Man, this was really eye-opening for me! I didn’t realize that so many people would donate to Blender. Even as a student, I can afford $5 per month for a program I use almost daily. I think of it as a kind of licensing, but adjusted to my circumstances-especially considering that Cinema 4D for students costs $75 annually. Come on, people! Let’s get Blender the proper funding it deserves! Imagine how much better it could become.
@@Al1987ac it does get good funding from companies but the more the project is being supported independently the better. A huge company could theoretically pull the plug on giving financial support but donations spread across a large community is more stable.
The only thing keeping Blender going is big companies, Open Source free softwares have always had a notoriously cheap userbase unwilling to help out in any monetary capacity. Users even cry and whine about paying 5 dollars to support an add on creator.
Same. Just the fact that my money goes straight into the product (no share- or stakeholder percentages) makes me happy to contribute on a permanent basis.
@@mixchief For me, it's gratitude. I discovered Blender during Covid and learning it kept me sane and now it's my favorite thing to do. All the 'competition' has licenses that costs thousands. Without Blender, i would have never discovered the wacky world of 3D.
That's why we say he and blender is the standard itself, Without him, I think thousands of people would have missed the opportunity to even discover and develop their potential, of what they are capable of doing because of him, Thank you so much for everything you are doing for us❤❤
Lots of respect for you Ton! So many open source projects with potential don't make it big, but your vision and integrity is what brought blender to the height of competing toe to toe with industry giants. 13 years ago when I chose blender, no one around me even knew about it. Nowadays so many artists working in the German game industry vouch for blender, calling it their favorite tool, that's an incredible feat. Happy to be a part of the 2%
I met personally two times with Ton, his humility and intelligence are simply outstanding. Blender has allowed Latinamerica (and the rest of the 3rd world) to create freely without stealing. I wish sometime to bring him here, it will be a dream come true.
There should be a Blender Donor ID that can be attached to people's profiles, assets, productions etc. that mark them as donors and also give them a link to be affiliates for Blender to raise funds. Then there can be awards for those who raise the most. That would be a great way to activate the entire community to proudly show their Blender Badges!
We NEED available for the masses t-shirts and headwear with Roosendaal"s Uncertainty Principal embroidered on the front. (where we've been) People | Society = b/2 (where we're going) Once again, Ton delivers on the best Keynote of 2024! Reminds me, I need to get my subscription to Blender Studio going again ... every little bit helps!
if these examples from video are top sellers then second seller made around 100k $ per year. 10% for BMarket, 20% for taxes - gives around 70k$ - of net income (I doubt 7 years ago that addon was sold for same 55$ price though). Median salary in USA is around 60k $. First seller made around 2x more, which is great income - if he/she made it alone (if not they again we split it by 2 and got another average salary...) . So while these devs, can live from their addons I would not say their pays is much more above average (and if we assume they are the top 1% of BM sellers, then 99% of other sellers wont earn half of that)
Good observations. Ton equates business revenue with "money made" by these addon "resellers"(?). This is at best absurd, and at worst malicious. He ignores historical price developments of these addons over the years, ignores market fees and market subscription fees, ignores discounted sales, ignores affiliate fees. After all these are subtracted taxes will be subtracted from what is left over, and while I'm not sure where you are based, where I am it's more like 40%, or even more, not 20%. In addition, he ignores that these addon devs operate as businesses with all the risk associated. They wear many hats too, they don't just develop the addon, they develop the ideas, workflows, then implement it, then document it, market it and finally have huge overhead from product support, which in many cases consists of explaining Blender basics to customers, and is completely unrelated to the addon itself. Since they operate as businesses, they have the usual business expenses too, and may even have to pay staff or hire temporary help. I can tell you from experience that they pull insane hours too. Think 100hour weeks and weekends are non-existent. Weekends often also see an uptick in support requests, and at least in my case are usually dealt with right then too. Finally, on top of all these fees, cuts and expenses, addon devs are human after all and - just like Ton went through the effort to break down - also pay insurance, rent or mortage, water, heating, internet, and yes also want to pay into a pension fund of some kind. Comparing self-employed addon devs or companies, that build Blender addons to Blender Foundation employees and insinuating, that addon devs make too much money in comparison to them or himself is absolutely wild. He did it before too, and at this point I see it as a toxic trait and active sabotage and vilification explicitly targeted at addon devs, and for some reason not at any other big creators in the blender ecosystem, some of which make plenty more than addon devs and are sitting in the audience. Ton also conveniently and repeatedly has ignored the massive additional value commercial addons bring to the ecosystem in terms of extending and widening Blender's capabilities. I can't count how much I've heard from customers over the years that they switched to Blender due to my addons. I hear similar things from other addon creators. And yet we are the bad guys, and interestingly I have head the same things already when I came into the ecosystem 7 years ago. There is absolutely a disdain for commercial addons within the BF leadership, always has been. I assure you with confidence, that the creator of the second addon didn't make anything close to 700k in 7 years. Although I wish he had.
