How to start a Web Design Business without Money
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- How to start a web design business when you have no money. Every business ofcourse does cost some money, but with the tricks I present in this video you don't have to invest any money to make money. I hope you like it!
All the links I mention in this video:
Figma: livingwithpixels.com/figma
Fiverr: www.fiverr.com/
Upwork: www.upwork.com/
Paypal: www.paypal.com/
Google Docs invoice template: www.invoicesimple.com/invoice...
InvoiceNinja: invoiceninja.com/
Zoho invoicing: www.zoho.com/invoice/pricing/
SquareUp invoicing: squareup.com/us/en/invoices
Trello: trello.com/
Asana: asana.com/
Notion: www.notion.so/
Hostinger hosting: livingwithpixels.com/hostinger
Siteground hosting: livingwithpixels.com/siteground
Elementor Pro: livingwithpixels.com/elementor
1Password: 1password.com/
iThemes Security: (I don't promote iThemes anymore)
Apple Macbook Air: www.apple.com/macbook-air/
→ Software I recommend
Hostinger for affordable webhosting: livingwithpixels.com/hostinger
Siteground for premium webhosting: livingwithpixels.com/siteground
Elementor for no-code web-development: livingwithpixels.com/elementor
Figma for Web Design: livingwithpixels.com/figma
All recommended software & discounts: livingwithpixels.com/software/
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How to start a web design business when you have no money. Every business ofcourse does cost some money, but with the tricks I present in this video you don't have to invest any money to make money. I hope you like it!
Hi Rino can you guide me with the TH-cam link to learn the project in figma which you explained in today's video pls
This make it so easy, thanks for that, trying to get out of the rat race, this been the beast step by step so far.
15:56 what do you update then?
@JBK The Wordpress plugins
@@rinodeboer ok. Am a noob in all this. Never worked with WP yet. Just started on JavaScript. So yeh... interesting videos you make 😅
I want to thank you- your tutorials and videos helped me build my site from scratch. I had never used Elementor, and now I have a running website. I am constantly making a few changes and hope to get it to a place where it looks like a pro built it. :)
Thank you so much for sharing. I am about to graduate in the spring and just feel like I am overwhelmed about what to do next. This helped tremendously!
Thank you. I love your presentations and your passion and work ethic. Of course most people understand the high level of competition that there is for web and design services, its not that easy and it gets harder all the time. Your formula is correct when it is going well but its important to understand that managing your business is a different set of skills and the best designer in the world may not ne a great manager or business person. I feel that the important steps should be taken slowly and steadily, attention to detail and be the best at each step you can be.
Hi bro, really interesting video! Im from Uruguay and I'm starting this. The idea of the Google Sheets table with all the steps is really useful, i thinked the same and for me it was super productive!
Once again, great video for the new people that want to start their own Design Business / Website Business etc. I only have to mention 2 important things.
1) You can also buy a reseller hosting with WHMCS where you'll be able to have separate cPanel Accounts for each customers, more secure and giving also the freedom to the client to manage their own Account, Emails, etc. or to suspend them in for some reason they didn't paid you. You have your own Hosting Business also.
2) Charging your clients for plugins like Builders, etc. it's completely wrong in my opinion, because you we got paid to build their website and it's our responsibility to have our own tools, like a car mechanic, a dentist etc. If they need more security or some other features, then it's ok to tell them they have to pay for them.
Once again, thank you for sharing with us such a good content every time! Cheers from Greece
You always provide unique and real guidance.Thanks for that keep enjoing your passion.
Hi rino I'm wondering if you could make a video of the whole process from proposing the client to discussion and delivering. I'd really appreciate that
That's incredibly important
I do have segmented videos on my page on how to outreach to find clients and then how to do the web design yourself or to outsource it to guys on Fiverr or Upwork
Let me know if they help
@ZeronixG facts, I just replied to the other guy... You can check if you want
@@william_SMMA I'm interested.
@@almoustapha you can check my channel for them
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That was an amazing video, thank you. Super helpful!
Thank you for this video. I started out in upwork bc I have some exp w WordPress and coding. The competition is very high. For one job, even a small one, there are many people making an offer.
Really really great content I've ever seen on TH-cam so far!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video as always! Still hoping for a more detailed Figma video from you! TIA!
Interesting video again Rino. Thanks ;-)
Great video. The jail part had me 😂😂😂
Hi Rino, Thanks for all the information. I'm a little bit confused because in one of your videos from 2 years ago "How to handle hosting for your client" you strongly suggested not handling hosting for your client but in this video, you suggested doing it!
