Brand new here to Ardu & the Matek F405 wing. This video made me feel much more comfortable in my attempt to add the 405 & Ardu to my Ritewing Mini Drak. (Cant wait to het her in the air) This system seems to get a lot of luv and videos like this are why. 🎯 Thanks for putting this together for folks like me that are new to the hobby. Great stuff & gained a " SUB!" 😎 Best Stashman-FPV
hi. thanks I have done it. but know I am facing an other problem. I have 6 channel CT6B transmitter. and software shows the channel 8 for changing the flight modes. so I want to change it in channel 5 or 6. plz help about change it. I already change it in full param and trees param. but it came again 8. so how to save it?
Thank you for the detailed video. I have been interested in ArduPlane but could not find a step/step video. The tips on why you do things a certain way will help much. Hopefully this winter I will get it setup on my NanoTalon. Also a new subscriber Thanks roger
Nice video, thanks for sharing it. This is also the very first video where I see someone showing how to calibrate the ESC once in the plane! I had not figured out how to calibrate it and now I know. I had had to calibrate my ESC outside the plane with a different receiver but will try your method now. Thanks!
LOL I love your balance weight at 4:25, that's my kind of thinking. I had a F405 in my Tundra running iNav and they are amazing little boards, this particular one survived three months stuck in a tree last winter without issues.
Mine survived 2 months in the top of tree until a windy day came along without leaves. ARwing was destroyed and hatch open but No water damage and worked fine lol.
Neat, informative, pleasant to watch and wonderful as always... I would recommend to use a wifi to uart. I have just bought 5 of them and they work pretty nice with both Matek F405 and pixhawk.
Thank you! :) I have seen these modules, but since I am now trying to get the telemetry working over the DragonLink system... still think I might do without them, although they would be useful during setup, as they do remove 1 additional component on the laptop side! :)
That is a function of the firmware, right? Or is there a hardware dependency? I know there is some drama about using CRSF with Ardu... but don't really know the details as I don't have Crossfire.
Thanks for the video! I didn't realize that you needed to be in boot loader mode to load the firmware. Enter boot load by holding down the small button while plugging in the USB to the Matek board.
I get "no response from bootloader" when i click flash, if i didn't hold down the button while plugging in usb. If i hold down the button while plugging to USB, i click flash, i get "initiating rebooting to boatloader" forever. ahhh
this helps to flash it successfully. now my pc doesn't have the right driver for matek f450 -.- www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2825851-Beta-Flight-No-response-from-the-bootloader-programming-failed
Thank you for your detailed explanation. You have made the process simple and logical. Is the T2 pin still used for telemetry back to a Taranis? I use the audio function to give me voltage altitude etc.
Yes, I think the T2 can still be used for that, but you will need to adjust that parameter in the pull parameter list, because by default it is set to Mavlink!
I remember when there were only 2 switches. I'm trying to imagine any child, anywhere, even with the help of his Dad, or the combined efforts of every Dad within a 1 mile radius, ever having successfully achieved, any form of enjoyment associated with the flight of an RC aircraft, over the distance of 60' without having taken at least a month of intensive study, mind bending levels of patience, focus and determination, without being pushed to the brink of sanity and giving up. I myself, have been at it for over a year, spent 100's and 100's of dollars and haven't flown an inch. I came here today to see how you installed the F-405 flight controller, assuming all I needed to see was how the power runs from the battery to the motor and the FC. I can only conclude that this is clearly an insidious plot by the Chinese to confuse, distract and ultimately bring the Western world to it's knees... lol, well it appears they may have underestimated the will of the British to persevere. I hope to return and continue the fight with what I pray will be a full recovery at the nearest RAF hospital. =D
Fingers crossed mate! I hope that too! Actually it is not that complicated, just needs some getting used to! Some of these are pretty simple to install, program and operate!
To make the auto takeoff site independent, just put an RTL command after takoff. Well that's irrelevant now, since there is a dedicated takoff flight mode which enables you to have both auto takeoff and later on a separate auto mission. Just my 5c.
Great video thanks, this is my first build and trying to follow you step by step. I flashed my f405-wing with inav and connect to mission planner did first calibrations as you did, I'm now trying to connect runcam micro swift 3 and tx200u video transmitter to board runcam has no direction for me on f405-wing. Can you help?
Well, there are a number of ready-to-fly options that you can buy from name brand companies which have beginner friendly stabilization systems in them, which will help you learn how to fly. Meanwhile you can learn about the more DIY options and increase your knowledge.
Trying to setup ArduPlane for the first time after getting fairly handy with INAV. I disarmed the compass like you show and rebooted but I still get the message "bad compass health"
Hello! please help with the V Tail. in stabilization mode everything works well and in manual mode it deviates incorrectly, in the radio calibrate also does not work to fix this problem. Полетный контроллер Matek h743. MP version 1.3.74
If it works correctly in stabilization, and not from the radio, then you have to reverse some channel in the radio probably, to get it working! Usually that is how it works for me!
I flashed it and did everything but mission planner and betaflight arent recognizing it, however it does let me reflash it if i start it in dfu mode. What do I do???
For a smaller plane with less stuff, like a micro skyhunter, can you just solder the wires directly to the board and forget about installing the header pins? Thanks for the video!
Thank You very much for a very instructive Video. I’m planning to use the FC along with my DJI Ocysync AIR system which fortunately has an Sbus on the video link receiver and therefore enable to use my X10S express in Slave Mode with a cable connection to my DJI Google’s ( in other words both control and video signal via the Google’s). Can you tell me exactly from which pin the OSD signal from the Matek F405 goes ? The DJI Ocysync has an inputwire for that purpose so all the information can be displayed in the Goggles. My Best Regards Kim/DK
Hey, what kind of signal does that system expect? Mavlink, or video? Because the OSD is actually overlaid in the flight controller on the analogue video signal, and then it puts out a video signal complete with the OSD overlay. I don't think the DJI system would be able to use that. Alternatively, it may need some data stream with the needed information, which would be Mavlink, however I am not certain if DJI supports that protocol.
Sorry but yes planes should use a compass with Ardu. I know, everything you've read says dont use a compass. What it is supposed to say is " Dont use internal compass. Only use a compass from your GPS." I know some will disagree and argue but it will make a huge diffrence to your setup. There is to much documentation for the coders to change but they are the ones that gave me this information and have it setup on their planes. But only use an external Compass. You can change your switch channel by changing the FLTMODE-CH from 5 to whatever switch you want in the Advanced tab. I'm not going to argue the compass thing you can either use it for better flights or not. Hope this helps some out there 😁
Yeah, sure, you can change that, but especially for beginners, it will be easier to keep things simple to start with! As for the compass... actually I have not read or being told not to use it!!!! ALL of this... everything I say and do, is a result of experience! Sometimes of painfully tedious and frustrating experience, dealing with compasses! Actually when I flashed the ArduPlane firmware to the F405 Wing... the compass was disabled by default, and in fact... I have been flying without a compass on my planes for years now... and have yet to see a major issue, especially for pure FPV flying! It can be argued that it is useful if you do a lot of autonomous missions... but just for flying... really don't see the point! GPS direction is perfectly adequate as a plane never sits still so there is always movement to help calculate the direction!
@@ArxangelRC nearly all the documentation for ardu and many YT channels wrongly say not compass on fix wing needed. Instead of what development team say which is dont use internal compass use gps compass. And after years of ardu and using a compass now it makes a big diffrence for long range flights.
brother could you please tell me if matek f405 wing and f405 WTE have any difference? like should i order any and they work the same or do they have significant differnce
Yes! In Mission Planner go to Full Parameter Tree, expand the AHRS sub-tree, and in there you will see AHRS_TRIM_Y and AHRS_TRIM_X. You need those values to adjust the autopilot's position relative to the plane, if its not perfectly aligned! To the right you will see an explanation of each parameter and what value does what!
