Leonardo’s AW609 Tiltrotor Progresses Toward Certification - AIN
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- It has been a long road, but rotorcraft manufacturer Leonardo is making steady progress towards the certification of the AW609, the first civil tiltrotor. Like the V-22 Osprey it is descended from, the twin-rotor aircraft has had an extended gestation period.
In 1998 Leonardo, then known as Agusta joined with Bell on the BA609 project. In 2011, it bought out Bell to bring the 609 entirely in-house. Since then the airframer has flown and tested four of the tiltrotors. The fifth unit or P-5, recently rolled off the production line at its U.S. production facility in Philadelphia. That aircraft will be used for indirect effect of lightning tests prior to its first flight.
During a recent visit to the site by AIN, AC6, the first delivery aircraft destined for launch customer Bristow, was seen on the production line awaiting the mating of its wing to the fuselage. It has since been joined by the airframe of AC7.
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someone get that man a drink
absolutely need one of these
Pretty cool looking, I hope it works out and gets certified soon 😎👍
In the year 2609...still waiting for certification.
That's the nice new modern world ...
If the old aviation adage that “ if it looks right it will fly right” is correct this should be a great aircraft.
I hope that’s sarcasm bc tilt rotor aircrafts don’t look right or natural to me lol
Nope.
Can you say VRS and destroying anything within 1000 feet with its rotor wash?
I'm an old pilot.
It looks bad.
It will kill a lot of people.
@@Chris.Davies Only a few at a time. Still thousands of times safer than using suborbital rockets for point to point global travel as some people are suggesting.
@@Chris.Davies Well, let's see if this aged well in the next few years
gorgeous looking aircraft !
looks really good
It's a plane? It's a helicopter? No it's both! What a beautiful machine!
It's a mediocre helicopter that transforms into a mediocre airplane. That's the problem with tiltrotors they have to compromise between disk loading in hover and prop drag in forward flight and there is no way around that. Helicopters will always be more efficient in hover and airplanes will always be more efficient in flight. And any development in engines or prop design will also be applicable to helicopters and airplanes which will always keep them ahead.
@@atomicskull6405 uhh what about being faster than helicopter but being able to land anywhere ?. Look i know they suck at loiter time, maintenance and cost but theres the pro's at least.
@@atomicskull6405 You totally missed the point of tiltrotors.
Could you imagine seeing this being used for NYC to Boston Shuttle services. And this thing could go straight to the 34th Street Heliport
Having a helicopter or private plane would be cool, but having a tiltrotor would be awesome!
What about a sex change? That's pretty awesome too!
@@siphotheguy1870 lol no thanks
@@siphotheguy1870 Lmao no thank you
I agree, but cost and running costs? Apart from speed, does it compete with a similar helicopter?
@@malcolmabram2957: A tiltrotor will never be as good at hovering as a helicopter, nor as efficient as an airplane when flying horizontally, but like any hybrid design, it's not expected to.
If you need to move point-to-point within a couple hundred miles at speeds up to 130 mph, you get a helicopter for a couple million dollars.
If you need to get from airport-to-airport within several hundred miles at speeds up to 200 mph, you get a single engine propeller airplane for $50,000+.
If you need to get from airport-to-airport within 1,500 miles at speeds up to 400 mph, you get a light private jet for several million dollars.
If you want to go point-to-point within several hundred miles at speeds up to 300 mph, you get an AW609 for $20 million+. This gives it the speed and range comparable to turboprops but able to skip airports altogether. You could go from a rooftop or parking lot in New York to another in Chicago (or San Francisco to Seattle) nonstop with an ample fuel reserve and get there faster than someone taking a car or helicopter to an airport, taking a jet to another airport, then another car or helicopter to the destination. A tiltrotor is perfect for things like search and rescue, taking people to offshore oil platforms, delivering cargo between ships at sea, emergency response, and regional executive transport.
Note: The launch of a civilian version of the V-280 Valor that uses a newer tiltrotor system is anticipated soon.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks for watching!
This thing has been in development for over 20 years, get it certified already.
They made stupid design choice too, only the blades needed to tilt 90 degrees not the entire engine along with blades.
@@homijbhabha8860 what?
@@JAnx01 just look up the bell valor helicopter, they made a better version.
@@homijbhabha8860 Correctomundo.
@@homijbhabha8860 What's the downside to having the entire engine tilted instead of just the blades, and maybe also what's the advantage compared to only tilting the blades.
