Safariland 6354 DO VS. 6390 RDS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2024
- Quick video on two Safariland holsters and why I prefer the DO over the RDS. Overall they are both really good options it comes down to what you need the holster to do. I prefer the DO but if you need a thumb guard and some of the other features the RDS has to offer it's still a great option. If you want to see more on the holsters or an in-depth video going over my belt let me know down below! Thanks for watching as always!
OP Tac 6354 DO:
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OP Tac 6390 RDS:
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Just a heads up for all the people in the comments this is strictly to the holster he has I have one in both models and so do two of my friends and after removing the optic hood and the thumb guard if you want they feel identical to the DO we all actually prefer the RDS because once the spring system is broken in it’s actually a smoother draw and you have the extra protection and you can get the holster $35 cheaper than the DO with the mid ride belt option from BDU. By the way we have Glock 19 with Holosun 507 and the compact model with olight pl-pro. I think you got a stiff one or maybe just out of spec a bit.
Awesome comment, and the RDS is popping up a little cheaper which is nice! I actually did some messing around with mine and got it “fixed” from the issues I was having I plan on making a video here soon discussing it! My spring was a little messed up from Safariland
I had no experience with safariland. I order rds for my g19. After I saw Your video. Fuck. I made a huge mistake. Especially that in my country it is veeeeery expensive. But when it come I found I have no any issue with it. Thumb guard I remove immediately. But the locking lever is for me perfect. Super natural to disengage. As a new to safariland I can say all this system works just perfect for me.
Yeah I think I just got a wack holster Im replacing it and seeing if I continue to have any issues!
Works perfect for me. Out of the box the RDS works absolutely w/o any flaws.
I bought a 3d printed barrel stop for my 6354DO, im using a glock 19 with a small carry comp on it and it works good. It helps keep the rigidity and structure of the holster together while allowing clearance for my comp. (its made by Hugo Industries)
I'll have to look into that, I actually plan on ordering some stuff for "modding" out the safari lands!
@@RedactedGear I think this will be likely putting a 5th gen 4-5 into a rig built for a gen 4 19. What is SL doing? They make these to order, why not design 5th gen holsters? All it would take is tweaking their molds. Do not get it.
(Lefty shooter here).., I took the plug out of the weaponlight side of the holster.., right after a spent cartridge got caught in it, and prevented re-holstering…
I too had both holsters and absolutely hated the 6390 so much so that I sold it (I feel bad for the guy in CA that bought it, but hey, he got it dirt cheap on eBay from me). I have a Glock 19 w/ a threaded barrel that is the exact same length as a g17 due to the threaded barrel. That being said, in the 6390 the gun would literally get stuck in the holster. I loosened the retention nut as loose as it would get and the gun would still jam and not release. So frustrating that Safariland changed the design of the 6354 DO’s! Great video!
Yeah man its still a super nice holster but I feel like they had something good with the DO and tried to over complicate it with the RDS. I will probably be selling mine here soon after some more testing.
I got a 6360 rds (level 3) with my first safariland holster being a 7 series holster.
I find the rds holsters perfectly fine.
I think it's mostly a training issue.
If you like the 6354, that's fine.
Though I would urge you to stress that it's a personal preference issue, not a holster issue.
There isn’t anything wrong with the 6390, I find it to be a good holster just not for me.. my personal gripe with the holster is that my personal holster experiences a lot of lock ups if any amount of upward pressure at all is applied to the holster, my 6354 will still let go of the gun with upward pressure applied before the initial button press. Thats my only issue with the 6390 thats an actual mechanical issue. I dont like the size of the 6390 but thats a personal thing
Ahhhhhhh, I see the problem. You’re wrong handed.
