If you go back to the blower test, what'd you'd notice is toward the end, like the 6 minute mark, the output on the blower with the edge battery would be notably higher. The drastically reduced internal resistance allows the voltage to stay higher for longer, which means the drop off curve is much flatter until it falls off a cliff when the battery simply runs out of juice. But the total energy stored is still the same so if it outputting more energy from 4 minutes to 7 minutes, then it physically has less to continue running at 9 minutes
Been in the platform since rhe Blue tools. Now own maybe 35 Ryobis, many brushless. Bought the 9ahs when they were on sale, own 6 of them. Yes they're heavy but wow what a performance difference. Charge them in the Ryobi wall mount 6 charger. No issues whatsoever.
Because of good experience I has with a 24 volt trimmer I purchased about 16 years ago, I replaced it due to battery no longer available at a reasonable price (third party). I purchased a new18 volt trimmer and the rest is history. Ryobi had constant "specials" with the 18 volt tools and batteries so I built my arsenal. I no longer had to drag out my 100 foot extension cord to use power tools outside and at the far ends of my property. Ryobi had a complete system with one type of battery for many tools so that was a big incentive. Their special promotions provided reasonable pricing and either a free tool or two free batteries. So now I have 10 4ah batteries (and two 2ah) and five regular chargers. That was smart and successful marketing on Ryobi's part, and smart purchasing on my part. These tool are all a DIY person needs. I don't know how they would perform if I were a contractor. But the price is right for average home use. As for the edge battery, I'm not impressed and don't see a need to upgrade. Your test was fair, accurate, and honest. Thanks.
I just got in the brushless 21 degree framing nailer with the hp4 amp batt-ray and this nail gun is a beast. Can’t wait to use it. I’m a longtime Ryobi user and this is my first batt-ray nailer of any brand. One interesting feature is battery connector moves and it is labeled shock absorber. Neat feature if you drop it, assuming this is why they added this feature. Do you have a review on this nail gun. They are touting with this battery 750 nails before a charge. Starting a couple large decks and some interior remodeling with new framing and subfloors so excited to see how this works out. I’ve always used pneumatic nail guns but if this gun works well, it will definitely be worth the 329.99 I paid for it which I thought with battery is a good price. Very interesting battery test. Liked it alot
My neighbor has 4ah edge and I tested with my ryobi 1"sds. Now the regular battery and the one it does a decent job but I threw edge in it and it was almost a different tool. Edge is very nice option for higher power tools. I will grab a couple soon. Thanks for the infotainment!
I love my old ryobi 5.5" circular saw because it's super light. I noticed a big improvement when i switched to their high power batteries. I run it with a 6.0 and it still only weighs a few pounds. Perfect for cutting overhead or on a ladder. Im also into m18/m12 but as far as i can tell nothing matches the weight to power ratio, and i can't wait to get one of these new batteries to try it out.
Wow! I wasn't expecting this much of a step up in power with the Edge, from the regular HP being already a good step up from standard batteries... But it's another big step up... Maybe even bigger. And they probably will run noticeably cooler too
The 2nd two of the three batteries being premium probably had cells that can output higher current than the "cheap" one. And that's probably why it died first. 4 amp/hr is 4 amp/hr . Lower current consumption might let the battery manage it's discharge rate a little better, but I don't think by much. Might make more power in a circular saw with a little less runtime.
My understanding is the hp tools can use the extra power from the edge. Curious if you do get longer run time on the nonhp tools. Overall though standard battray looking real nice like
Any tool can use the extra power to some extent... It's just that HP tools can use it more... especially if they have the extra HP connections. And the Edge batteries will prolly run cooler on any tool too. I'm a fan of HP batteries myself and might upgrade to Edge when it's economically sensible
Almost like Vegan Cheesesteaks Good!!!!! Lmao. Bro this had me laughing so hard. Even the wife who isn’t as knowledgeable about power tools caught the difference in the sounds with the edge. Ryobi must never sleep. Keep up the awesome content.
Yo Clint! Question. To get the extra power effect from the Edge battery, does one have to be using an HP tool? Meaning, the extra power of HP vs standard is if one is using an HP tool. Wondering if it's the same recipe for the Edge. 🤔
Great question Dave. I don't think the kwer I'm the video was an hp, but it was definitely pushing more air. I would say they this will probably run all the tolls a bit harder, ut I'll definitely do more digging into this 👊👊👊👊
Honestly, there is a slight advantage to the EDGE battery. But not enough to make me run out and replace my HP batteries. But I would buy the EDGE batteries from here moving forward with any new tools, just because they are obviously the most powerful option. Also, was that circular saw a gen 2? I'm wandering if all the newer gen 2 tools they announced will take better advantage of that EDGE battery tech.