@@ArxangelRC One more question , have you made a video how to set up different flight modes on Mission planner, mama right now all I have is manual mode stabilize mode and return to home , would like to add cruise , auto trim and auto tune
@@jimmytheriot8978 Hi, I have not done a video like that, mainly because I do not setup 2 mixed switches that actually allow for this, as I find it a bit too confusing, since I fly a different plane every other week, and this would be a nightmare! A rotary 6 pos switch also works, if you have it, otherwise you can search for such an instructional on youtube, I am sure somebody has done it!
Nice Tutorial, I gave up using Ardupilot when iNAV came along...That said, I can see why you like it given your terrain and type of missions you do....Did you film the flying recently?...our weather has shut us down, while you still appear to have calm sunny days..?
Yes, weather has been very good around here recently... has allowed me to get some flying done in very good conditions... but then one of the days I started the flight in dead calm... and ended it in 50+ km/h winds... where the plane was easily sitting in one place against the wind! I rarely do Auto missions... unless it is for those test hearts to see if everything is working as it should... but the terrain following capability it pretty awesome and the code has been super reliable for me over the years!
Hello Sir, your video is great. I was just wondering if you can connect this controller to a ground station with a telemetry radio and control it with the ground station? Thankyou.
Yes, you should be able to do anything you can with a regular Pixhawk or a Cube, and as far as I know, control via the telemetry link is possible, though I've never really tried it myself.
Well i keep everything of my APM pro in the rear FC bay, and the inner wall has those wire organiser channel so my Clouds inner belly wasn't messy like yours 😏
My autopilot was back there as well... but there were so many mods to the wiring over the years... that it just got looking like that! It was horrible!
No prior experience with ArduPlane, I've finally decided to start using the F405 Wing bought 2 years ago. I'm wondering if the procedures remain the same after 3 years?
Without connections? That would depend on the autopilot used... but sometimes when I power everything up... I would simply unplug the ESC power only, throttle up, plug it in (after you've made sure throttle is working of course), when it beeps throttle down... DONE!
All settings done!!!!! Now Wiring the gps??? How to know gps is working?? The data says no gps!!! The matek 405 wing official site wiring is not working for me
Glad you got the camera working! As for the motor... that sounds like a timing issue... the ESC is losing sync after the RPM gets that high! Change the timing settings on the ESC, if possible, or try a different ESC, and see if it improves the situation!
Does not need to be connected to a battery, and the DFU button is needed only during the initial flashing with ArduPilot in the iNav or Betaflight configurator.
Yes, it does work, I have connected one to it... just plug it where indicated and it should work right away... hardly feel like it deserves a whole video on its own... but might mention it in the F765 Wing video! :)
Make sure main control channels (1-4) are setup properly - Ail, Ele, Thr, Rud, and if using on a plane setup a 3-pos switch to ch 8. This is about enough for most cases.
@@mukundgirgaonkar2072 Well... as usual the most important part of any wireless system is the antenna, so you can easily get 20kms out of 100mW modules, prodived you have very good antennas both on the ground and in the air! I have not really spent much time deaping with telemetry modules myself, generally have used the integrated telemetry capabilities of the DragonLink system I use, but since it is also a control system, I've never had to use Mavlink to control the aircraft. One option is something like this - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeJCWDr - which has an option for 1000mW output power, which is quite a lot, and with some custom antennas it should give you a good range! Another option are the RFD modules - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Detjhct - but they are pricey, though they seem to be quite popular in industry! In any case I believe you will also benefit a lot from an antenna tracker - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnMnVLX - just to make sure the antenna is pointed at the plane at all times.
@@ArxangelRC - thanks for replying. It turned out to be a bad TBS Tracer receiver. Put in a ELRS and it worked fine. But now, when I use left eleven, the ailerons move, and when I move ailerons, the elevons move. How do I make changes (is this the reverse function under Servo_?
@@AllAroundTube50 What kind of plane is it? You have to move the channels around in the radio it seems. If I am understanding this correct, your ailerons move the elevator and vice versa?
I have a Matek Systems F405-Wing flight controller... When fail safe takes place the plane flaps get activated and come down. Any suggestions on how to disable flaps from activating during fail safe? Taranis radio, ardupilot firmware with mission planner
Run the signal for the flaps directly from your receiver... or change the options for those outputs in Mission Planner from "Flaps" to "Pasthru" whatever channel controls them on your radio!
Have not payed attention to that... but it does show 0.6A when sitting idle... which I still find hard to believe since that is almost 15W... that is a lot of heat... and nothing is heating up that much!!!!
Awesome video as always.i have set my 405wing with ardupilot everything working from following your video but keeps saying no gps all plugged in correctly just cannot get a GPS fix outside
Awesome video! I learned a lot watching it. Can the 405 also be used by Adruplane for live-flight data using a laptop and change modes in flight using that long range telemetry? (using 433/915mHz)
@@faraazbaig2059 Telemetry module sets are being sold left and right, most of them even would come with compatible wiring. Just plug the air unit in the telemetry port on the controller, ground unit to the laptop, select the correct com and baud rate and click connect, should be easy as that!
Be careful flying in strong wind without an airspeed sensor and compass disabled. I’ve found an issue. Lost a mini talon and nearly lost the nano talon. I’ve enabled compass and it seems to be more stable.
I have tons of fun flying in strong winds, and I've never had an issue due to the lack of an airspeed sensor or a compass! But that is my personal experience, not forcing anybody to do it like that... just showing you how I am doing it!
@@ArxangelRC I know you do. A lot of people do. I thought it was something I had wrong in my config but I lost a Mini Talon using pixhawk 4 mini and almost lost a Nano Talon on the F405 Wing due to the same problem. Andrew Tridgell (one of the lead developers for Ardupilot) looked at my logs. Just something to keep in the back of your head. I wish I didn't "need" a compass because I love the BN-220 gps.
@@NoFlyDrone Its really hard to make people understand it was never ment to say no compass just no internal compass for planes. Cause they have compensated for it over time. But if they tried an external they'd see the benefits. As you know for years I thought no compass till I found out that was wrong and all the development team corrected me as they all use compasses. It's the one problem of so much documentation.
Well... might give it a try on some plane... that will easily have it away from power wires and interference... otherwise it is just a pain in the A** for me!
Youve been my go to for ardupilot. Can you tell me where to connect the S-Port from R9 slim+? And will it let you use Yappa script? (spelling prob wrong)
To be honest... I am not sure, if I had to guess I would say that would be Tx2, since Rx2 is the SBUS in, Tx2 should be the Sport thing... but you also have to set it in the parameters I think! I have never tried this, so talking in theory right now!
I tried the ESC calibration the way you did and it all worked well the motor spinned all was good; however when I unplugged the battery and plugged again then armed the board the motors did not react to throttle movement. Do I need to save anything after I calibrate the motors the way you showed?
Not really... it should all be saved to the ESCs when you throttle down and hear the confirmation beeps from the ESCs! After that if you raise the throttle, they should react accordingly!
@@ArxangelRC Thanks for quick reply. I've spent few hours looking through forums and I am close to solving my problem. It seems i am getting only first three beeps when connecting the battery but no initialized beeps appear at the end, this leads me to thinking that there is something wrong with my DSHOT / ONESHOT parameters which prevent from initializing the ESC which I need to find out how. Also I already found that my left and right motors should be assigned to separate channels. I had them both on one channel. Hope I fix it sometime soon
Well... I don't see a problem with them being on 1 channel... but the F405 Wing does provide two separate channels for this... so might as well use them! :) Do you have iNav on this? Have not dealt with Dshot on ArduPlane... but Dshot does NOT require ESC calibration... that's the whole idea of it!
@ArxangelRC oh alright thank you so much. I am using a new product in the RC market, the SIYI products precisely the FT24 and their receiver and module, the FR20 and the FM30 respectively. They promise telemetry. Have you worked with them before?
