I switched to Linux 30 days ago... How did it go?
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I've ran Linux on my laptop for well over a year, and have showed Linux on Gaming PCs too many times to count... but what about installing Linux on my workstation? I spent the last 30 days with ZorinOS 17, and did 100% of my Video Editing, 3D Modeling, Live Streaming and day to day business operations from it. How did it go? What challenges did I face, and would I recommend it for you?
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Other issues I didn't mention...
Resolve - Waveforms aren't visible at all in audio clips, making cuts incredibly difficult.
Resolve - This video has a rendering glitch at 7:16. Rendered in x265, so that didn't fix it.
Chrome - Cannot drag and drop files into Chrome to upload (email attachments, YT/Floatplane uploads). It just doesn't work.
ZOOM - Doesn't work with Tiling. When using tiling, Zoom is always on top and not auto-arranged.
File Manager - A network interruption kills my network file share access. Must either reboot, or access console and "mount -a" to restore.
Discord - Cannot access DeckLink HDMI capture (flatpack version)
Nothing that prevents anything from working, but each of them are also a time sink vs Windows/MacOS, where these issues aren't present.
I dropped Chrome a long time ago. Brave has everything it has and is just better all around. The file manager doesn't manage your network mounts. Autofs will fix your mount issue. Discord, Zoom, and Resolve are not Linux issues. Those are Linux is a second class to windows / mac issue.
"Ideal is not something you start with, but something you work towards."
"If you never start, you never improve,
so start with what you have and improve it over time"
Even if Linux "Isn't ideal yet" we NEED to start using it to make it better.
If nobody uses it nobody can improve it.
Since it's OpenSource, anyone MUST contribute by donating, by placing Bounties,
specially people that make money off it should place bounties to fix the bugs they have an issue with,
because it's a Moral responsibility we need to have in this culture if we ever want it to finally work better than the apps of the lazy megacorps.
I wish you a lot of luck and thank you for making thw jump :)
Chrome and other window tiling issues seem to be distro related. Go with Fedora or Debian with KDE or XFCE next time.
@@Clobercow1 Discord and Zoon are both web-apps so it's just better to use them directly on the Browser.
And that's what i do, saves me from the always running process eating ram and cpu, and from potential telemetry spyware.
@Clobercow1 Discord, Zoom, Resolve issues that exist on Linux are still issues. The blame in the situation doesn't matter to me when they're slowing down my work.
I hear Adobe is currently fixing that compatibility issue, not by providing a Linux port, but by pissing everyone off and make them switch software.
Yea, I'm hoping this is the push a FOSS alternative needs to get increased support.
This comment is brilliant 🤣
The sooner you stop using Adobe and use one of the many alternatives, the sooner you can be rid of that abusive relationship. Do it now. Not just your wallet, but your sanity.
@@Hebdomad7 For low-end Linux Desktop Users that might be an option. :) But not for professionals.
Hehe...
The lack of minimize, maximize and close buttons is because of Gnome.
The program assumes that window decorations are handled by the display server, which almost all other Wayland desktop managers support.
Except Gnome ... Which is what Zorin OS uses.
I like Ubuntu MATE...XFCE is also nice for lighter weight machines
Gnome devs are such a fucking cancer, devs need to close bug reports relating to this saying it is a "feature" brought to you by Gnome devs massively, perhaps Gnome devs will finally get their heads out of their asses
I'm not certain that's right, at least for Resolve specifically. I'm on KDE Plasma 6, and don't see minimize/maximize either.
I CAN snap the window to zones and use shortcuts to maximize/minimize, but there's nothing for that the Resolve window.
@@remoteholepunch6739 Wasn't Resolve a flatpak? I avoid those like if it were a plague
@@remoteholepunch6739 Gnome is known for not having windows decorations if the app assumes that the server takes care of it. Maybe you need to enable some configuration? Or try a non-flatpack version?
There's some people talking about removing the top menu on the window decoration settings in "Kde Settings > Colors and themes > Window decorations".
I see some other things online. Maybe some work for you.
Ok, finished the video, and I do have a few responses to your direct questions:
Window Management - Gnome is kinda the go-to because it's "functional" without any configuration surprises, but it's also opinionated and bad for someone needing repeatable environments. KDE has builtin tools for remembering window positions (and also will 100% fix your Resolve not having borders. So I recommend it heartily). You can right click a title bar and the settings -> Special Window Settings -> Add property -> position, will let you have certain apps snap to those positions by default. I will have to do some more digging to see how to make that togglable (since it will snap every time the window opens, so normal use needs it off), but I also believe there are KDE plugins that help with that too. Just know that as per my other comment, Discord limiting how small the window can be will not be fixed by this. That one is because Discord actively fights against going beyond a minimum size due to the Discord rendering backend being fundamentally broken at certain sizes. Config file changes can work around this active choice, but parts of discord will look weird if done.
Image editing - You're 100% right that Gimp is not equal to Photoshop, and the options are limited. Best answer I can give is to see if Gimp + Inkscape + Krita fill enough gaps to get you everything you need, and if not, I think there's a webapp that gets pretty close to PS, managing to even import most Photoshop formats. It's all gonna require changing the workflow, just as with Resolve, but if those can somehow together cover everything you specifically do, it might be an option. But yeah, beyond those suggestions, there aren't any real good options right now, might need a small Windows system or dual-boot for this. Sucks, but you seem to already be aware of that situation. Can't comment further than that since I don't do image editing myself.
Decklink access (and other flatpak weirdness) - Look into FlatSeal. This allows you to modify the amount of containerization Flatpak applies. There should be an option to allow certain devices to be access (as well as other folders, if needed). Since things like DeckLink don't use the general video input pipeline of Linux (v4l2) and instead roll their own, you will need to learn a bit of how `/dev` works, as well as where decklink puts those file. Linux has a standard for this, BlackMagic just chose to be extra proprietary here, but it is possible to make them behave.
AV1 - Close but not quite. Linux has support for AV1, but the Linux drivers issued by Nvidia themselves don't support AV1 (EDIT: since someone want's to be pedantic, this was specific to NVENC, which is the only *stable* way to do encoding, according to Nvidia. That has since changed, but is a very new change that hasn't made it to most stable software yet. Technically there are other options that work, but these are not stable or supported). Since that's a black box that Nvidia has sued to keep dark, that's just a ~~"wait till they feel like opening that box"~~ problem. ~~Nothing you, I, or any Linux Dev can do about it sadly. If this is a deal breaker, then I can respect moving back to Windows for the time being~~ EDIT2: the absolute latest version of NVENC now supports AV1, but is new enough that not much really supports it as Stable. OBS has it on testing, and should be releasing it with 30.2.
AAC - Similar but more long-term issue here. AAC is a "per user" license, so there's no real hope for Linux builds of software to supply it without resorting to compiling it locally per user. FFMPEG does something like this to get the re-encode you probably have seen working, but the MPEG group doesn't like this, and Resolve would absolutely be targeted if they pulled this move. Fortunately the patent drops in 2028, so even if it becomes a deal-breaker for now, it should be usable in 4 years. Now whether things change and make AAC obsolete by then is another story...
I'm gonna include my own issues and notes in a reply.
So I should preface this with two notes. First, I've been Linux exclusive on my own machines for nearly a decade now. Picked up Ubuntu 12.04 while in highschool, and ditched windows entirely in 2014. Second, I did recently make the decision to try a distro-hop in January, and while I love the distro I'm on (NixOS), it is 100% an "expert distro", so many issues are of my own making.
As of right now, I've been suffering with 3 issues in my day-to-day process:
Most recently, I've been having an issue with fullscreen games not accepting mouse input. I have learned that that issue is likely a combination of my choice of monitor setup (4 in a + pattern), Wayland (because it's still not quite ready), and some input libraries. Steam has come to the rescue here by providing gamescope as a way to kinda "containerize" the rendering of the game, making it playable, but it is still a significant issue.
I've also been long-term dealing with Discord not handling screen-sharing audio correctly. Basically, Discord doesn't implement the required element to grab desktop audio on linux *at all*, so without client modifications, it's a no-go. Recently though, with Wayland, the whole thing got a little more broken, as Wayland requires apps to get authorization from the user to do screen capture, and Discord simply doesn't implement that. It's a good move for Wayland, since that can be a major security flaw, but for a platform that regularly ignores linux anyways, it's a bit of a rub. Technically all fixable with a client mod, but those *are* technically against ToS (even if Discord generally doesn't care).
Finally, Bluetooth. Bluetooth, the bane of my existence. I've had issues with Bluetooth since long before Linux, and the issues don't stop here. I've yet to get *anything* to pair right on Linux long term, and audio is just right out. But I also can't get Bluetooth to stay connected on my phone or my significant other's Windows computer. So yeah, it's worst on Linux, but I wrote off bluetooth a while ago, so it has minimal impact.
As a bonus, I use a relatively high-end wireless headset (Steelseries Arctis Nova Pro). I had the previous generation (which just gave out entirely for no reason) which supported a "dual output" option for mixing game and chat audio, which worked great on Linux. But the new Nova Pro has apparently decided to move that feature into software, and so on Linux, it never shows the mixer option, and only provides one audio output. It's far from a deal breaker, but it's still been kinda missed. I have since learned exactly how the software enables and handles this "virtual mixer" feature, but it's enough of a headache, and so little gain, that I haven't bothered at all.
On the positive side, Nix has been one of my new favorite toys, and has actually saved me once already. Nix uses config files to define *everything* about a system, which while a headache to learn, has the nice side-effect of making rollbacks a breeze. It also has the benefit of making copying a system's layout and configuration as simple as copying a single folder (or storing it on Github). So story time. About 2 weeks ago, I was scheduled for a job interview. Kinda a big deal for me, since it's with a potentially major company, and a massive pay bump. So imagine my horror when I learn that my primary boot drive just gave up the ghost about 2 hours before the call? Rebuilding a normal system, Linux *or* Windows was enough of a headache that I probably would have had to reschedule, since it was unlikely I would finish that before the call time. And rescheduling would likely be an instant failure, since preparedness is something they explicitly listed on their "what we want in applicants" section. However! I have been using Nix, and my config files live on a public Github. The key for decrypting my secrets? that's on a Yubikey. So what would have been a few hours of rebuild, combine with weeks of finding that "one more thing" I missed, all turned into about 5 minutes hunting for a replacement boot drive, 4 command lines in the nix installer, and 15 minutes waiting for zfs drivers to build. After that, it was like nothing had happened. Since my personal data lives on a separate drive, I didn't even lose any of my files.