BRUH DONT EXPOSE ME LIKE THAT 😩😂
@@RedactedGear lol
Yeah I was just thinking TH-cam should have a “flip video” feature so viewers can flip the handedness. Just mirror it over to the other side we won’t even notice except for written words which like 90% of these reviews don’t have. Darn lefties making such unrelatable content
😂😂😂
The placement of the als on the 6390 rds holster is to aid in gaining a higher purchase of the grip upon draw . I have both & like both . It's a training , muscle memory issue . My department only allows level 3 holsters for uniformed duty carry & 99% of the time I'm in uniform (school protection) . I do like the look of the DO better & prefer the DO when I work off duty private overt gigs . It's just really about getting rep's on the 6390 rds
I have been using them both for a bit now, I have gotten used to the different placement of the ALS but the holster is still locking onto the gun even when depressed I believe my ALS system is out of spec. I am slowly warming up to the 6390 in terms of its size and differences but the lockup issue is the one thing keeping me from liking it more.
@@RedactedGear Yeah bro that's a pretty big issue . Safariland has a horrid website as far as the holster finder goes but they do have fantastic customer service . I was having a fitment issue when we were first issued our gen5 G17's 4 summer's ago with the torch fitment in the also new Safariland 7ts torch compatible holster . After I explained to Safariland's customer service that school was starting in a few days and I really needed that holster and I would do whatever they wanted me to do they said "No worries , a new one is on the way " . I received the new Safariland 7ts torch compatible holster dated 6/18 which is gen5 compatible (which was the issue my department wouldn't help me with) within 5 days at my front door . The Safariland rep was very helpful after I told her my issue & that I couldn't have the holster not work when I needed it she was all over it . 🤷🏻♂️ Couldn't hurt to give them a call
The 6390rds works great for me. The only issue I have with it is the hood flies off when i do any prone shooting and moving around.
Thats why I took mine off I kept catching my front sight/slide on it and kept launching it 😂
Why I want the hoodless variant. They need to dump that feature. Have yet to hear a positive thing about it.
Great rundown. Going with the DO to start. Thanks a bunch.
*cordera* covered. Fucking autocorrect!
I have the 6354do and it's a great holster, with one issue that I solved with a Dremmel. I have run any one of three pistols in it. G19 gen 3, Polymer 80, and a G19x. Putting the same gen 3 slide with a Vortex Venom on each one, the Venom bottomed out in the red dot hood before the pistol would lock in. I shaved it down as far as I could and it's good now. But for the money, I was pretty disappointed that I had to do that.
I have heard the hoods do need modifications to fit anything other than an rmr which kinda blows paying so much for a holster on top of having to buy so much stuff along with it to make it worth the investment
So the 63 54do will work with the P80? Gen3?
I'm used to the duty style ofthe RDS it's most applicable for law enforcement or security so I guess I can confidently say it's stiffer that for more secure retention. The triangle screw placement sits low, The RDO was okay I would say more of a militaristic style since its quicker and smoother of a draw and placement and angle.
I carry the rds because I go into the deep woods very often and am often in the sleet and rain/snow I need the goofy little hood to keep those tiny pieces of branches leaves and water drops off my rmr.
My thumb also lines up with the release tab right upon the crease of my thumb. The first day or two I had slight discomfort running dry fire drills but I just grew a callus and bam problem solved.
If you don’t run optics running a DO or RDS makes little sense given that the price is much higher for both the RDS and DO over the slick slide models. Tbh if you want the cordura wrap, go through RDR Gear and get a custom wrapped model for $180. I have the DO, RDS, and 7TS RDS holsters and the ALS system has only improved with age. The gen 1 DO I have has a super narrow ALS lever with I had to install an OTD Nub on to make usable. The new RDS and 7TS holsters made the lever width a priority. Height of the holster isn’t that different. The RDS actually fits far more sights and lights than the DO by design. Sorry you have had issues with your particular holster but in my experience the issue with new holster designs come down to training habits.
I hate that the new ones have the qls mounting screws halfway down the holster. There’s some RDS’s that have the three screw holes up higher where they used to be. With most of them with the qls way lower even if I’m using a low ride it ends up being a mid ride or higher.
Side note you can still attach the qls high on new RDS’s but it gives me massive ocd that you can only use 2 out of 3 screws to secure it.
