Hey All! Now we've had the summer break where no-one cares about tyres, this is the start of silly season, there's lots of videos coming! 😁 Firstly, a bit of housekeeping! I've gotten really behind with comments (sorry) and I'll never catchup, so if there's something tyre released you've asked, and I've not answered, please post it in a new comment on this video (don't reply to this comment as it doesn't show in youtube admin area) and I'll be sure to reply. Secondly, this tyre will be in my all season test, which should be out in a week or two! Thirdly, we have our first winter tyre test, which should be out a few weeks after that. And lastly, please like and subscribe. TH-cams.
Awesome. Just in time for weather to start in my part of the world. I need to buy 3 sets of Winters this year. Did the Michelin X-Ice Snow make it into this round of testing?
First of all, let's take a moment to appreciate the huge outlay of time and effort that went into making this video. Amazing. Otherwise, I've had the CrossClimate2 on my Impreza for approximately 1.5yr, and they have been outstanding. I live in the Pacific Northwest and drive through lots of rain and sometimes heavy snow in the mountain passes, and I could not be happier. They are the best all-season tire I've ever owned and are holding up very well.
I bought this tire back in Feb 2021 here in the US. It was only available for purchase through Tire Rack and one other outlet for US markets. I specifically purchased the CrossClimate2 XL's for CUV's. Though I just missed the snow season here in the midwest by sheer fate, we've had plenty of very hot weather and lots of rain during the times when that happens here. I've been very happy with the tire on my 2015 Lincoln MKC 2.3L AWD. This is probably one of the best tires I've ever owned in terms of a tire labeled as a M+S with the 3 peak snowflake rating. Personally I've only got about 5k miles on the tires and yet to see how it'll behave in our snowy and icy climate here, but I'm excited to see what I am fairly certain will be the results. It's still taking me time to get used to the grip of this tire in all weather (minus the snow/ice) especially on the AWD platform which I'm only about 18 months into knowing response and handling. I love the tire and hope to see if it meets and/or exceeds its touted 60K mile rating.
We recently installed a set on our Mercedes c220 and just drove from the UK to Kosovo and back to rescue two dogs. Naturally going through mountainous countries like Montenegro in February we experienced a lot of snow crossing tight, steep, snow covered roads with hundreds of hairpins and deep snow sections. Not once did they falter, they performed as well as a winter tyre could be expected to and even on the tightest, steepest switchbacks they still delivered admirable drive. Honestly, I have no intention of running any other tyre for the foreseeable future as the crossclimate 2 is just so good.
On both our Outback and our Forester we have Cross Climate 2 tires. They’re great on all road conditions, including snow. We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter so tires that are excellent in the snow is needed. We will forever be driving on Cross Climate 2 here in Washington state USA.
I recently replaced my Goodyear eagle LS2 (original tires on my Subaru legacy AWD , worked well though not great in winter and 3 of them started cracking at 40000 miles) with the Michelin CC2. Absolutely thrilled with the performance and warranty of the tires (6 years treadlife and 3 years road issues (flat tire fix, towing) etc). I have 18" 95H tires. Very happy with them. Quiet, smooth and great traction. You get what you pay for. Absolutely worth the difference ($300 more than the eagle LS2 for a set of 4, no way will I get the LS2 again I'm lucky I didn't have a blowout). I have been reading a lot of reviews about reduced gas mileage in the US version but I have not noticed any on the highway so far (my average is still ~ 34-35 miles per gallon). My overall average seems to have reduced by 1 mpg ~ 31 mpg, but I can live with that. Safety first.
We have the Cross Climate 2 on both our Outback and Forester. We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter here in north central WA state up in the mountains. We LOVE the snow traction from the CC2. They’re great in the slushy spring as well as the heat of summer.
Great to eventually hear about slush performance, it's a crucial weather condition in our local winters, but it's always neglected in professional tests 👍🏻
I have these and have driven them in Indiana's summer. Rain and very warm weather. Wet performance is stellar and the grip in hot summer and bitter cold weather is astounding. I have not driven in snow yet but I imagine they'll be great. I'm at about 15k miles on them. I'll be getting more once these are fully worn down
Fantastic! You answered every question I had. I’m going to pick up a set of the CrossClimate2s within the next month or so. I live in Minnesota so they’ll see quite a bit of winter weather from December through April.
@Schmokboing it's perhaps not as big a delta as you imagine. These are premium winter tyres as reference being beaten by AS tyres. www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Sport-Auto-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm If you're american then you all these all season tyres, all weather tyres.
@Schmokboing The problem with winter tires is that their worse are dry and wet braking. I live in Utah where we get a lot of snow but still most of the time the roads are wet or dry, not ice or snow covered so I decided against dedicated snow tires.
Just got some Michelin CrossClimate 2 on m Scion TC about 5 weeks ago. So far very impressive. Gas mileage is better. Gas mileage is better than previous tires.
Installed 4 new CrossClimate 2's on my 2014 Toyota Venza in June. I am amazed at wet weather performance! Car doesn't pull when entering deeper road puddles and tracks absolutely straight. Noise is not an issue with theses tires. Can't wait to experience winter conditions with these Michelins. Canadian winter conditions can change on a dime around the Great Lakes. The prohibitive costs and inconvenience from changing summer to winter tires on 20 inch rims was the deciding factor in choosing these unique tires. So far I'm very impressed!
Thank you for this feedback on the MDX! I am getting ready to replace the OEM rubber on my 2017 MDX SH-AWD Advance, and I’m leaning towards a set of these.
The grooves in these tires collect a ton of small pebbles. I have the older designed ones. BUT I will say it didn't seem to effect the tire at all. In fact I would guess to say that snow performance might be improved with the pebbles in the tread acting as pseudo snow studs. But they are well performing tires. I have FWD and seemed to handle 1 foot of snow with little issue. One caveat is I would rotate them more often if you have FWD/RWD. My front ones are worn noticeably more than the rear set.
Been using a set of CC+ on my winter wheels for my Octavia VRs for a few years. In Scotland the weather is crap a lot of the year but often decent in summer so I run PS4' as they just feel nicer and more direct when the road conditions permit. But winters are never usually bad enough to justify full winter spec tyres so the CC+ seemed a good shout. Unbelievably good in the snow and ice. Had a commute home in the winter up a steep hill lined the whole way up with hopelessly wheelspinning 4x4s all on summer tyres and my 2wd Octy sailed up the road past them. Lot of folk have no clue how to drive in snow but still I'll put a lot of it down to how capable the tyres are. Totally confidence inspiring and haven't had me worried once. Looking forward to trying these when I've eventually worn them out. Good video! 👍
Excellent video, I've been watching this channel for years and I love the detail you go into, your website is an incredibly useful resource for finding tyres that I have used several times. I had a low speed accident driving in the snow several years ago, I slid into a kerb and smashed an alloy wheel that was expensive to replace. That wasn't a fun experience, so I switched to Winter tyres, and found a tyre fitter that would store and swap over my tyres every 6 months or so. When my summer tyres were ready for the bin, I used Winter tyres all year round because I was too skint to buy another set of summer tyres and keep swapping. Winter tyres weren't unusable in the summer, but not ideal. When they wore out I switched to the Continental All Season, they were good, but very much still a Winter focused tyre, then I got another car and bought the original Michelin CrossClimates, these were much better in the Summer, and excellent in the snow and ice. I'll be getting these new Michelin CrossClimates when mine need replacing, thanks again for your videos.
We put the Cross Climate 2 on my wife's 2016 Toyota Rav4 Limited FWD in June. They were much quieter than the Yokohama (OEM) tires, the braking improvement was astonishing, and in the rain amazing improvement. I'm sure they will be great in the snow, These were US spec Cross Climate 2s. They now have the size for my KIA Niro Touring and when I need to replace the MX4 Michelins those are going on.
Hello. That’s the suv I want to put these on exactly, I’m currently running Bridgestone and I have no complaints just a little loud. How are these working out for you?
@@thetechlibrarian They are the best tires I have ever bought. Low noise, great in rain, I am sure they will be great in snow. We will find out this weekend. 2 to 8 inches of snow predicted.
@@firstcitytraveler how did it fare in the snow? I bought a set of CC2s from Costco and should have them by the end of this week. I live in Seattle and we’re expecting snow soon.
Unfortunately we never had more than four or five inches of snow. They were excellent in that amount but the roads were plowed. She had no trouble going up the very steep hill and down hill to her work. Our gravel drive can't be plowed so it was about five inches and it didn't stop her.