Hi there, sorry to be a pain but I'm setting up a f405 wing and want to use an l9r Reciever, do i connect the rssi pin on the l9r to the rssi pin on the 405? and then configure it the same as you did with the r9?? Thanks In advance and I love your channel
I put the GPS right behind the canopy at the top of the fuselage, but on the inside! As for the antenna... get one of those mini stubby ones and put it right behind the wheel... thingy... should keep it generally protected... or you can put it around the wheel spot, in that recess... should be OK!
Very informative video. You may have answered this question somewhere else but just thought to ask here. Now that the F405 can run both iNAV or ArduPlane, what's your preference for a beginner like me. I had a lil bit of play with ArduPlane on a Pixhawk 2 years back building an F450 type quad.
Thanks! Well... not sure really! I think absolute beginners might find it easier to work with iNav because of the more involved GUI setup... although Ardu has made great progress in this field in recent months... but is still lacking in the way of ease of use when it comes to newcomers! For a plane, I definitely prefer Ardu, even if it is a bit more work to get to know it!
Hi Arxangel. Please neegd help from heaven!!! I am setting a Matek F405 for a minitalon. The issue is i cant arm the FC unless i unable the Arming _Required to 0. I did flash and setup orher Matek F405 for Dolphing, C1 chaser , Ritewing without any issue. I calibrate the ESC many times, change the ESC. Reflush Ardupilot 3 times starting for scratch all the setup in this video.Uncheck all the arming cheks. Read the ardupilot many times. Etc. Cant arm the FC using the ruder stick. Any suggestion? Thanks !!!
A reversed rudder channel perhaps? When you try to arm it while connected to the computer, what error message does it show up on the HUD as to why it wouldn't arm?
good stuff Arx! always something new to learn. What are your thoughts/experience with messing around with MIXING_GAIN and AUTOTUNE_LEVEL >6? I've got a Matek F405 on a small Z-84 wing and I've been unable to get it to feel snappy and agile like my Eagle Tree Vector planes... Cheers
@@LDD21 Well... few things... you need to arm the model before you would see throttle moving in the "Servo Output" tab. Are all other channels working?
Have a question. Why did you choose a omnibusF4 to flash the F405wing??? I have installed the most recent Betaflight 10.6.0 and there’s no Matek F405 wing in the menu. Can you help me?
I did not chose anything! Essentially the F405 Wing is detected as an opmnibus, but since I am installing a custom firmware that I load locally from my computer... what that dropdown says is irrelevant! I select the file from my computer, that dropdown is only when flashing to Betaflight and letting the system download the file automatically from their server! F405 Wing is not supported by Betaflight as it is a plane controller, not a copter one!
@@ArxangelRC yes sir, my motor test is blacked out. Esc tone when i connect battery but no motor test. Not sure if i have motor set. channel one is throttle, next is empty, then elevon right and thne eleven right. this is a matekf405 wing setup.
Hi. I saw your video that is very useful. I want to ask that i have the ct6b transmitter which has the channels only. And software show the flight mode channel 8. So i want to change in channel five. Param trees also shows the flight mode channel 8. And full param alao show flight mode channel 8. I changed it but not saved properly. So please make the short video for how to change it.
To be honest I have never changed the mode switch channel... have always used channel 8, but I have seen this channel mapping in the full param list... and I can't see a reason why changing it there wouldn't work! Do you have anything else setup on channels 5 or 6 in the radio or on the Autopilot?
@@ArxangelRC i use R9m Slim + for receiver, so for wiring, i just plug s.port from receiver to Smartport on Matek F405, and setup configuration at 14:10 is it right?
@@dekiaza F405 does not have an S.port... it can have the telemetry port programmed to output FrSky telemetry data. What I describe at 14:10 is how to setup RSSI, which is not the same as telemetry! I've never setup FrSky telemetry on ArduPlane myself, only heard of people doing it... so I can't be certain... but in Mission Planner, in the Full Parameter List tab you will have to find the Serial port that is setup for the Mavlink telemetry, since I am assuming you have connected the R9 Slim's S.Port to that same output on the F405, and in there on the right you will see listed more options for this port, in addition to Mavlink! I think one of the options was the FrSky Telemetry, so input the number it is given on the left, and write params, then power cycle the FC... and if all is good and there are no addition steps to be taken... this should do it! But again... this is only from what I've noticed while looking around Mission Planner, am not certain it will work so easily since I've never done it, but you can give it a try nonetheless! :)
Yes, they are... but not exactly! Industrial grade still use Cubes... and they do not have anything integrated... but luckily the new MFD TeleFlyTiny will soon be able to take in Mavlink and display all of its data, in addition to still sending the tracking data to the ground, which will replace the Minim for those systems that still require an external OSD, and that is very good news because the MFD OSD is absolutely awesome!
ArxangelRC i have an old (2.4.8) pixhawk AND a Rpi ZERO driven Erle-brain . pixhawk only flew once and Erle never got the software running. and now its beyond support:-( shame because they are nice but tech changes sooo fast
Need some help here again, please. I installed the Matek405 wing on my Albabird with Arduplane and on maiden (in FBWA) have lost throttle power after about 10 seconds of taking off, coming to a gentle stabilized descent and landed. This has repeated itself 3 times, but in the 3rd time when it was close to the ground I powered up again and it responded, shot up back in the air and I circled around gaining altitude for landing closer to where I was. It was very fast and the turn angle was not high enough so I lost control and crashed. Anyway, the throttle behavior was erratic, to say the least. I was using a brand new fully charged 4S1P li-ion (balanced, IR of cells about 20) in the first two take-offs and changed to another new identical battery for the 3rd flight as I couldn't think of anything else. I'm using the recommended tiny 30A ESCs on the recommended 3 bladed 7 in props, with Sunnysky 980kv motors (maybe on the underpowered side but I'm here for endurance, not to win any race). What I did do differently from your instructional set up video was using a Y-harness for the ESCs signal and ground and only used the S1 pin and ground for the two ESCs (instead of using S1 and S2 for each motor). Would it have anything to do with it? Can you guys think of anything else for me to troubleshoot once I get it out of the tree? Many thanks.
Well this sounds weird! Do you do auto take off, or just put the plane in FBWA, throttle up and throw it? Don't see how a battery would have anything to do with it, or the autopilot settings! Is this the only plane you fly with this radio? Has it done this on other models?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, flown with this radio in the last 3 years 9XRPro with XJT module and brand new L9R rx. Take off in FBWA, not Auto. How about using Y harness in S1 for ESC signal and ground, instead of each ESC plugged separately in S1 and S2 Would that be and issue?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, I finally figured it out! The recomended ESCs had a strange factory setting and throttle wasn't linear, and seemed to be entering calibration mode. It wasn't until a friend lent me his BLHeli USB programming stick I figured it out. It was the first time I ever calibrated an ESC via computer as I'm not a quad guy. Those ESC are super tiny and light and do the job well, but a bit of fiddling with software downloads, USB and all. Learning with every crash...
Arx flew mine today and everything was great did u have to change any thing for the Mah used just want to make sure I’m getting the true read out for Mah used in my Osd
Great news then! Well done! No, I have not changed anything, but the stock params are showing about 5-7% lower current than it actually is, and just a tad higher voltage than it really is! Have not tried to adjust them yet.
I'm building an AR Wing with this FC. On the bottom plate of the FC, there are the current settings to use for proper voltage and mAh usage. I've not flown or fully tested yet, but so far look like good values
Hey Nikola :) I have just finally gotan analogueairapeed sensor for Ardupiloton my F405STD board. Its got 5v and GND but where on earth do I solder the other wire? Is it meant for a signal pad somewhere, or does it go on the RSSI pad like I swear I have read somewhere? Hope you cn help me out. Thanks mate. Happy flying!
Hey... I am not sure how this is supposed to be wired... let alone on that board! I've never wired an airspeed sensor, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that it DOES NOT go on the RSSI pad! I would look for a serial port Rx input somewhere... that should be able to accept the Tx from the sensor! Which one though... I do not know!
