Liquid Metal Cooling a PHONE!?!?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2018
- It's a really bad idea to put Liquid Metal in your phone - so we're going to try it.
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Dang man! Sweet project.
I would just recommend always disconnecting the battery first, before anything else. (And plugging it in last) probably not a big deal. But better safe than sorry. Phones are expensive.
Could you do an updated liquid-cool-a-phone video? :P
JerryRigEverything im surprised no likes on ur comment only 26 ..... u deserve more
I knew Jerry will comment xD.... Do a video about this :P
Do a comparison between what linus did and normal high quality thermal paste
O rly Z zz? He has phone repair videos too.
"That's a super risky, maybe even bad idea. So we're gonna show you how to do it!"
Linus Tech Tips in a nutshell.
thats porn in a nutshell
Lmao
Nice pfp
Do I hear liquid metal consoles next...?
I used aluminum foil (actually folded onto itself, shiny side facing inward). It worked pretty good, that's still what's in my PS3 between the heatsink and CPU, nice and queit.
At the time I didn't have thermal paste. It had been overheating, but this fixed it. The idea was similar to copper shims, but with what I had in the kitchen.
if we knew this in 2008, there would be less rrod or ylod.
Spawn Wave
This is a PCMR channel
That makes a lot of sense.
whats next? "Liquid Metal Cooling a SMARTWATCH!?!?!"
B.I.M Hero Idk, why not :D
Liquid metal to cool you off during summer says
Lol, a moronic idea that will get millions of views!
a calculator
YES 🤡🤡🤡
"Liquid metal, it's a hell of a drug you know" - Linus 2018
Ah shit it was already 5yr
"After we tell you to-"
*10 sec >>>
"Through our link be-"
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story of my life
I want my 20 Seconds back
Saved 20 secs from the ads..
Wastes 30 secs reading comments like this..
@@triparadox.c Yeah but comments like this are fun to read =)
You are a good man, thank you
"You notice something getting kind of hot in your pants."
Me: **Note 7 flashbacks coming off again to my mind.**
@Johnfuse no it was the Note 7 i also got consused.
Modern day Nord 2
“You feel it getting warm and hard and harder”... Linus 2018
In your pants, no less!
Next video: Liquid Metal in a human???
Liquid Metal the Tide Pod Snacks...
On a woman on her period
Gus Cantu Tide pods are Fucking delicious. I just ordered a whole crate of grape flavored tide pods to share with my family in Compton.
frikynikkid so, a terminator?
genius idea: lets insert liquid metal in bionic limbs for people lol
Don't make the squirty mistake like last time...
FastLikeUNO *_OH MY_*
Arkines oh yea
FastLikeUNO Linus always squirts.
not anymore
he squirts too much every time as well :/
loved the ending btw "do you think the editor is going to go through this fottage and listen to it??" xD 8:36
Always disconnect the battery ribbon first /JerryRigEverything
Or play it risky! No your correct, it is too easy to turn on your phone accidentally when its apart.
Just like little Legos!
I always feel ripped off when the sponsor isn't Tunnel Bear :(
I was expecting Tunnel Bear too!
Tunnelbear sucks get a proper VPN.
James what would you recommend
James what vpn would you recommend?
NordVPN
Next - Watercool your phone!
Kinda like dropping it in the toilet.
it was already done. linus tested it in four phones
Liquid metal a water cooled PC.
No, replace the water in your loop with liquid metal
Sir Launcelot no, he is saying to watercool the CPU with everything like- the pump, reservoir, radiator, tubing, coolant etc
Now finally I can play flappy bird at a constant 100 FPS! Thank you, liquid metal!
I never understood the logic behind the CPU power/speed wars on mobile phones...
What's the point of having flagship phones that throttle down to the speed of regular phones within a few minutes of load/gaming due to overheating? Are we going to see fans strapped to our smartphones in the future? Why not just make something that performs efficiently and sustainably, but still fast?
The smartphone industry should have a main focus on efficiency and battery life instead, since we already have enough processing power on them to do pretty much anything you'd want on a phone anyway. Pure speed shouldn't come before efficiency in this case.
Exactly. Who the hell games on a phone anyway?