Thanks for this, I have been looking forward to a heads up challenge regarding these batt-rays. Any chance you could do another but with their OPE ? I have a suspicion that this is where they might shine ?
One Thing That Really Matters Is The Maturity Of The Battery. It takes apx 10X's of using & charging the batteries to reach a full power. I've tested the same old batteries with the same new batteries & this is what I've found. Stay Encouraged 😜
I have been doing ryobi for 13 years, atm have around 30 pieces, do on average a charge a day, sometimes as much as four a day, on average eight batteries, treat them well, EVERY YEAR WITHOUT FAIL I HAVE ONE SOMETIMES TWO FAIL, Keeping the batteries replacment up is a cost that i was not expecting, and every time one fails i question my choice of using RYOBI, TOOLS PRITTY GOOD, BATTERIES SHITTY, In AUSTRALIA, ryobi is around twice the price compaered to USA.
I think that where extra power is needed the HO Batteries are the way to go. Extra Extra power is needed then the edge has the edge of the Standard HO battery. NO Philly for me!!
I guess I'm the dumb one here, but I thought amp hour meant how many amps it could deliver in a period of time. So if they are all 4 amp hour batteries then I'd expect them to die at about the same time under the same load.
Ah just means battery power output you can have a massive battery and had just 4ah. Edge battery seems smaller so it's going to last less than the others. Edge battery should last at least same time with a little bit more power. So Ryobi save money making it smaller(less cells) and does selling it expensive offering a little bit more power than others, more profit for them.
Honestly, I think you just proved that the new Edge batteries are a waste of money. The bog standard $99.oo battery got the job done. Took a little longer. It struggled a bit, but it got the job done.... _which is perfectly fine for a DIY/Homeowner power-tool brand._ Seriously, it's Ryobi. It's not Makita, Milwaukee, or specifically DeWalt XR. Amateur DIYer isn't going to care that it's taking a bit longer to complete a home improvement project. Especially if it allows him to get away from the wife for several minutes longer. What you just proved is that the $99.oo battery is good enough. (Also, we all know that you and Vince are friends.)
My wife is right there by my side building, wrenching, and getting it done. She ain't afraid to get her hands dirty. I'm sure others have awesome wives too. Sounds to me someone's a little bitter, $20 more for better performance? I'd say that's a win, considering all the other tool brands that mark up their higher performing batteries way way more then that.
@@michealrobinson Sounds to me, someone has a fragile little ego and can only make himself feel better by subtly insulting random strangers on the internet whom he knows nothing about.
You do know they are using different cells in all the batteries? The ah is the same but the power delivered will be different. Need to open them up and see what cells they all use. If it's 20 amp 30 amp or 40 amp. That's where they are going to differ. People testing by run time is misleading.
Not sure this is the best way to test these batteries an inverter might be better because you get the same load all the time these tools are putting the extra energy to use instead of running longer.
I tried to be the better man here and reach out with the phone calls, but unfortunately.... he will use this to hate me ire than he already does I'm afraid 😪
If you go back to the blower test, what'd you'd notice is toward the end, like the 6 minute mark, the output on the blower with the edge battery would be notably higher. The drastically reduced internal resistance allows the voltage to stay higher for longer, which means the drop off curve is much flatter until it falls off a cliff when the battery simply runs out of juice. But the total energy stored is still the same so if it outputting more energy from 4 minutes to 7 minutes, then it physically has less to continue running at 9 minutes
Thanks for tagging us, I didn't realize you still made content! Glad to see you're back on the horse...
Giddy up Flint!
lol ...vegan
Wow, this is the thanks I get for calling and reaching out to you. Unreal 😪
@@VCGConstruction Philly cheese steak with nacho cheese..not cheese wiz!!!
Wit or witout!!!! Lol!!!
@@RidgidRon cooper sharp or straight up American cheese is how I like mine.
Been in the platform since rhe Blue tools. Now own maybe 35 Ryobis, many brushless. Bought the 9ahs when they were on sale, own 6 of them. Yes they're heavy but wow what a performance difference. Charge them in the Ryobi wall mount 6 charger. No issues whatsoever.