@@ArxangelRC thanks mate. Yeah I am a bit confused. A guy on rcgroups with the same board and sensor claimed it goes on rssi pad and needs pin 15 set in parameters. I also found info on diydrones and other forums saying it needs pin 15, but they claim that it needs a 6.6v ADC input, (whatever that is). I cant see an adc pad on the board, but I know rssi is 3.3v right? Maybe thats it? I tried it last night in a calibration flight and it seemed to work once it was flying in loiter. The wind made it behave weirdly in fbwa, maybe i have to autotune it all again now I have airspeed input? Its meant to help a lot with high winds and sticking to mission tracks accurately. Time will tell haha.. Thanks for your reply my friend. Happy flying! Chase those clouds :)
Hm... the RSSI pin is an input only pin, as far as I can tell... so it doesn't output any voltage... it is looking for a voltage input from the RSSI pin on a receiver... I cannot see the logic of the airpseed sensor being connected there!!!! I could be wrong though... I am not familiar with this board!
@@ArxangelRC flashed V4.2 for bdshot, turned on GPS(5) detection on all free protocols, turned on only external compass detection, there were some other manipulations, but this solved the problem. I did not have to solder)) Thank you!!!
@@FLY_WD_RAGHIL Well... I have never used a compass on a plane, never connect it to the flight controller even IF the GPS unit has one... so can't really say what could be the issue! Is this a new GPS unit you are using, or an old one? Could it be it might be damaged... the compass portion I mean... or a cold solder somewhere?
Thank you for making these videos. I just maidened my mini talon with arduplane and everything went very well. Made the jump to ARDUPLANE very easy.
Awesome, glad to hear it! :)
Brand new here to Ardu & the Matek F405 wing. This video made me feel much more comfortable in my attempt to add the 405 & Ardu to my Ritewing Mini Drak.
(Cant wait to het her in the air)
This system seems to get a lot of luv and videos like this are why. 🎯
Thanks for putting this together for folks like me that are new to the hobby.
Great stuff & gained a " SUB!" 😎
Best
Stashman-FPV
Thanks mate, appreciate the kind words! Yes, the F405 Wing is one of the good ones, and it has proven itself in numerous situations already! :)
Thank you so much. Just started my F405 project as well. Very helpful.
Good luck! :)
hi. thanks I have done it. but know I am facing an other problem. I have 6 channel CT6B transmitter. and software shows the channel 8 for changing the flight modes. so I want to change it in channel 5 or 6. plz help about change it. I already change it in full param and trees param. but it came again 8. so how to save it?
These informations are so helpful! Im building mine now and this will help me so much! Thank you!!!!
I am glad it is helpful! Good luck!
Thank you for the detailed video. I have been interested in ArduPlane but could not find a step/step video. The tips on why you do things a certain way will help much. Hopefully this winter I will get it setup on my NanoTalon. Also a new subscriber Thanks roger
Awesome! Glad you found it useful! :)
Nice video, thanks for sharing it. This is also the very first video where I see someone showing how to calibrate the ESC once in the plane! I had not figured out how to calibrate it and now I know. I had had to calibrate my ESC outside the plane with a different receiver but will try your method now. Thanks!
Cool, glad I can help! :)
LOL I love your balance weight at 4:25, that's my kind of thinking. I had a F405 in my Tundra running iNav and they are amazing little boards, this particular one survived three months stuck in a tree last winter without issues.
Damn! That is impressive... and mostly because you had the guts to mount it on a plane again and use it! :D
Mine survived 2 months in the top of tree until a windy day came along without leaves. ARwing was destroyed and hatch open but No water damage and worked fine lol.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. There is so much to know to get arduplane working.
You are welcome mate! :)
Thank you I finally got mine working :) after watching this video.
Awesome! Good luck! :)
Neat, informative, pleasant to watch and wonderful as always... I would recommend to use a wifi to uart. I have just bought 5 of them and they work pretty nice with both Matek F405 and pixhawk.
Thank you! :)
I have seen these modules, but since I am now trying to get the telemetry working over the DragonLink system... still think I might do without them, although they would be useful during setup, as they do remove 1 additional component on the laptop side! :)
Thank You! Especially the parts about RSSI setup and not going backwards on autolaunch..
You are welcome! :)
Awesome setup tutorial, thanks for producing these type of videos.
Thank you! You are welcome! :)
You laid that out so well. Seemed like I knew it all along! But didn't 😀
Hahaha, thank you! Seems a bit messy to me... but I am glad you like it!
Hey friend! How can you put the board pointed the arrow to its tail? I'd like to arrange the wires on its nose. Thank you.
Yes, you can! Just have to change the board orientation parameter in the settings to YAW 180.
@@ArxangelRC
AHRS_ORIENTATION = 4
..Thank you. LoL
Weeeeell... don't know the exact number, but it should do the trick! :)
why doesn't Ardupilot software flash the firmware by itself, and has to use Betaflight or Inave to do it ?
I have used this controller for Ardupilot it works great!!
Good to know! :)
Hey nice vid, does this support crsf protocol for control? I'm using it with arduplane and elrs
That is a function of the firmware, right? Or is there a hardware dependency? I know there is some drama about using CRSF with Ardu... but don't really know the details as I don't have Crossfire.
@@ArxangelRC I did some research, crsf relies on uart so to my knowledge you can use crsf as long as your board supports in and you have enough uarts.
@@bspec3068 Right... well in that case it should work, but I don't use Crossfire... so can't really tell you much!
ELRS is supported now in the latest ardu Firmware
Thanks for the video! I didn't realize that you needed to be in boot loader mode to load the firmware. Enter boot load by holding down the small button while plugging in the USB to the Matek board.
Well... usually the configurator would restart the board in that mode automatically when you start to flash it!
I get "no response from bootloader" when i click flash, if i didn't hold down the button while plugging in usb.
If i hold down the button while plugging to USB, i click flash, i get "initiating rebooting to boatloader" forever. ahhh
this helps to flash it successfully. now my pc doesn't have the right driver for matek f450 -.-
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2825851-Beta-Flight-No-response-from-the-bootloader-programming-failed
My f405 just arrived last week! Amazing FC and great Video
Thank you! :)
Thank you for your detailed explanation. You have made the process simple and logical. Is the T2 pin still used for telemetry back to a Taranis? I use the audio function to give me voltage altitude etc.
Yes, I think the T2 can still be used for that, but you will need to adjust that parameter in the pull parameter list, because by default it is set to Mavlink!
I remember when there were only 2 switches. I'm trying to imagine any child, anywhere, even with the help of his Dad, or the combined efforts of every Dad within a 1 mile radius, ever having successfully achieved, any form of enjoyment associated with the flight of an RC aircraft, over the distance of 60' without having taken at least a month of intensive study, mind bending levels of patience, focus and determination, without being pushed to the brink of sanity and giving up.
I myself, have been at it for over a year, spent 100's and 100's of dollars and haven't flown an inch. I came here today to see how you installed the F-405 flight controller, assuming all I needed to see was how the power runs from the battery to the motor and the FC.
I can only conclude that this is clearly an insidious plot by the Chinese to confuse, distract and ultimately bring the Western world to it's knees... lol, well it appears they may have underestimated the will of the British to persevere. I hope to return and continue the fight with what I pray will be a full recovery at the nearest RAF hospital. =D
Fingers crossed mate! I hope that too! Actually it is not that complicated, just needs some getting used to! Some of these are pretty simple to install, program and operate!
@@ArxangelRC Thanks for the encouragement and valuable source of info.
@@burtpanzer You are welcome mate! :)
To make the auto takeoff site independent, just put an RTL command after takoff. Well that's irrelevant now, since there is a dedicated takoff flight mode which enables you to have both auto takeoff and later on a separate auto mission. Just my 5c.
