Full iNav setup Matek F411-WSE
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- Full iNav setup for the Matek F411-WSE. Great little FCB with two camera switching and filtered voltage for FPV camera and transmitter. 2 motors and 4 servos. 2 UARTs, 2 Soft Serial
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Thank you, I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I couldn't get my GPS to be recognized by Inav. Thanks to your video I was able to figure it out.
Excellent, that makes the video worth doing
Do you have to plug in a battery to get your gps to light up while connected to the Matekf411? My gps leds on the unit are not on. All solders and connections are great. Please help. Thanks.
@@CoeShow619 yes, that was my issue. Plug in the battery and the gps comes to life
I use auto launch all the time with my Z4....Never fails, and no prop strikes ever....I did pick up one or two tips on your CLI dumps....Thanks Andrew.
I love auto launch especially with wings. I turn the motor delay time down and climb angle up. Motor turns on just after the prop clears my hand so I can use the cutouts on the bottom of the C1.
Thanks Andrew, incredibly helpful.My adventure with the f722se board continues.
So many elements to get across.
Glad to help!
I had issues with my WSE on the factory FW flash, flashed it with the build on the Matek website and worked great. Love the 2 board setups for the calibrations. I am glad to see that you also delete the second motor, and that you hate presets haha.
Yes some of those presets will have caused headaches for new iNav users
Glad I found this one! My first WSE board had one dead uart.
How did you know it was dead? I've been spending HOURS on trying to get my receiver to respond in INAV configurator. I'm wondering if UART 2 is dead?
Why is your gps symbol red during this set up? Does the 411 have to have a battery on it to light up the gps? I’m waiting on a smoke stopper before I try. Last 743 smoked. Wonderful day! Please let me know. I need GPS.
What’s the answer?
awesome buddy you have taken away all the stress of setup thankyou for the upload
Good to hear, best of luck with it.
Very useful review Andrew, thanks for posting. Regards, Pete
My pleasure!
Thenks
You professional.THENKS
I thought with feed forward values less = more movement? I'll have to check this out when I get home...
Thanks for walking us through with your setup!
Thanks Aaron, Increased FF = more control surface movement
Very informative video. I was surprised that you do not enable telemetry. If I am correct, without it, your board will not send telemetry to your receiver, right? I like to record GPS location on my taranis telemetry log. The location helped me a few times to find my downed plane.
Oh is that what it does. I honestly didn't know that, thanks. I'll turn it on and see what is logged.
Thanks Andrew for the detail on this, very useful. When you say 'OLD' boards in reference to the Ports tab, are you refering to the F4 type?
Older than that I think, but dont quote me. Just something I saw in an obscure, buried forum somewhere.
G'Day Andrew, I've just found your video in my travels. I'm looking at setting up an F411-WSE in my wing. I've just got the one question; what GPS module would you recommend using with this FC?
I've gone from Nitro fixed wing to FPV Quadcopters and now, after 5 years or so, i'm trying to get back into it with FPV wings. So i'm a few years behind.
My favourite GPS links in the description
Thanks, Andrew you answered a question that has been bugging me about Airmode.
I wish the devs would remove AIR from the OSD, no need to see it as a mode
Thanks Andrew!!!
Andrew thank you for posting this video. Would you be able to send me the CLI values you are using on the video ? Also, do you have a soldering video on this FC ? Thanks again !!!
CLIs here newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2019/08/inav-cli-dumps.html
Andrew - great video, just moving over from librepilot to inav myself. Mainly because I have just ordered an F765...and iNav seems significantly more powerful (had a play using a cc3d revo - which won't work due to dropped PWM support)
Which made me realise that I need to upgrade fom am older ppm/pwm to an Sbus set up.
Any suggestions for Transmitter and Receiver? I have, as mentioned the F765 and DJI occusync Air Unit as well for this Fixed Wing.
Was thinking Taranis Q X7 but thinking something with 16 channels would be nice...as long as it is something which works well with iNav and the F765 really...?!
