I really learned something that I never thought about and I started bowling 60 years ago when I was 9. I didn’t know about the cross over steps. Then again I never took lessons. I managed to be a 190 plus league bowler in my hay day. Now I will have to get out on the lanes and practice my approach. I’m a big fan of you guys. Thank you for the tips.
Brad & Kyle...you two really pay attention to detail in your videos....that's what makes them so good. Not only that but your analysis is superb. Keep up the good work.
There are a lot of blogs and sites where people complain about the poor and declining state of bowling. It is nice to see that you guys are giving back in a way that will help bowlers enjoy the game more, bowl more and hopefully introduce their friends to the sport. Good stuff, you guys are killing it. Keep up the good work!
It's been 50 years since I last bowled but am thinking about starting again. I had the idea that there were just two approaches - the 3 step and the 5 step. But you guys have made me Google about approaches and I don't see anything about a 3 step approach. Well, this is the time for me to learn the approach correctly. Glad you guys brought it to my attention. And I never gave thought to getting my right hip out of the way. No wonder why I rarely broke 100 - my ball was never released in a straight line.
This tutorial alone has improved my average..... simply because of how you show each step. I used to drift a lot and I was never consistent. I've followed your advice and have seen a vast improvement in my average and footwork...thank you!
Many thanks, been searching for "how much should i spend on a bowling ball?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Piylivern Remarkable Predominance - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to up your bowling game quickly minus the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my colleague got excellent results with it.
This was very enlightening. As someone who never had a bowling lesson, just wings it when you go occasionally, it was nice to learn about the hips and taking shorter steps and keeping your momentum forward. Perhaps I should get a proper lesson.
Hey boys! I really enjoy you both and will say Hi, during the masters. Timing is my big pet peeve. Too many including some pros, start their back swing way late. Instead of their hips opening as the push out leg becomes the trailing leg, they are stepping forward again with the push out leg, just as the ball is in the back swing. The ball will need to loop around a sq pair of hips. These bowlers all have a hard time staying on line. They decelerate on the approach when we should be accelerating, during the last step. Good luck, thanks for all the content. C ya at masters and may the 6's trip for ya.
I would say no, for the fact that now you've eliminated all the momentum of your approach. Basically made the approach irrelevant. I'm not a pro by any means but that's my opinion.
This is what i'm trying to work on. When I film myself my feet are spread apart and I think my plant (left) is coming around the hip. I have a tremendous amount of leg pain when i bowl now and I suppose it's from my approach.
thanks! No wonder I sometimes end up wide open while trying to bowl up the boards. My 3rd step is too far left and my slide foot goes way right. I will practice footwork until I get it right. That's like 1000 times?
Hey guys, I love your videos and have been watching them at nearly every free moment for the last week or so. It's really encouraging me to get back into the sport. I haven't bowled competitively since I was 18, now 42. It's also been a few years since I've been on the lanes. I know this is an older video but I felt it would be best to stay on topic. I don't know if it's worthy of an entire video but how important is the 'slide?' I have had a problem my entire life with stomping that last step and can't seem to get myself to actually slide it. Any pointers??
I have a problem of raising up at the foul line causing me to drop the ball early and losing speed and consistancy. I am a 211 average bowler so what are some things that I should look for in my approach to stay down at the foul line?
Hey guys, I am loving your tip videos, and glad you guys can give back.. My only question is my slide foot even though not all the time ends up pointing the wrong way. I have tried to work on this. By doing the one step drill and watching tape on seeing why i am doing this. I cant figure out why it ends up that way. If you guys have any feedback on any tricks or drills i can work on to help fix that would be awesome. Thank you guys.
Darrin Lindsey it points left towards the left gutter. When i watch the video its my my last step i tend for some reason to step left and im guessing thats what causing my foot to point that way. But im not sure how to fix it since its straight all the way to that point.
