experiments that I wasnt even able to test all..
Maybe the comment section of this video is also a great place to leave constructive feedback.
As an active user of elementor I sometimes see some of the issues. For example I was noticing that the entrance / loading animation does not work perfectly in conjunction with SG Optimizer. Maybe Rino, you as a siteground user are aware of this issue. It triggers the animation twice.
Regarding the new features such as the loop builder I will test it.
As inspiration for a new video about all the experiments maybe with a more in depth insight.
Thank you all very much for the great work. Greetings to all the great people at Elementor!
Thanks Rino, this was a great discussion on Elementor.
A really great interview and you covered some interesting areas.
Great video! As a pro user of Webflow that has to use Elementor Pro at work, this video was insightful.
Hey Rino
I enjoyed your interview with CEO from Elementor. The roadmap question in my opinion was very important well done 😊 Keep up the great videos and happy new year 🙂and more success for 2023 ! Keep your videos coming
An Advanced Custom Fields would be awesome! I've been trying to implement a form in my page where users can select options and it gives them a price for the options they've selected and I haven't really found a great option that works AND looks good.
I'm new to Elementor. Ive been struggling with X then Pro themes (Themeco) for 8 years...... they keep changing it too much and its often site killing buggy. I'm making a 3rd site no with Elementor - wow, its brought my joy back to making website. It very useable, yes, it seems slow bla bla ut its easy, and your Vids and the others make it so easy as we can watch how to do it and build great sites. Its been easy to set the site up right and getit looking all aligned (etc)... fantastic. Many people left x/Pro to elementor - many great professional devs came over here for these same reasons. FYI Rino @LivingWithPixels your vids are awesome - thank you.
I encourage you to consider using Elementor's Hello theme. It's just a blank shell. It forces you to create all aspects of the site, which really pushes for a better overall approach to everything from menu building to loop building to character spacing to... everything! The end result is a better grasp of every nook and cranny of your site, and of site building in general. It's the only theme I use now.
Thanks, Rino, and for Amitai being willing to be "put on the spot" so to speak. As an alumni of your XD course and a current Elementor Pro user, I am finding that I spend too much time debugging after updates on our e-commerce site. I am considering a complete rebuild of the site using the container approach. Do you believe that the container feature is robust and stable enough to justify the investment in time required to make the switch? Sections and columns can be tedious at best and responsive development is currently very time consuming for nested templates in particular. Your advice, as always is greatly appreciated !!
I think it's a good place to say ... "We want classes feature in Elementor!" ❤
Great interview! You asked some really good questions.
TH-cam Gold. Thanks, guys.
I thought I'm hearing something scary piano in my area... turns out it came from this video :D
Thanks for a great interview, great to see a real heavyweight in elementor talking with you. I agree that is is a difficult approach to cover new users and professionals alike, I believe that if this is Elementor's strategy, they need to split the free version from the pro version.
I would love to know the mindset behind moving to Flexbox vs Grid, and would hope to see this as an option in the future.
Thanks again for another really useful video
Splitting up the free version and the pro version is also something I was thinking. So more like an amateur version and a REAL professional version, instead of a pro version that is actually just the limited version of the free. Thanks btw!
thank you for such another great in-depth interview
Thanks for the interview, it was interesting to watch common questions asked :)
Great video Reno.
My 2 main requests and prayers are for reliability (no sudden critical error pages from update conflicts) and increasing dynamic on scrolls style and flavors
Sound great
"It's a bit nuanced...it's a product for beginners to become professionals." I think it's a difficult but valiant approach. I think it can be done if their heart is behind it. He recognizes it's a much harder road to take, but they do not shrink from the challenge-they embrace it! That's very encouraging. I love the mindset, which keeps me on board. It seems to show that they truly care about people (begnners, professionals, intermediates). He seemed very genuine and authentic. He seems happy with what he is doing. Another positive note.
So I would actually agree (perhaps better said, "believe") that it's a wonderful approach. It can be achieved. And if they acheive it, they will be that much better. "Elementor: a page builder for beginners to become professionals."
ahhh great interview Reno.
