two shield buttons isn’t possible on corded gamecube controllers unless u put jump on just the X Y buttons or back on the joystick, neither of which are good options :/
You can use shield + b or if you have two shield buttons holding both will make sure you can move the shield without roll or spot dodge. Just another option.
Yoshi doesn't evade taxes by sweeping them under the rug. He up air ladders them out of the atmosphere. If it works, why not bring it to the battlefield? So yeah, I guess you CAN call him "cheap"
@@GimR Maybe on some week when you can't do the usual (destroying everything considered sacred in Smash) you could do something like walk people through your troubleshooting process; ie "Yoshi can't do ___. How do I work around this?" You've got a brute strength in how concrete your content is, but it would be a fun mix-up to see how you arrive at these wild techs so often. Like a "In the Lab" series... We really appreciate you, my dude. PS-God is my Rock, too.👊
I'm so happy that this was a real video. This is why the bell is on for my boy, GimR. Unfortunately, 2 of my 3 characters were shown as examples of people who can't use this... but it's still something that's good to know!
Oh I get it, so because your parry box is stuck in place, moving your shield down actually makes the parry box wider (in a sense) thats actually cool af.
@@bluespidrlily Because the parry box is static meaning it never moves with the shield. So moving the shield up would cover up the parry window even more.
Snake can't hold b during shield to lock himself into shield, either. I'm guessing this has to do with his grenades. Plus his grab works differently than every other grab, so it's safe to say he has his fair share of special code to make him work properly. An alternative to holding special+shield is holding shield twice (both triggers by default, or trigger+x/y, if you use a control scheme like that) and this works for every character. Just in case somebody missed BSD's video, it's worth mentioning.
You can also hold 2 shield buttons to tilt your shield in any direction which is good to know, especially if you're an inkling player. Thanks for the good vid gimr keep it up!
Oh my god you weren't even explaining parries themselves but you are the only person who can have them make sense to me I can't wait to try actually knowing how the work
I didn't initially understand how to apply this, but after watching that tourney match where you parried the crap out of that Wolf as Icies, this makes a lot more sense.
its probably been said somewhere, but its actually more beneficial to shield tilt by using L+R, or any 2 jump buttons simultaneously. if you develop that habit over the shield+B then you can still shield tilt naturally even when playing as inkling and snake (or any other character that may not be able to press B and shield at the same time)
So basically, tilt your shield down when someone’s coming at you with an ariel from above, so that their move doesn’t hit your shield as soon, and you have more time to parry that Ariel?
I'm sure many people know, but you can also hold two shield buttons at the same time to shield macro, which is essentialy only useful for Inkling players.
IDK if this is a new thing as a result of patch 2.02, but if you hold both shield buttons it allows you to tilt your sheild without dodging just like you were holding shield + B. Makes the tech more plausible for Inkling to pull off.
The other way to shield tilt real fast (of which does work for inkling) is to hold down both shield buttons. I think it's more useful in general as it leaves B open for punish options as well.
This is very similar to how in melee, characters with really short crouches or dashes can go under projectiles and attacks and then shield to easily powershield
There is something very similar, that players did in smash 4 (on probably even brawl?) You would crouch first and then press shield. Since the shield forces you to stand up, you could press shield, when they entered your "normal" character height.
I’m just gonna put this here real quick, for some reason Snake can’t use the B+Shield to tilt his shield. No clue why but every time I’ve tested it it works for everyone but Snake (and inkling of course)
You can use two shield buttons instead. When Snake shields, he drops any held grenade, and that input would be B + Shield, but I'm not sure if that's exactly why Snake can't do that.
This tech is called reverse april fools joke where the audience is baited with the expectation of a joke but presented with the actual and factual information
Eh? If your shield is chunked then shifting it towards the opponent's attack reduces their ability to shield stab you. Not related to this video but it's always been useful in some scenarios.
it made more sense when they introduced it in melee because you could mess up people's L-cancel timing by moving your shield's hitbox, as well as control the direction/distance you are knocked back in shield via tilt and light-shielding (aka shield DI). even after that, it still has minor use because you can tilt the shield to cover a character's exposed feet or hands, preventing a shield poke.
I'm not sure I understand this correctly. So you can drop shield up to 5 frames before a move enters the parry box in order to parry regularly, and in addition also during the frames that the hit box is in your parry box but has not yet hit your shield/hurtbox? And that time is extended by tilting your shield away from the hit?