Linux, for all the issue around it, can sometimes be absolutely amazing to watch.
Nix is still confusing a heck though. Don't use it unless you have a grasp on Set Theory and about 2 months of downtime to do nothing but learn it.
I second a lot of what he said. While Gnome is great for some workflows, like coding, KDE Plasma is my recommendation for content creators of all stripes. Whether you're editing photos, video or audio KDE is going to offer a better experience for those workflows. That's one reason why Ubuntu Studio uses it by default. Also, I'd recommend trying the realtime kernel. It can solve alot of jank and performance issues. I can't transcode audio without it. Also, people never mention a little utility called "tuned" to tune the system to their use-case. Process scheduler shaping is another strategy people don't know about. There are other more advanced topics which I won't mention. However, if you understood all those little backend processes and how to tame them, you'd realize that there can be no one size fits all solution.
We must all accept the fact that there's no such thing as a GOOD general purpose OS. At best, you'll end up with a jack of all trades and master of none that's only going to leave you feeling lacking. Everything out there needs to be tuned and customized to a given use-case if you hope to have a decent experience (even Windows). I have mutiple installs of a certain distro, because I have them set up for different purposes. I can't expect to have both a decent dev environment and good gaming experience on the same install. I have to tune and customize each to optimize it for a given workload. That's the reality, and so please lower your expectations and accept that it's just the nature of the beast.
This is one reason why Mr. GE created Nobara Linux, because there's so much work needed to customize Fedora to that use-case that most would never bother with it. So, he does that work for you to make it a more turn-key experience. Even the misnamed Turn-Key Linux distro comes in a multitude of different flavors which are all customized to a specific use-case, because there's no such thing as a turn-key Linux distro. So, quit chasing the golden dragon of the perfect Linux distro. There's never going to be a "Year of Linux" distro, because they all must be tailored to a specific use. Windows just has really good partnership and includes a lot of licensed software, and graphical utilities. Other than that, it's no better than Linux. For those of us who are able to manage without those things being included by default, it's not even an issue.
People just have the wrong idea about the way a computer is supposed to work. Part of that is Microsoft's fault for making Windows so feature complete out of the box. However, that requires a lot of money and influence to achieve. Linux is a community project, and so doesn't have that kind of clout to throw around. It's just something we must all accept, and be prepared to have to deal with.
So that's why I don't have an issue with AAC? I always build ffmpeg. I didn't know WTF he was carrying on about. All I could think was AAC works here. Yeah for what he wants to do he's got to learn how to compile. If you want video editing hotness there's no two ways around it. Cutting edge is the domain of the dev branches.
@@faeranne > Finally, Bluetooth. Bluetooth, the bane of my existence. I've had issues with Bluetooth since long before Linux, and the issues don't stop here. I've yet to get anything to pair right on Linux long term, and audio is just right out. But I also can't get Bluetooth to stay connected on my phone or my significant other's Windows computer. So yeah, it's worst on Linux, but I wrote off bluetooth a while ago, so it has minimal impact.
I had near flawless (99% fine) experiences with my bluetooth on my laptop when I had a laptop with an intel wifi+bt combo, but now I have a laptop with a mediatek wifi+bt combo and well... it's not good, both at wifi or bt.
@@TheChadXperience909 Gnome requires adapting, and then you get fast and powerful, but yeah, not for everyone.
That GIMP rant is spot on. GIMP desperately needs the blender treatment - a huge upgrade to the UI like blender had in the 4.0 update.
GIMP 3.0 is everything you want, but it keeps missing deadlines and I doubt it'll release this decade 😭
Until then, I use Krita. Better at "Photoshop" productivity than GIMP lol
@@Masta_E yeah, I personally use GIMP only for like very quick photo edits... literally everything else I do in Krita (over 4 years been using it, and on Steam I have 43.6 h on Krita XD )
Spot on. The Gimp UI is utter trash. It really is bad.
@@toby9999it’s ui is designed like a lot of DCC applications just none of them are dock able like say Houdini where you can tear them out of the UI and reposition them or have them free floating.
"It doesn't even have maximize, close and minimize icons". Craft got GNOMEd.
Yep, that definitely sounds like the GNOME with Wayland experience.
isnt it just a checkbox in the settings?
@@dorklol2969 a checkbox you need to know about...
@@dorklol2969 Nope. The issue here is that GNOME doesn't do server-side window decorations. Basically, the app can say "I don't want to design and draw my own titlebar etc., give me a standard issue titlebar, please", and other Linux desktops' display servers / compositors will draw them one that's nicely integrated to the rest of the desktop.
A window can also say that it wants to draw its own window controls (called Client Side Decorations or CSD for short on Linux), which lets it eg. put buttons and so on in the titlebar. It's a design style that's really common in GNOME and MacOS and increasingly common in eg. Windows, every browser does it etc.
GNOME are firmly convinced that these sorts of active window decorations are the way to go, and don't like the idea of server-side standard issue titlebars at all. They've also architected their compositor, Mutter, such that making it able to draw server side decorations is really hard.
As a result, GNOME just doesn't provide server side window decorations at all, and if an app assumes it can just get a titlebar from the compositor, the window will end up having none in GNOME, which is what happened with DaVinci Resolve here. The Factorio devs also had this issue and wrote a blog about it a while back.
I can confirm that all the Window management he mentioned in this video aren't Linux issues at all. In fact, all of those are a total non-issue in both XFCE and Plasma/KDE.
The Davinci issue where the window won't show a top bar is a Gnome issue. Davinci, when asked what the top bar should look like, says "use whatever is appropriate". This way the window matches the theme and look of the rest of your computer, your OS just provides that. Gnome responds with "okay I'll put none there". There's no solution to this because Gnome devs insist. FYI KDE seems more like the interface for you, you seem to need very specific features and KDE is the features interface. It also puts a proper bar on Davinci like it should.
Also DO NOT download the drivers from Nvidia. Use the Nvidia drivers your distro supplies, through the "additional drivers" program or something similar. If your distro doesn't, then you need to switch distros, this is your distro's fault for not providing drivers. You can't be sure encoding and sound will work without using the supported drivers.
@motmontheinternet hopefully this won't even be much of a problem once the open source driver is up to par, now that nvidia is slowly 'getting it'.
@@motmontheinternet nah it's his fault for using hardware with bad open source support and nvidia has been antagonistic for decades.
@@DJDocsVideosPeople like you are one of the problems with the Linux community.
@@slaapliedje seeing is believing
Linux is not the untamable beast anymore. Hell, i was able to teach my mom to use linux mint. She uses it for browsing and email and it prevented her from buying a new laptop.
I bought my mom new windows laptop because the old one broke. The new one had sleep issues with win 10 and 11. No issues with mint and she likes it more because it has functional start menu.
Relatives with little or no tech instincts are the best Linux candidates. Grandparents and in-laws never seem to understand which emails they can open, which sites are dangerous, etc. Moving them to Linux resulted in weekly tech support calls dropping to twice a year -- ie, when they accidentally close their folder tree and think they deleted their Inbox = 30 second fixes. Thinking an OS change is too confusing for them is incorrect thinking -- they just know the icons to double-click on the desktop. As long as they have a desktop with an email icon and a browser icon and a pictures folder to browse through, they are unaware of any differences going on under the covers.
@@tuber2khhonestly yeah this is the best take. People who are steadfast and refuse to change are not the same as people who literally don't even know enough to have an opinion.
@@tuber2kh This is so true. It's the windows/mac power users that have the most trouble switching. The person who isn't tech savvy will have a more hassle free experience with a noob friendly distro like mint or ubuntu than on windows.
My parents use Linux since around 2007 when i was sick of repairing their Windows installation for the umpteen time, just threw Ubuntu on there and they where and still are happy with it. It simply works and if it acts up i can SSH into their machine and fix it.
Proud of you for trying it out!
To add to the KDE recommendations you're getting here, they added a tiling feature in 5.27 that lets you make a tiling layout that could maybe be what you're looking for. Just hit Meta+T to see the tiling layout and resize or make a new horizontal/vertical split, then you can just hold shift while moving a window and drop it over the region you want and it'll snap to fill that area.
me doing the linux challenge for the past 3 years
Me approx 12 ;) never looked back.
Me 7 years after my best friend brutally challenged me to run gentoo as my primary distro when I started.
@@Infifty uh-oh, hard ball :D
@@Infifty haha! From driving around in a Volvo to someone saying you can't pilot a space rocket! Hold my beer..!
same but 24 years
Gnome is probably the worst option you could have used in terms of window management. I have a feeling most of your issues would go away in terms of window management if you used plasma/KDE.
Agreed
I love gnomes window managment, and it may work great for his workflow, all he needed was a gnome extension called tilling shell to give him his windows fancy zone.
I hate close buttons on windows. Try doing that on firefox and you just lose all the tabs. The correct way is to use quit from the burger menu. "Close window to close the app" is the Windows way. Even macOS doesn't work like that. But MS has trained users to expect a big red X in every OS.
It’s funny to see the people doing the Linux challenge describe exactly the pain points I described to my friend when he made me do the Windows challenge. I’ve been using Linux for basically my entire adult life (since 2008), and now Windows is incredibly difficult for me to use and a bunch of things I rely on don’t work on it or are really difficult to get working on it.
I think we just get used to what we’re using, and switching will always be difficult, no matter which OS you’re switching from and which you’re switching to.
It's no problem either way. Whatever operating system you're stuck on, just install some freeware known as "virt-manager" and now you can run any other operating system at any second. Even better, you can easily and safely make restore images, backups, assign resources (including complete control of PCI devices, hard drives, etc).
I run Photoshop on my Linux box any second I feel like it, it's not even hard to do.
@@Grunchy005 Seconded! I can run Windows 7 VM with GPU passed through to it due to that software. Only pity is that the games I installed it for are exactly the ones that run with graphical glitches now. Bother!