I think there are some things you aren’t understanding about this. While you may not feel like the extra performance matters because you aren’t gaming, it does make a huge difference to app launch times, app switch times, background processes, and internal OS optimization. When it comes to phones not performing “consistently and sustainably”, it doesn’t matter to most users, that short burst of unsustainable speed means that the tasks I listed above (which tend to be much more computationally intensive) perform more quickly. Also, what you’re asking for is already being done, processors are more power efficient and run cooler, they just boost their clock speeds when necessary - they would reach the same thermal thrilling temperature at a lower speed over a slightly longer period of time anyways.
I like to talk about the more extreme cases of throttling which are quite prevalent, because I feel like there isn't enough thermal or battery life headroom right now since everyone is so tunnel-visioned on performance. Especially considering that just using the camera/recording video or charging the phone while using it greatly increases temperatures and throttling in addition to the possibility of high ambient air temperature in some environments.
The throttling and unsustainability of "high performance" just seems wasted and pointless on everything that isn't a brief workload, and in a way is a kind of false advertisement. Overheating seems excessive these in recent years to the point where it actually somewhat outweighs the pros of the intended design considerations of speeding up already fairly short tasks. Just look at what happened with the Snapdragon 820/810.
checkout "lumia 520 cooling fan" these things are like why not do it
Gaming on phone xD made my day
Flash custom kernel and overclock it XD
Yeaah boy!
Brick it and have the most brick-like bricked phone out there.
Or grow up, get a life and have normal hobbies..
You could just custom kernel and never have low power modes. One would think by now, that game apps that need speed would disable the throttling of the CPU/GPU.
@@sebastian_hakansson78 Can't we have multiple hobbies? Take is awesome it is part of life
0:23
That's all I'm gonna say
Congratulations, you got the joke!
well shit, the "How to Hide your Porn" video is back my bois
Lol
LinusSexTips
That was too good!!! 😂😂😂
0:23 Linus Sex Tips
For virgin acne computer-nerds maybe.. Get a life and get out more!
Only fans
This deserves a thumbs up just for the exploding cell phone and the reaction to both freaking out and running away.😂
They should test the phone with only better thermal paste. This would show how much liquid metal helped.
Liquid metal > RGB
Dennis Premoli but RGB = 200% more fps, so RGB wins
RGB means only 69% so ur not completely right
Dennis Premoli liquid metal + RGB?
Get out
Nick Rajaie no u
I thought he was going to say tunnel bear, sunglasses cought me by surprise.
"That's risky, but we gonna to show you how to do it" 😂😂😂😂 I'm dead 😂
Liquid metal in a wifi router
No more Wifi randomly cutting off... Unless you live in a place with sucky internet like I do. :(
Jorion Edwards living on the countryside myself, love my 16 mbit/s wifi
Next try a Nintendo Switch. Or PS4.
Switch would be great given it’s smaller lower powered processor
Usually when you see commercials from TV you feel annoyed. But when you see them here presented by Linus then it’s actually quite enjoyable 😁
Nice and fun video as always!
Love how he always says "it's a bad idea" then proceeds to tell you how to do it.
That sound like a bad idea. SO WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO DO IT! :D
Jona1h.n LTT in a nutshell
Bob Newell, obviously XD
Use Nutella for thermal paste.
yum yum
And they actually did it
I love how you always think these things through Linus.
So I love videos that help with cooling, and as an owner of this phone since ~mid 2018, it has gotten SUPER hot whenever I play games, so when I get another phone next, I guess I'm gonna give this a shot.
1. Is that a black power ranger jacket?
2. I've seen just about every Linus video there is, and I've never once used TunnelBear
But you have a fast and simple website?
Flame Beats nope
Don't forget about dbrand.
What about ting?
Could use some liquid metal under my heat sink, been fighting off a fever since the weekend.
SDG Danny me too,my benchmarks are messed up right now.
720p double monitor
39C° after 2 minutes of booting the system
Low energy delivery...
Tiago Yeah and fan noises are abnormal, sometimes they don't even spin up
*IT'S A LIKE BOTTER EVERYONE!*
*cOuLd UsE sOmE lIqUiD mEtAl uNdEr My HeAt SiNk, BeEn FiGhTiNg OfF a FeVeR sInCe ThE wEeKeNd.*
*cOuLd UsE sOmE lIqUiD mEtAl uNdEr My HeAt SiNk, BeEn FiGhTiNg OfF a FeVeR sInCe ThE wEeKeNd. :
I did more reading about this stuff since I'm interested in using LM for my own laptop, and it seems corrosion is not out of the norm.