I've been incredibly pleased with the CC+ as my summer tire here in Finland. While I have a set of x-ice north 4 tires for winter use, the CC+'s really help with the unpredictable weather conditions in late autumn / early winter and late winter / early spring. Possibly going to get some CC2's when it's time to replace the CC+'s. I will always *very* strongly prefer studded tires in icy conditions but in regions where such weather conditions are rather infrequent, the CC-line of tires is likely all you'd ever need.
I live in Iceland, and I'm doing the same. Have the X-Ice for winter and now I'm going to try the CC2 tyres. Weather in the spring and autumn is unpredictable and it can even snow in summer. We also have to allot of mountain roads.
Fitted 4 x cc2's to a RWD infiniti q70s. The handkung has been transformed during wet and slippy dtiving conditions which the outgoing summer tyres were not able to cope. Thankyou for your amazing tyre reviews as they are really helpful when choosing replacement tyres.❤
I used CrossClimate for four years and made almost 80K km. It’s a good tyre for wet, not bad for the snow but awful for the hot summer days. Almost no lateral grip at cornering when the tarmac is hot! Now I’m using winter and summer tyre and recommend you the same.
I've gone the same route, also put loads of miles on my cross climates, but the summer grip through bends and roundabouts is not the best. I now have PS4's and think im gonna try Blizzak LM005 for the winter, as im planning on going in to the welsh mountains and don't want any issues in snow and ice.
@PaylasiYorum I don't understand, you are the only one who is not happy with this tire... Such comments always put me away from the tire. Can you say more about it?
My experience: I'm still with Crossclimate+ , 62k km, 4,2mm remaining. I'll try to arrive at 1,6mm , that's the legal edge in Italy, if I still feel safe on wet. I haven't had problems with hot Italian Summers 38° and more (air, not asphalt, degrees) and in any sudden situation. But I have to say my car is only 85 hp not turbo engine... maybe with more sporty car it struggles more?
Use the crossclimate for winter tyres... nothing beats summer tyres during summer. If you have nearly no snow days, theres no need for real wintertyres. Winter tyres are bad in cold dry conditions.
These are FANTASTIC tires. When I purchased my 2021 Hyundai Palisade, I immediately replaced the stock Hankook tires with these. The change has been well worth it. The truck handles heavy rain without a problem. You’re firmly planted to the road and you get a comfortable ride.
I'd love to see you compare across categories: CrossClimate2 vs Pilot Sport AS4! With the CrossClimate2 punching above its weight, we might see some interesting overlaps!
This is exactly was I was hoping for! Your favorite all season *pilot sport as 4* vs the newest fan favorite all weather “cross climate 2”, Especially in snow
Running Cross Climate+ tires on my wife's Camry for the past three years. Love them! Great in every season! The only thing (and it's minor) is when turning at low speeds they are noisy as heck! Took a little getting used to, but that happened quickly. Wearing on the tires is as expected. Will be getting the CC2s when needed. Worth every penny!
I became a Michelin fan in the 70s, they lost my preference over the years. Now have the cross climate twos on a Acura TL and love that tire. I wish I still had my Toyota Celica Alltrac (moment of grieving) to give this tire a thorough test.
One other observation I’d like to make: Of the eighteen (18) tires classified as “performance all-season” by Consumer Reports, only one-the Uniroyal Tiger Paw Touring A/S-had worse rolling resistance ratings than the CrossClimate2. So while it appears that Michelin has certainly made some improvements over the CrossClimate+, if we can believe CR’s testing, the CrossClimate2 is still one of the most thirsty of the lot. It’s too bad, too, because rolling resistance is a metric that matters to me.
I put a set of Firestone Weathergrip on my 07' Mercury Grand Marquis 4.6L. From Boise, Idaho to Salt Lake City, Utah. Got 26 mpg. My Honda CRV and Ford Escape with all season tires gets 23 mpg. Both 4 cylinder. I have a set of studded snow tires for the Honda, which lowers the mpg to 17.
It is important to note that US+Canada CrossClimate2 model is different from the one sold in EU - significantly higher rolling resistance for the US-spec CrossClimate 2 - my Camry Hybrid LE shows -10% less mpg vs Firestone FT140. The cost of better grip is non-negligible.
I just put these tires on my wife's Golf and they feel so good in dry handling, I might actually replace the PS4s on my G70 with them! Really looking forward to pushing them in the winter.
I live in the Scottish Highlands (not far from Glenshee) and we used to see a lot of CC tyres, but the numbers have lowered and folk are back to using winter tyres in the winter. It’s not so much the snow, it’s the ice/frost. We regularly see -10, -15 is not unusual and last winter we got to -18.7 degrees centigrade. On very cold roads, frosty rods and ice, the CC is not great.
Hi Jonathan , 240 mile journey over two days in Scotland torrential rain on day 1. Fair weather on day 2. Tesla Model 3 Performance on 18” aftermarket alloys and CC2, cold tyre pressure 3.0bar. Car achieved 4.21 miles per KWh which is outstanding for time of year on a pre heat pump Tesla. Goes to show the quality of this tyre, looking forward to snow to see how performs.
Have had these on my wife's 2017 Pacifica for a couple months and am very happy with them over the OE tire. Not sure if they will see snow this year in the Mid-Atlantic US, but I am relieved to hear such a great review on them. Thanks!
The tread doesn't run out on these tyres, no matter how hard you drive and how crappy the roads are, hot damn. They have lasted me for 12000 miles and are still above 3mm and evenly worn
I bought a set of CC + in 2017 when they first came out. This is my 5th winter on the same set of tyres. I use them Nov to April in central european mountains where we have lots of snow. They are good enough to take me sking. We ski around 1600 to 2500 meters in temps -3 to -12c. In winter on a cold but dry day, they feel very good. Not far off a summer tyre in warm conditions and much better than summer tyres on cold dry or wet weather. I live at 800 metres above sea level. After over 30,000 winter only km the cc+ still have 4.5 mm left rear and 5 mm on front. Fuel consumption is very impressive. For comparison I use an old set energy saver plus tyres in summer ( from 2015, 85k and 3.5mm left), if you take out wet days (extra drag) these CC+ are within 2 mpg of my energy saver +. Thats amazing mpg for a tyre with reasonable snow performance. Also note in cold wet November conditions on energy summer tyres i get wheel spin off the front even with 4wd. But with CC+ no wheel spin, it just launches faster so wet grip in cold temps is way more than a summer tyre. My car is E91 320d xdrive tunned to 230hp and 340lbs. 205 55 16s V 91 size. Plenty of power to kick the tail out. Im very tempted to try this CC2 next season. Compared with CC+ if the CC2 has a bit more snow performance that would be very helpful. On dry days
Great review, I’m currently trying to decide between between the 205,50,16 and the 225,50,16. I’ve had the continental all seasons for the last two years (thanks to you) in 215,45,16 and they were really good apart from aqua planing where they were really poor. They make British winters a lot safer.
Great video! And fantastic tyres, I have used cross climate tyres on all my cars. In my experience, Four wheel drive on summer tyres is useless on the snow, and even dangerous. Save yourself some money get a front wheel drive car with Michelin Cross climate tyres and you will not regret it.
In 2016 or 17 i bought Michelin cross climate for my renault laguna III. This year , after emerygency breaking i'm 100% sure i will buy cross climate 2
The cross-climate 2 is overall the best tire in Seattle, USA because we get all seasoned weather. An they work really good in the snow and slush backroads.
Just changed my original fitted Dunlop’s for Cross Climate 2’s on my Camry Excel. Only done approximately 50 miles but noticeable how smooth the ride is now. Grip in damp conditions was good and predictable slides (under steer) which gave me confidence at the limit. So far so good!
Been looking forward to an update and a proper test on these tyres. I recently got 4 CC+ fitted and got a really good deal on them to the point that even with the fuel saving on CC2, the CC+ deal I got was well worth it. Also, I couldn't find any CC2 at the time at sensible prices, don't know if that has changed yet. Good to hear the snow performance has improved but a bit disappointed on the curved aqua planning results as that was always a major weakness IIRC.
I have a 2021 Ford Escape Titanium Hybrid and during the 4 months between ordering it and delivery I found out what tires would be on it. The OEM tire was the Bridgestone Ecopia which I researched and found the ratings to be in the sewer. Before I even had the vehicle I started looking at other tires for it and found the Michelin CrossClimate 2. I gave the OEM tires a year and 8200 miles a chance to prove themselves but it wasn't happening. I now have a set of 225/55/19 CrossClimate 2's installed, and while I don't really have the miles on them to make a full assessment, they are looking like the real deal. I may have lost a little fuel mileage with them, but The ride and noise improvement offsets that. Expensive but impressive.
