One giant advancement for the future of tiltrotor type of VTOL... The acrobatic style turns here are for landing and for demonstration purposes only... Yet the technology and its abilities are amazing...
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Great to see! Nice looking aircraft. Still terrifying that certain vortex ring conditions can be entered that are non recoverable. But then, helicopters have been flying for many decades and mostky avoid this too. Tilt rotors certainly seem to have a big role to play in developing different technologies and offering alternatives to conventional airframes and helicopters. I can see a flying doctor service in certain remote parts of the world, perhaps utilising the high speed in and out to the scene, but able to land in restricted areas as with a much slower helicopter. What an amazing world we can make it if we try hard!
I don’t know… There is not a lot of civilian tilt rotor pilots it’s going to take a lot of training this seems like the start of some really bad mishaps at least in the beginning.
All tilt rotors are deathtraps. Simply on paper it’s a terrible idea. And the private sector???? Private aviation is already 200 TIMES DEADLIER THAN COMMERCIAL.
Awesome to see! But, the biggest risk that remains with this design is asymmetrical vortex ring state. Many a V22 met its demise through this. Not an aerodynamically solvable problem. Early warning systems probably has the best chance to mitigate this.
Probably the easiest solution would be flight computer programming. Basically the same sort of self preservation that an Airbus would do should the need arise. How exactly to do that? Well, I'll admit, not my area of expertise but it seems like the easiest way to counter it.
GR8 machine! Any comment about if a Tilt rotor or ConvertiPlane (Pat US2708081; F A Dobson, 1954) would do better with engine inside fuselage, propellers moved through shafts and gears? Blessings +
As a former AW employee this always seemed to be an Italian vanity project, taken over after Bell pulled out - so, so complex mechanically, super-expensive to build, maintain and fly and only a minimal load-carrying capability; in fact, a solution looking for a problem!
I can see that, but on the other hand upgrades and technical advancements will make this aircrafts concept even more rewarding. Imagine a decentralized airport that can have airlines set up shop in the middle of a crowded city without the need for a massive airport.
Even if this doesn't make it to serial production as-is, then it still may serve as a decent prototype step towards a more affordable option to be put on market.
Series production is planned to start in 2026. Will cost 20 - 30 Mio. € depending on config. The cheapest is SAR. The most expensive is the 9 seat VIP Shuttle.
As long as Augusta Westland doesn't do the Boeing thing where they play fuck around, and find out with their design, and quality control then this should work just fine.
AW609 have its own problems. One hull and crew lost in high speed testing, flight-control logic flaw. That was seven years ago. Cert. should happen this year (but they said same in the last year)
Just a thought when you're so close to the aircraft with your lens you don't have any reference points you can't tell if it's coming or going and your not the only content creator doing the same thing if it's a cloud less day go further back and give us the ground with the aircraft it would be so much better.the best part is when it's coming in for a pass, then we have a sense of speed.
One prototype has crashed. Killing two people. They reduced the vertical tail area causing instability at high speeds. It dutch rolled so much the props hit and shreaded the wing. Warning signs showed up on a previous flight but no fix was implimented. The version shown in this video obviously has the reduced vertical tail area as well. It also has no rudder so no redundancy there. I love VTOL aircraft but I ain't getting in this one.
Looks like a civilized version of a V22 Osprey. But there is still a problem. She doesn't have any approval (yet). This makes it difficult to sell since it also has a steep price.
@@MUCSpotter In my thought, most of the tilted rotors designs more suitable to the civilian use than the military especially "no no" in combat role. Due to the cost of development, the civilian section can't afford the tilted rotor on its own. That huge budget naturally only allocated by the government to the militaries and that the reason the civilian tilted rotor couldn' t go ahead of the military one that it piggybacking. For example, why wasn't the modern fixed engine pods design like in V280 be developed and applied to the AW609 first?
It's very close to type certification. This being a new type of aircraft in the FAA view, they have had to work extensively to create a new tilt rotor class of aircraft. The new class takes inspiration from parts 23, 27 and 29 portions of the certification code.