Thanks for spending the 675.00 + so You could do this video for US !! : - )
I am here for the ppl 🫡
I recently purchased an rds for my 34 with tlr1. I have had many many safarilands and this one is by far the worst. For some reason it is almost impossible to reholster. Makes no sence. I even took out the als system and just left the als hood on thinking the gun was hanging on the als block but it still was horrible. Guess i will try to find a DO. Thanks for the vid. Very informative.
I think the RDS serves a purpose I just think Safariland took one step forward in some places and three steps back on other things with the 6390. I get a lot of flack for this video but honestly I'm just not a fan when the 6354 DO just works with no gimmicks.
@@RedactedGear Yea. I think that the flack that they took over the gap in the trigger guard with the light bearing holsters made them change design. Not a fan. The 7ts holsters are way better. Thats what I will stick too until yet another change. I think in this case they actually listened to reviews too much. They shouldve just stuck to what THEY do best….designing holsters that work.
Excellent comparison
Thanks man!!!!
@@RedactedGear just got my 6354DO in the mail today 🤙
Thank you so much for this video
The 6390RDS is a duty holster and designed for law enforcement and private armed security officers. I have used Safariland holsters for decades on patrol, SWAT, narcotics and now for armed body guard VIP assignments. If you are a police officer or deputy sheriff and have RDS plus light you will want the retention level plus the RDS hood for your optic on your duty weapon. Shit happens especially on patrol.
Thank you so much for this information!
Glad I could help!
I didn't like the threaded 3 hole placement for the male fork on the RDS. I did mount the male fork up on the two thumb guard holes Not sure how i feel about that yet, however, Its now in a similar position as my DO.
Great video and subscribed
Also I bought both through optactical, RDS was 185 in Feb '21, DO was 133 in August '19 both before shipping. RDS didn't come with the fork either. RDS was very tight at first but seems better now after use. I didn't adjust anything on either one because i never bothered looking into it. The DO seems very loose but it is a smoother draw for sure. It seems like the RDS internals are tight. They are my first Safariland holsters, so I don't have much to compare too other Safarilands but I can compare to a couple T-Rex Ragnaroks and they are great holsters too, but I seem to like the draw better on the Safariland DO. The only reason for getting the RDS is because Im going to try the Trijicon SRO over my RMR and the DO is too small, the RDS can be modified from what Ive seen here on YT. Sorry for the ramblings. I requested a follow on IG too. dune stock
Awesome man Im glad to hear that, and thanks so much for the support, I love making these videos to kind of show off this stuff before someone drops serious coin on something and hates it, I've just found with the RDS the thumb button placement is off just enough to lock me out from a draw sometimes and like I said I take that thumb guard off every time I use it because it seems to just block my hand or I hit the guard with my hand all together, I know that comes down to training at a certain point but the thumb button placement is just not as smooth and natural like the DO is for me!
What is the difference between the DO in the RDS? I called Safariland and they told me. It was where the Ironside sits in back of the optic is an RDS or if the Ironside sits in front of the optic on old or red dots it’s an DO. When people talk about it, no one never mentions that.
DO is older, RDS is newer, slight updates and what not but both are great. I have ran irons forward and rear with an optic in both and never had an issue
Very informative, thanks!
Found your video tonight looking for different options for my Glocks and MR920 - have many models and light configs - been using TREX ( good Holsters but all light specific) .. Had planned on purchasing the 6390RDS , see what you mean about the thumb placement...BUT the 6390RDS is only $120 and cant find the 6354 for under $170 , but did see the ALS nub mod and wasnt sure if that would remedy the problem ... good informative video and timely for me at least
Thanks man! Yeah when I bought mine they were all closer to $200 all said and done with some of the QLS fork attachments. It looks like a lot of places are running sales on the holsters so I would definitely hop on while the sales are going on. The RDS is a super solid option I have just found troubles with the slight raise on the thumb "switch" not allowing for as much of a comfortable draw compared to the DO. Both super solid options can't go wrong either way!
