Interviews: Mr Kaul on the Indian action in the Portuguese territory of Goa; Dr Noggarrah, Portuguese Foreign Minister on the Portuguese position. India invades the Portuguese colony of Goa. Date: 18/12/1961
My father MR. ROSARINHO BRAGANZA, was a freedom fighter. I am proud of him. He worked hard to get Goa liberated. God bless him and all freedom fighters of our nation.
@@Chapadaria Like Britain, Portugal has lost its colonies, and today it is nothing compared to India. Even India's GDP is about close to $3 trillion and will increase, than a pathetic $237 billion GDP of Portugal, and expected to go lower in the coming years. Basically, today you will have to deal with shitholes in your neighborhoods from Islamic nations close to your borders from the south. You even lost Macau to China. While India produces a variety of products in innumerable fields, the best Portugal could produce was Ronaldo (good man, I am sure, but that is all). Nothing more. In the next 50 years. Portugal will be a limited in its influence, while India now and then, will be making and gaining influence with some big players. I understand it is very hard for you to comprehend these short facts, but its the sad truth. Portugal is finished.
@I'm more than a human lmfao why not, he is a pandit that's his identity. He's an Indian first but a pandit too. I'm a kashmiri pandit and a proud indian
We are proud of you Pandit Triloki Nath Kaul. India has not forgotten Kashmir Pandits nor will India ever. India will make sure that the day soon arrives when Kashmiri Pandits will return to their homeland with pride and dignity.
@bat wayne There have been 9 mass migrations of Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir since the dawn of Indian civilization. One of these mass migrations in the 1600's played a significant role in the eventual militarization of a community founded by Guru Nanak and profoundly affected the development of a major world religion and its ethos. Kashmir is a valley that was originally an alpine lake with the name of Satisar. Many central asians and so called Kashmiris of Persian and Turkic origin have no knowledge of Kashmir's history prior to 1000 AD, the start to their ugly invasions and profoundly vile occupation. Names like Gillani, Hamdani, Bukhari, Jeelani and Zargar are non-Kashmiri names, and these names are themselves a testament to their place of origin (outside of Kashmir). Many of those claiming 'India' as the occupier are themselves occupiers and non-Kashmiris. The memory and the bond created between Kashmir and Bharat is ancient, civilizational, irrevocable, and ultimately, unbreakable.
No different than the cunning pro-western anti-india racist reporters from UK, USA, Canada, Europe and Aus/NZ who expect India to follow Gandhism and Non-violence even when she is attacked by a foreign power and these white supremacists want India to support all their selfish western agenda. They were and still are trying to dumb down the entire world with their cunning narratives for initiating their agendas. 🔷 🇮🇳
i wish they didnt cut the part where reporter was asked what would he do? astonishing how lack of persepctive is plaguing public place inspite of all technology avalaible
But the point of a journalist is precisely to ask difficult questions. No doubt I don't agree with him, but that's his job, to not suck up to his guests.
the most difficult questions are those about ourselves. thats why nobody wants to ask them. no wonder that reporter kinda forgot what colonial force was england, maybe he was just ignorant@@academicsanonymous2770
As an American, I am amused at why are Indians and Portuguese fighting on TH-cam? This happened 50 years go, right? It was all very simple. India picked up its sword, Portuguese troops in Goa cried and begged not to die, India agreed and shipped most of them back to Portugal unharmed. Then the Portuguese fascist government under the dictator Salazar was discredited and severely weakened only to completely collapse a decade later. So, Portuguese you should be grateful to India. They helped you defeat your own corrupt brutal dictator Salazar who came to realize that India is one country he cannot bully.
punit p Looking back at History with modern morality's eyes its kind of...not smart?Besides,being in a place,any place,for more than 500 years,kind of makes it feel like Home,right.How old is the modern USA,how old is modern Germany or Russia or...India?
CupRunethOver I can see that you are another ignorant american! By the way, the portuguese troops in Goa were only 3000, and we weapeanry from the second world war. with no air force and navy to suport them. Against 40 000 strong and well equiped indians with air force and navy. The Indians had the obligation to win. Besides, the portuguese troops never though at all. Only some soldiers. Because if they did, probably they would have caused great casualties to indians. Maybe half the indian army could be Destroyed!
12ze34 As an American I can say I would have no say in this dispute and you are right. America is like 200 years old. Ripples in the pond of time when compared to 450 years rule in Goa. It's very easy for some fucktard to come on and just say "well that was 50 years ago, get over it." We here in the U.S. do not share a history of being occupied by a an outside force. I'm sure in the case of Goa's occupation there's a lot blood that was shed that echo's through history.
Michael Iravani As a matter of fact,you do "share a history of being occupied by an outside force",they were called "the British",latter on known as "Americans"...at least this was told by an "Indian" to me. ;)
@@FalconAviationChannel Lmao bruh. Why are you spamming about giving goa to Portugal. Firstly, you are the one actually living in Mediaeval Ages, still thinking of colonialism. Secondly, India was the golden bird, contributing more than 36% of world's gdp. It was the European colonists who destroyed our culture, heritage, knowledge and wealth. And Portugal was also one of them. Hope you will realise the truth and respect India.
@@FalconAviationChannel YES, it is because of colonists. Looting India and using its resources abroad. And if you want to justify this, I don't have anything to say. www.jstor.org/stable/44147226?seq=1 Please first increase your knowledge and then talk about India's poverty.
@@FalconAviationChannel that’s funny. Europeans lived in the Stone Age longer than any other group of people on Earth. The Chinese, Indians and Middle Easterners all independently discovered agriculture and independently created the first civilizations while Europeans were still living as Hunter Gatherers in caves and jungles, a Stone Age existence. What’s more, India and China were the richest economies in the world for thousands of years, when Portugal was a mere backwater of Europe, which was a backwater itself at the time, full of poverty and starving, illiterate peasants without adequate food and clean water. It was only the colonial loot of Asia and the New World that, combined with the imperialism of the British and French and their subsequent developments of the Industrial revolution (thanks largely to Science and technology from China, India, the Middle East and elsewhere) that Portugal and the rest of Europe even became relevant and richer than they used to be. You are only relatively prosperous because of loot and thievery, don’t be so proud of something so shameful. Your ignorance and prose speak volumes about your intelligence and character.
Exactly my very first thought upon seeing this video. And a stark contrast to where India is as a nation with their leadership now, one can only imagine any of our politicians ever measuring up to such levels of statesmanship
@@icemax7 You must be mentally handicapped to think that Indian diplomacy in the 50s and 60s was better than it is in 2023. Do you even understand how terrible Krishna Menon was at dealing with the world, especially the US? They used to provide us with wheat and other crops when we were literally starving, and we used to thank them back with passionate speeches in the UN by Krishna Menon as to how terrible the US is. They were literally saving us from starvation, and we were demonizing them in return. That is not good foreign policy lmao. Just because you have a posh British accent doesn't mean you're a good diplomat retard. Indian diplomacy is at it's peak right now, with everyone wanting to invest in our country. But coolies like you will always crave for the "good old days" when you used to be a dogshit insignificant country ruled by coconuts with posh English accents, who would spit on your ugly Indian face for being an Indian. Tell me something, do coolies like you have some shared humiliation kink or something? Why do you crave for the days when being an Indian used to be a humiliating thing?
@@icemax7 he was the chief of general staff of Indian army in 1962 replacing Thimmaya who was a battle hardened general, and he is a favorite of Nehru and Menon. After the defeat, he was sacked and Manekshaw was appointed to that position, to consolidate our north east defenses.
Such erudition much wow. Yet, not a one of the myriad foreign policy problems that have plagued India since her independence was deftly handled by either Triloki Nath Kaul or any one of his erudite peers
Remember Sri Lanka and the USSR supported India at the United Nations General Assembly while other countries, including Portugal, the US and the UK were against India. My great granduncle Prof. Gunapala Malalasekera was the ambassador to the United Nations representing the Dominion of Ceylon(now Sri Lanka) then. *[EDIT]* 16.11.2023- I noticed that I've typed it as "Sri Lanka and Russia". It wasn't Russia, but the USSR, which was made out of 15 SSRs, Russian SFSR was only one of them. Also corrected some grammatical errors.
@@halohaalo2583 So... What is the problem with that? India also helped LTTE until Rajiv's assassination. Still there are small groups in Tamil Nadu which are trying to make a new Dravidian country from Tamil Nadu and North, East Sri Lanka.
Yes, I may remind you that both Britain & Portugal have terrorized India when occupied the Sub Continent for there stealing and robbing activities. Jai Hind, jay Goa.