Typically when LM is used under the IHS of a desktop CPU (often necessary for intel chips since they bond the IHS to silicon with toothpaste instead of solder) the results are pretty good even after a year. The IHS (which is made out of copper, then nickel plated) does get stained by the LM but nowhere near what happened to you. This is because your contact (in a laptop) is silicon die LM copper heatsink. In the desktop scenario, LM is often applied underneath the IHS so the contact is silicon die LM nickel plating copper.
To be even more clear, the key differences in your application of LM is that
1. Your application was silicon-copper instead of being silicon-nickel as you would find in the 'delidding' of a desktop CPU
2. Your application was not insulated against air (read: oxygen)
1 is important because the electrode potential of gallium is -0.53V, nickel -0.24V, and copper +0.34V. Obviously, all liquid metals are made out of gallium (because Ga is liquid at room temp, and is also nontoxic unlike mercury) plus small percentages of other metals to reduce the melting point. When gallium is in contact with pure copper, the differences in electrode potential favors the gallium and copper to alloy, which will eventually consume the gallium completely[1] (Ga + Cu → CuGa2 [67%] + Cu3Ga [11%], and both products are stable until 175C)[1][2].
The liquid metal will literally into the copper until the gallium is gone, which causes the copper to turn silver-ish. The non-gallium components (indium, tin) of the liquid metal[3], which are solid at room temperature, get left behind - and that stuff is hardened deposit that you were trying to scrub off the heatsink.
Note that at higher temperatures, the reaction between gallium and the copper heatsink only gets faster.
2 is important because the gallium based LM components can and do oxidize. This is the reason why people generally recommend sealing your contact as much as possible. With a desktop chip under an IHS that's already halfway taken care of by the IHS itself, so if you've never seen a liquid metal tutorial for a laptop you might have not even known that sealing the LM was important. I'm not making this stuff up, gallium begins to oxidize at 25C and fully oxidizes at 75C[2] (Ga2O3, mass fraction 0.12) which is a totally achievable temperature range. This is not even considering the fact that the other components on the LM can oxidize, and they likely will.
Other interesting things to note:
1. The thermal conductivity of CuGa2 (the principal alloy of gallium and copper) at 20C is 98 W/(m⋅K). Copper's thermal conductivity at 20C is 400 W/(m⋅K).
2. We have no idea what exactly is in LM, the formulations are proprietary - but it's been said that the consistencies of Coolaboratory CLU & grizzly conductonaut are not the same so clearly whatever is in this stuff varies and lead to different results.
3. Simply buffing the residue off the copper heatsink and reapplying the LM might be OK. The GaCu alloy is obviously not as good of a heat conductor as pure copper but it's not clear how deep the gallium will attack. If eventually you keep reapplying LM and the gallium can't penetrate its own pitting then it's effectively self-limiting and you end up with a 'stable' LM application.
These papers are interesting if you want to learn more about the process:
1. www.ipme.ru/e-journals/RAMS/no_81808/grigoryeva.pdf
2. sci-hub.ac/www.scientific.net/DDF.326-328.227
3. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/something-to-think-about-liquid-metal-compatibility-with-copper-heat-sinks.800890/
TL;DR
Liquid metal pastes react with copper heatsinks (aggravated by oxidation and higher temperatures) until the gallium in the paste is totally absorbed by the copper heatsink and you end up in thermal runaway. The damage to the copper is permanent, but if you keep reapplying the LM whenever this happens you may end up with a stable LM application. LM is much more stable when used under the heatspreader of a desktop CPU, since the heatspreader is nickle-plated and way less reactive to the LM.
This is an excerpt of a comment on another video
bobsagget823
shadetree is a weird way to say tunnel bear
If someone's complaint was their phone being hot in their pants, more conductivity between the SoC and chassis will just make the surface feel (and be) even hotter. Though the chip inside would be cooler and boost longer.
Like the people who watercool because their room gets too hot in summer...
Lol, don't tell me that's an actual thing. Way to efficiently make your room warmer lol.
But at least your PC would stay cooler in the summer.
Well don't that just burn your ASS.
3:22 you mean little lego connectors
Zack is my boi
jerry rick
I hate them, because I'm stupid and I forgot to take it off while taking out the keyboard on my laptop.
Boris Bumlord Jerry Rick
I actually did that on my Nexus 5 a while back. I had to use copper shim because there was a gap between the SOC and the chassis, but even so the temp dropped significantly.