Cool! Still have not read up on that! :)
who the f idiot who clicked the dislike button for good comprehensive guide video like this!
Well... I don't expect he will admit! :P
Great video, always well explained - purchased via your link :)
Thank you! :) I am glad it is useful!
Great video thanks, this is my first build and trying to follow you step by step. I flashed my f405-wing with inav and connect to mission planner did first calibrations as you did, I'm now trying to connect runcam micro swift 3 and tx200u video transmitter to board runcam has no direction for me on f405-wing. Can you help?
No direction?
I want to make this types of plane but i have no idea,or knowledge , how to make this any suggestion how to do
Well, there are a number of ready-to-fly options that you can buy from name brand companies which have beginner friendly stabilization systems in them, which will help you learn how to fly. Meanwhile you can learn about the more DIY options and increase your knowledge.
very helpful, and nice neat soldering
Thanks! :)
homaigod finally there's GUI for the OSD settings
Yeah, it has been out for a few months now! :)
Trying to setup ArduPlane for the first time after getting fairly handy with INAV. I disarmed the compass like you show and rebooted but I still get the message "bad compass health"
Ignore them... sometimes that happens... it is annoying... but it doesn't make a difference for the performance of the firmware!
Could you plz tell how to connect the matek 765 to smartport X8R for yappu telemetry
What is yappu telemetry?
Could always run four wires for two tail servos and combine the hot and cold and keep the pwm different. Instead of like six wires.
Right... thus making my wiring job even more difficult! I think I'll pass!
I love the rock ballast. NOW it's finished lol
Hahahahahaha, well... had to work with that I had at hand!
Hello! please help with the V Tail. in stabilization mode everything works well and in manual mode it deviates incorrectly, in the radio calibrate also does not work to fix this problem. Полетный контроллер Matek h743. MP version 1.3.74
If it works correctly in stabilization, and not from the radio, then you have to reverse some channel in the radio probably, to get it working! Usually that is how it works for me!
I flashed it and did everything but mission planner and betaflight arent recognizing it, however it does let me reflash it if i start it in dfu mode. What do I do???
What did you flash it with?
I have a 3 wire ESC , but the S1 and S2 connections on the flight controller only 2 . Where do I plug it in ?
You need to remove the red cable from the servo pin!!!! Do not connect it to the board! Remove it and isolate it, so that it doesn't touch anything!
If it does not go in dfu .hit connect it will go to cli type dfu and hit enter
:)
For a smaller plane with less stuff, like a micro skyhunter, can you just solder the wires directly to the board and forget about installing the header pins? Thanks for the video!
Yes, you can!
Ardupilot looks so cool with telemetry. Do you have any video tutorial how to activate telemetry on F4 ardupilot with fport connection?
Not really... sorry! Not a user of the Fport stuff!
hey is it possible to convert a speedybee f4 v4 quad FC to a wing fc as there is a arduplane official firmware available for thet fc ?
If there is an Arduplane firmware available for this board, it will work, just flash it. There is no conversion that is needed.
Thank You very much for a very instructive Video. I’m planning to use the FC along with my DJI Ocysync AIR system which fortunately has an Sbus on the video link receiver and therefore enable to use my X10S express in Slave Mode with a cable connection to my DJI Google’s ( in other words both control and video signal via the Google’s).
Can you tell me exactly from which pin the OSD signal from the Matek F405 goes ? The DJI Ocysync has an inputwire for that purpose so all the information can be displayed in the Goggles. My Best Regards Kim/DK
Hey, what kind of signal does that system expect? Mavlink, or video? Because the OSD is actually overlaid in the flight controller on the analogue video signal, and then it puts out a video signal complete with the OSD overlay. I don't think the DJI system would be able to use that. Alternatively, it may need some data stream with the needed information, which would be Mavlink, however I am not certain if DJI supports that protocol.
@@ArxangelRC Thank You for Your time to answer my question. I will dig deeper in the subject to look for a solution 😊
@@MrEasy4000 I hope you figure it out!
Sorry but yes planes should use a compass with Ardu. I know, everything you've read says dont use a compass. What it is supposed to say is " Dont use internal compass. Only use a compass from your GPS." I know some will disagree and argue but it will make a huge diffrence to your setup. There is to much documentation for the coders to change but they are the ones that gave me this information and have it setup on their planes. But only use an external Compass.
You can change your switch channel by changing the
FLTMODE-CH
from 5 to whatever switch you want in the Advanced tab.
I'm not going to argue the compass thing you can either use it for better flights or not.
Hope this helps some out there 😁
Yeah, sure, you can change that, but especially for beginners, it will be easier to keep things simple to start with! As for the compass... actually I have not read or being told not to use it!!!! ALL of this... everything I say and do, is a result of experience! Sometimes of painfully tedious and frustrating experience, dealing with compasses! Actually when I flashed the ArduPlane firmware to the F405 Wing... the compass was disabled by default, and in fact... I have been flying without a compass on my planes for years now... and have yet to see a major issue, especially for pure FPV flying! It can be argued that it is useful if you do a lot of autonomous missions... but just for flying... really don't see the point! GPS direction is perfectly adequate as a plane never sits still so there is always movement to help calculate the direction!
@@ArxangelRC nearly all the documentation for ardu and many YT channels wrongly say not compass on fix wing needed. Instead of what development team say which is dont use internal compass use gps compass. And after years of ardu and using a compass now it makes a big diffrence for long range flights.
OK... but HOW!? I've been flying without a compass from day one, and I've had ZERO issue due to the lack of one!!!
brother could you please tell me if matek f405 wing and f405 WTE have any difference? like should i order any and they work the same or do they have significant differnce
Well, as far as I can see, the WTE has a built in 2.4Ghz ELRS receiver, the Wing does not!Seem to be pretty similar otherwise.
in Ardupilot , For wing or plane. necessary to use a compass or not?
Not really! Compass is needed on copters or VTOLs, not necessary for planes!
apakah matek f405 WSE bisa digunaoan untuk mavlink telemetri
I would assume it has a spare serial port that, if running ArduPilot, can be configured to output Mavlink.
Is is there a way to adjust the pitch of the board When it's in the plane
Yes! In Mission Planner go to Full Parameter Tree, expand the AHRS sub-tree, and in there you will see AHRS_TRIM_Y and AHRS_TRIM_X. You need those values to adjust the autopilot's position relative to the plane, if its not perfectly aligned! To the right you will see an explanation of each parameter and what value does what!
@@ArxangelRC got it , thanks
@@jimmytheriot8978 You are welcome! :)
@@ArxangelRC One more question , have you made a video how to set up different flight modes on Mission planner, mama right now all I have is manual mode stabilize mode and return to home , would like to add cruise , auto trim and auto tune
@@jimmytheriot8978 Hi, I have not done a video like that, mainly because I do not setup 2 mixed switches that actually allow for this, as I find it a bit too confusing, since I fly a different plane every other week, and this would be a nightmare! A rotary 6 pos switch also works, if you have it, otherwise you can search for such an instructional on youtube, I am sure somebody has done it!
Nice Tutorial, I gave up using Ardupilot when iNAV came along...That said, I can see why you like it given your terrain and type of missions you do....Did you film the flying recently?...our weather has shut us down, while you still appear to have calm sunny days..?
Yes, weather has been very good around here recently... has allowed me to get some flying done in very good conditions... but then one of the days I started the flight in dead calm... and ended it in 50+ km/h winds... where the plane was easily sitting in one place against the wind! I rarely do Auto missions... unless it is for those test hearts to see if everything is working as it should... but the terrain following capability it pretty awesome and the code has been super reliable for me over the years!
Hello Sir, your video is great. I was just wondering if you can connect this controller to a ground station with a telemetry radio and control it with the ground station? Thankyou.
Yes, you should be able to do anything you can with a regular Pixhawk or a Cube, and as far as I know, control via the telemetry link is possible, though I've never really tried it myself.