I was happy with the CC+ on my Giulietta before I sold this car 2 years ago. The CC2 was announced for the european market more than one year ago. I was waiting for it as I am not happy with the tyres delivered by Suzuki and now the CC2 seems to be available more and more. I am looking forward to put this tyre on my '19 Swift Sport (215/40 17). The CC+ is not offered in dimensions I can use for this car.
Thanks for the great reviews and followup's to all the posts. I damaged one of my OEM tires and had to purchase new tires ASAP. I decided to try Michelin CrossClimate 2 tires manufactured for the North American market(USA). The CrossClimate 2's do handle better than the OEM's and are much more surefooted on mountain roads. I read other CrossClimate 2 hybrid owners reviews. They were getting lower mpg on the CC2. With my OEM tires I was averaging 40 to 41 miles per gallon in my RAV4 hybrid Limited. Now, I consistently average 34.5 MPG. 15% lower. I even raised the inflation 4 psi over the recommended pressure to see if that would help. EV’s and hybrid’s get a triple hit from higher rolling resistance tires. First when running on gas only, Second from faster battery drain while using battery power only and a third from a loss in regenerative battery charging when coasting or braking. Is there a way to get the Euro spec'd CrossClimate 2 here in North America? As reviewed here, with their lower rolling resistance, they would be perfect for Hybrid and EV owners.
How does that Lap time line up with something like a primacy? Have the primacy as a OEM tyre fitment on both my cars and was wondering if it's worth the swap. Id like to maintain an ability for some spirited summer drives in the short UK summer months
I've a summer tyre in the all season test and at 4c the CC2 was 1.1 seconds behind (44.7 second lap) and 0.6 behind in the wet. That said, these were perfectly fine for hooning around Scotland
My Hero! I have the + on my VW UP! and iam very happy with them. I will put the crossclimate 2 on my 5008 once the summer tires are done. Cant wait to test them in some snow.
Couldn't wait for this video and next all season announced comparison! Meanwhile I'll continue to "preach your word" in order to make roads more safe choosing the right tyre for every particular local situation and convert my friends to all season tyres😂😂😂 Thanks and a big hug from Tuscany 🇮🇹
I put a set of the CrossClimate2's on my wife's 2019 Chrysler Pacifica (245/50R20) last November and they are fantastic. We live in Northern Illinois and these tires are great in the snow, almost as good as a dedicated snow tire. Also fantastic in the rain and of course dry. If I have any negative, I do find them a bit nosier than the Falken OEM tires that the Michelins replaced.
Thank you for the video, Jonathan. It's really great to see you back on the testing track. 😃 The CC2's seem to be a worthy upgrade over the CC+'s. But, for what it seems, the design is not that much different and I expect to see almost the same behaviour on the road, especially on dry and wet roads. The problems I had with the original CC's were not on snowy roads, although that was their Achilles heel, because I am a self conscious driver and on the precautionary side. They tend to be very stiff and noisy on a not so perfect tarmac and they easily transmit these vibrations and noises in the cabin. Also, their lateral grip especially on wet roads feels pretty unsafe. And, lastly, they don't like hot weather. I live on the black sea coast in Romania, and here we have very hot and long summers which puts their toll on the life of these tyres. Not necessarily on wear, but with regards to their performance. I am eagerly waiting for your all season tyres test to see these against Vredestein Quatrac and Pirelli SF2.
The CC2 is improved. I'm surprised you say the CC was stiff and noisy as it wasn't outragious whenever I tested it. Perhaps a quirk of your size / vehicle
@@tyrereviewsI've done 35k miles on 215/50/R17 95W XL Crossclimate+ on a Nissan Leaf and I have to agree with @georgerobert2917 that they are stiff and noisy, in fact I would have to say they have a very harsh uncomfortable ride compared to the original Summer tyres to the point I regretted buying them. The car was originally speced for 91 load rated tyres so I suspect 95 XL is the problem, but the CC+ was not available in this size in a standard 91 load rating. However I've noticed the CC2 is available in 91 non-XL load rating so I am tempted as I liked the other aspects of the tyre other than the harsh ride and that they were a bit noisy. But I'm wary of ending up with another harsh riding tyre... :(
Good to see another video my man! Please whenever you can - compare a cheap summer and cheap winter vs a premium all season tire. It’s a dilemma for many - should I buy 2 cheap sets or one all season good one?
@@zbyszanna Few weeks from now, but there's already some 2021 all season tests on www.tyrereviews.com, and one with the CC2 :) www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Auto-Bild-SUV-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
@@tyrereviews Unfortunately I didn't have time to wait for the full review, so I went ahead and bought the CC2. If anything's wrong with them, I will blame you and write nasty comments under the video ;) Just joking of course. Looking forward to my new tires. Cheers.
Just put a set on a 2011 Nissan Juke FWD, replacing a set of Michelin Premier A/S, and I am definitely impressed so far in all aspects (haven't seen snow yet). Much quieter (as well as lower road noise resonance as you mentioned), vastly more comfortable while feeling much more confident, excellent dry drip as well as amazing wet performance. I can't wait to test them in the snow in the next few months
Veoma sam zadovoljan sa ovim vašim videom jer ja sam na svoj MERCEDES E klase ugradio Cross Climate 2015god i prešao sam za 8 god 200000 km a sada sam ponovo kupio i ugradio Cross Climate2 i biti ču siguran u prometu narednih 8 godinapozdrav iz HRVATSKE✌
Summer biased?? These are sold in Canada as Winter biased. The first of a wave of "All Weather" tires that have more Winter capability than "All Season" tires, and that get the "Mountain Snowflake" rating. This is allows them to be used as winter tires is places that required dedicated winter tires in the past.
@@tyrereviews the All Weather tire segment is really taking off in North America as a real alternative to all seasons. CrossClimate 2 vs Vredestein Quatrac Pro, etc. Interesting to hear the regional market differences.
Any chance Michelin will release something along these lines in truck/SUV sizes? Say 265/65-17 or roundabouts that? It feels like it would be the perfect tire for how many people in the US their trucks.
Great review. I've had cross climates for years and recommended them to everyone. In the bad snow years ago they got me to work when many people couldn't. Great tyres and I'll upgrade, but they last me an easy 50k miles and I don't baby them, so it'll be awhile.
I bought kleber quadraxer 3 and hope to survive during winter time in Poland. Snow is a rare fenomenum nowadays hence my brave decision about buying quadraxer 3.
@@tyrereviews I did! I bought Crossclimates for my Ioniq after watching one of your reviews about 2 years ago. absolute night and day difference in the winter compared with the OE Energy Savers but what surprised me is they were better in the summer too, quieter and as efficient the only thing I won’t know is the life as I swapped at 27k and I’ve done 20k since but my cars going back in November. Looking for a all season for my ID3 - I think I’ve found it! - Edit - They don’t do a size for the ID3 😭
I had CrossClimate + (205/60-16) on our Citroën C4 Picasso II and was very satisfied. We live in Denmark where the weather conditions are very reminiscent of the north of England and the coastal areas of Scotland. However, we also drive in the inner parts of Norway where there are proper winter conditions and the tires impressed there as well. The only thing I found negative about the tires was that the noise level increased relatively much as the tires were worn (at least on our car). Our next tires were Nokian Weatherproof and overall I am a little more satisfied with these tires compared to the CrossClimate +. Weatherproof is in my opinion a little more comfortable and a little more precise in the steering - otherwise about the same as CrossClimate +. I look forward to trying CrossClimate 2 when it becomes relevant. Thanks for informative videos and keep up the good work :)
That is to be sayed the main disadvantage with directional tyres in combination with fron wheel drive in general. If you care about that, tyres like the Pirelli or Vredestein with asymetric thread pattern should perform better as you can switch them across the sides. But they do generally not perform as well as asymetric ones. Must say that I was lucky with my A4 B9 in combination with the Conti TS860 as they remained quiet thru theis lifetime. Nevertheless, I'm a string advocate regarding cross-swithing of tyres on a front-wheel car. Maybe this leads to earlier weary-out of tyres (say 5000km), but this method makes them wear-out more equally resulting in less noise.
@@markusweissenbock6337 Thank you for the answer. I was not aware that the reason for the increased noise from the tires over time is that the tires are directional. This makes absolute sense as the Weatherproof tires are now also starting to make more noise than when they were new (they have now driven approx. 15000 Km). However, they make significantly less noise than the CrossClimate + tires when they were similarly worn. The rear tires are much less worn than the front tires and I consider buying two new Weatherproof tires and fitting these to the back of the car (and of course moving the previous rear tires to the front of the car).