Windows for me is easy. But using a Steam Deck the first time in desktop mode which is based off Arch linux called SteamOS. Was hard to navigate. I had to learn it a lot to get used to it.
100%. I've long argued that the biggest problem with Windows users doing the migration to Linux is they expect Linux to behave, and be used, the same as Windows. His rant about GIMP and Photoshop shows this. Adobe hates Linux, and there's nothing the Linux community can do about that, but there are alternatives ways to do things and it's obviously going to take time to find out what those are.
As for most of the rest of his complaints (placement, titlebar, etc). Use KDE.
@@Babalas-no9ot No you are missing the point, no one is asking for adobe software on Linux. He is saying, Adobe is the industry standard, everyone that goes to school to learn video/image editing learn on adobe. So MAKE GIMP EMULATE THE SAME WORKFLOW STEPS!!!!! Having Gimp out there doing it's own thing to be different and cute is shooting itself in the foot!!! If you want to compete and be accepted by the mainstream you need to adapt your software to provide the same creature comforts OR BETTER, not be actively harder to use for the sake of differentiation or being open and free.
I find it wild that one of your primary issue is window management (that being Gnome).
It is one thing for some Linux elitist to complain about gnome attitude and (not) doing x or y, and then spend 2 weeks configuring a dwm/hyprland. But that an "average" user finds gnome broken (in ways all other Desktops Environments just aren't, and that we have been complaining about) is really interesting, and should be a wake up call for the gnome team.
The issue is that Gnome is the default, Ubuntu, pop_os (today), Zorin, RedHat, etc ship it, you didn't even know that it was the culprit, and said it was a Linux issue (which it isn't, but with how far it infests the eco system it is a Linux issue).
And some of the issues and attitude are:
- Fallback for when a window doesn't provide a titlebar? Nah, devs must provide one
- DRM leasing for VR headsets under wayland? Nah, we don't like the protocol
- Tiling? Nah, this doesn't fit our design philosophy
- Our Icon Theme not following the standard and breaking other apps? Your (and devs) problem
- Customize? Wallpaper you can
The solution to issues with Gnome, has it's been for about a decade or more now, is to simply not use it. Redhat doesn't really have a desktop OS anymore, there is sort of Fedora Stream, but meh and Redhat has been doing dumb things. Ubuntu does a bunch of other strange things that i'd recommend avoiding that too. PopOS is just Ubuntu + some stuff, so that's out. I think Zorin is also a Ubuntu derivative. The solution is to use either Mint Debian Edition + KDE, or just plain old Debian with KDE. Sure it'll be a bit behind the latest new toys, but it'll all work and won't break, and just about everything will have a guide for Debian.
To be fair extentions are nice in terms of customization before they break every single update. I only use GNOME on my laptops these days since it offers great touch screen support, otherwise I stick to dynamic tiling WMs and sometimes Plasma for gaming.
@@Cynyr you should also avoid zorin in general as the devs haven't really been consistent with updates and the paid version is really odd.
Also, GNOME merged DRM leasing. And the rest of the "issues" you made up.
But sure, I'll do you one better.
- Discord has bad screen sharing? KDE: "It's their fault. Devs should fix it" ... Yeah they should... just like any other broken app. -_-
@@Cynyr PopOS team (System76) is working on their own DE, for quite a while now actually. It's called CosmicDE, it's Rust-based (uses the programming language, I know what Rust is (one of my favorite languages to code in, actually😀)), which is also super promising. They've depended on GNOME for a very long time, so their own DE will be a better option for them. I use it on CachyOS myself (it's in the AUR, so I could just install it with paru). It's in I think pre-Alpha state or Alpha state, still pretty early but a lot of things are already done on their side.
I’m on Year 3 of my 30 day challenge. I’ve been clean and sober ever since.
So Windows literally drove you to drink. I get that.
The way people fight over operatingsystems is just plain stupid. Let people use what ever they want. My self i use macOS, Windows and Linux
Friends don't let friends drive windows.
@@bennaambo2716 I totally agree. I think people who use multiple operating systems have a different view than those who just use a single phone or laptop or desktop. The irony there is that when you use everything, you are really in a position to assess the positives and negatives which can lead to arguing with yourself lol. I often find myself thinking that one OS is better than another for certain things. Windows is still #1 for gaming, for example, but for absolute customizability, Linux wins by a long shot.
If you are a power user and you use computing power for lots of different purposes, the worst OS is the one you limit yourself to.
@@bennaambo2716 I would love it if somebody could tell me a reason to use linux... what can I do on linux that I can't do on windows? Literally never heard a single thing 🙃
I'm curious if you tinkered with "Flatseal" for flatpaks? flatseal is supposed to address the sandboxed permissions issues and maybe seeing other devices???
Your window problems are almost 100% caused by Zorin, that uses Gnome, so you might as well look into other distros and DEs, such as KDE Plasma. The beauty of Linux is that you can use something completely different with the same kernel and sometimes same apps and repos.
Heck, I use Debian on two laptops, same apps, same setup, but completely different desktop environments (KDE because pretty and Xfce because lightweight)
Also Ubuntu Unity is back MOFOs.
Then you use another distro and there's another issue specific to that distro and your reply will be "just use gnome / zorin / etc" :) That's exactly the type of answer just as annoying as like "just use gimp" for a windows user
@@necrisro but you can trade these problems to have one that doesn't concern you personally. Debian's biggest problem are outdated repos, but that's not a problem for server applications, where you want stability over everything. When you run XFCE, it's hideous and not intuitive for novices, but it's much lighter on system requirements.
It's all about tradeoffs that work for you personally.
"Just use another Distro"
So what if the one he switches to has other issues? Then people just say the same thing...
Setting up your system constantly is not enjoyable and can be time consuming in some cases.
@@griffin1366 no distro is the silver bullet, you choose the one whose problems don't concern you.
For future reference (and for your viewers) don't use the Nvidia driver package from their website. You can install it, and it will work but it's only a matter of time before it breaks. Use your distro's packaged Nvidia drivers instead as they won't break with system upgrades. It's possible to work around the Nvidia driver package breakage but it's pretty manual and a PITA to be honest.
do this for everything tbh
Before installing ANYTHING on Linux, you need first check - maybe there is dedicated package for your OS in Package Repository (so called, repo). These are tuned-up for your specific version of Penguin© OS.. Downloading from Nvidia's (or other vendor) website is dangerous. I know, we trust them on Windows, but they don't much care about Linux. Their install scripts can often break newer or more niche Linux deploys.
Yeah, it's weird. He talks like he has Linux experience, albeit not a lot. He talks like he did a lot of reading. But he missed that you're supposed to use your package manager and not download from websites, which won't be optimized for your version of Linux?
And, yeah, I could tell his problem was using Gnome, which is also something he would have known if he tried. Look up "Title bar doesn't show."
I don't even use Linux, but I know this stuff. It's the first thing you see on any guide on how to switch.
Edit: Heck, apparently the Nvidia website tells you not to install their driver that way.
Ah, I see you too have felt the moment of terror of rebooting after an update and suddenly, everything's in 640x480, and `nvidia-smi` is like 'lol nope'....
I switched to Linux for at least some things about 7 years ago and switched my gaming PC to Linux a few months ago. I literally never miss windows.
I can safely say, if Gnome had been the only option when I switched to Linux 3.5 years ago, I would never have switched. Luckily, there's KDE.
If the only choices were Gnome or KDE I might be running Windows today.
I used to like Gnome 2 for new users, but then Gnome 3 came along. Now I push them to Cinnamon.
@@c99kfm I genuinely liked Gnome 2 too. Gnome 2.6 in particular I ran on one machine. I've never been a fan of Gnome before then either. I always thought Gnome was hot garbage. Gnome 1 was so unstable it was laughable. I'd literally run it just for the laughs. That annoying bug buddy would pop up and I just couldn't get enough of it. Of course I'd be completely wasted out of my mind then.
Yeah. Even today Gnome feels more like a Franken-Gui or a bad clone of a Desktop but not as a real Desktop.
@@christianmontagx8461 Gnome is the product of rage so it makes sense that it resembles the monster. There was hubris involved in the creation too. So it is very much a modern Prometheus story.
The app flatseal gives you a gui to control flatpack app permissions and should let you work around some of your hardware interface issues.
And Flatpak permissions management is integrated right into KDE System Settings so there no need for separate application is needed.
A little about my own experience, since you asked ;)
I've been driving Linux since 2005, so for 19 years now. Back then I was still dual-booting for gaming for about 5 years, after which I only played native Linux games (Quake 3, Tremulous, ETQW, etc) for a while. Then Steam for Linux came out in 2013, at which point I started playing a few more games. Then Proton released in 2018, at which point I started playing a lot more. I don't play competitive games with things like Denuvo, so anything I play works OOTB on day one nowadays. I also play a lot of VR, which thanks to Valve's efforts is relatively flawless, though I do admit that issues I have sometimes don't get resolved as quickly as they should.
But well, that's all gaming, what else? I'm a software developer, so in that regard I was always blessed with superior support by software companies. Also once Docker became a thing and people switched away from using VMs to run local stacks, due to the nature of practically everything running on Linux, this was a much nicer experience compared to Windows or Mac.
Back when I was a media design apprentice, I did work a lot of with InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop. From my experience I can tell that Inkscape is a great replacement for Illustrator, as long as your work is in the RGB colorspace, so primarily for computers. There are ways to get CMYK, Pantone and other vectors out of it, but that requires a round trip through tools like Scribus. Otherwise I have to say that Inkscape delivers a lot of vectoring features which are simply missing in Illustrator and make vectoring so much nicer and easier to work with.
Speaking of which, Scribus matured a lot in the last couple of years and for desktop publishing is a good alternative to InDesign. While still a little rough around the edges, it ticks all the boxes I need when creating print products. Lastly, I cannot speak much about Photoshop really, as all the things I do in that regard are relatively simple. So for just doing some simple retouching, sure, I quickly open Gimp. For some more complex work, I use Krita, but that's it.