Lol go and read about him how he was the dummy of soviets ,how supposedly was honey trapped by a Chinese girl One single search on Google will direct you there Being born in affluent family and speaking good English doesn't amount to intelligence
@@sarahmughal2164 WE HAVE THE FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY. WE SHOULD SIMPLY BUY ALL OF PORTUGAL AND START USING PORTIGAL AS A GARBAGE DUMP FOR INDIA'S TRASH.
Many people in the comments section are appreciative of Mr Kaul’s accent. Apart from accent , the greatest part is he kept is composure and was able to point out exact dates on his answers without losing his cool.
@@mrhellaboy I sailed on INS Betwa to Andaman and then onwards to Malaysia, i think it was 1982, when I was one of 6 NCC cadets who were selected in the Annual NCC republic day camp. It was so exciting. Brahmaputra was the other ship with us.
Only ONE temple is alive.. That is tamdi surla mahadev temple.. And they say their saint xavier did some magic and ppl willingly converted to Christianity.. Lol.. Don't fool us..
@@theawkwardcurrypot9556 Hindu is the identity given by foreigners but the real name is Sanatan Dharma which we follow and with rise of our our civilization it was our religion which we practiced
@@farben_ thats false..portuguese have the best accent indeed..read about it. Portuguese peopleuse to make fun about spanish and french people speaking english
@@ramprasadrai4101 yes you are absolutely right, Indians seem obsessed with English and English accents, just goes to show that India may be freed from the English but their minds are still colonized. There are literally hundreds of videos on you tube where I see Indians constantly asking Americans and others what they think/know of India? Who cares what someone else thinks of your accent and your country, Keep working hard and prove yourself. Ultimately that is what matters. God bless all!
Ls Vijay you may want to enlighten the rest of us your idea of what a s*** language is and your list of s*** and nons*** languages; if not we appreciate your comic touch here:)
@@tolykozin1 Probably because Indians speaking English seems so horrible on any non Indian's ears. So listening to an Indian speaking English softly is a pleasant surprise.
@@ramprasadrai4101 He was born in Akalgarh so he probably spoke hindi with a Punjabi accent.. but then, Hindi speakers think ALL Indians should speak Hindi and you are even trying to force Hindi onto the South Indians. Be warned: West Pakistan wanted to impose Urdu onto East Pakistan.. and we all know what happened next..
Roman language......based on Sanskrit. Queen spoke a different language altogether. In our schooling English is still the first language as it acts as a global connection. The British people used to speak Latin. That's why your last rites are done using Latin language but that's limited to elites only now. Romans created English language. Remember this. Tell your friends too. The funny part is English grammar is almost entirely picked from that of Sanskrit.
" Anyways the Portuguese and British dont have that kind of muscle anymore " The European countries are getting chased down by the Russians and Chinese governments power and influence .
Mr. Kaul was an astute bureaucrat and he could beat the illogical argument for continuing Colonialism with a cleverly crafted reply. I enjoyed the video immensely.
"Oxford University held an academic consensus calling the occupation of East Timor a genocide and Yale University teaches it as part of its Genocide Studies program"
Excellent .... Hats off to Mr.Kaul ... austerity, Clarity, courage, diplomacy all sparkle in his speech... India has indeed produced great statesman like Mr. Kaul... Its because of these great men, India is what it is today ... These heroes need to be celebrated.
I feel bad for Kashmir Pandits. They are such gems and loved India with heart. Sad to see that now Kashmir is represented by converted people who hate India to core. Much worse, these converts have driven out all the Pandits from Kashmir stripping them of residence.
@@jayantjha3128 we crying? No who is crying is the people from Goa, Daman and Diu...that never had the chance to choose...what a democratic country India is...
@@ljlj8155 lmao theres no freedom struggle in goa and daman and diu and they are some of the most patriotic Indians out there. How do I know? I have been there
@@jayantjha3128 well what I know is that many many tens of thousands of Goan people ( etcnily indians) Left the territory as refugees after the invasion in 1961 and moved to Mozambique and to Portugal, and today many of them are prominent rich families. What I know is that the current Goan people keep the portuguese first name and sure name, and keep the portuguese traditions and culture as the Catholic religion, language and songs etc . They Also keep the portuguese name of the streets. It was 450 years of presence, and it was at least since the last 2 centuries a peaceful cohabitation- Goa the Rome of the Indic. If the majority preferes to be independent, Indians or portuguese only a referendum can prove it. Not just a nationalist opinion. That is what a democracy does. So if there are no doubts, And if India dominates the territory since 60 why is there any afraid to make a referendum? You know that Mumbai was offered as gift to the portuguese King by a Majará? Don’t compare the portuguese with the brits. Difference history. The funny fact is that Goa is one of the most richest state of India...that’s maybe the main reason because India has invaded and conquered by arms...not because you we’re against colonialism- that I Am too- economics as usual... Portugal had a minor force in Goa...just a few mans in infantry...india camed with planes, tanks, and an army 20X bigger...cause the portuguese army was aggressive... 😂...Portugal was very aggressive just by being in Goa since 1500... Anti colonialism propaganda by totalariam regimes ...I supposed that Mr. Gandhi was against wars and oppression...
@@Rogeraj Has he? I only knew about his role in India's humiliating defeat in 1962. Would you please elaborate. PS: He was a General solely because he had political connections and not due to his competence.
@@Rogeraj Not him; it is the conduct of his cook that is suspect. He may have participated in the eventual cover-up, but he was only a diplomat heeding the orders of the political executive.
Many indian think, Goa is Cristinity places. If knows about Goan history will better to understand about hindusium place who looted Goa and converted forcefully and badly treated to become Christan.
Honestly lots of respect to the founding Indian administration. It was a monumental task to maintain our sovereignty and establish the Indian state in the age of imperialism.
@@br3menPT the bravery of Pakistan is reflected in the form of Bangladesh on global map...and by the way you said in one of your comments that Goa was Portuguese colony for some 400 years...well before that it was Indian territory for the last 5000 years so we just reclaimed our land.
@@br3menPT really ?? In last 3000 years four different kings have ruled the geographical region which is today known as India as one Kingdom...when Chandragupta Maurya and Ashoka the great ruled it it was called Bharathvarsh...when Akbar the great and Marathas ruled it it was known as Hindustan...even your traders of that era mentioned Indian Kings as Mughals of Hindustan...Just the term India was coined by Brits it doesn't mean that India didn't exist before 1947.
Very well educated and articulate man just like my grandfather and many others who were educated during that time. My grandfather attended school and university during 1930s and early 40s. One thing he used to tell us was that the quality of education was very high during British era, though very few Indians attended University during that time but those who did had very high level of articulation, Intelligence and IQ. Many of the books and novels my grandfather studied during his school time are now taught at college for English honours program. Basically, school educated kid of that time = College educated kid of our time. No wonder India produced many great school during that time.
i still believe...India was late to free Goa from Portuguese...it took Indian government 14 long years after to do so....d local people had to fight tooth n nail with very less help from d outside world...which was disheartening..,
In December 1928 during the Indian National Congress session at Calcutta Nehru said “ Goa has a culture distinct from the rest of India and will be treated as a separate entity “ Nehru Publicly admitted we Goans are not Indians.
He was right. Portugal refused to acknowledge the writing in the wall and to persuit the dialog and negotiation that would have avoided the bloodshed of 13 long years of colonial war, with countless lives being lost and injured.
Very smart guy and sounds the part. His accent is a mishmash between RP(Queen's accent) and an Indian neutral English. My accent is unique too with certain British and American word pronunciations, peppered with a mild Indian tonality. My Hindi is that Pandit accent so colleagues used to Rakhi Sawant/reality show accents started chiding me and I just switched to English..hah😂
One can read the comments section and correctly infer that Mr kaul's statement spies in the current day scenario as well. The Portuguese nationalist lives in the past , reminiscing about former colonial glory as he knows deep down that the countries he conquered have surpassed them economically and militarily while it gradually fades into obscurity.
@@smartbaba1321 your economy is a absolute shit. Trillions isn't impressive. The debt is of th USA is in the trillions. It's ironic how you call my country poor while you are wiping your ass with your hand. Also stop using emojis like that it's very cringy.
@@andromeda2766 sure buddy, and how exactly do you plan to transport your troops xD, so clean the shit of your streets before trying to act mighty, Goa would be better of with Portugal than with India it’s just a statistical fact
No you´re wrong! Even international court of Hague concluded in 1954: Goa was not a colony! And until 1975 Portugal was a pluricontinental country, it was the same country in Europe, Africa and Asia! For sure the world will not allowed that because they were quite jealous...