100percent get the nub mod. It’s worth it’s weight in gold if you ask me!
Can you fit a Glock 17 gen 5 with rmr type 2 and streamlight tlr1 comfortably in 6354 DO? I was going to get the 6390 RDS but thanks to your review I might get the DO instead. I also like the fact that the DO rides lower than RDS and is less bulky. Thanks for posting the video!
It should work as long as the gen5 glock 17’s have no real dimensional changes or size differences. I use the tlr1-hl in the DO holster and they work just fine, you may just need to tighten the screw at the bottom side of the holster to tighten the draw / kydex around the light
Old video but what about the newer 6354 RDs0?
Just got one for the staccato, once its done being wrapped and modded by ghostmen I will make a vid!
@RedactedGear awesome can't wait to see it. I'm not sure I like the als lever but I'm sure you'll go over it too
Thanks for the review man.
Good info. Consider lighting. Camera over your right shoulder, light should be too. You are casting shadows on your subject.
Constantly working on my setups, I have changed a few things since that video!
Any chance Safariland could combine the ALS and the GLS so the thumb guards and hood is not as important?
Similar to their old 070 holsters
To be honest, RDS is my favorite because the style of it and with out my RMR on my glock it works perfect
I want to like the RDS so bad, but I am having a lot of issues with mine, still experiencing lock ups which is my main issue with it (could just be my holster I have contacted safari land about it) Im also using a glock with no RMR and only a light. Hopefully safari land will take a look at it and see whats going on!
Oh ok, they have a store?
New versions of both are identical, except the added hood
U need to use grease on your hood latch oil won't work good I use a lithium grease on a q tip it will be smooth as silk
Will this fit polymer 80 with a surefirex400 ultra?
That I am unsure of, Im not sure if the slight differences in the P80 frame would hinder anything, I think it should work but with that light you mentioned possibly not
Does anyone know if the 17 fits into the 45-45 version of the DO?
There is a screw there on the back , next to the forks. What is its purpose ?
Three year old video, I know😂. May be a silly question but here it goes. If I purchased this holster, could I take off the light and optic and still use the holster?
Yes. without any issues.
It kinda works but I would not recommend doing that its finicky
Will the do fit a Glock 19 with the new inforce wild 2?
I think your problem is that your left handed. That usually makes everything suck 😂
Hey now!
So basically the things you don't like about this holster are the things that can be taken off. Strange. Since you don't have an optic, why do you feel the "need" to close the hood when you secure your gun in the holster. You said you remove the hood anyway, why not just leave it open? As for the thumb switch, you just need to grow longer thumbs. Not sure what you would expect when buying 2 different holsters. You're going to need to change the way you do things and train to do them for the platform differences.
No I understand that 100% I use that holster on and off, I am just experiencing an actual lock up and that is a problem for me. I do take the hood on and off, I just meant more so if I leave it on I leave the hood closed is what I meant to get across, Im personally not a fan of the new hood design I understand why they did it but Im just not a fan and that may be different for everyone. If I could grow longer thumbs I would man trust me 😂
I know where he’s coming from. I had an rds and loved everything about it…until it was time to reholster. Felt like a square peg going into a round hole. Crazy. It was sold next day. Gotta use what you are comfortable with. To each their own. And I think in this video he was just basically saying that.
Oh, that being said, I have probably 12 other Safarilands, from sls to als to sls/als and none of those are hard to reholster with red dot or not.
Looks like 6354do isn’t for gen 5 glocks, so what would u recommend for gen 5 glock
6390 RDS would be my next choice, but what makes you say the gen 5 wont work with the 6354? (I haven’t had a gen 5 to test in my holster) may be something I have to look into 🏴☠️
@@RedactedGear well it looks like on the website its not a choice for gen5. 4 and below. something about ambi slide release. But i saw they have a 6354RDS.. might get that
Even though on the website it says for optic mounted guns, will the 6354 work with either?