My radio is the Q X7 and any FrSKY SBUS receiver (not the ACCESS version), or Radiomaster TX16S if you want to be able to use any receivers
@@AndrewNewton thanks for that.
Do you have a preferred receiver for fixed wing though within the list of sbus frsky units...
Ridable, good range, signal, channels.
Sorry...so many questions...
Saw the Paladin in a search yesterday...any thoughts on it?
Just realised that only 2 days ago you did another post on the Paladin...about to watch it!
Hi Buddy Great info. I'm hoping you can help me with a question. I have just ordered the f411-wing (FC) and I was thinking of putting it in one of my powered gliders. However on the glider the ailerons are joined together with a ( Y CABLE ) and plugged into port 1 on my receiver.
So do I have to remove the Y-Cable and connect each servo separately ?
on can I just leave it and connect the Y-cable to servo 1 on the F411-Wing
Any information you can offer would be appreciated Cheers.
Hi George. Y cable ailerons is fine, no need for separate aileron channels in iNav unless you want flaperons
@@AndrewNewton Thank you. As I have not used the f411 before witch servo port would you recommend for the ailerons Y-cable ( 4 or 5 ) or dose it not matter
Either 4 or 5 is OK as long as the one you choose is set to Stabilised Roll in the mixer page. Just be aware that iNav mixer and the board use different numbers for the servo ports. The board is 3 4 5 6 and the mixer is 2 3 4 5 in my example because I deleted the second motor on S2
@@AndrewNewton Thanks for the info buddy
Hey mate. Do you ever do another calibration once board in plane? Or just muck with the angles always as you showed in this video? I ask as wings fly nose up and the calibration on desk is flat so always concerned on first flight with new board.
Am hoping that the Ardu team will support Chibios on this board as has all the makings for a sub 250gram 4g plane. Not that Australians get to have a sub 250 gram limit as I read the new rules anything thats RPA even if sub 250 has to be registered. Plus Canada thought 5,500 buck fine was bad ours is going to be 10,500. Gone are the days of having the most common scence rules in oz. 😁
Calibrate once then only pitch angle after that.
@@AndrewNewton Cheers had so much on my plate to catch up on so launched 2 models today in acro and both flew beautifully. Inav is such a great addition. Are core flute you say.......... ;-)
Great video. Is there any reason that you have not set up failsafe on a channel(knob) I think i have seen you have done that in an earlyer video. I am trying to set up a F.411-wse in a ft spear With frsky r-xsr and INAV 2.5
Better to set No Pulses on the receiver github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Failsafe
Thank you for the answer. I have seen a video of Paweł Spychalski that he say that you shoud set the failsafe to Hold instead of no pulses when you use frsky SBUS . Do you have tryed this? Video: th-cam.com/video/Gh6i1kyxY6s/w-d-xo.html
Haven't tried Pawel's method, but both will work with FrSKY receivers, iNav interprets it correctly.
I have fried two cameras on my F411wse first one was because I didn’t realise the polarity for camera supply was different from my old F411, transferred cam from that board to this one got smoke from the board on plugging it in, so guessing the board might be knackered as well ? Second cam toasted was when I thought I would try plugging in another cam “correct polarity this time” to check if the board was buggered or not, this is when I realised that the pins for cam 1 supply more than 5v ! I know I only have myself to blame and expensive lesson learned, don’t assume that the pinouts will be the same from one board to another even if they are from the same manufacturer and check voltage before plugging camera in 😢
Ooh nasty. They do keep us on our toes by switching pin positions
Andrew, Would I be able to use this FC and connect Elevator, Rudder, Aileron, and Flaps? I would use Y Harnesses for Aileron and Flaps servos. I know that for my wing it will work but wanted to use the same controller on my FPV glider. Only additional external sensor I would use is the GPS with Compass. FPV gear would be the HD Tramp VTX, Foxeer Toothless 2 on wing, and HD Tramp VTX, RunCam HD2 4K on the glider. Both are powered off a 3S battery. I'll also be running Crossfire for long range. Both are running with Kopilot at the moment but without an OSD on them worries me for long range and not knowing where Home is at. Unless you know of an OSD system that would work with Kopilot this would be the config I would purchase to use iNav. Feedback?