Although probably no safer than a helicopter in vertical lift scenarios when something malfunctions, if there’s a mishap during horizontal flight, this is a much more survivable aircraft. It can glide somewhat or even fly to relative safety depending on the situation. Helicopters, on the other hand, have been a death trap for so many poor souls, even right up to now. I feel like I read about another helicopter crash every few months. If anything goes wrong in a helicopter, it’s falling like a spinning brick while the pilots fight in vain to put it into the theoretical autorotation they were promised in flight school. Multirotor craft are the future…at least until we’re allowed to know about antigravity tech. 🕵️♂️
@@MUCSpotter The Bell V-280 Valor, being the same vehicle concept as this one, is supposed to enter service for the U.S. Army by 2030 under the FLRAA program, which stands for Future Long Range Assault Aircraft. It’s got a cruise speed of 320 MPH, a top speed around 350 MPH, and a range of over 2,000 miles. Both its stationary and in-flight maneuverability are supposedly a bit quicker than a helicopter, too! I don’t know how you get all this amazing footage of aircraft, but I’m so glad I just discovered your channel. I’ll be here a lot more. Thank you!
Never knew this was in development! Beautiful aircraft, great demo and fantastic video! Thanks!,
development since the mid 90s....no joke.
@@FeralRabbit I need to pay more attention…This tiltrotor is beautiful….
25 June 2024 First landing on the Italian aircraft carrier CAVOUR for the AW-609 convertiplane
Great catch! This is a super rare flying marvel! Keep it up 👍
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One giant advancement for the future of tiltrotor type of VTOL... The acrobatic style turns here are for landing and for demonstration purposes only... Yet the technology and its abilities are amazing...
I like the AW609 a lot
she's beautiful , now maybe A.W. can catch up ! Interesting sound and amazing manoeverability ! A big THANKS for sharing .
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amazing display from this tiltrotor plane.Super video
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Amazing display and very good camera work, i'd like to see the some private AW609s, i hope they will get the license
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Great to see! Nice looking aircraft. Still terrifying that certain vortex ring conditions can be entered that are non recoverable. But then, helicopters have been flying for many decades and mostky avoid this too. Tilt rotors certainly seem to have a big role to play in developing different technologies and offering alternatives to conventional airframes and helicopters. I can see a flying doctor service in certain remote parts of the world, perhaps utilising the high speed in and out to the scene, but able to land in restricted areas as with a much slower helicopter. What an amazing world we can make it if we try hard!
We will see how it works in the future
Excellent video. This is the first time i have seen a video of a tilt rotor converting between fixed wing to rotary wing mode and then back again.
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Is it the video or do those side pods thrash about a lot? At ~ 2:25
I cannot wait until these are being bought by private operators, they seems like they have very good potential and are safer than most tiltrotors
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I don’t know… There is not a lot of civilian tilt rotor pilots it’s going to take a lot of training this seems like the start of some really bad mishaps at least in the beginning.
All tilt rotors are deathtraps. Simply on paper it’s a terrible idea. And the private sector????
Private aviation is already 200 TIMES DEADLIER THAN COMMERCIAL.
A brick with wings is safer than a tilt-rotor.
Don't know if there's many private operators except maybe the largest of the large that could afford this technology
Awesome!
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This is the future of luxury air travel
Until they start falling out of the sky!! Can anyone say Osprey!!
A very impressive display
Awesome to see! But, the biggest risk that remains with this design is asymmetrical vortex ring state. Many a V22 met its demise through this. Not an aerodynamically solvable problem. Early warning systems probably has the best chance to mitigate this.
We will see it in the future
Probably the easiest solution would be flight computer programming. Basically the same sort of self preservation that an Airbus would do should the need arise. How exactly to do that? Well, I'll admit, not my area of expertise but it seems like the easiest way to counter it.
what a rare catch! great stuff!
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Very nice 👍
What happens in the event of an engine failure? Is there a connecting drive shaft?
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amazing 👏
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Awesome catch!
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Spectecular plane spotting video buddy. Really nice 😍👍
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that is pretty cool to watch
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Nice presentation...👏🏽
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We worked on a mock up of this aircraft at Bell helicopter in 97. It was just the D-609,.
Nice !! Thanks
Incredible and cool 😊
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Gotta admit thats some next level 21st century shtuf
Yesssss, it will be nice to watch them in service
Sleek looking aircraft 👌
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I wonder if there’s a firefighting application for the tilt rotor. How much weight can they lift?
Thats a good qwestion. It will be a good firefighting aircraft i think
Nice video!👏🚁
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I've always wondered is there a mechanical crank to tilt in case of a failure.