LOOOOOOL Im sorry but that its not true..you´re lying. By thr way the majority of Goans never wanted to be part of Indian Union..thats why you needed to invaded and occupied the territoire... Portugal nazi? LOL....
it was a civil dictatorship!!! ruled by a professor!! Not by militar! Don´t lie! Its not necessary...Portugal never been Nazi thats nonsense LOL. You dind´t established any democratic federal state...because Goans never wanted to be part of India. You´re totallt mental block with that fake propaganda about"nazis" lol and "colonial racist" Read some books and be serious if you can. Indian supported fake riots with Indians with no relation with Goa...Neru lost the question and he had no alternative, he left his fake and hipocrit pacifism and without declaration of war invaded a foreign country with 45000men against 3500 eheheheheh Indian only wanted to steal Goa nothing more else. neru even said: Goa will be Indian even if Goans don´t wanted LOL..why the hell he said that???? No democracy at all you just wanted to thieve Goa.
secular free nation? MUAHAHAHAHAHA India is a country only since 1947...goans were portuguese for over 450years!!! LOL Goans never voted about the invasion! Goans never wanted to be part of you thats why a lot of them say today: get the fuck out of Goa you sirty Indians"...how bad....
Do not confuse command over English as a measurement of intelligence. Those days most of the upper class families used to go to England for their studies. In this case Mr.Kaul is an exception.
My father knew this intellectual giant. Few like him in our planet. Even if one ignores his excellent English and focuses on what he mentions one is totally amazed. Today India is surely the third strongest military power after Russia and the USA mainly due to the founding fathers of modern India. They were extremely intelligent, highly educated, absolutely honest and had no materialistic greed in them, and were also great nationalists. People such as them and Mr. Kaul were feared by our enemies. Sadly most of the establishment in India today is led by uneducated people thus they are loved by our enemies. Our enemies can do no harm to India since we are militarily very powerful and even these uneducated leaders fortunately are nationalists.
Look at the quality of the interview. Two Gentlemen with contradictory views have a healthy debate in an evenly toned voice and, most importantly, letting each other finish.
The English language spoken in an elegant and eloquent way by Mr Kaul The reporter had nothing to say and was fumbling because of the hard hitting realisation of facts
Because British reporters are supposed to be impartial and only ask the pertinent questions. The BBC continues to be impartial by today's standards, but in the past British reporting was even more impartial, with impartiality only broken by the US government influencing Britain and telling them what to say.
I remember an R K Laxman cartoon was published in Times of India in 1961 showing the Portuguese rushing to a ship carrying them back to Portugal, with an impression of an Indian soldier's boot on their Butt.LOL During my visit to Portugal a few years back, I was surprised to see the struggling population with most people living cheque to cheque. Beggars could be seen in the streets. Obviously they enjoyed the wealth earned from their Colonies and left nothing much for the following generations.
This was due to the 1775 earthquake which forever crippled Portugual. And on top of that the early republic that got taken over and stabilized by Salazar. Even though he was autocratic, he did good for Portugal in the start by stop it being in a perpetual revelution and unstable state.
Goans have lived in peace until India claimed as their own. The portuguese dod not divide India in 5 did they? Blame yourself for the lack of civil rights in your country. Blame yourself for treating your woman like shit instead of treatong cows like goddess. Blame someone else for the current wars there. In Portugal there is no war and rough sleepers and beggers are everywhere. The portuguese have done more for your contry that your own people.
@@brunotorres7332 come to india we will beat your àss with the bata shoe for sure. You forgot mentioned the goan atrocities by Portuguese Christian missionaries.
He was a genuine Kashmiri that too from a remote area of the Valley. Known to my family. Today objectively few can match even him internationally. Rishi Sunak has the best possible education but any honest individual will mention he is no match for Mr. Kaul. Even if one ignores the excellent English oratory his ideas are extraordinary as well. Proud to be a Kashmiri as Saadat Hasan Manto wrote to Pandit Nehru.
@@agrawalji4474 I am not saying English supreme etc. But is it practical? There sre so many languages in India, and Hindi being spoken the most (~54% of the population) and the remaining speak other languages(Assamese, Kannada, Tamil, Marathi etc.), how will everyone be able to communicate with each other?
01:42 they had been using their force since the time they colonized parts of India. At that point in time of Indian action, they were simply outnumbered and outgunned so they decided not to go for full-fledged war but watch events unfold from lisbon.
I am living in Delhi, India.. and I used to visit my friends in Goa, India. And have fun there.. Goa is very good place. Goa is one of the smallest state of India.. on,y 3700 Km sq.. a tiny cute state.. Love Goa, Love India..
@@greg_4201first allow other country from different continent and different race to rule your lands, then you will automatically understand what injustice means.😂
@@kingrichards9295 clearly that wasn't done for long enough in whatever shithole you're from, 'cause you still have no idea what qualifies as an injustice or not. anyway, the imperial situation you're speaking of is one where a Portuguese flag flew where before there was none... there was no nationstate in any of these places, nor anything resembling the aparatus the inhabitants there now consider part of being a modern civilization 🤷🏻♂️ the inhabitants of Goa were absorbed into the Indian system, which is in turn a thoroughly British system... or at least resembling that more than the various feudal setups that reigned in that territory before the Raj... if you want to claim some injustice that was righted by independence (a thoroughly idiotic view) then throw away all the aparatus of the western wolrd and go back to how you were before... or shut up and stop complaining about literally nothing. and how in the name of all that's sane do you assume no such thing ever happened in my land at one point in time? 🤡 that's a truly asinine thought... of course it did, but you don't hear me complaining about it and calling it an injustice.
@@kingrichards9295 really I'm fed up with you clowns and your total lack of any historical knowledge acting like you have some monopoly on morality because you can regurgitate stupid Marxist slogans... the first thing anyone who actually reads any history notices about any particular country in the colonial age is the local army that supports the inperial power 🤡 what terrible injustice and insult were these men undergoing to be like 'wow, lemme sign up with and fight for these guys' 🤦🏻♂️ or is 'injustice' in your dictionary defined as 'opportunity'? 🤡 you think a few boatloads of guys show up robbing and pillaging shit and the hundreds of thousands or millions of locals are like 'damn, I'm conquered' 😂 the Europeans set up trading posts, locals flocked to them and they became towns administered by the colonists... they brought things from all over the world and made money a thing, usually for the first time, and the wealth, power and stability that grew in these colonies eventually attracted or absorbed all the surrounding people who were now participating in nation building whether they cared or not... the nations you see now were literally forged in this process... they became importers of laws, technology, culture, building techniques, tools, etc, and the experienced administrators, soldiers and artisans that make them possible, becase they were either willing or they were so primitive that their methods couldn't last in the face of these developments, the majority of their people choosing to adopt the new lifestyle and joining the colonial workforce, army or administration 🤷🏻♂️ go cry me a river, it happens to everyone and it's literally how human civilization developed. every 'native' group you could think of either passively or aggressively colonised the land they were found on by the European empires... you wanna single out one particular group at one particular time and accuse them of 'injustice'? like I said, take of your clothes, forget how to read, abandon law, have most children die at birth or in infancy, and throw away everything more advanced than the state your people were at before they were colonised and then say that shit with some integrity! 🤡 unless you do that, you yourself are a PRODUCT of European colonialism. a situation where people who do everything better, live better and could easily defeat or throw off any invader but doesn't because of brainwashing and corrupt, usurped leadership is a travesty, but where people are stuck hundreds or thousands of years in the past it's called progress.
It's always a pleasure to listen when the topic is morally righteous and the speaker is eloquent. Hard to make any counter arguments with this deadly combination.
HOW THE GOANS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY? HOW AND WHO DESTROYED THE TEMPLES OF GOA? IF THE GOANS AND AIL THE OTHER INDIANS DESIRED TO TAKE REVENGE, WHAT WOULD HAPPENED TO PORTUGUESE WAS IN GOA IN 1961.
God bless India and Portugal. We must all strive to make the world a better place for all. Maybe one day we can agree that our past union was for a greater purpose.
Sorry no. It was not a great Union for us. Look up the Goan inquisition by shefali vaidya and learn how the Portuguese treated our people. How they stole their children, tortured the people to force them to convert from their ancestral indigenous practices. Don't know why you can think it was a good union knowing what they did to your people
@@Seevawonderloaf better to study a bit more and you will know who first ended the slavery system in india... better to notice how many thounsands of christians are still killed nowadays in india because of them religion.