In this world, you have to donate someone who give you a gift for free, even though he doesn't care who you're, we will leave this world, or may be, donate for your family or child, tomorrow, a new generation will admires your donation.
that's the end of my donations subscriptions. love Blender and been a donator for about a decade to help improve it. now it seems i've been paying ton's morgage and bills. fk him. 10k a month, that's about 5x my take-home and i have all my bills on top of that. nice he can have a laugh and joke about it though.
Man he can make Blender pay and get tens of millions a month, or sell it for hundreds of millions. So shut up and bring your money, because when Adobe owns Blender I'm gonna see your arse on fire.
He creates and manages the creation of blender, 10k is beyond justified. I doubt you'll find anyone in his position giving themselves this low a salary. How would you price yourself if you created a project that's used by millions and it costs nothing? And remember, you didn't just create it but you're still actively managing it. I'd like to hear your thought process, genuinely.
Mh … Could it be … (overall potential of a person) ← (individual potential / growth mindset) * (growth nourishing social environment) With 'growth nourishing social environment' I mean a vivid exchange with others potential and an inspiring culture, worship, an environment which helps the motivation to flourish. A fixed mindset limits individual potential. And a malnourishing discaring social environment could become a limiting burden too.
thanks for many things letting me know !!! and I wish you have already making youe AI virtual human, after you'd be going to star in a universe. are U realize it?! I am sure Sculley has already iliving in the bit world. ofcourse hi`s laughing until now !!! hou about you think of this//// : - )
More top heavy managers divert money so you need to be careful making up all these positions. Future very spread and industry directed. All probably amazing stuff to the few, just not old Blender core, modelling normally. Moving away from most ordinary people/users.
hmmmmmmm no talk about blender 5.0 or what's in the future? it seems the strcuture and the goals have changed. With these big coorperations giving stable financial support to Blender, the team no longer feel the need to make that wow factor it used to have. Even communication with the community has dimmed down which is a shame....I'm afraid Blender and it's vision will be lost over time especially if Ton is no longer in charge.
@@BlenderOfficial My point still stand , the roadamp is catring for the so called cooperations and their needs, and nothing about 5.0, it's like going to be a normal update with no breakthroughs.
@@principedelapaz3593 I'm not exclusivly talking about money here. but if money affects your goals and your principles then you won't grow instead you'll be heading in the wrong direction hence the roadmap is not clear nor the goal are what the community wants to see.
@@xox8717 I mean that blender has reached a stage where it is difficult to develop more and faster. You need developers and managers from the highest level. To bring in one developer with the joy of quality, you need money and a lot of money to cover everything and continue to grow greatly and quickly.
Man, this was really eye-opening for me! I didn’t realize that so many people would donate to Blender. Even as a student, I can afford $5 per month for a program I use almost daily. I think of it as a kind of licensing, but adjusted to my circumstances-especially considering that Cinema 4D for students costs $75 annually. Come on, people! Let’s get Blender the proper funding it deserves! Imagine how much better it could become.
* so little people
I thought it gets good support from big companies, no?