I would also be interested. In my opinion, it makes more sense to purchase individual hostings and send the invoice directly to the customer.
my favorite channel :D
Everything is cool, But Sharing some insights regarding how to get Clients through Social Media would be really helpful!
Hey Rino..
Thanks for the video… and bought the Hostinger package using your link 👍👍👍
Awesome thank you!
Great video!
There are loads of free options for password management tho such as KeePass etc.
very informative and interesting .. appriciated man
Amazing ! Thank you for sharing
This is great! Thanks!
Great vid, what about accountants, accounting (bookkeeping software) etc. Would be great to a have a video on that.
Great video!
Thank you for your great recommendations, actually I am working in a client project with asana and for my own development with notion, it’s helps a lot. Actually I want to take a course of Figma, to learn the wireframes. Greetings from southern Germany.
Greetings 💪
Thank you so much. You have a new sub ☺️
this video is gold
thank you man God bless you
I would also recommend ClickUp as a free project management tool, you can also create a CRM out of it among other features. Free plan but the paid plan is very cheap.
Hi Rino - you mention buying the package for multiple websites... how do you manage it when a client wants to go with another designer or agency and they want to move their website from your hosting? How do you create a separate account for them?
Hey Rino, i have 2 questions. How do you deal with php updates? Is it just updating or do have to change a lot to the website? And wich hosting do you use for your clients is it siteground, and if so do you also buy the email-addresses and domains there or how does it go?
HiRino frist Iwant to thank you for your videos . Can I know what software do you use to add the transitions and effects on your videos and what mic you are using ?
Thanks alot
That was amazing
Good video Rhino!
Thanks!
Can you share your full check up list, what we can see at 07:46?
hostinger has very good discount
Great video🎉
Thank you 😁
Can you do a video covering everything from pitching to clients and how to handle site handoff (I plan to use Elementor personal dev and hosting plan)
bricks is going to kick as of elementor anyday now :) not an wordpress user myself for now
Its currently blackfriday week be sure to check retailers instead of Apple themselves if you plan on buying a macbook. Saved me 300 euros.
Hey Rino,
Great video again as always! Quick question: how do you handle work that comes from updating plugins/wordpress? For example, if updating Elementor Pro breaks something on the website: do you fix this and is the cost covered within maintenance packet or is this considered extra work where you give a calculation and let the customer decide if they want it fixed?
For website maintenance, I usually charge per hour, you can't keep on fixing it for your entire life for free.
I agree with Achraf here. It’s the same with a car. You pay for yearly maintenance, but if something breaks you pay extra for parts & labor.
Thanks for your input. I agree as well but still am wrapping my head around it.
So if ‘your’ work is the reason why it breaks, do you fix it and charge them or send a quote and leave it up to the client to decide whether or not to fix it?
In most cases it's not "your work", because you didn't develop the plugins that caused these issues. In most cases its compatibility issues with other plugins. Not your fault. And of course you should always leave it up to the client if they want to have something fixed.
I offer a maintenance package to my clients which includes plugin updates etc along with 2.5 hours/month of my time to work if it's needed, and that 2.5 hours does not carry over to the next month. I have my clients pay for 6 months at a time for the maintenance package, and if they pay for a full year I give a slight discount. Also, before I update Elementor pro plugin, I always do a quick site backup via my web hosting provider.
Very interesting video! I like your method, it's a good idea letting your clients pay you for managing their hosting and their Elementor version. But what you do if, at a certain time, they decide not to work with you anymore?
My clients pay me for their hosting, domain and elementor pro, I specify them the disadvantages of their hosting, domain and elementor expiring, I also link it to my web maintenance service, I also explain them the disadvantages of not having a web maintenance. I always charge it annually, the client will always stay with you because the disadvantages are worse and in the long run it will cost them more than paying for your service
I actually lead with a monthly subscription. I will undersell with the initial startup cost/deposit and offer a $50 per month fee. Then I maintain and upkeep the website, which isn’t a lot of work.
I live in South Africa btw where $50 is quite a lot 👌
Awesome! Nice to hear a different business model like that.
Is elementor a must when using hostinger or WordPress templates is enough. I am thinking of selling WordPress templates to clients and just editing them with their content not the design part, any advice.
Even though I like Elementor a lot for its customization, for simple websites you can easily use the Wordpress Gutenberg templates. There are even AI builders right now like ZipWP.