Gimr, can you test how much less shieldstun aerial attacks do compared to grounded moves? This is a confirmed tip in the Tips section of the Vault, but I just want to see the shieldstun multiplier for aerial attacks and if it has a great impact on gameplay. Great video!
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April fools...?
GimR does this mean you can parry with both Ice Climbers?
2 hours late. Disappointed
Wait, the double shield tilt method isn't the more reliable ?
this video is verry good for yoshi xD.
I was approaching this video with so much caution lol
Epic Box ikr cuz it’s April fools lol
The parrying meta is gonna get sick, turned on notifications for this man and he always delivers, thanks Gimr
Taylor649 same
Lol.
@@Oxhiavelli why lol?
@@lucasyang7410 the meta hasn't went anywhere since of covid
"this isn't an April fool's joke btw"
-gimr on Twitter. This is real.
The April Fool's part was "gotta go meet my gf"
@@d.s.alcoda he actually has a gf. Lol
are there actually people that think it's not real? it's so simple it wouldn't even make a good joke :\
@@rumfordc well. Depend people don't take it as a joke.
@@rumfordc flat Earthers think the earth is flat
I spent the entire video waiting for the joke.
Now I'll have to rewatch it and actually pay attention.
Wraith Ferron that’s me lol 😂
For you Inkling mains out there just make sure you have two shield butttons, pressing two shields is the same as shield + b.
Yup! And if your triggers are all jumbled to jump and special and stuff, just sub X to shield as well!
same for snake players
If you're using sideways joycon I recommend setting the ZR/ZL bumper at either the left or right of the joycon to shield, so you can shield shift.
Gabriel Aidley A.K.A Inkirby why the fuck are you tryna implement tech on a single joycon lol
two shield buttons isn’t possible on corded gamecube controllers unless u put jump on just the X Y buttons or back on the joystick, neither of which are good options :/
You can use shield + b or if you have two shield buttons holding both will make sure you can move the shield without roll or spot dodge. Just another option.
he mentions that
BSD mentioned that. Not Gimr.
you can also youse zr and zl i think
Yes, the 2 shield buttons. Just like we said.
Timestamp? I've been looking for it in cased I missed it. He only said "unless you're inkling" but never explained the 2 shield button alternative.
Everyone: "Parry Shifting should be useful"
Yoshi Mains: 🙁
That's the April fool's joke, just at us...
yoshi is cheap so yeah you guys don't deserve good tips
@@kachosuffer7
How is he cheap
Please elaborate
@Umerithiel
Its not that bad it does 32% max and its down air
Thers others who are far worse
Yoshi doesn't evade taxes by sweeping them under the rug. He up air ladders them out of the atmosphere. If it works, why not bring it to the battlefield? So yeah, I guess you CAN call him "cheap"
Completly broken meta changing tech for yoshi mains.
Thanks for the informative video as always.
/jk
Y'alls Parry is trash 😂
@@GimR Maybe on some week when you can't do the usual (destroying everything considered sacred in Smash) you could do something like walk people through your troubleshooting process; ie "Yoshi can't do ___. How do I work around this?" You've got a brute strength in how concrete your content is, but it would be a fun mix-up to see how you arrive at these wild techs so often. Like a "In the Lab" series... We really appreciate you, my dude.
PS-God is my Rock, too.👊
I'm so happy that this was a real video.
This is why the bell is on for my boy, GimR.
Unfortunately, 2 of my 3 characters were shown as examples of people who can't use this... but it's still something that's good to know!
If you see someone tilting their shield in the wrong direction it's fishy is what you know lol.
2 of 3?
Oh, another bad April fool's joke...
Wait no wtf this is real OMG
*Dies of hype*
That comment made me dismiss the vid till I saw the rest lmao
Every time you upload i learn something useful. Thank You.
Oh I get it, so because your parry box is stuck in place, moving your shield down actually makes the parry box wider (in a sense) thats actually cool af.
@@bluespidrlily Because the parry box is static meaning it never moves with the shield. So moving the shield up would cover up the parry window even more.
Thanks for breaking It down like this, my dumb ass couldn’t get it
@@FreezeFlares ohhhhhhhhhh I get ittttt
Snake can't hold b during shield to lock himself into shield, either. I'm guessing this has to do with his grenades. Plus his grab works differently than every other grab, so it's safe to say he has his fair share of special code to make him work properly.