@@Al1987ac it does get good funding from companies but the more the project is being supported independently the better. A huge company could theoretically pull the plug on giving financial support but donations spread across a large community is more stable.
yes even the smallest donation can have a big impact on Blender moving forward, i am a proud to donate to such a worthwhile cause!
The only thing keeping Blender going is big companies, Open Source free softwares have always had a notoriously cheap userbase unwilling to help out in any monetary capacity. Users even cry and whine about paying 5 dollars to support an add on creator.
Watching this inspired me to start donating to the Blender Foundation.
Huge thanks for the fantastic talk, Ton!❤
When i see Ton Roosendaal, i click...
this dude is amazing 😅
This man deserves a statue on my lawn. Respect and admiration.
PROUD to donate my $5 USD a month. It's the only subscription I'm happy to pay, and the only subscription I don't have to pay.
Same. Just the fact that my money goes straight into the product (no share- or stakeholder percentages) makes me happy to contribute on a permanent basis.
@@mixchief For me, it's gratitude. I discovered Blender during Covid and learning it kept me sane and now it's my favorite thing to do. All the 'competition' has licenses that costs thousands. Without Blender, i would have never discovered the wacky world of 3D.
Financial transparency builds an incalculable amount of trust with any community.
This guy is a legend!! Thank you for everything!
That's why we say he and blender is the standard itself, Without him, I think thousands of people would have missed the opportunity to even discover and develop their potential, of what they are capable of doing because of him,
Thank you so much for everything you are doing for us❤❤
Don't hope for others to save the things we love. We'll have to do it ourself. Donate to Blender y'all!
I am so grateful for the example that Blender has shown. The transparency, the integrity, the resourcefulness, the ingenuity…God bless you all ❤😂
Because of him we have Blender FeelsGoodMan
Lots of respect for you Ton! So many open source projects with potential don't make it big, but your vision and integrity is what brought blender to the height of competing toe to toe with industry giants. 13 years ago when I chose blender, no one around me even knew about it. Nowadays so many artists working in the German game industry vouch for blender, calling it their favorite tool, that's an incredible feat. Happy to be a part of the 2%
Been working with Blender for 18 years now, and time flies so quickly😃
congratulations to you for your continued Blender work.
Happy Birthday Blender we love you 😢🎉
The legend himself.
Just joined the dev fund🧡
Love you, man! You are the best!
I love blender..Thank you and Respect for you Sr.
Thank you Ton and the Blender Foundation for making this possible. Just donated and will start to do it regularly.🧡
Its like Christmas for me, so glad to see you
wow i was waiting for him. very emotional , he is great
Legend, thank you hopefully for many years !
when I have enough extra money, blender is the first i would donate to and be part of the 98% lol. What a great company!
Ton, you and your teams are the best - still love blender after so many years 🙏❤
I met personally two times with Ton, his humility and intelligence are simply outstanding. Blender has allowed Latinamerica (and the rest of the 3rd world) to create freely without stealing. I wish sometime to bring him here, it will be a dream come true.
Blender is something really special. ♥
My €50 per month is well spent! Thanks, Ton & Team!
I started my monthly donation today! I am using Blender as a hobby. Happy to contribute to the growth of this amazing software
Comparing this to the recent apple event is like night and day
good luck in the coming year to all at Blender, you make it what it is; in conjunction with us users! Love what you continue to do!💙
Thank you, dear Ton.
There should be a Blender Donor ID that can be attached to people's profiles, assets, productions etc. that mark them as donors and also give them a link to be affiliates for Blender to raise funds. Then there can be awards for those who raise the most. That would be a great way to activate the entire community to proudly show their Blender Badges!
Wait, I was born in 1994 like Blender too. That's why I've such a good connection with the software from the early days 😄
happy birthday to blender! happy blending
So clean and smooth! So genius!
Donating again after seeing this. Like a modern Willy Wonka he is inspiring us to continue to love the heart(s) behind the product.
Amazing inspiring Ton roosendaal …
this guy is the most amazing dude on the fckng planet, and the blender community is just an awesome blessing !!!!
Cool development and happy birthday!!!