Awesome! Can’t wait to own one. 😁
How much money do you have in your account?
Beautiful
Wow great movement 👌
Engines and propellers look huge.
Looking forward for the;
1. Leonardo NGCTR
2. Bell V-280 Valor
3. Airbus RACER
4. Lockheed Martin Defiant-X
5. Sikorsky Raider-X
6. Bell 360 Invictus
7. Boeing CH-47 Chinook Block-II w/ T408 engine
8. Mil Mi-26 w/ PD-12V engine
@@TFT-bp8zk I'm sure there is something you are interested in but will never be able to participate in yourself... lame question.
@@TFT-bp8zk Like watching the olympics or any world cup, or following the space program, or being interested in anything not related to what you do in your life. Why are you commenting a video on an helicopter you're never going to fly on or in or whatever?
You forgot the Breville BBL620
@@TFT-bp8zk Why do you look at women?
Nice video.
Beautiful simply beautiful 😍
For emergency response all sectors emergency doctor , paramedics , police , air ambulance so vast application the best one . very successful .
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Should be the ideal version for Rescue and Coast Guard Duties I think, V22 best for more military responses?
the last time i was this early, leonardo was still known as augusta. and the predominant paint scheme was dark blue + red
this is good helicopter from leonardo company i hope it has success.
The marvel of modern aviation.
Definitely a game changer for search and rescue, and medical taxis, big time.
Bellissimo
The man at the beginning reminds me of an actor but I cannot nail down which one! Like a quasi Jeff Goldbloom almost.
I worked on this development program back the 90s. I had high hopes largely based on the slick videos Bell put out. I know these things take time, but the fact that it still isn’t fully certified makes me think Bell made the right choice to sell off. Also tells me that Bell’s promo videos are mostly BS. Also, how did any civil aircraft ever get certified in this country? I’m all for safety, but the FAA is overrun with bureaucrats. This is obvious if you consider that FAA felt compelled to develop rules for drones/planes that fly at treetop level. I know, safety first. I still miss lawn darts.
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Most applicants run ODAs now with the FAA providing oversight. The FAA doesn't have the manpower, so it works for both sides. That doesn't make for good PR though, so they don't advertise it.
You seem to overlook this is a completely new class of air vehicle. The FAA is basically working from scratch.
@@WALTERBROADDUS True, but a similar and much more complex aircraft has been safely flying for some time. Not knocking the positive work going on there at the FAA, but seems a bit sluggish. This is the kind of thing that bankrupts a company going through those hoops and kills innovation.
@@batmojuice5704 Helicopters had the same issue 80 years ago. Military flight and civil flight have different regs. The change in companies slowed things too. They call D.C. a swamp for a reason....
William Sunick looks stressed out. Hope they pass the certification.
It looks like the future is nearly here.
I'd hate to have been a customer waiting 15 years for one!
Tilt rotors are cool.
Would make a pretty neat private transport.
No it wouldn't because if you thought maintenance costs where eyebrow raising for conventional helicopters then this thing wold make you run for the hills.
This has been in the works for 23 years? o_O
So... what's the maint hours to flight hours ratio on the Osprey again?
lol
I'd like to see those images without a cut when they show the transition
Leonardo still has not publicly addressed the noise concerns or true operational maintenance. I guess the latter will ultimately address the first in the real world.
No more noise than anything else. Nor is the maintenance special.
no tail rotor, advanced helicopter gears or head - and lands as a plane with both motors out (or just drop slowly as a gyrocopter)
This thong is progressing towards certification for 20+ years
So is it possible for a tilt jet engine plane would it be worth it?
Yeah it's only been 2 decades. . . .
USCG need these
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These craft need shafts running through the wing to keep both props turning in the event of an engine failure as the craft cannot balance wingtip thrust against the tail. With engines far from cabin, it might be a bit quieter, but pressure waves off prop are most noisy - noise cancelling used?? The engine-prop setup is very similar to the ATR72 and earlier versions of this prop aircraft assembled in Italy.
I think better to have the engines (even a single engine) above the wing centre box and a more traditional twin engine helicopter setup, except that the power shafts go out sideways rather than up. The engine/prop unit is very-much not weight-balanced around the wingtip pivot. Could use electric motors to rotate pivot on a planetary gear, and also feather the props this way. This way, it would be possible in the event of total loss of engine power, to harvest some energy from the props via electric motors, and also a battery, to gradually pivot the props from horizontal to vertical as the craft slowed down, and then autorotate to a landing.