Thanks for featuring my comment 👍
I've used Elementor, Beaver Builder, WP Bakery and Gutenberg. There's no contest, Elementor is head and shoulders better than the others. I still support sites I created with Beaver Builder and it feels like a step backward.
I wish Elementor would buy Gravity Forms or Form Assembly. They would rule the market!
Hi Rino! Could you create a tutorial, how you exactly made your website? Would be really awesome to learn from that.
Which website are you talking about? My personal website or LivingWithPixels.com ?
Good interview. I would like to hear his response to the question of web page optimization and load time. There's been some criticism that Elementor Pro is slower than the blocks coming out.
Great interview! I love Elementor and Crocoblock! Gutenberg is trash IMO.
Hallo Rino! It’s funny because it seems to me that you are facing the same thing, namely to choose between making videos for an audience that doesn’t know much about webdesign (e.g. your basic tutorials and info on hosting etc.) and an audience that already knows how to make websites and is more interested in the refinement of Elementor’s tools. Actually I’d argue you’re also focusing on both, in a way that you want to make videos for beginners that through your channel become more professional and then still find relevant content on your channel👏🏼. And on top of that you’re targeting both the design aspect and the business aspect, which is of course also a relevant distinction for Elementor (e.g. their blogposts that are more business related). Grappig!
Elementor lacks animations.. the competition aka webflow is light years ahead in terms of animations.
That’s true. Hasn’t been changed for years. If they would at least offer some hooks to easily add animations by yourself, that would already be sooooo much better.
At 17:00 I think they should have made the distinction of core being the open-source base and pro being a product that always might be competing with other add-ons.
i wish they give us the option to remove/rename the "elementor-...." class in the code, as it makes the code look extremly messy
That would be impossible as that would probably break like every Elementor addon. They already changed it recently I think, to ‘ele-‘
Moving to Elemntors UI/UX is just too damn painful after using Thrive Archected for years. I mean I've been working with containers in Thrive Architect since DAY ONE! And Elementor is just now getting them.
I've used Thrive and like the containers, but am turned off in general by other core features. I prefer Elementor, which now has containers, as well as a dialog box to navigate the sections and internal elements.
@@mgoodkin I've never designed a page so long I felt the need for the section navigator... I can visually scroll there just as fast.
Thrive uses breadcrumbs at the top of the builder to let you navigate every nested section specifically which I love.
The one thing I don't have in Thrive that I love in Elementor is the ability to right-click and copy and paste styles! *drool*
But still, Elementor UI when it comes to rounding corners or entering sizes is WAY SLOWER than Thirves ability to quickly slide left to right to change pixels or percentage
Can you timestamp the video with questions?
This is Elementor for you: I just updated (today) from 3.9 to 3.10.1 and now my website pages are trashed!
It is a common theme within the Elementor community that users are terrified of new feature updates.
The faster I can get my customers sites away from elementor and stop paying for their supposed "Pro" software, the better.
I suggest creating some designs and code them so when updates occur some of your features will not be effected. I know at my company there are parts where our designs can’t be made by elementor but we like to use the addons, templates etc. which is great.
What do you mean with that your pages are trashed? Yes, I also had some problems with every major Elementor update, but this was mostly because of deprecations or incompatibilities with plugins. It’s also bad practice to use Addons that are not updated often which can cause problems. Maybe that’s the problem you’re having?
So my website was running perfectly ok. All plugins were up to date. Wordpress was up to date. I noticed elementor update 3.10.1, hit the update button, now the website loads absent of any styling. I have cleared and refreshed all caches and regenerated all css. But you're probably right, it'll be down to something else not elementor 😑
As a follow up; 3.10.2 was just released, I updated it today and the site is now fixed and working again, so it was 100% the Elementor update that broke the site.
@@jason-m Glad everything is working again! You may already do this (so forgive me if this is an ignorant suggestion), but perhaps use a staging site to "test" the plugin updates before updating live. Not that it's not frustrating when an update thrashes my staging site for sure! 😏
Haha rinos nods while he explains 😂😂
the search bar addons, it way to big! wish you can it a lot smaller, looking at it on mobile horrible
you think one day Elementor is going to release a membership feature built in?