Will work with or without an optic! There is a version that doesn’t have a light though so be aware when ordering
it will fit for Glock 19x with Surefire x300ub ??
I can't find a 6354 do without the optics hood for my 2011. Are they discontinued?
I love my 6354DO. I want to get another one but I’m not sure if the aimpont acro will fit in it. With a Glock 45 Mos I don’t think it will. If I get it direct milled as far back on the slide as it allows then maybe it will fit. Any suggestions? Thanks, good video
I have seen 6354’s fit acros with very little modification, Id recommend trying it with heat and kind of reforming the hood, and if it needs more “frontal” clearance to take a cut off wheel to the front portion just in front of the hood on the actual holster (part that sits right above the ejection port) if that makes sense. Not sure how a P2 would change any of that as I know its sized a little different
@@RedactedGear thanks for the reply. I know which area of the holster u are referring to. I’ll have to mess around and see if it works. Thanks again
Will 6354 DO work with gen5 19 ?
Can a g19 with tlr1 509t fit in the 6390
To clarify… the middle one is the rds right? Was that in the cordura finish? Multi cam?
Can you use the holster without a light attached to it
Yes you can! Unfortunately it is a little awkward to re-holster without a light but it is useable without a light!
@@RedactedGear thanks for the reply appreciate it a lot
The trigger pulls to prove that it isn’t chambered kill me.
So i may need some assistance. I use a safariland 6354DO holster and a TLR1-HL on my glock 17. However when doing draws from holster the hand screw turn and gets loosened every draw. Anyone have any ideas on solutions
Locktite should solve the issue.
Yeah grab some blue locktite from Home Depot! You’d be surprised how many times its come in handy for that and other little things!
If I have a Glock 19x (no comp) with TLR1, will it fit in the Glock 17 6354 DO holster?
In theory it should, the length should be correct but I am not 100% certain, I will be able to test this for sure later this week when I get my hands on my buddy's 19X.
Absolutely will . I have a G45 with Holosun 509t direct milled with Streamlight tlr1hl and it fits my DO & 6390 rds which are both G17 compatible . I just always get the G17 compatible Safariland holsters as I switch between the holsters quite a bit working the day job or side gigs dictating kit .. thank God for QLS
Would a G19 with a x300 be able to work in the 17 holster, or would it fall in to deep to draw properly? Also as far as the stiffness of the new holster, used to run the SLS at work and whenever we’d get a new holster we’d sit there and work the bail back and forth for an hour or 2 to loosen it up. It might work for the ALS.
With a DO holster mine works just fine
Should work for you! I know my one buddy took his barrel plug out of the 17 6354Do and runs a 19 with a comp and minimal modification
@@RedactedGear awesome! Thanks
I’m looking at picking up the 6354 because I like the multi cam finish and safariland told me it’s only available on the optic models. I don’t run an rds on my Glock and I’m wondering if you have any issues holstering the gun? Does the muzzle ever get stuck on the optic cutout ?
One last question, is that an X300 or X300U?
Thanks.
Oh, great vid!
Thanks! For the optic part, no it does not get stuck, I have caught it on the 6390RDS a bunch but the 6354DO works just fine without an optic! Mine still doesn't have an optic on it and I haven't had that issue, once you get it and try it you'll be pretty good with it! Surefire X300U as well!
What magwell is that?
Slr rifle works
is that a glock 19 in a glock 17 holster i cant find the answer anywhere will a 19 fit in a glock 17 holster
Yes a 19 will fit in the safari lands I have but it will come up about a half inch short
Saving up for a Streamlight TLR1-HL, but currently carry a Glock 23. I have the Streamlight TLR3 which seems like it's the same size, just shorter. Do you think the 6354DO would fit my 23 with the TLR3?
I don’t believe it will fit in a DO, but then again I could be wrong I only have the tlr1 HL’s and x300’s so I cant confirm fitment, I haven’t even seen those tlr3’s in person 😂
@@RedactedGear well, now im more tempted to get the DO. If it fits cool, if not....even more reason to get the TLR1-HL 🤣 Thanks bud!