Because of good experience I has with a 24 volt trimmer I purchased about 16 years ago, I replaced it due to battery no longer available at a reasonable price (third party). I purchased a new18 volt trimmer and the rest is history. Ryobi had constant "specials" with the 18 volt tools and batteries so I built my arsenal. I no longer had to drag out my 100 foot extension cord to use power tools outside and at the far ends of my property. Ryobi had a complete system with one type of battery for many tools so that was a big incentive. Their special promotions provided reasonable pricing and either a free tool or two free batteries. So now I have 10 4ah batteries (and two 2ah) and five regular chargers. That was smart and successful marketing on Ryobi's part, and smart purchasing on my part. These tool are all a DIY person needs. I don't know how they would perform if I were a contractor. But the price is right for average home use. As for the edge battery, I'm not impressed and don't see a need to upgrade. Your test was fair, accurate, and honest. Thanks.
Great video! You did a good job showing just how much of a difference the battery tech can make.
I just got in the brushless 21 degree framing nailer with the hp4 amp batt-ray and this nail gun is a beast. Can’t wait to use it. I’m a longtime Ryobi user and this is my first batt-ray nailer of any brand. One interesting feature is battery connector moves and it is labeled shock absorber. Neat feature if you drop it, assuming this is why they added this feature. Do you have a review on this nail gun. They are touting with this battery 750 nails before a charge. Starting a couple large decks and some interior remodeling with new framing and subfloors so excited to see how this works out. I’ve always used pneumatic nail guns but if this gun works well, it will definitely be worth the 329.99 I paid for it which I thought with battery is a good price. Very interesting battery test. Liked it alot
Thank you for the information, and also, thank you for the entertainment.
My neighbor has 4ah edge and I tested with my ryobi 1"sds. Now the regular battery and the one it does a decent job but I threw edge in it and it was almost a different tool. Edge is very nice option for higher power tools. I will grab a couple soon. Thanks for the infotainment!
And thank you for the feedback Colt!
Cheese Whiz on a Philly cheese steak is the way to go. Thanks for the video. Good information here.
Keep up the good work Clint.
I love my old ryobi 5.5" circular saw because it's super light. I noticed a big improvement when i switched to their high power batteries. I run it with a 6.0 and it still only weighs a few pounds. Perfect for cutting overhead or on a ladder. Im also into m18/m12 but as far as i can tell nothing matches the weight to power ratio, and i can't wait to get one of these new batteries to try it out.
Wow! I wasn't expecting this much of a step up in power with the Edge, from the regular HP being already a good step up from standard batteries... But it's another big step up... Maybe even bigger. And they probably will run noticeably cooler too
Yeah, they claim they run cooler as well 👊👊
Lol to funny 😂... Great job Clint. Here We Go Steelers Here we Go!!!!!!
Black and gold baby!°°°
Thank God for TRZ and these brilliant videos. Vegan cookies good cuz!
Hahaha, Ron 🤣👊👊
So far every tabless cell battery that has been coming out is a big improvement and this one is no different!
Having the blade depth max also puts more strain on the motor/battery
gees..I was laughing so hard at that phone call...very nice.
🤣🤣👊
Looks like the Edge cuts alot straighter! LOL!!!!! Good one 👍 !!!!
“A lot,” two words.
I bought one last week but I want to buy more on Ryobi days
The 2nd two of the three batteries being premium probably had cells that can output higher current than the "cheap" one. And that's probably why it died first. 4 amp/hr is 4 amp/hr . Lower current consumption might let the battery manage it's discharge rate a little better, but I don't think by much. Might make more power in a circular saw with a little less runtime.
My understanding is the hp tools can use the extra power from the edge. Curious if you do get longer run time on the nonhp tools. Overall though standard battray looking real nice like
Any tool can use the extra power to some extent... It's just that HP tools can use it more... especially if they have the extra HP connections. And the Edge batteries will prolly run cooler on any tool too. I'm a fan of HP batteries myself and might upgrade to Edge when it's economically sensible
If I was just looking to have their 8 inch cordless fan run on low for a long time, should I go for the 12ah HP or the new edge battery?
when you said look at it i looked at it😅. i like rye-ob. can't wait try new batt-ray.
Haha, LOOK AT IT!!!!
Almost like Vegan Cheesesteaks Good!!!!! Lmao. Bro this had me laughing so hard. Even the wife who isn’t as knowledgeable about power tools caught the difference in the sounds with the edge. Ryobi must never sleep. Keep up the awesome content.
Yo Clint! Question. To get the extra power effect from the Edge battery, does one have to be using an HP tool? Meaning, the extra power of HP vs standard is if one is using an HP tool. Wondering if it's the same recipe for the Edge. 🤔
Great question Dave. I don't think the kwer I'm the video was an hp, but it was definitely pushing more air. I would say they this will probably run all the tolls a bit harder, ut I'll definitely do more digging into this 👊👊👊👊
Honestly, there is a slight advantage to the EDGE battery. But not enough to make me run out and replace my HP batteries. But I would buy the EDGE batteries from here moving forward with any new tools, just because they are obviously the most powerful option. Also, was that circular saw a gen 2? I'm wandering if all the newer gen 2 tools they announced will take better advantage of that EDGE battery tech.