I donated again after watching this video.
wow youtube did some bizzare stuff while I was watching.
A good talk. Reminded me that I prefer to be part of the 2%.
Proud part of the 2%! No pressure to people that can't or don't want to though :D
it's him, the john blender
The GOAT😊🎉
Thank you Ton
The volcano model, Is Blender the first to introduce this?
Ton is a legend! always happy to see him
Kinda late on this video, happy to be watching all these cool updates. Hope to check out some other ones from the conference.
Wishing him all the best of health and the longest life.
We NEED available for the masses t-shirts and headwear with Roosendaal"s Uncertainty Principal embroidered on the front. (where we've been) People | Society = b/2 (where we're going)
Once again, Ton delivers on the best Keynote of 2024! Reminds me, I need to get my subscription to Blender Studio going again ... every little bit helps!
Great Speech. Very informative and entertaining.
BABA Blender at it again!
Aswear bro
Love that closing!
Legend.
liked on trust, then watched ❤
I liked the video before it even loaded. Ton is a visionary
Thank you x
Most addon makers are "paid" a tiny fraction of what Blender devs are. Most are not paid at all.
if these examples from video are top sellers then second seller made around 100k $ per year. 10% for BMarket, 20% for taxes - gives around 70k$ - of net income (I doubt 7 years ago that addon was sold for same 55$ price though). Median salary in USA is around 60k $. First seller made around 2x more, which is great income - if he/she made it alone (if not they again we split it by 2 and got another average salary...) . So while these devs, can live from their addons I would not say their pays is much more above average (and if we assume they are the top 1% of BM sellers, then 99% of other sellers wont earn half of that)
Good observations. Ton equates business revenue with "money made" by these addon "resellers"(?). This is at best absurd, and at worst malicious. He ignores historical price developments of these addons over the years, ignores market fees and market subscription fees, ignores discounted sales, ignores affiliate fees. After all these are subtracted taxes will be subtracted from what is left over, and while I'm not sure where you are based, where I am it's more like 40%, or even more, not 20%.
In addition, he ignores that these addon devs operate as businesses with all the risk associated. They wear many hats too, they don't just develop the addon, they develop the ideas, workflows, then implement it, then document it, market it and finally have huge overhead from product support, which in many cases consists of explaining Blender basics to customers, and is completely unrelated to the addon itself. Since they operate as businesses, they have the usual business expenses too, and may even have to pay staff or hire temporary help. I can tell you from experience that they pull insane hours too. Think 100hour weeks and weekends are non-existent. Weekends often also see an uptick in support requests, and at least in my case are usually dealt with right then too.
Finally, on top of all these fees, cuts and expenses, addon devs are human after all and - just like Ton went through the effort to break down - also pay insurance, rent or mortage, water, heating, internet, and yes also want to pay into a pension fund of some kind.
Comparing self-employed addon devs or companies, that build Blender addons to Blender Foundation employees and insinuating, that addon devs make too much money in comparison to them or himself is absolutely wild. He did it before too, and at this point I see it as a toxic trait and active sabotage and vilification explicitly targeted at addon devs, and for some reason not at any other big creators in the blender ecosystem, some of which make plenty more than addon devs and are sitting in the audience.
Ton also conveniently and repeatedly has ignored the massive additional value commercial addons bring to the ecosystem in terms of extending and widening Blender's capabilities.
I can't count how much I've heard from customers over the years that they switched to Blender due to my addons. I hear similar things from other addon creators.
And yet we are the bad guys, and interestingly I have head the same things already when I came into the ecosystem 7 years ago.
There is absolutely a disdain for commercial addons within the BF leadership, always has been.
I assure you with confidence, that the creator of the second addon didn't make anything close to 700k in 7 years. Although I wish he had.
The fact that this man is only making $120k a year is criminal. What a hero.
谢谢你，创造了它。
will grease pencil replace curves?
This man needs more than 10k a month 😎
Allow paid extension on the blender website, bet that would help.