I dont know, it will be nice to know it
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How is it any different from the Osprey?
Not much, it is also from Bell in the past
@@MUCSpotterIsn't this civilian?
GR8 machine! Any comment about if a Tilt rotor or ConvertiPlane (Pat US2708081; F A Dobson, 1954) would do better with engine inside fuselage, propellers moved through shafts and gears?
Blessings +
Thanks a lot
Fabulous although I am trying as a twin piston rated pilot what the hell one would do for single engine failure
Was für ein interessantes Fluggerät! Könnte das Baby der Osprey sein! Daumen hoch Frank ;)
Ja das hab ich mir auch gedacht, wird aber bestimmt ein erfolg. Ich denke es wird eine mega VIP Flieger davon geben
Just friggen rad. 👍🏻
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As a former AW employee this always seemed to be an Italian vanity project, taken over after Bell pulled out - so, so complex mechanically, super-expensive to build, maintain and fly and only a minimal load-carrying capability; in fact, a solution looking for a problem!
I can see that, but on the other hand upgrades and technical advancements will make this aircrafts concept even more rewarding. Imagine a decentralized airport that can have airlines set up shop in the middle of a crowded city without the need for a massive airport.
Even if this doesn't make it to serial production as-is, then it still may serve as a decent prototype step towards a more affordable option to be put on market.
good video😊
Thank you very much !!!
The aircraft comes from the American Bell 609 and Bell XV-15
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it was BA 609 BELL AGUSTA project then Bell sold bis part to Agusta and now is Leonardo 609 or AW609
@@Benito-Musolesi Correct, but the BA 609 comes from the XV-15, an experimental tiltrotor on which Bell has carried out many studies in the seventies
@@dronievoloremoto yes, the difference is that Bell isn't able to fly.
Bell are named ''the fly cofin or the widows maker''
@@Benito-Musolesi Because tiltrotor flight was in its "infancy" at the time, even the V22 had a lot of problems at the beginning
Way to go, Bell
25 June 2024 First landing on the Italian aircraft carrier CAVOUR for the AW-609 convertiplane
Looks extremely pitch sensitve!! Just as long as I'm not required to get in one, I'm really good!!
What if the tilt system fails, jamming in the "fast forward" position?
Land it like an aircraft and destroy the props i guess
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oh god i want one
Yes please
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I wonder, how they anticipate if one engine failure?? how big assymetry thrust to compensate
I think both rotors are conected
damn what a beast
Impressive and low noise aircraft
so in next 15 years will it finally enter serial production?
I hope so !! Thanks a lot mate
Series production is planned to start in 2026. Will cost 20 - 30 Mio. € depending on config.
The cheapest is SAR. The most expensive is the 9 seat VIP Shuttle.
Is safe?
Yes of corse
Just make sure all your insurance is paid up, and you're good to go!!
With the problems the V22 is having will it effect the sales of this aircraft
As long as Augusta Westland doesn't do the Boeing thing where they play fuck around, and find out with their design, and quality control then this should work just fine.
AW609 have its own problems. One hull and crew lost in high speed testing, flight-control logic flaw. That was seven years ago. Cert. should happen this year (but they said same in the last year)
I remember flying this in a sim 18 years ago. That sim was x-plane
It is not new, i have seen my first one back in 2013
Do you need a heli license or a plane license for this? Probably both right?
Special licence.
The only people owning or flying that aircraft are the ones that worked on designing it.
25 June 2024 First landing on the Italian aircraft carrier CAVOUR for the AW-609 convertiplane
It must be exciting to pilot right in the middle of 2 rapidly rotating propellers.
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It looks very oldschool, like 1970s
It has someting from a James Bond movie
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Just a thought when you're so close to the aircraft with your lens you don't have any reference points you can't tell if it's coming or going and your not the only content creator doing the same thing if it's a cloud less day go further back and give us the ground with the aircraft it would be so much better.the best part is when it's coming in for a pass, then we have a sense of speed.
I wonder how much it costs? I want it. It's definitely not possible, I'm poor.
I think a lot
sad thing is v22 problems are going to affect the perception of this thing's reliability no matter how different it is
I am not so sure about it.
I had no idea that there was a civilian VTOL! I thought it was just the Osprey.
I have seen them first in 2013, its a great aircraft but still not in service
HATS-OFF to GREAT ENGINEERS at WORK to create a HELO-PLANE for potential MASS PRODUCTION for PROFIT!