It were two different times, besides Goa is inside the Indian Union and East Timor is an island that had a guerrilla movement for self determination. Most of the goans that wanted portuguese rule went to Mozambique and Portugal, the majority, I believe, wanted to be part of the Indian Union
He was a Kashmiri Brahmin and I am a Dogra from Jammu and my family was close to him. His family were all great Bharati nationalists. He was and is hated by the Jewish lobby led by Dr. Kissinger. The reason Kissinger a China-lover was humiliated by Kaul in the 1971 war. Kaul outmaneuvered Kissinger and thus Bangladesh was born. It is well known that many Jews are insecure thus do not like brilliant people to lead Bharat. They prefer the semi-educated mostly idiots we have today. Shastri loved Kaul and Shastri died a natural death in USSR (his personal physician Dr,. Chugh also mentions this) and again the Jewish lobby wanted to spoil the Bharat-USSR relations (by blaming the USSR) but Indira Gandhi was the smartest politician of that period thus could not be fooled. Today the great Mr. Putin is comparable to Indiraji.
To all the Portuguese people who are screaming in the comment section about Goans not being happy in India or about Goa being a part of Portugal let me say one thing. All your screams are going in vain since we kicked you out of our country and now you can't do anything other than screaming. So scream and yell all you want and you're free to say anything to India but the fact is you're not getting Goa back😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Violence is bad but slavery is worse... I am sure that the British people would understand and appreciate it". 😅😅😅
Why Non Voilence is only for Indians
Sorry they'll never understand, Power is not given , it's taken.
People who invented slavery and then state sponsored slavery aka bonded labor will surely understand but pretend not to.
@@akashsinha2880 reminds me of the caste system. We are not innocent to exploitation.
@@thenikhilway ahaimsa parmo dharmaha was promoted by gandhi , but the whole shloka was AHIMSA PARMO DHARMAHA , DHARMAHINSA TATHAIVA CHA
Portugal : am a NATO's member now.
India. : Leme test your Unity.
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Abb nato ko zato pai rakhte hai hum
@@rajtadvi7344 arrre Bhai Bhai😂😂
Just stupid and childish...
@@ljlj8155 yeah, colonialism is stupid and childish :)
@@nitishsaxena1372
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My father MR. ROSARINHO BRAGANZA, was a freedom fighter. I am proud of him. He worked hard to get Goa liberated. God bless him and all freedom fighters of our nation.
Um traidor
@@Chapadaria you vile oppressors !
@@someshdevkar5387 congratulations you turned Goa into a shithole filled with tourists on acid.
@@Chapadaria you torturer Portugese nation torturing our people and forcefully converting hindus to christians
@@Chapadaria Like Britain, Portugal has lost its colonies, and today it is nothing compared to India. Even India's GDP is about close to $3 trillion and will increase, than a pathetic $237 billion GDP of Portugal, and expected to go lower in the coming years. Basically, today you will have to deal with shitholes in your neighborhoods from Islamic nations close to your borders from the south. You even lost Macau to China. While India produces a variety of products in innumerable fields, the best Portugal could produce was Ronaldo (good man, I am sure, but that is all). Nothing more. In the next 50 years. Portugal will be a limited in its influence, while India now and then, will be making and gaining influence with some big players. I understand it is very hard for you to comprehend these short facts, but its the sad truth. Portugal is finished.
He sounds more English than the English themselves 😂
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shows he came from a very highly educate or aristocratic background
@@tysonmcduggan6870 kashmiri pandit family
@I'm more than a human lmfao why not, he is a pandit that's his identity. He's an Indian first but a pandit too. I'm a kashmiri pandit and a proud indian
@I'm more than a human if the caste system is over, then why reservation still exists. We are proud Indian then hindu & then proud brahmin
@I'm more than a human why call maulana abul kalam aajad just say abul kalam aajad
We are proud of you Pandit Triloki Nath Kaul. India has not forgotten Kashmir Pandits nor will India ever. India will make sure that the day soon arrives when Kashmiri Pandits will return to their homeland with pride and dignity.
Yes,they must return to kashmir
yes they will with pride after all they are original kashmiris
Gud comment 👍
Not only Kashmiri Hindus , but Goan Hindus and Bru Hindus who were Geocided by the Christian missionaries
@bat wayne There have been 9 mass migrations of Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir since the dawn of Indian civilization. One of these mass migrations in the 1600's played a significant role in the eventual militarization of a community founded by Guru Nanak and profoundly affected the development of a major world religion and its ethos. Kashmir is a valley that was originally an alpine lake with the name of Satisar. Many central asians and so called Kashmiris of Persian and Turkic origin have no knowledge of Kashmir's history prior to 1000 AD, the start to their ugly invasions and profoundly vile occupation. Names like Gillani, Hamdani, Bukhari, Jeelani and Zargar are non-Kashmiri names, and these names are themselves a testament to their place of origin (outside of Kashmir). Many of those claiming 'India' as the occupier are themselves occupiers and non-Kashmiris. The memory and the bond created between Kashmir and Bharat is ancient, civilizational, irrevocable, and ultimately, unbreakable.
This reporter is not so different from the present BBC reporters. Mr. Kaul has articulated our stance very effectively. So proud of him.
No different than the cunning pro-western anti-india racist reporters from UK, USA, Canada, Europe and Aus/NZ who expect India to follow Gandhism and Non-violence even when she is attacked by a foreign power and these white supremacists want India to support all their selfish western agenda.
They were and still are trying to dumb down the entire world with their cunning narratives for initiating their agendas. 🔷
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I dont think BBC or sky news today would allow the interviewee to speak and intead constantly interupt
i wish they didnt cut the part where reporter was asked what would he do? astonishing how lack of persepctive is plaguing public place inspite of all technology avalaible
But the point of a journalist is precisely to ask difficult questions. No doubt I don't agree with him, but that's his job, to not suck up to his guests.
the most difficult questions are those about ourselves. thats why nobody wants to ask them. no wonder that reporter kinda forgot what colonial force was england, maybe he was just ignorant@@academicsanonymous2770
As an American, I am amused at why are Indians and Portuguese fighting on TH-cam? This happened 50 years go, right? It was all very simple. India picked up its sword, Portuguese troops in Goa cried and begged not to die, India agreed and shipped most of them back to Portugal unharmed. Then the Portuguese fascist government under the dictator Salazar was discredited and severely weakened only to completely collapse a decade later. So, Portuguese you should be grateful to India. They helped you defeat your own corrupt brutal dictator Salazar who came to realize that India is one country he cannot bully.
CupRunethOver Sorry,old boy,but 500 years of History can't be erased just like that.
punit p Looking back at History with modern morality's eyes its kind of...not smart?Besides,being in a place,any place,for more than 500 years,kind of makes it feel like Home,right.How old is the modern USA,how old is modern Germany or Russia or...India?
CupRunethOver I can see that you are another ignorant american! By the way, the portuguese troops in Goa were only 3000, and we weapeanry from the second world war. with no air force and navy to suport them. Against 40 000 strong and well equiped indians with air force and navy. The Indians had the obligation to win. Besides, the portuguese troops never though at all. Only some soldiers. Because if they did, probably they would have caused great casualties to indians. Maybe half the indian army could be Destroyed!
12ze34 As an American I can say I would have no say in this dispute and you are right. America is like 200 years old. Ripples in the pond of time when compared to 450 years rule in Goa. It's very easy for some fucktard to come on and just say "well that was 50 years ago, get over it." We here in the U.S. do not share a history of being occupied by a an outside force. I'm sure in the case of Goa's occupation there's a lot blood that was shed that echo's through history.
Michael Iravani As a matter of fact,you do "share a history of being occupied by an outside force",they were called "the British",latter on known as "Americans"...at least this was told by an "Indian" to me. ;)
"Portugal is living in Mediaeval Ages.". Oh my, he has so much guts.
@@FalconAviationChannel Lmao bruh. Why are you spamming about giving goa to Portugal. Firstly, you are the one actually living in Mediaeval Ages, still thinking of colonialism. Secondly, India was the golden bird, contributing more than 36% of world's gdp. It was the European colonists who destroyed our culture, heritage, knowledge and wealth. And Portugal was also one of them. Hope you will realise the truth and respect India.
@@FalconAviationChannel YES, it is because of colonists. Looting India and using its resources abroad. And if you want to justify this, I don't have anything to say.
www.jstor.org/stable/44147226?seq=1
Please first increase your knowledge and then talk about India's poverty.
The white guy has guts. Defending colonialism and racism.
It was a realistic statement. The former regime was very much medieval in foreign relations.