I've extended long term cooling performance with double sized battery and home made tinfoil cooling grid in arised free space in cover. It is more like extending heat capacity before overheating, but still it worked.
I love the intro of this video. I actually don't think that Linus is acting. I think this is his actual tech addiction
Don't know why but that explosion at 6:55 scared me... lol
lol me too
You rea't alone.
Tana Mora same!!!
this is why LTT is my fav tech youtuber, did u see any tech youtuber doing experiment like this, most of them sit on the table talk about thing u already know.
Before this video came out I had a old LG G3 and they have problems with over heating and that causing cracks in the soldier after a long period of time.
I baked the mobo in the oven to hopefully help with the phone since I had the bad soldier issue as well. It worked great (for a week)..
Anyways I put some thermal paste on the processor and put a penny over that. Very thin layer but it seemed to help hold the temps idle for a bit.
when for LinusSexTips
Do more tests like over clocking mobile CPU and GPU ,
We love these kind of videos 👍👍
Sunglasses on a geek channel. Someone didn't think that through.
It’s for those who have their monitor brightness maxed out
"you notice something getting kinda hot in your pocket, the idea grows and grows getting more and more solid."
Liquid metal the tunnel bear 🐻
8:26 lol
Andy I wonder what happened to that guy.
3:57 gosh ! I was shocked by that Can destroyed by gallium ! Thanks for showing us visually what it really does to aluminium heatsink
“No performance drop whatsoever!”
Clearly a 2% drop in performance.
2 percent is within margin of error, so yeah, their is no performance drop.
1:40 LOL "Vict... I mean test subject".
In a phone??????????????? #LiquidMetalAllTheThings
liquid metal in a toaster
Toaster in the liquid.
It grows getting more and more solid.
This video is so futuristic, with the futuristic music, metal jellos, even has so many cutting edges technology razers..
Hope it didn't cut tunnel bear D:
NSFW CONTENT
Need For Speed Most Wanted content?
not safe for work content
woosh
Need speed for world
yeah, talking about ugly grills like that, disgusting.
Linus, benchmark with those *Video Cards from Aliexpress*
Man, that intro was gold ^^
One of the coolest projects you guys have ever done.
Go go power rangers.
That's a Black rangers hoodie.
Joshua Howard glad someone else noticed, wish I knew where to get my own :)
Yep thought the same. Wonder where you can get one?
Im glad im not only one who noticed that :D xD
Yes I looked for this comment
8:27 nice
No one's to know xD
craziest liquid metal process ever
Thanks for the idea! I'll try and add a heat sink on my phone(not razer phone). and add thermal paste and liquid metal.
Liquid Metal in a smartwatch? :)
LM as hair gel!
It will fuck up the watch but idk
Not a smartwatch but www.tokyoflash.com/en/watch-museum/liquid-metal-watch-black
The clock might run faster hahaha.
Liquid metal in a nintendo switch
0:21 ok?
0:25 ummmm
0:29 *CHILL LINUS*
0:31 oh nvm
linus sex tips
Get real, understand comedy and get a life..
might try a similar thing on my old note 3 with some ic diamond or thermaltake tg-7
Between this, your laptop application, and a few reviews and rundowns, it looks like the rule of thumb is: If the device doesn't have great cooling to begin with, liquid metal is hugely beneficial; otherwise, stick with less risky conventional pastes.
I thought the sponsor was I fix it lol
Is that liquid metal in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Delighted to see the word "pop", and not "soda".
Well done.
I'm glad that this channel is self-aware.
The next logical step to cool with liquid metal would be game consoles
May I recommend the Nintendo switch
I would like to recommend the PS4 because the base models (not slim or Pro) run extremely hot but you know the whole aluminum heat-sink thing😢
Or just get a pc and get out more in the REAL world!!
Sebastian Hakansson you seem to miss the point
Doubt Linus even knows where to get console.
Well I have a PC and want a PS4, those exclusives are sick. Console/PC wars and fanboys should just disappear altogether.
Mishobu join the glorious gaming race
Liquid metal on a laptop = stupidity level 40%
Liquid metal on a 800$ Razer PHONE! - stupidity level 100+%
wait untill linus does liquid metal on the apple watch. 10,000% stupidity
Liquid metal on a nintendo switch?