An alternative to holding special+shield is holding shield twice (both triggers by default, or trigger+x/y, if you use a control scheme like that) and this works for every character.
Just in case somebody missed BSD's video, it's worth mentioning.
"If you hold B you can tilt your shield all you want without spot dodging"
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
Also you can press both shield buttons if you have two shield buttons
shield+b
These videos are like 2 seconds of the actual tech we came to see and like 6 minutes of Gimrs face.
I dunno about you but I came to see Gimr's face.
Snake also cant tilt with shield+B just a heads up so double shield for him as well iirc
You can also hold 2 shield buttons to tilt your shield in any direction which is good to know, especially if you're an inkling player. Thanks for the good vid gimr keep it up!
or snake!
a follow up to the shield tilting, if you hold 2 shield buttons simultaneously, you can tilt the shield rapidly as well.
You can do shield tilting trick by holding both shield buttons as well.
Oh my god you weren't even explaining parries themselves but you are the only person who can have them make sense to me I can't wait to try actually knowing how the work
6:00 You can also press both shield buttons for the same effect if that's more comfortable for you
I didn't initially understand how to apply this, but after watching that tourney match where you parried the crap out of that Wolf as Icies, this makes a lot more sense.
its probably been said somewhere, but its actually more beneficial to shield tilt by using L+R, or any 2 jump buttons simultaneously. if you develop that habit over the shield+B then you can still shield tilt naturally even when playing as inkling and snake (or any other character that may not be able to press B and shield at the same time)
Parry option selects are sick
So basically, tilt your shield down when someone’s coming at you with an ariel from above, so that their move doesn’t hit your shield as soon, and you have more time to parry that Ariel?
Yeah
I'm sure many people know, but you can also hold two shield buttons at the same time to shield macro, which is essentialy only useful for Inkling players.
and snake!
you can also press l and r (both shield buttons) at the same time to move your shield instead of using shield and b
IDK if this is a new thing as a result of patch 2.02, but if you hold both shield buttons it allows you to tilt your sheild without dodging just like you were holding shield + B. Makes the tech more plausible for Inkling to pull off.
*5:49
You can also press both shield buttons if you have a pro controller or PDP controller. So there you go inkling mains.
Setting two shield buttons and holding them both will also allow you to tilt your shield as much as you want, as soon as you want.
You can also hold down two shield buttons (more commonly L and R) to tilt the shield freely
This makes me want to get back into the scene, I won't lie.
just realising you can shift your shield and that you can't go through other players. could you tilt shield to block the ledge
Nope it just pushes you out the way nice idea but that would be so broken haha
@@wowftw120 man i wanted a broken strat in smash
This channel is just superb. I've learned so much your videos. Keep up the great work!
One of the only youtubers who didnt make a april fools video
Such dedication!
The other way to shield tilt real fast (of which does work for inkling) is to hold down both shield buttons. I think it's more useful in general as it leaves B open for punish options as well.
This is very similar to how in melee, characters with really short crouches or dashes can go under projectiles and attacks and then shield to easily powershield
Gimr - the only labber that finds stuff that noone actually knew about. Respect.
Btw you can also hold down both shield buttons (ZR and ZL buttons) and you won’t roll or spot dodge, for the inkling and snake players.
"Woreo"
The new Oreo flavor.
The outro fits even better on this one!
Also you can tilt your shield without spot dodging if you hold another shield button at the same time
There is something very similar, that players did in smash 4 (on probably even brawl?)
You would crouch first and then press shield. Since the shield forces you to stand up, you could press shield, when they entered your "normal" character height.
To make it easier to tilt your shield in the moment, you can press two shield buttons at the same time which is easier than shielding and holding B.
If you're using Inkling, you can move your shield freely with out rolling by holding two shield buttons at the same time.
nobody:
fox: nair
Wolf: *CLEARS TROATH*nair
Snake: THERE
Luigi: *Observe.* Parrys into up-b.
GIMR YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN
I’m just gonna put this here real quick, for some reason Snake can’t use the B+Shield to tilt his shield. No clue why but every time I’ve tested it it works for everyone but Snake (and inkling of course)
You can use two shield buttons instead. When Snake shields, he drops any held grenade, and that input would be B + Shield, but I'm not sure if that's exactly why Snake can't do that.
Kirby with snake's copy ability can't do it with shield+special either
Really? Finally I can tilt shields with Yoshi. Thank you for informing me that this works with _every_ character except the two you mentioned.