Did you see the crazy new prices of elementor?
What new prices?
@@rinodeboer in the Elementor roadmap presentation.
Ohh, no these were for Elementor hosting. Not the plugin.
@@rinodeboer I know, the imcreased a lot, no sense roadmap
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After the release of the alpha version of the nested elements feature, it seems to me that Elementor does not take stability seriously. As a professional, this is a major concern for me and it makes me unable to continue using Elementor. Most of the features are not stable enough for production use and the risk is too high for me to continue using the tool. It's a shame, as I have been a long-time user of Elementor.
What do you mean??? If you say that they don’t take stability seriously, they would have already released this feature as stable without as an experiment. They are actually being careful to not break sites.
@@toineenzo It is unclear why a feature that is not stable enough for production would be made available for use on live websites. The fact that the container has been in alpha for nearly a year raises further concerns about its readiness for use in a live environment.
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Elementor can't make websites lighter, can they?
The real problem has always been that Elementor doesn't work with the correct methodology for web design. If Elementor worked like, for example, Bricks, which actually follows good web development practices, these problems wouldn't have happened. Rino, look mate, I know you are a designer first, BUT, if people want to develop professional websites, they NEED to learn HTML and CSS; it is easy to learn, honestly, you can learn it in 1 month, and then use a tool that actually works with these things in mind. I invite you to take this in consideration.
Totally agree.
I do agree with many of your points, although I am not 100% sure if the future is going to be like this. I think no-code-development is going to be more popular and advanced. That being said: I actually have been testing out Bricks and I see the benefit of using a tool like that. Especially the classes feature, which I think is the biggest benefit for Bricks, don't you agree? For now, I my whole workflow is based around Elementor and I am actually working on a few videos that will use css classes to make the editing experience in Elementor a lot nicer. For now it doesn't make a lot of sense to switch because Bricks misses a lot of features which are essential for the designs that I want to build. If you have any more interesting points then please share them by replying here.
@@rinodeboer What do you mean with "Bricks misses a lot of features which are essential for the designs" Bricks has an edge over Elementor in converting designs from Figma to a real website as it allows for more flexibility and customization without limitations.
@@rinodeboer Absolutely no code or low code tools are the present and future. Even for people like me that does know html and css (and js), it makes my work easier and faster. But yes, as you say, one of the biggest plus for a tool like bricks is the class system, which is the way websites are actually developed, and this allows you to make more maintainable, responsive and scalable websites. I am curious, what are the missing features that you consider Elementor has and Bricks doesn't? Maybe there are things that can be done with bricks but is not something that you can see at first glance?
I agree, I believe incorporating custom code on top a web builder of your choice for those harder designs/ interactivity.
My critic on the Elementor live shows is dont use IT developers to explain how new features work. Developers need to stick to what they do best and educators are far better at putting across a new feature. You Tubers that make tutorials about Elementor for example are far better at it than live broadcasts by Elementor themselves. IE stick to what you do best Elementor and buy into the tutorial experts. I dont think you can try to be all things to all people in the explanation field. Rino, and others like you do a much better job of that than Elementor. That said as a novice website builder, Elementor is a five star product.
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Elementor support is still terrible. They always say: its not the fault of Elementor. Its the fault of the other plugin. We cant help you...
elementor is not open-source.
sorry... I stopped watching at 1:30, your title says "Asking Elementor Sharp Questions about their progress".. and watching the first few seconds I thought you were going to ask him for his autograph! No need to watch any longer.
Don’t judge a book by its cover. It’s not very polite and professional to get in very aggressively. Its better to build it up otherwise you don’t achieve a lot. So how about you give it another chance with a little bit mote patience.
@@rinodeboer I did, 1:30 min in was enough for me.
I like the new outro music
If you are really taking the feedback from LivingWithPixeles COMMUNITY "users", we want to see Mega Menu Soon on Elementor allow us to build responsive Menu without using other 3ed party plugins, many of us try lot of methods, but in the end, we don't get the best, especially when it comes to speed, we are looking for it.
Try Max Mega Menu in the meantime. It works great ☺️