Still happy with my cc+ so far, and I guess I real life differences in performance would be almost imperceptible at all. But that having on mind u will go for cc2 in few years:). Thanks for your work, keep it objective and impartial. Take care.
I just purchased a set of these at Costco for 800 bucks, I have no doubt that these will be great handling I'm just hoping that the road noise is equally as great.
@@tyrereviews Nice! Thank you. I am planning on buying an Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1.4 Multiair 170hp next year, and I want to get all season tyres for it as well. Hope they are good enough for sporty driving, mainly on the dry.
THANK YOU for this detailed comparo. I live in Nevada, USA and go from desert to snowy mountains and need a "snow capable" All Season tire. For my 2019 MAZDA X-5 GT Reserve 2.5 turbo SUV I'll be upgrading the width in my tires from 225 to 245 and this Cross Climate 2 is perfect for this vehicle and my intended uses.
Purchased the CrossClimate2 tyres here in Florida for my 2015 Honda Accord EXL V6. Have experienced some "wandering " at 60 mph. The vehicle has had a 4 wheel alignment when the tyres were fitted. Will raise the tyre pressure to 35 psi all around, then check again at 60 & 90 mph on the Interstate. At the lower speeds the vehicle feels "glued " to the road, not in a negative way. Other than this l am satisfied with my purchase.
Very good tire. As i saw in the tests, its a little bit better then one of my all season tire's, which is GoodYear Vector Gen-3. I have Michelin Crossclimate+ too, im very satisfied with it. It done almost 30.000km, and it has 6mm tread depth (the original is 7 mm). Driving is average, sometimes normal, sometimes spirited.
My MK 7.5 Golf R is trying it’s hardest to ware out my set of CrossClimates + I fitted in November 2019. Excellent tyre so the new & improves CC2 must be amazing. Thanks for a great video, on point info and awesome drone shots from the Scottish Highlands 👌🏼😎👍🏼
Hey Jonathan I’m one of your biggest fans and have been waiting a year for this one My only gripe ….. how can a 3 day, 15hr, 1000 mile trip only result in a 9 min video 😩 C’mon dude this should have been 3hrs long at least 😂😂 I mean, next time at least talk a bit slower 🤣👍🏼 Seriously though, awesome work mate and thanks for doing this 👍🏼
Ok, fitted. After 1000miles in the south west of the uk...if you like sporty driving or throw the car around the corners this is not your tyre. The turning as you drive in a sporty manner is poor and so is the feedback from the stearing, you have to fight a bit to get the car around the bend. The grip is decent. In the wet is quite good. See how much does it improve as the weather gets colder or if we see any snow...
Waiting for this one, thanks for the great review. Definitely going to move from my full on winters to these for UK winter usage, seems like the perfect UK winter tyre
Just purchased a 2021 Subaru Outback that will be due for tires in the winter. Wet with black ice on mountain passes in Pacific Northwest driving. Just retired people - speed limit driving, but the Michelins are promising!
Just tested the cross climate 2s on a very snowy street and I have to say these tyres are exceptional. Have used normal tyres on snowy streets before and you feel like you could lose grip easily but these new ones where like a hot knife through butter, felt so safe and secure. They also work well in heavy rain and on muddy roads up north of Scotland 👌.
Love these tires. Great in all weather, though only had limited snow experience. In wet weather it was a tank. So confidence inspiring. Will be adding to my new suv.
Which should I get? Subaru Impreza wagon WRX limited. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 or CrossClimate 2? mostly commuting and rain (Hawaii weather) no snow. Want the edge of better handling in we and dry. Mahalos in advance! Love your reviews!
I switched to CC2s about three months ago and have put several thousand miles on them, in most of what the UK climate can offer, including two trips to Scotland which had plenty of rain and snow. They feel the same as the set of CC+ I had priory to switching. However, the fuel economy is utterly abysmal in comparison. I'm seeing around a 15% drop in range over a full tank of fuel when using it normally/ commuting etc, and around a 10% drop on what I'd normally see on a long run of say 300 - 500 miles for example. I was not relying on trip computers or anything like that - I noticed I ran low much earlier than normal so I brimmed the tank , ran it low again and filled up again a few times. Given the claims about improved rolling resistance and economy, versus their previous tyres, you can imagine my surprise.
Thanks so much for the CrossClimate 2 demonstartion. I plan on putting them on my Buick Encore 215/55/18, as well as my Dodge Challenger 235/55/18. However, the Challengre will only have them on for the winter. Dave
Hey All! Now we've had the summer break where no-one cares about tyres, this is the start of silly season, there's lots of videos coming! 😁
Firstly, a bit of housekeeping! I've gotten really behind with comments (sorry) and I'll never catchup, so if there's something tyre released you've asked, and I've not answered, please post it in a new comment on this video (don't reply to this comment as it doesn't show in youtube admin area) and I'll be sure to reply.
Secondly, this tyre will be in my all season test, which should be out in a week or two!
Thirdly, we have our first winter tyre test, which should be out a few weeks after that.
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Awesome. Just in time for weather to start in my part of the world. I need to buy 3 sets of Winters this year. Did the Michelin X-Ice Snow make it into this round of testing?
Looking forward to the all season test! :)
Hey can you do a video on best tires to drift in? In terms of budget, performance, longest lasting, and value
They sound great. So how dire must the weather be to switch from the CrossClimates to a dedicated nordic tires--oops tyres?
I just ordered a set of PIRELLI CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS II XL these are comparable to these michelins can you compare these in your lineup?
I have the Crossclimate + on my Volvo and have been extremely impressed! I'll definitely go for the 2 when they are worn out!
First of all, let's take a moment to appreciate the huge outlay of time and effort that went into making this video. Amazing. Otherwise, I've had the CrossClimate2 on my Impreza for approximately 1.5yr, and they have been outstanding. I live in the Pacific Northwest and drive through lots of rain and sometimes heavy snow in the mountain passes, and I could not be happier. They are the best all-season tire I've ever owned and are holding up very well.
I bought this tire back in Feb 2021 here in the US. It was only available for purchase through Tire Rack and one other outlet for US markets. I specifically purchased the CrossClimate2 XL's for CUV's. Though I just missed the snow season here in the midwest by sheer fate, we've had plenty of very hot weather and lots of rain during the times when that happens here. I've been very happy with the tire on my 2015 Lincoln MKC 2.3L AWD. This is probably one of the best tires I've ever owned in terms of a tire labeled as a M+S with the 3 peak snowflake rating. Personally I've only got about 5k miles on the tires and yet to see how it'll behave in our snowy and icy climate here, but I'm excited to see what I am fairly certain will be the results. It's still taking me time to get used to the grip of this tire in all weather (minus the snow/ice) especially on the AWD platform which I'm only about 18 months into knowing response and handling. I love the tire and hope to see if it meets and/or exceeds its touted 60K mile rating.
I'm running them in Utah winters too, they're great :)
@@tyrereviews where in Utah? I’m at 7600 feet in Park City.
how are your cross climates holding up?
We recently installed a set on our Mercedes c220 and just drove from the UK to Kosovo and back to rescue two dogs. Naturally going through mountainous countries like Montenegro in February we experienced a lot of snow crossing tight, steep, snow covered roads with hundreds of hairpins and deep snow sections. Not once did they falter, they performed as well as a winter tyre could be expected to and even on the tightest, steepest switchbacks they still delivered admirable drive. Honestly, I have no intention of running any other tyre for the foreseeable future as the crossclimate 2 is just so good.
Hi,
Just wondering what kind of dogs did you get from Kosova?
Flex much?
On both our Outback and our Forester we have Cross Climate 2 tires.
They’re great on all road conditions, including snow.
We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter so tires that are excellent in the snow is needed.
We will forever be driving on Cross Climate 2 here in Washington state USA.
I recently replaced my Goodyear eagle LS2 (original tires on my Subaru legacy AWD , worked well though not great in winter and 3 of them started cracking at 40000 miles) with the Michelin CC2. Absolutely thrilled with the performance and warranty of the tires (6 years treadlife and 3 years road issues (flat tire fix, towing) etc).