@@ArxangelRC interesting, thank you for that.
@@edwardzeng3408 No problem.
I got this same board , when I put it into rth it doesn't come back to home it just circles around the spot where I put it into rth
Does it say RTH on the OSD?
@@ArxangelRC i just rest all the Parameters back to default And it works now, Must have been something I changed by accident
@@jimmytheriot8978 Right, could be! Glad you sorted it out!
Hey! I am trying to set up the cutoff voltage for LION to 2.5 voltage cutoff on blheli. How would I be able to connect ? Could you make video
BLHeli? So not on the F405 controller?
@@ArxangelRC I was able to figure it out. I got two and half hour flight from the Lion batteries
@@farkhodkhikmatov4738 Well done! :) Congratz!
JUST AMAZING! How do I support you
Links in the video description has a number of options! Thank you! :)
Well i keep everything of my APM pro in the rear FC bay, and the inner wall has those wire organiser channel so my Clouds inner belly wasn't messy like yours 😏
My autopilot was back there as well... but there were so many mods to the wiring over the years... that it just got looking like that! It was horrible!
No prior experience with ArduPlane, I've finally decided to start using the F405 Wing bought 2 years ago. I'm wondering if the procedures remain the same after 3 years?
Yup! Still the same! :)
@@ArxangelRC Thanks very much for your reply!
@@gsf1200s You are welcome! :)
How do you calibrate your ESC on something like the Nano Talon where you connect the ESC directly to the FC without connectors?
Without connections? That would depend on the autopilot used... but sometimes when I power everything up... I would simply unplug the ESC power only, throttle up, plug it in (after you've made sure throttle is working of course), when it beeps throttle down... DONE!
Very useful video, thanks
You are welcome! :)
All settings done!!!!! Now Wiring the gps??? How to know gps is working?? The data says no gps!!! The matek 405 wing official site wiring is not working for me
If the GPS is wired in and connected correctly, it should say "no FIX"! Try swapping the Tx and Rx cables around, see if that works!
Alll done and working well now😋😋😋!!! Thanks man!!!
Awesome! :)
How did you set up the camera
Am using inav configuration on mine
Have tried to get the video working but can't
It displays the osd but no video
I use PAL on everything! Nothing special... just connect it there... and... it works!
@@ArxangelRCmine gave me a though time
It's working now tho
Now my motor from 75% begins to skip
Glad you got the camera working! As for the motor... that sounds like a timing issue... the ESC is losing sync after the RPM gets that high! Change the timing settings on the ESC, if possible, or try a different ESC, and see if it improves the situation!
how did u make video working
Do you need to enable or press the DFU button and does it need to be connected to a battery
Does not need to be connected to a battery, and the DFU button is needed only during the initial flashing with ArduPilot in the iNav or Betaflight configurator.
@@ArxangelRC thank you very much🙂
can 3DR Radio Telemetry work on this board or other boards you should make a video on this please
Yes, it does work, I have connected one to it... just plug it where indicated and it should work right away... hardly feel like it deserves a whole video on its own... but might mention it in the F765 Wing video! :)
hey
how to set up radio please?
Make sure main control channels (1-4) are setup properly - Ail, Ele, Thr, Rud, and if using on a plane setup a 3-pos switch to ch 8. This is about enough for most cases.
i do not have a transmitter, can i use any telemetry modules and just fly it with joystick connected to my pc
As far as I know, yes you can.
could you suggest any module which has like good range. you can tell me in categories like upto 2km, upto 5km, upto 10km or till 20km
@@ArxangelRC
@@mukundgirgaonkar2072 Well... as usual the most important part of any wireless system is the antenna, so you can easily get 20kms out of 100mW modules, prodived you have very good antennas both on the ground and in the air! I have not really spent much time deaping with telemetry modules myself, generally have used the integrated telemetry capabilities of the DragonLink system I use, but since it is also a control system, I've never had to use Mavlink to control the aircraft. One option is something like this - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeJCWDr - which has an option for 1000mW output power, which is quite a lot, and with some custom antennas it should give you a good range! Another option are the RFD modules - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Detjhct - but they are pricey, though they seem to be quite popular in industry! In any case I believe you will also benefit a lot from an antenna tracker - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnMnVLX - just to make sure the antenna is pointed at the plane at all times.
How do I get my radiomaster to actually move the radio calibration values? I'm using a TBS Tracer (CSFR).
How does the receiver connect to the flight controller? is it connected to the correct port?
@@ArxangelRC - thanks for replying. It turned out to be a bad TBS Tracer receiver. Put in a ELRS and it worked fine. But now, when I use left eleven, the ailerons move, and when I move ailerons, the elevons move. How do I make changes (is this the reverse function under Servo_?
@@AllAroundTube50 What kind of plane is it? You have to move the channels around in the radio it seems. If I am understanding this correct, your ailerons move the elevator and vice versa?
So my reciever and transmitter are six channel should I upgrade to use ardupilot?
Well... if your receiver has SBUS, it can move more than 6ch though it! What is the radio system?
I have a Matek Systems F405-Wing flight controller... When fail safe takes place the plane flaps get activated and come down. Any suggestions on how to disable flaps from activating during fail safe? Taranis radio, ardupilot firmware with mission planner
Run the signal for the flaps directly from your receiver... or change the options for those outputs in Mission Planner from "Flaps" to "Pasthru" whatever channel controls them on your radio!
Great information. Thank you.
You are welcome! :)
I'm not getting any osd info in my Goggles, I got video but no info
Have you enabled the OSD in the param list?
So..this can run ArduPilot Rover?
Haven't tried it, but I would assume it could! :)
How is your amp draw on the ground when moving servos? Mine goes from idle 1,5amps to 0,9amps when moving servos, with similar setup.
Have not payed attention to that... but it does show 0.6A when sitting idle... which I still find hard to believe since that is almost 15W... that is a lot of heat... and nothing is heating up that much!!!!
Awesome video as always.i have set my 405wing with ardupilot everything working from following your video but keeps saying no gps all plugged in correctly just cannot get a GPS fix outside
If it says "no GPS"... means there is some issue with the wiring, if all is connected correctly, it should say "no fix" when you are indoors!
@@ArxangelRC all sorted now 👌
Awesome! What was wrong with it?
@@ArxangelRC started from beginning and downloaded again and it sorted it 👌tried it out and it works perfectly 😁
Cool! Have fun flying then! :)
Awesome video! I learned a lot watching it.
Can the 405 also be used by Adruplane for live-flight data using a laptop and change modes in flight using that long range telemetry? (using 433/915mHz)
Yes, it can!
@@ArxangelRC How can that be setup including the wiring and the software ?
@@faraazbaig2059 Telemetry module sets are being sold left and right, most of them even would come with compatible wiring. Just plug the air unit in the telemetry port on the controller, ground unit to the laptop, select the correct com and baud rate and click connect, should be easy as that!
Be careful flying in strong wind without an airspeed sensor and compass disabled. I’ve found an issue. Lost a mini talon and nearly lost the nano talon. I’ve enabled compass and it seems to be more stable.
Hee he he you didnt have compass back then. Now your also king of high winds.
I have tons of fun flying in strong winds, and I've never had an issue due to the lack of an airspeed sensor or a compass! But that is my personal experience, not forcing anybody to do it like that... just showing you how I am doing it!
@@ArxangelRC I know you do. A lot of people do. I thought it was something I had wrong in my config but I lost a Mini Talon using pixhawk 4 mini and almost lost a Nano Talon on the F405 Wing due to the same problem. Andrew Tridgell (one of the lead developers for Ardupilot) looked at my logs. Just something to keep in the back of your head. I wish I didn't "need" a compass because I love the BN-220 gps.
@@NoFlyDrone Its really hard to make people understand it was never ment to say no compass just no internal compass for planes. Cause they have compensated for it over time. But if they tried an external they'd see the benefits.