You can use shield+b or double shield hold to move your shield freely.
4:01
Wario: "I've made a terrible mistake"
Another great video! I'm glad you're making content again; I'm really enjoying it!
loving these videos, gimr. keep up the great work!
You can also use two mapped shield buttons to shift shield without rolling or spot dodging.
Didn't know that a fast-falled aerial sent you back to slow fall unless holding down or clicking down again.
He's talking about aerial then fastfall. If you fastfall after your aerial you will stay in fastfall
This tech is called reverse april fools joke
where the audience is baited with the expectation of a joke but presented with the actual and factual information
5:55 or two shield buttons
Oh and if you’re inkling, press two shield buttons at once if you have them, this method also keeps you in place
Sword characters: “What have you done, you’ve doomed us all!!”
You can also hold two shield buttons to tilt your shield.
an actual guide to Smash Ultimate and it's not a joke??!?! GIMR IS A MADMAN!!!
5:53 you can also press 2 shield buttons at the same time
I feel if Light learns this. He'll just become a parry god.
Or you can hold two shield buttons to not spot dodge or roll, so that inklings can do so
I believe if you hold down two shield buttons you can also shift your shield without spot dodging or rolling.
You can hold both shield triggers to not roll or spot dodge
Gim's has been in the lab for a while this time, he looks exhausted
You can also move shields while holding two different shield buttons
Thanks for not doing a dumb April Fools joke!
What!? I knew you could move your shield freely if you hold both R and L, didn't know it worked with B.
You can also hold both zr and zl at the same time if you have a pro controller
Double shield works as well for shield tilting.
Great info! Seems I should be able to apply this to Luigi pretty well.
what's the back to the lab again tune, sounds like 00's hip hop, i like it
It's also possible to shift the shield by holding 2 shield buttons.
This is where we recreate the Daigo parry moment. 👍
Wait fastfall is different in this game ????
And I thought shield shifting was a useless tech
Eh? If your shield is chunked then shifting it towards the opponent's attack reduces their ability to shield stab you. Not related to this video but it's always been useful in some scenarios.
it made more sense when they introduced it in melee because you could mess up people's L-cancel timing by moving your shield's hitbox, as well as control the direction/distance you are knocked back in shield via tilt and light-shielding (aka shield DI). even after that, it still has minor use because you can tilt the shield to cover a character's exposed feet or hands, preventing a shield poke.
Oh, nice. Also this tech is here since smash 64
@@luis-lt4gn you're right, my b. just not the light shielding
P sure you can hold two shield buttons and be able to tilt shields quicker as well.
*Thank you Sensei GimR-san*
I'm not sure I understand this correctly. So you can drop shield up to 5 frames before a move enters the parry box in order to parry regularly, and in addition also during the frames that the hit box is in your parry box but has not yet hit your shield/hurtbox? And that time is extended by tilting your shield away from the hit?
Am I the only one who always watches Gimr videos until the very end just to hear the „back to the lab again“ song?
Big ups to Gimr for not putting up an April Fool's joke
locking your shield doesn't only work with B but also with another shieldbutton, so inkling can do it too
Im scared that i cant tell if this is a joke or not send help
Same
It's real
The parry god only gets stronger. 🙏
Like always you deliver some seriously useful content my dude:)
Keep it up
Thank you!
Thanks to your shield stun cancelling video
It saved me in tournaments and in friendlies !
Anyways, back to the lab again
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
Gimr, can you test how much less shieldstun aerial attacks do compared to grounded moves? This is a confirmed tip in the Tips section of the Vault, but I just want to see the shieldstun multiplier for aerial attacks and if it has a great impact on gameplay. Great video!
If you up smash out of shield does the party mechanics still apply? Also for up b and jump options?
*Thanks for not April Fooling your smash fam*
Love ya maaaaaan ✊👽😎
You can also avoid dodging by holding two l and r at the same time
It reminds me of how Yoshi's parry in Melee is easier to do it out of crouch. Good stuff to know all around.
wait, you have to hold down to maintain fastfall speeds?
You can also hold both zr and zl at the same time
Time to go lab this out! Thanks for the dope tech Gimz
I need to learn how to parry. Especially as I main lucario who has almost non existent oos options
Doesn't Jigglypuff have a slightly bigger shield? Would the parry be bigger or the same as everyone else's parry?
If you have 2 sheild buttons it does the same thing as shield + B