Would be interesting to see how these user numbers compare to the Steam Blender Users
Blender thank you so much for providing a tool at work so I can escape Maya
He is our Stanley
Blender will only get better.
please donate to blender 💖💖
In this world, you have to donate someone who give you a gift for free, even though he doesn't care who you're, we will leave this world, or may be, donate for your family or child, tomorrow, a new generation will admires your donation.
Good video
great man respect
Would it be feasible to create a port of Blender that works as a plugin for Unreal Engine 5?
Our Hero!
Is there more information somewhere, a case study perhaps, on the use of Blender in the creation of Sonic X Shadow Generations? I would love to more!
Please come to Atlanta ga .
❤
13:59 exactly 😞
Awesome dude! And impresive how nowadays still with the AI in every one's mouth, this comunity still grows!!
You spoiled the billboard in the thumbnail! 😂
The myth and legend
💚💚💚
Dünyayı değiştirecek insanlara umut olan Kral
I really thought his hair is purple now
I didnt expexted 39k for the Recording of the event.
Good
that's the end of my donations subscriptions. love Blender and been a donator for about a decade to help improve it. now it seems i've been paying ton's morgage and bills. fk him. 10k a month, that's about 5x my take-home and i have all my bills on top of that. nice he can have a laugh and joke about it though.
Man he can make Blender pay and get tens of millions a month, or sell it for hundreds of millions. So shut up and bring your money, because when Adobe owns Blender I'm gonna see your arse on fire.
He creates and manages the creation of blender, 10k is beyond justified. I doubt you'll find anyone in his position giving themselves this low a salary. How would you price yourself if you created a project that's used by millions and it costs nothing? And remember, you didn't just create it but you're still actively managing it. I'd like to hear your thought process, genuinely.
Is it possible to donate using crypto?
Yes! At fund.blender.org/donate-once/#crypto
Thank you! 🧡
Mh … Could it be …
(overall potential of a person) ← (individual potential / growth mindset) * (growth nourishing social environment)
With 'growth nourishing social environment' I mean a vivid exchange with others potential and an inspiring culture, worship, an environment which helps the motivation to flourish.
A fixed mindset limits individual potential. And a malnourishing discaring social environment could become a limiting burden too.
Amazing man. Amazing model! Just please, please PLEASE, don't go woke.
🥹💎💎❤❤
thanks for many things letting me know !!! and I wish you have already making youe AI virtual human, after you'd be going to star in a universe. are U realize it?! I am sure Sculley has already iliving in the bit world. ofcourse hi`s laughing until now !!! hou about you think of this//// : - )
More top heavy managers divert money so you need to be careful making up all these positions. Future very spread and industry directed. All probably amazing stuff to the few, just not old Blender core, modelling normally. Moving away from most ordinary people/users.
Blender is turning into the new Unreal Engine!
blender yyds
😓😓 blender is need money bro without money blender is never growing up ever
hmmmmmmm no talk about blender 5.0 or what's in the future? it seems the strcuture and the goals have changed.
With these big coorperations giving stable financial support to Blender, the team no longer feel the need to make that wow factor it used to have. Even communication with the community has dimmed down which is a shame....I'm afraid Blender and it's vision will be lost over time especially if Ton is no longer in charge.
You may be interested in the Blender Roadmap talk: th-cam.com/video/esZZGRAJOa0/w-d-xo.html
😓😓 blender is need money bro without money blender is never growing up ever
@@BlenderOfficial My point still stand , the roadamp is catring for the so called cooperations and their needs, and nothing about 5.0, it's like going to be a normal update with no breakthroughs.
@@principedelapaz3593 I'm not exclusivly talking about money here. but if money affects your goals and your principles then you won't grow instead you'll be heading in the wrong direction hence the roadmap is not clear nor the goal are what the community wants to see.
@@xox8717 I mean that blender has reached a stage where it is difficult to develop more and faster. You need developers and managers from the highest level. To bring in one developer with the joy of quality, you need money and a lot of money to cover everything and continue to grow greatly and quickly.
Ton roonsendaal sir create lost of artist created 😮 and blender foundation big chalenge is AI lots of AI tools free to few minutes to make animation
Worst piece of crap ever.