Gliding is safer than autorotate, especially with light rotors which don't hold much energy.
Read the wiki before. It have common driveshaft and autorotation.
@@nicklaich I can't see which was the wiki before. The two sets of props surely must either be driven together, or autorotate together. tail is too small for tail to resist force of of power to only one engine.
@@peteregan3862 Your ideas don't really make sense or are needed.
I think you should shut up a single prop in the middle? Sounds dumb.
Could we get a fixed wing version using that fuselage? Beautiful design.
Price ?
23 years and counting.....
Looks like Steve Buscemi’s brother, Donnie, sells planes… cool
Imagine if the wright brothers needed to do these tests...
Osprey has a limited decent rate of 500 ft/s or 150 m/s thus if this aircraft does not have the ability to solve the wing wash onto the rotor blades most decents will be made in forward flight mode or mixed mode and may see certification at lighter loads (cabin loads of 2,200-3000 lb or 1 -1.3 m ton) than 'advertised'.. this is not an extended operations vertical machine. the CH 46/ Vertol 107 is far better as to being a lifter in vertical and in stationary position mode and has a 140 kt cruise for 500 kts.. the 'helo-jog' jumpy vibration still can be seen in the forward flight mode as is more prevalent in the two and three bladed designs and that will also become a factor as owners will have to content with guests with the 'weaker stomach' puking in the cabin...
You mean 500 ft/minute, not second. No aircraft descends at 500 ft per second.
The 46 is never going to have the speed, range, or altitude.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Not to mention they were old and getting very expensive to maintain.
@@JustaPilot1 I don't get the negative Nancy's comments on tilt rotors? Half have no clue about engineering or aerospace. The other know only myth and rumor.....
@@WALTERBROADDUS This ^^^ all of this. You are correct. Most of what they believe is, as you said, myth and rumor with a side order of silly conspiracy theories.
I hear it at all levels of aviation from General Aviation, where I'm at, to space flight.
Will there be an enlarged Military variant of it?
No. This a civil aircraft. Bell And Boeing have the Military market.
Well, the only thing I want to know is what happn if 1 engine flame out, especially with the engine in horizontal position. Does it enter autorotation or fly to the ground?
Wikipedia: "In the event of a single engine failure, either engine can provide power to both proprotors via a drive shaft; the AW609 is also capable of autorotation."
@@timmurphy5541 thanks
It's no more likely than your average Cessna twin engine to have that issue.
It’s connected by shaft
Will this be given a rating? Its been around since 2009
Understand here, your inventing an entirely new FAA class.
A beautiful dream, but a hat too big for Leonardo. Decades ago it was the BA609 project, then the Agusta Westland AW609 ... I don't think Leonardo will get the certifications needed for series production and marketing. Too bad all the beautiful and viable projects: AW101, AW109 Grand, DaVinci, AW139! I hope and wish them luck!
Considering they're already at the production level, your concerns are misplaced.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Are you sure it went into production? Or are you launching fake news like the Covid19 pandemic? :))
@@liviubivolan7352 The video stated they have built 4 and are opening a building for the full production separate from the chopper projects.
Fine. I’ll take 2
Well, What is the price, just in case i can afford ordering one unit .
😎
with two moving engines between vertical and horizontal that has proven its worth in carrying large weights and for longitudinal distances and at high speed and has been operating for years, so why not adopt the model and start its marketing production
Is it able to operate single engine?
The props are connected by shaft
In the 20 years since this was developed we realised quadcopters are controllable. Put 2 more tilt rotors at the back and the engineering of the rotor head gets far easier. Currently each of the rotors needs a full helicopter rotor head capable of moving lift around (no other way to control pitch in a hover). 4 rotors just needs a collective, which most advanced props have anyway.
This thing is already obsolete.
It would've replace the CH-47 and CH-53.
Tilt rotors seem to be begging to be used for sars and bush operations where no clearing is large enough to accommodate planes and helios would be too slow in rescue situations.
What’s the engine out procedure ?
I think there's a power shaft in the wing that runs between both engines, so the plane can fly okay with either one of the engines running. It would be pretty exciting to say the least.
@@tobuslieven some pax might worry. It’d be a massive torque load resulting in order to keep level and or straight.
No thanks.
@@davidpearn5925 There's no torque on the aircraft, as both rotors will be powered and spinning with either engine running. Still seems a bit iffy though.
@@tobuslieven yeah of course. Just so long as there is no transmission linkage problem to start with, but still no thanks.