I have 18" 95H tires. Very happy with them. Quiet, smooth and great traction. You get what you pay for. Absolutely worth the difference ($300 more than the eagle LS2 for a set of 4, no way will I get the LS2 again I'm lucky I didn't have a blowout). I have been reading a lot of reviews about reduced gas mileage in the US version but I have not noticed any on the highway so far (my average is still ~ 34-35 miles per gallon). My overall average seems to have reduced by 1 mpg ~ 31 mpg, but I can live with that. Safety first.
We have the Cross Climate 2 on both our Outback and Forester.
We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter here in north central WA state up in the mountains.
We LOVE the snow traction from the CC2. They’re great in the slushy spring as well as the heat of summer.
Great to eventually hear about slush performance, it's a crucial weather condition in our local winters, but it's always neglected in professional tests 👍🏻
The issue with slush is that it's impossible to do consistently and fairly 100 times in a day. If you can work out how, I can make you very rich lol
I wonder if a lot of industrial ice machines, a roller to crush it and some sprinklers could do the job
@@ignasanchezl a gigantic slushy machine, if you will.
I have these and have driven them in Indiana's summer. Rain and very warm weather. Wet performance is stellar and the grip in hot summer and bitter cold weather is astounding. I have not driven in snow yet but I imagine they'll be great. I'm at about 15k miles on them. I'll be getting more once these are fully worn down
Sounds like a wonder tire. How's tire noise? Thx
Pleased to see these FINALLY offered in the UK market!
Will be replacing our CC1s with CC2 eventually. Thanks for the great vid!
Fantastic! You answered every question I had. I’m going to pick up a set of the CrossClimate2s within the next month or so. I live in Minnesota so they’ll see quite a bit of winter weather from December through April.
I run them in the winter in Salt Lake :)
@Schmokboing it's perhaps not as big a delta as you imagine. These are premium winter tyres as reference being beaten by AS tyres.
www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Sport-Auto-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
If you're american then you all these all season tyres, all weather tyres.
I also live in Minnesota. Got my crossclimate2s last winter and they are great! I push them hard in corners in the dry and they grip nicely too.
@Schmokboing The problem with winter tires is that their worse are dry and wet braking.
I live in Utah where we get a lot of snow but still most of the time the roads are wet or dry, not ice or snow covered so I decided against dedicated snow tires.
Milwaukee for me.
Just got some Michelin CrossClimate 2 on m Scion TC about 5 weeks ago. So far very impressive. Gas mileage is better. Gas mileage is better than previous tires.
Thanks for sharing, glad you're enjoying them. If you get the time feel free to leave a review at www.tyrereviews.com :)
What were your previous tires?
@@paralelmind Toyo, I can't remember the series (model)
Installed 4 new CrossClimate 2's on my 2014 Toyota Venza in June. I am amazed at wet weather performance! Car doesn't pull when entering deeper road puddles and tracks absolutely straight. Noise is not an issue with theses tires. Can't wait to experience winter conditions with these Michelins. Canadian winter conditions can change on a dime around the Great Lakes. The prohibitive costs and inconvenience from changing summer to winter tires on 20 inch rims was the deciding factor in choosing these unique tires. So far I'm very impressed!
Glad you like them! Stick a review on www.tyrereviews.com :)
Can you tell any difference in fuel economy between the CC2 and the tires you had on previously?
How are the CrossClimate 2 tyres during summer with hot temperatures - 30-40 degrees Celsius for 2 months/year? Are they recommended?
Last December, I installed CrossClimate2 on our 2017 Acura MDX in 245/50R20 size, and they've been phenomenal. Much better than the OEM Premier LTX.
Thank you for this feedback on the MDX! I am getting ready to replace the OEM rubber on my 2017 MDX SH-AWD Advance, and I’m leaning towards a set of these.
The grooves in these tires collect a ton of small pebbles. I have the older designed ones. BUT I will say it didn't seem to effect the tire at all. In fact I would guess to say that snow performance might be improved with the pebbles in the tread acting as pseudo snow studs. But they are well performing tires. I have FWD and seemed to handle 1 foot of snow with little issue.
One caveat is I would rotate them more often if you have FWD/RWD. My front ones are worn noticeably more than the rear set.
How often would you suggest if normal rotation is every 5,000 miles?
Been using a set of CC+ on my winter wheels for my Octavia VRs for a few years. In Scotland the weather is crap a lot of the year but often decent in summer so I run PS4' as they just feel nicer and more direct when the road conditions permit. But winters are never usually bad enough to justify full winter spec tyres so the CC+ seemed a good shout. Unbelievably good in the snow and ice. Had a commute home in the winter up a steep hill lined the whole way up with hopelessly wheelspinning 4x4s all on summer tyres and my 2wd Octy sailed up the road past them. Lot of folk have no clue how to drive in snow but still I'll put a lot of it down to how capable the tyres are. Totally confidence inspiring and haven't had me worried once. Looking forward to trying these when I've eventually worn them out. Good video! 👍
It's always satisfying passing stuck 4x4s :)
Excellent video, I've been watching this channel for years and I love the detail you go into, your website is an incredibly useful resource for finding tyres that I have used several times.
I had a low speed accident driving in the snow several years ago, I slid into a kerb and smashed an alloy wheel that was expensive to replace. That wasn't a fun experience, so I switched to Winter tyres, and found a tyre fitter that would store and swap over my tyres every 6 months or so.
When my summer tyres were ready for the bin, I used Winter tyres all year round because I was too skint to buy another set of summer tyres and keep swapping. Winter tyres weren't unusable in the summer, but not ideal.
When they wore out I switched to the Continental All Season, they were good, but very much still a Winter focused tyre, then I got another car and bought the original Michelin CrossClimates, these were much better in the Summer, and excellent in the snow and ice.
I'll be getting these new Michelin CrossClimates when mine need replacing, thanks again for your videos.
Glad you found your tyre :)
We put the Cross Climate 2 on my wife's 2016 Toyota Rav4 Limited FWD in June. They were much quieter than the Yokohama (OEM) tires, the braking improvement was astonishing, and in the rain amazing improvement. I'm sure they will be great in the snow, These were US spec Cross Climate 2s. They now have the size for my KIA Niro Touring and when I need to replace the MX4 Michelins those are going on.
Hello. That’s the suv I want to put these on exactly, I’m currently running Bridgestone and I have no complaints just a little loud. How are these working out for you?
@@thetechlibrarian They are the best tires I have ever bought. Low noise, great in rain, I am sure they will be great in snow. We will find out this weekend. 2 to 8 inches of snow predicted.
@@firstcitytraveler how did it fare in the snow? I bought a set of CC2s from Costco and should have them by the end of this week. I live in Seattle and we’re expecting snow soon.
Unfortunately we never had more than four or five inches of snow. They were excellent in that amount but the roads were plowed. She had no trouble going up the very steep hill and down hill to her work. Our gravel drive can't be plowed so it was about five inches and it didn't stop her.
I've been incredibly pleased with the CC+ as my summer tire here in Finland. While I have a set of x-ice north 4 tires for winter use, the CC+'s really help with the unpredictable weather conditions in late autumn / early winter and late winter / early spring. Possibly going to get some CC2's when it's time to replace the CC+'s.
I will always *very* strongly prefer studded tires in icy conditions but in regions where such weather conditions are rather infrequent, the CC-line of tires is likely all you'd ever need.
I live in Iceland, and I'm doing the same. Have the X-Ice for winter and now I'm going to try the CC2 tyres. Weather in the spring and autumn is unpredictable and it can even snow in summer. We also have to allot of mountain roads.
make sure the new CC2 have the size of your tire, the new CC2 do not have my size tire to replace my old CC
Fitted 4 x cc2's to a RWD infiniti q70s. The handkung has been transformed during wet and slippy dtiving conditions which the outgoing summer tyres were not able to cope. Thankyou for your amazing tyre reviews as they are really helpful when choosing replacement tyres.❤
I used CrossClimate for four years and made almost 80K km. It’s a good tyre for wet, not bad for the snow but awful for the hot summer days. Almost no lateral grip at cornering when the tarmac is hot! Now I’m using winter and summer tyre and recommend you the same.
@@DoruApostolescu I love Continental tires. Sure better than Michelin CC
I've gone the same route, also put loads of miles on my cross climates, but the summer grip through bends and roundabouts is not the best. I now have PS4's and think im gonna try Blizzak LM005 for the winter, as im planning on going in to the welsh mountains and don't want any issues in snow and ice.
@PaylasiYorum
I don't understand, you are the only one who is not happy with this tire...
Such comments always put me away from the tire.
Can you say more about it?