As you know for years I thought no compass till I found out that was wrong and all the development team corrected me as they all use compasses. It's the one problem of so much documentation.
Well... might give it a try on some plane... that will easily have it away from power wires and interference... otherwise it is just a pain in the A** for me!
Youve been my go to for ardupilot. Can you tell me where to connect the S-Port from R9 slim+? And will it let you use Yappa script? (spelling prob wrong)
To be honest... I am not sure, if I had to guess I would say that would be Tx2, since Rx2 is the SBUS in, Tx2 should be the Sport thing... but you also have to set it in the parameters I think! I have never tried this, so talking in theory right now!
Great video! thank you.
Thanks! You are welcome!
I tried the ESC calibration the way you did and it all worked well the motor spinned all was good; however when I unplugged the battery and plugged again then armed the board the motors did not react to throttle movement. Do I need to save anything after I calibrate the motors the way you showed?
Not really... it should all be saved to the ESCs when you throttle down and hear the confirmation beeps from the ESCs! After that if you raise the throttle, they should react accordingly!
@@ArxangelRC Thanks for quick reply. I've spent few hours looking through forums and I am close to solving my problem. It seems i am getting only first three beeps when connecting the battery but no initialized beeps appear at the end, this leads me to thinking that there is something wrong with my DSHOT / ONESHOT parameters which prevent from initializing the ESC which I need to find out how. Also I already found that my left and right motors should be assigned to separate channels. I had them both on one channel. Hope I fix it sometime soon
Well... I don't see a problem with them being on 1 channel... but the F405 Wing does provide two separate channels for this... so might as well use them! :) Do you have iNav on this? Have not dealt with Dshot on ArduPlane... but Dshot does NOT require ESC calibration... that's the whole idea of it!
Thank you!
You are welcome! :)
I'm sorry total noob here, for the mission planner setup, how do you connect the board/autopilot to the computer without USB?
Via a telemetry link, but that would come after the initial setup/flashing of the board is done.
@ArxangelRC oh alright thank you so much. I am using a new product in the RC market, the SIYI products precisely the FT24 and their receiver and module, the FR20 and the FM30 respectively. They promise telemetry. Have you worked with them before?
@@ejegbavworuemu2129 I am not at all familiar with those items... they are SIYI?
Too clear about all parameters .. Nice+++
Glad to have helped! :)
How did u setup pid..?
Well... for the most part I use defaults, at some point I may do an auto tune!
How do you calculate CG
That would be specific to each plane, but it is usually 30-33% from the wing's chord, from the leading edge.
Where can i get the pins? Are they called something else besides pins?
thanx
They are called pin headers. They are included with the F405-Wing.
Yup, should be included with the board!
Since you don't use a GPS, how does the RTH work?
A plane is constantly in motion, so the autopilot can determine direction from the GPS data... hence... everything works as it should!
Hi there, sorry to be a pain but I'm setting up a f405 wing and want to use an l9r Reciever, do i connect the rssi pin on the l9r to the rssi pin on the 405? and then configure it the same as you did with the r9?? Thanks In advance and I love your channel
Yes, that should do it! :)
@@ArxangelRC Works a Treat, can you suggest the best place to put vtx antenna on a ranger 2000? also the gps??
Going to mount receiver on the mount at the rear
I put the GPS right behind the canopy at the top of the fuselage, but on the inside! As for the antenna... get one of those mini stubby ones and put it right behind the wheel... thingy... should keep it generally protected... or you can put it around the wheel spot, in that recess... should be OK!
Very informative video. You may have answered this question somewhere else but just thought to ask here. Now that the F405 can run both iNAV or ArduPlane, what's your preference for a beginner like me. I had a lil bit of play with ArduPlane on a Pixhawk 2 years back building an F450 type quad.
Thanks! Well... not sure really! I think absolute beginners might find it easier to work with iNav because of the more involved GUI setup... although Ardu has made great progress in this field in recent months... but is still lacking in the way of ease of use when it comes to newcomers! For a plane, I definitely prefer Ardu, even if it is a bit more work to get to know it!
@@ArxangelRC Thanks. That's very helpful.
You are welcome! :)
First of all thanks for your awesome videos! Did you experienced any firmware limitation with matekf405 and arduplane?
Nope! There shouldn't be any at this time, because they are still able to pack all of its features within the memory the F405 has!
Great video
Thanks! :)
Hi Arxangel. Please neegd help from heaven!!!
I am setting a Matek F405 for a minitalon. The issue is i cant arm the FC unless i unable the Arming _Required to 0.
I did flash and setup orher Matek F405 for Dolphing, C1 chaser , Ritewing without any issue.
I calibrate the ESC many times, change the ESC. Reflush Ardupilot 3 times starting for scratch all the setup in this video.Uncheck all the arming cheks. Read the ardupilot many times. Etc.
Cant arm the FC using the ruder stick.
Any suggestion?
Thanks !!!
A reversed rudder channel perhaps? When you try to arm it while connected to the computer, what error message does it show up on the HUD as to why it wouldn't arm?
@@ArxangelRC oh interesting. I will check the ruder channel on the radio.
@@pablosiga6082 👍
good stuff Arx! always something new to learn. What are your thoughts/experience with messing around with MIXING_GAIN and AUTOTUNE_LEVEL >6? I've got a Matek F405 on a small Z-84 wing and I've been unable to get it to feel snappy and agile like my Eagle Tree Vector planes... Cheers
To be honest I have not played with that value yet... just leave it default and have done it like that so far... so can't really comment!
Hi . I have receiver X8r. i use serial 1 but smartport doesnt working . is there anyway ? thanks
Well you have to program it in the parameters of the autopilot to output S.port compatible signal!
@@ArxangelRC in my QX7 iset up input and mixer A E T R. but in TAb SERVO OUTPUT , my throttle dont move. :( do i set TX wrong ?
@@LDD21 Well... few things... you need to arm the model before you would see throttle moving in the "Servo Output" tab. Are all other channels working?
@@ArxangelRC . Thank you so much . It works. !!
@@LDD21 Awesome! :)
Legend
Thank you! :)
Great video..how to setup in radio? Not included to your video..
Not much of a setup in the radio actually!
Have a question. Why did you choose a omnibusF4 to flash the F405wing???
I have installed the most recent Betaflight 10.6.0 and there’s no Matek F405 wing in the menu.
Can you help me?
I did not chose anything! Essentially the F405 Wing is detected as an opmnibus, but since I am installing a custom firmware that I load locally from my computer... what that dropdown says is irrelevant! I select the file from my computer, that dropdown is only when flashing to Betaflight and letting the system download the file automatically from their server! F405 Wing is not supported by Betaflight as it is a plane controller, not a copter one!
ArxangelRC I go it now. Thanks
You are welcome! :)
what servo is the motor on? Having a problem with getting mine to work. Thank you very much.
You mean on which channel output on the flight controller?
@@ArxangelRC yes sir, my motor test is blacked out. Esc tone when i connect battery but no motor test. Not sure if i have motor set. channel one is throttle, next is empty, then elevon right and thne eleven right. this is a matekf405 wing setup.
@@phillip7047 But have you set it up in software that channel 1 is the throttle?
No I haven't, not sure how to.
@@phillip7047 Are you using AdruPilot firmware?
Hi. I saw your video that is very useful. I want to ask that i have the ct6b transmitter which has the channels only. And software show the flight mode channel 8. So i want to change in channel five. Param trees also shows the flight mode channel 8. And full param alao show flight mode channel 8. I changed it but not saved properly. So please make the short video for how to change it.
To be honest I have never changed the mode switch channel... have always used channel 8, but I have seen this channel mapping in the full param list... and I can't see a reason why changing it there wouldn't work! Do you have anything else setup on channels 5 or 6 in the radio or on the Autopilot?
@@ArxangelRC no. I have not any setup which has the channel five or six. I have same setup as yours. So i want to change it in channel six or five.