Everything is so pleasant and nice except there is one small problem. The problem is that there is no client 😀
Hi Rino can you guide us with the TH-cam link to learn the project in figma which you explained in today's video pls
Best way is sell yourself as an agency not a single person if your new. People trust brands more than a random person. Brand yourself it’s free
When you engage with a client they usually have a set price when coming in. It’s your job to raise the value. Could be if your making them an extra $15k or whatever and explaining that you were service will drive more users and make it easier for users to navigate book you, and by the clients products, etc. Also, another business tip don’t give us a price until you’ve asked him very good questions you know how much revenue you’re going to make from them with your service how much are they going to make a month they’re making good amount of revenue charge a lot charge three or US$4000.😊 when you’re cheap and you’re cheap out on your self clients notice that then if they come back, they will always expect that low. She pay Ivin $1000 is cheap not worth anyone’s time to do a project that small.
I would love to know more about Design and then how to sell them. I love good design, but can't figure out how you would sell them.
Hey Rino,
Great video! Practical question: let's say your client already has a website running on another platform, let's say Wix. How do you start working on the website in WordPress and elementor, while keeping the existing website online until migration. And how do you migrate then from Wix (old) to the wordpress (new) environment? Any help or articles on this are much appreciated.
Easiest way is to create a subdomain and install Wordpress on it. You can use some migration plugins to migrate websites (only Wordpress websites) from one website to another. If the client got wix you should see, if you can buy a Wordpress hosting on his provider and cancel the wix one. After building the website on the subdomain you can change the link from the subdomain to the real domain but this is something what happens with your provider.
Hope this helps a litte bit :)
can you please help me with one tap google signin, how do i add this google prompt login to the website, their is no such plugin available for this
Hi Rino, I want to create a website for my first client. So I don't have any plugin subscriptions yet, like Elementor Pro, Crocoblock, iThemes Security, etc. And I'm not sure whether I'll continue in this business. The problem is that you normally can spread these costs across all clients. But when you have to buy all these subscriptions for one single website, the costs will run quite high. Do you think it is reasonable to have all these costs reimbursed by the first client? Or what would you recommend?
Bro you can easily build a website for free, if you're able to use Webflow you can ask your client to pay the hosting package and use their Webflow account
I'm looking for relable server offering speed for low price. I have sheared package on IONOS and is nothing but trouble. Very slow.
Do I have to learn figma to design websites or I can just go directly to building them with Wordpress?
First !
Which invoicing tool do you use yourself at the moment?
Thank you for useful video, can you make a video how you make monthly updates on clients website, because everytime when I do it, I broke eveeything.
Hi! I'm a florist who is also interested in webbdesign. I've been thinking of doing Webdesign for florists since most of them don't have a website or a webshop i think it's a nice niche that i already understand how it works. But do you also write all the text and provide pictures or is that the clients work?
Yeah the client provides the media and text
Unless you're running ads or posting on their behalf, that's when you can create the text yourself
A florist web design agency is a good idea though, just make sure you'll be able to charge $1k to $2.5k for the projects, as some industries aren't profitable enough to justify such a high investment
Some might want to pay you just $500 for the whole project and it's up to you to determine if that's enough
I remember Rino has a video about the first thing before building website is actually speaking to client, discovery process and define things but I can't find it anymore.. anyone can share me which video it is?
I started my small company.I'm designer and developer so I developed my own website and lunched few days ago.Cost only $12
Is Hostinger alone not securing the site? Instead of installing iThemes plugin? expensive for a beginner.. :( any option?
Question is how to hunt direct clients? I mean without platforms like Fiverr and Upwork
Good
Do you have enything on cookies, privacy policy RODO for EU business?
I use custom code but if the budget of client doesn’t allow it to code everything I build it in Webflow.
Hey Rino. Side bar question. Have you looked at Bricks builder? Do you think that it will eventually be a better option than Elementor?
And How about Oxygen builder. Also people are saying Elementor won't survive in following years. So we should go back to the official Gutenberg/block editor
I am starting to look 👀
@@rinodeboer Sweet! Hopefully you will put out a Bricks course in the near future. I think it's time to look at Elementor alternatives.
@@rukaiya8706 you know more about why Elementor will eventually fall?
@@designalenz4618 yeah afaik, Gutenberg is the official builder for wordpress, so when it will be officially promoted by wordpress itself, other builders like elementor, divi won't have much demand
Thank you. When you say that you'll charge them a few extra dollars a month to update their site, do you mean just to update the plugins and software, etc.? How do you charge for a client who wants to update content, make changes to design, adding pages, etc..?