I hope they will build a lot of them
Its like a drone
Yesss
One prototype has crashed. Killing two people. They reduced the vertical tail area causing instability at high speeds. It dutch rolled so much the props hit and shreaded the wing. Warning signs showed up on a previous flight but no fix was implimented. The version shown in this video obviously has the reduced vertical tail area as well. It also has no rudder so no redundancy there. I love VTOL aircraft but I ain't getting in this one.
Yes sadly one is crashed, but i like to see them in the sky
Making the Titanic look safe. No way I'm ever getting in that death trap
Looks like a civilized version of a V22 Osprey. But there is still a problem. She doesn't have any approval (yet). This makes it difficult to sell since it also has a steep price.
I think if they put it into service it will be safe
This would seem to be a police force’s answer to Demon Hellcats and such.
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Much classier than the V-22, but then... built for a different purpose. 🙂
Just well tested on an italian aircarrier
Yessss
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They are cool !!! But it’s a lot of extra moving parts !! Will be great for medical transportation!
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Your 1005 right
The first pass sounds like a plane, the second pass is a helicopter.
Yessss, thanks a lot
great engineering and performance but tilt motors have a reliability problem.
I am not so sure about it, but they are still not in service
20 yrs since it was born as BA609, still none comes out of the production line.
Yes, I think it so sad, I like to see a lot of them in the air
@@MUCSpotter In my thought, most of the tilted rotors designs more suitable to the civilian use than the military especially "no no" in combat role.
Due to the cost of development, the civilian section can't afford the tilted rotor on its own. That huge budget naturally only allocated by the government to the militaries and that the reason the civilian tilted rotor couldn' t go ahead of the military one that it piggybacking.
For example, why wasn't the modern fixed engine pods design like in V280 be developed and applied to the AW609 first?
It's very close to type certification. This being a new type of aircraft in the FAA view, they have had to work extensively to create a new tilt rotor class of aircraft. The new class takes inspiration from parts 23, 27 and 29 portions of the certification code.
And they never will!!!!!
@@scotabot7826Likely to see the civilian version of V280 coming out instead in the future.
If it's anything like the Osprey you couldn't pay me to fly on that aircraft, so many accidents with this type of propulsion design.
I think they know how to handle the problems now
Hopefully it goes better than the Osprey
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What ???
Apparently, it is unable to land.
Having flown in an MV-22 Osprey dozens of times...That's gonna be a "no" from me dawg.
Ok, why ?
I hope it’s more successful than the Osprey.
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That is V22 osprey for rich people.
Rich, soon to be departed people.
Although probably no safer than a helicopter in vertical lift scenarios when something malfunctions, if there’s a mishap during horizontal flight, this is a much more survivable aircraft. It can glide somewhat or even fly to relative safety depending on the situation. Helicopters, on the other hand, have been a death trap for so many poor souls, even right up to now. I feel like I read about another helicopter crash every few months. If anything goes wrong in a helicopter, it’s falling like a spinning brick while the pilots fight in vain to put it into the theoretical autorotation they were promised in flight school. Multirotor craft are the future…at least until we’re allowed to know about antigravity tech. 🕵️♂️
If they put them into service it will be safe, the 737 Max are flying too, so now problem
@@MUCSpotter The Bell V-280 Valor, being the same vehicle concept as this one, is supposed to enter service for the U.S. Army by 2030 under the FLRAA program, which stands for Future Long Range Assault Aircraft. It’s got a cruise speed of 320 MPH, a top speed around 350 MPH, and a range of over 2,000 miles. Both its stationary and in-flight maneuverability are supposedly a bit quicker than a helicopter, too! I don’t know how you get all this amazing footage of aircraft, but I’m so glad I just discovered your channel. I’ll be here a lot more. Thank you!
Thanks for the infos. And thanks a lot for your support and nice words
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25 June 2024 First landing on the Italian aircraft carrier CAVOUR for the AW-609 convertiplane
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Beautiful but I assume super duper unsafe.
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A poor man's HARRIER for RICH PEOPLE ONLY!
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Lots of Pierre Sprey pretenders and armchair aviation designers getting triggered here in the comments rn fr fr
I like the AW609 a lot
Cannot really glide, cannot really autorotate, one slip and you are dead :)
I think they can fix the problems, time and money will help a lot
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