My experience: I'm still with Crossclimate+ , 62k km, 4,2mm remaining. I'll try to arrive at 1,6mm , that's the legal edge in Italy, if I still feel safe on wet. I haven't had problems with hot Italian Summers 38° and more (air, not asphalt, degrees) and in any sudden situation. But I have to say my car is only 85 hp not turbo engine... maybe with more sporty car it struggles more?
Use the crossclimate for winter tyres... nothing beats summer tyres during summer. If you have nearly no snow days, theres no need for real wintertyres. Winter tyres are bad in cold dry conditions.
These are FANTASTIC tires. When I purchased my 2021 Hyundai Palisade, I immediately replaced the stock Hankook tires with these. The change has been well worth it. The truck handles heavy rain without a problem. You’re firmly planted to the road and you get a comfortable ride.
Glad you like them!
I'd love to see you compare across categories: CrossClimate2 vs Pilot Sport AS4! With the CrossClimate2 punching above its weight, we might see some interesting overlaps!
A direct summer comparison would be good.
This is exactly was I was hoping for! Your favorite all season *pilot sport as 4* vs the newest fan favorite all weather “cross climate 2”,
Especially in snow
Running Cross Climate+ tires on my wife's Camry for the past three years. Love them! Great in every season! The only thing (and it's minor) is when turning at low speeds they are noisy as heck! Took a little getting used to, but that happened quickly. Wearing on the tires is as expected. Will be getting the CC2s when needed. Worth every penny!
I’m having a set of these when my winters run out of tread
I became a Michelin fan in the 70s, they lost my preference over the years. Now have the cross climate twos on a Acura TL and love that tire.
I wish I still had my Toyota Celica Alltrac (moment of grieving) to give this tire a thorough test.
One other observation I’d like to make: Of the eighteen (18) tires classified as “performance all-season” by Consumer Reports, only one-the Uniroyal Tiger Paw Touring A/S-had worse rolling resistance ratings than the CrossClimate2. So while it appears that Michelin has certainly made some improvements over the CrossClimate+, if we can believe CR’s testing, the CrossClimate2 is still one of the most thirsty of the lot. It’s too bad, too, because rolling resistance is a metric that matters to me.
Are any of the other tires 3 peak snow certified?
@@toddjohnson6809 vredestein quatrac pro is
I put a set of Firestone Weathergrip on my 07' Mercury Grand Marquis 4.6L. From Boise, Idaho to Salt Lake City, Utah. Got 26 mpg. My Honda CRV and Ford Escape with all season tires gets 23 mpg. Both 4 cylinder. I have a set of studded snow tires for the Honda, which lowers the mpg to 17.
It is important to note that US+Canada CrossClimate2 model is different from the one sold in EU - significantly higher rolling resistance for the US-spec CrossClimate 2 - my Camry Hybrid LE shows -10% less mpg vs Firestone FT140. The cost of better grip is non-negligible.
Planning on fitting this to my mk7 golf GTi on 17" winter wheels. Have had crossclimates before and loved them
I just put these tires on my wife's Golf and they feel so good in dry handling, I might actually replace the PS4s on my G70 with them! Really looking forward to pushing them in the winter.
Nice :)
Ok no doubt amazing all rounder tire, but in dry handling I'd feel cataclysmic disappointment swapping out PS4s for these.....
@@damiendegrasse that's my dilemma, will the cc's be anywhere near comparable to pilot sport all season 4 in all but snow?
I live in the Scottish Highlands (not far from Glenshee) and we used to see a lot of CC tyres, but the numbers have lowered and folk are back to using winter tyres in the winter.
It’s not so much the snow, it’s the ice/frost. We regularly see -10, -15 is not unusual and last winter we got to -18.7 degrees centigrade.
On very cold roads, frosty rods and ice, the CC is not great.
Was up the ski resort ( Glenshee)new years day, 1st time there and what stunning place when covered in snow.
@@stephenquinn4826 it’s a very special place to live.
your very lucky, i got stuck on the incline heading to the resort... hence looking at tyre reviews :) all the best.
Hi Jonathan , 240 mile journey over two days in Scotland torrential rain on day 1. Fair weather on day 2. Tesla Model 3 Performance on 18” aftermarket alloys and CC2, cold tyre pressure 3.0bar. Car achieved 4.21 miles per KWh which is outstanding for time of year on a pre heat pump Tesla. Goes to show the quality of this tyre, looking forward to snow to see how performs.
Is it sad that I have been waiting for this review for months and am very excited it’s finally here
I hope it doesn't disappoint!
Have had these on my wife's 2017 Pacifica for a couple months and am very happy with them over the OE tire. Not sure if they will see snow this year in the Mid-Atlantic US, but I am relieved to hear such a great review on them. Thanks!
The tread doesn't run out on these tyres, no matter how hard you drive and how crappy the roads are, hot damn. They have lasted me for 12000 miles and are still above 3mm and evenly worn
:o they do wear very well!
I bought a set of CC + in 2017 when they first came out. This is my 5th winter on the same set of tyres. I use them Nov to April in central european mountains where we have lots of snow. They are good enough to take me sking. We ski around 1600 to 2500 meters in temps -3 to -12c. In winter on a cold but dry day, they feel very good. Not far off a summer tyre in warm conditions and much better than summer tyres on cold dry or wet weather. I live at 800 metres above sea level. After over 30,000 winter only km the cc+ still have 4.5 mm left rear and 5 mm on front. Fuel consumption is very impressive. For comparison I use an old set energy saver plus tyres in summer ( from 2015, 85k and 3.5mm left), if you take out wet days (extra drag) these CC+ are within 2 mpg of my energy saver +. Thats amazing mpg for a tyre with reasonable snow performance. Also note in cold wet November conditions on energy summer tyres i get wheel spin off the front even with 4wd. But with CC+ no wheel spin, it just launches faster so wet grip in cold temps is way more than a summer tyre. My car is E91 320d xdrive tunned to 230hp and 340lbs. 205 55 16s V 91 size. Plenty of power to kick the tail out. Im very tempted to try this CC2 next season. Compared with CC+ if the CC2 has a bit more snow performance that would be very helpful. On dry days
Great review, I’m currently trying to decide between between the 205,50,16 and the 225,50,16.
I’ve had the continental all seasons for the last two years (thanks to you) in 215,45,16 and they were really good apart from aqua planing where they were really poor. They make British winters a lot safer.
Hello! What did you choose in the end?
I put these on my Alfa Stelvio 18 months ago and have been truly impressed. Great all year tires.
Great video! And fantastic tyres, I have used cross climate tyres on all my cars.
In my experience, Four wheel drive on summer tyres is useless on the snow, and even dangerous.
Save yourself some money get a front wheel drive car with Michelin Cross climate tyres and you will not regret it.
I've done a few videos proving that :
In 2016 or 17 i bought Michelin cross climate for my renault laguna III. This year , after emerygency breaking i'm 100% sure i will buy cross climate 2
This channel is awesome... Anyone who uses a car with tyres should watch!
lol, and even the people who use cars without tyres
The cross-climate 2 is overall the best tire in Seattle, USA because we get all seasoned weather. An they work really good in the snow and slush backroads.
Just changed my original fitted Dunlop’s for Cross Climate 2’s on my Camry Excel. Only done approximately 50 miles but noticeable how smooth the ride is now. Grip in damp conditions was good and predictable slides (under steer) which gave me confidence at the limit. So far so good!
Did you use Dunlop conquest touring before? I am in similar situation and would like to change too
I took a picture of my friends tire so I would remember it and now it showed up in my feed! Thanks big brother.
:D
Been looking forward to an update and a proper test on these tyres. I recently got 4 CC+ fitted and got a really good deal on them to the point that even with the fuel saving on CC2, the CC+ deal I got was well worth it. Also, I couldn't find any CC2 at the time at sensible prices, don't know if that has changed yet. Good to hear the snow performance has improved but a bit disappointed on the curved aqua planning results as that was always a major weakness IIRC.
The CC+ on a good deal is always a good deal :)
I have a 2021 Ford Escape Titanium Hybrid and during the 4 months between ordering it and delivery I found out what tires would be on it. The OEM tire was the Bridgestone Ecopia which I researched and found the ratings to be in the sewer. Before I even had the vehicle I started looking at other tires for it and found the Michelin CrossClimate 2. I gave the OEM tires a year and 8200 miles a chance to prove themselves but it wasn't happening. I now have a set of 225/55/19 CrossClimate 2's installed, and while I don't really have the miles on them to make a full assessment, they are looking like the real deal. I may have lost a little fuel mileage with them, but The ride and noise improvement offsets that. Expensive but impressive.