Yes, this is a good choice. Could also look at F405-Wing which is a bit bigger with extra PWM outputs.
@@AndrewNewton I saw that too. Thanks again Andrew.
Hi Andrew, noticed you're using a Mac with iNav. I've been trying to get my iMac to work with iNav but have issues getting it to work. Could you advise on where to get drivers for mac or any advice on how you managed to get it working? Many thanks.
Best to ask the gurus here facebook.com/groups/INAVFixedWing/ I cant remember which drivers were needed, too long ago.
Thank you Andrew, very much appreciated.
Hi Andrew, I'm new to fixed wing, so this info was vital to me as Im using the new f411wse board.. Is there a chance of getting the 'new cli's setup extras' dump so to eliminate any spelling errors? TIA Trevor
Hi Trevor. I have added them to a Google Drive folder here newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2019/08/inav-cli-dumps.html
Please do a follow up showing how to add smartport telemetry (wiring and configuration) -- preferably with a R-XSR ;) As there are only 2 UARTs, it is not at all straightforward.
Also, even though my rx is bound, I cannot get the radio page showing any changes on the sticks. I have AETR on channels 1-4.
This little FC is just the ticket for the Dart 250g wing.
I have not tried SPort throughout the FCB yet, maybe in the future
Did you manage to get telemetry? I tried also with R9mm and I could not.
Yes. use the Ports setup for UART2 and Softserial 2 as shown in the Matek wiki for the F411-WSE. Connect the wiring as shown in the wiring tab i.e. gnd to G, 5v to 4v5, sbus to SBUS, and smartport to TX2 (all 4 connections are adjacent to each other in a row on outside of PCB).
www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=f411-wse#tab-id-4
Make sure the following are defined in CLI:
set serialrx_provider = SBUS
set serialrx_inverted = OFF
set serialrx_halfduplex = OFF
Save
Andrew, another gr8 Video, considering using this board for a Sonics AR Mini wing Build. Are you able to share your CLI and OSD Text files by any chance ? PS, your still in my wife's bad books !!
Haha. Downloadable CLI dumps here newtonairlines.blogspot.com/search/label/iNav%20Basics
They made for me
i want to add a camera on pan and a camera in the tail. so with this FC i can do that sweet i usually use f405 matek but that doesnt have that feature. i must do more research
Any tips on flashing the Matek boards?! Was going to follow this but then discovered I need to flash my board first which can't get working for the life of me!
Issues I've found so far:
1 - It doesn't like the gps being connected.
2 - I had to do the zadig step of replacing the driver. (Top tip, make sure you do this when your flight controller is in the boot loader!)
It now shows as connected in DFU but when I try and flash it says usb opened successfully and then closed successfully but nowt else :(
Which board Dave? I'm using Mac so can't give any useful advice about Windows drivers. If you're desperate you can send the board to me and I'll flash it.
@@AndrewNewton it's the F722 wing board
@@AndrewNewton Sorted! Downloaded version 2.2.1 of the configurator from github and that worked first time! Think I was using the Chrome version before
@@DavePinnock Aha, good to hear. I'm having problems with my F722 wing. Over reacts in Pos hold and RTH modes and I dont know why.
@@AndrewNewton I think there is a maximum pitch angle for return to home. I adjusted mine too much and have a similar problem, it will climb too steeply and keep stalling. That was one thing I was going to change before I had this flashing fun
Hi.. how to setup on inav if we want the plane fly at certain speed, example if the plane will fly with ground speed / air speed at 45 m/h constantly. thank you for your help
Can set cruise throttle level. Dont know about GPS speed, maybe ask the experts over on facebook.com/groups/INAVFixedWing
@@AndrewNewton ok many thanks
Mr Newton
I think I rushed to buy the fc f411 wse, because I wanted to connect the 3DR system to telemetry, and after being very calm, I see no way to connect it because I need free RX and Tx, and uart2 it is for the Sbus and uart1 for the GPS, the soft serials are left, which only have Tx.