I also do basic CAD work, for which FreeCAD is sufficient to me, but other peoples' millage will surely vary. I also do a lot of raw photo editing, for which I personally prefer RawTherapee, though some people like Dark Tables. Personally I think that the demosaicing engine of RawTherappe is the best on the market though.
Now, things I generally struggle with:
- Zoom has no dark mode on Linux, which is extremely annoying. I currently work around that by using a Gnome extension to inver the brightness of the window, which does a semi OK job as a stopgap until Zoom finally gets their butt up.
- SteamVR has an outstanding bug which causes the Settings window not always being usable. This is just an annoyance though and does not hinder general usage.
- No movie/show streaming service supports 1080p/4k on Linux. Some do/did work with hacks, which are not a proper solution though. Saves me money though and simply makes me use alternative solutions.
- A kernel update a few months ago broke one of my USB host controllers, so I had to roll back to an older kernel and pin it to that. Not something for people who are not tech savy.
- Also Pipewire update broke sounds from my Index mic. Solved that by installing a more recent upstream version through a PPA. Again, not something for non-tech savy people.
Despite those issues I have to say though that I'm still more comfortable here than on Windows or Mac. I worked with both other systems, and even sometimes boot Windows on my laptop's secondary partition for extremely rare cases (like online proctoring when doing an online exam, which simply won't work on Linux). Each time I boot Windows up, I'm greeted with 15+ minutes of updates, which of course don't run in the background but block the entire PC), and when shutting down the same ordeal again. And at some point it didn't want to boot up at all and reported that Windows was broken, so I had to completely reinstall it. So overall, the amount of pain which Linux might cause me is outweight by a lot by what Windows does.
Gnome does not like Wayland. Your issues with Resolve are because Gnome refuses to implement server-side window decorations. And yes, there's several layers to why that's a problem. I just wanted you to have the info. Feel free to ignore it.
Gnome does like Wayland they were the earliest one to switch to it. But gnome being gnome is a snowflake and wants to do stuff their own way, I love gnome but their refusal to be interoperable at times is frustrating.
Tell that to mom that struggles to open chrome
@@FlightdeckJohnny Mom uses Resolve? Plus, said mom is not installing an operating system. Therefore, that's the fault of the person that chose to give her GNOME.
@@FlightdeckJohnny I didn't and wouldn't. I believe you have to choose Linux for yourself, not have it shoved down your throat.
@@yigitorhan7654 If Resolve has that issue, other programs do.
In kde-plasma you can build your own tiling layout and then drop your windows in with holding a hotkey. if i remember correctly, the hotkeys to open the config-gui are meta+t, but i'm not quite sure
Other alternative would be some thypical tiling-window manager, but this may be too hardcore.
Kzones might improve that even more
There is also kwin window rules, this is currently separate from the new tiling feature, with it you can have windows automatically open at specific positions and sizes and a bunch of other stuff. You can get a window how you like it manually capture it's properties and they have them applied by default in the future.
@@89Sawik Sounds like not the right solution for this use case tbh, but yeah,the KDE one is very much equivelent to Fancy Zones
@@Bureaucromancernah fancy zones work a lot better than kzones
The great (and potentially life-ruining) thing about Linux is that you can also change your window manager without moving to another distro. Your problems with Resolve not fullscreening, or file drag-and-drop not working, could possibly fix themselves on another window manager.
I have been using Mint Linux for at least 15 years. It is a joy to use. When I install Windows on pc's I am just tinkering with it reinforces the reasons I ditched it in the first place.
Maybe tiling in KDE could replace the fancyzone functionality?
KDE has many tools that might just work for that.
My first thought as well. Gnome is great but may not be the best choice here
There are plenty of tiling WM for Linux, not to mention plenty of extensions for gnome that do tiling.
KDE shift+drag allows for custom zones so would probably be perfect for this
And you can setup window rules in KDE. He just used the wrong distro for his needs.
This guy installed NVIDIA drivers from the nvidia website and survived? Wow!! (Never do that btw, install from your distro!)
I haven't used the bin file for a long time myself so it may have changed? But for the longest time it never did so I have my doubts. My doubts include him having successfully installed the driver off Nvidia's website. The first time I ever used the bin file no distro had the binary driver for Nvidia. So the bin file was the only game in town. Nvidia devs personally walked me through how to do it. You couldn't even Google how to do it then. Google didn't even exist yet. Jeeves had no clue either.
It actually even says it on the NVidia website it self they recommend to use the distro provided driver.
Right? I never seen that work in my life lol... usually ends up in X11 failing to start...
@@Salamekleikum I've installed the bin driver off Nvidia's site many times. But Nvidia techs taught me how to do it. They did that for us when they first released the driver and absolutely no one knew how to do it. The procedure may have changed since then. I haven't installed the bin driver in quite some time now myself. So I really don't know what's going on with it today. Nope just read the install instructions. It's the same deal. Although they're not telling you to make the file executable. You used to have to chmod +x it. But other than that it's all the same. You still need your kernel sources and X cannot be running. The installer has to be run from the console with X completely shut down. Which in most distros is a bit is a task to accomplish itself. If you DM boot then shutting X down is a chore. You could change your run level to single mode or maybe use systemd? I don't know I console boot. When I exit X it shuts down. Just to avoid all of that BS. I don't need no stinking DM.
Nvidia hates Linux and with good reason.
RE: Windows random reboots on Ryzen.
I ran into the exact issue you're describing, originally thinking it was Windows Update and later realizing it was too much, on both my work and home PC, a 7600X and 5600X3D respectively. The solution ended up being that I changed the default power profiles, a few times, one back in the early Zen days and a couple more with some forum community stuff. I remembered seeing in those forums about a "USB voltage dropout" thing causing random reboots though they claimed it was fixed. Reverting to the plain Windows 11-included power plans on both solved the issues immediately.
Another possibility would've been faulty drivers. DDU would've saved a huge hassle if you tried it first since it would narrowed it down to the power plans. Glad you found a fix though 👍
A view things you could do:
- Alt-F10 will toggle the maximize state of any window
- Alt-right mouse button will give you a menu for all window actions
- Alt-left mouse button will move the window
- If you use Flatpaks, you NEED Flatseal which is a Flatpak itself
- If you use Gnome, Tiling Assistant is an extension that gives you most likely all the possibilities to configure and save any tiling setup.
The lack of a PS alternative sucks. My wife is a photographer and that's why she keeps a Windows installation on her computer. Everything that runs on that installation is PS and the Canon RAW-Editor and this is everything she does in Windows. Even with this simple task, after less than a year, Windows started to do weird stuff.
At least with OBS, you can get GPU encoding working with the GStreamer plugin for the OBS Flatpak.
Meta PgUp and PgDown also do maximize/minimize, on KDE.
- Alt-left mouse button will move the window
Do you mean Windows/Super key instead of Alt?
Also, if you right click the item on the task bar, go to More and click Move.
11:30
It's probably nothing like Gimp, let alone Photoshop, but Krita is also free Linux software. Just in case anyone in the comments is feeling adventurous.
Krita is more "painting" while Gimp is more "modifying", but they do have some overlap. Between the two of them they hit quite a few notes that Photoshop covers, but it's still not 100%, and is between two programs. for some that's a deal breaker.
I love Krita for drawing and painting but not for editing or photobashing.
Krita is a fork of GIMP (forked many years ago), that is focused more on painting/drawing.
@@xerideaand it’s so much better
@@faerannewell, i use krita exclusively for photoshop. Just installing some tool brushes makes it even powerful and consistent experience around my windows, linux, Android tablet.
11:00 When I hear a user mention Adobe, I point them to Mac. Adobe doesn't do Linux. I don't do anything Adobe, that is why I can use Linux. If you use Adobe, stay on Windows. That's my rant
I have managed to set up (hookey pirate) adobe apple software painlessly on proper unix.. it's no harder than getting a nice working desktop on one of the BSD's...
@@PaulaXismcan you elaborate further on how you got it set up? Any links etc?
@@PaulaXismLet me guess… WINE?
Adobe used to do Linux a little. I remember using their Acrobat reader for Linux. At one time it was a must have app.
Handy thing for moving windows in most Linux desktop environments, If you hold the Alt or Super (Windows) key, you can move the window from anywhere inside the window. That minor convenience is the majority of the reason why I love Linux so much.
And resize the window by using Alt+RightMouseButton. Small things but so awesome. And there is many more that the window manager for KDE Plasma offers. So awesome.
Every dan time i had to precisely aim at the edge of a damn window on Windows AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 👿
I use Gimp, but I also recognize that it is NOT a Photoshop replacement. Your 'they're not the same thing' rant may be the best and most hilarious one I've ever heard. Do not give me a Natty Ice if I want an IPA!
I did a 30 day Linux switch 3 years ago now and never went back. Like you I have other machines that I can go to in a pinch. I would suggest giving KDE Plasma a try for its window management. I also started on Gnome, but have settled in to KDE because it's just more flexible overall I think.
The things that I've found hard to do: Real PDF editing and redacting (see also Adobe sucks there too), and occasional MS Office irregularities (formatting of older documents, VBA, etc). For both of these, I keep a VM with Windows installed just in case. That said, it's gotten significantly better over the last couple of years and I find myself having to start the VM less and less.
it's not a replacement, it's an alternative.
Stirling pdf might be worth a look for you it's a nice suite of open source pdf tools you can run as a web app
Well, the "they are not the same thing rant " is based on the fact that they are not the same thing!
So saying that on the Linux fan boys is straight misleading.
It is possible to run Photoshop and other adobe products under wine. The only part that doesn't work is the installer.
For PDF creation and editing and also as a verry good MS office replacement, I recommend ONLYOFFICE (its far better than libre office).
I'm probably moving to linux soon.
The windows recall 'feature' being the final straw.
My biggest hurdle has always been gaming, but since owning a launch steamdeck that issue has been fixed. Almost every game i own just works fine in linux now..
Glad i don't do a lot of video capture/editing though, that seems to be the last remaining issues 😋
You're switching because of a feature that isn't available on your Windows PC or any other?
Yeah, Recall is scary. I mean, you don't have to enable it, FOR NOW, but that will only last so long.