@@FalconAviationChannel that’s funny. Europeans lived in the Stone Age longer than any other group of people on Earth. The Chinese, Indians and Middle Easterners all independently discovered agriculture and independently created the first civilizations while Europeans were still living as Hunter Gatherers in caves and jungles, a Stone Age existence. What’s more, India and China were the richest economies in the world for thousands of years, when Portugal was a mere backwater of Europe, which was a backwater itself at the time, full of poverty and starving, illiterate peasants without adequate food and clean water. It was only the colonial loot of Asia and the New World that, combined with the imperialism of the British and French and their subsequent developments of the Industrial revolution (thanks largely to Science and technology from China, India, the Middle East and elsewhere) that Portugal and the rest of Europe even became relevant and richer than they used to be. You are only relatively prosperous because of loot and thievery, don’t be so proud of something so shameful. Your ignorance and prose speak volumes about your intelligence and character.
Wow! The grace, the class, the articulation, the finesse, the statesmanship, and the sheer erudition of the 60s Indian diplomats are so awe-inspiring.
Exactly my very first thought upon seeing this video. And a stark contrast to where India is as a nation with their leadership now, one can only imagine any of our politicians ever measuring up to such levels of statesmanship
@@icemax7 You must be mentally handicapped to think that Indian diplomacy in the 50s and 60s was better than it is in 2023. Do you even understand how terrible Krishna Menon was at dealing with the world, especially the US? They used to provide us with wheat and other crops when we were literally starving, and we used to thank them back with passionate speeches in the UN by Krishna Menon as to how terrible the US is. They were literally saving us from starvation, and we were demonizing them in return. That is not good foreign policy lmao. Just because you have a posh British accent doesn't mean you're a good diplomat retard. Indian diplomacy is at it's peak right now, with everyone wanting to invest in our country. But coolies like you will always crave for the "good old days" when you used to be a dogshit insignificant country ruled by coconuts with posh English accents, who would spit on your ugly Indian face for being an Indian. Tell me something, do coolies like you have some shared humiliation kink or something? Why do you crave for the days when being an Indian used to be a humiliating thing?
@@icemax7 he was the chief of general staff of Indian army in 1962 replacing Thimmaya who was a battle hardened general, and he is a favorite of Nehru and Menon. After the defeat, he was sacked and Manekshaw was appointed to that position, to consolidate our north east defenses.
Such erudition much wow. Yet, not a one of the myriad foreign policy problems that have plagued India since her independence was deftly handled by either Triloki Nath Kaul or any one of his erudite peers
I loved the way he pronounced enclave... on clarve
Remember Sri Lanka and the USSR supported India at the United Nations General Assembly while other countries, including Portugal, the US and the UK were against India. My great granduncle Prof. Gunapala Malalasekera was the ambassador to the United Nations representing the Dominion of Ceylon(now Sri Lanka) then.
*[EDIT]* 16.11.2023- I noticed that I've typed it as "Sri Lanka and Russia". It wasn't Russia, but the USSR, which was made out of 15 SSRs, Russian SFSR was only one of them. Also corrected some grammatical errors.
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Love Sri Lanka, I wish we have better relations in the future
But Sri Lanka supported Pakistan in 1971
@@halohaalo2583 So... What is the problem with that? India also helped LTTE until Rajiv's assassination.
Still there are small groups in Tamil Nadu which are trying to make a new Dravidian country from Tamil Nadu and North, East Sri Lanka.
@@Desertfox18 rajiv Gandhi went against Ltte bcz he was North indian and for that reason he had been assassinated
Yes, I may remind you that both Britain & Portugal have terrorized India when occupied the Sub Continent for there stealing and robbing activities.
Jai Hind, jay Goa.
So did the Germans Nazis.
@@tirikamtel : You are right.
Many more Nations could be named for misconduct against humanity.
@@felixniederhauser7799 People in glass houses should dress in the dark.
@yogi pal :Goa, ancestry is Swiss and through my wife Sanghita Bahadoersing also india. .-)
@yogi pal shun the hate, brother. Our fight is not against this man.
3:46 dude literally roasted the British in front of a British reporter
Agreed😂😂😂
Damn
LoL 😂
Mr Kaul is superintelligent, tremendously articulate
+updown 16 super intelligent in telling lies.
after all he is a kashmiri ☺
Until Chinese war
Lol go and read about him how he was the dummy of soviets ,how supposedly was honey trapped by a Chinese girl
One single search on Google will direct you there
Being born in affluent family and speaking good English doesn't amount to intelligence
@@Machaivelli Doesnt matter. He did his job very well..!!
As a Kaul (Kashmiri pandit) I am very proud of him
Me too
aS A noN kASHMIRI ALSO i AM PROUD OF THIS GENTELMAN!
This Kaul killed our PM lal bahadur shashtri
Indian Establishment Ran By Kashmiri Hindus In the Time Of Neharu-Indira Gandhi. Ultimately The Family Failed Hindus.
@@harshsaini2494 it was his cook. Muhammad was his name. Rest is your own thinking
Came here just to read comments and my god it's golden!
is freaking hot tooo
Now since we have driven out pesky Portuguese it's time to bring in Russian mafi.....erhmm I mean tourists
Yeah Portuguese are giving excuses for their surrender 😆
@@pritsingh9766 we need to conquer Portugal and give them a taste of their own medicine .
@@sarahmughal2164 WE HAVE THE FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY. WE SHOULD SIMPLY BUY ALL OF PORTUGAL AND START USING PORTIGAL AS A GARBAGE DUMP FOR INDIA'S TRASH.
Many people in the comments section are appreciative of Mr Kaul’s accent. Apart from accent , the greatest part is he kept is composure and was able to point out exact dates on his answers without losing his cool.
He is a very inspiring man love to India
Composure is key.
My dad was in the Navy and one of the first person to land on the shores of Goa after the Portuguese ran away.
My dad too...INS Betwa
My dad was in the Army and part of the Indian troops sent to Goa.
My dad was just chilling
Great!!
@@mrhellaboy I sailed on INS Betwa to Andaman and then onwards to Malaysia, i think it was 1982, when I was one of 6 NCC cadets who were selected in the Annual NCC republic day camp. It was so exciting. Brahmaputra was the other ship with us.
This gentleman speaks with a 'documentary-voice-over' tone and its mesmerizing to hear him speak
Shashi tharoor's past life
😂😂😂😂
Actually I don't agree with congress many views but i think I can see shashi as face of this country
@@jai598 Shashi Tharoor as face of india think twice again hahahaha 🤣🤣
He was 5 at that time
@@jai598 as a big of hypocrite like him
They are just fancy version of raga
They know everything yet choose to play along politics
Half of Goa was converted into Christianity by these portuguese missionaries.. Temple destroyed and churches came up.
Only ONE temple is alive.. That is tamdi surla mahadev temple.. And they say their saint xavier did some magic and ppl willingly converted to Christianity.. Lol.. Don't fool us..
How did india became hindu?
@@theawkwardcurrypot9556 India was Hindu from the start
@@Ari-cd3sn from the first homosapien migrants??
Ancient vedic religion and current hinduism?
Do mauranys know what hindu is?
@@theawkwardcurrypot9556 Hindu is the identity given by foreigners but the real name is Sanatan Dharma which we follow and with rise of our our civilization it was our religion which we practiced
Lol the Indian dude speaks better English than the Portuguese one
I think English is taught better in London King's College rather than in Lisbon University
indian was colonized by british smarty ass
The Portuguese speaks English with a strong french accent.
Of course...Portugal was not a british colony.....duhhhhh
@@farben_ thats false..portuguese have the best accent indeed..read about it. Portuguese peopleuse to make fun about spanish and french people speaking english
Great Mr kaul brilliant impeccable accent
One should be more interested in his Hindi accent IMO. Anyway, take care brother.
@@ramprasadrai4101 yes you are absolutely right, Indians seem obsessed with English and English accents, just goes to show that India may be freed from the English but their minds are still colonized. There are literally hundreds of videos on you tube where I see Indians constantly asking Americans and others what they think/know of India? Who cares what someone else thinks of your accent and your country, Keep working hard and prove yourself. Ultimately that is what matters. God bless all!
Ls Vijay you may want to enlighten the rest of us your idea of what a s*** language is and your list of s*** and nons*** languages; if not we appreciate your comic touch here:)
@@tolykozin1 Probably because Indians speaking English seems so horrible on any non Indian's ears. So listening to an Indian speaking English softly is a pleasant surprise.
@@ramprasadrai4101 He was born in Akalgarh so he probably spoke hindi with a Punjabi accent.. but then, Hindi speakers think ALL Indians should speak Hindi and you are even trying to force Hindi onto the South Indians. Be warned: West Pakistan wanted to impose Urdu onto East Pakistan.. and we all know what happened next..
Liberation of Goa was actually a cake walk for Indian Armed Forces.....!
LMAO its funny, we Chinese people support and admire India in this matter
thesuperproify
Macau is yours.