I did wrong, didn't I?
I don't know the 3DR system but if it needs a full UART then you do need a different board.
@@AndrewNewton Yes of course! Nextel time I've to BE more careful.
3DR system is a ground station linkage to the air model it gives you the possibelety to update way points wiaerllessly, and configure iNav to! Se can Aldo have online reading the model's positivo on the map!
@@AndrewNewton Hi, Sr Newton
About 3DR radio link, have a looke at this link: th-cam.com/video/XCQz9AeE2qA/w-d-xo.html
I hope you enjoy and became interested as I am!
Regards
Vítor Lalanda
How can I get esc telemetry working with this board? I currently have the following set up:
UART 1 : GPS
UART 2 : RX (SBUS XM+)
Softserial 1 : Smartaudio
Softserial 2 : (all disabled)
What pad on the board is ss2 exactly? And can I make it a softserial rx pad so it can read esc data?
Thanks again for all that you do!
Never tried ESC telemetry sorry
@@AndrewNewton Well because iNav does not (yet) support bidirectional D shot over the signal cable, one must connect the telemetry pad to a RX pad on the FC to enjoy any RPM filtering in the new iNav 2.4.0.
This is why I need another rx pad. Where can I find the soft serial 2 pad on the F411-WSE? Can I switch it from tx to rx?
Is it possible to connect a pi via mavlink to a FC running INav for the purpose of utilizing a 4G Stick to stream live Data from a flight? I've seen pixhawk and ardupilot having Mission control centers that allow live tracking. Can inav do that aswell? I really don't want to go back to ardupilot but I really need a live update of where my plane is for long range flights.
Dont know sorry
inav 4.0.0 armed.when use trottle stick up and down motor not spinning. In my fly sky trans.display trottle line 3 moving . when check motor test for calibration ,motor spinning.battery its ok.matek f 411 wse.
Best ask on the INAV Fixed Wing Facebook group
Hi, great video. Did you try fport with Frsky R9 MM Receiver? I tried a lot of time, but nothing to do. It work only with sbus. Any idea?
Thank's
No I have only used SBUS
Also have the same problem with the same receptor. Did you solve it?
@@Urko76 yes, it works. I flash the receiver with last firmware EU lbt.
Inav param
serialrx_provider = FPORT
serialrx_inverted = ON
serialrx_halfduplex = ON
Connect FPORT on tx1.
On r9mm use the pin next power
do you change rates in the servos/outputs tab or in the PID tuning tab for manual mode? im so confused
Get your plane setup to fly well using 100% rates first.
Without magnetometer just with gps can it work with rtl mode.
Only need to use compass on quads, not recommended for fixed wing. Planes only fly forwards so the GPS can handle direction and RTL etc.
What firmware in INAV is used for the Matek F411 WSE ? They dont list a 411 with WSE , just 411 , or 411SE .
Always have to check on the Matek page before flashing. Or turn the F411 over and read the text.
@@AndrewNewton Matek just got back to me about this , they said use the SE firmware if you have the WSE controller . Thanks Andrew .
matek f411 wse connect fpv transmiter eachine nano vtx first atach -connect antena in transmiter..left to right side wires.. yellow soldering to vtx in matek,red soldering to vbt,black to G.I think so I have smog not working?????
Red needs to go to 5V, not VBat
I'm having issues with mixing. I get can all servos to work, just not at the same time.
Strange. Need more info if you want help
Ok so i set my modell up, and put the nav rth mode on a switch, range is working in the configurator. However when i tested it on the ground with a 10 sat lock it just always says acro mode on my osd when it should be in rth. Is that normal if the model is not flying?