Updating content or changing the design isn’t part of my maintenance package. This is considered extra work and I make a separate calculation on how much work this is. Then I discuss it and only start when they agree on the price. So yes, the few dollars is just for updating the plugins.
@@rinodeboer what about how do you get clients? Can you maybe do a video on that? Thank you!
A video on elementor competitors?
will you create more classes on Skillshare?
What about using security plugins with premium hosting providers that have their own security features? should the plugins be also used on top of it or would it cause conflicts?
Good question. I think when your hosting already comes with it’s own security plugin then I would use that. But I do have a few sites where Siteground security and iThemes both run on. Just to make sure. So it does work.
@@rinodeboer Thanks for the reply!
i am good at web developing but bad at web designing so it is too much hasle cause i only design it for like hrs and days and then i delete it cause later either i don't like it (very less chance) or client dont like it(very very high chance)
I have already started since 6 months....Freelancing on fiverr and other plaforms.....making websites with Elementor Free, Phlox theme and other elementor addons.........made some money......now I am thinking to scale by creating my own platform and using cold email to get clients
That's a great idea
You can also use that money to find clients on Upwork
They usually pay higher than Fiverr and you can control how many clients you get by the outreach proposals you send
You might need to invest $100 to $150 in connects on Upwork to apply for jobs
But you can then find a job easily that'll pay you $500 upwards
You might have to apply to 200 jobs though
Nice video. I remember a video you made telling that the best is to let the client pay themselves to the hosting and domain, directly to the provider. Did you change your mind about this?
Yea, I changed my mind on this. Because I ended up spending more time managing everything and asking for login details and login codes which annoyed me. Its easier when everything is in one place. I will need to update that video. Thanks for reminding me
@@rinodeboer yeah I agree. Thanks for the reply
@@rinodeboer i recall that video. Thats when i switched from reseller hosting, and i now like it this way. I will factor in the extra 30 mins that it takes to get the login creds. I usually recommend the client get the host and domain from same company to make it even simpler. And as you stated in previous video, it makes it easier for either side to part ways. I just want to design.
@@rinodeboer what are you doing right now? You share your hosting with them or a special provider
@@rinodeboer Which hosting reseller do you use? Hostinger or another one?
What did you think about the Hostinger Agency Plan? Is it worth?
Haven’t tested it yet, but definitely will do. Good idea!
You live in the EU. No recommendations for GDPR stuff like privacy policy, cookie banner and legal notice? I think this is also very important right from the beginning of a website business, because our clients need it
Good idea for a video. I will write it down.
@@rinodeboer 🙌🏻🙏🏻
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What security plugin would you recommend?
I work with iThemes Pro at the moment: livingwithpixels.com/ithemes because it’s lightweight compared to Wordfence
One helpful thing, is that you said designing websites isn't free- however, with webflow it's 100% free to start designing, then to post it, you can just shoot it over to your clients!
I do not fully agree with that. First of all because Webflow is not a design tool. It’s a webbuilding tool. Don’t confuse designing with building. And the same can be said for Elementor. Like I explained in this video: you can let your clients pay for your multiple license subscription or just let them buy a single license and hosting. Same story.
@@rinodeboer My bad, I meant developing! You can start developing a website right off of the bat with webflow (minimize upfront cost). This way you don't have to start exclusively doing design work right off the bat. No need to pay for licensing for your first site, only hosting when the client is ready.
In Poland if you earn half ammount of minimal wage, you have to pay taxes and create a company.
In Germany from the first Euro...
@@patrick1992 wat
Hello! I'm just starting out as a web designer. I'm currently doing passion projects to put in my portfolio. May I know, how much is a "few hundred dollars"? and how many pages does it include? Thank you
Probably $500
Most web design projects from capable designers cost from $1500 to $5k
$500 is a good starting point to get that experience whilst getting paid
As there are some things you'll never be able to learn from watching videos until you step into the battlefield and actually handle a paid client project
@@william_SMMA Hi, William! Thanks for replying! I'll try to offer my services at $500.
Isn't it better to use Affiliate link for hosting? I don't like to have client sites on my hosting when we have finished our cooperation, even though I maintain their site. With that I use Affiliate, and from each of their hosting payments, I earn 30%.
That could be interesting. But with maintenance packages you will make more profit after a year or so. And since most clients stay it's smarter to just sell maintenance packages in my opinion.