Goa is ours
The irony.
you invaded india because of Goa in 1962.
Chinese people never admire anything. And what you admire, you kill it/them. ( Ex: Bodhidharma).
A year later, asshole Nehru gave Aksai Chin to you!
*"Indian Union is crying"*
Yes we are...because when you laugh too much then tears come out 😂😂😂 👈look 😆😆
Mr. Kaul gave reporter his own medicine, much needed at the time.
U w0t.
The reporter simply asked the questions that the people who would watch this film wanted answered.
@@cheekmcbreek1146 Portugal is a part of India
@@pritsingh9766 ????
@Capt Abhimanyu Bhat don't think of something which is not possible
@Capt Abhimanyu bhat stop your extreme ideology... You don't want a middle East or Afghanistan scenario in South Asia right?
This Indian gentleman has a very good command of the Queens language
Cecil Munsamy kings college
Cecil Munsamy the fuck
Roman language......based on Sanskrit. Queen spoke a different language altogether. In our schooling English is still the first language as it acts as a global connection. The British people used to speak Latin. That's why your last rites are done using Latin language but that's limited to elites only now. Romans created English language. Remember this. Tell your friends too. The funny part is English grammar is almost entirely picked from that of Sanskrit.
Fuck the queen
the looter and shameless queen wear looted kohinoor
" Anyways the Portuguese and British dont have that kind of muscle anymore " The European countries are getting chased down by the Russians and Chinese governments power and influence .
@@truthteller4993 yeah 👍 it's inspired from godfather casino talk scene between moe green and Michael
Mr. Kaul was an astute bureaucrat and he could beat the illogical argument for continuing Colonialism with a cleverly crafted reply. I enjoyed the video immensely.
It is not called invasion lol
It should be more like...Reclaiming it!!
@@br3menPT ok lol...too late now!!😂🤣
why? Its not finished.... :) calm down Goa will have their own time
@@br3menPT alright don't take much time 😉
@@HoneyBadgerz Goa was Portugal for 450years....take it easy....relax....
br3menPT You want Goa back for your country? I just can’t understand why are you fighting. It’s impossible by your country to get it back now.
I'm Indonesian, I luv Indian people, yes I do agree decolonialism...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_occupation_of_East_Timor
"Oxford University held an academic consensus calling the occupation of East Timor a genocide and Yale University teaches it as part of its Genocide Studies program"
@@pedrotavares3426I think Yale has quite a few examples to study in its home country.😂
Excellent .... Hats off to Mr.Kaul ... austerity, Clarity, courage, diplomacy all sparkle in his speech... India has indeed produced great statesman like Mr. Kaul... Its because of these great men, India is what it is today ... These heroes need to be celebrated.
I feel bad for Kashmir Pandits. They are such gems and loved India with heart. Sad to see that now Kashmir is represented by converted people who hate India to core. Much worse, these converts have driven out all the Pandits from Kashmir stripping them of residence.
precluder blogg , DON'T WORRY MY FRIEND , GOA AND KASHMIR WILL BECOME HINDU AGAIN !!!
@@jaiprem7413 Goa is already majority hindu
India had an easy walk over in goa it was like Germany beating Vatican in football match if there be one
Yes uau how brave you where with a army 50X bigger and with Air Force and navy fantastic...
By other hand during 450 years...
@@ljlj8155 cry in some corner go
@@jayantjha3128 we crying? No who is crying is the people from Goa, Daman and Diu...that never had the chance to choose...what a democratic country India is...
@@ljlj8155 lmao theres no freedom struggle in goa and daman and diu and they are some of the most patriotic Indians out there. How do I know? I have been there
@@jayantjha3128 well what I know is that many many tens of thousands of Goan people ( etcnily indians) Left the territory as refugees after the invasion in 1961 and moved to Mozambique and to Portugal, and today many of them are prominent rich families. What I know is that the current Goan people keep the portuguese first name and sure name, and keep the portuguese traditions and culture as the Catholic religion, language and songs etc . They Also keep the portuguese name of the streets. It was 450 years of presence, and it was at least since the last 2 centuries a peaceful cohabitation- Goa the Rome of the Indic.
If the majority preferes to be independent, Indians or portuguese only a referendum can prove it.
Not just a nationalist opinion.
That is what a democracy does.
So if there are no doubts, And if India dominates the territory since 60 why is there any afraid to make a referendum?
You know that Mumbai was offered as gift to the portuguese King by a Majará?
Don’t compare the portuguese with the brits. Difference history.
The funny fact is that Goa is one of the most richest state of India...that’s maybe the main reason because India has invaded and conquered by arms...not because you we’re against colonialism- that I Am too- economics as usual...
Portugal had a minor force in Goa...just a few mans in infantry...india camed with planes, tanks, and an army 20X bigger...cause the portuguese army was aggressive... 😂...Portugal was very aggressive just by being in Goa since 1500...
Anti colonialism propaganda by totalariam regimes ...I supposed that Mr. Gandhi was against wars and oppression...
India “invades” Portuguese colony 😂! It was part of India that the Portuguese colonised in the first place. To pretend otherwise is ridiculous
Exactly!!
This comment should be highlighted. Lol.
Goa wasn't a part of India before India helped Goa get rid of Portuguese
@@halleyscomet2672 😂 ok.
@@halleyscomet2672 Now you don't come here till 2097
Half way through the video I thought that Mr.Kaul is some Englishman speaking for Goans.😪
Hehehehe lol true
Yes
You are not allowed to use National emblem!
GOA INQUISITION will never be forgotten 🕉️🇮🇳
I really like his conversation skills!!! He's a true Orator!!
You don't have any idea how big role he had in the murder of great lal bahadur shastri🥺
@@Rogeraj Has he? I only knew about his role in India's humiliating defeat in 1962.
Would you please elaborate.
PS: He was a General solely because he had political connections and not due to his competence.
@@Rogeraj Not him; it is the conduct of his cook that is suspect. He may have participated in the eventual cover-up, but he was only a diplomat heeding the orders of the political executive.
Diplomats during the Early years of independence used to speak Victorian English!
Many indian think, Goa is Cristinity places. If knows about Goan history will better to understand about hindusium place who looted Goa and converted forcefully and badly treated to become Christan.
Still its even now a Hindu Place of worship every temple matters .
Uppercaste indians treated lowercastes worse.
We are still majority Hindu, it's just a fucking stereotype by normies
Don't worry brother many Christian across Europe voluntary converted to isconite Hindus during iscon movement and hippy movement.
@@scientificatheist9381 hey you need to read history of goa and atrocities on goans BTW caste system has eradicated just tell
Honestly lots of respect to the founding Indian administration. It was a monumental task to maintain our sovereignty and establish the Indian state in the age of imperialism.
This is how Today's diplomats should speak with media. This man was💎 gem...we have seen what mess UN created in kashmir when we were attacked.
India was so brave againtS 3500 men in Goa but so coward against China or Pakistan poor darling
@@br3menPT ha ha 😂. We just gave China our vaccine in ladakh...they ran away...Pakistan lost 4 wars with india.... ha ha 😂
@@br3menPT the bravery of Pakistan is reflected in the form of Bangladesh on global map...and by the way you said in one of your comments that Goa was Portuguese colony for some 400 years...well before that it was Indian territory for the last 5000 years so we just reclaimed our land.
@@utpalgautam6335 yeah but India was a geographical concept..not political! Thats the difference!!
@@br3menPT really ?? In last 3000 years four different kings have ruled the geographical region which is today known as India as one Kingdom...when Chandragupta Maurya and Ashoka the great ruled it it was called Bharathvarsh...when Akbar the great and Marathas ruled it it was known as Hindustan...even your traders of that era mentioned Indian Kings as Mughals of Hindustan...Just the term India was coined by Brits it doesn't mean that India didn't exist before 1947.
they changed indians to christianity and india forced them out peacefully. thats enough kindness.
Lowercastes should have done the same
So portugal should give ronaldo to india now!!
Portugal is living in the middle ages. Reading the comments it feels it still is. 🤷🏽♂️
Wow, no idea this happened, fair play to India.
+match box No mate, I'm British.
This man's English 😍
Saaaar enngish saaaar
Very well educated and articulate man just like my grandfather and many others who were educated during that time. My grandfather attended school and university during 1930s and early 40s. One thing he used to tell us was that the quality of education was very high during British era, though very few Indians attended University during that time but those who did had very high level of articulation, Intelligence and IQ. Many of the books and novels my grandfather studied during his school time are now taught at college for English honours program. Basically, school educated kid of that time = College educated kid of our time. No wonder India produced many great school during that time.