Do you have a Recall capable machine? (40 Tops+ NPU)
I would highly recommend Nobara Linux. That distro tweaks the kernal and has an ISO that has NVIDIA drivers installed by default. I'm a casual gamer only playing 1-2 games (Heroes of the Storm and Sims 4) but both games have worked flawlessly. It uses KDE as it's desktop environment.
@@dansanger5340 What point are you trying to make? Are you saying Recall is a conspiracy theory and not an announced feature by Microsoft themselves?
I've been running Linux since around 1996 on my home servers and in parallel with Windows on my main machine. Since April 8, 2014 (when WindowsXP went EOL) I'm just running Linux on all my machines. Couldn't be happier.
I apologize if other people are gonna mention this, but KDE Plasma has a really useful window snapping feature where you can make custom layouts. It's not gonna be the exact same thing as Fancy Zones. Definitely try something like Kubuntu in the future and see if that works out better for window management
Comments are full of people saying "You expect it to work like Windows". No, I just wanted it to actually work! I've driven KDE Plasma desktops before, and might need to take another look to see if that fits my needs.
@@CraftComputing Yeah, that sucks and I’m sorry. This feature was added in 5.27. Let me know if it changes anything about your experience or if you like it.
@@CraftComputing I only saw like, one comment saying that, 99% of comments about it are just saying don't use Gnome.
i think plasma 6 have fancy zones implemented
@@CraftComputingHi. In fact, KDE 5 Is on kubuntu 24.04 LTS. It may have all the features you need...
BUT,
KDE 6 is here on bleeding edge/rolling releases distro. Nvidia beta 555 are changing a lot of things with Nvidia too and this driver may not available on Kubuntu. Also, pipewire/wayland change everything (and it's becoming a reality with 555 drivers and KDE 6.1)
So, Is it the year of Linux? I will reply : no. BUT it arrives and new LTS distributions will be insane with Nvidia.
The problem is most of distribution will need to perform some postinstall things.
Thank you for sharing your story.
As an IT person, I personally find that Linux as a daily driver gives me enough footgun to get stuff I need done in a way that works well with my brain, My work mainly involves terminal, text files, containers, and golang programming. All things that are not as good on Windows, But if I was using excel, photoshop, or something corporate manage, I would probably end up with Windows.
Granted, I spent multiple years on my own time using Linux, I know its ins and outs well, I know the ecosystem, and I know myself.
If you have only used windows, then switching to anything else for serious work is just a learning curve, no matter it is, which can be hard to justify when it equals lost time/money at the end of the day.
At the end, its all about "Did I have a better time using the new tool inefficiently than using the older tool as I knew it?"
For me, that was a yes, For you, that is a different story, Hopefully your windows grade is above a B- in that regard.
Since my first OS was Apple DOS, I am not at all intimidated by a CLI. I think that's really the obstacle for most people. The percentage of people alive today who were using a personal computer prior to the launch of Windows 95 are relatively small. And, of the people who were, the percentage who were power users was small. And even if you knew MS-DOS like the back of your hand, Linux is a different language. And, if you didn't study a foreign language to the point of fluency when you were young, it is very difficult to learn a new language later in life. So, if you're over 30 and didn't have any of these experiences in the past, you are going to find it next to impossible to use Linux. Sure, you could install something like Mint and just make do with the apps that are bundled with it but if you can't even install software on a PC, what's the point of using that OS? You will never have parity of usability with Linux that even the most uninformed Windows user has unless you can navigate using the terminal. And, while there are app stores of sorts bundled with some distros, the whole thing about open source is having options and such an approach will either inundate you with choices or limit them. I might spend hours reading forum and blog posts about a particular type of software and look at all the options before I decide. But this is a better way than just randomly picking something from a short and limited list in the dark.
For Linux to become widely popular, it will take effort on the part of individuals to earn it for themselves. You have to want it. It doesn't just fall in your lap like Windows or MacOS.
When I was a kid they said that future generations would all be PC super users and everyone would be proficient at coding, lol. Well, if that had been true, Windows and MacOS wouldn't exist in 2024. Instead, people would be trying to decide between Linux and FreeBSD. There would be 10x as many distros and 1000x the software.
@@Lurch-Botyou can install software on basically every distro without touching the command line though, almost every distro supports Flatpak and has an app store. Same for almost any setting you might need to change, it doesn't require the command line as it might have 10 years ago
@@dylan_00 sure scrolling around for an hour in Discover seems to be what you like but apt and dpkg get the job done way faster
WPS office is the best MS office replacement in my experience: docs made in one just work in the other.
Sorry, but people are stupid to compare a paid software with a open source/free software. Especially, because that type of people don´t want to do any donation, help the community, or open a bug ticket for example. People complain but don´t do anything, and compare with a paid software.
I've switched to Linux lately (couple months ago). PopOS has been fantastic. Especially with the tiling turned on.
Outside of the OBS issues, don't get me started on the Nvidia SDK not existing on Linux so no magic background removal etc. I find that using workspaces in Pop has been game changing. Ctrl+mod(usually windows key)+arrow key up/down... Amazing.
I've tried i3 and Sway for window managing, but keep coming back to Pop's solution.
Have davinci open full screen, hit the hotkey, view the file browser/chrome. Hit the opposite hotkey, and you're back on davinci.
I also 100% agree, GIMP is not Photoshop. And they are remarkably different and the muscle memory change + feature parity is not there.
I suppose I just did the 30 Days Of Linux Challenge too.
By happenstance... For a completely different reason.
Linux has been my primary daily driver since about 1995 (Slackware). But I always kept some sort of secondary Windows install around, usually as a Dual-Boot, sometimes on a backup laptop. Often because of gaming, but now Proton is good enough that it's not necessary.
After the news about Recall dropped, and thinking about how Win10 will be dead soon... I decided to take the plunge and delete my last Win10 install.
It feels liberating.
I am also close to deleting win11 partitions on my three main pcs - one OS less to maintain: under win11 I always need to do the "normal" updates, then the apps in ms-apps-store and then the apps and system addons in wingetui. I only do this because I want to have fully functional backup systems under win11 in case arch fails/breaks.
Windows users have Stockholm syndrome. They are convinced they can’t do better and that no other OS will support them while windows constantly abuses it’s users by collecting it’s users data and trying to make it as difficult as possible to not use edge.
It’s liberating once you no longer have to fight Microsoft.
Once Linux has enough of a user base I’m sure the software compatibility issues will solve themselves as devs actually start building Linux versions of their apps. I just hope it doesn’t take another couple decades for enough people to jump ship that businesses actually care. Luckily between Microsoft recall and adobe’s recent controversy there are a few reasons to give Linux a shot right now.
Same reason I did. Couldn't get there, but I'll keep trying. Once 10 goes out of support, I'm gonna switch no matter what.
@@Christobanistan Why would you care about win10 support? For the couple of things I still need windows for, I use a Win7 VM, or Win7 on bare metal (in one case on a piece of test equipment that originally ran XP before I upgraded it with a new mobo/ram/cpu internally - you can run the software in 7, but not anything later) - as long as it's not connected directly to the internet, and you're not a bozo that clicks on unknown links, it's fine
In Linux, you can move any window by holding Alt while you click and drag any point within the window. You can resize in the same way with Ctrl+Alt
Another consideration for endeavouring Linux users - *use your workspaces!* Windows recently adopted this idea of separate spaces for different tasks as a built-in feature, and the ability to just make window layouts at-will using workspaces will stop a lot of widow sizing hassles from occurring - _so long_ you remember what workspace a window is in.
Also, take advantage of your pager's ability to sort through windows _of a specific class._ In many instances you can create an assignment which will let you switch between windows of the same application, if they are exposed to the pager - as in, seeing them in your window list. It's handy! And if you have multiple windows of the _same_ application across _different_ workspaces (i.e. your file manager), you can tab through all windows for that application.
I'm on my 16th year of my switch to Linux experiment. Never going back.
For me, close to 1.
Same there buddy. I've started when I was only 15. My big bro was so tired to have to fix the computer all the time that he decided that thing should changes. I would never thank him enough to make that choice, it really changed the way I see the world of computers. (and now I can clearly say I just *like* to use it…=
30 years this autumn. It was magic, and way better than DOS.
On my 21st.
LOL, the moment you realize half his problems were Gnome™
Also I'd recommend Krita or Photoshop(via a VM or CodeWeavers CrossOver. Former is better) before recommending Gimp.
WinApps for Linux video by The Linux Experiment:
/watch?v=fzzf2QnyPgY
One problem that persisted through the video, but let's not pretend I didn't mention 20 other issues inside apps, with more pinned in the comments that I didn't fit into the video.
@@CraftComputing Both the lack of auto tiling and the window decoration issues are Gnome specific here.
@@Megalomaniakaal audio probably gnome some how too, and video rendering. I tested both last night and have no issues lmao. Gnome infects and kills it all
@@gg-gn3re I've definitely had some audio issue, albeit small ones, on KDE too.
The Davinci issue is because of Gnome, switch to KDE and that will fix your issue. I would recommend the Fedora KDE version.
I think the biggest hurdle for most new linux users is unlearning windows. Most people's first experience is with windows. From the public library to schools and even most work places all run windows. So switching to linux after 10+ years of windows is quite stark.
...or, if they play any games, then it is also a BIG problem...
In case of games, there is no "unlearn" the issue.
Picking up a new piece of software requires discarding all of the time, energy, and effort you put in to learn the one you are replacing. That can be a very significant activation barrier when it comes to sophisticated software like that used for video creation. I mean, you wouldn't just up and replace your kickass $4000 rig that you spent the last year piecing together ... just so you can put in the latest new video card . . (Or maybe some would.)
@@GyulaTube-du4eg What's the problem with games?
My first OS was Apple DOS and I've been dabbling in Linux off and on for 20 years, waiting for it to actually be useful to me and it is just about there. I got an Orange Pi 5+ this year and really didn't have too much trouble setting it up with Ubuntu. Because of a medical issue, I haven't been able to do much with it yet and, while it is totally usable as a general purpose PC right now, I just have too many windows PCs around my house, lol.
@@Yotanido valve makes a good work with proton actually, but games with anticheat like fornite dont work on linux, now its better but not the best experience.