Can the 6354DO be used without a light or is the mounted light required for a proper fit?
You can use without a light, it just makes it somewhat awkward because of the empty space for the light!
@@RedactedGear so it does wobble around or is it just difficult to holster
It does wobble a little, but most just awkward to get reholstered without a light
My DO just arrived and it fits my Shadow mr920L perfectly without the light 0 wobble. Light arrives today. I ordered the Streamlight TLR7a fingers crossed
All my options they give me are the rds. Do they even make the DOs anymore?
Yeah I believe so, I always see them popping back in stock on sites like OP Tactical!
They have been discontinued by Safariland. New/old stock pops up from time to time. The 6-series and 7-series RDS options are the manufacturer replacement units. By the Nub-Mod for the newer RDS and call it a day.
It is still possible to find DO's with some searching. Of course they will always propose you the RDS. They need to sell what the have in stock. )))
@@BountyXP I agree. The nubmod is fantastic. Just got my 6360RDS and I put a nubmod on right away. Makes for quite an improvement.
would these work with a tlr 7 on a glock 19?
I don’t believe the TLR7 would work amazingly but it could possibly work depending on size compared to the TLR1 and TLR1 HL
Just tried this on my 6354do and didn't fit very well. It retains the pistol but it's really loose in there. Didn't try tightening the retention screw tho. Doing that would prob make it more manageable but still not super great.
Get the OT nub mod.
Just the video I was looking for I have Glock model 45 with a holosun 507 red dot and thanking about a T7 light . Would like to keep my red door protected wow a holster would you suggest
I'm sure you could get something from safariland and have it modified, I know a lot of guys will bevel out the 6354DO to clearance optics, unfortunately they only make holsters like this for surefire x300's and TLR-1's not the T7
@@RedactedGear Thanks for getting back to me I will look into it
I just ordered a 7390RDS for a G45 with RMR and TLR-7. I wish I knew if the Holosun 507 would fit or not.
According to Safariland website the 7360 RDS will work with the G19 Gen 5 with holosun 507 & TLR-7 but it’ll run you $170 with a cupon code and $230 out-right.
Are you wrong handed or is tha cam flipped?
Im wrong handed 😪
@@RedactedGear that's myst be hard to find used holsters
Why the hell would you use an optic holster with a gun without a rds? Backwardsass. ALS guard is to prevent a gun grab, hence level II. Not LE, take it off.
They make a holster like 6378 series that's more suited for you.
The glock does have a trijicon rmr, I was in the process of building a slide with a dot
Have you decided to sell it?? If so I’d like to buy it.
Its a left handed holster and I'm still debating on selling it
@@RedactedGear I’m left handed please keep me in the loop if you want to get rid of it.
Safariland customer service, are a bunch of scam artist. After purchasing one holster at a promo code price, they kept sending me holsters and charging my credit card. I then sent back the holster after paying for the shipping and handling myself. They then refunded me the promo code price, and charged me the full price. And would not refund me the difference. Buy a holster from someone else, anyone else.
I spent about 8 minutes watching to find out that the reason you don't like it is that they moved the release lever 3 mm lol come on man
It makes a difference when you actually use it and the added half inch of holster length and the fact it sits up higher, just not a fan personally
**talks about optic equipped holsters and why he doesn’t like it***
**** DOESNT USE AN OPTIC EQUIPPED HANDGUN*****
Fail.
Take the thumb guard off. Most people call it a fat guard.
I do run an optic, that was just my stock slide. I stand by the 6390 being boof. I put the nub mod on it and its a little better for me, it's just weird to me idk.
That's not why the Nub mod exists... both holsters use ALS. The optic cover pops off of the RDS. This guy isnt very educated on this topic lmao
My bad chief
Boi get your NRA-supporting, built like boneless chicken wing, boxcar headass outta here
You never were in the military were you or in Iraq… dirt gets everywhere.