That mid 50 and 70s english accent .. was on another level.
i still believe...India was late to free Goa from Portuguese...it took Indian government 14 long years after to do so....d local people had to fight tooth n nail with very less help from d outside world...which was disheartening..,
In December 1928 during the Indian National Congress session at Calcutta Nehru said “ Goa has a culture distinct from the rest of India and will be treated as a separate entity “ Nehru Publicly admitted we Goans are not Indians.
Abe chutiye nikal yaha se
Goa part of India ! From Malaysia .
That's class. Real class. It's not just Portuguese even the poms still live in the medieval times
He was right. Portugal refused to acknowledge the writing in the wall and to persuit the dialog and negotiation that would have avoided the bloodshed of 13 long years of colonial war, with countless lives being lost and injured.
That was a liberation not invasion.
Very smart guy and sounds the part. His accent is a mishmash between RP(Queen's accent) and an Indian neutral English. My accent is unique too with certain British and American word pronunciations, peppered with a mild Indian tonality. My Hindi is that Pandit accent so colleagues used to Rakhi Sawant/reality show accents started chiding me and I just switched to English..hah😂
STFU fool. The discussion is not about you.
India had so many gems like this at that time. We do have now too though but we had so many aw-inspiring leaders precious than any wealth.
One can read the comments section and correctly infer that Mr kaul's statement spies in the current day scenario as well.
The Portuguese nationalist lives in the past , reminiscing about former colonial glory as he knows deep down that the countries he conquered have surpassed them economically and militarily while it gradually fades into obscurity.
"Rule of Power"
India cant do anything to anyone.
@@Encovelicus helpless Small European nation crying due to poor Economic😁😂😀😂 and see us Trillion dollar economy, do you know how many Zero in it😂😀😁😂
@@adityanawani8134 no
@@smartbaba1321 your economy is a absolute shit. Trillions isn't impressive. The debt is of th USA is in the trillions. It's ironic how you call my country poor while you are wiping your ass with your hand. Also stop using emojis like that it's very cringy.
Guilherme Sousa
Your arabic appearance tells us otherwise!😂😂😂
all I came here was to see where my ancestors came from and what I got was a bunch of Indians and Portuguese people fighting (I’m kinda both .-.)
That's because trolls spend their days discussing their indoctrinations. My familly also has conection to Goa 😀.
I've seen huge posters in Goa with advertisements of migration to Portugal 😂. I guess people still migrate there from Goa.
portugal is a savage nation in europe.india is not south america
of course india is not south america
we kick out the spaniards two centuries ago, not the last year like your people
of course India is not Portugal. The Portuguese do not openly shit in the street.
Imrith, seems like you triggered a bankrupt latin and a beggar from southern europe. Haha
@@DendrilopisXaggro The Europeans are holding power and money and businesses in Latin America. You kicked them out? It is false.
@@jithendrahegde8824 you dont even know who your mother is....poor darling
haha i would like to see the portuguese try and re-invade Goa today; that would be funny
they will be invaded by indian navy
@@ramdev6421 our home guard or watch man can invade Portugal
@@andromeda2766 lmao no, NATO would absolutely destroy you
@@evolution__snow6784 NATO is a paper tiger lol. Our rice farmers are enough to destroy NATO .
@@andromeda2766 sure buddy, and how exactly do you plan to transport your troops xD, so clean the shit of your streets before trying to act mighty, Goa would be better of with Portugal than with India it’s just a statistical fact
This is how colonial powers when crumble cry!!
Goa was not a colony in1961...
No you´re wrong! Even international court of Hague concluded in 1954: Goa was not a colony!
And until 1975 Portugal was a pluricontinental country, it was the same country in Europe, Africa and Asia! For sure the world will not allowed that because they were quite jealous...
LOOOOOOL Im sorry but that its not true..you´re lying. By thr way the majority of Goans never wanted to be part of Indian Union..thats why you needed to invaded and occupied the territoire... Portugal nazi? LOL....
it was a civil dictatorship!!! ruled by a professor!! Not by militar! Don´t lie! Its not necessary...Portugal never been Nazi thats nonsense LOL. You dind´t established any democratic federal state...because Goans never wanted to be part of India. You´re totallt mental block with that fake propaganda about"nazis" lol and "colonial racist" Read some books and be serious if you can.
Indian supported fake riots with Indians with no relation with Goa...Neru lost the question and he had no alternative, he left his fake and hipocrit pacifism and without declaration of war invaded a foreign country with 45000men against 3500 eheheheheh Indian only wanted to steal Goa nothing more else. neru even said: Goa will be Indian even if Goans don´t wanted LOL..why the hell he said that???? No democracy at all you just wanted to thieve Goa.
secular free nation? MUAHAHAHAHAHA India is a country only since 1947...goans were portuguese for over 450years!!! LOL Goans never voted about the invasion! Goans never wanted to be part of you thats why a lot of them say today: get the fuck out of Goa you sirty Indians"...how bad....
Proud of our kashmiri pandit community for representing the nation so well ... Mr Kaul is a role model
Stark difference between today's politicians and yesteryears. They were educated knowledgeable and polite....hats of to Mr Kaul.....
Does Dr. Jaishankar rings a bell in your ears trapped in the 60s
Do not confuse command over English as a measurement of intelligence. Those days most of the upper class families used to go to England for their studies. In this case Mr.Kaul is an exception.
He is bureucrat. not politician.
Its you who's badly in need of some education.
Perhaps you will understanding the difference between a diplomat and poltician after that.
French, German, Spanish, Danish, Swedes, Norwegian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese all laughing in the corner 😂
My father knew this intellectual giant. Few like him in our planet. Even if one ignores his excellent English and focuses on what he mentions one is totally amazed. Today India is surely the third strongest military power after Russia and the USA mainly due to the founding fathers of modern India. They were extremely intelligent, highly educated, absolutely honest and had no materialistic greed in them, and were also great nationalists. People such as them and Mr. Kaul were feared by our enemies. Sadly most of the establishment in India today is led by uneducated people thus they are loved by our enemies. Our enemies can do no harm to India since we are militarily very powerful and even these uneducated leaders fortunately are nationalists.
China is number 3
There is no need to justify taking back what was yours, end of story.
Please, please, fellow Indians, why can't we speak like Mr. Kaul ? Top class accent!
Because it's not our accent, fricking boot-licker.
It's not his accent but how articulate he is. Who cares about the accent
Look at the quality of the interview. Two Gentlemen with contradictory views have a healthy debate in an evenly toned voice and, most importantly, letting each other finish.
The English language spoken in an elegant and eloquent way by Mr Kaul
The reporter had nothing to say and was fumbling because of the hard hitting realisation of facts
Because British reporters are supposed to be impartial and only ask the pertinent questions. The BBC continues to be impartial by today's standards, but in the past British reporting was even more impartial, with impartiality only broken by the US government influencing Britain and telling them what to say.
Mr Kaul is extremely articulate!
So that year India had 450 million people. Now it's 1.3 BILLION. Woah!
it wasn't invasion, it was liberation.
It was an invasion with the intent of liberation, a debate on this is one of mere semantics
@@miguelpadeiro762 Invasion for intention of liberation is liberation.
@@Satyamev_Jayate100 And an invasion as well, we both called it that too
@@miguelpadeiro762 No
I remember an R K Laxman cartoon was published in Times of India in 1961 showing the Portuguese rushing to a ship carrying them back to Portugal, with an impression of an Indian soldier's boot on their Butt.LOL
During my visit to Portugal a few years back, I was surprised to see the struggling population with most people living cheque to cheque. Beggars could be seen in the streets. Obviously they enjoyed the wealth earned from their Colonies and left nothing much for the following generations.
This was due to the 1775 earthquake which forever crippled Portugual. And on top of that the early republic that got taken over and stabilized by Salazar. Even though he was autocratic, he did good for Portugal in the start by stop it being in a perpetual revelution and unstable state.
1 thing is very clear here ....these Portuguese are good at giving excuses. 😆
Goans have lived in peace until India claimed as their own.
The portuguese dod not divide India in 5 did they?
Blame yourself for the lack of civil rights in your country. Blame yourself for treating your woman like shit instead of treatong cows like goddess. Blame someone else for the current wars there.
In Portugal there is no war and rough sleepers and beggers are everywhere.
The portuguese have done more for your contry that your own people.
@@brunotorres7332 by running inquistions in Goa right? Get the fuck out of here you piece of shit
@@brunotorres7332 come to india we will beat your àss with the bata shoe for sure. You forgot mentioned the goan atrocities by Portuguese Christian missionaries.
long live free india...down with colonalisom....