@@davidpearn5925 Lol, yeah.
Wonder how they handle the lubrication on those engines? Having them stand on end is going to do strange things to the oil returns, and a standard off-the-shelf turboprop wouldn't have been designed from Square One to run in that orientation.
What is exactly the value proposition for this craft? Does the civilian market really need a tiltrotor aircraft?
If you are paying $300 per hour per passenger for oil rig workers to commute two hours to an offshore rig this looks very attractive. A number of offshore facilities being planned are also out of helicopter range at the moment (I know of one where a runway on the top deck was planned to handle 737’s).
@@allangibson2408 Okay, that makes sense, but a plane like this, with a long development history, and something that is much more complicated than a helicopter or plane, has to have a broader market in mind than just off shore oil rig workers(?)
@@jameskwon7617 Offshore oil rigs are the biggest users of helicopters (and a number of developments are pushing their limits). Basically oil companies have money and would buy a couple of hundred tomorrow if they were available. That’s who Bristow (the launch customer) serve.
@@allangibson2408 Didn't know that. Good bit of information. My guess is that the current landing platforms may need to be modified and new ones redesigned. The heat generated by the turboprops can melt regular asphalt. Also, the footprint of a tiltrotor is larger because of the wingspan. I'm assuming the platforms would have to be resized to accommodate this and for safety reasons when boarding and disembarking.
@@jameskwon7617 The offshore helipads are already vented and the helicopters overhang them already (having the engines overhang the sides would actually be safer).
Hope it's affordable
Like a cockroach, the AW609 doesn't die!
anyone know what happens when one rotor fails ???
Rotors are connected. If an engine fails, both rotors keep turning.
@@rubentorrespina9188 thats cool thanks RTP
I just don't see there being a very big market for these
Wasnt the osprey one of the most dangerous aircraft that the marines operated? these look cool but if the military said they were difficult to fly, the civilian space is more than likely gonna have higher fail rates
I never met a Marine or AFSOC V-22 pilot who said that. They felt a really great aircraft to fly.
I think that may have been it has taken a while
Meanwhile Bell has put out a better version of this for the US army
Which will likely be passed over for the coaxial helicopter competitor because the army wants a utility heli and gunship based on the same parts inventory like the USMC's Hueys and Snakes (the UH-1 and AH-1 are basically the same helicopter from the rotor back) and the key west agreements bars the Army from having armed fixed wings.
The last time the US Army tried a hybrid with the AH-56 Cheyenne the USAF ended up lobbying against it because they felt that despite the rotor the pusher prop and stub wings made it an airplane and poached on their close air support mission (which it kinda did). The AH-56 was one of the most capable attack helicopters ever designed but in the end politics killed it.
that executive has a weird accent wheres he from? new york?
Would it had hurt them to make the cabin more roomy. I have bad claustrophobia. That current layout would be a hard no for me.
Who gives a f*ck, you won't be able to afford this thing anyway 🙄😒
what do these do that helicopters cant? do we really need tilt rotors? OUtside of military tactical objectives im not convinced its civil application... but happpy enlightened also
Tilt rotors are faster than conventional helicopters. For certain operators that speed is worth paying for.
Basically it offers a longer range higher speed civil V/STOL. Thing people forget is Helicopter flight is not fun and games. Choppers place a toll on the flight crew and passengers compared to fixed wing most chopper flights don’t last over an hour it’s just to taxing. These don’t do that as the fixed wing is smoother, more fuel efficient and as both insulated and pressurized more able vs even V22 to operate at max altitude. For a VVIP in example it means that they can hop a AW609 at a helicopter pad at say a office, palace or site and fly directly to destination without need of landing at an airport and switching unless the destination is intercontinental. Where for such a costumer the Helicopter would be a Taxi cab this becomes a middle range option. For flying ambulance it drops flight times and offers the legs to get to a better hospital. For Search and Rescue you have longer range more ability to search over a wider reach and get back to refuel. For Off shore drilling you can fly the humans to destination farther and faster.
@@terranempire2 OK ok.. Makes more sense. Def a niche market but a market nonetheless. Someone has to fill it
@@dawsonj7016 It's not a niche market. It makes the helicopter the niche market as only heavy lift or very small helicopters will have a niche. This can replace most other uses in the large helicopter market and is especially useful for SAR and Medi work. It replaces two aircraft or types of transport for one trip objective with it's long range and speed direct to the landing pad capability.