Darrin Lindsey that could be, i was talking with an another bowling I bowl against. He suggesting that i maybe to taking too long of a step on my last 2 steps causing me to step left. Since i take pretty small steps on my first 2 steps
Darrin Lindsey yeah hes seen me bowl more on tournaments then anyone and i trust. So figured i would give him a call. He wanted me to try to start further back and take longer steps to start with maybe shorten my last step so i am not over steping the last step
Darrin Lindsey alright i will try to work on strengtening my calf and knee more and see how that goes and maybe kinda focus to see if i can keep my leg underneath more by focusing on it more maybe see if just a misstep.
After some 30 year away from the sport I'm relearning the game and I'd also like to see a video combining the steps and arm swing. I'm trying to develop a higher arm swing then when I bowled before. I'm confused at the timing. No I'm not going nuts just want to get ball shoulder high, and never did years ago.
I think the key is to correct only something if it is causing errors in your game. If things come natural to you and do not cause issues, stick to it. We are not all robots who have the same exact movements. I used to be a hitting instructor in baseball, and I would never suggest a mechanical change if the player was doing something unorthodox unless it was affecting performance negatively. The same goes for pitchers, and this applies to bowlers as well. If we all copied the exact same mechanics, we would all look exactly the same.
So... I'm a right handed bowler with a right slide foot. Like... I'm a left handed writer and slide on my right foot when bowling with my right hand pumping the power. My question is... How am I supposed to be able to pump out 15 mph with a 15 pound ball? If not just 14 mph... I do that and with high track flare+ a 6 inch positive pap. The other direction would be 1 1/2 left or right... But I track on the left side of my hand and very close to the finger tip grips/thumb hole. 90% or more people always tell me I'm sliding on the wrong foot for my right handed style! But I do start on my right foot in the approach... I'm sure I do anyway! But a lot of people say that my style is inefficient based on my slide foot and not being able to use my full body. Not to mention I start the ball around my knee and my back swing isn't too high either. Like... I don't hold the bowl with both hands at the start... I use one! And pull it back from there at that. I'm 155 pounds, 28 and 172 cm tall. Barely exercise outside of work and bowling. What could I do to make things better? 189 and 189 and 195 sanctioned averages. Not to mention I have a few high end cover stocks that are used and playable on the current high friction house shot as well... They're drilled around 90*4*10 (Trident Abyss) , 120*4*30 (Alpha Jackal) and 65~*5*45~ Venator Evolution Hybrid. No polish. Not too dull.
Wow, I never realized how short the steps should be. At least during the demo, his feet are literally heel to toe. Maybe that's why my amateur hips feel so sore cause I have no form. I bowled 8 strings and the next day could not walk. I waited 5 days to bowl again and its agonizing. I clearly am putting way too much torque on my left hip with my crappy form. Maybe a slide would help me.
This! I always here or read free armswing but my backswing is not even close to shoulder height. How are so many getting the ball above shoulder height without some muscling of the ball?
Nokia: Here is a great video on just that subject as well as a lot of other good info. So DO IT! th-cam.com/video/QOFyicnaiYw/w-d-xo.html Also if you have free swing like you probably should, the ball at push away will go to about the same height in the BS + what you add by your forward lean.
I have the same problem. There is a drill you can do with blue painters tape. You want to put the tape on the approach in front of left foot if you are right handed and just put your right foot on the tape. This will build muscle memory. This video will give you a better explanation. th-cam.com/video/VpP9c36ogiQ/w-d-xo.html
Came here to rant about my friend. We just went bowling today and somehow he had the most awful bowling form I’ve ever seen. It starts with him walking up to the line, Full Stop, swinging the ball above his head and over his left shoulder, and then back down his torso and around his back, then dropping the ball straight into the gutter. It was a lot of fun though
Same thing, hips slightly open, use your shoulders to aim, start with your left foot and don't force anything. Keep the momentum up and control the feet. If you want more speed to get the ball further down the lane, then quicken your steps but keep everything controlled.
I think would of been better If the video matched had the thumbnail. Some acutel examples with a ball. Other than that there wasn't any real information.