Yes normal, has to be flying and more than some minimum distance away for RTH to activate.
@@AndrewNewton okay, thanks!
So can serial connection for telemetry say to a vista camera go over soft serial?
Yes, there are a few different firmware versions for the F411-WSE to cater for more connections like DJI
Do can setup cam tilt from motor 2 in this flight control? Because i have volantex phoenix S 1600
No. Motor outputs can't be converted to servo control AFAIK
@@AndrewNewton so how to adding cam tilt in 6 signyal in this0 flight control?
Why do you use air mode it seems to be something more related to quads than airplanes I don't see what it does?
Absolutely essential for fixed wing if you ever want to glide with throttle at zero. Air mode means the PIDs are still active on the servos at zero throttle.
my system glider phoenix 2.0m.,matek 411 wse,run cum,transmiter and receiver flysky.eleron connect to use u connector.all system is working now.stabization working.l have free Chanel 5 in matek.how to connect and set up flaps in Inav 4.0 or on this system semply.Thenks
Plug flaps into the F411, add a line in the inav mixer - RC Channel 5, then set up ch5 in your radio as the flaps.
@@AndrewNewton big thenks
hello sir, there doesn't seem to me a target in inav 2.0.0, is it only in 2.0.1?
Most likely. You have to use the iNav firmware that is released after the FCB is released.
Hello, mayb u can help me out. I cant get gps coordinates from the plane showing in taranis radio or crossfire tx. Using ctossfire lite with nano rx and matek f411wse.
Uart 1: gps
Uart 2: serial
Softserial 1: tbs smart audio
Softserial 2: smartport
Dont know what else i need to do.
Or mayb u can send me ur PORT settings in inav
Dont know about crossfire
@@AndrewNewton got it figured out, thankx
Does the osd have an arrow pointing back home?
Yes I always include that in the OSD
need some help - having issue with gps after setting up the gps indicator in inav shows up as red. its wired correct have followed all other inav setup as shown but no luck ?
Assign a UART to GPS in the ports page, Turn GPS on in the config page, Check Total messages is counting up in the GPS page. GPS needs battery to be connected.
Same problem. I know I have the correct setup, I have lots of other FC boards (Matek and others using iNav and Arduplane) but can't get the GPS symbol to turn green!
Also, a 4-pin Dubro connector from the GPS prevents a micro-USB plug from being inserted. Used a 3-pin instead and picked up a ground on the pin below, bad design!
Not that it matters anyway because the board doesn't register the GPS, so cant be used. Waste of money!!
@@gerryw99 ended up being bad connector on gps board soldered direct to board solved the issue
can you tune it in the field? if it has osd tune like betaflight then i want one
It does have Auto trim and Auto tune
hi andrew is it posibke to have your osd setups so i can just paste them in please
No problem it's included in this folder drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v1Mrqu5aA-SYWFqymqW1Yn3jkkmBqtt-
1:57. for me and my aero scout inav setup
How do you setup smartport ?
Video up tomorrow that shows how.
How do u turn off the speed sensor
Deselect it in the OSD setup page
where i can get the SLI codes for wing sir? i fallow evryting in this bidio bot i have no motor arming up
Do you mean iNav files? drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v1Mrqu5aA-SYWFqymqW1Yn3jkkmBqtt-
@@AndrewNewton This is awesome .. thnx Andrew for sharing this !
I have the 411wse with the latest firmwares inav 4.0 but dont get all the flight modes?
Which modes are missing?
@@AndrewNewton cruz horizon angle
@@dalovehall Unhide unused modes? Make sure GPS is enabled
@@AndrewNewton thanks for responding yes the gps was off 🤦
@@dalovehall That should only hide the nav modes, not angle and horizon. But great you have it sort
I think your inav configurator is old (unupdated)
I'm on 2.2.1
16:39 set small_angle+180