His Accent ❤😍
Cringe inferiority complex
He was a genuine Kashmiri that too from a remote area of the Valley. Known to my family. Today objectively few can match even him internationally. Rishi Sunak has the best possible education but any honest individual will mention he is no match for Mr. Kaul. Even if one ignores the excellent English oratory his ideas are extraordinary as well. Proud to be a Kashmiri as Saadat Hasan Manto wrote to Pandit Nehru.
are you kashmiri bro
He nailed each and every answer. I've not seen an interview given with such grace.
A tragedy. We should have kept that accent. Classy
Instead, I think it's time to forget this language.
@@agrawalji4474 you are right
@@agrawalji4474 I am not saying English supreme etc. But is it practical? There sre so many languages in India, and Hindi being spoken the most (~54% of the population) and the remaining speak other languages(Assamese, Kannada, Tamil, Marathi etc.), how will everyone be able to communicate with each other?
@@suryatejas3013 Sanskrit is a unifying language
01:42 they had been using their force since the time they colonized parts of India. At that point in time of Indian action, they were simply outnumbered and outgunned so they decided not to go for full-fledged war but watch events unfold from lisbon.
they won the diplomatic issue...neruh had to left his fake pacifism...
Wanna see what he replied when Dr kaul asked him how do he feel.
I am an Indian. I love CR7. He is Portuguese. I love Goan beaches too. Everything's just fine.
I am living in Delhi, India.. and I used to visit my friends in Goa, India. And have fun there.. Goa is very good place. Goa is one of the smallest state of India.. on,y 3700 Km sq.. a tiny cute state.. Love Goa, Love India..
India need people like him right now..
Do you know TN Koul sir's family?
India has already got them.
@@silvarajoomuniandy4316😂
To give another Tibet to China or what?
And here starts the keyboard war between new generation Portuguese and new generation Indians😂😂😂
Not really
@@strcs_ are you Indian?
he has a great way of putting the questions back on to the reporter. The reporter was like "this is way above my pay grade".
Why is it that where the Portuguese settled, the area was more prosperous? Add 2 and 2 together
Quit whinning
I just didn't understand what Portugal was even thinking going 1 on 1
THANK YOU for this video! Today I learnt that Goa got independence only on the 19th December 1961. Jai Hind, Only way is up for Bharat!
It was great move by the Indian Government to give freedom and justice to Goans.
Goa was, is and will be integral part of India 🇮🇳
Better for them to be integrated into India, but I dunno about 'justice' lol
what great 'injustuce' did they suffer? 😅
@@greg_4201first allow other country from different continent and different race to rule your lands, then you will automatically understand what injustice means.😂
@@kingrichards9295 clearly that wasn't done for long enough in whatever shithole you're from, 'cause you still have no idea what qualifies as an injustice or not.
anyway, the imperial situation you're speaking of is one where a Portuguese flag flew where before there was none... there was no nationstate in any of these places, nor anything resembling the aparatus the inhabitants there now consider part of being a modern civilization 🤷🏻♂️
the inhabitants of Goa were absorbed into the Indian system, which is in turn a thoroughly British system... or at least resembling that more than the various feudal setups that reigned in that territory before the Raj...
if you want to claim some injustice that was righted by independence (a thoroughly idiotic view) then throw away all the aparatus of the western wolrd and go back to how you were before... or shut up and stop complaining about literally nothing.
and how in the name of all that's sane do you assume no such thing ever happened in my land at one point in time? 🤡 that's a truly asinine thought...
of course it did, but you don't hear me complaining about it and calling it an injustice.
@@kingrichards9295 really I'm fed up with you clowns and your total lack of any historical knowledge acting like you have some monopoly on morality because you can regurgitate stupid Marxist slogans...
the first thing anyone who actually reads any history notices about any particular country in the colonial age is the local army that supports the inperial power 🤡
what terrible injustice and insult were these men undergoing to be like 'wow, lemme sign up with and fight for these guys' 🤦🏻♂️
or is 'injustice' in your dictionary defined as 'opportunity'? 🤡
you think a few boatloads of guys show up robbing and pillaging shit and the hundreds of thousands or millions of locals are like 'damn, I'm conquered' 😂
the Europeans set up trading posts, locals flocked to them and they became towns administered by the colonists... they brought things from all over the world and made money a thing, usually for the first time, and the wealth, power and stability that grew in these colonies eventually attracted or absorbed all the surrounding people who were now participating in nation building whether they cared or not... the nations you see now were literally forged in this process...
they became importers of laws, technology, culture, building techniques, tools, etc, and the experienced administrators, soldiers and artisans that make them possible, becase they were either willing or they were so primitive that their methods couldn't last in the face of these developments, the majority of their people choosing to adopt the new lifestyle and joining the colonial workforce, army or administration 🤷🏻♂️
go cry me a river, it happens to everyone and it's literally how human civilization developed.
every 'native' group you could think of either passively or aggressively colonised the land they were found on by the European empires...
you wanna single out one particular group at one particular time and accuse them of 'injustice'?
like I said, take of your clothes, forget how to read, abandon law, have most children die at birth or in infancy, and throw away everything more advanced than the state your people were at before they were colonised and then say that shit with some integrity! 🤡 unless you do that, you yourself are a PRODUCT of European colonialism.
a situation where people who do everything better, live better and could easily defeat or throw off any invader but doesn't because of brainwashing and corrupt, usurped leadership is a travesty, but where people are stuck hundreds or thousands of years in the past it's called progress.
@@kingrichards9295: excellent reply😅
The influence of British English on Indian diplomats was so surreal back in the day
It's always a pleasure to listen when the topic is morally righteous and the speaker is eloquent. Hard to make any counter arguments with this deadly combination.
HOW THE GOANS CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY?
HOW AND WHO DESTROYED THE TEMPLES OF GOA?
IF THE GOANS AND AIL THE OTHER INDIANS DESIRED TO TAKE REVENGE, WHAT WOULD HAPPENED TO PORTUGUESE WAS IN GOA IN 1961.
Yes it was a Lethal Genocide
Just like N*zi Germany by the Portuguese Christians
What an amazing mind with amazing presence of mind!
God bless India and Portugal. We must all strive to make the world a better place for all. Maybe one day we can agree that our past union was for a greater purpose.
Yeah we should move on.
Sorry no. It was not a great Union for us. Look up the Goan inquisition by shefali vaidya and learn how the Portuguese treated our people. How they stole their children, tortured the people to force them to convert from their ancestral indigenous practices. Don't know why you can think it was a good union knowing what they did to your people
Yeah
@@Seevawonderloaf better to study a bit more and you will know who first ended the slavery system in india... better to notice how many thounsands of christians are still killed nowadays in india because of them religion.
@@joaodias9747well what comes around goes around st Thomas were also killed by Portuguese catholics want to comment on that
It were two different times, besides Goa is inside the Indian Union and East Timor is an island that had a guerrilla movement for self determination. Most of the goans that wanted portuguese rule went to Mozambique and Portugal, the majority, I believe, wanted to be part of the Indian Union
Welcome Portuguese in Goa with tourist visa😂😂😂
Portuguese people:- Goa de do ,Goa de do😂😂😂
Same like Pakistani:-kashmir dedo kashmir dedo 😂😂😂
do your research on how many Goans left after indian occupation, they chose portuguese citizenship.
He was a Kashmiri Brahmin and I am a Dogra from Jammu and my family was close to him. His family were all great Bharati nationalists. He was and is hated by the Jewish lobby led by Dr. Kissinger. The reason Kissinger a China-lover was humiliated by Kaul in the 1971 war. Kaul outmaneuvered Kissinger and thus Bangladesh was born. It is well known that many Jews are insecure thus do not like brilliant people to lead Bharat. They prefer the semi-educated mostly idiots we have today. Shastri loved Kaul and Shastri died a natural death in USSR (his personal physician Dr,. Chugh also mentions this) and again the Jewish lobby wanted to spoil the Bharat-USSR relations (by blaming the USSR) but Indira Gandhi was the smartest politician of that period thus could not be fooled. Today the great Mr. Putin is comparable to Indiraji.
But Muslims killed Hindus in Bangladesh.
To all the Portuguese people who are screaming in the comment section about Goans not being happy in India or about Goa being a part of Portugal let me say one thing. All your screams are going in vain since we kicked you out of our country and now you can't do anything other than screaming. So scream and yell all you want and you're free to say anything to India but the fact is you're not getting Goa back😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 So true
🇵🇹 🇮🇳 ❤️❤️
Ronaldo ka chodha
I was thinking about India's invasion of Goa for past 2 days but didn't search for it and today TH-cam is recommending this
Fishy
It was a retake of territory not an invasion.
@@puraLusa yeah like don't catch words like that. I meant the same thing
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