@@ArxangelRC hi hope you doing well. I have changed it. If you want to change it let me know. I will tell you. How to change it.
Hi, sorry for the delay... how did you do it?
@@ArxangelRC hi, it can be change in software.
Hai, do you have any detail to setup telemetry, because on 14:10 its very hard to me to understand, hope u can help me. thank you
At 14:10 I enable the RSSI... what is unclear about that?
@@ArxangelRC i use R9m Slim + for receiver, so for wiring, i just plug s.port from receiver to Smartport on Matek F405, and setup configuration at 14:10 is it right?
@@dekiaza F405 does not have an S.port... it can have the telemetry port programmed to output FrSky telemetry data. What I describe at 14:10 is how to setup RSSI, which is not the same as telemetry! I've never setup FrSky telemetry on ArduPlane myself, only heard of people doing it... so I can't be certain... but in Mission Planner, in the Full Parameter List tab you will have to find the Serial port that is setup for the Mavlink telemetry, since I am assuming you have connected the R9 Slim's S.Port to that same output on the F405, and in there on the right you will see listed more options for this port, in addition to Mavlink! I think one of the options was the FrSky Telemetry, so input the number it is given on the left, and write params, then power cycle the FC... and if all is good and there are no addition steps to be taken... this should do it! But again... this is only from what I've noticed while looking around Mission Planner, am not certain it will work so easily since I've never done it, but you can give it a try nonetheless! :)
@@ArxangelRC ok thank you for your help 🙏🙏
@@dekiaza You are welcome, I hope you managed to get it working!
ah the minimosd days..thank god they're over. great vid thanks.
Yes, they are... but not exactly! Industrial grade still use Cubes... and they do not have anything integrated... but luckily the new MFD TeleFlyTiny will soon be able to take in Mavlink and display all of its data, in addition to still sending the tracking data to the ground, which will replace the Minim for those systems that still require an external OSD, and that is very good news because the MFD OSD is absolutely awesome!
ArxangelRC i have an old (2.4.8) pixhawk AND a Rpi ZERO driven Erle-brain . pixhawk only flew once and Erle never got the software running. and now its beyond support:-( shame because they are nice but tech changes sooo fast
Indeed!
Need some help here again, please. I installed the Matek405 wing on my Albabird with Arduplane and on maiden (in FBWA) have lost throttle power after about 10 seconds of taking off, coming to a gentle stabilized descent and landed. This has repeated itself 3 times, but in the 3rd time when it was close to the ground I powered up again and it responded, shot up back in the air and I circled around gaining altitude for landing closer to where I was. It was very fast and the turn angle was not high enough so I lost control and crashed. Anyway, the throttle behavior was erratic, to say the least. I was using a brand new fully charged 4S1P li-ion (balanced, IR of cells about 20) in the first two take-offs and changed to another new identical battery for the 3rd flight as I couldn't think of anything else. I'm using the recommended tiny 30A ESCs on the recommended 3 bladed 7 in props, with Sunnysky 980kv motors (maybe on the underpowered side but I'm here for endurance, not to win any race). What I did do differently from your instructional set up video was using a Y-harness for the ESCs signal and ground and only used the S1 pin and ground for the two ESCs (instead of using S1 and S2 for each motor). Would it have anything to do with it? Can you guys think of anything else for me to troubleshoot once I get it out of the tree? Many thanks.
Well this sounds weird! Do you do auto take off, or just put the plane in FBWA, throttle up and throw it? Don't see how a battery would have anything to do with it, or the autopilot settings! Is this the only plane you fly with this radio? Has it done this on other models?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, flown with this radio in the last 3 years 9XRPro with XJT module and brand new L9R rx. Take off in FBWA, not Auto. How about using Y harness in S1 for ESC signal and ground, instead of each ESC plugged separately in S1 and S2 Would that be and issue?
You can use Y-harness, no problem about that! Any developments?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, I finally figured it out! The recomended ESCs had a strange factory setting and throttle wasn't linear, and seemed to be entering calibration mode. It wasn't until a friend lent me his BLHeli USB programming stick I figured it out. It was the first time I ever calibrated an ESC via computer as I'm not a quad guy. Those ESC are super tiny and light and do the job well, but a bit of fiddling with software downloads, USB and all. Learning with every crash...
Haha, nice! Well I am glad you figured it out! :)
Arx flew mine today and everything was great did u have to change any thing for the Mah used just want to make sure I’m getting the true read out for Mah used in my Osd
Great news then! Well done! No, I have not changed anything, but the stock params are showing about 5-7% lower current than it actually is, and just a tad higher voltage than it really is! Have not tried to adjust them yet.
I'm building an AR Wing with this FC. On the bottom plate of the FC, there are the current settings to use for proper voltage and mAh usage. I've not flown or fully tested yet, but so far look like good values
@@JorgeJimenez2020 im loving this board so far i think you will to just got to get used to turning in FBWA mode
On the bottom there are the settings... probably for iNav or Betaflight! Not ones for ArduPlane!
Hey Nikola :) I have just finally gotan analogueairapeed sensor for Ardupiloton my F405STD board. Its got 5v and GND but where on earth do I solder the other wire? Is it meant for a signal pad somewhere, or does it go on the RSSI pad like I swear I have read somewhere?
Hope you cn help me out. Thanks mate. Happy flying!
Hey... I am not sure how this is supposed to be wired... let alone on that board! I've never wired an airspeed sensor, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that it DOES NOT go on the RSSI pad! I would look for a serial port Rx input somewhere... that should be able to accept the Tx from the sensor! Which one though... I do not know!
@@ArxangelRC thanks mate. Yeah I am a bit confused. A guy on rcgroups with the same board and sensor claimed it goes on rssi pad and needs pin 15 set in parameters. I also found info on diydrones and other forums saying it needs pin 15, but they claim that it needs a 6.6v ADC input, (whatever that is). I cant see an adc pad on the board, but I know rssi is 3.3v right? Maybe thats it?
I tried it last night in a calibration flight and it seemed to work once it was flying in loiter. The wind made it behave weirdly in fbwa, maybe i have to autotune it all again now I have airspeed input?
Its meant to help a lot with high winds and sticking to mission tracks accurately. Time will tell haha..
Thanks for your reply my friend. Happy flying! Chase those clouds :)
Hm... the RSSI pin is an input only pin, as far as I can tell... so it doesn't output any voltage... it is looking for a voltage input from the RSSI pin on a receiver... I cannot see the logic of the airpseed sensor being connected there!!!! I could be wrong though... I am not familiar with this board!
hello, gps does not work, soldered to 4 uart. does it make sense to solder to 1 uart?
UART1 was something else. You sure its wired correctly? What does the GPS indicator in Mission Planner say? "No GPS" or "no fix"?
@@ArxangelRC "no GPS" . But everything worked in INAV.
@@user-wd5tv9su3g Could it be reversed Tx and Rx wires?
@@ArxangelRC flashed V4.2 for bdshot, turned on GPS(5) detection on all free protocols, turned on only external compass detection, there were some other manipulations, but this solved the problem. I did not have to solder)) Thank you!!!
@@user-wd5tv9su3g Glad gou fixed it mate! :) Happy flying!
I thought "i will be finally giving AWAY my xuav clouds" hahahhaa
hahahaha, nah... it is one of my favourite planes... and my longest serving one! This thing is a jewel!
I am stucked at compass calibration,,,no movements deducted during calibration,
Do you have a compass actually connected to the board? And wiring is correct?
ArxangelRC yes did cross check and plz post me your wirings,may be i am wrong at some point
@@FLY_WD_RAGHIL Well... I have never used a compass on a plane, never connect it to the flight controller even IF the GPS unit has one... so can't really say what could be the issue! Is this a new GPS unit you are using, or an old one? Could it be it might be damaged... the compass portion I mean... or a cold solder somewhere?
ArxangelRC do compass makes any difference??? Why need compass???
ArxangelRC its a new gps