Thanks for this, I have been looking forward to a heads up challenge regarding these batt-rays. Any chance you could do another but with their OPE ? I have a suspicion that this is where they might shine ?
Sure, and thanks for the comment 👍
@@ToolReviewZone that's why you're the best !!
I can't believe you had a call with that vegan guy, and it didn't take 43 minutes. 😂
He will talk about thise stupid cookies forever if you let him 🙄
One Thing That Really Matters Is The Maturity Of The Battery.
It takes apx 10X's of using & charging the batteries to reach a full power.
I've tested the same old batteries with the same new batteries & this is what I've found.
Stay Encouraged 😜
when will it appear on EU markets?
There's cream in the oreos oh no😮
Thank you for actually comparing the Edge to the HP! Great test.
Love the phone calls 😂
I tried reaching out to him with the calls, but the ball is ow in his court
Stop it, you're killing me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..... Make sure he pronounces the tool correctly.....RYE OOO BEE😆😉
I have been doing ryobi for 13 years, atm have around 30 pieces, do on average a charge a day, sometimes as much as four a day, on average eight batteries, treat them well, EVERY YEAR WITHOUT FAIL I HAVE ONE SOMETIMES TWO FAIL, Keeping the batteries replacment up is a cost that i was not expecting, and every time one fails i question my choice of using RYOBI, TOOLS PRITTY GOOD, BATTERIES SHITTY, In AUSTRALIA, ryobi is around twice the price compaered to USA.
Only use I see for them is for my 10" miter saw. I'll never feel otherwise that it should be a 40v saw.
I think that where extra power is needed the HO Batteries are the way to go. Extra Extra power is needed then the edge has the edge of the Standard HO battery. NO Philly for me!!
I guess I'm the dumb one here, but I thought amp hour meant how many amps it could deliver in a period of time. So if they are all 4 amp hour batteries then I'd expect them to die at about the same time under the same load.
Just as I expected
Have you won the lottray? You've just wasted thousands of dollars worth of timber.
Haha
Ah just means battery power output you can have a massive battery and had just 4ah. Edge battery seems smaller so it's going to last less than the others. Edge battery should last at least same time with a little bit more power. So Ryobi save money making it smaller(less cells) and does selling it expensive offering a little bit more power than others, more profit for them.
Honestly, I think you just proved that the new Edge batteries are a waste of money. The bog standard $99.oo battery got the job done. Took a little longer. It struggled a bit, but it got the job done.... _which is perfectly fine for a DIY/Homeowner power-tool brand._ Seriously, it's Ryobi. It's not Makita, Milwaukee, or specifically DeWalt XR. Amateur DIYer isn't going to care that it's taking a bit longer to complete a home improvement project. Especially if it allows him to get away from the wife for several minutes longer. What you just proved is that the $99.oo battery is good enough. (Also, we all know that you and Vince are friends.)
My wife is right there by my side building, wrenching, and getting it done. She ain't afraid to get her hands dirty. I'm sure others have awesome wives too. Sounds to me someone's a little bitter, $20 more for better performance? I'd say that's a win, considering all the other tool brands that mark up their higher performing batteries way way more then that.
They need to LOWER the STANDARD BATTERIES to About $80 and the HP to $100 and keep the EDGE BATTERY at $129
@@michealrobinson
Sounds to me, someone has a fragile little ego and can only make himself feel better by subtly insulting random strangers on the internet whom he knows nothing about.
It feels like their goal is to make the most products instead of the best.
@@OGWolfofAI
Last I checked, Ryobi has seven string trimmers in their power-tools line-up. Seven!
You do know they are using different cells in all the batteries? The ah is the same but the power delivered will be different. Need to open them up and see what cells they all use. If it's 20 amp 30 amp or 40 amp. That's where they are going to differ. People testing by run time is misleading.
Not sure this is the best way to test these batteries an inverter might be better because you get the same load all the time these tools are putting the extra energy to use instead of running longer.
Reeeeeeee Obie One Kah no beeeeeeeeeeeee
Stiring the pot are we? Lol
I tried to be the better man here and reach out with the phone calls, but unfortunately.... he will use this to hate me ire than he already does I'm afraid 😪
😂😂😂
Extremely long winded. The worst comedy and it’s totally not needed. Won’t be subscribing.