It can out fly any helicopter. Has better speed , better range and altitude.
What's the purpose of this aircraft ?
The purpose? Civil transport, air ambulance, oil rig support, Etc. It does everything a twin engine aircraft medium-range can do with vertical takeoff capability.You can avoid need to use busy airports to smaller ones. Fly faster than any helicopter can. Better range too.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Yes I've been thinking about it... as a replacement for a chopper... dam good come to think of it... :)
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I hope I was rich enough to get this aircraft
Now tell me that doesn’t look super cool!
I wonder if you need a heli or airplane license…
when they try to convert a retire Military V-22 Osprey into Private VTOL plane.
AW609 $25mill, hmm, must buy one
Just because the Military can make one that *almost* works for a few billion dollars, doesn't mean you can make one for a few million.
It’s very small! Try to make little Larger it’s Beautyfull Maschin
No patent issue ?
Because it looks like the u.s. one.
There is no issue
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Just seems like way too much monkey motion with the whole engine nacelle and prop rotating. I like the one the Army is working on right now that only tips the prop and the gearbox for it. Have a few friends that worked V-22's and they said there are some issues with it, but they liked them. Don't believe a tilt rotor can auto rotate.
Had a conversation will an engineer about tilt-rotor auto rotation. Long story short is they can auto rotate and it has been demonstrated. However, the conclusion during development was that gliding to a crash landing is more feasible and safer in most conditions thus auto rotate is not taught as SOP for tilt-rotors.
It would probably glide as well as it auto rotates.
From wikipedia, with quotes:
In early summer 2014, the AW609 performed FAA-monitored autorotation tests; more than 79[32] power-off conversions from airplane mode to helicopter mode were made across 10 flight hours; during these tests it was stated that the minimum autorotation altitude is 3,000 ft (910 m), and that the system keeps rotor rpm above the minimum 70% for stable recovery.[51] The test pilots subsequently received the Iven C. Kincheloe Award for their role in the tests.
This obsession with autorotation is a false one. It rarely comes in play. And it has a fixed wing for lift.
@@WALTERBROADDUS A statement like that would be backed up by a degree in aerodynamics. or a rotary wing rating ?
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Given the poor prospects for the offshore petroleum industry, the high purchase price and operating costs for this aircraft, and it's long and uncertain gestation, I'm not holding my breath. While I think this is a very cool aircraft, I'm not optimistic about its chances for success.
Also poor safety records of v22 osprey will be a hurdle for it's success.
@@tweetteet2786 Bell has proposed a new tilt rotor that would only rotate the prop rotor hubs, not the entire engine. Since Leonardo basically redesigned the 609, I’m a bit surprised they didn’t change to just rotating the prop rotor hubs.
@@tweetteet2786 that was when the tech ws being fleshed out, the perception is still there
@@tweetteet2786 The V-22 has an excellent safety record today.
Unless we go all out on nuclear, fossil fuels will power the world indefinitely. Meme energy doesn't work.
I’m skeptical. The Navy had a lot of growing pains with the V-22 that resulted in several fatal hull losses.
Everything that was ground-breaking had setbacks and losses. You don't improve by avoiding.
....the Navy/Marines had a lot of Deaths also 🤨 ...because of poor testing and operating procedures, Pentagon bloated bureaucracy, and because they were trying to ramming the development of the tilt rotor concept prematurely 🤔
@@Texaca I definitely don't disagree with you.
@@Texaca V-22 has least deaths of any US military helicopter.
Why does it have a ceiling of only 25,000 feet? Doesn't that seem a bit low for a turboprop twin?
No, most turboprop have the same ceiling.
@@Mediiiicc apparently in order to get certified above 25,000 ft an aircraft needs passenger oxygen masks.
The big rotors limit the speed somewhat, as they need a relatively low angle of attack on the air to generate thrust efficiently. That means the tips end up supersonic when going quite slowly compared to other turboprops, and that is bad. The low airspeed means low lift, which means low ceiling.
The certification about that has requirements, but I would think the main reason to not meet those requirements is that you couldn't get a ceiling much above that anyway.
Why are the engines so big? It looks bigger than a similar-size helicopter's and much biger than a similar-size prop plane's.
The Engines are not big.
Sadly this started as a Bell/Boeing product. Now is a foreign product.
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Looks like if you had an engine failure you would not be able to make a glide landing with those props.
The engines are connected through each other
Could it still be capable to fly if one engine just failed???
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