Liquid metal on a laptop is actually very smart. At least gives you an idea. Thermal paste on older laptops is none existant. While everyone might not do thermal grizzly swap, but like arctic silver 5 made it run cooler than a pc
Benjamin the laptop was 3000$
Stupidity level - 164.3529472%!
I will do this to my old s4 mini just to see if it wull make a difference
This would really work on all devices. All you need to do is add a hard foam as an insulator so it would not spill even thou you keep moving around 🤷🏻♂️
It says November 3 on the phone during boot! Damn almost 5 months later this video comes out; how long is the video backlog?
They have stacks of video that they pick from kinda randomly, which is why they can get a video out every day.
So my $2 thermal paste will do?
His ads are the only ads that I watch completely..Sometimes I even wait for his advertising :p
3:50 Yes Linus thank you for specifying it, I thought you were lifting the copper heat spreader in a smartphone with a Razor Blade Laptop
He could have used the razor blade as a heat spreader in the Razer phone! A Razor Razer!
no way
Silencio yes way
maybe way?
Norway!
José
my way or the highway!
I wonder if Linus catches a cold and has a fever, will he use liquid metal to cool it off?
6:53 actually spooked me when I first saw it.
Regular thermal paste works as well, I did it to my g3 back in the day, it did work but the frame did heat up more....it has to go somewhere.
Linus 2018: we liquid metal phones.
Linus 2019: we have watercooling now....
These huge performance gains on everything really makes you wonder why manufactures don't design their products to use stuff like this. It couldn't add that much to the cost of an item to use good thermal paste.
Shit goes wrong. If you short circuit that could be dangerous. If failure rate becomes too high you've just destroyed your reputation.
That could be designed to be avoided. Even going as far as a gasket seal around the CPU if needed. It seems like even if the manufactures didn't want to max out performance they could use it to cut back on the heatsink size because it would be better utilized allowing smaller or lighter designes.
If you max out everything from the getgo there's no room for improvement, so there's no reason to make a better version, missing out a lot of money.
+ if you make a product that will cost you more to produce, it will cost the costumer more to purchase it aswell, its all about finding that balance between overpriced trash and decent enough quality for a fair price.
The average user probably isn't going to notice, so it's not worth using. I mean, realize, most people buying a laptop or phone or whatever aren't using it for gaming. They're using them as expensive Facebook or Netflix machines or maybe to run a word processor. This stuff is in the neighborhood of 30-40 bucks a tube and manufacturers just aren't going to spring for it when most of their customers won't care. Maybe for high-end gaming laptops I could see it, but not for what most people are buying.
Liquid metal also doesn't last as long as traditional thermal paste. A machine using liquid metal is likely to need it replaced multiple times within its working lifespan, which isn't a big deal for the technically-inclined who built their computers from scratch anyway, but would be a major problem for the typical consumer, as well as a logistical problem for the manufacturer who would have to provide such a service
really wanted you guys to take 5 or even 10 benchmarks in one go to really hit the liquid metal
"you only need a little bit of this stuff to do the trick" *immediately cut to shot of WAY TOO MUCH*
now you have to figure out how to water cool your razer phone
Michael D if the phones had graphics chips in it with at least 2gbs of graphics power
What is the background song? Sounds really cool!
thijsdeweerd96 I also want to know that. Maybe someone here knows the name of the song.
The beginning add is good i always wear sunglasses while i game it help with performance!!!
I did this to my wii an got it oc'd to like 3.1 ghz it was able to play wii u games at this point . i recommend this product alot .
Yes. Cause you know what? Who cares if it's conductive liquid, my phone obviously needs this!
Probably why Linus himself doesn't recommend doing it.
I don't think I've ever had to worry about termites in my sunglasses , or catching splinters from them .
Then I'd say it's about time.
No thanks, im 1.70, so i dont need it
Mine ethereum, crush PC gamer's dreams.
Bibasik7 your profile pic made me think my laptop had a strand of hair on it
🤣🤣😂😁 amazing expressions in d beginning.. awesome 👍
That explosion scared the sh*t out of me through my car speakers haha!
Linus are you ok?
MDP_Toaster All the metal fumes are getting to his brain lol
Liquid metal cool the switch
Liquid metal cool a car
Because these stupid ideas I subscribed. Very entertaining and somehow informative. Great job.
Great idea Linus! Maybe these mobile maker will take you research to help make better temp phones!