I really learned something that I never thought about and I started bowling 60 years ago when I was 9. I didn’t know about the cross over steps. Then again I never took lessons. I managed to be a 190 plus league bowler in my hay day. Now I will have to get out on the lanes and practice my approach. I’m a big fan of you guys. Thank you for the tips.
Brad & Kyle...you two really pay attention to detail in your videos....that's what makes them so good. Not only that but your analysis is superb. Keep up the good work.
There are a lot of blogs and sites where people complain about the poor and declining state of bowling. It is nice to see that you guys are giving back in a way that will help bowlers enjoy the game more, bowl more and hopefully introduce their friends to the sport.
Good stuff, you guys are killing it. Keep up the good work!
It's been 50 years since I last bowled but am thinking about starting again. I had the idea that there were just two approaches - the 3 step and the 5 step. But you guys have made me Google about approaches and I don't see anything about a 3 step approach. Well, this is the time for me to learn the approach correctly. Glad you guys brought it to my attention. And I never gave thought to getting my right hip out of the way. No wonder why I rarely broke 100 - my ball was never released in a straight line.
This tutorial alone has improved my average..... simply because of how you show each step. I used to drift a lot and I was never consistent. I've followed your advice and have seen a vast improvement in my average and footwork...thank you!
Many thanks, been searching for "how much should i spend on a bowling ball?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Piylivern Remarkable Predominance - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to up your bowling game quickly minus the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my colleague got excellent results with it.
You two are very good explaining the fundamentals of the game...i am a three stepper can you show the difference...keep up the good work
SO glad to find this. The step by step how to is awesome. Thanks
Started improvement and consistency and improvement this month. This is super helpful. Thank you!
You should do a video on the finish position in bowling
Just as important
This was very enlightening. As someone who never had a bowling lesson, just wings it when you go occasionally, it was nice to learn about the hips and taking shorter steps and keeping your momentum forward. Perhaps I should get a proper lesson.
I just wanna say I’ve learned a lot from watching you two. I wanna sub to the subscription but I can’t afford the extra money. Please keep these going
Usually whenever I “rush to the line”, my feet open up and that is when I start pulling the ball
On which step in a 4 should you go into your backswing, your left foot or right
I so far I got 130 high score and I have made two strikes so far, I need to improve more on being like a professional.
It all involves practice i dont get to practice i only bowl once a week so im not really good but how are you doing on it now
130? Me only 90+
Hey boys! I really enjoy you both and will say Hi, during the masters. Timing is my big pet peeve. Too many including some pros, start their back swing way late. Instead of their hips opening as the push out leg becomes the trailing leg, they are stepping forward again with the push out leg, just as the ball is in the back swing. The ball will need to loop around a sq pair of hips. These bowlers all have a hard time staying on line. They decelerate on the approach when we should be accelerating, during the last step. Good luck, thanks for all the content. C ya at masters and may the 6's trip for ya.
It would really help with you should the whole movement
Is it valid to just stop at the foul line and swing your arm 3-4 times before delivery?
I would say no, for the fact that now you've eliminated all the momentum of your approach. Basically made the approach irrelevant. I'm not a pro by any means but that's my opinion.
This is what i'm trying to work on. When I film myself my feet are spread apart and I think my plant (left) is coming around the hip. I have a tremendous amount of leg pain when i bowl now and I suppose it's from my approach.
thanks! No wonder I sometimes end up wide open while trying to bowl up the boards. My 3rd step is too far left and my slide foot goes way right. I will practice footwork until I get it right. That's like 1000 times?
How heavy is that ball? I struggle to bring it back like that. Please advise. Thank you😉
It might not just be the weight , the finger holes may be too small of big for you
I prefer a three step approach, is that legal ?
david mays that is most definitely legal. Anything that finishes you behind the line is legal.
@@TheVlad1616thank you.