I'm surprised all the hardware worked with so few headaches. Your window management headaches were surprising, I use kde and I've always thought one of linux's greatest strengths was it's windows management. Of course I'm not using the number of programs you're using. This was a very enlightening video.
Yesterday i attempted to install debian, mint and than ubuntu none of them worked i had issues starting the installer with black screen or no hdmi signal. Managed to start ubuntu somehow but later drivers where a huge issue! Yet linux boast its super comatible runs on anything… right..
Gimp is not quite as bad as everyone says.
Gimp does require a different workflow, but since it is made by programmers there are a ton of scripting and plugin options. Doing a 30 day challenge in Gimp could be an option.
Or you could just dedicate 4 cores to a windows VM and Photoshop 🙂
GIMP challenge would make a great video
I think the reason all the linux people say "just use gimp" is because they switched 10, 15, or more years ago, and at that time gimp was equivalent, and has been meeting their needs since - I haven't used photoshop in decades, so I have no idea what features it has now that it didn't used to have, nor do I really care - I don't miss what I don't have, nor do I do any serious photo editing, so no biggie for me
For the OBS flatpak PCI issue, if I recall correctly there should be a way to allow pci access via flatseal app. Basically it's a permission manager for flatpak apps.
KDE over Gnome for the desktop solves a bunch of your issues and gives you additional features for layouts. To be fair to it, you were also relying on an external program on Windows (PowerToys).
As for Flatpak headaches, Flatseal helps significantly in managing what your Flatpaks have access to.
I have been using linux for all my office for for nearly 10 years. I have found that it is a much more reliable and stable environment for office work. No random updates at critical moments. All software updated with one click.
I have been using Linux since the late 90's, switching over completely by 2002. In those days, you needed a much more intimate knowledge of your computer hardware to get it running, not to mention learning a whole new lot of software and finding software alternatives. Linux provided me with the best education I could ever have had in computing than the point and click world of Windows, and it has been an enjoyable experience that has benefitted me greatly in my working career.
I feel your pain. You have to work hard and be ever more ingenious in your approach to solutions, but that is part of the fun. But I will tell you, all the frustrations you have trying to use Linux are felt by Linux users like me when we have to sit down at a Windows computer. We have all the same hassles, having to learn new ways of doing the same things. As ever, having choice is a wonderful thing.
I enjoyed your review. I have been using Linux for 24 years and I agree with you on most of your points. Although I started my computing on a Vax mainframe running Unix in 1981, I faced similar issues when I moved to Linux from Windows and Mac. I needed specific elements of certain software applications that Linux just didn't provide. I did eventually find ways around these issues. In particular, I use LaTex for very technical word-processing and typesetting, where previously I used Word. I also hopped distros, display managers etc until I found the one that best suited my needs. Where I think most Linux reviews falter is in the familiarity bias inherent in new users. That is not to say that your observations are not correct. They indeed are! However, your needs are highly specific and your professional world has revolved around the use of very specific tools, tools which I posit 90% of users will never need. In your case I would agree that Linux may not be the best tool, and that really is OK. I'm not a gamer at all, and Linux is getting better at this, but gamers would probably agree with you. Again, Linux may not be the right tool for the job, just like anything else in life, but I would rather pay a small inconvenience than have a large corporation control my actions and monetise me in the process, but that is just my humble opinion.
Some of your window management issues, especially with DaVinci Resolve, were likely just caused by Gnome. I highly recommend trying something like Linux Mint or another non-Gnome distro to solve some of that the next time you give Linux a shot. It won't fix _all_ of your problems with window management, but it will help fix at least some of them.
Hopefully in a few years you'll find Linux daily-drivable enough to fully switch :)
Nope, Zorin runs on X11 on Nvidia, and Resolve runs through Xwayland, too. This decorations issue also exists in e.g. KDE which does support server side decorations, so it's not a DE issue but rather a Resolve issue which actively asks to not decorate itself for some reason.
For FancyZones, KDE basically has it. You might prefer something like Debian with KDE or Fedora with KDE, since some of your issues where due to the GUI Zorin uses (Gnome). KDE is an alternative GUI which is more for power users.
Since you are using Zorin, you can simply save a workspace in the activities view. Then, whenever you want to stream, open up that workspace and it should have all windows pre-initialized and positioned properly.
GIMP is not the same, it's true. It does not require you to give them your entire work so they can train their AI, and lock you out of your library if you refuse the new terms. And it's not only going to be Adobe. The MBAs running all these companies are really trying to turn all software to a service these days. If you want what you learn about a software to remain relevant over time, after they betray the initial terms that you agreed for when you first purchased, it looks like your only option is sticking with open source. Windows 11 is looking pretty scary these days too.
The fact that Adobe is claiming ownership of your work…that might be enough to make Linux happen.
Nah, let's be honest, most people will just lube up and take it like the masochists they are.
If they actually did that, their users would revolt. Violently. With millions of lawsuits.
@@Christobanistan Adobe’s new ToS gives Adobe the full right to reproduce and distribute your work (for advertising purposes).
@@jon4715 Which work?
Everything you produce in your adobe suite @@Christobanistan
I been doing the linux challenge since 2005... I don't know maybe gotta do it for another 20 years to decide if I can do it for the rest of my life.
I can't do the 30 day challenge because I switched to Linux over 20 years ago.
Try using Windows for 30 days. 😄
Same here.
My Dad got a nice mini-pc( AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS, 32GB DDR5 5600, 2TB Gen4 SSD, 2x2.5 Gbit NIcs) for easter that came with windows 11 professional pre-installed so I decide to daily drive it for a month to see where we are at in 2024.
I installed my linux distro of choice a week later. That thing was infuriating.
Funny thing is we have better gaming performance under Linux on all the games my dad plays (currently Baldur's Gate 3, Stellaris and Total War: Warhammer III) than on Win 11.
@@patpopov As another 20 year Linux user (I started with Debian Potato), my current job has forced me to use Windows for several years. It's not fun. The OS keeps working against me and doing things I don't want it to do. Part of it is the domain system, how some IT staff here have created policies for all workstations including mine.
For instance, whenever I run a software which wants to access multiple files (e.g. a compiler or a package manager) the Windows antivirus whatever ("Shield"?) feels the need to scan every individual file, even if it did so ten minutes ago.
My job probably loses at least 5-10% of the time they're paying me for to me just waiting for Windows to allow my tools to run, and that's not counting how my flow is disrupted, causing me to take longer to get back into my code.
Firefox is preinstalled, which should be great, but it's always an old version - I can upgrade manually, but then the domain stuff downgrades it automatically, and the downgrade breaks compatibility with my profile, which means I lose my tabs and plugins.
And those upgrades..."not now" works, a couple of times, but then it always decides to do them just when I'm in the flow. Or when I'm trying to start my computer up for a meeting. "96% complete", yeah right.
Anyway, long story short, I now have a Linux box running at work, and boy do I appreciate it even more than I used to. My workplace provides the web versions of Office, so I run Outlook and Team in a browser, which solves meetings and calendar stuff, and I was using JetBrains IDEs anyway. Oh, and the box is an old computer that was about to get trashed, because it couldn't be upgraded to Windows 11.
well, you've made it at least 7,300 days - see if you can make it 10,000 then...
I'm a daily driver linux user and I write software. I love that the programming environment isn't an esoteric mess like the windows SDK is, but instead, less of an esoteric mess under POSIX, use Sway as my window manager of choice. My main pain point is networking with wi-fi adapters as in order to use them, you need drivers, but the drivers don't exist on your machine. If I ever fell without a spare wired network connection or spare device with networking capabilities, I would be in the dark and under a rock. Audio for me has been fine since pipewire became broadly standard as an audio backend. I actually find it harder to live on windows as I do not have my TMUX I've grown so accustommed to and to be frank, the windows command line is frankly straight up unusable for vimming IMO with how slow they are.
I keep a number of usb Ethernet adapters on hand for those situations. Saved my bacon a few times
In the future I would recommend looking out for Intel WiFi chipsets/general networking equipment since my experience with their products has had good support and been flawless in their execution.
@@Fractal_32Intel has always been good with linux kernel modules.
Never got used to sway; guess tiling isn't my thing. But it's nice to see someone else using a light-weight wayland compositor.
I recently switched from fluxbox to labwc, which is updated regularly in Arch Linux, is quite configurable, and supports waybar and a bunch of sway/wl-roots programs. Yeah, pipewire is great. I miss wmctrl (wlrctl is less powerful) and some xwayland isn't terrific, but it's so nice not to have to deal with screen tearing any more!
@@nathanbanks2354 If you were talking to me when I started dailying linux, I'd say the same, then I forced myself to try i3 and give it a shot and then got used to it, then I loved it. Same thing with vim.
Pretty much every described (technical) issue can be solved by using KDE Neon or some other plasma based distro and installing software exclusively with apt, not snap or flatpak.
However, I 100% agree that this should not have to be the case.
| However, I 100% agree that this should not have to be the case. |
Thank you for understanding the larger point I was making. KDE sounds like will definitely help out with window management, however, I'd hesitate at saying 'all my issues'. There was a lot more in this video than just FancyZones :-)
@@CraftComputing oh, I know.
| OBS not able to use capture card |
Zorin is... I won't say unique, but almost such in serving obs as a flat pack by default. Most distros serve it as an apt package, which would not have had this problem.
| Davinci not able to maximize |
This is due to Davinci assuming that decorations like the maximize/close button being provided by the window manager. Gnome is the only modern window manager that does not provide (or even override) these by default.
I'll be honest, I skipped the last couple minutes because ADHD brain go brrrr, but if you had the same discord complaint 95% of the community has, the need for manual .Deb updates can be solved with the use of a PPA which updates the discord package automatically with the rest of the system.
Edit: Just saw your other comment
The discord capture card is the same issue as OBS - flatpaks and snaps are to be avoided like the plague. Zoom treats itself as a floating window which unfortunately makes it incompatible with many tiling window managers. Your resolve issues I can only assume are down to the fact that resolve is still in Beta on linux. The chrome thing is a "security feature" by Google that I don't remember how to disable, and the file manager... I don't actually know. I've never heard of that one.