But wait if its just the pluging dont we have to pay for WordPress business?
Exactly. Wordpress free version is fine. Wordpress business is just the free version of Wordpress with hosting in it. Its expensive and limiting, so its much better to buy hosting from a company like Hostinger or Siteground and then just install Wordpress on it with their auto-installers
Ok, But, I want to start web design with elemantor pro pay with $0. Is it possible?
Yes! Watch the whole video, I explain how to let your clients pay for it 👌🏼
of course, no!
@@rinodeboer I mean could i use elemantor pro pay with $0 to learn or practice web design as a student? For a example, Canva pro provide free service for student ( canva is largest graphic design company in the world).
I don’t think Elementor has a plan like that. But I think they do have a money back guarantee for 30 days. So you could use that as testing.
@@rinodeboer ok,,Many Many thanks,,,, This video was informative and helpfully.
How about all the tax involved? I wanted to start selling my design and develop servicies but I can't without being a freelance (which is expensive in my country, Spain). Is there any solution to start making some money without being an freelance and having to pay 300€ a month for being one?
How do you mean paying 300 a month? To who?
@@rinodeboer that's the fee payment for being a freelancer in Spain, each month.
Oh wow, I didn't know that. Hopefully that comes with some tax benefits. But I am not sure what the rules are in Spain, i should make a few calls to the government and ask them. I do this also when I have a question in The Netherlands about taxes. Sorry, but can't really help you here
I see Bricks Builder 🤓👀
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What's the purpose of bricks tab there? 😅
Pssst, tell nobody 🫣😂
Now you taught how to start.....now teach how to scale....cold emailing, hiring from fiverr etc
A hundred dolars is very expensive in my country, they won't spend a hundred dollar in someone who just start the bussines
I remember a video where you're telling why it's not a good idea to host for your clients. Did you change your mind since then?
Yea I actually did. I should make an update video
@@rinodeboer oh really! 😮
I offered hosting for my clients but after your video I stopped, because I found your points valid. Especially the domain registration on my name. Only domain reselling might be an option to avoid this…
Yea, the problem is that both options have benefits. I still agree with many of the points I made in that video as well 😂
@@rinodeboer I soo forward to the update video 🙌🏻🙏🏻
I thought designing was building the website 😅 so how do you actually sell the design and not build the website?
In the agency world design and coding are seen as two separate things. So most companies even have different people for this (designers and developers), but now with tools like Elementor people think this is the same thing. And it can be the same person, because that’s the whole goal of my channel, but the design is a separate phase in the process. I explained this in my video: “why you should never start in Elementor”. th-cam.com/video/iLEr67qVHrg/w-d-xo.html
Updated: Asana is no longer free to use. 2.12.2023
It's almost illegal that this video is free
why dont you use webflow? its beter than elementor
Yeah, but some clients are already on the WordPress platform so they don't want to change
Coffee, cigarettes, weed - I am already 30 bucks down before I can even think of designing.
Hahah 😅
Bro i charge 30$ for web design 🥲
Are you dutch my man?
Yes, I am!
@@rinodeboer ik dacht het al te horen
Hey Rino! Loved this video, thank you! I just watched another video of you saying that it is better to make every client buy their own hosting, instead of via you (option 4 in this video: th-cam.com/video/sfcGejsltO8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=LivingWithPixels) In this video you seem to say that option 2 is better. Can you tell me what is your current preference :) Thank you!
My current preference is to have my clients on my hosting account and then have the email separate. I will need to make an update video on this. Because I still do agree with many points in that original video.
@@rinodeboer Thank you so much for your answer! Currently I do reseller hosting, mostly because I did not know the best practices yet. I look forward to your update video!
Siteground is by far not the best hosing company tho :,(
Who do you think is the best?
@@rinodeboer I can never say which one is the best, but I have had siteground websites and Namehero websites. In my opinion, Namehero is better because it has a cpanel and litespeed which makes websites way faster and google SEO friendlier
Interesting!
Lol don’t sell your time for cheap. You don’t sell your skill and time for under $1,500 if your in the U.S. if you do your wasting your time. I was charging $2,000 USD as a first timer when I first started with web design. A few hundred dollars a 😂 it’s scraps wtf 😳 if you ask for low price most likely the clients of company’s will be why I’d this so cheap? 🤔 if they know real design and respect it. They will be sketched out. You pay high dollar from the beginning
Really? I was just gonna start web design with $500
why did u delete my comment LOL!!
Zoho Invoicing is awful.