Hey guys, I love your videos and have been watching them at nearly every free moment for the last week or so. It's really encouraging me to get back into the sport. I haven't bowled competitively since I was 18, now 42. It's also been a few years since I've been on the lanes.
I know this is an older video but I felt it would be best to stay on topic. I don't know if it's worthy of an entire video but how important is the 'slide?' I have had a problem my entire life with stomping that last step and can't seem to get myself to actually slide it. Any pointers??
I have an 8 step approach if that makes any sense i know it may sound weird but thats just how i bowl and i manage to make it work
Do you start at the first set of dots
May I suggest at least including the full approaches of both Brad and Kyle as a demonstration of the constants of each?
I have a problem of raising up at the foul line causing me to drop the ball early and losing speed and consistancy. I am a 211 average bowler so what are some things that I should look for in my approach to stay down at the foul line?
I bowl 2-handed and always read to catch my heel too much, any suggestions on how to fix that?
Hey guys, I am loving your tip videos, and glad you guys can give back.. My only question is my slide foot even though not all the time ends up pointing the wrong way. I have tried to work on this. By doing the one step drill and watching tape on seeing why i am doing this. I cant figure out why it ends up that way. If you guys have any feedback on any tricks or drills i can work on to help fix that would be awesome. Thank you guys.
Darrin Lindsey it points left towards the left gutter. When i watch the video its my my last step i tend for some reason to step left and im guessing thats what causing my foot to point that way. But im not sure how to fix it since its straight all the way to that point.
Darrin Lindsey that could be, i was talking with an another bowling I bowl against. He suggesting that i maybe to taking too long of a step on my last 2 steps causing me to step left. Since i take pretty small steps on my first 2 steps
Darrin Lindsey yeah hes seen me bowl more on tournaments then anyone and i trust. So figured i would give him a call. He wanted me to try to start further back and take longer steps to start with maybe shorten my last step so i am not over steping the last step
Darrin Lindsey alright i will try to work on strengtening my calf and knee more and see how that goes and maybe kinda focus to see if i can keep my leg underneath more by focusing on it more maybe see if just a misstep.
Nice video! Will there be a video on the steps combined with the armswing? would be cool :)
After some 30 year away from the sport I'm relearning the game and I'd also like to see a video combining the steps and arm swing. I'm trying to develop a higher arm swing then when I bowled before. I'm confused at the timing. No I'm not going nuts just want to get ball shoulder high, and never did years ago.
Don’t to handers have to put there 3 step out to the right instead of in front of them to open there angels like Jason Belmonte?
My awkward issue is timing the exact distance for the steps before hitting the lane
First step is same foot as ball side and that's the crossover?
I think the key is to correct only something if it is causing errors in your game.
If things come natural to you and do not cause issues, stick to it.
We are not all robots who have the same exact movements.
I used to be a hitting instructor in baseball, and I would never suggest a mechanical change if the player was doing something unorthodox unless it was affecting performance negatively. The same goes for pitchers, and this applies to bowlers as well.
If we all copied the exact same mechanics, we would all look exactly the same.
can you make a video to teach us how to rotate the ball from the inside. What should you feel at the bottom of the swing.
much love
Why doesn't the angle of the approach follow the angle of the shot
So... I'm a right handed bowler with a right slide foot. Like... I'm a left handed writer and slide on my right foot when bowling with my right hand pumping the power.
My question is... How am I supposed to be able to pump out 15 mph with a 15 pound ball? If not just 14 mph... I do that and with high track flare+ a 6 inch positive pap. The other direction would be 1 1/2 left or right... But I track on the left side of my hand and very close to the finger tip grips/thumb hole.
90% or more people always tell me I'm sliding on the wrong foot for my right handed style! But I do start on my right foot in the approach... I'm sure I do anyway! But a lot of people say that my style is inefficient based on my slide foot and not being able to use my full body. Not to mention I start the ball around my knee and my back swing isn't too high either. Like... I don't hold the bowl with both hands at the start... I use one! And pull it back from there at that.
I'm 155 pounds, 28 and 172 cm tall. Barely exercise outside of work and bowling.