I was happy with the CC+ on my Giulietta before I sold this car 2 years ago. The CC2 was announced for the european market more than one year ago. I was waiting for it as I am not happy with the tyres delivered by Suzuki and now the CC2 seems to be available more and more. I am looking forward to put this tyre on my '19 Swift Sport (215/40 17). The CC+ is not offered in dimensions I can use for this car.
Full sizes went live yesterday :)
Thanks for the great reviews and followup's to all the posts. I damaged one of my OEM tires and had to purchase new tires ASAP. I decided to try Michelin CrossClimate 2 tires manufactured for the North American market(USA). The CrossClimate 2's do handle better than the OEM's and are much more surefooted on mountain roads. I read other CrossClimate 2 hybrid owners reviews. They were getting lower mpg on the CC2. With my OEM tires I was averaging 40 to 41 miles per gallon in my RAV4 hybrid Limited. Now, I consistently average 34.5 MPG. 15% lower. I even raised the inflation 4 psi over the recommended pressure to see if that would help. EV’s and hybrid’s get a triple hit from higher rolling resistance tires. First when running on gas only, Second from faster battery drain while using battery power only and a third from a loss in regenerative battery charging when coasting or braking. Is there a way to get the Euro spec'd CrossClimate 2 here in North America? As reviewed here, with their lower rolling resistance, they would be perfect for Hybrid and EV owners.
Yes, thank you so much! That was the test I'm waiting for month.
Hope you like it!
I have the CrossClimate 1 and the grip on dry roads is amazing! Will getting die CrossClimate 2 very soon
How does that Lap time line up with something like a primacy? Have the primacy as a OEM tyre fitment on both my cars and was wondering if it's worth the swap. Id like to maintain an ability for some spirited summer drives in the short UK summer months
I've a summer tyre in the all season test and at 4c the CC2 was 1.1 seconds behind (44.7 second lap) and 0.6 behind in the wet.
That said, these were perfectly fine for hooning around Scotland
@@tyrereviews thanks for the response
@@tyrereviews It would be very interesting testing the performance of the CrossClimate 2 comparing the Primacy 4 and the Pilot Sport 4!
@@Brukers3 Also add Pilot Sport All Season 4!
My Hero! I have the + on my VW UP! and iam very happy with them. I will put the crossclimate 2 on my 5008 once the summer tires are done. Cant wait to test them in some snow.
Couldn't wait for this video and next all season announced comparison! Meanwhile I'll continue to "preach your word" in order to make roads more safe choosing the right tyre for every particular local situation and convert my friends to all season tyres😂😂😂
Thanks and a big hug from Tuscany 🇮🇹
Thank you :D
I put a set of the CrossClimate2's on my wife's 2019 Chrysler Pacifica (245/50R20) last November and they are fantastic. We live in Northern Illinois and these tires are great in the snow, almost as good as a dedicated snow tire. Also fantastic in the rain and of course dry. If I have any negative, I do find them a bit nosier than the Falken OEM tires that the Michelins replaced.
Glad you like them :D
Thank you for the video, Jonathan. It's really great to see you back on the testing track. 😃
The CC2's seem to be a worthy upgrade over the CC+'s. But, for what it seems, the design is not that much different and I expect to see almost the same behaviour on the road, especially on dry and wet roads. The problems I had with the original CC's were not on snowy roads, although that was their Achilles heel, because I am a self conscious driver and on the precautionary side. They tend to be very stiff and noisy on a not so perfect tarmac and they easily transmit these vibrations and noises in the cabin. Also, their lateral grip especially on wet roads feels pretty unsafe. And, lastly, they don't like hot weather. I live on the black sea coast in Romania, and here we have very hot and long summers which puts their toll on the life of these tyres. Not necessarily on wear, but with regards to their performance.
I am eagerly waiting for your all season tyres test to see these against Vredestein Quatrac and Pirelli SF2.
The CC2 is improved. I'm surprised you say the CC was stiff and noisy as it wasn't outragious whenever I tested it. Perhaps a quirk of your size / vehicle
@@tyrereviewsI've done 35k miles on 215/50/R17 95W XL Crossclimate+ on a Nissan Leaf and I have to agree with @georgerobert2917 that they are stiff and noisy, in fact I would have to say they have a very harsh uncomfortable ride compared to the original Summer tyres to the point I regretted buying them. The car was originally speced for 91 load rated tyres so I suspect 95 XL is the problem, but the CC+ was not available in this size in a standard 91 load rating. However I've noticed the CC2 is available in 91 non-XL load rating so I am tempted as I liked the other aspects of the tyre other than the harsh ride and that they were a bit noisy. But I'm wary of ending up with another harsh riding tyre... :(
Great review - just ordered my CC2s for my “modern classic” Focus ST3 5 cylinder
Good to see another video my man! Please whenever you can - compare a cheap summer and cheap winter vs a premium all season tire. It’s a dilemma for many - should I buy 2 cheap sets or one all season good one?
Exactly! 👍
It's on the list, but I would pick the all season for sure.
I am more interested in the mainstream summer tyre vs all seasons. I would never buy cheap junk ever again, anyway.
@@DashCamSerbia Also coming :)
@@DashCamSerbia by cheap I meant getting Falkens instead of Michelin’s. Those LingLongs etc shouldn’t be legal anyway
Had the the originals on my Bmax, best tyre I've ever used. Having the 2's fitted Thursday.
Thank you very much, so much questions are answered now! I can't wait to see the full all season test!
I can't wait to publish it!
@@tyrereviews do you know the actual date then? I'm buying tires now and could use your advice :)
@@zbyszanna Few weeks from now, but there's already some 2021 all season tests on www.tyrereviews.com, and one with the CC2 :) www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Auto-Bild-SUV-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
@@tyrereviews did not expect an answer tbh :) Thanks.
@@tyrereviews Unfortunately I didn't have time to wait for the full review, so I went ahead and bought the CC2. If anything's wrong with them, I will blame you and write nasty comments under the video ;) Just joking of course. Looking forward to my new tires. Cheers.
The Michelin Cross climate 2 are excellent on my 2014 Subaru Legacy.. 45cm of snow, no problem car goes right through it
17 Tucson AWD same!
Just put a set on a 2011 Nissan Juke FWD, replacing a set of Michelin Premier A/S, and I am definitely impressed so far in all aspects (haven't seen snow yet). Much quieter (as well as lower road noise resonance as you mentioned), vastly more comfortable while feeling much more confident, excellent dry drip as well as amazing wet performance. I can't wait to test them in the snow in the next few months
These are better then Premier A/S i hope so. New some new tires soon for my 04 Accord EX V6 Sedan model only 76,300 miles.
Well Done great Review. The best Tyre Channel. Got the Michelin CrossClimate non Plus and with 195 and still an awesome one after 4 years.
Veoma sam zadovoljan sa ovim vašim videom jer ja sam na svoj MERCEDES E klase ugradio Cross Climate 2015god i prešao sam za 8 god 200000 km a sada sam ponovo kupio i ugradio Cross Climate2 i biti ču siguran u prometu narednih 8 godinapozdrav iz HRVATSKE✌
Summer biased?? These are sold in Canada as Winter biased. The first of a wave of "All Weather" tires that have more Winter capability than "All Season" tires, and that get the "Mountain Snowflake" rating. This is allows them to be used as winter tires is places that required dedicated winter tires in the past.
Yeah, that's the difference in markets. We've had your "all weather tyres" for a long time, and your all season tyres don't exist here
@@tyrereviews the All Weather tire segment is really taking off in North America as a real alternative to all seasons. CrossClimate 2 vs Vredestein Quatrac Pro, etc. Interesting to hear the regional market differences.
Yeah as someone also in Canada I was thinking the exact same thing
Any chance Michelin will release something along these lines in truck/SUV sizes? Say 265/65-17 or roundabouts that? It feels like it would be the perfect tire for how many people in the US their trucks.
Great review. I've had cross climates for years and recommended them to everyone. In the bad snow years ago they got me to work when many people couldn't. Great tyres and I'll upgrade, but they last me an easy 50k miles and I don't baby them, so it'll be awhile.
Glad you're liking them
Lasted 50,000 miles.. Must drive like an old lady to get tyres to last that long..
I bought kleber quadraxer 3 and hope to survive during winter time in Poland. Snow is a rare fenomenum nowadays hence my brave decision about buying quadraxer 3.