On another note, I'd like to add one problem you may not have encountered but has been driving me nuts in case anyone else sees this - I cannot find any software that supports even basic PDF editing on Linux. Can't even paste on a text signature.
It's not perfect, but I use LibreOffice Draw for editing PDF files. Even with that, every line in a paragraph gets separated! I have seen someone use Sejda, but that's for online PDF edits. Maybe one day, we could get a complete, native PDF edtior once and for all (⌣́_⌣̀)
@@WoodenPlankGames did the app PDF4QT work ?
As everyone pointed out to you, there are many desktop environments and window managers on Linux. The problems you were experiencing is really just because of poor choice in your setup. Most of the problems you had do not exist in different DEs or if you set up a tiling manager yourself. It is quite difficult to know this if you are not a long term Linux user, but it is something you need to be aware of. There are also various issues of wayland vs x11 where some things just might not work if you have incorrect set up. You should look into changing out your config and making a follow-up video. It might be a better idea to try a better Linux distro with KDE in it first, just so you can compare with your previous experience.
Having been daily driving Linux for almost 3 years, and for me the best thing about linux is that for almost all the issues I have faced, can be solved, I just don't know how yet. The worst thing has been the amount of work and time that goes into making things work when ever they don't. On windows it was usually fine because "It's windows can't really do anything about it being a dumpster fire anyways" but on linux I always know that it's just skill issues so it's so not something can just dismiss and live with as easily.
Linux is fine... ...if your time has no value. 🤗
HEY, perfect timing! I switched a few months ago. I LOVE IT!
The window tiling problems encountered during your challenge are more related to the window manager or its implementation in the distribution used.
As you did your test under ZorinOS, it must therefore be Gnome.
Have you done the latest upgrade (ZorinOS is based on Ubuntu which went to 24.04) and if so, have you installed the "Tilling Assistant" plugin? Because it is made for that...
The problem with Photoshop is that the publisher does not want to make the effort to make a clean port or at least an effort for Wine compatibility on its application.
Just like Windows has become an extension of Azure and no longer a product in itself.
Furthermore, changing platforms often involves having to adapt your workflow and the fact that it is not a workflow around a mastered solution does not mean that there is no viable alternative.
In fact, Microsoft and the publishers developing for its centralized platform are in the position of IBM before the emergence of the "Personal Computer", MS-DOS and Windows, and the market is only waiting for an opportunity to switch to new solutions...
I've been using Linux since MS drop support for win 7, and what I can see is that most of your issues are Gnome and not Linux, as for photoshop I have never ever have to use it in my entire life, but when I always need to do something on a specific program or app I do it on a VM I was able to convert my windows 7 pc into a virtual disk and it works like a charm and also I don't have to worry about safety because is a VM as well as Mac
PD. It's like a triple boot without the hassle of rebooting
For your AAC issue, you can try installing the restricted codecs which put the paid codecs back on any linux system. There should be documented instructions since it sounds like Zorin OS is a Debian or Ubuntu derivative. Ethically conscience free imho, but they cant ship with it.
He mentioned that OBS defaulted to recording in AAC, so he's definitely already got the restricted codecs installed. It's likely a limitation coded into DaVinci Resolve itself, not a missing package.
I'm using the gSnap GNOME extension as a FancyZones replacement and it works pretty well. I suggest enabling the "Hold CTRL to snap windows" option in the extension's settings so you can control which windows get "snapped"
2500 comments, and this is one of the first recommendations that didn't require me nuking the entire install just to switch to a KDE distro. Thank you!
@@CraftComputing Unfortunately gSnap gets broken every time GNOME updates and the switch to Wayland didn't help it at all. Last I heard it still doesn't work correctly in 46.
@@CraftComputing Unfortunately, you seem to have specific requirements, so you should expect specific suggestions to meet them. One of the major downsides of Gnome is that while you can add extensions to get the functionality that you want they break on every Gnome update and you'll (rightfully) be complaining about that when it happens. Better to bite the bullet and switch to KDE which will do what you need it to do now, and the functionality won't be constantly breaking.
Gnome is pretty, but the requirement to use extensions to make it functional are annoying. After I abandoned it for KDE, my "dalliances" with Linux stopped and I've since switched over full time. The Gnome devs seem to value simplicity over functionality which is why I've disliked it since the Gnome 2.0 days personally. I hated having to use a half dozen extensions to get my desktop to do what I wanted.
Either way, good luck to you.
@@CraftComputing Installing KDE doesn't require nuking your install. You just install it, like you would anything else--through the package manager.
I was surprised that any Linux didn't immediately tell you to use the package manager and not to install stuff from websites. None of the stuff from the websites will be optimized for your version of Linux.
KDE has better window management stuff. You can assign auto move/size rules and force the window sizes whether the app likes it or not.
I switched over to Linux ~2-3 years ago. I began with buying a laptop to install Pop_OS on while studying to become a DevOps Engineer, and I transitioned my work station to Linux about 3-4 months ago. I have avoided most problems by staying on Linux Mint on my main PC, but Pop_OS is usually my go to when it comes to laptop
Btw, I use Gimp
Get rid of Gnome!! Any other WM or DE will do exactly what you need without hiding the min, max, exit buttons.
All of your UI issues are with Gnome, period.
I've switch from Windows to Linux back in 2008 and never looked back. I had to dual boot (of course) because back then there were some things that would only work on Windows. Now things are ALMOST even in terms of software usage.
In contrast to how Windows functions for him (Craft Computing), ZORIN is a no-go for what he wants Linux to do.
That’s another thing the Linux community loves to say and doesn’t understand why new Linux users are confused/frustrated ‘oh, you picked the wrong distro, you want X, Y, or Z instead’. The Linux landscape is simply too fractured for wide scale adoption by non-‘computer’ people. Also, ‘I taught my mom to use Linux’ is another response that needs to end.
@@tbone98761234 - It goes like this... There is an abundance of window managers and interfaces available for LINUX. So, have all other choices been exhausted to the point where "I've tried them all and none of them worked to my satisfaction"? If so, that's fine. If not, then all of this is pure hypothesis without any real-world experience.
@@tbone98761234 The most boring option is Linux Mint, which will also just work. It doesn't even provide a Gnome 3 (what caused most of Craft's issues) version, and has native (in-distro) versions of all the things he downloaded off the internet (causing some other of his issues).
I did a quick Google, "windows power user switching to linux which distribution", the top hit (reddit) has four of the top five answers suggesting Mint, with the fifth advising to test distros in a VM before switching.
I'm currently in the process of switching to linux after nearly 25 years of using windows. I have installed mint on a vm and use it as my daily driver for some time now, been doing so for 2 days now and not missing windows yet
Zorin OS is likely the cause of your window management issues. Try out a different OS or desktop environment and you'll probably have a better time.
@@manitoba-op4jx And then there are KDE specific issues and you'll answer will be "use gnome that doesn't happen there" :) It's a cyclical problem inducing response, it's not a solution
So the ui window management stuff is not a Linux issue - it's the desktop environment that you chose, which from the sound of things was gnome, which is famously uncooperative if you have specific ui config needs. I'd have gone with kde, other good options are available.
Linux is just the kernel, remember. The user space software environment that runs on it is your own choice, and there are many choices available that cover a range of use cases from granny to poweruser, and it seems like you chose granny and got frustrated that it didn't bundle poweruser ui functionality.
Lots of other good points though, esp. availability of specialist software. I'm glad matlab runs on Linux or I genuinely would have had to run Windows on my machine. I'm lucky that my specialist requirements all run native on *nix.
I always tell my students that the best tool to use to solve a problem is the one in which you can create a solution in which you have confidence. That might mean Windows for some, Mac for others. It's pretty rare for the answer to "What did you use to prepare this report?" to be "LaTex!"
But here is an more personal example. I often need to create an image (for an exam question or something.) I can do it using my tool of choice, MS Paint, in a minimum of time. And so while Gimp would be the better choice for doing all the image creation things, it is useless to me if I have to learn it while bucking a deadline.
Here's the truth. "Just use Gimp!" is gatekeeping. "Here is how you use Gimp to create that image ..." would be must more useful (although still a bit of gatekeeping.) "You're dumb for using MS Paint when Gimp is so much better" is just being . . well, an asshole. Maybe it is something more understandable and excusable, but that is a question for Dave of Dave's Garage. But it means nothing to a person who has already finished the job for which Gimp was being suggested.
While there is truth to "it is useless to me if I have to learn it while bucking a deadline" there is also the other side of the coin. Take a hypothetical person that's coming from Mac and wanting to be on linux asking for a replacement for safari, they will be told to jus use firefox cause it's also a web browser and should handle their use case. If the mac person then says that they refuse to use firefox because the menu buttons are in a different order and it doesn't integrate with their apple account directly then no firefox will not be a good replacement for them but the only answer there is is "use the equivalent tooling, you just need to take the time to learn how to use it the same way you did the original tooling you were using" that while yes is not what they want to hear on a deadline but no ones ever forced them to learn it on a deadline... just to take the time if they wanted to become a linux user on their own rhythm
The Linux equivalent to MS Paint is KolourPaint. It's much faster than GIMP for simple image manipulation.
Maybe Krita instead of Gimp?
LMFAO
Krita will let you install AI for background fill, but not sure about background removal. Although I've seen some background removal from online tools, so I think it must be possible.
Chris Titus Tech did this challenge in 2018, it was rough for him (Photoshop => GIMP), now it is his primary system. You can do it! I have been Windows-free for over 4 years now.
But Chris Titus Tech used stuff like Final Cut Pro on his Macintosh but i think he uses Resolve now.
@@gx1tar1er I know for certain that he currently uses DaVinci Resolve. He records with Opus-audio, that works fine. But I get his problem, if you use devices with bad software-support (only Apple audio-CoDec) then it sucks that DaVinci Resolve doesn't support AAC. But this is a DaVinci Resolve problem, not a Linux problem, DaVinci Resolve could make it possible for the user to use some tool on his system for AAC, then the user would be responsible for using that. On Linux plenty of tools do use AAC. As I see it the fundamental problem here is that these devices like his camera only support a proprietary and lower quality (compared to Opus) audio-CoDec.