What could I do to make things better? 189 and 189 and 195 sanctioned averages.
Not to mention I have a few high end cover stocks that are used and playable on the current high friction house shot as well... They're drilled around 90*4*10 (Trident Abyss) , 120*4*30 (Alpha Jackal) and 65~*5*45~ Venator Evolution Hybrid. No polish. Not too dull.
This may be one of THE WORST and most painful 5:02 of my entire life. Thanks Brad and Kyle.
Wow, I never realized how short the steps should be. At least during the demo, his feet are literally heel to toe. Maybe that's why my amateur hips feel so sore cause I have no form. I bowled 8 strings and the next day could not walk. I waited 5 days to bowl again and its agonizing. I clearly am putting way too much torque on my left hip with my crappy form. Maybe a slide would help me.
please explain more and invite more expression
So you’re telling me that I’m all messed up!
I have low back swing. How can I get higher.. my swing is about hip high..
This! I always here or read free armswing but my backswing is not even close to shoulder height. How are so many getting the ball above shoulder height without some muscling of the ball?
Start the ball higher before your swing
Nokia: Here is a great video on just that subject as well as a lot of other good info. So DO IT! th-cam.com/video/QOFyicnaiYw/w-d-xo.html
Also if you have free swing like you probably should, the ball at push away will go to about the same height in the BS + what you add by your forward lean.
I think I saw Jason Belmonte go left and then go right.
I'm scared to get an approach.
my middle school coaches teach a 5 step and makes us stand on 20.. ive been bowling for 2 years and i stand around 15 and do a 4 step lol
5 step is if u need it I also do a 4 step
small steps?
Crossover steps are hard for me to do. I need to work on that
You looks beautiful Becky
Gipsy Danger :)
I have the same problem. There is a drill you can do with blue painters tape. You want to put the tape on the approach in front of left foot if you are right handed and just put your right foot on the tape. This will build muscle memory. This video will give you a better explanation. th-cam.com/video/VpP9c36ogiQ/w-d-xo.html
Andrew Austin thanks. I’ll try it
You are welcome. This is one of the most important things to master.
Came here to rant about my friend. We just went bowling today and somehow he had the most awful bowling form I’ve ever seen.
It starts with him walking up to the line, Full Stop, swinging the ball above his head and over his left shoulder, and then back down his torso and around his back, then dropping the ball straight into the gutter.
It was a lot of fun though
i bowl like doing a basketball layup with low realease
hey gentleman, could you teach a two handed approach?
Same thing, hips slightly open, use your shoulders to aim, start with your left foot and don't force anything. Keep the momentum up and control the feet. If you want more speed to get the ball further down the lane, then quicken your steps but keep everything controlled.
i like how your thumbnail is the most advanced bowling position posible.... tight.
I can not wait to go bowling again now!
Me definitely not doing research for my softball team bonding activity-
Is this a green screen?
I think would of been better If the video matched had the thumbnail. Some acutel examples with a ball. Other than that there wasn't any real information.
I agree man. They need some help with editing
How to bowl
IS THE BEST
Thank’s guy
This is useless without first having a lesson on how to tie your shoe laces. Or did I miss that one?
I take 3 steps
they say it! If you do it natural, steps are not so important, but the world wide training Standard, for the others, are 5 or 4 step's!
I search for cricket bowling and then this come up
Lastima que fueran en español
I have spent weeks investigating the subject and found a great resource at Berts bowls guide (google it if you're interested)
Hi classmates
uhhhh. I do a 3 step approach
people do many different steps. i do a 4 step and my friend does a 6 step lol
What's the point of showing the five steps if you aren't going to show how they're applied, at least once? Wow.
AM I LEARNING TO BOWL OR HOW TO PASS A FIELD SOBRIETY TEST?
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日本語じやないと、わからないです❗
I pray this is a parody
Umm your intro looks like Corona virus.
Superb ? Where hahahhaha
That not turn
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