Never been so excited to watch a tyre review 🤣😂
I hope you enjoy it :)
@@tyrereviews I did! I bought Crossclimates for my Ioniq after watching one of your reviews about 2 years ago. absolute night and day difference in the winter compared with the OE Energy Savers but what surprised me is they were better in the summer too, quieter and as efficient the only thing I won’t know is the life as I swapped at 27k and I’ve done 20k since but my cars going back in November. Looking for a all season for my ID3 - I think I’ve found it! - Edit - They don’t do a size for the ID3 😭
I used to have michelin CrossClimate + in my bmw e92 (218) and i bought michelins again to my mercedes witch 306hp and they are doing fantastic ❤️👍
Glad oyu like them :)
Superb !! Really well explained, love it !! Keep it up man, greetings from Barcelona :)
Awesome, thank you!
I had CrossClimate + (205/60-16) on our Citroën C4 Picasso II and was very satisfied. We live in Denmark where the weather conditions are very reminiscent of the north of England and the coastal areas of Scotland. However, we also drive in the inner parts of Norway where there are proper winter conditions and the tires impressed there as well. The only thing I found negative about the tires was that the noise level increased relatively much as the tires were worn (at least on our car). Our next tires were Nokian Weatherproof and overall I am a little more satisfied with these tires compared to the CrossClimate +. Weatherproof is in my opinion a little more comfortable and a little more precise in the steering - otherwise about the same as CrossClimate +. I look forward to trying CrossClimate 2 when it becomes relevant. Thanks for informative videos and keep up the good work :)
That is to be sayed the main disadvantage with directional tyres in combination with fron wheel drive in general. If you care about that, tyres like the Pirelli or Vredestein with asymetric thread pattern should perform better as you can switch them across the sides. But they do generally not perform as well as asymetric ones. Must say that I was lucky with my A4 B9 in combination with the Conti TS860 as they remained quiet thru theis lifetime. Nevertheless, I'm a string advocate regarding cross-swithing of tyres on a front-wheel car. Maybe this leads to earlier weary-out of tyres (say 5000km), but this method makes them wear-out more equally resulting in less noise.
@@markusweissenbock6337 Thank you for the answer. I was not aware that the reason for the increased noise from the tires over time is that the tires are directional. This makes absolute sense as the Weatherproof tires are now also starting to make more noise than when they were new (they have now driven approx. 15000 Km). However, they make significantly less noise than the CrossClimate + tires when they were similarly worn. The rear tires are much less worn than the front tires and I consider buying two new Weatherproof tires and fitting these to the back of the car (and of course moving the previous rear tires to the front of the car).
Gosh, new content coming. Can't wait.
This will be the tire I look for on our 2021 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid for winter use in South Dakota.
Still happy with my cc+ so far, and I guess I real life differences in performance would be almost imperceptible at all. But that having on mind u will go for cc2 in few years:). Thanks for your work, keep it objective and impartial. Take care.
thanks for the kind words :)
How is the braking on wet and snow?
I just purchased a set of these at Costco for 800 bucks, I have no doubt that these will be great handling I'm just hoping that the road noise is equally as great.
Oh, I was waiting for this for so long! Thanks! :D
Will Pirelli CInturato All Season SF2 be included in the upcoming test?
Yes it will, and it's rather good!
@@tyrereviews Nice! Thank you. I am planning on buying an Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1.4 Multiair 170hp next year, and I want to get all season tyres for it as well. Hope they are good enough for sporty driving, mainly on the dry.
THANK YOU for this detailed comparo. I live in Nevada, USA and go from desert to snowy mountains and need a "snow capable" All Season tire. For my 2019 MAZDA X-5 GT Reserve 2.5 turbo SUV I'll be upgrading the width in my tires from 225 to 245 and this Cross Climate 2 is perfect for this vehicle and my intended uses.
I love my CrossClimate+ Tyres, I'll definitely buy some more.
Glad you like them :)
Purchased the CrossClimate2 tyres here in Florida for my 2015 Honda Accord EXL V6. Have experienced some "wandering " at 60 mph. The vehicle has had a 4 wheel alignment when the tyres were fitted. Will raise the tyre pressure to 35 psi all around, then check again at 60 & 90 mph on the Interstate. At the lower speeds the vehicle feels "glued " to the road, not in a negative way. Other than this l am satisfied with my purchase.
Let me know if the pressure helped
Finally some more Rubber testing!!!
Yay!
Very good tire. As i saw in the tests, its a little bit better then one of my all season tire's, which is GoodYear Vector Gen-3. I have Michelin Crossclimate+ too, im very satisfied with it. It done almost 30.000km, and it has 6mm tread depth (the original is 7 mm). Driving is average, sometimes normal, sometimes spirited.
Finally! :) Thanks!
No problem!
My MK 7.5 Golf R is trying it’s hardest to ware out my set of CrossClimates + I fitted in November 2019. Excellent tyre so the new & improves CC2 must be amazing. Thanks for a great video, on point info and awesome drone shots from the Scottish Highlands 👌🏼😎👍🏼
Must try harder ;)
Still trying with my Polo , 62k km 😂😂😂
Hey Jonathan I’m one of your biggest fans and have been waiting a year for this one
My only gripe ….. how can a 3 day, 15hr, 1000 mile trip only result in a 9 min video 😩
C’mon dude this should have been 3hrs long at least 😂😂
I mean, next time at least talk a bit slower 🤣👍🏼
Seriously though, awesome work mate and thanks for doing this 👍🏼
Haha, thanks! The original CC video from 2015 was only 5 minutes long, so we have progress :)
@@tyrereviews 😂😂😂
Super happy after 20 000km with CC+. What I worry about is that CC2 is 2dB louder (when it's time to replace).
Another great video, Jonathan! Makes me want to go buy some more tires :)
Do it do it!
Ok, fitted. After 1000miles in the south west of the uk...if you like sporty driving or throw the car around the corners this is not your tyre. The turning as you drive in a sporty manner is poor and so is the feedback from the stearing, you have to fight a bit to get the car around the bend. The grip is decent. In the wet is quite good. See how much does it improve as the weather gets colder or if we see any snow...
I hope you get some snow :)
Waiting for this one, thanks for the great review. Definitely going to move from my full on winters to these for UK winter usage, seems like the perfect UK winter tyre
Hope you enjoy it!
My wife has had this tire on her STI for over a year now, including 1 full winter. It rocks, espeically in the snow...
Been waiting for some tyre content…
Hope you enjoy!
Can’r wait for that full All-Season test! These tyres are really getting better and start deserving some serious consideration👍
Just purchased a 2021 Subaru Outback that will be due for tires in the winter. Wet with black ice on mountain passes in Pacific Northwest driving. Just retired people - speed limit driving, but the Michelins are promising!
Much respect driving 2 cars simultaneously all by yourself 😄 👍🏿
Cant wait for the comparison between these and the Bridgestone A005 EVO. My purchase decision will depend on your 2021 roundup.
This firmly beats it
Just tested the cross climate 2s on a very snowy street and I have to say these tyres are exceptional. Have used normal tyres on snowy streets before and you feel like you could lose grip easily but these new ones where like a hot knife through butter, felt so safe and secure. They also work well in heavy rain and on muddy roads up north of Scotland 👌.
Love these tires. Great in all weather, though only had limited snow experience. In wet weather it was a tank. So confidence inspiring. Will be adding to my new suv.
Which should I get? Subaru Impreza wagon WRX limited. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 or CrossClimate 2? mostly commuting and rain (Hawaii weather) no snow. Want the edge of better handling in we and dry. Mahalos in advance! Love your reviews!
PS4 for sure
@@tyrereviews Much Mahalos for the recommendation.
I switched to CC2s about three months ago and have put several thousand miles on them, in most of what the UK climate can offer, including two trips to Scotland which had plenty of rain and snow. They feel the same as the set of CC+ I had priory to switching.
However, the fuel economy is utterly abysmal in comparison. I'm seeing around a 15% drop in range over a full tank of fuel when using it normally/ commuting etc, and around a 10% drop on what I'd normally see on a long run of say 300 - 500 miles for example. I was not relying on trip computers or anything like that - I noticed I ran low much earlier than normal so I brimmed the tank , ran it low again and filled up again a few times.
Given the claims about improved rolling resistance and economy, versus their previous tyres, you can imagine my surprise.
Thanks so much for the CrossClimate 2 demonstartion. I plan on putting them on my Buick Encore 215/55/18, as well as my Dodge Challenger 235/55/18. However, the Challengre will only have them on for the winter. Dave
Very welcome!
Just picked up a set of Contis so...useful information for next time I guess?
Waiting on brake parts so hopefully I'll get them mounted this weekend.
Still great tyres!