@@peterjansen4826 It's funny that "professionals" use consumer grade equipment and complain about "profesional" software not supporting there garbage. Last time I checked Blackmagic Design was selling professional equipment while, sorry to say it, Adobe Premiere is a freakish hybrid of editing and composing software with the look and feel of an overgrown home user video editor.
Not too long ago editng and composing have been diffrent steps in video production and where done in different software by different people often even on different machines. Video rendering and video transcoding where also done as seperate steps.
I honestly don't like the direction video production went thanks to Final Cut, Sony Vegas and Adobe Premiere.
Often times when I look at what these self thought "content creators" do in thre projects I could scream but it is what it is. We exist in the age of the dilettante who believe themself to be a professional...
We're all rooting for you. Stay clean!
@@1pcfred So far no withdrawal. 😆
You're using zorn with gnome. No wonder you're having issues.
Best alternatives to Photoshop are Krita and GIMP (with Photogimp patch). You can also use Inkscape, but it's not exactly a replacement to Photoshop. However if you really rely on Photoshop, there is no good alternative, so maybe you should use it in a Virtual Machine with Windows inside or dual boot with Windows
The GIMP thing is very annoying. It’s not photoshop and it never will be. I wish it could get the same treatment as Blender. Obviously the Blender team has some artists working on the project who actually understand what good user interfaces look like, as well as talented programmers who are interested in bringing cutting edge features to the program.
Surely GIMP 3 will bring some dev motivation into the project, but I assume it suffers from issues similar to Libreoffices (Too much tech debt and dusty legacy code)
@@tedzards509 I would also posit, not enough designers/artists. It seems very much designed by programmers, and I say that as a programmer. They need a UX expert, and at least one artist to help make it more usable and to not look like trash.
About window management, maybe you have to use a KDE desktop. Gnome is much more limited in that role. KDE is much more flexible
GNOME in their infinite wisdom doesn't implement window decorations, ie the top bar of the window, they say that its the app developers obligation to do so. Don't use GNOME unless you want to constantly face dumb issues, people say KDE 6 and above is way better than gnome. Regarding photoshop, I know its a pain to set it up, but in the TH-camrs case it would be benificial to slap an AMD GPU for Linux and, since you have a threadripper CPU you can run a VM for more Windows dependent with a dedicated NVIDIA GPU and, Looking glass tying everything together you can litterally have full blown windows and its features on a workspace change and have Linux running everything, theres guides from Level1Techs about this use case
I agree with this sentiment. (I wish I had bought ThreadRipper or EPYC instead of Zen 4 purely for the PCIE lanes.)
@@Fractal_32 sounds more like a mainboard problem.
You do know that for hardware encoding/decoding you don't need the 16 pcie lanes lat alone on pcie 5 and that greedvidia doesn't even support pcie5 on there 40XX generation hell even pcie 3 x16 is fast enough for a 4090 to loose less than 10% of it's render and RT performance. If you have a good mainboard with AMD X670E Chipset you should have all the PCIE lanes you need and you don't have to put 3 SSDs on the board just because there a 3 slots...
@@DJDocsVideos no my board has a lot of physical PCIE lanes. The issue is I need lanes from the CPU because I’m doing GPU pass through into virtual machines and other PCIE heavy applications.
Also more PCIE lanes is appreciated because I run my system as a workstation rather than a normal gaming PC.
Resolve issue has nothing to do with GNOME, do your research first. Zorin OS (and GNOME) runs on X11 on Nvidia by default, and also Resolve runs on X11, too. This no decorations issue also exists on KDE which does implement server side decorations, so it's Resolve actively asking to not decorate itself which is causing the issue, not using specific DE.
I started using Linux in 2009, and I switched fully to Linux seven years ago. No dual-boot. I gave up Windows completely, and I can honestly say that life is far better. Anyone who thinks they need Adobe simply didn't want to take the time to learn the alternatives. If you've been using Adobe for a decade, it's ridiculous to think you can just pick up GIMP where PS left off. You need months, if not years, to become the same level of expert. There is literally *_Nothing_* you can accomplish in Photoshop which I could not achieve the same end result with GIMP. We might not click the same buttons to get there, but it is 100% a dedication issue.
Except, if you're a designer working for a company that uses Adobe as their standard, you HAVE to stick with Adobe.
@@zerotactix5739 Not true in all cases. The last large corporation I made media for, the marketing department offered me a CC license, but I said no thank you. No one on their team needed to open my files. I used Ardour to record my VO, I made my textures in GIMP, I animated my assets in Blender, and put it all together with KDEnlive.
Some of the issues that you’ve had are particular to the brand you chose. Zorin. Some other distributions are less austere.
That said, try wine, or play on Linux or just use a VM with a windows instance and load your photoshop in that
The open source community is its own worst enemy
Your backstory is perfectly representative of the general public's attitude towards switching operating systems:
They won't do it because of any appeal Linux or any other OS has. They'll only consider it once the user experience with what they're used to gets so bad that they can't take it anymore.
They won't even do that. They'd rather not use a computer than use Linux and deal with the nut jobs that come with it. Plus, 99% of people don't even care about these problems. If they cared, Linux wouldn't have dropped below 4% on Statcounter again.
Been on linux since the beginning of this year. Would recommend Fedora with KDE, more stable than arch but still pretty up to date (Mint wouldn't recognize my 7900gre even on the most recent supported kernel). Only downside so far is that doom 3 doesn't run out of the box (there's a source port, I'm just too lazy to set it up right now).
I did a 30-year Linux challenge, it's not a challenge anymore, it "just works". I'm so happy I ditched Windows for good.
Ya probably using the same apps from 30 years ago too :)
The biggest change for the better, was replacing Gnome with Xfce4, and switching from libvirt virtual machines, to LXC containers (VM's still have use cases of course). A lot of apps remained the same, though there have been a few significant improvements, and a few new additions.
I also felt like I couldn't switch to Linux completely because of the 1 or 2 Windows apps I couldn't replace and all the VST's I had. Finally I just got so sick and tired of Windows and had enough. I decided I would switch fully to Linux and make do with whatever replacements I had to use, even if it meant going back to the stone age.
Now I don't miss those Windows apps and I'm so glad to be rid of Windows ( I still have to use it at work but that can't be changed).
Sometimes we just have to make choices and then live with them. I think you'll eventually find that you can get your projects done well with Linux, maybe not with all the features you had access to in Windows, but you must decide what is more important to you. For me I wanted so bad to be free of Windows, I was so fed up with it. I did not wish to end up living my whole life tied to Windows.
Now I don't miss Windows at all.
I would like to male the change too. Can i ask you how you managed with the VSTs?
Never have I thought tiling window managers would be useful to anyone with a job.
I'm using StumpWM for over a year now. Its main feature is the static by default layout you drop your windows into. You can have more windows than tiles and move them between foreground and background.
It may be useful to you, if not too difficult. I needed a bit of time to get used to it.
I switched to linux when MS stopped supporting Win7. I have never looked back. The good thing is that you are able to learn everything about the OS since it is open source. And yes, you pay 0 $.
Hey! For more than 10 years, I only run linux or linux based OSes.
I felt a little misguided by your introduction. It's not a simple general "30 days on linux" challenge you did, it's a "perfectly mimic my 10y old Windows complex AV routine on Linux" test. I made the same mistake when I switched long ago. Windows gives the false impression that we can do everything anyway we want on a PC, while in fact, everyone bends to the Windows architecture legacy, at the cost of thinking that things can only be done the Windows way and that any PC on any OS shall be able to do everything. So, little by little, I detached some usages from the PC, like games and media consomption to other devices like a TV, a tablet and a console... that are usually Linux based.
Now, what do I use for graphic creation? If it is a complex work, that requires advanced tools and great details, I use GIMP. But for everyday small jobs, like banners, covers, web publishing, I use several online tools like Squoosh.
So it all depends on what you want to do with your computer. Some OSes can do everything poorly, others run perfectly outside of a few fields. And I think it's unfair to attack Linux on its weakness: complex AV and games, that are little fishes for the IT industry.
Anyways, the video is great, well written and presented. It's always good to get out of one's box.
Best regards!
It's funny how a lot pick on Linux, if you don't like linux don't use it. I used to use windows, but got tired of, "getting windows ready, don't turn off your computer" and updating virus checkers, malware checkers, updating programs, updating drivers for this and that, microsoft changing things in the background without your consent. Linux is like someone gives away free cars, with free servicing, free gas and tyres and people still have the nerve to complain, go figure.
To the people who asked why isn't Linux as popular as windows, you would have to be naive to not realize that microsoft spend huge sums on advertising, they buy up companies to make sure their programs only run on their systems, they do huge deals to make sure that a new PC or laptop comes preinstalled with Windows. When was the last time you went to a store and saw a PC or laptop that came preinstalled with Linux, or saw an ad on TV for Linux?
Like I said if you don't like Linux don't use it.
Again you're not getting the point. This isn't a political competition where we have to choose a side because the other side is evil. The point is, Linux needs more alternatives and its fanboys dismissing any criticism is part of the problem.
I successfully switched to Linux this year. All my machines run Arch Linux.
Problem when it comes to switching is the user mentality mainly. Regular users expect that everything will work as in Windows or Mac, and they get scared when they need to use commands to solve issues on Linux. It's lack of information before hand the main problem and how opened they are to learn a new OS.
Suggestion to those who rely on Windows or Mac only apps for work: if you have an extra machine that works well with those OS, keep using them and try Linux on a separate machine.
Sure there are some games and apps that I had to say good bye, but honestly, I don't miss them at all. If they won't support my system, I simply don't care about them.
If I can't have something running within 2 days, I use my backup and keep on with my life unless I really need to.
I love the command line and /etc/ config files. I get scared whenever I have to edit the registry to do something....
@@nathanbanks2354 That's what backups are for too.
I approach Linux with the mentality of "I need to re-learn coding". And then I can just recompile the kernel however I like, add features to apps and just generally contribute to making Linux better, rather than making excuses or complaining. It isn't like you can get pissed off at Linux like you can with Windows and if people don't like the fact GIMP isn't an exact replacement for Photoshop, they should do something about it or STFU.
Absolutely never install driver software from a website but always from the package manager if possible.
Krita is better then Gimp.